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- 0:00Hello, home service business owners.
- 0:01Today's a very special episode.
- 0:02Typically, Jonathan Patoshnik and I do a podcast every single Wednesday, and we've done it for four or five months now, every single week.
- 0:11Today, he's out in Alaska, he's traveling, so we figured we'd do an async podcast where instead of us talking together, we're actually gonna show you something live.
- 0:20Now, over the past several months, as we've done the podcast, one of the major themes has been AI.
- 0:25And I know for a lot of business owners, AI can seem a little intimidating, or you feel like you're not technical savvy enough to use the tools, or you might have even think that like it's just these big tech companies making a bunch of money, and it's putting the small guy behind.
- 0:39And that might be true.
- 0:40We're not going to change that as home service business owners, as small business owners.
- 0:43We're not going to change that ourselves.
- 0:45And so I would like you to be able to use these tools to be able to grow your business and have this be a wave that you ride and you continue to be in the top one to 5% in your market by using these tools.
- 0:58And so today we're actually going to show you examples of using AI and we can talk about AI and how cool it is.
- 1:05And you've probably heard us talk a lot and you're like, it's cool.
- 1:07I just, I want to see it.
- 1:09And that's what today's podcast for this today's show is going to be all about is that showing you.
- 1:14a screen recording of us just doing AI related tasks that are useful in our business.
- 1:19So it's gonna start off with me.
- 1:20I'm going to be showing you how to do a CO briefing to be able to get all the inputs you need for your business.
- 1:26So as you're scaling a really large company, you don't need to be in the weeds.
- 1:30You don't need to be micromanaging anyone inside of your business because you're getting a briefing at the end of the day to know what's going on in marketing, operations, sales, admin,
- 1:39and every aspect of the business so you don't get distracted and you don't have to micromanage people or have a whole bunch of meetings that take all your time.
- 1:46I'm going to be doing that for about 10 to 15 minutes, showing you how to set that up and how I am using that in the upcoming Texas Challenge to make sure I'm alerted to any problems in the business
- 1:57and I can see what's happening in terms of churn, new customers being added, which services are being added at a very high level each every single day, and just send it to me on Slack.
- 2:07I'm gonna show you how I set that up using the connection to HomeWorks.
- 2:11Then JP is gonna step in, and he's gonna talk about how to use AI to make sure that your copy, your text, is really solid when it comes to writing emails, whether it be a marketing email, whether it be an estimate email,
- 2:24It could also be used for things like copy on marketing, like a flyer, a door hanger, your website.
- 2:29And so I think these are two really solid use cases.
- 2:32And if you enjoy this, please, in the comments, let us know what else you'd like to see, because this is just the tip of the iceberg of what JP and I use AI for.
- 2:40So we're going to start with mine.
- 2:41I'm going to be talking about that high-level CEO kind of daily briefing so that you can run a large company because inside of Texas, when I go there, I'm not going to spend more than 10 hours per week working on the business.
- 2:54And if I'm going to do that, it means I need to have a lot of data in a short amount of time and I can't be sending out meetings and going and talking to a bunch of people.
- 3:01I need it consolidated quickly for me and I can use AI to do that.
- 3:05And then I'm going to kick it over to JP where he is going to show us how to not make AI slop.
- 3:10when it comes to your emails and your marketing message that you're sending to your customers.
- 3:14All right, so the very first step we want to do is connect our AI tool to our homework account using MCP.
- 3:22So MCP is just a fancy term for connecting your AI agent.
- 3:28So that could be ChatWT, that could be...
- 3:31Claude, that could be Manus, directly to my Homework account.
- 3:35Now, this is the Homework account that I am going to be using in Texas.
- 3:40So there is no customer data in there right now.
- 3:43But when I'm in Texas, you'll be seeing me talking to my agent a lot.
- 3:46And it's going to be all through this platform connected directly into my homeworks account.
- 3:51So that way, instead of logging into homeworks to create a customer or to send something or to create an estimate, all of that can now be done just from an agent and more importantly, get a lot of really valuable insights and data.
- 4:03So, inside the help articles inside of Manus, it has instructions how to connect to ChatDVT,
- 4:10Claude, Manis, it takes like two minutes.
- 4:12So instead of even reading it, what I'm going to do is I'm just going to copy the help article.
- 4:16I'm going to tell Manis to connect it for me.
- 4:19Can you connect to my HomeWorks account?
- 4:22Here is the help article with the instruction on how to do that.
- 4:27Then I'm just going to drop the link right in here.
- 4:29I will use this chat as a way to be able to get insights, set up automations,
- 4:37and get reminders for myself on a daily basis, as well as CEO briefs of what's happening inside of my homework account.
- 4:44So I just wanna make the connection for now.
- 4:45That's literally all you need to do.
- 4:47It's going to go ahead and get this running, and I'm gonna log in using my homework's login information.
- 4:53It's called OAuth.
- 4:55All I have to do is put my login information, which is my username and my password, and it gets all of that connected immediately.
- 5:02So it's literally doing this on the background.
