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Ep. 76 : NL West Preview With Taylor Corso · Cards & Categories

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  Speaker 1: Hello and welcome everybody to episode seventy six of Cards
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  Speaker 1: and Categories. I am Mike Coolard from Rasball, joined as
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  Speaker 1: always by my very good friend Jeremy Burer, also from Rasball.
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  Speaker 2: How are you doing tonight, Buddy, doing fantastic. Excited to
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  Speaker 2: keep the series going. Breaking down the divisions today, So
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  Speaker 2: it's gonna be a fun one.
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  Speaker 3: I can't wait to get into it.
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  Speaker 2: I know we'll go deep, we'll go we'll go places
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  Speaker 2: we probably shouldn't, but I'm here for it.
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  Speaker 3: So let's get kicking.
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  Speaker 1: And joining us as a guest to cover the NL
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  Speaker 1: West this week, We're gonna go all the way across
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  Speaker 1: the coast after covering the Ale East last week. We
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  Speaker 1: have Taylor Corso from Prospects Live in the Dynasty Baseball
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  Speaker 1: Pickups podcast. How are you doing tonight, Taylor.
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  Speaker 4: I'm doing great. Thanks for having me on, guys, I'm excited.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So, I mean, well, you introduce yourself to our
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  Speaker 1: listeners in case they're not familiar with your work. I
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  Speaker 1: love your podcast. It's one of the most in depth
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  Speaker 1: like Dynasty podcasts out there that you guys get into
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  Speaker 1: the nitty gritty of like you find some of the
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  Speaker 1: some great prospect gyms. I loved your draft coverage this
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  Speaker 1: past year too. The draft coverage was really fantastic to
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  Speaker 1: help everybody out kind of sort through first year player drafts.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, let everybody know where they can find you
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  Speaker 1: on socials, check out your podcast and any other introduction
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  Speaker 1: that you have.
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  Speaker 4: Awesome, thanks Mike. As far as where to find me,
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  Speaker 4: I'm on both Blue Sky and x You can find
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  Speaker 4: me at Dynasty Pickups on both. You can find my
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  Speaker 4: work like you mentioned, over at Prospects Live on the Patreon,
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  Speaker 4: and then I have a weekly podcast that comes out
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  Speaker 4: Sunday mornings. It's Dynasty Baseball Pickups, and like you mentioned,
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  Speaker 4: we go pretty deep on Dynasty Leagues. You know, we'll
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  Speaker 4: talk about prospects and we'll be players. We're actually doing
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  Speaker 4: our division previous series right now, so this is gonna
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  Speaker 4: be a little bit of early prep for my NLST podcast.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, be sure to check us out.
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  Speaker 1: Excellent. Yeah, well I met you at First Picture, as
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  Speaker 1: I know, so it's great to have you on and
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  Speaker 1: like you said, we're gonna talk nl West. But before
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  Speaker 1: we get into that, I got a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: just kind of ground to cover in terms of making
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  Speaker 1: in all your lineups out there, as well as reading
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  Speaker 1: and listening to all the great work from all the
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  Speaker 1: writers that we've got over at Rasball. So let's get
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  Speaker 1: into a few news and notes before we get into
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  Speaker 1: our nl West coverage. It was a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: a lighter week here as we are recording on January
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  Speaker 1: twenty ninth, But we've got a few moves that are
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  Speaker 1: going to make some impacts here out there for our
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  Speaker 1: fantasy teams. The first one, I think probably the most
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  Speaker 1: significant one, is we have Jerks and Profar signing a
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  Speaker 1: three year deal with the Atlanta Braves. And so Profar,
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  Speaker 1: the switch hitter, is coming off of a fantastic season
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  Speaker 1: for the Padres slash two eighty three, eighty five, four
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  Speaker 1: fifty nine for a one thirty nine WRC plus twenty
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  Speaker 1: four homers, ten stolen bases, ninety four runs, eighty five RBI,
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  Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty eight games. That feels really weird,
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  Speaker 1: staying out loud that that came out of Jerks and Profar. So, Taylor,
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  Speaker 1: what do you think about this landing spot in Atlanta
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  Speaker 1: for Profar?
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  Speaker 4: I really like it. I think it's a fantastic place
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  Speaker 4: from DeLanda. Just being in that lineup is going to
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  Speaker 4: help the counting stats for sure. You know, I'm not
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  Speaker 4: fully buying into the renaissance that he had last year,
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  Speaker 4: but there were some tangible changes. I think he's definitely
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  Speaker 4: a better version of himself, and I think going to
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  Speaker 4: Atlanta is, like I said, a great landing spot, and
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  Speaker 4: I think it's a good deal for Atlanta as well.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally agree he should hit either second or
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  Speaker 1: sixth in a really deep Atlanta lineup. And so brew
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  Speaker 1: you heard that crazy stat line that I just rattled
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  Speaker 1: off there for Profar last year in our Player Raider,
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  Speaker 1: he came in as the thirty fifth overall player. Overall
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  Speaker 1: player at twenty two point three dollars, you had to
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  Speaker 1: consider him for your top one hundred hitters. Eventually, Is
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  Speaker 1: he gonna be in that top one hundred hitters going
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  Speaker 1: to twenty twenty five?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he will be there, probably begrudgingly, just because I
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  Speaker 2: don't feel like I feel like it's like every season
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  Speaker 2: Jersem Profi is gonna be the thing, and then it's
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  Speaker 2: like we're ten years later and it's we're still finally
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  Speaker 2: talking about it. So I don't kind of like what
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  Speaker 2: Taylor said, I don't expect what we saw last year
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  Speaker 2: from Profar, mainly the power department. I wouldn't be shocked
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  Speaker 2: if it was half of the power that he did
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  Speaker 2: last year. But across the board, he's still gonna have
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  Speaker 2: solid counting stats. He's gonna he really did improve his
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  Speaker 2: plate approach, So I think he's gonna be valuable. But
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  Speaker 2: I'm probably slotting him towards the later portions of my
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  Speaker 2: top one hundred hitters going in just you know, fool
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  Speaker 2: me once twice three times throughout the years. I'm a
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  Speaker 2: little jaded still at this point, but I do think
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  Speaker 2: he's improved.
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  Speaker 3: I do think he's a better version of himself.
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  Speaker 2: Just yeah, giving me eighty five percent of last year,
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  Speaker 2: and I think that's probably about where he deserves to land.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's a totally fair take. Well, in
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  Speaker 1: a kind of serendipitous move, we also have Jerks and
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  Speaker 1: Profar's best friend hasi On Kim from the Padres last
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  Speaker 1: year also signed. He's going to Tampa and is inking
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  Speaker 1: a two year, twenty two million dollar deal or twenty
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  Speaker 1: nine million dollar deal and currently on roster resource. He's
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  Speaker 1: slated to open on the injured list because of the
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  Speaker 1: shoulder injury that he's recovering from last year, but I
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  Speaker 1: think he should once he recovers, walk right into the
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  Speaker 1: shortstop job, replacing Taylor Walls in that Tampa Bay lineup.
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  Speaker 1: Kim came off of I would say a mediocre season. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: he was battering that shoulder issue, but put up a
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  Speaker 1: one oh one WRC plus with eleven homers and twenty
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  Speaker 1: two steels, so didn't quite get back to the levels
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  Speaker 1: of twenty twenty three when he swiped thirty eight bags.
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  Speaker 1: But Taylor, what do you think he can do going
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  Speaker 1: into twenty twenty five here? Do you shade him more
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  Speaker 1: towards like the thirty eight steel mark, more towards that
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  Speaker 1: twenty two steel And do you think that the power
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  Speaker 1: might come back here for Kim because Kim was more
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  Speaker 1: of a power hitter before that speed outburst in twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty three.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think we're definitely going to see,
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  Speaker 4: you know, the speed tick back up to more of
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  Speaker 4: the thirty stolen based level. I think for power, I
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  Speaker 4: wouldn't be surprised if he, you know, sees the power
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  Speaker 4: he's shown the pass just from the ballpark move. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: you know, two years from now, who knows what that
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  Speaker 4: looks like in the drop, but this year it should
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  Speaker 4: be a fantastic ballpark environment for him with the Rays
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  Speaker 4: playing there in the I forget the name of the stadium,
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  Speaker 4: but the Steinbrenerfield, stein Brenderfield.
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  Speaker 3: There you go, thank you.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, I think it's a great landing spot for Kim.
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  Speaker 4: Like you mentioned, you know, he should play every day.
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  Speaker 4: I'm kind of bummed as a Giants fan. I was
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  Speaker 4: hoping he would go, but that's not the case, and
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  Speaker 4: it's worth doing. I believe. I saw he has an
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  Speaker 4: opt out for the second year, so I think if
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  Speaker 4: he has a strong year, this is going to be
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  Speaker 4: a one and done with Tampa likely.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes sense, or even trade fodder at the
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  Speaker 1: at the deadline, given the way the Tampa operates down there.
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  Speaker 1: Brew is your take in a similar vein? Or you
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  Speaker 1: maybe staying away from Hassung Kim? What's your take here?
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  Speaker 2: No, I'm actually a big haws On Kim fan. I
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  Speaker 2: see him as a fifteen to twenty five type guy
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  Speaker 2: two fifty and you're looking at Steamer projections things like that,
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  Speaker 2: just maybe slightly above them. The thing I like going
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  Speaker 2: to Tampa is they tend to move guys around get creative,
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  Speaker 2: and so I think some that positional flexibility be there.
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised if he has second shortstop flexibility
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  Speaker 2: throughout the year, maybe even as third. So I think
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  Speaker 2: that there's just a little bit of upside there, and
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  Speaker 2: they paid him enough that they're gonna play him, which
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  Speaker 2: is I think it was a slight concern of mine.
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  Speaker 3: Of where he went.
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  Speaker 2: So it's just a matter of how healthy and when
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  Speaker 2: is it. You know, the Padres were saying he was
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  Speaker 2: gonna be back till midyear. That was clearly tactics and
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  Speaker 2: trying to resign him, at least in my opinion, and
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  Speaker 2: then others were saying, hey, he's gonna be ready for
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  Speaker 2: spring training. You know, it's it's gonna be a little slow,
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  Speaker 2: slow going at the beginning, But one hundred twenty hundred
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  Speaker 2: and thirty games, I don't think it is out of
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  Speaker 2: the question, and it's gonna be worth it when he's
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  Speaker 2: in there. So I think Kim's a great buy and
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people are gonna be down on because
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  Speaker 2: the injuries and just kind of the overall lack of
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  Speaker 2: fanfare in the offseason. That deal is just not exciting.
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  Speaker 2: By any means, And I think people look at that
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  Speaker 2: and go, h, it's he isn't that great a player.
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  Speaker 2: But this is a guy that could have had a
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  Speaker 2: four or five year deal trying to get into, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the eighty ninety million dollar range if he had been
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  Speaker 2: fully healthy, because of what he can do with the glove.
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  Speaker 3: So I like it. I'll be buying has Sung Kim
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  Speaker 3: and Hoist Sung Kim shares all all spring.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and oh yeah, Taylor, I'll say, well, that's update
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  Speaker 1: I did. I did thought.
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  Speaker 4: I saw an update today where he was supposed to
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  Speaker 4: be back by May, so I think probably out April,
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  Speaker 4: but possibly we'll return to May.
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  Speaker 1: So that's not too bad, and that's not terrible. If
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  Speaker 1: you're in a league that has il spots, you can
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  Speaker 1: take him and stash him. Second base is so thin
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  Speaker 1: that if you're able to call him some some backups
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  Speaker 1: there when Kim comes back, or even at third base,
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  Speaker 1: third base is also thin. I think it's a great move.
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  Speaker 1: Although rip to the draft share. I took of Carson
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  Speaker 1: Williams in a fifty round draft in Hold this week,
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  Speaker 1: so I was really looking at that shortstop spot and
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  Speaker 1: it was weak for the race. So they shorted up
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  Speaker 1: with Kim for sure. All right, Well, we haven't had
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  Speaker 1: too much closer news recently, but it is starting to
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  Speaker 1: get into that season as teams are starting to round
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  Speaker 1: out the back of their bullpens. So we had two
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  Speaker 1: closer moves that happened this past week, and the first
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  Speaker 1: one is Ryan Presley from the Astros was dealt to
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  Speaker 1: the Cubs. Should walk right into the closer situation there.
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  Speaker 1: It sounds like the way that the Cubs front office
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  Speaker 1: is phrasing that is that they're looking at Ryan Presley
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  Speaker 1: to be the ninth inning option over Porter Hodge going
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  Speaker 1: into twenty twenty five. So Presley has come off of,
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  Speaker 1: you know, a peak where he used to be the
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  Speaker 1: closer in Houston, lost that job to Hater is going
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  Speaker 1: to try to have to refined it after Honestly, the
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  Speaker 1: stuff is diminished, The ability to stay in the strike
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  Speaker 1: zone has diminished for Presley, so it's gonna be quite
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  Speaker 1: the balancing act. We also have another closer move in
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  Speaker 1: Kansas City, as just right before we started recording here,
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  Speaker 1: they went out and signed Carlos Esteves, who you also
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  Speaker 1: want to talk about, another unsteady, relieving closing option. It
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  Speaker 1: looks like he's currently slotted in to take the job
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  Speaker 1: from Lucas Orsig. I'm a little bit more skeptical of
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  Speaker 1: that because I really like Lucas er Sig. So, Taylor,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna bat this over to you first. If you
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  Speaker 1: had to pick between Ryan Presley and Carlos Estevez, which
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  Speaker 1: one are you taking? And why?
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  Speaker 3: Oh?
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  Speaker 4: Presley for sure. I just think the fact that they
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  Speaker 4: got him to waive his no trade clause means they
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  Speaker 4: gave him some sort of assurances about his role. I
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  Speaker 4: would imagine it seems like, you know, I love Porter Hodge.
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  Speaker 4: I have a ton of shares everywhere in Dynasty, but
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  Speaker 4: it seems like all off season the Cubs have been
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  Speaker 4: signaling that they're not comfortable with him being their primary
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  Speaker 4: closer option. So, you know, despite what you mentioned with
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  Speaker 4: Presley's like, you know, reduced strikeout rate, reduce velo, everything
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  Speaker 4: like that, I still would take him over Carlos Estevez
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  Speaker 4: because I agree with you like erse is so much better.
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  Speaker 4: And Estevez, you know, he's fine, but he's the kind
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  Speaker 4: of guy who could lose it in an instant, and
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  Speaker 4: I just have more faith that erseg will take that
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  Speaker 4: role eventually or just contribute more saves this year than
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  Speaker 4: you know, Hodge, will If Presley Selti.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I see, it's all kind of nodding along with
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  Speaker 1: those takes. So Brew, I'm going to force you to
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  Speaker 1: analyze Carlos Estevez and also what date do you think
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  Speaker 1: that he loses that job to Lucas? Do you think
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  Speaker 1: he even gets it out of the gate.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I'm the the pessimist here.
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  Speaker 2: I think he doesn't make it out a spring training
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  Speaker 2: with the job because Carlos Estevez just is kind of
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  Speaker 2: a cardiac with an arm So I think ers comes
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  Speaker 2: in too, you know, maybe with a chip on his
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  Speaker 2: shoulder with this signing, just looks lights out. In the
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  Speaker 2: spring training, which which he did last year, he looked unbelievable.
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  Speaker 2: And so I think he's gonna get that they're gonna
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  Speaker 2: share opportunities, and he's gonna come out, you know, being
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  Speaker 2: the greater share of a time share there and just
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  Speaker 2: prove that he deserves it. I think Estevez has he's
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  Speaker 2: been better than he was in Colorado, but that's not
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  Speaker 2: saying saying much any picture believing Colorado seems to get better.
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  Speaker 2: So I take air Stig there in any day. I
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  Speaker 2: also a Taylor there. I'm taking Pressly any day over
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  Speaker 2: either of them. Generally, probably a bullpen I'm staying away
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  Speaker 2: with unless you're going to deeper leagues things like that.
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  Speaker 2: But I have zero interest in Estevez. I just think
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  Speaker 2: it's the that's one of those ones that you look
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  Speaker 2: back in the season and your bullpen blew up like
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  Speaker 2: three times in April and you're just fighting it all
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  Speaker 2: year trying to get that back because he gave up
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  Speaker 2: like six runs of the ninth three times, and he's like,
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  Speaker 2: why why did I believe in this guy? So I
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  Speaker 2: I'd rather be wrong and not own him than be
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  Speaker 2: right and own him type of thing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, And I mean I I think I'm with
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  Speaker 1: you guys too here. That I think it's Presley is
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  Speaker 1: an easy take, although obviously with that caveat that I
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  Speaker 1: gave that, you know, it hasn't been the best stretch
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  Speaker 1: of time here for Presley as he lost that job
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  Speaker 1: to Hater. But I'm actually the true loser here because
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to be the one because Lucas Ersik
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  Speaker 1: is not the bastion of health. I do think that
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  Speaker 1: he's going to go through a spell of like having
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  Speaker 1: to be sidelined, and in my waiver wire column, I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna be that loser that has to be like Carlos
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  Speaker 1: Estevez is your only source of saves on the waiver wire,
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  Speaker 1: have fun and have to analyze him week in week
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  Speaker 1: out while he's sitting there for everybody. So look forward
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  Speaker 1: to that on ras ball all summer. Okay, well, with that,
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  Speaker 1: let's just get right into our NL West preview that
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  Speaker 1: covers the main news and notes, because I want to
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  Speaker 1: give us plenty of time to get into what I
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  Speaker 1: think is very quickly becoming one of our favorite segments
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  Speaker 1: here of the pod. And we've got forty five guys
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  Speaker 1: to cover, assuming that we don't have some double dips,
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  Speaker 1: but I think we might, given I know how each
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: of us kind of play Fantasy Baseball that I think
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  Speaker 1: we've got probably some similar buys and sells and picks
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  Speaker 1: to click here. So if you're not familiar with what
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  Speaker 1: we're going to do, we're going to run through the
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  Speaker 1: entire NL West Division here, start from the alphabetically first
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  Speaker 1: team all the way down, and then what we're going
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  Speaker 1: to do for each team is we're going to each
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: pick one by one sell one prospectee pick to click
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  Speaker 1: young player that we like. For each team, we are
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: going to be using NFBC Draft Champions ADP data. We're
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  Speaker 1: always like, everyone's always like on a different date. I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to try to stick to just the January drafts,
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  Speaker 1: but if you've got a different one, I don't think
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  Speaker 1: it's been varying that much across the board from when
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  Speaker 1: we've been talking.
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  Speaker 3: But we're going to.
