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Abrupt Weather Impacts on Gardens [02.01.2025] · Garden America Saturday

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Garden America, the country's most listened to gardening show,
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  Speaker 1: and keeping your yard in tip top shape. Now here
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  Speaker 2: Alrighty, I think we are live, alive, in kicking here
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  Speaker 2: in southern California, San Diego, to be exact, at the
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  Speaker 2: iHeart Studios. Good morning, one and all, good evening, good afternoon.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to Garden America. We are back. We've done our
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  Speaker 2: pre game, We've done our green room activities as it
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  Speaker 2: were here. John Bgnasco, Tiger Palafox, I'm Brian Maine. We
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  Speaker 2: welcome you today. Somebody said, who's your guest? I said,
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  Speaker 2: we have three guests today, you, yourself and I. The
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  Speaker 2: three of us, myself and I we're the guest. Somebody guess, Manny,
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  Speaker 2: Moe and Jack. That wasn't right, Although I'd like to
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  Speaker 2: get them on sometime. That would be interesting.
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  Speaker 3: I think they're dead, if I'm not mistake, but they
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  Speaker 3: have a family, kids and stuff and destroy the studio.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Anyway, hope you had a good week. Here we
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  Speaker 2: are kicking off the weekend.
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  Speaker 3: I thought you were talking about the Three Stooges.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the Pep Boys.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, the Three Stooges.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that would be Mularry and Curly and occasionally shamp
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  Speaker 2: That's funny. I missed that. I missed that. Yeah, the
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  Speaker 2: Pep Boys, Manny, Moe and Jack.
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  Speaker 4: Did they have a show too? No?
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  Speaker 2: I think they had a law firm. What, No, they
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  Speaker 2: were it's pet Boys still around.
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  Speaker 4: No, it is not. I know, I know what Pep
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  Speaker 4: Boys is.
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  Speaker 2: Three little made up characters with mustaches.
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  Speaker 4: Were they made up? They weren't real?
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  Speaker 3: They were real? They were real people. Yeah, I think
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  Speaker 3: they were. Weren't they brothers or relatives?
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  Speaker 4: I guess they owned auto parts slash like.
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  Speaker 2: Repairs, kind of like Tom Dick and Harry.
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  Speaker 4: Who's that? I mean I've heard that term before.
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  Speaker 2: That would be like, uh, you act like every Tom
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  Speaker 2: Dick and Harry? Right?
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  Speaker 4: Is that just a term? A term like doesn't everybody
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  Speaker 4: There's not a real Tom digg and Harry.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure there are, but just not to get in
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  Speaker 2: the same place.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, Tom Dick and Harry to Tiger is probably like
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  Speaker 3: twenty three Skardo would be tough.
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  Speaker 2: Now, twenty three Skoodoo was our No, that's that's my
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  Speaker 2: parents generation.
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  Speaker 4: That's what he's saying.
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  Speaker 2: It was that so trickling down.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, like like you heard twenty three Skardo and
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  Speaker 4: and like I say, like I've heard Tom Dick and
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  Speaker 4: Harry before, but I don't know what.
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  Speaker 2: It means Dosie dots and married and dams know and.
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  Speaker 3: Little Lambsey Divy. Yeah you little Lambsey divy Kittly divy too,
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  Speaker 3: wouldn't you something like?
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  Speaker 2: So that's where John has a few mill years.
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  Speaker 4: So I I you know, it's funny that you talk
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  Speaker 4: about this. I know, hey, and welcome to guard in
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  Speaker 4: America everybody.
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  Speaker 2: It's just what show is this? I got to turn
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  Speaker 2: my dark here.
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  Speaker 4: But it's super funny because I am currently going through
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  Speaker 4: that moment in time where talking with my kids and
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  Speaker 4: finding out how aged I really am. You know, I
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  Speaker 4: mean just the other day, I mean, you know, you
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  Speaker 4: guys know who justin Timberlake is absolutely right? You know
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  Speaker 4: who he is? John, Yeah, lumber Chet.
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  Speaker 2: He's been around for like thirty years.
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  Speaker 5: Right, he was.
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  Speaker 4: He came on the radio the other day and Isaac's like,
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  Speaker 4: who's this? I go, it's Justin Timberlake. He's like, who's that.