- 5:04Again, this is the foundational layer for everything else that I'm going to talk about, which is using this, whether it be Chatwt, Claude, Manus, anything with an MCP access to be able to do a lot of really cool stuff inside of your account.
- 5:18And what's cool about this is it can have read access, which allows me to be able to see the data inside of my account and get really good data analysis, which, you know, pricing analysis, churn analysis,
- 5:32and look inside of my account and see the data.
- 5:34It also allows me to do write analysis or writing into my account.
- 5:38So creation of an estimate, creation of an invoice.
- 5:41And we're adding more and more functionality around like even adding tags.
- 5:44So let's see here.
- 5:45Recommended for this task.
- 5:46So it's already picked up on the fact that there's a Homeworks Remote MCB Server.
- 5:50Let's go ahead and apply that.
- 5:51So you could literally just go through this and there's like a...
- 5:54You could set this up the way you're supposed to and read all of this.
- 5:58But again, the whole cool thing about AI is like, I just copied the help article link into the agent and like, hey, set this up for me.
- 6:06And it'll ask me what it needs from me.
- 6:08And the only part I'm not gonna show here is me logging in and typing in my username and password.
- 6:13Okay, and just like that, you can see it says your homework account is connected.
- 6:16I enabled the existing homework connector and play a successful read-only verification against its API schema.
- 6:22No records were created, changed, no automations or reminders were configured.
- 6:25You can now ask for homeworks insights, daily reminders, automations, or SEO brief styles and feature measures.
- 6:29Okay, cool.
- 6:30So now it's connected to my homeworks account.
- 6:34And because I have a general manager, he'll be hiring people.
- 6:37I have command center accessing my account and setting up new customers, doing chats, sending estimates, emailing, texting, setting up automations, all of the other stuff.
- 6:47I just want a daily brief that is going to tell me what I need to know.
- 6:51at a high level what's happening.
- 6:53Specifically because this location, I am going to be there for six months, and I wanna know at least what's going on.
- 6:58Like, how many new customers do we get?
- 7:00Who canceled?
- 7:01Why did they cancel, et cetera?
- 7:02So I'm going to try to set up a daily CEO briefing, where at the end of each day, it tells me everything that happened.
- 7:09So I'm just gonna talk to it.
- 7:10I don't have any source script right now.
- 7:11I'm just gonna talk to it for a bit.
- 7:12All right, so I'm gonna be in Texas for the next six months, and I want to have a end of day briefing,
- 7:20I'm thinking at 7 p.m. local time in Dallas, Texas.
- 7:25I want to have a briefing that's going to basically recap everything that happened throughout the day.
- 7:31So specifically, I want to know the number of leads that were added.
- 7:34I want to see how many estimates were sent.
- 7:38I want to see how many estimates were accepted.
- 7:42I want to see also based upon me also connecting my ads account.
- 7:48I want to know what my cost per lead is for that day on Facebook, as well as Google.
- 7:53I think.
- 7:54It's really important to that I know if customers are leaving.
- 7:57So if anyone cancels service, I need to know about it.
- 8:01I also want to know what's being accepted.
- 8:03So when you look at the estimates that are being accepted, I want to look at the items and services.
- 8:09And since I'm offering mowing and I'm offering lawn treatments, I want to know...
- 8:14When you give me the briefing, like how many of the customers that are being added have just mowing and how many of them have mowing and treatments and how many of them just have treatments.
- 8:24So I want to see that breakdown.
- 8:25Yeah.
- 8:26it'll be valuable for me to be able to know where to deploy the marketing dollars.
- 8:29I also want to be doing an analysis of where people heard about us.
- 8:33So that way, even if they're not coming directly from Facebook ads or Google ads, like if they're sitting in our trucks, I don't even know about that.
- 8:39So on a daily basis, I would like you to see the referral source that is inside of their HomeWorks account.
- 8:46And so where it asks, where did you hear about us?
- 8:49I need to know about that in my daily brief and get to know what's happening.
- 8:52Now, each day that you send me...
- 8:55My brief, I want to know these numbers for that day, but I also want to know it for the last rolling 30 days for all of these numbers, the cost per lead, the if customers are leaving, like the churn rate.
- 9:07So I want to be able to know what my churn rate is.
- 9:09I want to know if someone left, why they left, and I want that all surfaced inside my briefing.
- 9:16And this is so that way I can make sure that quality control is good.
- 9:20And if there's any sort of issues out in the field that I'm aware of it, even though I might not be seeing the notes from command center, I also want to kind of in the daily briefing, I want a synopsis of any issues that are happening.
- 9:31So customer complaints, calls to command center, any sort of issues with the operations of the business.
- 9:37I'm mostly focused on the strategy, the marketing and the advertising, but I do want to keep a pulse on the quality control,
- 9:45And any sort of complaints that might be occurring.
- 9:49And let's go ahead and start there.
- 9:50Go ahead and ask me three questions to make this super powerful of something I might be missing in my daily brief, based upon everything that you can see in the exposed API of homework.
- 10:00Okay, so go ahead.
- 10:01I went ahead and just talked to it for a long period of time there.
- 10:04It kind of organized.
- 10:05It looks like into a bit of a chart of everything I want inside of the document or inside of the automation.