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  Speaker 1: Start off with the Arizona Diamondbacks, who in twenty twenty
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  Speaker 1: three went to the World Series. Last year missed out
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  Speaker 1: on the wild card by one game. Dim I recall that, right, Yes, yep, yes,
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: just by that tie man. Twenty twenty four seems so
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: long ago. But the Dbacks have gone out and you know,
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: brought in some help as Christian Walker is no longer
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: manning the cold corner there. They brought in Josh Naylor,
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: trading away Slates Cony, and on top of it, they've
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: got the biggest move that I just kind of buried
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: the lead on, bringing in the Ace Corbyn Burns to
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: anchor the top of that staff. He's from Arizona, so
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: should be pretty comfortable slotting in there. After a pretty
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: nice season in Baltimore. So Taylor, we're gonna start with
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: you as the guest. I'm gonna kick it over to you.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: Who is your buy from the Arizona Diamondbacks at their
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: ADP currently.
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So I'm probably gonna be a little bit deeper
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: with most of these just because you know, I play
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: a lot of dynasty, a lot of deeper rosters. And
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: when I call this guy I buy, I mean it
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: because I actually traded for him earlier today. So my guy,
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: my buye, I should say, is Alec Thomas. He's going
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: in January NFBC ADP. He's going five oh seven at
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: least when I pulled the data, which was maybe a
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: couple of days ago, so could have changed a little bit,
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: But five hundred and seventh and EIGHTP so he's really
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: really low. Don't even need a draft him outside of
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: like a deeper you know, fifteen team or like a
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: DC or something. But he's actually going behind names like
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: Gary Sanchez justin turner roster resource that doesn't even have
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: him in the starting lineup. They have him as a
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: fourth outfielder. But I'm fairly confident he's going to play
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: this year because he provides elite center field defense. And
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: you look at his defensive metrics from twenty point two
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: and twenty twenty three, he's the best center fielder that
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: the Diamondbacks have. Now, I'm kind of throwing out last
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: year because he was injured. It wasn't a very large sample,
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: So I think he can get back to what he
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: was before. But I think you know, any team that
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: has a young player who can play center field, they're
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: not just gonna stash that on the bench. There's a
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: reason guys like Jose and you know, Michael Taylor back
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: in the day, we're getting tons of run because they
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: can actually play good center field defense. When you think
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: about Alec Thomas, it's important remember he's just going to
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: be twenty four on opening Day. He was once a
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: consensus top one hundred prospect from twenty twenty to twenty
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: twenty two when he debuted. I mean, you think about
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: you know, Corbyn Carroll and Jordan Lawler. Well, MLB Pipeline
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: at Baseball America actually had Alec Thomas over Corbyn Carroll
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: back in twenty twenty. In twenty twenty two, Pipeline and
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: Baseball Perspectus had Alec Thomas over Jordan Lawler and in
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: you know, I worked for Prospects Live and our last
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: update in twenty twenty two on Alec Thomas. We had
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: him number three behind those two guys, but we gave
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: him a fifty five OFP sixty hit tool, fifty power,
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: sixty fielder, sixty runner, so really really good toolsy young outfielder.
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: And you look at what he's done so far in
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: his three seasons in the bigs, it hasn't been great.
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: He has a career six nine ops and he lost
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: his job last season. So you could look at, you know,
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: roster resource, say this guy's not gonna play. He lost
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: his job to Jake McCarthy, but you have to really
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: look at what his season actually was last year. He
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: actually reworked his swing prior to the season, and there
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: was a lot of buzz about him in spring training
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: because he apparently set a new max EV of one
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: sixteen miles an hour like that is kind of ridiculous
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: for a guy who you know, had never shown a
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: lot of power before, definitely had the tools, so there
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: was some excitement about the new swing. He put up
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: a nineteen OPS in spring training, look poised to breakout,
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: got three hits in his first two games, including a
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: home run in double so like the breakout looked like
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: it was there, and then he got hurt and then
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: it was you know. He strained his hamstring in the
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: fourth game of the season, starts his rehab in May,
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: plays three games, has a setback, has to get a
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: PRP injection, restarts his rehab in June another three games,
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: and then has to pause due to sowreness. So like
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: he must hate the number three because it was like
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: every time he played three games he was back on
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: the il for something. So he restarts it again in
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: late June, plays six games this time, and then gets
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: activated to the big league level. So he's had this
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: start stop, start stop, very short rehab period. Goes to
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: the big league, shows better evs than he's shown in
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: the past, but struggles. Clearly the leg is still bothering
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: him because the sprint seats speeds way down. The defense
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: is not as great as it has been. Meanwhile, the
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: time he's up in the big leagues, Jake McCarthy is
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: having the.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: Stretch of his life.
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: Jake McCarthy had over one thousand ops during the time
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: that Alec Thomas was there, struggling in the Major. So
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: what happens, well, Alec Thomas loses his playing time, he
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: gets sent back down, plays three games again in TRIPAA,
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: hurts his oblique overall played just you know, was out
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: for about a month. Returns in September, and then you know,
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: plays fairly well eight games that he showed after his
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: demotion two Triple A. He played eight games in the Majors.
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: Slashed four hundred four to seventy two six fifty six,
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: with two home runs and two doubles in those eight games,
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: so it looked like he was trying to kind of
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: figure things out. At the end of the year. The
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: jury is still on the swing changes. We never know
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: kind of how real those are, how much those are.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: Going to stick.
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: But despite his struggles last year, he had a career
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: high ISO, career high average, EV, career high barrel rate,
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: hard hit rate, poll rate, strikeout rate, XBA, x LUG,
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: and x WOLBA, so some really promising signs there. Vastly
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: underperformed his expected stats. The one thing I will say
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: is he did struggle with the ground ball rate, and
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: that's something that's haunted him in the past. He had
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: a sixty percent ground ball rate at the big league
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: level last year. Again, weird season, small sample, but you
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: look at what he did in Triple A during his
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: rehab and his demotion. He did the lowest ground ball
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: rate of his minor league career at forty one percent.
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: So even there you can see there's some amazing signs.
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: Also performed well against lefties two, which has been a
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: little bit an issue for him in the past. Again,
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: all this in a sixteen game sample at Triple A,
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: so hard to really buy too much into it. Projections
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: have him as a two point fifty hitter with mid
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: teen's power and speed over a full season. I needed
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: to double check that because I think I might have. Yeah,
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: they have him as a two to fifty hitter. Okay, yeah,
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: I was gonna say, I don't really buy that because
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: he hasn't posted that yet. But yeah, even projections are
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: on him as a two fifty hitter with you know,
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: almost double digit home runs and stolen bases and about
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: half a seasons worth of plate appearance. I think he's
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: gonna have way more than half a season worth of
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: plate appearance. I think he can hit over two fifty,
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: and I think he can be somewhere between fifteen and
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: twenty home runs and stolen bases in the amount of
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: playing time. I think he's gonna have this year. So
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: that's why I'm buying Alec Thomas. I swear not all
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: of mine will be this long winded, but really passionate
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: about this guy.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: No, I mean, I think it's this is a great take.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: I was really passionate about him last year that, like
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: I remember I wrote about him in one of my
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: pieces is right before one of those injuries, somewhere in
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: that long line, And I think you nailed all the
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: points here that Like, I think this is a great
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: sleeper pick just across the board and you just look
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: at I love guys like this who don't strike out
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: that much, But it does feel like Alec Thomas at
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: some point he's gonna pop like a twenty five to
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: twenty five season and really be a huge fantasy asset.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a great call on McCarthy. Like
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: he McCarthy has so much talent, but he doesn't seem
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: like he knows how to put it together.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: So I don't think it's.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: A big, you know, big thing saying in the way
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: McCarthy doesn't start strong, Thomas gets an absolute opportunity to
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: run with it, and McCarthy starts strong. At some point
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: he's gonna have a downturn Like that's it just seems
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: the player that he has been. So it is deep,
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: but I like it.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: I like it. It's gonna be fun.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Jeremy, who's yours.
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: We're gonna go not nearly as deep.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: I'll go deeper when we get to our clicks to
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: pick here, but I'm gonna go with a the number
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: five starter, Brandon fat for the Diamondbacks here, and don't
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: look at the numbers, don't look at the stats. It
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: doesn't look fantastic by any means. It's not like he
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: was great in the second half or anything like that. Really,
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: what it comes down to with with with Brandon Fatt
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: is he does a little bit of everything just really
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: above average. I don't want to say it's like really
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: really well. It's like it's just all the little metrics
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: across the board. So he does strike out guys at
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: the strikeout or ending, He keeps the walks in check,
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: he keeps the ball on the ground, he really controls
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: the strike zone. He does really well across the board,
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: and that turns out to be a pretty good pitcher
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: when you are, you know, going into your twenty six
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: year old season. And if you look at what he's
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: been able to do, like in the playoffs and things
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: like that, we've seen flashes of brilliance and he is
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: a guy that brings it.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: In the mid mid nineties.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: And I think there's probably another their tick there with
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: that that body type. He is six four two twenty,
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: like you expect that he's gonna be able to start
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: to pull more out of that as even sure and
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: figure out what he's doing.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: The other thing that I like.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: About him is you just look at that overall kind
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: of profile, the bad of ball profile. And I was
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: over on Baseball Savant looking at like who do you
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: comp with? Who do you comp with? And the top
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: three comps where guys I'm like, yeah, that is what
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: we expect from Brandon Fatt And we absolutely can get
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: Pablo Lopez, Bryce Miller, Luis Castillo, Guys that keep the
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: ball on the ground, decent control. They're not gonna blow
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: you away, but they're gonna do just good enough job.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: And so I think that's where fat is. I don't
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: think Jordan Montgomery is a risk to Brandon Fatt in
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: the in the rotation, I was a little concerned with
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: Corbin Byrne's signed, but I think that there's a lot here.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: He's going off the board, you.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: Know, at the one eighty six, so we're definitely well
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: into the double digits round round fifteen ish here, and
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: so talking mid to the end of the rotation. Perfect
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: option and definitely gonna carry you from an Indians perspective
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: as well as because he was one hundred and eighty
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Indians last year and the projections have that down a
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: little bit. I think his questions about that, you know,
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: a six span rotation, and like I said, I just
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: don't believe that's gonna be the case. And I think
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: he's definitely got more more in the tank, and all
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: those underlying metrics is s FIP things like that show
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: that he's more of a mid threes to hygh mid
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: three guy than what he's shown nearly a five era.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: So I'm buying him all day.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: He's cheap, he's easy, and I don't see the roller
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: coaster with like a lot of other pictures of the
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: same ADP where they can just blow up on you
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: left and right, I think this is a I hate
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: to say, a safe buy pick.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it does feel weird saying that about
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: Brandon Fat considering what he did to us, you know,
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: just in twenty twenty three. But I honestly he was
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: one of my high picks in terms of like guys
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: I evaluated for this. I think it's a great call.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: He's ready for the volume two, another season of one
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: hundred and eighty innings that that's harder and harder to find,
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: all right, my buye so we do have three separate
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: ones is it's Justin Martinez here. So Justin Martinez is
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: going off the board as pick number average. Oh, I
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: didn't even follow my own rules by setting my average
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: picks for just the month of January, So I'm the
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: one that's breaking the rules here. Now it's actually fallen
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: since what I was looking at. So he's averaging around
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: picked two fifty two here in January, and I just
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: don't have a lot of faith here in aj Puck
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: being able to steal as many saves away from Justin
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: Martinez as I think people are projecting. I think that
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: the Dbacks are going to use Puck in more of
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: like an Andrew Miller is role just given how good
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: his tools are and being a former starter that they're
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: going to try to get a little more length out
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: of Puck. And on top of I don't think they
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: need Puck to be closing. I love Justin Martinez. Just
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: a great, great slider, wicked splitter. He's really tough to
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: square up and just was striking out tons and tons
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: of batters last year for the K nine it was
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: eleven point three K nine. The walks are a little high,
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: but he doesn't give up homers. He's got a great
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: ground ball approach, and I think that mix is gonna
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: work really well. It reminds me a little bit of
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: like like a Brad Lidge or something like that, where
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: it's just such a wicked slider, pretty good heat. It's
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: not like the greatest shape on the fastball, but good
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: heat to keep everybody honest. And I think this is
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: a great opportunity for Everyone's gotten penciled in for like
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: twenty ish saves, but I think he could push almost
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: thirty just given that he's right handed over Puck's left
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: handed option, and the d becks should be relatively good
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: and in close games, I think he's he's a sleeper
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: kind of closer to going into this season that I
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: think you can by pretty late.
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it'll be interesting to see. I think
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: you're right.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Like Puck, I don't He's shown so much promise in
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: such short spurts, and it always seems to be in spring.
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: Training, and so.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: I I see where you're going there. Yeah, very very
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: good point. I might get a battle spring training. But
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: I do think that Puck starts the season as the closer,
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: and I think he does great for like two three
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: weeks and then it starts to falter. And so I
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: think I think you're right. I think Martinez has a
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: lot more upside. They're going right next to each other
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: for more lack of better terms than the in the
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: draft data, like there are a few rounds apart. So
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: I think that people are just not sure what to
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: do in the bullpen. I'm personally probably just gonna stay
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: away from that bullpen altogether because I think there's just
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: enough volatility there that I I just don't want to
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: deal with it.
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: But that's just because I'm lazy. So I think there's
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: a lot of potential there. You're right.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: I think this is one that I would want to
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: see spring training, the confidence from from Martinez and see
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: what he looks like, because I think a lot of
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: the skills there. He's just he's young, and I'm not
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: sure they're willing to fully turn over the rains yet
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: unless he unless he looks dominant.
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: All right, Yeah, I'm more with you, Mike, Like I
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: think Martinez is the guy. Like I love AJ Puck.
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: I've always loved AJ Puck, but I just you know,
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: the lefty righty split. I just think Martinez is gonna
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: get most of those safe opportunities. And I love that
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: call up.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: I appreciate it. I knew we had John for a
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: good reason here, Taylor, all right, well let's move on
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: to ourselves. Taylor, who's your cell here?
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: All right?
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: So if my boy's gonna be Alec Thomas, he's got
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: to play over somebody. So my cell's got to be
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: Jake McCarthy right now. He's going at ADP of two seventeen,
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: going ahead of guys like Jorge Hilaire, Byron Buxton, Nolan Jones,
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: Garrett Mitchell, Evan Carter, Lars Nubar, like tons of other outfitters.
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: I would much rather have than Jake McCarthy, and he's
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: just not the defender that Alec Thomas is. Like he
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: he can play, you know, maybe a serviceable center field
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: if you squent, but like he's not going to provide
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: the defensive value that Thomas is. And I really think
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: Thomas is going to take over that role, either you know,
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: out of spring training or at some point in the season,
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: because Jake McCarthy is a better fantasy player than he
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: is a real life player. He does not impact the
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: ball at all. First percentile average ex of velocity the
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: worst in the league, fourth percentile barrel rate, second percentile
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: hard hit rate, fifth percentile batspeed, just has no oomph.
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: H doesn't walk much, he chases. He you know, greatly
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: outperformed his expected stats last year. He was pretty much
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: fully reliant on Babbit. And when he doesn't get that
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: Babbitt look like we saw it in twenty twenty three,
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: he just doesn't perform. And he profiles much better as
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: a fourth outfielder. You know, when you look when I
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: mentioned like his crazy stretch he had where he had
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: a thousand oh ps when ale Thomas was up. Guess
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: what happened after Alex thought Thomas was demoted. He slashed
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: two thirty seven ninety five. McCarthy did from from the
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: point that Thomas was devoted to the rest of the season.
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: He does not have a stronghold on that job. Everybody
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: is treating it like he's gonna have that job for
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: the whole year. And I would stay as far away
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: as I can get from McCarthy during drafts because I
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: don't think he's gonna keep that job for very long,
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: if at all.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm totally with you that it feels like, you know,
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: Lucy pulling the football up from Charlie again here, especially
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: given how hype and I mean he was being drafted
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: so high after that twenty twenty two season that it
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: was absurd that I totally agree with you here.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: But you still want to you want it to happen
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: though you doo, but it's just not gonna But it
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: still feels like the hope is there so coming from
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: the guy that just gave him Jerks some profar ten
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: years ago. Yes, well, yeah, who's your cell here? Brew
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: So so mysel I'm gonna go a little bit further
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: up the draft board, but I'm staying in the outfield. Uh,
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: that should give it away, I'm selling Corbyn Carrol and
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: it's not, and it's hear me out. It's not because
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: I don't think Corbyn Carroll's valuable and talented. I think
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: it's because if I look at the that top round
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: top round and a half, the there's just enough uncertainty
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: with Carol of how lost he was in the first
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: half last year.
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: And I know he figured it out.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: I know he was incredibly valuable in the second half,
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: and he you know, he looked like a top of
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: the first round uh kind of talent. But I look
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: past him and I look at somebody like a Lad Junior.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: I look at somebody like a Francis scool indoor, I
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: look at guys like that behind him in the draft order.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I, if I'm making my first round pick,
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: I don't really want to be like, well, I hope
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: that doesn't happen again.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: I don't want hope to be my strategy.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: I want some guy that I feel like I know
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: what I'm getting and if they have a great season,
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: they're gonna be absolutely worth it.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: And if they have an.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: Average or bad season for them, they're like a second
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: or third rounder. Like Carol, I worried if he is
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: a bad season, he's like a tenth round I could,
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: you know, we're not talking about the other al lat year,
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: and I see Julio right nearman in the in the rankings,
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: like Julio and Corbin both have this like they could
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: be number one picks. They also could be number you know,
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: third or fourth round type of guys, because it still
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: seems like they're trying to figure it out. So it's
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: it's not that I don't believe in Corbora Carrol. It's
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: just I believe in some other guys, and there's enough
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: volatility there that I would rather go elsewhere at that
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: point in the draft. I'm not kicking them down, like
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: out of the second round or anything like that. But
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: as I look at that, I think the draft price
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: is just a little too high. Give me MOOKI Bets,
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: give me Vlad, give me those kind of guys. I'm
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: not gonna take Paul Skins that really, but maybe more
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: power to you. So yep, I'm selling. I'm selling a
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: first rounder. Doesn't mean that he's a ninth rounder or
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: tenth rounder. But Carroll's just got to there's something about
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: how much he struggled and how long it took him
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: to figure things out that. I just I worry that
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: there's a little bit more going on the head there
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: a lah Zach grinky uh than anybody really wants to
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: put up with.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think all those takes are fair,
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: and especially like if he's not stealing fifty bags. That's
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: really what buoyed Corby and Carrol back in twenty twenty
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: three is that you were counting on fifty ish bags
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: and being an elite option there that if that speed's
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: not at an elite level, he doesn't impact the ball
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: hard enough to be able to go beyond his mid
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: twenties power.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: And the empower and the speed was the one thing
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: was consistent all season, and so he actually stole more
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: bases in the first half when he wasn't hitting than
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: the second half. Now, don't look at the games played
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: thirty games difference one game one steal difference, just ignore
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: that part of the stat But at the end of
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: the day, like the speed was relatively consistent, he was
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: stealing at the same rate, and it seemed like it
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: just dropped down to probably a normal level for Corbin Carrol.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think that's fair well, yeah, we've got
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: three different ones again because my cell here is going
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: to be Josh Naylor. That I just do not like
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: this move in terms of especially when you're looking at
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: the park factor going into Arizona. It's a huge, huge downgrade.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: It's been you know, near the bottom for right handers.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: I just had it where to go. It is eleventh
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: from the bottom, so ninety four overall. But you know
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: where he came from. Well, I guess progressive is a
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: three year seventy eight. Oh wait, I'm looking at right handers,
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: my bad left handers. Let's do left handers. That's what
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: I need. That's where Chase fields last. Haha, knew, I
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: knew I had seen this at one point. Yes, so
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: Chase is worse at seventy six. Where you've got the guardians.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: You know, for a left handed bat like Josh Naylor,
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: you're closer to league average around like ninety six. And
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: the other factor here is the back half of this
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: Arizona lineup is a little worrisome. If I'm looking at
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: it as the GM of the Diamondbacks that it would help,
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: you know, if Alec Thomas breaks out and provides some
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: strength to the back of it, but you know Naylor's
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: slated hit third, and then you know you have Guriel
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: let clean up with you solid, but then it goes McCarthy.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: You don't know what you're getting out you Hineo Suarez,
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: don't know what you're ganging out of, Peven Smith, Gabriel
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: Moreno's pre solid in the eight hole, and then Perdomo
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: in the nine hole. So you've got a pretty weak
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: supporting cast behind Naylor where I think they can work
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: around him a little bit more. You've got the park
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: change that's gonna be going against him. And then on
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: top of it all, like, I just don't think you're
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: gonna see another year like what we got out Josh
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: Naylor last year in terms of thirty one bombs of
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: one oh eight RBIs that it feels like that's where
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: he can peek at and I just don't know if
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: he can get back to that level again in his
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: career with a barrel rate that doesn't you know, push
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: double digits as well as you're looking at, you know,
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: the first base market where he's going. Let me, it's
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: just not exactly where I want to be buying Josh
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: Naylor in the top one hundred you know, right next
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: to Anthony Santander and Cody Bellinger. Well, I do not
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: really not Bellagie either, but I would rather have Riley
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: Green you know, about ten picks later that there's just
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: better options I think in that area where you either
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: got more ceiling, I think to you, or just more
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: floor at the same time, So I'm not in on
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: Josh Naylor for this year.