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  Speaker 4: You don't know who Justin Timberlake is. He's like, no,
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  Speaker 4: don't know who just was he?
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  Speaker 2: Was he New Kids on the Block or was he
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  Speaker 2: the other one?
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  Speaker 4: He was in sync?
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  Speaker 2: In sync?
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  Speaker 4: Okay, I think New Kids on the Block was before.
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  Speaker 4: Really that was that was like when we were small children.
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  Speaker 2: To me, that's that's after I was already adult, grown, working,
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  Speaker 2: you know.
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  Speaker 4: I think it went New Kids on the Block, Backstreet Boys,
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  Speaker 4: and then back three Boys.
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  Speaker 2: There you go, I think, I think, yeah, I'm just
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  Speaker 2: looking to see if somebody on Facebook is just corrected
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  Speaker 2: chiming in.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, as slugs, you're talking about generational things,
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  Speaker 3: and Tiger, You've mentioned this to me before about how
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  Speaker 3: garden clubs you thought were dying out, yes, and that
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  Speaker 3: nobody was going to them. But I'm wondering if this
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  Speaker 3: is just my perception because of my involvement with rose societies.
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  Speaker 3: But I see younger people beginning to join, people in
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  Speaker 3: their thirties joining. I don't know about regular garden cubs,
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  Speaker 3: but a lot of rose societies all of a sudden.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree. I think that there's a new influx
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  Speaker 4: of people that are interested in the subjects. You know,
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  Speaker 4: whether it be roses or plumeria or orchids or romeliads
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  Speaker 4: or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: Things do come full cycle. And I got to give
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  Speaker 2: YouTube a lot of credit for being having access. People
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  Speaker 2: can can log on, they can see things, they can
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  Speaker 2: learn things, and they'll come across a lot of things
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  Speaker 2: by mistake, they.
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  Speaker 5: Go what what is this?
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  Speaker 2: What that's kind of cool? Is that what roses or whatever? Whatever?
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  Speaker 2: What rose is that? Or whatever? Plant? Right, whatever topic
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  Speaker 2: or subject. Like with my son Eric, you know, when
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  Speaker 2: he got a little older, I would talk about something
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  Speaker 2: historical and he'd say, well what was that like? And oh,
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  Speaker 2: let's go to YouTube. I can probably bring up a video,
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  Speaker 2: you know, well, here are the Beatles at Shaye Stadium
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  Speaker 2: in nineteen sixty five. At that time it was the
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  Speaker 2: largest concert venue ever and they were the first group
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  Speaker 2: to play a stadium and he could actually watch it.
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  Speaker 4: Well, and I really, you know, applaud those people that
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  Speaker 4: do come out for the garden clothes because, you know,
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  Speaker 4: to what Brian's saying, and a lot there's a lot
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  Speaker 4: of resources out there, but I will say in person,
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  Speaker 4: meeting with someone who has a passion for whatever it
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  Speaker 4: is that you maybe share a passion for is way
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  Speaker 4: more valuable than a YouTube video right online tutorial.
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  Speaker 3: Or probably way more correct.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and then not only just correct, but correct you,
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  Speaker 4: because that's the thing is we all we've talked about
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  Speaker 4: this before where I mean, even us, we're talking about gardening.
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  Speaker 4: We live in San Diego. You have great knowledge. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: you know, John, you moved all across the country and
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  Speaker 4: have gardened, you know, all over I grew up in
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  Speaker 4: San Diego, so my familiarity with gardening is southern California.
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  Speaker 4: People that are in Texas and Florida and you know,
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  Speaker 4: Wisconsin and Michigan and other places might listen to the program.
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  Speaker 4: Be like, those guys don't know what they're talking about, right,
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  Speaker 4: But it's just because we're familiar with who we are
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  Speaker 4: and what we have to work with here.
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  Speaker 2: My point was that that YouTube is a tickler. It
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  Speaker 2: can gain your interest and then you seek somebody out. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: then you go, you know what, I want to look
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  Speaker 2: into this a little more, and I absolutely agree. Getting
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  Speaker 2: one on one, like we talked about before, the show
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  Speaker 2: and then gaining interest, and then and then that person
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  Speaker 2: tells somebody else, and there you go. And perhaps you
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  Speaker 2: do have a situation where people are back doing things
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  Speaker 2: that everyone used to do.