- 10:10See what happens.
- 10:11So this is going to take a little second.
- 10:13It's going to create this automation on a daily basis.
- 10:16Okay.
- 10:17So it says to make the 7 p.m. day Dallas end of day brief, generally decision useful.
- 10:22Please answer these three questions.
- 10:23I mean, this is a great question as literally, as I said this, I was like, Oh, I should have told it to put it to my Slack.
- 10:30So yeah, for number one, okay, let's just go here.
- 10:33Yeah, so for number one, delivering escalation, let's go ahead and put this into my Slack underneath my EA channel.
- 10:41So you might not use Slack, but I have what's called an EA or executive assistant where anything that's automated around my summaries that I use from AI go to this specific channel.
- 10:52So there's just one place that I always know all of my summaries are at.
- 10:56across Notion, Slack, wherever it's pulling from across the different companies.
- 11:00So it's useful for me.
- 11:02But you could have this send you an email.
- 11:04You could have this to have an automation that pops up inside of Manus or whatever platform you're using.
- 11:09Obviously there's connectors.
- 11:10So see, I can connect all these different apps into Manus.
- 11:13So it can see Notion.
- 11:15It can see Slack, Stripe, Excel payments.
- 11:17I can see all of my email stuff.
- 11:19you can see homeworks now there's my homework one let's go it's it's connected to my email so i can have it like put stuff in my calendar i can have it send me emails but i have for me personally i put all all in my slack channels all right let's see the second channel our second question they have here is uh let's see here measurement rules what should count as a lead and a customer leaving in your report okay let's go ahead and move this over here okay so in terms of number two for the measurement rules a lead is just anytime
- 11:48Any contact information is added to the account.
- 11:51This could be an abandoned cart.
- 11:52This could be someone just walking to the crew and giving them their information.
- 11:58Basically, any new contact added to the account should be considered a lead.
- 12:03I know I want to know where they're coming from.
- 12:07what that lead source is.
- 12:09And then in terms of customer leaving, if a customer is leaving, we're going to ask them why.
- 12:16And so you're going to have to look at the call notes from command center for us to be able to distinguish why they left, since they will call in and those notes will be left in the customer notes or the call notes for that specific customer.
- 12:32For churn, it needs to be that they explicitly cancel the recurring service.
- 12:37If they just paused for a service or skipped one, that should not count as churn.
- 12:42Okay, so again, I'm trying to create this kind of daily summary.
- 12:46And what I always like to do before I just tell it what to do is like, hey, what are the few things I might be missing?
- 12:50So I'm really happy it specifically called out the fact, like how do you want me to deliver this to you?
- 12:55And then also it wants more clarification, like what do you want us to consider as a lead?
- 12:59What do you want us to consider as a customer leading?
- 13:01So it's useful to be able to define those things.
- 13:05Marketing operation context, please connect or identify the specific Facebook or meta ads and Google ads accounts you included and confirm whether at home works.
- 13:12Where did you hear about us?
- 13:13Fuel is consistently required to intake is a great question.
- 13:17Okay.
- 13:18Also, which outcomes are very special?
- 13:20Okay, this is a great question.
- 13:21Okay.
- 13:22All right, for number three, I will add the Meta and Facebook Ads account connectors.
- 13:28And so you can see all the data that's coming in for that specific, for this specific Augusta Long Care location.
- 13:34When it comes to the where did you hear about us field, it is constantly added at Command Center if they call in, because we asked them that question.
- 13:43And also, if it comes from Google or Facebook, we are using UTM parameters to populate that field inside HomeWorks.
- 13:50So it should be accurate.
- 13:52don't see that field filled in, there's some ways that they can sometimes get in.
- 13:58And so you can just put unassigned or that's not, it's empty that we're not sure.
- 14:03We don't know where it's coming from.
- 14:06But I want to get as close to good lead attribution as possible.
- 14:10In terms of the cancellations, I do want to really highlight the 90 day turn versus the annual turn.
- 14:15So how many people turn in the first 90 days versus the entire year?
- 14:18So I can really pinpoint where customers are
- 14:24Okay.
- 14:26And if you have any sort of notes from command center as to why they left, anything about their refund, I definitely want to see that included next to their name.
- 14:37So on this one specifically, I want to know their name.
- 14:39If they turn, if they leave, they cancel a recurring service.
- 14:42I want to know their name.
- 14:42I want to know what service they had.
- 14:44I want to know why they canceled specifically.
- 14:49Okay, cool.
- 14:50So now I have given it everything it needs.
- 14:53It's going to be thinking for a second here.
- 14:55All right.
- 14:55So a few minutes later after the AI has worked, it has quite a bit of information for me.
- 15:00So the data model is a good fit for most of the briefing.
- 15:03I verified that homeworks can report newly created contacts and their stored source, date, estimate, send actions, accepted estimates, and the line items in recurring service series with a distinct cancellation timestamp.
- 15:16Critically, a paused series is distinct from a canceled series, so your churn definition can be applied without treating skips or pauses as churn.
- 15:25The daily brief will report the following for today and the prior 30 completed days.