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, not going to disagree with you there.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: I think you know, it is a decent ballpark, But
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: I do think Naylor is always a guy that I've questioned,
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: like how much of it's sustainable, And so I think
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: you're right here that Naylor's probably a guy that I'm
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: gonna be fading a little bit. I think some think
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: there's a ton of potential there, like it's hard to
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: knock him down too far, but there's gonna be other
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: guys at that point in the drafts where I'm either
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: drafted my first basement earlier, I'm drafting them late. I'm
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: not probably drafting them in the mid rounds where we're
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: Naylor's going Yeah.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, wo.
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: I would agree with that completely. I think, like you mentioned,
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: the power is going to come down to earth a
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: little bit and didn't hit for a great average last year.
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: You know, I think that will bounce back, but I
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: think he's more of that twenty to twenty five home
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: run guy than thirty plus.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: Okay, well, let's move on to the Arizona prospects or
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: pics click here, Taylor, I'm going to pass over you.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: Who do you got?
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah? So, as the like prospect guy here, I gotta say,
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: my guy's not going to help you in redraft this year.
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: He's quite a ways away, but a good dynasty buy
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: in JD.
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: Dix.
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: So he was a draft pick this year of the
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: Arizona Diamondbacks thirty fifth overall pick and just one of
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: my favorite like mid to late round first year player
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: draft targets. You know, FYPD six two one eight pound
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: prep shortstop, great hit tool, projectable power, good speed, you know,
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: great makeup. The only thing is is like all the
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: Arizona top prospects have dealt with shoulder injuries after they've
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: been drafted, and I feel like Arizona was like, you
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: know what, let's just grab a guy who already has
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: a shoulder injury. And that's j because he already had
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: a shoulder injury that required surgery. He's coming off of that.
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: But I've actually been compiling some first year player draft
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: ADP over at Prospects Live, and he's going forty eighth
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: overall in ADP in the nine drafts that I've logged
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: so far this offseason, and at Prospects Live we have
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: him ranked at thirty eighth. So I think there's really
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: really good value there. I've been grabbing him wherever I can,
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: and I think there's a good mix of really you know,
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: high ceiling and you know, while the shoulder injury causes
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: a little bit of concerns with the floor, you know,
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: when you're looking at these prep bats and what's kind
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: of a down class this year, I would definitely go
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: for ceiling, and I think JD. Dix has that at
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: a really good value.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: That's what I like to hear prep bats that are
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: shortstops that have great value. Switch hitter that, Yeah, this
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: is why I have you on the podcast again, Taylor,
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: that like, this is the type of guy where even
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: though it is a first rounder, he kind of can
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: go a little bit under the radar and you've got
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: the beat on it. I think that's a great take.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: I love I love how deep we're going that this
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: is just fun. I'm gonna ruin that all, by the
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: way with my with my pick.
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: But uh yeah, no, actually cool. You just disparished him
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: a second ago.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: And I I love to go in the miners with
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: my picks to click my prospects. But I'm gonna I'm
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: gonna go with a guy. I'm gonna go with the
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: Quada guy, Peven Smith. I think you know Peven He
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: he was a top draft draft pick. He was number
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: seven overall back in twenty seventeen. He had like he
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: has been the epitome of quadae guy, Like he has
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: bounced between Triple A and the majors. He's always been behind,
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: you know, the guy like Christian Walker.
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: You know, it's not a great outfielder.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: It's that room with d H Like there's just never
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: been a spot for him. And then I take my
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: victory lap last year I was I was so proud
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: of that. I posted about him as a deep sleeper
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: for twenty twenty five, and then later that night he
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: had three home runs in the game that I was
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: really really annoyed time because then he hit three homers
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: in a game.
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: Now I look like I can't really.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: Talk about him all off season, but I'm not seeing
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: a whole lot come out about him. But if you
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: look at what he did at the end of the
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: season last year from Mountain mid August on when he
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: really got full playing time and he came back from
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: the miners, he had a forty eight percent hard hit rate.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: He was hitting x of velocity, but between ninety one
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: ninety two his barrel rate was twenty percent. He was
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: absolutely just blistering the ball. And one of the things
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: I love to do is go out to Baseball Savat
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: and just dig through all of the guys that don't
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: qualify for any list, and Peven Smith's Savant page is
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: like blood red.
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: He just hammered the ball.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: Yes, I get it was small sample size, I get
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: all those things, but it looked like whatever it was,
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: he figured it out. And if you look at the
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: kind of trajectory of even like the homers he hit
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: last year, he was hitting these things to like dead
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: center there in Arizona, like that is not an easy
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: place to take these things out, and so he was
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: absolutely on fire. He's not gonna do that all season,
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: I get it. But for a guy that really is
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: going off of the board here at pick four hundred
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: and fifty eight, which otherwise known as a free agent
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: and is supposed to be penciled in platoon. I fully
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: expect with with Peven Smith, but he's to be penciled
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: into the starting lineup. He's finally got that playing time.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: I'm really excited about him because you know that when
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: he's in the lineup, he has the potential to do
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: some damage, and I just don't think people are talking
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: about him the way that he should. So he's not
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: a prospect. But at the same time, I think he's
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: an absolutely guy that they can click, and that's a
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: good lineup to be in and take advantage. So I'm
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: just so glad that Taylor did not say that that's
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: where Alec Thomas was gonna be playing earlier, because I
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: was gonna look like a fool if I was trying
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: to sell Peven Smith on the back of it.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: So no, I think this is a take. I didn't
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: mean to disparage him too much because I'm also a
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: Paydan Smith truther that I think he's a great late dart.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's going next to like Max Kepler and Andy
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: pat Has for crying out loud that like he actually
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: has shown real power, real pop. It's just a matter
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: of But it's also like the price in especially a redraft,
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: where yes, I will take that dart through all day,
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: but if it doesn't work, don't you know, dwell on
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: it too much.
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's almost like a profile type where like he is, yes,
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: you know, lots of seasons of mediocrity and then he
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: comes out of nowhere and just posts this fantastic here
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: and like you mentioned, there's a lot to like about it.
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: So yeah, I think at his cost, like, why not
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: take a shot?
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's he's gonna be more productive than than JD.
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: Dix next year.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: I can guarantee that, probably less productive than Corbyn Carrol.
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: So I feel very very well, uh that I'm in
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: the in.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: The green here? Cool?
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: How about you?
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: All right? My pic to click here is Geno Groover.
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: So he is a third baseman in the DBAC system
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, second round pick out at n C State,
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: coming off a fantastic twenty twenty four. He played three
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: levels of ball, sixty one total games, one thirty three
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: WRC plus across the board with a two eighty one
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: three sixty seven four to seventy four slash line, and
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: a lot of this too is I think he's got
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: a shot at debuting in twenty twenty five. I mean,
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: it's not hard to really see a scenario where Aujarnio
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: Suarez turns back into that pumpkin, especially given his age,
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: and there's nobody standing between Groover and that third base
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: job except for Suarez, and so I think, especially if
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: you're in any dynasty leagues, uh, this is the time
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: to go out there and acquire Groover now while you can,
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: because as the season goes on, he's going to be
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: eminently closer to that third base job in Arizona, and
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: I think when it comes to opening twenty twenty six,
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be his job to lose.
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: I love this call out. I think he's awesome. My
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: podcast co host Kyle is like leading the Groover fan club,
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: so he would definitely endorse this as well. But yeah,
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: great call out there. I don't know if that will
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: see him, you know, maybe before like the end of
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: the year, but like you mentioned, if there's a need,
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: he's kind of the best third basement in the high
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: miners there for them, unless you consider you know, Lawler
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: to be a third baseman there, so we'll see what happens.
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I it's a great call up.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: And if you're sitting behind a guy at the major
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: league level, it's behind you. Henrioswuorrez is the guy you
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: want to be sitting behind a guy with that type
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: of profile because it can go south in a hurry,
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: and when it goes south, you will know it went
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: south like that's that's the kind of guy that is.
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: He can be great for a while and then it's
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: gonna be absolute dreadful for a while. So yeah, I've
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: met with you. I don't know that we'll see him
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: next year, but maybe maybe a couple off at the
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: end of the season.
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: All right, Okay, well that will wrap up the Dbacks.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: Let's move on to the Colorado Rockies, who are continuing
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: to be the Colorado Rockies. It has been quite the
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: off season, as you know. They've made huge moves like
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: bringing back Kevin Stallings. I just said Kevin Stallings. That's
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: his father, who actually Jacob Stallings. This is a bit
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: of a side tangent for the Bloomington normal folks here
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: in the crowd from Central Allinois. Kevin Songings used to
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: be the Illinois state head coach. We went to grade
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: school with Jacob Stallings, so we've seen him back in
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: the day. So it's really fun just kind of seeing
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: his name penciled in where he is. Also, I mean,
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: he's thirty five, but he's emblematic of what the Rockies
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: have done in terms of holding back their prospects and
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: just kind of continuing to toil along.
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: So this is.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: Also I think one of the most intriguing teams for fantasy.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: Obviously you have the Coors Field of factor, but because
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: you can't touch any of the pictures except for maybe
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: an N only league, and even then I don't like
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: to touch them, you are always chasing these bats. Great
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: fodder for my piece every week on the Waiver Wire Report,
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: especially now that the Rockies have these schedules where I
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: love taking advantage of where they do a week in
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: Coors essentially then a week out and you can try
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: to stream that. That. That's why I think there's lots
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: of interesting bats here. But Taylor, I'm gonna pass.
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: It over to you first.
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: Who is your buye from the Colorado Rockies.
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so my diamondback Spy was kind of a young outfielder.
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: I'm going to continue the trend in the Rockies here
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: with Jordan Beck. Right now, he's a short side platoon
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: on roster resource with Nolan Jones and left field, but
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: if you look at right field there it's Sam Hilliard,
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: who you know, his career is thirty four percent, strikeout
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: rate thirty five percent last year, And it would be
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: the most Rockies thing ever to finally play Sam Hilliard
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: when he's in his thirties, when they refuse to play
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: him in kept blocking him with veterans back in his
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: twenties when all the fantasy players wanted to see Sam Hilliard.
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: So I wouldn't put it past the Rockies to do that.
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: But I don't see how they can justify playing Sam
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: Hilliard all year. And I think the beneficiary of that
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: is going to be Jordan Beck right now. He's going
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: four hundred and seventy six in January NFBC ADP. You know,
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: I think he could win that job out of spring training.
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: He could play right phil. He has the arm for it.
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: It was a bad debut last year. He struggled to
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: make quality contact. He fractured his hand in May. You know,
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: returned in August, continued to struggle. Did not have good
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: x velocities last year, but showed good raw power with
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: eleven I'm sorry, won eleven point five. Max Ev was
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: much better in Triple A. In forty two games he
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: slashed three nineteen, four h two five fifty eight with
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: eight home runs at six dolen basis, So that shows
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: you a little bit of his power speed upside. He
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: had eleven point five percent walk rate in twenty two
• 49:53
  Speaker 4: point five percent k rate in Triple A. There really
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: good x velocities, really good barrel and hard hit rate.
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: And again another guy with pedigree. He was the thirty
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: eighth overall pick in twenty twenty two. He went twenty
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: five home runs twenty stolen bases in the miners in
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: twenty twenty three and still just twenty three years old.
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: I don't see why he's not going higher in drafts
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: right now.
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love this pick. I took him in my
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: fifty round draft and hold recently because of all this stuff,
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: like the pathway for playing time in Colorado is there
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: for Beck, And.
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: I'm so glad you called out the one problem with
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: Jordan Beck is not Jordan Beck.
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: It's the Colorado Rockies.
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: Like this feels like every other Rockies prospect that's been
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: like just good enough to make the list is well,
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: he's five tool guy, all these kind of things. We
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: just kind of make sure that we give him enough
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: time to fully develop and then they bury him in
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: the roster for three years. So if it wasn't for that,
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: I feel like you'd even higher discussion.
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: But I'm with you.
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: When he got called up last year, you look at
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: the profile, I'm like, why why are we not buying
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: this guy? And injuries of the thing you know, it
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: did didn't work out. But I'm right there with you.
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: There's a lot a lot to like with Jordan Beck
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: and playing that thin and air of Colorado Like somebody's
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: bound to do it?
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: Why not Jordan Beck?
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah? All right, brew who's your picker here for the
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: bye in Colorado?
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: Well, this is a guy I've been I've been talking
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: about pretty much all off season, and a lot of
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: others I think I have started to pick up on
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: this train too. So it's I don't think it's a
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: it's a shocker. Uh, We're gonna be talking about first
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: baseman Michael Toglia.
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: He is I think It's an easy kind of pick
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: as far as a buy here with the Rockies.
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: Uh, last year I did, I was looking at doing
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: an article on Brent Rooker and figuring out trying figure
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: out who's the next Brett Brooker.
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: And you know, the things you look for is.
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: A guy with power, guy with sneaky speed, like not
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: actually necessarily speed, but it seems how somehow steal the bases,
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: but then just strikes out way too much. Like that
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: was that was the profile of Brett Rooker coming into
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: the last year. And if you look at totally like
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: all of those things apply, he just has a strikeout
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: problem and he hammers the ball. He absolutely somehow uses
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: kind of league average speed to pitch in ten bases
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: across one hundred.
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: And sixteen games last year. And so I think this.
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: Is the kind of guy that absolutely could go two
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: fifty thirty five steel fifteen bases in Colorado. So I
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: think with where he's going right now, he is the
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: third Rocky off the board. But that's like complementing the
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: White Sox being drafted. It's not really saying much. He's
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: going to pick one seventy eight overall for the Rockies,
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: And you know, that's not from a first base perspective.
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: That's the sixteenth first basement off the board that's in
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: the Paul Goldschmidt, Lewis Rise if you want to call
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: him a first baseman, Yandy Diaz Ces Mountain Castle.
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: Realm. Like, to me, totally is head and shoulders. Those guys.
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: We should be talking about it with a Christin Cossas,
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: Jake Berger Sminster Steer Tier about four or five rounds earlier.
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: So I think there's a lot for totallyo.
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: It's one thing that he really has to work on,
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: cutting the strikeouts, being patient, and I really do think
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: that he's gonna he's gonna do that this year. So
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: uh might might be a guy that's out there a
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: lot in the industry, but I'll be on the bandwagon.
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean this is a pro totally podcast. We
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: seem to talk about him like every few weeks. Taylor,
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: what's your take on Tolio here? Because I know he
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: can be divisive. I was listening Rays and Barrels was
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: dogging on him this week, But I'm I'm a little
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: bit more here on Jeremy side. Just like the price,
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: the Colorado of it all, I'll take the strikeouts.
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you'll have to wait till the next segment to
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: hear what I have to say about taking I might
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: not invited back on this podcast. Sorry, guys, I.
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: Mean you can do it right now. What's your sall?
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: Agree with the power, like huge, huge power. And I
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: do love the the Brent Rooker call out there because
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: I think that's what you're hoping for, right.
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: Rooker was I'll be honest, Broker was a guy I
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: did not believe in him at the start of last
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: season because I'm like, the strikeouts are too much, He's
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: not going to put it all together. That was a
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: mirage in twenty twenty three, and then granted I was wrong,
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: So maybe I have a hole for my analysis of
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: this type of player. But the contact is just so bad,
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: Like it's not just the strikeouts, it's you know, the
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: whiff rate. The fact that he had thirty two point
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: one percent strikeout rate last year and that was his
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: best career strikeout rate is kind of scary. He has
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: a long history of terrible contact rates and high k
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: rates in the minors and you look at the two
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: eighteen average last year, that's again another career high. Like
• 54:37
  Speaker 4: if he plays all year. He can definitely hit more
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: than thirty home runs, but what is going to be
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: the cost in batting average there? And then are the
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: Rockies going to give him that amount of runway to
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: do that? Now? They've shown, you know, a willingness to
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: play players in the past that have had really high
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: k rates, so you know, maybe they would do that,
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: but he's not a good defender, and kind of looking
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: at the first base pool, you know, you mentioned some
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: of the guys going around him, but like he's going
• 55:06
  Speaker 4: at I think I have him an ADP of one
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: to seventy five. Like I'd rather wait and get like
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: Tyler Soderstrom at two eighty seven, because I think what
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: you're gonna get is gonna be very similar. And I
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: would rather take guys like Cees and you know, Michael
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: Bush and those kind of guys over him as well,
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: because I just I don't buy the hit tool. So
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: that's why I'm against you guys there, I think. And
• 55:29
  Speaker 4: you're not kicked off yet. We'll see as we go on.
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: But I think that the good news is, like you
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: you're actually agreeing with exact sameon else as I have,
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: is that it comes down to the hit tool. Do
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: you think he can he can solve that and improve,
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: because if he can't, he's exactly where you say, if
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: he can't these where I say, it comes down to
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: does he do that?