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  Speaker 3: Tanya mentions that. Tanya in San Jose mentions that the
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  Speaker 3: Cactus and Succulent Clubs are doing really well. All right, yeah, sure, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you know in San Diego. She says, it's got the
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  Speaker 3: big convention coming up. Oh, April twenty third, what.
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  Speaker 4: Is what is Is it a society convention? Do you
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  Speaker 4: know what it is?
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  Speaker 3: It's the she says, the Cactus and Succulent Club of America.
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  Speaker 4: WHOA, that sounds big. It's it's in America.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, quite as big, are we?
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  Speaker 4: How are we not involved with that?
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  Speaker 2: Well?
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  Speaker 3: Maybe we should be there. Yeah, I likely did the
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  Speaker 3: Plumerius Society.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Where's it going to?
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  Speaker 3: Beroe?
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  Speaker 1: Oh?
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  Speaker 3: Belboa Park? Seriously, Well, the last time I went, I
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  Speaker 3: was in Bilboa Park, so I'm pretty sure that it's there.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of Cactus and Succulent Society. Uh, Biennial Convention,
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  Speaker 3: San Diego, America.
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  Speaker 2: Boy, you can really get into do a deep dive
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  Speaker 2: with cactus and succulents. John, You ought to write a book,
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  Speaker 2: or be part of a book that broaches that subject.
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  Speaker 3: Country a book on the subject. Two of them.
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  Speaker 4: No, it's coming to San Diego twenty seven.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's weird.
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  Speaker 4: That's Monday working on it right now.
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  Speaker 2: That's a wow. Not just a day or two. Five days.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, these people are serious. Well, not only that,
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  Speaker 3: there's the greatest selection of cactus and succulents to buy.
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  Speaker 3: You might even buy it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, see this is it you most people have, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the basics. Cactus here, succulent there. Then you go to
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  Speaker 2: a convention like this and you do a deep dive
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  Speaker 2: and you say, really, that's a cactus. That's a succulent.
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  Speaker 2: I can grow that like like you say, you're going
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  Speaker 2: to see things you've never seen before.
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  Speaker 3: Right, they probably have. I'm just guessing, but I'm pretty
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  Speaker 3: sure they have seminars at the same time.
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  Speaker 2: We should do a show from there, if it would
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  Speaker 2: be fine.
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  Speaker 4: To the mission Valley Marriott.
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  Speaker 2: Oh all right, and it's okay, five days. I assume
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  Speaker 2: it would start at the end of the week and
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  Speaker 2: go through the weekend. Do the other dates on there.
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  Speaker 2: I know that's the twenties, But what other.
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  Speaker 3: Thing we need to do? A Saturday. That's what you're saying.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, the Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sun Saturday, Saturday Sunday,
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  Speaker 4: April twenty sixth is the Saturday.
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  Speaker 2: There we go.
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  Speaker 4: All right, there'll be uh man. They got a ton
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  Speaker 4: of stuff happening.
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  Speaker 3: You know. Thursday I spoke at the Delmar Rose Society.
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  Speaker 3: The topic was roses around the world, the prospect of
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  Speaker 3: saving rose varieties in the twenty first century.
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  Speaker 2: How did you remember all that?
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  Speaker 3: That wasn't the speech that I gave. That was just
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  Speaker 3: the title.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, I thought, how did you just remember that?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, to recall that, I don't. In fact,
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  Speaker 2: I couldn't even repeat what you just said.
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  Speaker 3: I think I'm going to give it. There was some
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  Speaker 3: people there from the San Diego Rose Society, and they
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  Speaker 3: asked me to give it to them in March, So
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  Speaker 3: I'll be redoing it in March. As a matter of fact, I.
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  Speaker 2: Was You're like a comedian who goes from town to town,
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  Speaker 2: city by city, tells the same jokes, but but repackages
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  Speaker 2: them for the for the audience.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I give a lot of talks to rose societies,
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  Speaker 3: and you think that you know, one rose society is
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  Speaker 3: going to be similar to another. If you if I
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  Speaker 3: went blindfolded to the del Mar Rose Society, I would
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  Speaker 3: have realized I was somewhere different because it's the only
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  Speaker 3: place I've ever been where they offered champagne when you walked.