- 15:31New context and attribution source, including unassigned,
- 15:35Estimate sent and accepted, accepted service mix, platform spend and cost per lead, explicit recurring service cancellations, 90 day churn, annual churn, and a quality control synopsis.
- 15:47Every cancellation will include the customer's name, canceled recurring services, cancellation date, reason for the available command center record, and any refund mentioned.
- 15:55The current day's advertising operational figures will be clearly marked preliminary at 7 p.m. before late data can still arrive.
- 16:03For service mix, I'll classify each accepted estimate as mowing only, treatments only, or mowing and treatments from its accepted line items.
- 16:12I checked the current item catalog and found mowing and initial mow, but no clearly named treatment plan.
- 16:17This is great.
- 16:17So the HomeWorks account is brand new, and I haven't put my treatment packages in there yet.
- 16:24So it's only seeing mowing and initial mow as items and services right now.
- 16:28Please provide the exact item names that should count as treatments or confirm them that I should use a treatment keyword rule and flag unmatched.
- 16:38This is great.
- 16:38So it's trying to figure out exactly, hey, there's missing treatment stuff here.
- 16:42So.
- 16:43I will still need to connect Meta Ads and Google Ads, since I have not connected those here.
- 16:48But let's go ahead and see what an example of this might look like.
- 16:50Okay, this is excellent.
- 16:51I still need to add my treatments packages and items and services to my Homework account, since this is a brand new location.
- 16:58So I will do that soon.
- 16:59I will also connect my Meta Ads and Google Ads accounts shortly.
- 17:03But could you go ahead and send to my Slack channel an example of what this might look like and just pre-populate it with
- 17:11data for the business, assuming that I'm spending about $500 per day on ads, and that I'm getting about five to 15 new customers per day.
- 17:22And I have about four to five technicians out in the field.
- 17:25And just give me an idea of what this could look like fully filled out in operations while I'm in Texas.
- 17:32And just
- 17:33Don't use data from homeworks, just pre-populate it with stuff inside of my Slack channel.
- 17:39So I can see what this briefing is going to look like in terms of formatting.
- 17:42So this will be interesting to see what actually comes up with formatting, because I haven't given it a format.
- 17:46I haven't told it, okay, I want it to look like this just to spare you the extra time of that.
- 17:49But let's go ahead and see what it looks like and what, once it creates its daily executive report inside of Slack, how it looks.
- 17:57So we're back in Slack and it has posted to my EA channel.
- 18:01And this again, just as fictional data, but this is what you're, I'm gonna be getting every single day when I'm in Texas.
- 18:07And the reason for this is because if I'm not in operations, I still need a pulse on it.
- 18:11And if I'm not actually running the ad myself, since Augusta leads is doing that, I need to have a pulse on it because I'm not answering the phone because commands are doing it, I need a pulse on it.
- 18:18And so the whole objective
- 18:21of using AI in this case is that I don't have to be in the weeds and spending time looking over people's shoulder or micromanaging them, but rather I can just get a snapshot of what's happening, but be able to get the information I need to be able to take action in business or see where there's problems.
- 18:36So this is the example.
- 18:37I've got a snapshot, 7 p.m.,
- 18:4011 new contacts were added today 294 in the rolling 30.
- 18:45Oh, I see it did here.
- 18:45So it is like my daily estimates sent estimates accepted, et cetera.
- 18:50And then it does for what is in the last 30 days.
- 18:53That's great.
- 18:53Last rolling 30.
- 18:56Okay.
- 18:56So marketing has them that I'm spending on a spout on Facebook and meta or Instagram, Google ads, shows me what my cost per lead is.
- 19:05Awesome.
- 19:07It's very easy to connect your Facebook ads account and your Google ads account to be able to bring this data across.
- 19:13So that'll be easy.
- 19:15And then the lead attribution part of what's coming in from the homeworks dropdown of when homeworks is answering the phone.
- 19:23We also, we make sure that we use UTM parameters to bring across this automatically if an, a form is filled out from Facebook or Google.
- 19:30So it makes it more accurate.
- 19:32Okay.
- 19:32Then we got estimates accepted.
- 19:34How many were sent?
- 19:35How many are accepted?
- 19:36Accepted estimate conversion.
- 19:38So this was like my 40%, 42% close rate.
- 19:41One was mowing only, two was mowing and treatments, and then none of them were treatments only for this specific day.
- 19:47And then here's churn.
- 19:48Okay, this is great.
- 19:49So it shows the customer's name, what our 90 day churn is, and then our annual churn.
- 19:54Very good.
- 19:55And this is great.
- 19:56So it'll be pulling this from command center in terms of that.
- 19:59It'll be able to see all the call notes that are being added inside of homeworks and just give me a quick snapshot like what's happening in terms of bad stuff.
- 20:06So like this is a complaint.
- 20:08She reported clippings left near the side gate.
- 20:10The command center schedule the crew follow up and request a completion photo.
- 20:14Awesome.
- 20:14Another one is from Morgan question a mowing cadence change.
- 20:17The command center confirmed the weather driven route adjustment and set an expectation for the next visit.
- 20:22Excellent.
- 20:23Great.