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: And I think that's uh.
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: And I was also a b Britt Rooker guy going
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: into last year, and so maybe I have a soft
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: spot for the guys that strike out too much and
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: seems steel bases but are slow. I don't know, but
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: I think that that is You're absolutely right, like that
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: is the challenge here with Totally. If he figures that
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: piece out, it could be really really good. If he doesn't,
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: it could be really really bad. And so I'm buying
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: the upside here. I do find it kind of ironic
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: that he goes off the board, like in the same
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: round of Luis Arayah's, which is like you're talking like
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: ninety nine hundred percentile contact and then Totally of which
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: is like three percentile contacts. So maybe you just drop
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: both of those guys and they somehow rub off on
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: each other. I think that's like a clubhouse thing and
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: fantasy game, right, they just spend time with each other,
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: they learn. Yeah, I'm very much a guy about the
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: clubhouse atmosphere on my fantasy teams.
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: All right, well that was Michael Tolia talk here, and
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: I mean this is it's kind of funny that you
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: got into that conversation on him here with the Rockies,
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: because honestly, I think you can have this sort of
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: argument with all these guys where like the Rockies of
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: it is such a haze and all of them strike
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: out too much, all of them have awful played approaches.
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: And I'm also going to get into that bucket. I'm
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: picking Hunter Goodman catcher slash outfielder just because I don't
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: see how Kevin Stalling I did. Again, Jacob Stellings sticks
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: with this job like he's so ancient. They've gotta what
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: are they doing? Like what are you doing in Colorado?
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: Like why would you not play Hunter Goodman, your cross
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: controlled young catcher and just give it a shot, Give
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: it a shot, let it see what happens. The nice
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: thing here in Colorado two is the corners are a
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: mess between like the outfield first base and first in
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: third base two and dh that like there's lots of
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: little spots where Goodman can pick up at bats and
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: the the betting average is not going to be great.
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: Like I think if you get something that is even
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: two ten, you're lucky. But essentially like you're looking at
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: like a Mike Xenino Zenino in Colorado with a draft
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: position of a three fourteen average pick. So I think
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: he's a great like upside play for a second catcher,
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: and especially like if you need that extra pop up power,
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: a little bit extra accounting stats that this is a
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: catcher who will get a little bit of extra run
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: compared to your other catcher twos that are out there.
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the only concern I have with Goodman
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: is he's not a good catcher. But it doesn't seem
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: that the Rockies seem to really care about those types
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: of things. Yeah, exactly, so it might it might just
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: be Okay, I think, you know, Goodman's gonna be an
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: interesting guy. He has shown some of that ability in
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: the minors, shown some of that power.
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: Stallings. Is he gonna be that? Is it gonna be
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: good Man?
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: I don't really know, But if I have to pick
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: the two, I think Goodman has the better potential, which
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: just means the Rockies clearly you're not gonna play him.
• 58:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I do like No, I love the call out.
• 58:53
  Speaker 4: I think he's kind of a slept on guy. And
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: you know, the contact it was not that bad, and
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: particularly in the upper miners, you know, he was okay
• 59:02
  Speaker 4: in that regard. I don't think he's gonna you know,
• 59:05
  Speaker 4: strike out thirty five percent of the time or anything.
• 59:07
  Speaker 4: And it's just a matter, you know, like you said, Brewer,
• 59:09
  Speaker 4: of like where where is he going to go? Are
• 59:12
  Speaker 4: the Rockies going to play him? The defensive liabilities are
• 59:15
  Speaker 4: a concern, but he can play, you know, some outfield,
• 59:18
  Speaker 4: he can play you know a little bit of everywhere,
• 59:21
  Speaker 4: first base maybe if if I'm right about Toglia, So
• 59:24
  Speaker 4: I think there's a lot of value to be gained there.
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, Taylor, we already got your cell here.
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: So brew who's your self.
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of hard to sell on a team
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: that has like one top one hundred draft pick, and
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: so I just decided to sell the entire rotation in bullpen.
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: And just like I'm and I feel like it's a
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: cop out because I actually do kind of like sell
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: Seth Halverson in the in the back of that bullpen,
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: like kind of uh, if he wasn't pitching in Colorado.
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: But I look at that and I go like, there's
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: literally nobody that pitches for the Rockies. Like it feels
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: like in he was past, there's at least been like
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: one guy that like, man if if I can just
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: like pick my spots and like platoon a pitcher type
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: of thing and playing only in the way games, Like,
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: there is not a single guy there that I have
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: any interest at whatsoever of picking. And that probably goes
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: to the fact that the top two pitchers being drafted
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: are Seth Halverson and Tyler Kenny, guys that they might
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: be the closer, and they start being drafted a pick
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: four hundred and sixty.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: So so you see, did you see the ADP when
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: their first starting pitcher is going and who it is?
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, I wasn't going to get into my prospects,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: but I we could go there. But yeah, Chase Dollander
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: is the is the first pitcher going off the board
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: for them, does not a job, even have a job,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: and shouldn't have the job because he's still he's still
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: some work to do, but has Like if there is
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: a guy to pick from the Rockies that is a pitcher, uh,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: it is Chase Dollander.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: I think he has a ton of potential.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: Literally, if he wasn't pitching for the Rockies, he probably
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: five spots higher on everybody's starting pitching rankings. Like, I
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: think he has a top five arm in the miners,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: but it's just not in the top five situation or
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: top twenty nine situations that you'd want to be in.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: So that fast forwarding, my prospect picked to click was
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: gonna be Chase Dollander just because of that. There's literally
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: nothing standing in his way, literally nothing standing in his way,
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: and it just it cut's rough to be pitching for
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: the Rockies.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: So I'm some the entire rotation.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: I'm buying apparently everybody in the miners for the Rockies
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: from the Miners just because they're not pitching in Colorado.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I think that's great. I love Dollander, Taylor,
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: what do you think, like especially in considering I think
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: you're in a lot more like dynasty leagues that are
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: really active in the off season compared to us, And
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: so is this somebody you would be trying to acquire
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: here in the off season, just kind of knowing that
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: maybe his price is muted by the Colorado of it all.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, He's been a for me because I have to
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 4: rank prospects, and I never know what to do with
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 4: Dolander because it's like if he, like, if he was
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 4: on any other team, he'd be like, like you mentioned,
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 4: for a top five prospect, if not the number one
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 4: pitching prospect, Like he's that good. But we just have
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 4: such a long history of Colorado just eating up pictures
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 4: and spitting them out, and it's already like pitching prospects.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 4: You know, you guys have heard of ten Staff. I'm
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 4: sure there's no such thing as a pitching prospect. They're
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 4: already super high risk, and then you layer on the
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 4: Colorado effect on top of that. I think he's by
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 4: far the best pitcher in Colorado, and I would take
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 4: him over any of these guys. But I think you
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 4: have to figure out, like how much faith do you
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 4: put in a young pitcher going to Colorado. I don't
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 4: have a lot of faith, so I probably am not
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 4: buying him necessarily, but there is huge upside there, and
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 4: if anyone's gonna beat Goersfield, it's going to be Dolander.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: I think he's actually the kind of guy that if you,
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: I would say, happen to him like I'm probably dynastag
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: he's gone. Right at this point, he's not available, but
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: he's the kind of guy that I think you could
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: pick up Layton drafts in like a redraft league, and
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: he gets hot in the miners and he gets called
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: up like he's trade fodder. U. That is absolutely what
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: you use Chase Dollander for, because he's right, I don't
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: want to deal with that. He gets called up and
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: he takes like two games on the on the road,
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: and it's like, look at this, he's keeping them all
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: on the ground.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: This is great.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: Like that's to me.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: I play the economics of fantasy almost as much as
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: the players, and so I actually see that as the
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: value of Chase Dolander is not the play of Chase Dolander.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: It's the fact that somebody's gonna see that potential and
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: forget for just a second that he's pitching in Colorado.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: And when he gets that call up, they'll look at
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: those minor stats. He'll get one or two games where
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: he does show some crazy movement and things like that,
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: and people are be like, this is this is the
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: first guy since my Campton to be able to figure
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: out the right Colorado and that that's probably saying too
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: much about my Campton and going way too wear back
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: in history. But I think he's the most valuable rock
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: and it's not by a small amount.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, we're gonna rewind a little bit to
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: get to myself. I actually I was a little bit
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: in nearboat to Jeremy where I was just like, I
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: wasn't sure like who to sell here, because I think
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: there's lots of great buying opportunities for bats given how
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: late the ADPs are on the Rockies. But even given
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: all that, I think I have to put the cell
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: label here on Nolan Jones going around like pick to
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: fifty five ish, And part of it is just like
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: I want more from him. You look at the the
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: actual kind of like projections, they're just not very exciting
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: in terms of somebody who last year, you know, we
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: were talking about like what like a third or fourth
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: rounder who was really a hot commodity. I think the
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: back injuries that he's gone through has really sapped a
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: lot more than people want to give him credit for.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: You look at just the ground ball rates from both
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: the majors and the miners last year. Again the caveat
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: that he was injured in like rehabbing when he was
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: doing a lot of this. But you know in twenty
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: twenty three when he had that great kind of breakout
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: for Colorado, he was putting up around like a forty
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: two percent ground ball rate. And in the miners with
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: and even in the majors with the Guardians, there is
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: like at thirty five percent. It really flipped the wrong way.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: Last year, you know, it was fifty two percent for Colorado.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: It was around the upper forties in the miners. And
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: so you're looking at a player who I mean, if
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: you're looking for a power bat, you don't want him
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: to be hitting it on the ground half the time
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: or more. And so I just don't think that like
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: the bounce back is really there for Nolan Jones. And
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: uh it's kind of sad because I think there is
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: something too, just like Colorado and kind of cheaping out
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: on a lot of areas on their team, and one
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: of it is like the medical advances, especially given the
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: issues that they have with the altitude. And so yeah,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: I just I don't see it coming back for Nolan
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: Jones personally that I think not only am I selling
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: him in redrafts, but anywhere where you've got kind of
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: keeper and dynasty prospects related to him. I need Nolan
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: Jones to show it to me again before I buy
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: back in.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's fair. I was pretty much out
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 4: on him, and then I inherited him on an orphan
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 4: team this offseason, so then I had to talk myself
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 4: into him. If you've ever had an orphan you might
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 4: know how that goes. But like, I agree, like I
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 4: kind of want to give him a pass for last
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 4: year because of the injuries. But at the same time,
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 4: like he was already a risky profile and now he's
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 4: even more risky, So I'm not drafting him in redraft
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 4: or targeting him. I think he's You're not getting enough
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 4: of a discount for that risk.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, we'll good and go back to you,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: Taylor though for your prospect pick to click here in Colorado.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so I'm gonna go with Cole Kerrig. So he
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 4: was the sixty fifth overall pick in twenty twenty three.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 4: Six ' to two two hundred pounds switch hitting out fielder.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 4: Just a crazy year last year in High A one
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 4: hundred and eleven games, slash two eighty three, fifty eight
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 4: four to seventy five, sixteen home runs fifty one stolen bases.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 4: He makes great contact, just a nineteen percent k rate,
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 4: does a little bit of everything. So he played shortstop
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 4: in center field last year. The year before he played catcher.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 4: I think the biggest knock on him is he just
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 4: hasn't done it the high levels of the miners. He
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 4: was a little old for Hia. But if he hits
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 4: the ground running at double A this year, his stock
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 4: is going to absolutely sore. And we're talking about bove
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 4: average hit tool at least average power. He's a plus runner,
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 4: also a great fielder. I mean, there's nothing not to
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 4: like other than we just haven't seen it at double
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 4: air higher.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally agree that. Yeah, this is a guy
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: that he can go like twenty forty in Colorado. Wow,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: look out, uh okay, my pick to click. It's a
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: personal and cheese ball. I'm never gonna quit him. It's
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: jan Keel for Anandez. I love him too much that like,
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, we just spent all of this Colorado Rockies
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: time denigrating all their corner bats. That there's such an
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: easy pathway for yan Kill to rise through the rest
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: of this system, be able to get up into Colorado
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: and yes, I know he's not a great fielder. I
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: know the plate approach is brutal, that he chases everything,
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: but you can't deny that he's actually produced results like
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: with that approach throughout the miners. And he's also been
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: so young when he's been coming through all of his
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: minor league stops that he was twenty one years old
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: last year in Triple A. He also has this really
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: kind of insane track record of once he sees a level,
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: he struggles really bad repeats it comes back, makes adjustments
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: to be able to conquer that level, and he's done
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: that time and again throughout his just minor league career
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: that I think once he gets back into Triple A
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: this year, he's gonna find that love of comfort in
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: terms of being able to readjust to the new environment.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: And then he's one stop away from Colorado and at
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: that point, like I think, this the sky's kind of
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: the limit. Like I'm not gonna lie that this is
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: an awful baseball player. It's almost like the Michael totally
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: like a conversation that we just had that he's got
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: no defensive value, an awful plate approach, but like if
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: there's any team that's gonna give him a shot, and
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: especially from a fantasy perspective where you're looking at like,
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: man if I could get eighty games of yan Kiel
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: Fernandez in Coors Field, just like Mash and Tators, I
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: think now is the time to buy and keep her
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: in dynasty leagues, especially because people have really been low
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: on him after that triple A performance over threey three
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: games to end twenty twenty four.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: I think I have to call you on this one.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 3: I think you just gotta let it go.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: Let it go, not until he's like twenty five. You
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: gotta give me until he's like twenty five. I get
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: a couple more years of this, right the argument.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: I understand that he's got a lot of things he's
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: got to figure out, and then you got the Rockies
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: of it all, So I'll give you credit. This isn't
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: the Rockies part of the segments. We can dismiss that.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: But he's still got a little you can dream. I'll
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: give you the dream.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 3: Yes, Yeah, I'm torn on him.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 4: Like I remember, everybody was super over the moon about
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 4: him like early twenty twenty three until he got to
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 4: double A and then last year he actually made some
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 4: contact games. It gets overshotoed a little bit with just
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 4: his poor performance and triple A there, but I don't know.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 4: He's another guy where like it could go either way.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 4: There's definitely some risk there, but the price in Dynasty
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 4: right now is probably as cheap as it's ever been.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 4: So if you believe in him, then yeah, take a shot,
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 4: because there's some deafine ups right there.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: Yep, And that's that's exactly what I'm focused on. So
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: yan Keel, love you forever, Bud. You're always going to
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: be a part of my heart. So all right, let's
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: move on to the Los Angeles Dodgers. Here. I'm not
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: even sure if I need much of an introduction to
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: coming off of the World Series win in twenty twenty four,
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: they have an absolute super team. Every free agent has
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: signed with them. They're going to cause a twenty twenty
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: six lockout when everyone demands a salary cap on this team,
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: and whoever inherits this ownership in twenty years, good luck.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: So Taylor can have passed it right over to you.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: I know that you're gonna view this team a little
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: bit through a different lens as a Giants fan, so
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: I hope that you can you know, direct that hatred
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: in the right place here with your picks. Who is
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: going to be your bye from the Los Angeles Dodgers.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 4: I will I will admit it was really hard for
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 4: me to pick a bye because I just want to
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 4: sell all these guys.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 3: I will say.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 4: You know, I think Berer mentioned it earlier. He kind
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 4: of denigrated Andy Payes and that's my that's my buye.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: Okay, that that wasn't me.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 3: Let's be very clear. That was not me. That was Coolly.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: Sorry, I might not have disagreed, but I didn't say
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: it out loud. I threw you on the bus for
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: Cooley's things.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I just think, like I love investing in
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 4: guys who you know, are not starting on roster resource
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 4: right because the values is going to be depressed. I
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 4: think a lot of people look at the signing of
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 4: Haisong Kim, they look at Michael Conforto, you know, Teoscar
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 4: Hernandez is back, and they say Andy po Has doesn't
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 4: have a place. He's not gonna fit right now. He's
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 4: listen to a short sight platoon bat. But he debuted
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 4: last year after just twenty five career games in Triple A,
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 4: and he held his own at the major league level. Like, yeah,
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 4: he had some ups and downs, but he posted an
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 4: average over two sixty and eight hundred plus ops in
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 4: like four months April, June, August, and September. You know,
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 4: he got sent down after July slump, but then returned
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 4: in September and hit two sixty seven with four home
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 4: runs in his last eighteen games, had two home runs
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 4: in eight games in the postseason.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: Two.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 4: And the Dodgers have the flexibility to move players around.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 4: You know, I think Andy po Has can find a
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 4: role in that outfield if he can hit. He can
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 4: also play a passable center field too. And you look
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 4: at you know who's listed their centerfielder right now, Tommy
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 4: Edmond Edmund can move into the infield. You know, Hasan
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 4: Kim is listed as kind of that second base platoon bat,
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 4: but we don't really know what he is or what
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 4: he's gonna do. And again, if if Pies can hit,
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 4: you know, he he could have that role. He's not
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 4: a steal much, although he is pretty fast, but he
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 4: could provide a decent batting average, lots of power. You know,
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 4: the EV's weren't crazy in the big leagues, but he
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 4: showed good batspeed, good barrel rate, good launch angle, and
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 4: had really fantastic EV's in contact at triple A. At
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 4: triple A he had one hundred percentile ex wloba, so
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 4: pretty good. You know, great barrel rate, hard hit rate,
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 4: EV's with rate, contact rate, all those things in the minors,
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 4: and right now you can get him in you know,
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 4: adp behind guys like Andrew Bennettendee, Dalton Varshow Starling Marte Like,
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 4: I don't know how much you're gonna get out of
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 4: those guys, but I've rather take a shot on, you know,
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 4: a young guy with upside like Pies.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I've always liked Pask and the projections
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: have too. Uh, it is gonna be like it'll be
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: a fun scramble, like if there is an injury in
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: that Dodgers lineup, because once Pajs like gets path to
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: full playing time, I think everybody's gonna be on him.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I like this great kind of pick of
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: taking him early, kind of knowing that the Dodgers all
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: nine can't stay healthy for an entire season.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm interested to see where Taylor goes with his
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: future bypicks because there's a trend of developing here. It's
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: guys that have really good profiles salt you know, Uh,
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: I say high floors. They got a sniff last year
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: but didn't quite get it for for whatever reason. So
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: I'm very interesting to see where you go because I
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: don't disagree with it. You know, another guy just like
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: Beck when he got called up. You look at that
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: that profile, You're like, I mean, there's not a lot
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: of questions there. It's just a matter like let it happen.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: I also said the same thing about Gavin Lux and
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: look where we are. But I but hey, it's the Dodgers.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: Finding a buye is not the.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 3: Easiest thing to do.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: So where did you find your biber?