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  Speaker 2: This must be wow.
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  Speaker 5: Hey.
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  Speaker 2: On that note, we're going to take a break now.
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  Speaker 2: Normally we get all of our guests during the first, first,
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  Speaker 2: and second segments here during the break, but alast no
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  Speaker 2: guest this week. It is us all the way through
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  Speaker 2: the show. Welcoming those on BIS Talk Radio. Thank you
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  Speaker 2: for tuning in. I'm Brian Main, John Begnasco Tucket, Pelafox.
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  Speaker 2: Our first break for BIS Talk Radio Facebook Live. This
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  Speaker 2: is Garden America.
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  Speaker 6: Welcome back to the Garden America Radio Show with Brian,
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  Speaker 6: John and Tiger.
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  Speaker 2: Alrighty, we are back from the break. Thank you to
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  Speaker 2: are the streaming in digital outlets that you're so familiar with.
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  Speaker 2: John Pandora, Spotify, Google, Alexa will play the latest rootle
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  Speaker 2: I heard. It just goes on and on and on
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  Speaker 2: on and on and on. So we'll get to look
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  Speaker 2: into the that convention, the uh Cactus and the Succulent convention.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I should do a book signing there.
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  Speaker 2: Why not? Yeah, bring your books intentem.
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  Speaker 4: Any book, any book. I'll sign any of your books.
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  Speaker 2: Who are you anyway?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if my books are and Cactus
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  Speaker 3: and Succulents. I think they're more basic people who go there,
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  Speaker 3: I think, Uh.
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  Speaker 2: I see what you're saying. But you know what, there's newbies.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's true, there's newbies. When I when I
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  Speaker 3: talked to del Marrose Society, there was a woman who said,
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  Speaker 3: this is my first meeting. Actually she was from India,
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  Speaker 3: but she lived in Delmar now and she said it
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  Speaker 3: was her first meeting and she only had ten roses,
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  Speaker 3: but she wanted to learn.
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  Speaker 2: See, yeah, you got to start someplace. Lenora likes the
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  Speaker 2: flowers in the newsletter?
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  Speaker 3: Whose flower was that?
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  Speaker 2: Which one? Oh?
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  Speaker 3: Maybe yours?
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  Speaker 2: You asked me? Which this is the one that you
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  Speaker 2: gave me in a little.
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  Speaker 3: This was a while ago though, because I gave you
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  Speaker 3: a new one for Christmas and it was not that one.
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  Speaker 2: No, that one's still small.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, this one I gave you was the kalalily called
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  Speaker 3: green Goddess.
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  Speaker 2: And it was in a little teeny pot. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 2: I should have taken I should have stood back in
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  Speaker 2: and taken a picture of the whole thing.
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  Speaker 3: It's should have done a timeline.
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  Speaker 2: It's huge. It's this thing is taken off because I
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  Speaker 2: transplanted it, put in a big party.
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  Speaker 3: It looks like somebody took a paint brush green paint
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  Speaker 3: and just painted the end of the flower.
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  Speaker 2: You suggested, you said, now when you transplant it, you
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  Speaker 2: suggested soil, which I contemplated for a while and thought,
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  Speaker 2: you know what, let me give this a shot. He
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  Speaker 2: seems to know what he's talking about. Bless you, by
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  Speaker 2: the way. You can't get away from that. That has
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  Speaker 2: to be acknowledged. Yeah, you didn't hide that anyway.
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  Speaker 3: You're not one of those people that just throws those
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  Speaker 3: blesses around either. No, you really mean it.
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  Speaker 2: I gazoon height. What was that in Seinfeld? Instead of saying,
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  Speaker 2: you know, God, bless you, you're so good look good looking.
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  Speaker 2: And if that was the case, people would sneeze more
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  Speaker 2: so people are probably wondering as we are, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Second segment into the show, What is it you guys
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  Speaker 2: are going to talk about today? What did the newsletter?
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  Speaker 2: Is it your birthday?
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  Speaker 4: My birthday?
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  Speaker 3: Why are you picked up a gift from your dad?
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  Speaker 4: I don't know. Oh is there a message?