- 20:23And then it says CEO focus for tomorrow.
- 20:26Review the two service quality follow-ups before route launch and ensure both have an owner and completion confirmation.
- 20:31Number two, keep a close eye on bundled service conversion.
- 20:35Fictional treatment attachment is strongest in accepted estimates while treatment's only volume is limited.
- 20:41Number three, tighten lead source capture on the 12 rolling 30 unassigned contacts before real came by.
- 20:48Great.
- 20:48So, again, this is just for illustration purposes.
- 20:50I have not connected my Facebook ads.
- 20:52I have not connected my Google account.
- 20:53But once I do that and I'm in Texas for the challenge, it's going to be popular with real actual data.
- 21:00But this is all in an effort to be able to delegate parts of the business to...
- 21:05and preserve my time so I can focus on strategy, focus on where the business should be going, and not have to spend more than 10 hours a week.
- 21:13I'm going to show you how I write messages.
- 21:17In this example, how I write an email marketing campaign to a client.
- 21:22This is such a common use case for AI, and that's why I've chosen it.
- 21:26But I will tell you, most people feel that other than building a website, doing a little data analysis, writing, that's about all you can do with AI.
- 21:38And that is entirely wrong.
- 21:40But I've chosen to go ahead and use this example because it's the most common way that most people use AI.
- 21:46And so I'm gonna show you how I do it.
- 21:49And I'm gonna keep it very brief, so I'm leaving out a ton of stuff.
- 21:53If we had a video camera rolling over my shoulder for two hours, you'd see so much more.
- 21:58Now, what I'll tell you is, I recently put a video on Five for 50, and I don't know what the headline's gonna be because they change, but it's something about AI,
- 22:09And the gist of the video is one question to ask yourself to find all the ways you can use AI inside your business because there are so many ways to use it other than just writing and other than just building websites and other than just writing software code.
- 22:24So many ways.
- 22:25So I encourage you to watch that video because it also gives examples of how you think about where you plug AI into your business.
- 22:32And I'm guessing you haven't heard these examples.
- 22:35It's a different way to think about AI.
- 22:38All right, I'm starting in Gemini.
- 22:40I don't use Gemini, I don't like Gemini, I don't like Grok, and I don't like Meta's AI models.
- 22:47I like Claude and I like ChatGPT.
- 22:50I'm sure all of that will change soon, and at some point, Gemini might be the best.
- 22:54Maybe Grok will be the best, I don't know.
- 22:56But at this moment in time, I think Claude and ChatGPT are the best based on all my use.
- 23:02I pay for all the models, and I think it's imperative that you do.
- 23:07Because Claude and Chachiputine know way too much about me, I'm writing an example email in Gemini just to get us started.
- 23:16So again, so many ways you can use AI, but I picked the one that so many of us probably predominantly use AI for just to show you a few different ways to think about it.
- 23:29So how do most people use AI to write?
- 23:32Starting in
- 23:34Gemini, I just as a quick example, I wrote, write me an email to my clients upselling mulch installation.
- 23:42Remember, I serve DFW.
- 23:44What information do you need to know to write this email?
- 23:47Ask me questions one at a time.
- 23:50Okay, this is the first problem.
- 23:52This is where most people start.
- 23:54They write, they type, and they don't know what to say.
- 23:58And as a result, they hardly tell the model anything.
- 24:03And as a result, they get an email like this, and it sucks.
- 24:07There's no other way to say it.
- 24:10So one thing I did that maybe many people don't do is I at least asked it to ask me questions one at a time.
- 24:17I gave it quick answers.
- 24:18Again, it wrote me an email.
- 24:20But first and foremost, the top level thing you have to do, in my opinion, is talk to it.
- 24:27And so I prefer to, you can use, of course, any of these tools to talk to it.
- 24:32I personally use a product called Whisperflow.
- 24:34I just hit a hot key on my keyboard and I just start talking and it records everything I'm saying and I just do a brain dump.
- 24:42So as an example, if I wanna write an email
- 24:46I just start talking.
- 24:48And if I don't know what to talk about, then I'll have it ask me questions.
- 24:52I'll have it prompt me.
- 24:53And then I'll just record audio because if I have to type, I'll type 30 words.
- 24:58If I talk, I'll give it 300.
- 25:00And that is the key.
- 25:02And if you're somebody who doesn't like to talk and you'd rather type, it's going to take you way longer.
- 25:08I'd encourage you to still consider typing.
- 25:10Nobody's listening.
- 25:11Nobody.
- 25:13it's just a machine, AI is just math, it's not actually intelligent, don't be embarrassed.
- 25:19Just do a brain dump and who cares what you say, it'll figure it all out.
- 25:24It doesn't need to be clean, it doesn't need to be fancy, it doesn't need to be well organized.
- 25:29You just need to get all the thoughts out of your brain because that context is the context it will use to help you write.
- 25:38So as an example, I was recording that as I was talking, and normally I would just hit the button, obviously, and then it would do its thing.
- 25:48All right, so let me get rid of that.
- 25:50So first and foremost, I can't recommend enough that if you don't talk,
- 25:56Change that behavior.
- 25:57That alone will make a big difference.