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: Well, Taylor actually mentioned him briefly and about the flexibility,
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: and that's Tommy Edmond. This is also the slight of
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: a Homer pick. Being a Cardinals fan was very annoyed,
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: but that by that trade. And really, when it comes
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: down to a few things, is like Tommy Evans never
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: not produced when he's been healthy and playing, and he
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: lost lost the season last year with that with that
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: wrist injury, and so you know, he clearly looked healthy
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: in the postseason.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: And you know, he he is gonna be batting probably
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: like eighth in that lineup, and that's like the best
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: lineup to hit eight them because that's basically batting leadoff
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: in front of show Hey and Mookie and Freddie and
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: Will's and you know, literally one of the best lineups
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: in the planet. So like, if if there's ever an
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: eighth hitter that's going to score one hundred runs, it's
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: Tommy Edmund. And I think he could easily steal twenty
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: five bases.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 3: He's not you know, he's not gonna hit like two
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 3: ninety or anything like that.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: He's probably two sixty type hitter. And so I think
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: Edmond's just going to fill the stat sheet. And I
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: think people are gonna be sleeping on him because.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 3: He he just wasn't there last year. He wasn't around.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: It looked like the Cardinals sold low on him, which
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: they did. You know, if you pay attention to the postseason, Yeah,
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: there's a little magic that that might carry. But right
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: now he's going off the board as the forty second outfielder.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: You know, stayed in Raffaela, Layane, Thomas, Taylor, Ward Parker, Meadows,
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: Victor Robolis, like that's the area that he that he's
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: going in, and like he is head and shoulders from
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: me above above that group, even Brandon Nemo and Josh
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: Slow ahead of him, Colton Kowser, like I'd bump him
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: up into like that a Dollas Garcia PCA.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 3: Type type range.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: And I'm I'm willing to talk to him, even a
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: few of those guys like like Cruz and Kwan that
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: I'd be willing to take Tommy Edmund over. So coolly
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: add on to it, pour on, Tommy Edmond is the buy,
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: partially because there's too many other guys that are going in.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 3: Like the top one hundred, but also like it's legit.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think a couple of the other
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: reasons are. I mean, he should add shortstop and probably
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: second base eligibility throughout the year. So that's just a
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: dangerous tool for your team out there. I think the
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: projections are waiting what happened in twenty twenty four a
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: little bit too much coming off that wrist injury. I
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: mean you can see the barrel rate was down, the
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: hard hit rate was down, the babbit was down, but
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: that's because he was still battling through the back end
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: of a wrist injury. So I think you're looking at
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: something that can hop a little bit more towards back
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: to like his twenty twenty two line, you know, when
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: he was able to hit two sixty five because the
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: babbot was over three hundred pop thirteen homers. I don't
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: think the ninety five runs are in the profile unless
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: he somehow is able to hit lead off for these
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: Dodgers or a second or something like that and really
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: move up. But I mean, I think you're looking at
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: somebody who's gonna be sniffing like fifteen twenty five with
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: a two sixty average and great versatility. I yeah, I
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: think it's a It's a bye all day for me too.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: I love the fact that you just quoted my rasball
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: article from last weekend fifteen twenty five to sixty five.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: I'm really glad that you read.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 3: My work.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: Memorized it. Yeah. I slept on it and just kind
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: of sunk into the brain.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 4: I gotta agree with you, guys. He was almost my bye.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna be honest with you. So I'm glad I
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 4: didn't go with him, because you know, you guys both
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 4: picked him. But yeah, I agree with everything you guys said,
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 4: I think he's a fantastic buy and super utter valued
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 4: right now.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: All right, well, yeah, I only took till our third
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: team to get onto the same page, Taylor, who's your
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: cell here? Oh?
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 4: The entire roster though, I almost went with the entire
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 4: pitching stat like starting rotation, but I'm gonna go with
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 4: heis on Kim. And the reason why is because right
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 4: now he's going at a three twenty nine overall ADP,
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 4: which is not that high, but a midpick of one
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 4: ninety two in January, which is way too high for
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 4: this guy. He's going ahead of guys who I would
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 4: rather take a shot on, like a Gavin looks like
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 4: a Michael Massey, Ronnie Mauricio, Juan Brido, if he wins
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 4: that second base job with the Guardians, like there's even
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 4: Auto Lopez, Like there's other guys I would rather have
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 4: above Haisong Kim because a there's no guarantee he starts.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 4: Even if he starts, it could be a platoon role,
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 4: which is what roster resource has him for. And he's
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 4: got limited upside. There's no power at all. The hope
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 4: is for a good batting average and some steals, but again,
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 4: there's no guarantee he holds down every day roll with
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 4: the Dodgers, and even if he does, it could be
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 4: a part time role and he's gonna be at bottom
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 4: of that lineup anyway. I just I don't see why
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 4: you would invest in him at all really for fantasy
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 4: this year.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: The only reasons because you want to have Hasng Kim,
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: and Heisong Kim on your team, and that's fun. That's
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: that's the reason that that you that you do this,
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: and so that's you know, we all in those leagues
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: that have that guy. That's just like, I want to
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: have a fun team there. That's what's driving redp right now.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And I mean the other like risk here is
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: that he actually plays a lot and like hits two
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: thirty and or two twenty with no power and no
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: counting stats, just like because he fields well enough and
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: can be moved around the diamond that the Dodgers use him,
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: and just you don't get enough value from him that
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: it kills your batting average. Crazy like difference between his
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: projections right now, Steamer has m a ninety seven WRC
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: plus Oopsie had a seventy seven WRC plus. I don't
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: know if there's like a more divisive player that I'm
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: aware of between like the steamer and the oopsie stats,
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: and so it'll be fascinating to see like where the
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: bad X projections come out on him, because you can
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: see both scenarios happening here with Hayes on Kim.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think I saw Jordan talk about
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 4: this on Twitter my Prospects Live Quality by the way,
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 4: Uh he mentioned that he doesn't have like good inputs
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 4: for foreign players yet, so you're gonna see really difference
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 4: in his oopsie projections versus the other projections out there. Again,
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 4: I think, you know, two seventy five to two eighty
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 4: is what you would expect on the high end. I
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 4: just I don't see him getting that. You know, even
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 4: projections have him for like five home runs and like
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 4: double digit steals. I could see the double digit steals
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 4: if you can get enough playing time, but like again,
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 4: like what is that really getting you if if you
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 4: meant like you mentioned Mike, like if the batting average
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 4: isn't there, he's really hurting your team if he's playing
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 4: at that point.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's fair. Jeremy, who is your cell
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: here on the Dodgers.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: Well, I was good glad to hear Taylor say he's
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: selling potentially the whole rotation, because I am going to
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: probably go and make some people mad by saying I
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: am selling Roki sasaki twentieth picture off the board. And
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: I'm a huge, huge fan of rookie Susaki. You we've
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: talked about him on this podcast before. I was excited
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: to see him posting coming over.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 4: But he.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of question marks I have with Sasaki.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: Are they gonna go with a six man rotation? They're
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: really deep?
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 3: Is he there? Are they gonna let him go past
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 3: the fifth inning?
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 2: Like this is a prized arm that they are going
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: to nurture and try to make sure they get the
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 2: most out of it.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 3: And so they're not going to push him. They're not
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 3: gonna rush him that could do us. They don't need to.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 3: And if you looked at what he was doing over.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: In Japan, like he actually struggled relatively for rookie Sasaki
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: last year and even the year prior compared to where
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: he had been. So I still think there's kind of
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: some some growth to be had there. And like I said,
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: I just don't think that I think they're gonna baby him.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: I think they're gonna pitch him every sixth day type
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: of thing. And then you look where he's going. He's
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: going off the boards as the twentieth starting pitcher at
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: this point. And we're talking about guys like Bryce Miller,
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: Bailey over Spencer schwalenback Hunter Green Tanner by Max Freed,
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: like I'm probably taking the majority of those guys over
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: Rookie Susaki.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 3: And I'm not saying this necessarily a talent thing. I'm
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 3: just saying the situation.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: I think the Dodgers are going to be much more
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 2: cautious with him, and so you're not going to get
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: the counting stats that you need getting guys going deep
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: into a ballgame. Like I said, I look right, you
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: know about eight picks after him, like a Bailey Oper,
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 2: who is a guy I absolutely love, Like that's a
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: guy that can, is a bulldog and we'll get you
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 2: innings and get and is not gonna blow up on you,
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: get your strikeouts, not gonna get you maybe the wins,
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 2: and so maybe in a in a rotal league, there's
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: a little difference there because Rookie is gonna be up
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 2: ten runs every time he leaves the ball game. But
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: I think that there is probably too much helium with them,
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: and I think it's going to keep keep going up
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: the price. At this point, I'm still actually surprised that
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 2: he's not yet past Shota or Pablo Lopez in or
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 2: fran Ra Valdez in the ADP. I think he probably will,
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: which is just gonna be another reason where I'm going
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 2: to stay away from. Doesn't mean I don't believe in
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 2: the long term. I think this year they're gonna kind
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 2: of probably uh cap is innings capus potential.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's fair, and just given some of
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: the reports that we've seen recently on Sasaki's elbow health,
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: it is a rich price to be paying.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I would much rather invest next year if he's
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 4: healthy then this year. And like you mentioned, Mike, like
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 4: one of the conditions in him picking a team was
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 4: could they figure out why he lost two miles an
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 4: hour on his fastball last year and you know, how
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 4: to fix his arm. So that's a pretty big red
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 4: flag for going you know, the twentieth starting.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 3: Pitcher off the board or whatever it was.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was the Dodgers presentation. Just doctor Neil Atrasha. Okay,
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: my cell here. This makes me sad, But it's Freddie Freeman.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: He's going off the board is like the twenty fourth
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: pick right now, and he's entering his age thirty five season,
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: coming on off of that end of the year where
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: obviously he just like totally shredded his ankle and played
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: through it and won the World Series MVP was great.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: But when you're grinding day in, day out for one
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: hundred and sixty two games on that he did have
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: the off season surgery, I'm just worried of like where
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: this could kind of all lead. I don't want to
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: be stuck holding the bag here on Freeman. And so
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: especially where you're looking at like the players that are
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: going around him, you know you've got you know, Bryce Harper,
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: Jared Duran, Trey Turner, Jazz Chisholm, Ronald Lacunya, Jackson Merrill,
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: like all these guys have such a huge, huge ceiling.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: I don't know if the ceiling is there for Freddy anymore.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: That the hard hit rate has been in the forty
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: one percent level now for two years, I don't think
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: that the Homers are going to get beyond like the
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: mid twenties spot and if you're just going by raw
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: projections of dollar values, I do not see Freddie Freeman
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: getting eleven bags next year, which is where he's projected
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: for in pretty much all of the systems right now,
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: as they're still factoring in what he did in twenty
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: twenty three. And on top of it, I just the
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: other nice floor with Freeman was that batting average that
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: you know, it was always locked in pretty much for
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: three hundred and then you had the upside of like
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: a three twenty three thirty. I just don't know if
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: it's there for Freddy Freeman. So uh it, Like I said,
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: it pains me because I love the dude, easy Hall
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: of Famer, but this is just not a profile that's
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: trending in the correct direction for me.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's one of those I actually look
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 2: at that part of the draft and there's like almost
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 2: all the hitters in that like probably you know, second
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: third round. Like there's just so many question marks there
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 2: that that I'm almost scared to touch touch many of them,
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 2: like the guys you mentioned to, like all of them
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 2: have have some level of concern. I got a slightly
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 2: more hope with with Freeman. But I do feel like
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 2: we're getting like Paul goldgmin Terar here where it's just
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: like like I'm hoping because he went to you know,
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 2: drive line or something that's it's gonna be there. And
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 2: I think Freddy's not falling that far off. I think
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: still there's still some.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 3: Some of the tank.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: But I think you're right like twenty fourth overall, like
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: that's it's it's just starting now to get on the border.
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: It's considering that that speed is the thing that's always
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 2: been able to help him. The extra little extra speed
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: that you kick in at the first base category with
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 2: that three hundred average was such a booie uh to
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 2: to your team, and now that he's that that might.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 3: Be in a question. I I I'm not completely opposed.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 2: I probably will still draft Freeman here and there if
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 2: I if I think he's gonna drop down to like
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: third fourth round value, but definitely a guy that I
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 2: think that the warning signs are out for and one
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 2: of these one of these years, is gonna gonna drop
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 2: off drastically.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm actually pretty confident in a bounce back this year.
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 4: I just don't think the value is there where he's
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 4: being picked, so like, like you just said, like I
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 4: would rat Like if it's a round or two later,
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 4: I would definitely grab him there because I do have
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 4: faith in that bounce back, But like, you're not getting
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 4: any kind of a discount right now, and I would
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 4: rather go for the upside than take on that risk,
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 4: even if I think he's going.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 3: To bounce back.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's that's fair. Okay, who is your
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: pick to click here from the prospect side, Taylor, I'm.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 4: Willing with Joe Andrey Vargas. So this is a really
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 4: stack system and I feel like this guy just kind
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 4: of gets lost in the crowd. A nineteen year old
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 4: shortstop six four one hundred and seventy five pounds, had
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 4: a great DSL season in twenty twenty three, followed that
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 4: up with an excellent complex season this year, or I
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 4: should say last year in twenty twenty four, showed good power,
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 4: solid hit tool, a billy to chip in some steals,
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 4: and I think it's gonna be really fun to see
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 4: what he does in full season ball this year. And again,
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 4: like he you have the Dalton var show. I'm sorry,
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 4: Dalton Rushing, not Var show. Emil Morales, Josea Paula as
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 4: your hope. Like you got all these guys who just
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 4: kind of overshadow him, even Edward Taro, and he's just
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 4: kind of like the next guy down and kind of
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 4: forgotten about. But I think he could really make a
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 4: name for himself next year in full season.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm totally on board. I think this is guy.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: He was one of my considerations, and I think he's
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: gonna really pop on prospects lists going into twenty twenty
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: five as he kind of comes into more full season ball,
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: just gets more eyeballs on him. I great pick.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: Brew who's here? Pick to click on the Dodgers Tyler
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 2: Just Tyler Taylor. Sorry, Taylor Taylor just mentioned, just mentioned him,
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 2: And I'm gonna have to call out probably what obvious
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 2: one in xior Hope here. He was absolutely crushing it
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 2: in the Fall League. And if you look at the
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 2: stat line, it doesn't look actually that impressive until you
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 2: remember the kid.
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 3: Is nineteen when when he was doing this, and you
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 3: know what he what he did in the.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 2: Miners last year a single a as a nineteen year old,
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 2: fifty four games, nine home wers, two eighty seven hours,
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 2: still eight bags, and there's this is a guy that
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 2: looks like there's just a lot more in the tank.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 2: He's still just like developing truly as a ballplayer, and
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: that's the fact that he's been able to do what
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 2: he can at the age as I think they're going
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 2: to push him into.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 3: Double A this year and he's going to continue to grow.
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 2: He's probably at this point now the prospect's list are
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 2: starting to come out, like the little that ability to
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: buy him is going to start to disappear. But I
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 2: think he is going to continue to have a little
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 2: bit more helium on list and jump up the next
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 2: maybe a year from now, we're talking probably a top
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: you know, thirty prospect and Taylor, I'd be curious where
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 2: you would be projecting him a year from now because
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 2: I think there's gonna be a lot of helium with
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 2: without your hope.
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I just updated my prospect drank. I think I
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 4: had him around forty, so you're not far off. But
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 4: I call him out your hype because depending on you know,
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 4: who you talk to, Like I just saw him go
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 4: I think around like twelfth overall in a prospect draft.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 4: So like granted the guy's name was like Dodgers theme,
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 4: so it was clearly a Dodgers homer, but like still
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 4: like and like I was like, Okay, that's really aggressive,
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 4: but like maybe not that crazy because this guy has
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 4: really really loud tools. You know that the ceiling is
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 4: extremely high. He's in obviously a great development organization with
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 4: the Dodgers, and yeah, I think the hype is just
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 4: going to continue to go up with him.
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, I agree. I love him. And
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: if there are any Cubs fans out there listening, you
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: might want to cover your ears here because I'm taking
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: the other part of that Michael Bush trade. I'm going
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: with Jackson Ferris here as my pic to click in
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: the Dodgers system. You can see it right on his
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 1: fangrass page. Just smacks you right in the face. Forty
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: plus future value and you this is one of those
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: where you're just like, oh, I'm reading it and like,
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: how does it all come together? And you're like fifty
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: future fastball, sixty future slider, fifty five future curveball, fifty
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: future change up, great arsenal, But then the command isn't
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: quite there. Would the Dodgers do this year? They kind
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: of fixed a little bit that command. He cut down
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: the k rate in High A and Double A. You know,
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: it was in the fives with the Cubs. In twenty
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: twenty three, the Dodgers brought back down into the fours,
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: still kept the k rate at pretty solid, you know,
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: struck out ten point three per nine across one hundred
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: and twenty six and two thirds total innings in the miners.
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: I think this is the next Dodgers kind of rising
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: star pitching prospect that he's going to be going in
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: his age twenty one season, should be opening in Double A,
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: and that's within shouting distance of the major leagues. Kind
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: of going back to our ten step discussion, because if
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: he's ready to go, the Dodgers can bring him up
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: when they've got the rotation spot. And I think this
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: is a guy who's got a great ground ball rate
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: and has just really got all of the foundational tools.
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: It was a great pick by the Cubs, but they
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: just didn't, I don't think had the tools to be
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: able to develop them the way the Dodgers are. So
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 1: I think Ferris will be a great pick to kind
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: of rise up boards going into twenty twenty five.
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I completely love that call it. I think he's
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 4: the best arm in that system right now. And granted,
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 4: like the Dodgers don't have as stacked arms as they
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 4: usually do, but I think he was a steal from
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 4: the Cubs there, unfortunately for you. And yeah, I think
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 4: he's he's got the really bright future ahead of him.
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry Cubs fans. All Right, We're going to move
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: on to the San Diego Padres. Now, who this is
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: a team that made the playoffs last year. This is
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: I don't think I've seen a team built like this
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: in quite some time. I was looking at their depth
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: as we were getting into, you know, the analysis here
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: for this discussion. This is a super thin team from
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 1: not only like the major league level, but the minor
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: league level has been totally gutted from all the AJ
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: Preler trades over the past few years. So this does
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: have a feeling of like getting the band back together
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: one more time, because I don't I don't know how
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: this is really going to be sustainable for the Padres
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: going forward. Obviously they have some big prospects coming through
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: in Ethan Sallas and Leo Dallas Devrees, but unfortunately they
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 1: can't occupy all twenty six roster spots at the same time.
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: Between the two of them. So with that lead in Taylor,
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: who is your buye here? For the San Diego padres.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 4: Well, I figured I went with a bunch of young
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 4: players who didn't have starting roles, so I had to
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 4: switch it up and go with a veteran player who
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 4: is locked into a starting role. In that's Sander Bogarts.
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 4: I wish he was going coming at more of a discount.
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 4: He's got ADP right now of one forty five. I
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 4: seem to be collecting him in all my drafts this offseason,
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 4: both Dynasty and Redraft, so I had to kind of
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 4: speak to why I like him. I think, you know,
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 4: the names that are going around him are fine. If
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 4: you I would personally take him over like a Luis
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 4: Ringifo or even a Bryce Terraang just because I have
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 4: more faith in the playing time and the ability that
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 4: he's going to show versus the upside of those other guys.
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 4: But you know, you look at his last season. Power
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 4: really fell off last year, but it was mostly front loaded,
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 4: and you got to remember, like when I'm doing my analysis,
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 4: I'm also trying to remember that these are human beings,
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 4: right Like they're going through real life issues. They're not
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 4: always at the top of their game. Xander Bogart's, after
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 4: being a shortstop forever, had to start playing second base,
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 4: and so he really struggled to start out the year,
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 4: and I think that was a big part of it
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 4: because he was learning this new position. He had to
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 4: deal with the ego hit of being told like, hey,
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 4: you're not good enough for short stop anymore, you got
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 4: to go to second base. And then he hurt his shoulder.
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 4: But once he came back from the shoulder injury, he
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 4: actually looked a lot better. In his last sixty four games,
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 4: he hit two ninety nine with seven home runs and
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 4: nine stolen bases, had a higher average exit velocity last year,
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 4: lower ground ball rate, higher pole rate. He also had
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 4: his lowest Babbitt since twenty fourteen, so I think that
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 4: was a big reason why, you know, the surface numbers
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 4: weren't that good. Still just thirty two years old. I
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 4: think he can hit between fifteen and twenty home runs,
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 4: get you fifty to twenty stolen bases, and gets you
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 4: a really good average, and he's going to be in
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 4: that lineup every day that he's healthy. He's going to
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 4: be great compiler. He's got that dual position eligibility at
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 4: second and short. There's a lot to like with him,
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 4: and I feel like he's kind of unfairly maligned for
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 4: one kind of weird season.
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's interesting that like he and I
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 2: think it was happened last year too. He's like the
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 2: best middle infielder on a fantasy team. Like you just
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 2: seem like you end up with him in that spot
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 2: and you're like absolutely thrilled because you're right, Like I
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 2: look at him and like, it's how does he not
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 2: go fifteen fifteen, hit two seventy, like as a floor
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 2: and like if you have that as your middle infielder,
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 2: you should be ecstatic, Like you just lock them, don't
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 2: worry about it, and deal with it later type of thing.
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 2: But he could do more because he is very, very talented.
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 2: So I think it's a great call. I think I
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 2: think Bogart's has has more left in the tank for sure.
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 2: He's I mean, guys only going to his you know,
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 2: thirty two year old season, so there's still a ton
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 2: ton left for him. I just think, you know, moving
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 2: out of Boston where you don't have that big light
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 2: where everybody's like he's gonna be there is thing like
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 2: it seems like moving to San Diego is just like
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 2: dim into the light of Lexander Bogarts. But he's still
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 2: the same guy he still has been.
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's a great pick, and you nailed it, Jeremy.
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: In terms of like the floor, the problem I'm having
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: with a lot of those second basemen that kind of
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 1: go in that second wave along with Xander Bogarts is
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 1: the floor is all the way down like into like
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: the middle of the earth on some of those guys
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: that some of them just might not get jobs at
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: the end of the day. And so at least with Xander,
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: like you've got a solid floor to build from, and
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: then he's been a star build on top of that.
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 1: Brew who's your pick here for the for the buye
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: on the padres.
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So I think let's let's stick with veterans. I'm
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 2: going with Michael King in that rotation there. I look
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 2: at it and I look at the guys going in
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 2: the same area. I mean, he is going as a
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 2: top twenty pitcher, but you you look at the guys
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 2: in that area and like he is just so solid.
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 2: It's it's been three years now that he's put up
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 2: basically the same exact stat line. I get there's a
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 2: little abbreviation in some of those with the Yankees because
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 2: they just don't know what to do with starting pictures
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 2: at times. But like he always is striking out roughly
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 2: eleven guys per nine. He's basically in the high two
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 2: s walk range. He's putting the ball on the ground
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 2: like the ray is between two to three to two nine.
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 2: Like he's just been solid as I'll get out and
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 2: he can go deep into games. Like that's what you
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 2: want in a in a picture. And I look at
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 2: the guys going in the early rounds as pictures, and
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 2: I'm sitting here going like I got questions on a
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 2: lot of these these guys, like clearly, like I'm gonna
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 2: ignore the top few of them, but like Crochet you
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 2: got question marks, Corbyn Burns, you definitely have question marks.
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 2: Jacob deGrom, there's clearly gonna be the question marks there,
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 2: Dylan c Splake Snell, you know, yamo to you go
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 2: through all these Garrett Cole, they all have like is
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 2: which guy's gonna show up? And then you have Michael King,
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, I have zoo real question marks for
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 2: Michael King. Is can he do what a Blake Snell
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 2: can at Blake Snell's best? No, But will I drop
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 2: Blake Snell midway through the season because I'm just completely
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 2: fed up with him I did last year like absolutely, well,
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 2: I'm still yeah, I'm still better. And so I look
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 2: at Michael King of like maybe one of the first
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 2: starting pitchers I want on my team off of the board,
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 2: and I'm willing to actually pay a little bit more
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 2: for them where he's going right now, even if I
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 2: have to, you know, dip into maybe the fourth fifth
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 2: round type of type of type of range to be
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 2: having having that stability as my number one. I actually
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 2: actually love him as number one versus almost all those
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 2: other guys.
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 2: So that's probably when I start dipping into the starting
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 2: pitching pool, just because of the reliability that I that
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 2: I see, and hey, he he actually had kind of
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 2: almost say a down year last year. Ve lost, he
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 2: was down, think things were like that's things that he
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 2: can work on. He's he's still a relatively you know,
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 2: compared to myself, young guy. He'll he'll be uh twenty
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 2: nine entering the season. He'll turn thirty early in the year.
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 2: There's still a ton left in this tank, and there's
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 2: a big tank in that sixty three to two ten frame.
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and he held up over one hundred and seventy
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 1: three and two thirds innings last year, so I mean
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: that was always the biggest question mark. I like this one.
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I like it too. My one concern with them
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 4: is just the innings jump, Like going from one hundred
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 4: and four one hundred and seventy three is a pretty
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 4: big jump. But like you mentioned, all the guys going
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 4: around him have their own like questions. So from a
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 4: performance standpoint, I have zero questions. I think he's a stud.
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 3: Yep, right cool.
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: My buy so might BUYE, and my pick to click
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: honestly could be interchanged a little bit, but I'm gonna
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 1: stick my my first buy here. It's gonna be Terso
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 1: or Nalos. So I think he's gonna get this left
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 1: field job that I think that Preller's almost kind of
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: like stuck. I don't think that there's any more money
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: coming from the ownership group, especially with the you know,
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: squabbles that they've been having between Peter Sidler's widowed wife
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 1: and then like the rest of like the brothers and
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 1: stuff there, that it just seems like a mess that
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 1: no more money is gonna be flowing through to be
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: added to this team. So I think Ornellis is gonna
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: be opening the season as a strong side platoon in
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 1: left field, and I think he can hold it down.
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: That this is a guy who in Triple A last
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: year was extremely solid with a one thirteen WRC plus
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 1: pop twenty three homers. He has at least average grades
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: across the board on all of his tools on fangrafts
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 1: from Eric Longenhagen, great approach at the plate, doesn't strike
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 1: out too much. This is just kind of like the
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 1: boring fourth or fifth outfielder in your lineup where you
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 1: look up at the end of the year and he's
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: got eighteen ish homers with like seventy ish runs and
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: RBIs and has hit like two fifties, just like a
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 1: total league average dude. But like where he's going in drafts,
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 1: it's an sleep boon for him. Let me look it up.
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: It is super late right now. And the other reason
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 1: he popped is that on like the per game UH
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 1: player Raider, like he is a positive value in fifteen
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 1: teamers right now in our ras ball going average pick
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 1: ADP of six ninety and draft champions, so absolutely free.
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 1: I'm falling in love with Ernealos the more and more
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 1: I dig into his profile.
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 2: I love this, Okay, I think the only thing I
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 2: would say with Ornelis is like, and this is the
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 2: worst comp in the world. I've been owned this Chris
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 2: Davis of the Oakland Athletics.
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: It's fine because for six ninety.
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 2: Because he hits the same average every year, Like you
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 2: go back and look at his history, whether the miners,
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 2: whether you know, at double A, triple A, doesn't matter
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 2: what year the guy hits. Basically two eighty five to
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 2: two eighty eight, he's the exact same thing. And so
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 2: I think that's like that doesn't exist in our game,
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 2: that kind of reliability at that point in the draft.
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 2: So I think it's really intriguing that he can come
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 2: up there and there's a guy I'll talk about later
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 2: that I think plays in the same ball game, and
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 2: those guys just get forgotten, and he's clearly forgotten.
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 3: I don't know what. I'm not gonna do the math
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 3: on what round that is? Six point fifty.
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 4: I mean, he's he I wroughte him up last year
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 4: because I do like a pickups article and He's been
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 4: in the minors forever, like just forever, just toiling away
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 4: at the bottom of prospect list, and finally last year
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 4: it seemed to all click for him at Triple A.
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 4: You know, you mentioned the low batting average he's got,
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 4: like the two ninety eight average last year. I'm looking
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 4: at his his Triple A stat cast right now, like
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 4: the EV's were really good, seventy six percentile ninetieth percentile
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 4: x velocity. The contact was really good, eighty ninth percentile
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 4: zone contact. He pulls the ball really well, he pulls
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 4: fly balls really well. So he'll get the most out
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 4: of his power. I know, like Fangrafts gave him a
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 4: forty five game power. I think he can play upwards
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 4: of you know, fifty to fifty five. I think he
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 4: can hit twenty five home runs. It's just a matter
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 4: of are they going to give a guy who's kind
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 4: of at this point off prospect radars that much run?
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 4: But like you mentioned, they're not spending money, so they're
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 4: either gonna have to trade like a Dylan Ceas and
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 4: bringing talent, or they got to go with what they have.
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 4: And this is a very thin system, particularly at the
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 4: higher end. You know they have some superstars there, but
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 4: they're not big league ready. And I could definitely see
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 4: Ornella's getting some run and I can see him performing
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 4: really well. And like you mentioned, he's so far down
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 4: the list in drafts, he's just an afterthought.
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 1: All right, let's go on to ourselves here for the
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 1: Padres Taylor, who you got for yourself?
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm going with another veteran here in Jake Croninworth. Again,
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 4: he's going to be in that lineup every day because
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 4: he signed until the end of time. I don't know
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 4: why they gave him a contract extension to like twenty thirty,
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 4: but they did. But at two seventy seven ADP and
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 4: there's just so many guys going after him, I would
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 4: rather have even with that dual eligibility, he can play
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 4: first base second base, but at first base, I'd much
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 4: rather have Tyler Sotostrom, even like Andrew Vaughn Luke Rayley
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 4: at second base. I'd rather take a shot on Christian Campbell,
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 4: who could win that opening day job, or even like
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 4: a Tyrostrata or even a Nolan Gorman. That's how little
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 4: faith I have in Jake Croninworth, because the thing about
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 4: Jake Croninworth is that he's not gonna steel bases. He might.
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 4: You're hoping for fifteen home runs over a full season's
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 4: worth of plate appearances. He's gonna have a pretty mediocre
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 4: to bad batting average. So yeah, he's gonna get volume,
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 4: but that volume is gonna hurt you in the ratios,
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 4: and he's not really providing anything else above that. I
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 4: just don't see why he's going that high in drafts.
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, it's so boring, like there's just like
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: no other level here. As we've seen with Jake Croninworth,
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: it's like a two thirty batting average, two thirty five
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 1: batting average, mid teens homers and just playing time that. Yeah,
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 1: I agree. When you're that point in the draft, I
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 1: want to try to roll the dice a little bit
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 1: more before I'm trying to dip into a Jake cronin
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 1: Worth type pool. All right, Brew, who is your cell
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 1: here for the Padres?
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 2: So if you listen to this podcast, you know exactly
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 2: who I'm going to sell. Cool, you know who I'm
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 2: going to sell, and it's very easy. Yeah, it's Louis
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 2: Arias I sell. Louis Aria's literally every chance I get.
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 2: There are some guys that, like, there's very few guys
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 2: in the majors that I will not like ever consider drafting.
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 2: And I will literally never draft Louis Ariah's. I don't
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 2: care if it's ADP is one seventy one, I don't
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 2: care if it's five hundred. I'm not drafting Louise Ariah's.
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 2: That is such a one trick pony. And I've one
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 2: point in my early years of looking at fantasy baseball
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 2: always look I like to go across and rate players
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 2: on each category from a roto perspective of two plus
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 2: one plus ridge minus two minus. Luis Arias is like
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 2: minus minus in like four categories. Maybe runs, I'll give
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 2: you that, he's like maybe average there, and then he's
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 2: got a plus in one category. Like he literally hurts
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 2: you so much in every category that you have to
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 2: overcome that with all the rest of your roster. And
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 2: you're only doing that because you're hoping for a three
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 2: fifteen average and that's all you're looking for, and that's
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 2: you're paying up so significantly from that, So like what
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 2: it just it ruins your team, Like there's no point
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 2: in drafting Louis Aria's at any point in the time.
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 2: So Taylor, I'm sorry if you like Louis Riah's, but
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 2: I do not. I do not like Louis Riah's. I
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 2: will never play that ballgame. I hope Louis Arias is
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 2: not listening to this. But it's literally like there there's
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 2: a do not draft list and there's like five guys
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 2: on it, and Loose Arias is like driving that bandwagon.
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 4: I couldn't agree more. Don't don't put that voodo on me.
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 4: I don't want anything to do with Louise Rias.
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 1: Yes, and I agree to that. When it was like
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 1: a three thirty three forty bang aarage, I could talk
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 1: myself into it. But if it's just gonna be like
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 1: a three ten uh huh, Like it doesn't make up
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 1: for the rest of the flaws enough.
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 2: I like the projections like he's gonna hit ten homers
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 2: from Steamer from like, no, he's not, Like I don't
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 2: know what you're talking about. Louserizesna, he's done that once
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 2: in his career and he got lucky. Uh losrized like
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 2: my over under is like six homers, and I feel
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 2: like that's being.
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 1: Generous, all right, my cell here, I'm actually I'm selling
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 1: a first rounder here too. I'm selling Fernando Tattoos Junior.
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 1: I can't do it. It's not enough volume going into
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 1: the first round where like especially, I mean he's going
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 1: ninth right now, that low min pick a four, which
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 1: blows my mind. I don't know who was picking like
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 1: fourth pick Fernaito test You Junior. But at that point
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 1: that price level, I need all the volume I can get,
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 1: and I don't think Fernando test Junior can do it,
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 1: like the way that he plays. And you've kind of
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 1: brought this up over the years, grew with like Bryce
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 1: Harper and you know other guys who just play all out.
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 1: Tatis is right in that boat that, Like, I just
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 1: don't see how you can pencil in enough volume for
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 1: him to for it to all work out that like
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 1: all the projections have him around like one hundred and
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 1: fifty games all career highs. It would be an all
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 1: career high. Like it's just last year, especially too with
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 1: the the thigh injury in terms of like whatever the
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 1: stress reaction is, the shoulder injury, the he's had a
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 1: side injury, Like it's everything that's going on and I
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 1: love the player great if you're obviously, like if you're
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 1: in a supershallow league like an eight teamer ten teamer,
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 1: and you can use il spots, he becomes more valuable.
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 1: But in the type of leagues that we're playing in,
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 1: they're super deep, or they're draft and holds just I
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 1: don't want any part of for Nino Tattoos Junior because
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 1: you can't find enough replacement level production to make up
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 1: for those forty games he's going to miss for you.
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're sorry. We've talked about this on the podcast before.
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 2: There's a certain type of player in the major leagues,
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 2: in all of baseball that they're not injury prone. It's
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 2: just how they play the game, and they will at
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 2: some point be hurt. And you know, fun trivia for
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 2: listeners of the show. Cooley and I like to every
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 2: once in a while reminisce about the playing days. And
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 2: I happen to have played a decent amount of baseball
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 2: back in the day, and I was one of those players.
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 2: I was always hurt for some reason, and it's just
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 2: the way you play. Happened to at least one point
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 2: in time, be a top three in the state I
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 2: live in. Hit by Pitch Leader for a single season.
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 2: Not something to be proud of, but hey, a little
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 2: known facts and the only way you get on the scoreboards.
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 3: But like, when you play that.
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 2: Game like that, it's going to drag you down, like
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 2: it's going to and it's not. It doesn't always show
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 2: up in the games played. Sometimes it shows up underneath
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 2: because the production drops by seventy eight percent because you
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 2: got through things, you you continue to play when you shouldn't.
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 2: And I think that's what Tatis ends up doing. And
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 2: that's where you see It's like, man, this guy is
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 2: a thirty thirty player and then he gets you know,
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 2: seven percent of the games and fifty percent of the stats,
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 2: like yeah, because he's he's struggling through injury. And that's
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 2: almost worse from a fancy perspective when you get a
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 2: guys that you know, partial production, uh, and you're expecting
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 2: full production because you can't bench him because you paid
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 2: so much for him. So I'm right there with you, Tatis.
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 2: H give me well, third round, maybe fourth before I'd
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 2: even consider him.
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 1: What do you think, Taylor is it? Is it too
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 1: rich for your blood?
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 4: I love tattoos. I live in San Diego like fifteen
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 4: minutes away from Peco, so I go see a lot
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 4: of pottery games. He's such a fun player. But yeah,
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 4: that's way too high for me. I would even take
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 4: like you know, you mentioned the risk with like a
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 4: Corbyn Carrol or even like a Julio. I would take
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 4: those guys over him. I just we are at least
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 4: going to give you that volume, right, They're going to provide,
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 4: you know, some really good floor. It might not be
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 4: the ceiling you're hoping for, but Katis, you just don't
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 4: know what you're gonna get out of him.
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's move on to those prospect picks. To click Taylor,
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 1: who you got?
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 4: I'm going with another recent draft ye first year player
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 4: draft pick in Cobb high Tower. Like I mentioned, this
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 4: is a weaker system now outside of like the really
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 4: high end guys, and so this is kind of a
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 4: sneaky FIPD pick. Six foot one eighty right handed hitting
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 4: shortstop was a third round pick signed away from a
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 4: unc commitment. Good hit tool, good power, good speed, so
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 4: kind of that across the board type didn't really have
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 4: a lot of fanfare coming out of the draft, but
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 4: reports are particularly from Baseball America, they did a good
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 4: job of kind of covering the Ridge League. So this
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 4: year the Complex schedule got moved up, so a lot
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 4: of the players we would normally see play that Complex,
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 4: they didn't play in any kind of recorded games they
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 4: played at this Bridge League, so you couldn't see their
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 4: stats or anything. But apparently he was like raved about
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 4: during the Bridge League. Looks like, you know, the tools
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 4: were a lot louder than what was originally thought. So
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 4: those are the kind of guys that you want to
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 4: jump in on early before you know people can really
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 4: catch on. Like he doesn't have a fangraft page that
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 4: he didn't play in any you know, recorded games last year,
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 4: but the reports are there. The one thing I will
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 4: say is he was older for a high school graduate,
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 4: nineteen years old, but that also means he's gonna move
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 4: pretty quickly. The Padres have shown no reservations about pushing
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 4: their players super aggressively. I mean, they have seventeen year
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 4: olds playing in the you know, in like double A,
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 4: so I think in nineteen year old they're going to
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 4: push him prety quickly because they're really thin at the
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 4: top of their at their the top of their farm.