- 26:00Now, because the model doesn't know a ton about me, I get back this boring email with the terrible headline, refresh your flowerbeds professional mulch installation.
- 26:09Who cares?
- 26:09Nobody cares.
- 26:10They're getting 90 emails.
- 26:12It's not exciting.
- 26:13It doesn't create curiosity.
- 26:14It doesn't create concern.
- 26:16It doesn't open a loop that you need answered.
- 26:18It doesn't do anything.
- 26:19It's a terrible subject line.
- 26:21It's boring.
- 26:22And then even looking at this email, it's like, I just don't even want to read it.
- 26:26Like it's I'll just put it that way.
- 26:28There's nothing about it that's interesting or exciting.
- 26:31There's nothing about it that's city turf.
- 26:33There's nothing about it that's my voice.
- 26:34There's nothing about it that uses the common language we use as a company.
- 26:39Okay.
- 26:40So this is what most people get back and it's not going to get you anywhere.
- 26:45It's not good.
- 26:46So one of the first things I highly recommend you create inside your business is if you're going to use AI to help you do any design work, I'd recommend you create what's called a style guide.
- 26:56Okay.
- 26:58And a style guide is basically just the look and feel.
- 27:01It's the rules.
- 27:02It's how the logo is used.
- 27:04It's the colors that are allowed to be used.
- 27:06It's the fonts.
- 27:08It's the color codes.
- 27:09It's the printing codes.
- 27:10It's all of that stuff.
- 27:13And this is important for a whole ton of reasons, but for one, when you're designing, you can just upload it to AI and it will give it the rules.
- 27:23Well, the same is true of your communications.
- 27:26So I have a playbook that we have created.
- 27:29It's probably 11 pages and it's exactly how we communicate with the clients, how we say things.
- 27:34It's what we say.
- 27:35It's what we don't say.
- 27:36It's all the rules of communication.
- 27:39It teaches AI exactly how we communicate and it has exact examples.
- 27:44The brand messaging guide is our USPs, phrases we use, big concepts we push.
- 27:52It's everything around brand communication that we want to be very consistent on in the marketing across direct mail, across email marketing, across our website, et cetera.
- 28:03And I'm not gonna open these because I don't wanna show off all this stuff, but I highly recommend you make these.
- 28:09And it makes all of your writing better immediately.
- 28:12Here's the other problem.
- 28:14If you're doing the writing, eventually your models will,
- 28:18will learn, like mine learns about me.
- 28:21The problem is as soon as you want your team to do some writing, all this, everything that is coming out the way you want it in your model will not work when they start trying to write
- 28:34for the company or on behalf of the company because it doesn't know all the stuff you've taught it over a month or years.
- 28:40And that's where these guides and additional guides to this become really important.
- 28:45If I am having someone respond to reviews, then I have a review communication playbook.
- 28:52It's incredibly important.
- 28:55So your experience might be, well, I've been using this for a while and it's getting pretty good.
- 28:58Yeah, because you've iterated and it's learned.
- 29:01But if you go to a fresh instance on someone else's computer and you're asking them to now respond in the voice of the company, it doesn't know any of this stuff.
- 29:11So it has to have these documents.
- 29:12You can use AI to help you create these documents.
- 29:16But I will tell you,
- 29:18It's very rare I take what AI gets me.
- 29:21I fight it constantly.
- 29:24All right, so let's jump into writing an email.
- 29:27So the problem with having to do this on the spot is I'm sure I won't do as good of a job as I normally do, but I'm just going to go for it.
- 29:33All right.
- 29:34Writing an email to my CityTurf clients.
- 29:37We are upselling mulch and we...
- 29:42are talking about both the aesthetics, how it will make them look and feel after the mulch is installed.
- 29:48We are talking about, we're in the middle of summer heat right now, so we're talking about the benefits of laying down mulch to protect a, create a moisture barrier.
- 29:58Let me figure out three more things to talk about or three other considerations, prompt me one at a time.
- 30:03I need to figure out a CTA on this, and I want to make the response super simple, something like just reply.
- 30:12Or we could give them a link.
- 30:13Let's brainstorm that.
- 30:15So that was a pretty mediocre audio on my part.
- 30:18But now I'm on the spot recording this video.
- 30:20So I'm just going with it.
- 30:21But first, I just need to get some thoughts down.
- 30:24If I had thought through this example more before I started here, I might have had a lot more I could have said.
- 30:29Let's see what it comes back with.
- 30:31You can pause your screen and read all this if you want to, but basically it gave me back four or five things.
- 30:36It's asking if I really want to do all five benefits.
- 30:38Of course, I don't.
- 30:39I just wanted to get some ideas from it.
- 30:43So in this case, I would say, no, I only want to focus on everything related to the heat.
- 30:51and protecting the property.
- 30:52And the side benefit is the outcome of how your property makes you feel and how it looks, especially if you're entertaining over the summer.
- 31:01Again, maybe way too much information for the email, but that's the gist of it.
- 31:05We're first pushing on the benefits of mulch due to the heat that everybody's experiencing right now, so they'll understand it.