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 4: And I think Cobb high Tower is a name that
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 4: could really skyrocket.
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 1: Excellent pick. Yeah, I add him to the list of
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 1: all of my Dynasty watch lists that you have populated
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 1: for me. So I appreciate Taylor brew here's your pick
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 1: to click here in San Diego.
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, I hate going after Taylor at this point
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 2: because because he has like analysis and great things, and
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 2: I'm just sitting here going like, do you remember the
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 2: Dallas Devrees, Like like, I mean, but we have to
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 2: talk about it.
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 3: We have to talk about the guy that you know,
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 3: was seventeen.
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 2: Year olds in the Arizona Fall League and making noise
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 2: and he just looks like a you know, absolute beast.
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 2: So I think you can't talk about him because I
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 2: think he's still at this point in time, it's still
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 2: like for a lot of people, he's still so far
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 2: away conceptually. Now, I don't think he's actually that far away.
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 3: I think he actually can to hold his own.
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 2: He's one of those kind of players that you shouldn't
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 2: be shocked if you're talking about him in his teenage
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 2: years of trying to get to the majors. I don't
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 2: think he'll quite get there, But I think he's one
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 2: of those that has an unbelievable you know kind of power,
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 2: has a decent hit tool, and I think he's just
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 2: gonna get get to get better. And like I said,
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 2: the fact that the Padres are willing to send him
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 2: to Fall League and put him up against that older competition,
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 2: he was facing guys who were seven eight years older
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 2: than him, Like, he's unbelievable. And so the fact I
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 2: think he you know, his stat line again doesn't look
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 2: good kind of like Zyger Hope, like doesn't look like
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 2: good on the surface, But the way that he was
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 2: able to handle himself to the learnings he had, I
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 2: think there's a lot of a lot of helium here.
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 2: And you know, whether he sticks at short or or
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 2: moves off, I probably I'm guessing he moves off long term.
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 2: But there he bat's gonna play anywhere. So uh again,
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 2: it's a it's a it's a cop out. I fully
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 2: own that, but I'm I'm absolutely also okay with it.
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah I love him. Oh go ahead, Yeah, I love
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 1: him too. So I mean you're the prospect guy, like
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 1: where is he? Is he top five number one for you?
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 4: Or I have him at ninth? Okay, I think you
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 4: can put him if you wanted to be aggressive with him.
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 4: You could definitely put him in the top five. Like
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 4: there really isn't a consensus. I mean outside of maybe
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 4: Rokie if you count him as a prospect, there really
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 4: isn't a consensus number one prospect. And I think you
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 4: can make the case he is the top prospect just
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 4: based off of ceiling. Personally, I want to see a
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 4: guy perform in the high minors before I kind of
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 4: boost him that high. But like, this is as high
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 4: as I will ever rank a seventeen year old because
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 4: he's just that good. I mean, the top talent coming,
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 4: you know, out of the international class last year. The
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 4: Padres are super aggressive. They send him straight to Single A.
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 4: These guys usually go play a year in the DSL,
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 4: then they come Stateside, play a year in complex, and
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 4: then they do full season ball in their third season.
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 4: The Padres are like, nope, we'll just throw him straight
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 4: in full season ball. And he was an above average hitter,
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 4: showed everything you want to see, Like, yeah, the batting
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 4: average was two thirty seven, but everything else was amazing.
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 4: And just if he had been right for the level,
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 4: he was way young for the little age wise, I think,
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 4: you know, we could see him in double A next year,
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 4: and he's gonna kind of be that guy, you know,
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 4: like Sebastian Walcott that you know. It's just people are
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 4: gonna have him. If they don't already, they're gonna have
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 4: him potentially as the number one prospect at the end
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 4: of next year. So I love that call out.
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 1: All right, well cool, where are you going? Yeah, my
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 1: pick to click. It was the the other guy that
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 1: was debating for my buy. It's the other guy when
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 1: you're right on the roster resource page for the Padres
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 1: and you're just like, what who is that? And you're
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 1: also like, oh, this guy is gonna play like every
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 1: day for the Padres. It's Aggie Rosario, the twenty five
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 1: year old. He thought it in at DH but I mean,
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 1: I think he'll get time spelling Manny Machado at third
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 1: base as well. And part of this is because, I
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 1: mean the draft price is pretty much free. He's his
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 1: average ADP and the NFBC Draft Champions is seven to
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 1: twenty six, so you're looking at he's got to be
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 1: one of the last starting position players is going in
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 1: all of drafts, period. And not only is like he
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 1: walking into a great situation here is San Diego. But
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 1: I think Rosario has got some really great upside and
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 1: he impacts the ball really great. The strikeouts are a
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 1: bit much, but like when you're talking that type of
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 1: draft price, somebody with like a two thirty average that
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 1: has the possibility of going fifteen to fifteen with you know,
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 1: I would say lower tier counting stats because he's gonna
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 1: bee at the bomb of this Padres lineup. But somebody
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 1: who can provide just that power speed combo this late
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 1: in a draft, I think it's all there for Eggie Rosario.
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 1: That I mean, all of the projections are going to
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 1: be way too low on him because they have him
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 1: as a part time player. But it kind of goes
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 1: back to what we're talking about with ourn Alas. I
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 1: just don't see who else is coming in here to
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 1: San Diego to fill this position that Rosario looks like
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 1: he's a shoe in for somewhere between like five hundred
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 1: to five hundred and fifty played appearances for the Padres
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five.
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been I almost actually call.
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what we.
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 2: Still we all agree, Well, we all agree I almost
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 2: I almost went there as well.
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 3: So Taylor, go ahead.
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 4: I always went there as well. Yeah, I've been a
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 4: fan of his for a long time. He just needs
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 4: a shot. It looks like he might finally get one
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 4: this year.
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, we are a bunch of eggy heads here. Last,
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 1: but not least, we're moving on to your team, Taylor.
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 1: Here the San Francisco Giants, who brought in your boy
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 1: Puster Posey to take over this team, and it has
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 1: been an interesting offseason as they went out and find
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 1: somebody to take all their money and Willie Domas who
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 1: should slot in as their starting shortstop and number two hitter.
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 1: You also have Justin Verlander, the grizzled Vet coming in.
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 1: But lots of kind of interesting battles going into spring
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 1: here across the board as a lot of the kind
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 1: of old Farahans Aedi platoon matchups kind of got to
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 1: get sorted out over the year. And I think lots
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 1: of opportunities there, lots of interesting prospects and former prospects,
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 1: and so lots of buying opportunities here, I think on
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 1: the Giants. But who is your favorite buy for your
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 1: San Francisco Giants?
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you mentioned it. There's a lot of buying opportunities here,
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 4: and maybe I'm just biased, but the one I'm going
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 4: with is another one that's not currently in the rotation
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 4: on roster resources, but Hayden birds Song going at a
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 4: three nine nine ADP right now. I just don't I
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 4: don't believe in Jordan Hicks as a starter long term.
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 4: I think he showed that last year. You know, he
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 4: scuffled after being kind of a hot start out of
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 4: the gate as the season wore on. And I don't
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 4: know what Kyle Harrison is anymore. You've got injury concerns
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 4: there with Robbie Ray, You've got Verlander at the very
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 4: end of his career. So I think bird Song could
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 4: win a job out of spring training if he can
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 4: show the control. And that's really the biggest issue with him,
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 4: because he has massive, massive strikeout upside eighty third percentile
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 4: k rate last year, eighty second percentile with rate. He's
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 4: got three different pitches with a whift rate over thirty
• 2:01:02
  Speaker 4: percent on his curveball, change up, and slider. All three
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 4: get fantastic stuff plus grades. You know, he's got a
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 4: ninety six mile an hour fastball. Again, the only issue
• 2:01:14
  Speaker 4: with him is just the command is terrible. He's never
• 2:01:17
  Speaker 4: had a walk rate under ten percent for any prolonged
• 2:01:20
  Speaker 4: stretch in the minors. And I do think though, with
• 2:01:23
  Speaker 4: these young pitchers, like they can improve the command. And
• 2:01:26
  Speaker 4: I think, particularly with all the weirdness that we've seen
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 4: in the minor leagues with them messing with the strike zone,
• 2:01:31
  Speaker 4: particularly at Triple A, We've seen so many pitchers when
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 4: they get from Triple A to the majors they actually
• 2:01:36
  Speaker 4: improve their walk rates because it's a different zone and
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 4: because they're getting better coaching in the majors than they
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 4: were in the minors. So I have faith that the
• 2:01:47
  Speaker 4: tools are strong enough, the stuff is strong enough that
• 2:01:49
  Speaker 4: he can figure it out. And he did finish the
• 2:01:51
  Speaker 4: season strong. He had a nine point eight percent walk rate,
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 4: a one point one whip over his last four starts.
• 2:01:57
  Speaker 4: And he's probably never going to be an ass a whip,
• 2:02:01
  Speaker 4: but particularly in that ballpark, I think he can have
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 4: a really good era. I think you can have a
• 2:02:05
  Speaker 4: lot of strikeouts and maybe be like sort of that
• 2:02:08
  Speaker 4: Robbie Ray type where yeah, you're not kind of want
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 4: him for whip, but he's gonna help you everywhere else.
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 1: I love this pick. This was actually my prospect pick
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 1: to click pride to my too Illinois a field that
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 1: Brew I'm pretty sure has played on and many times. Yeah,
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 1: great pit, the great frame, the six foot four frame.
• 2:02:27
  Speaker 1: This is also like the one of the reasons I
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 1: called out Verlander is I think this is the type
• 2:02:32
  Speaker 1: of player that when Verlander is in the bullpen, I
• 2:02:36
  Speaker 1: want Hayden bird Song sitting right next to Justin Verlander
• 2:02:39
  Speaker 1: the entire time picking his brain because I think all
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 1: of the tools from the arsenal just wicked, wicked change
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 1: up out of bird Song's hand along with just like
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 1: the the frame. Like I said, I think he's got
• 2:02:54
  Speaker 1: all the tools that, like the upside here is really
• 2:02:57
  Speaker 1: really tremendous. I love Hayden bird Song. What do you
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 1: think of Matune here?
• 2:03:05
  Speaker 3: Brew, Well, well, they're not going to go there. I'm
• 2:03:09
  Speaker 3: not gonna talk about Matoun.
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 2: The ball field is kind of questionable at the best
• 2:03:13
  Speaker 2: about an hour and a half from here. But you know,
• 2:03:16
  Speaker 2: it's hard hard to disagree there with with birds Song,
• 2:03:20
  Speaker 2: I tend to be a guy that shies away from
• 2:03:22
  Speaker 2: the guys that the control is a little bit questionable
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 2: in the upper Miners and bird Songs, I think he
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 2: can can figure it out. But that's like my one
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 2: red flag with him. A lot of other great things,
• 2:03:32
  Speaker 2: but like that that control. I mean, it's not on
• 2:03:34
  Speaker 2: the Kyle Harrison level by any means, because that's that's
• 2:03:38
  Speaker 2: one end of the spectrum for sure. Uh So that's
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 2: that's why it has me a little hesitation with bird Song.
• 2:03:43
  Speaker 2: But it to your point, like it's again that these
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 2: people are human. I think it was a great call, Taylor,
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 2: is that like these people are human and they learn
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 2: and they are just they improve and when you look
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 2: at the profile, like if that thing clicks, wow, what
• 2:04:00
  Speaker 2: could you have? And so I think that that's that's
• 2:04:02
  Speaker 2: it's attractive. I just I tend to steer away from
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 2: those guys. I just control as a thing that I
• 2:04:08
  Speaker 2: think you're born with versus your learn.
• 2:04:11
  Speaker 3: So all right, so for my by and.
• 2:04:15
  Speaker 2: I'm just scared to death to do in front of
• 2:04:17
  Speaker 2: Taylor see what he says. But I am going with
• 2:04:20
  Speaker 2: a reliever. I'm going with Ryan Walker for the fact
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 2: that he just looked filthy last year. He looked filthy
• 2:04:29
  Speaker 2: and then I started looking at the closers going off
• 2:04:31
  Speaker 2: the board again, think of standard Roto here and like
• 2:04:35
  Speaker 2: he is the last of the tier before it just
• 2:04:38
  Speaker 2: like starts to fall off a cliff of guys that
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 2: have like all kinds of questions and issues and things
• 2:04:42
  Speaker 2: that you just don't want to deal with. And I
• 2:04:44
  Speaker 2: started looking above him, and I'm like, I kind of
• 2:04:46
  Speaker 2: feel the same thing all the way up, like the
• 2:04:48
  Speaker 2: Ryan Helsley, Mason Miller.
• 2:04:49
  Speaker 3: Type of type of type of range.
• 2:04:51
  Speaker 2: And so that's but that's like fifty pick difference, Like
• 2:04:54
  Speaker 2: that's a pretty significant difference between those guys. And it
• 2:04:58
  Speaker 2: seems like Walker has the job literally has no reason
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 2: to give it back. And I almost put him kind
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 2: of as Tanner Scott type of comp that like he
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 2: did to kind of figure out his his pitch mix
• 2:05:13
  Speaker 2: a little bit better, like he his he made some
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 2: adjustments with his his his sinker and if you want
• 2:05:20
  Speaker 2: to call it, a sweeper slider, and he kind of
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 2: traded off his vertical movement for his horizontal movement and
• 2:05:25
  Speaker 2: that just seemed like unlock, uh the next layer for him,
• 2:05:29
  Speaker 2: And so I think he's gonna be absolutely dominant. I
• 2:05:33
  Speaker 2: also love the ballpark for him for many many reasons.
• 2:05:36
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 2:05:36
  Speaker 2: So I think Ryan Walker is gonna be great and
• 2:05:38
  Speaker 2: no offense. I think the Giant's gonna be a lot
• 2:05:40
  Speaker 2: of close games and so and so. If they can
• 2:05:43
  Speaker 2: make Camillo Daval a great closer for fantasy, imagine what
• 2:05:47
  Speaker 2: they can do with Ryan Walker. So, uh, he is
• 2:05:49
  Speaker 2: definitely a closure number one that I'm targeting. I'm missing
• 2:05:52
  Speaker 2: that first range and I'm going right after Ryan Walker
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 2: all day.
• 2:05:55
  Speaker 4: At that draft price, yeah, I mean I co signed
• 2:06:00
  Speaker 4: understood why, like his draft cost wasn't higher. Like I
• 2:06:05
  Speaker 4: know there's a belief that you know, Camilla Deval is
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 4: gonna come back and take over that role. But I'll
• 2:06:10
  Speaker 4: get to him in a minute.
• 2:06:13
  Speaker 1: At the next segment.
• 2:06:15
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean, for all the reasons you just
• 2:06:17
  Speaker 4: said he was amazing last year, he's got a lock
• 2:06:20
  Speaker 4: on that job. Like Bob Melvin's always been a one
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 4: closer guy. They're not going to miss mix a match
• 2:06:24
  Speaker 4: like He's gonna be the guy and barring like a
• 2:06:28
  Speaker 4: complete collapse, I don't see him giving up that role.
• 2:06:31
  Speaker 4: He has a lot more security than a lot of
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 4: the other you know names going ahead of him for closer.
• 2:06:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I got one, right, I'll take it there you go.
• 2:06:40
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, I'm feeling a little unsure about my
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 1: buye because you both kind of detegrated him. As we
• 2:06:46
  Speaker 1: were talking giants here, mine's actually Kyle Harrison who's going
• 2:06:49
  Speaker 1: off of the board at average pick of three sixty nine.
• 2:06:52
  Speaker 1: And mostly because I think this is a great buying opportunity,
• 2:06:55
  Speaker 1: because last year was a career high in innings for
• 2:07:00
  Speaker 1: Kyle Harrison with the one hundred and twenty four. Previously
• 2:07:04
  Speaker 1: his high was one thirteen back in twenty twenty two.
• 2:07:07
  Speaker 1: So you can see it pretty clearly in the splits
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 1: for Harrison that as the season went on, he just
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 1: wore down the FIP by month. As you're looking at it,
• 2:07:19
  Speaker 1: I just had it and scrolled away. Let me get
• 2:07:21
  Speaker 1: back fip for March April three eighty nine, May forty five,
• 2:07:26
  Speaker 1: June one eighty seven, July three fifty six, August five
• 2:07:29
  Speaker 1: eighty seven, September sixth ninety two. On top of it,
• 2:07:34
  Speaker 1: he also rolled his ankle there like around that July
• 2:07:38
  Speaker 1: ish time, and that caused a little bit of like
• 2:07:41
  Speaker 1: a change to his overall mechanics and led to a
• 2:07:46
  Speaker 1: little bit of a sore shoulder. So when Kyle Harrison
• 2:07:50
  Speaker 1: was on, it was humming during the middle of the season,
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 1: and so I think there is still a lot of
• 2:07:55
  Speaker 1: upside here because he's gone through the season of you know,
• 2:07:59
  Speaker 1: putting up one hundred in twenty four innings. You're hoping
• 2:08:02
  Speaker 1: that he can make the jump to like one hundred
• 2:08:03
  Speaker 1: and forty again going back to that. Justin Verlander, like
• 2:08:07
  Speaker 1: just other coach in the room, I think this could
• 2:08:10
  Speaker 1: be a year that I mean, Kyle Harrison's only going
• 2:08:12
  Speaker 1: to be turning into his twenty three age twenty three
• 2:08:14
  Speaker 1: season a lot. I mean, all the projections are great.
• 2:08:18
  Speaker 1: All of them have him around a four at RA
• 2:08:20
  Speaker 1: with nine k per nine, around a three point three
• 2:08:25
  Speaker 1: walk per nine. I think this could be a really
• 2:08:27
  Speaker 1: breakout season for Kyle Harrison.
• 2:08:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I want to agree with you.
• 2:08:34
  Speaker 3: I want to.
• 2:08:36
  Speaker 4: I just I don't know what Kyle Harrison is because
• 2:08:38
  Speaker 4: you look at it if the minors and if Brewer
• 2:08:40
  Speaker 4: talked about it, like he had the worst walk rates
• 2:08:42
  Speaker 4: his minor league career, but he struck out everyone, and
• 2:08:44
  Speaker 4: then he gets to the majors and like the k
• 2:08:46
  Speaker 4: rate just plummets, but then he's not walking anyone anymore,
• 2:08:49
  Speaker 4: and like the stuff is not what it was supposed
• 2:08:51
  Speaker 4: to be.