- 31:13And then we're subtly mentioning the look of the property, especially for those that are entertaining.
- 31:21And then here it's pushing back on something about using the just reply.
- 31:26I want to use just reply for now because it's the simplest, least friction way for the client to respond.
- 31:31And we have technology that will handle the inbound messages.
- 31:35So I'm not concerned about it.
- 31:39So something else I often do is I tend to write a lot of this out myself.
- 31:44So I'll just do a brain dump and I'll just write a concept.
- 31:49And I think that's really important as well.
- 31:50There's lots of ways to do this.
- 31:52That's not the one I'm demoing, but it's very common for me to write it out.
- 31:56That way I get my thoughts down and I'm not being completely influenced by the model.
- 32:02And that's something else to consider.
- 32:05I'm going to pause, read this, and I'll be back.
- 32:08You can read this if you want, but I'm going to just go quick here.
- 32:12We can do one and two.
- 32:12I don't want to do number three.
- 32:15We can do one and two.
- 32:16I don't want to do number three because we do not want people to cut back their irrigation system.
- 32:21Do not use number four.
- 32:22It takes the email in a different direction.
- 32:24All right, so the point of this is not to actually write a good email.
- 32:30That will take too long here.
- 32:31So let me just run you now through, once you've got something, some different ways to think about this.
- 32:37So...
- 32:38First, I'm going to have it channel somebody else.
- 32:43Rewrite this email the way Alex Hormozzi would write it and make sure that he knows who my avatar is and he's using my avatar.
- 32:51So I'll just tell you right now,
- 32:53I'll do this just to show you a couple.
- 32:55The problem with using someone like Alex Mosey is, even though I can tell the system to use my avatar and it knows who my avatar is, the problem with using somebody like Alex is, the way he writes and the way he talks, he talks very much to a male audience and he talks to a business audience
- 33:11owner.
- 33:12He also knows who his buyer is.
- 33:15And his buyer is probably someone who already has and who he's talking to is probably someone who already has a fairly successful business that can afford to write a $5,000 check to enter the lowest tier of his world.
- 33:26And I know he is selling a book, but so everything about the way he writes and talks is specific to that kind of, he has a very style.
- 33:35Now, the one thing I do like about Alex and why I did use him here is I don't use
- 33:42examples from him much, but he is excellent at writing very brief.
- 33:47We take something complex and shrink it into a few words, okay?
- 33:51And so it'll simplify the messaging significantly.
- 33:55All right, so that's point number one.
- 33:57So what you might want to do is find a number of people who are really good copywriters, okay?
- 34:05And you figure out what it is that they're really good at.
- 34:09I like Alex just to help me take nine words and make them five.
- 34:15You might use somebody else.
- 34:17It's like I could say...
- 34:19Now rewrite this letter in Gary Halbert's voice, but channel the Bourne letters, not his normal writing.
- 34:29So the reason I did the Bourne letters from Gary Halbert is because he brings you into his writing in a totally different way than Alex or many other people.
- 34:42Okay, so now why would I do this?
- 34:44I would do this not because I'm gonna take their writing and use it, I would do this because I'm just looking for ideas.
- 34:50I'm looking for an angle.
- 34:54So he starts with, I stepped outside this morning and it was already brutal.
- 35:00You know the kind of heat I mean, the kind where you're sweating before you reach the mailbox.
- 35:05Like he brings you into the story, he's a storyteller.
- 35:08So you could use,
- 35:11anybody that's a good writer and you can swipe pieces of their copy, it's not that you'll use the exact paragraph, it'll give you an angle.
- 35:21And then you take all that and you go back and you write your own thing.
- 35:25Or you grab this and you grab, it's like, hey, I want to focus on this angle right here.
- 35:32and help me rewrite it in my voice, in the CityTurf voice.
- 35:36At the end of the day, I'm still writing the email, but I'm trying to find all the best examples.
- 35:42So I might say, hey, channel, give me 10 subject lines from Dan Kennedy, Gary Halbert, John Carlton, Alex Hormozzi.
- 35:53I can keep going.
- 35:55And I'm gonna just look through them and see if I find one that grabs me.
- 35:58And then that's gonna be maybe an angle that I take.
- 36:01Now let's just say I find something that I like, okay?
- 36:07And again, this is, I'm going very quick.
- 36:09I'm going to take this over to, say, ChatGPT.
- 36:12I'm going to record a prompt.
- 36:15Hey, I'm writing an email for CityTurf using my normal avatar.
- 36:19You reference all my guides.
- 36:21And again, we're upselling mulch to our clients.
- 36:26Okay, so...
- 36:28That's pretty lousy.
- 36:29I would not actually record a prompt like that.
- 36:32But, and then I would, oh, one more thing.
- 36:36Here's what I've got so far.
- 36:37I want you to tear it apart.
- 36:40And then I'd go, and then I'd give it a better prompt than that as well, but I'd tell it what I wanted to do.
- 36:44I wanted to, I wanted to challenge me.
- 36:47I wanted to surface new ideas.
- 36:49I wanted to think about what Miss Smith, who's 42 with two kids at home living in this city,
- 36:56She's a stay-at-home mom.
- 36:57How would she feel about it?
- 36:58I'd go into that whole thing, and then I'd have Chachi PT challenge it, okay?
- 37:03So now, and I don't always do all of this, but it points out several ways you could use it.
- 37:08So it's gonna bring back something.
- 37:10So when it brings it back,
- 37:12I oftentimes might just, I'm not even going to read all this because I'm already 17 minutes in here, but when it brings it all back, I might just copy all of this and then I'll go paste it into Claude and I'll say, hey, this is what Chachi Petit said.
- 37:25And then I'll grab from Claude whatever it says and I'll have the two go back and forth.
- 37:41And so basically I'll give them both, I'll just have them go back and forth.
- 37:46So when it gives me an answer here, I'm gonna take it, I'm gonna go back to chat GPT.
- 37:50I'm gonna have them kind of fight it out.
- 37:51Now I interject in the middle to kind of direct them and tell, but I'm trying to surface, I'm trying to get them to fight it out to surface the best ideas.
- 38:00Doesn't mean I'll use it, but I do find it really helps narrow the thinking and it helps me move in the right direction.
- 38:08All right, so again, it's going to come back with something.
- 38:11I'd grab its response, and then I'd paste in ChatGPT, and I'll just make them fight.
- 38:15Okay, so let's move on to just a couple other ideas.
- 38:18So let's say I read the email, and I...
- 38:21We do not want to do any discounting.
- 38:23We need to create a reason why.
- 38:27So help me write this concept.
- 38:30We bought two semis of mulch.
- 38:32We saved 20% by prepaying for the mulch and buying it all at one time.
- 38:36We're passing all of that savings onto our clients.
- 38:40We can do 74 mulch jobs before we run, we're guessing before we run out.
- 38:48Help me write up that angle as a reason why.
- 38:51So again, I'm not going to bother showing you the output.
- 38:55The point here is that this is an example of where you now want to challenge it.
- 39:01Another way you might use it is right now it's writing in our voice.
- 39:05I might tell it, I want you to change the sound and I want you to write in the voice of Sarah in our office.
- 39:11I want to make it sound like it's a female writing to a female.
- 39:15You run through all these scenarios and then what you do is you read them and you find the best...
- 39:22or you merge together a bunch of these ideas and you find the best approach.
- 39:26And then when you kind of get that general structure built, then you have it rewrite it in your voice.
- 39:33That's the gist of the idea.
- 39:35So the takeaway here is,
- 39:38For this to be smart, to get good output, it's not just, hey, give me this thing and then you take it and you mail it.
- 39:44It's just, the copywriting is not good enough.
- 39:47It doesn't convert.
- 39:48It's not your voice.
- 39:50It doesn't sound like you.
- 39:51It's not on brand.
- 39:53It doesn't know your avatar.
- 39:55That's why you need the guides.
- 39:56That's why it needs to learn over time.
- 39:58But the general process is,
- 40:01You might start by just doing a brain dump, getting it down on paper or talking to your AI model, just a complete brain dump of every idea you have.
- 40:10Do you have any previous writing, anything around this topic that you've ever created before?
- 40:15Paste it in, screenshots, uploads, files, doesn't matter.
- 40:20And then you get started and you just run through this process like I ran through.
- 40:24And just try all kinds of different angles until you find what grabs you.
- 40:28And then you start to zero in and then you start to go down that road.
- 40:32And then you challenge aspects of it.
- 40:35You challenge the subject lines.
- 40:37You have it give you lots of examples.
- 40:38You challenge the offer.
- 40:39You challenge the response mechanism.
- 40:41Like you break it down into pieces and you say, give me three alternative ideas to this.
- 40:47What would create the least friction possible to get the response?
- 40:53What would be the dream come outcome for my client?
- 40:56Like you just go through all those and you ask questions.
- 40:59So this is a bit of work.
- 41:00It's not easy.
- 41:02But the general idea is you've got to give it tons of context, tons of examples, iterate, iterate, iterate, have a couple of models fight,
- 41:12with each other, and then what will surface is something that you feel really good about.
- 41:18Have it simplify the language.
- 41:20Write it at an eighth grade level.
- 41:21Write it at a fifth grade level.
- 41:23Any word that does not sound like you and does not sound like your company, do not take it.
- 41:27Change it.
- 41:29Make it yours.
- 41:30And just the idea that we give a very small prompt, we take whatever it gives us, and we just send it, that does not work.
- 41:38It does not convert very well.
- 41:40Yeah, you can knock it out quickly, but to create something...
- 41:44using AI doesn't actually, in my opinion, take less time than if you had done it the old school way and done it yourself.
- 41:52Rather, it takes the same amount of time and sometimes more, but it probably surfaces a better work product.
- 42:00It surfaces better output that might have a better chance of converting.
- 42:04That is more likely to be on brand.
- 42:06It's more likely to use the statements and the phrases and the USP and the thinking of the company.
- 42:13And that's why you use AI.
- 42:15It's not to speed it up.
- 42:16It's to make it better.
- 42:18Context, examples, iterate, fight, challenge, and then refine.
- 42:25That's the model I use.
- 42:27I hope that helps.