• 2:08:52
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 2:08:53
  Speaker 4: I've read some stories this offseason to your point, Mike,
• 2:08:56
  Speaker 4: like they're talking about, you know, Harrison has talked about,
• 2:09:00
  Speaker 4: and I think Buster's talked about they need to work
• 2:09:03
  Speaker 4: on his you know, off season regimen to get him
• 2:09:07
  Speaker 4: to be able to hold up over the course of
• 2:09:08
  Speaker 4: a year, and they believe they can do that. They
• 2:09:10
  Speaker 4: also talked about they believe they can get more of
• 2:09:13
  Speaker 4: the strikeout stuff back, they can get more of the
• 2:09:17
  Speaker 4: the the shape and the velo on the fastball back.
• 2:09:19
  Speaker 4: So he definitely has the upside. He's going dirt cheap
• 2:09:24
  Speaker 4: right now, and there's kind of a floor there too.
• 2:09:27
  Speaker 4: So I do like this as as a pretty sneaky pick.
• 2:09:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I appreciate look at this. We might be giants
• 2:09:32
  Speaker 1: experts around here. Bert.
• 2:09:34
  Speaker 3: I don't like it, but.
• 2:09:39
  Speaker 2: But that's that's besides the point'na. I'm gonna defer to
• 2:09:41
  Speaker 2: Taylor here. He kind of he tried to be nice
• 2:09:44
  Speaker 2: with it, but he just did a nice way to
• 2:09:45
  Speaker 2: say he also didn't like it. So I'm just gonna
• 2:09:49
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna let him be polite instead of what I
• 2:09:51
  Speaker 2: typically do to you.
• 2:09:52
  Speaker 1: So ego, we'll move on. Okay, Taylor, you alluded to
• 2:09:56
  Speaker 1: yourself being Devaul, give us why.
• 2:09:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he's not he's I'm gonna get that
• 2:10:00
  Speaker 4: closer roll back three eighty nine ADP right now, which
• 2:10:03
  Speaker 4: is just kind of ridiculous for a guy that you know,
• 2:10:06
  Speaker 4: he really has no shot because he completely lost his
• 2:10:09
  Speaker 4: control last year. Like he went from being closer one
• 2:10:12
  Speaker 4: day to being in tripa a literally the next day.
• 2:10:14
  Speaker 4: There was no like we're gonna we're gonna take him
• 2:10:17
  Speaker 4: out of the role and like, see what happens. No,
• 2:10:19
  Speaker 4: he was They're like, you're out, and we're so disgusted
• 2:10:22
  Speaker 4: with you that you're going to the miners, which just
• 2:10:25
  Speaker 4: never happens. So he spent some time in the miners,
• 2:10:27
  Speaker 4: and like it just it never got better. The walk
• 2:10:31
  Speaker 4: rate just got worse and worse as the season went on.
• 2:10:34
  Speaker 4: And then he went to winter ball this year, and
• 2:10:36
  Speaker 4: he is way overqualified for winter ball, but he walked
• 2:10:41
  Speaker 4: six in six and a third winning innings in winter ball,
• 2:10:43
  Speaker 4: so he's no closer to figuring out the control issues.
• 2:10:46
  Speaker 4: It hurts me because he's just such a fun guy
• 2:10:49
  Speaker 4: when he's on the stuff is nasty, But sometimes these relievers,
• 2:10:54
  Speaker 4: they just they lose that control and they don't get
• 2:10:56
  Speaker 4: it back. And even if he gets it back. I
• 2:10:59
  Speaker 4: don't think no, you know, if Melvin was disgusted enough
• 2:11:02
  Speaker 4: with him to send him to the minors to banish him,
• 2:11:05
  Speaker 4: I don't think he's gonna be in a hurry to
• 2:11:06
  Speaker 4: put him back in that role over Ryan Walker.
• 2:11:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's totally fair.
• 2:11:11
  Speaker 2: The only thing I can say with Deval is I
• 2:11:13
  Speaker 2: was looking at his stat cast just for fun, and
• 2:11:16
  Speaker 2: his number one comp will shock you. It's Ryan Walker.
• 2:11:21
  Speaker 2: So personally, I think stat cast is broken and then
• 2:11:23
  Speaker 2: we'll need to move on. But I just found that hilarious.
• 2:11:26
  Speaker 2: I clearly didn't bring that up when talking about Ryan Walker,
• 2:11:29
  Speaker 2: but since you had to go there, I had to.
• 2:11:30
  Speaker 3: I had to share that nuggets.
• 2:11:32
  Speaker 1: So who's your cell here? Brew?
• 2:11:33
  Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sorry, I am.
• 2:11:36
  Speaker 2: You spent a lot of money on him, but why
• 2:11:38
  Speaker 2: will ye We've disparaged him on this pot a few times,
• 2:11:43
  Speaker 2: like he's not a twenty stolen base guy like he
• 2:11:47
  Speaker 2: played for the Brewers who just like felt like running
• 2:11:50
  Speaker 2: for an entire like a few years, just for fun
• 2:11:52
  Speaker 2: to see what would happen.
• 2:11:54
  Speaker 3: And that's that's not going to continue.
• 2:11:56
  Speaker 2: He's gonna if he eclipses ten, I'll I'll send you
• 2:11:59
  Speaker 2: a drink, like, I just don't see it happening. The
• 2:12:02
  Speaker 2: power was a lot better in Milwaukee, and it's gonna
• 2:12:06
  Speaker 2: take a tank here in San Francisco. You know, third
• 2:12:09
  Speaker 2: worst ballpark for right handed hitters.
• 2:12:10
  Speaker 3: For power. It's just not what you want to do.
• 2:12:13
  Speaker 2: The lineup, it's it's okay, it's you know, so those
• 2:12:18
  Speaker 2: counting stats one hundred twelve RBIs he had last season
• 2:12:21
  Speaker 2: ninety three runs, Like, let's drop that back to what
• 2:12:23
  Speaker 2: he did in twenty three, twenty two, and the kind
• 2:12:26
  Speaker 2: of that eighty ish range, like all of these things
• 2:12:29
  Speaker 2: just have to come back to earth. And I think
• 2:12:31
  Speaker 2: we're paying not for exactly last year, but we're paying
• 2:12:35
  Speaker 2: for like ninety ninety five percent of last year. At
• 2:12:37
  Speaker 2: the draft table, give me Matt McClain behind him. I'm
• 2:12:40
  Speaker 2: not gonna take Boba Shet, but give me Xander, like
• 2:12:44
  Speaker 2: give me man, give me Mason Win. I'll even take
• 2:12:47
  Speaker 2: him just for the speed and the average upside. There's
• 2:12:50
  Speaker 2: just a lot of other guys that I would much
• 2:12:52
  Speaker 2: rather have than the Damas, because I think everybody's drafting
• 2:12:56
  Speaker 2: him looking at that speed going. Man, he figured something out,
• 2:12:59
  Speaker 2: and I'm gonna I'm gonna to take advantage, But why
• 2:13:02
  Speaker 2: do don't you want a thirty twenty guy.
• 2:13:04
  Speaker 3: I think he's gonna be a twenty maybe.
• 2:13:08
  Speaker 2: Five to six guy with a two forty average, Like,
• 2:13:12
  Speaker 2: I have zero interest in that. He's not at Lewis
• 2:13:15
  Speaker 2: Arria's level. He's not a do not draft, but he
• 2:13:18
  Speaker 2: is a do not draft for another five to seven
• 2:13:20
  Speaker 2: rounds for me. So I apologize.
• 2:13:23
  Speaker 3: You spent a lot of money over there, Taylor, but
• 2:13:25
  Speaker 3: it was not well, So it wasn't my buddy.
• 2:13:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is myself. I mean you nailed it all,
• 2:13:33
  Speaker 1: and I mean I think he's a great real life
• 2:13:36
  Speaker 1: player and stuff, but it's the problem now is like
• 2:13:39
  Speaker 1: that's not matching the fantasy profile and you can see
• 2:13:42
  Speaker 1: it even like in the average ADP. It is just
• 2:13:46
  Speaker 1: in free fall that I think he's going to progressively
• 2:13:49
  Speaker 1: fall more and more throughout draft season. Maybe the price
• 2:13:52
  Speaker 1: bowl even out, but currently where his cost is in
• 2:13:56
  Speaker 1: the top one hundred picks, I can't pay up for
• 2:13:58
  Speaker 1: Willia Thomas.
• 2:14:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't blame you, guys. I mean I was
• 2:14:02
  Speaker 4: excited from a real life standpoint, but from a fancy standpoint,
• 2:14:05
  Speaker 4: it's it's a really bad landing spot. And yeah, I
• 2:14:08
  Speaker 4: think I'm gonna wait till, you know, hopefully the ADP
• 2:14:11
  Speaker 4: does go down enough that he becomes a value, but
• 2:14:14
  Speaker 4: at this point there's not enough of a discount for
• 2:14:18
  Speaker 4: the downturn that he's about to take.
• 2:14:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so here's your prospect pick to click here on
• 2:14:23
  Speaker 1: your own team, Taylor.
• 2:14:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah. So I'm gonna go fairly deep here in a
• 2:14:27
  Speaker 4: guy that I feel really strongly is going to break
• 2:14:29
  Speaker 4: out in a big way this year. And his name
• 2:14:31
  Speaker 4: is Johnny Level, which is just a cool name, Johnny,
• 2:14:35
  Speaker 4: like Johnny Peralta j h N Why But he's a
• 2:14:39
  Speaker 4: five to ten one hundred and fifty four pounds I
• 2:14:42
  Speaker 4: don't know if that's still accurate. But switch hitting shortstop though,
• 2:14:46
  Speaker 4: which means there's a lot of projection. Okay, was a
• 2:14:49
  Speaker 4: million dollars signing out of Venezuela last year. According to MLB,
• 2:14:54
  Speaker 4: Pipeline had some of the best bat speed in the
• 2:14:56
  Speaker 4: class from both sides. They comped him to Raphael for Call,
• 2:15:01
  Speaker 4: who I don't know if you guys remember him, but
• 2:15:03
  Speaker 4: pretty pretty solid player back in the day, and he
• 2:15:07
  Speaker 4: didn't really get a lot of publicity, like he was
• 2:15:09
  Speaker 4: the Giant's top signing international period last year, but didn't
• 2:15:13
  Speaker 4: get draft anywhere, didn't get a lot of publicity, got
• 2:15:15
  Speaker 4: off to a slow start in the DSL, just to
• 2:15:17
  Speaker 4: hit one forty three in his first fourteen games, and
• 2:15:20
  Speaker 4: then he just turned it on and just had a
• 2:15:23
  Speaker 4: fantastic rest of the year. He slashed three twenty six,
• 2:15:26
  Speaker 4: four thirty two, six twenty eight, slugging nine home runs,
• 2:15:29
  Speaker 4: twelve stolen bases, almost had as many walks as strikeouts
• 2:15:33
  Speaker 4: thirteen point five percent walk rate, just a fourteen point
• 2:15:35
  Speaker 4: eight percent k rate. Had some ground ball issues early on,
• 2:15:38
  Speaker 4: but learned how to like raise his launch angle as
• 2:15:41
  Speaker 4: the season more on, and EV's were really strong for
• 2:15:44
  Speaker 4: his age. Had great contact, great approach, has plus speed,
• 2:15:49
  Speaker 4: like everything you want out of these like young international guys,
• 2:15:53
  Speaker 4: like true twenty twenty potential, and nobody is talking about
• 2:15:56
  Speaker 4: him like he's on, Like I'm in some pretty deep
• 2:15:59
  Speaker 4: dynasty leagues, and he's out there just as a free
• 2:16:03
  Speaker 4: agent waiting to be picked up because he's not getting
• 2:16:05
  Speaker 4: any respect anywhere. And I think this year he's gonna
• 2:16:08
  Speaker 4: fly up Fantasy rankings and dynasty rankings if you know
• 2:16:13
  Speaker 4: he can perform well stateside, and I really think he.
• 2:16:15
  Speaker 1: Can Yeah, I love this peck. It's almost like it
• 2:16:18
  Speaker 1: reminds me a little bit of like hayes U's Maade,
• 2:16:21
  Speaker 1: where like he could just really fly up. But I
• 2:16:23
  Speaker 1: think even more power here in this profile that I'm
• 2:16:26
  Speaker 1: feeling really smart because like what I do is Brew
• 2:16:30
  Speaker 1: knows this is like a lot of what I do,
• 2:16:32
  Speaker 1: like is just like leaderboard scouting by going through by
• 2:16:36
  Speaker 1: age and I'm running that on all my Autnue like
• 2:16:40
  Speaker 1: watchless I did. I had a star on Johnny level
• 2:16:43
  Speaker 1: because he popped with that one forty WRC plus he
• 2:16:46
  Speaker 1: put up as a seventeen year old down there. It was.
• 2:16:49
  Speaker 1: It's an insane stat line that I think this is
• 2:16:52
  Speaker 1: a great pick that if you're looking for somebody who
• 2:16:54
  Speaker 1: can really just reach that level almost like I mean
• 2:16:58
  Speaker 1: a layer dollars degrees or something like that, where like
• 2:17:00
  Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of growth in levels profile. Brew,
• 2:17:07
  Speaker 1: who is your pick to click here for San Francisco?
• 2:17:09
  Speaker 1: Because I already gave mine in Birdsong?
• 2:17:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well I'm gonna go back to the quadae player
• 2:17:15
  Speaker 2: because you know, why not? And a guy that I
• 2:17:18
  Speaker 2: think for about three years now, I've been waiting for
• 2:17:21
  Speaker 2: to break out. I wonder if Taylor can pick it
• 2:17:23
  Speaker 2: up from there, and that is Luis Matos. And when
• 2:17:28
  Speaker 2: I look at the profile of Luis Mato's a guy
• 2:17:31
  Speaker 2: that has great plate discipline, has sneaky power, like that
• 2:17:35
  Speaker 2: guy is much stronger than you realize, can steal a
• 2:17:39
  Speaker 2: few bags and has a pretty decent hit tool. I
• 2:17:42
  Speaker 2: just feel like the Giants have not given him the
• 2:17:44
  Speaker 2: chance to actually run with the job, and I think
• 2:17:47
  Speaker 2: if they do, like he can actually be one of
• 2:17:50
  Speaker 2: those really sneaky values. He's never gonna be like an
• 2:17:54
  Speaker 2: All Star by any means, but he's like that like
• 2:17:57
  Speaker 2: amazing fourth outfielder that you're just like year and year out,
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  Speaker 2: like he's undervalue. You pick him up, he goes, you know,
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  Speaker 2: twenty ten, two eighty five, and you plug him in
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  Speaker 2: next year does the same thing, and everybody doesn't want
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  Speaker 2: to draft him. Like I think that's what Louis Manto's
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  Speaker 2: in and then he has a few good years that
• 2:18:13
  Speaker 2: might make an All Star team here or there if
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  Speaker 2: they let him play like that's all I'm asking in
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  Speaker 2: San Francisco. Let the guy play like he goes into
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  Speaker 2: spring train last year, he just was launching the ball
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  Speaker 2: everywhere and then no, not really, We're not gonna We're
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  Speaker 2: gonna give you some some cups coffee.
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  Speaker 3: He got a little hurt.
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  Speaker 2: I get that, But I just I can't quit Louis
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  Speaker 2: Manto's ever since I've kind of looked at that profile.
• 2:18:35
  Speaker 2: He just beats everything that I want of a hitter.
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  Speaker 2: The just be sneaky, valuable, and it's just just not
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  Speaker 2: coming to fruition.
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  Speaker 3: So I could be wrong.
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  Speaker 2: I could be playing in this song for the next
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  Speaker 2: few years, but just give him a chance to play.
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  Speaker 1: I love this And now that you've got your young
• 2:18:53
  Speaker 1: kil Fernandez, we can watch that together. Yeah, go ahead,
• 2:19:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah no, I was gonna say, Taylor, I think Mantos
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  Speaker 1: is probably a little bit better than Fernandez. What do
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  Speaker 1: you think? I mean?
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  Speaker 4: I can't. I can't quit Matos. I just I still
• 2:19:11
  Speaker 4: believe for all the reasons we were mentioned, like just
• 2:19:14
  Speaker 4: great contact, he does a little bit of everything, Like
• 2:19:17
  Speaker 4: could he not be what we were talking about Xander
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  Speaker 4: Bogart's like that kind of fifteen home run, fifteen stolen base,
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  Speaker 4: like good batting average, Like that's the hope with Louis Montos,
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  Speaker 4: Like he's never gonna hit thirty home runs or anything.
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  Speaker 4: Or steal thirty bases. But he could just be a
• 2:19:30
  Speaker 4: really really good high floor hitter, like a good like
• 2:19:33
  Speaker 4: points League hitter. And yeah, I think they're gonna give
• 2:19:37
  Speaker 4: him run like mike Yastremski. They were trying to trade him.
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  Speaker 4: I think this offseason. I don't think he's gonna be
• 2:19:42
  Speaker 4: there forever like they they they already kind of had
• 2:19:45
  Speaker 4: one prospect reclamation project last year and Elliott Ramos like,
• 2:19:48
  Speaker 4: why not do the same thing with with Louis Montos.
• 2:19:51
  Speaker 4: I definitely think he could have kind of that similar
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  Speaker 4: bounce back.
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  Speaker 1: Awesome. All right, Well that wraps us up here for
• 2:19:59
  Speaker 1: the NL West. Where's you going to go around the
• 2:20:00
  Speaker 1: horn real quick? Who do we think wins this division?
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  Speaker 1: Taylor Hmmm, I'm gonna go with the Dodgers.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, rub Why are we even doing this?
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  Speaker 1: Hey, I gotta put it on the record. I need
• 2:20:13
  Speaker 1: it on the record.
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  Speaker 3: It's the Dodgers.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, Dodgers.
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  Speaker 2: Next time, can we say who gets the wild card?
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  Speaker 2: And I'll be a little more fun, but I'll take
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  Speaker 2: the Dodgers.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's yeah, gonna be a clean
• 2:20:25
  Speaker 1: sweep if they don't win, if they don't like beat
• 2:20:27
  Speaker 1: the all time wins record one of these years. It's
• 2:20:29
  Speaker 1: going to be almost more of a surprise than anything else.
• 2:20:32
  Speaker 1: But all right, that reps us up for the NL
• 2:20:34
  Speaker 1: West Taylor, thank you so much for joining us. Let
• 2:20:37
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• 2:20:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks for having me, guys, this was a blast.
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• 2:20:57
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• 2:21:00
  Speaker 1: Awesome, Thanks Jeremy. Where can we find your work and
• 2:21:03
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• 2:21:04
  Speaker 2: Yep, fanks me on socials on X and Blue Sky,
• 2:21:07
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• 2:21:32
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• 2:21:36
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