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  Speaker 3: Well, a message from Mission Hill's nursery. It says, good morning, guys, tigers,
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  Speaker 3: stopped by the day to pick up a gift from
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  Speaker 3: your dad.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe he just wants to give me a gift.
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  Speaker 2: The gift could be an invoice, Yeah, a bill build.
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  Speaker 3: Speaking of bills, am I scheduled yet or not worked
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  Speaker 3: into the schedule.
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  Speaker 4: I'm still working on it, man, still working on it.
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  Speaker 4: Well by March, right, that's what that's your deadline?
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  Speaker 3: No, no, no, there's no deadline. No, but whatever works out,
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  Speaker 3: it would be nice.
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  Speaker 2: But oh you have the work done at your place?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the beautifuls of the wedding coming up?
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  Speaker 4: His beautification project. It's fun, that's f fun, fun.
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  Speaker 3: It's fun planting now because the soil we had a
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  Speaker 3: little bit of rain soft and after the first rain
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  Speaker 3: we had, we had two rains. Right, Yeah, the first rain,
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  Speaker 3: I went out there and tried to dig with the
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  Speaker 3: shovel and I got down half an inch.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, could you is checked in from Michigan.
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  Speaker 3: It's my brother.
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  Speaker 2: H it's been a while, It has been a while.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Nice.
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  Speaker 3: So the second rain, he's going to be out here
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  Speaker 3: in March coming yessuh, my brother and sister law.
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  Speaker 2: For the wet for the wedding. That he's the tiger's
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  Speaker 2: doing the work to beautify.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe he'll pitch in. My brother's a great do
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  Speaker 3: it yourself for.
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  Speaker 4: What were we talking about? Oh so the second rain?
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  Speaker 4: You got your first ring got down a half an inch.
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  Speaker 3: Half an inch. The second one I could get down
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  Speaker 3: a full shovel.
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  Speaker 4: Oh nice.
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  Speaker 3: So that and I put in a little bit. Of
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  Speaker 3: the reason this is exciting to me is that because
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  Speaker 3: I've I've planned probably fifteen roses in the last few days,
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  Speaker 3: only got one more gofer. But that puts me at
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  Speaker 3: sixty five. Where am I going with this?
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  Speaker 5: Oh?
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  Speaker 3: Planting, I usually every thing that was planted on that
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  Speaker 3: hill had to be with a jackhammer. Before this time,
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  Speaker 3: everything I could work with the shovel. And I think
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  Speaker 3: it's because I let all the weeds grow on the
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: hill and the roots went in and.
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: Broke started breaking everything aboard.
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: And no, there is there is a lot of fun
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: isn't it lose?
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: It is cool, it's cool, but I have a lot
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: of really rare you know, I think we lose. People
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: would rather hear us talk about about old records and
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: sayings than they would about roses sometimes the way I feel,
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: because I just get into the weeds when we talk
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: about roses. Sometimes literally too. But anyway, there's a Australia's
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: most famous rose breeder was Alistair Clark in the twenties
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: and thirties. I just talked about him last couple weeks,
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: I think we did. Yeah, And there was a great
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: collection of his roses at Wisconsin Garden, and one of
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: the volunteers brought me cut in. And I have enough
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: now to where the one trellis area that I have,
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: the one pergola, can be covered completely with Alistair Clark
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: climbing roses. So I've got that. And then there's a
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: whole bunch of bush roses. So I'm thinking that one
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: whole area might be Australian roses.
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: The section from down Under, yeah.
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it is if you look at my property,
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: it is the section that's down under right south of
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: the equator. As people say, I don't know about south
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: of the equator. I think there's still north of the equator.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: No, but figuratively, Oh you mean for them?
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: Yes, okay, I got it.
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: Now, are there any native roses to Australia? No, No, right,
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: they've all been There's.
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: No roses native to the southern hemisphere.
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I think you remember you said, y, yeah.
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: All roses are question northern hemisphere. Wait speaking again, often attention,
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: but it's okay, we spoke. Do you remember I think
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: you were involved? Maybe not, depends tell the story. I'll
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: tell you if I was like, Okay, well it was
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: years ago, years and years ago, and when we used
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: to do do trivia questions on air. Okay, so I'm
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: with you so far, okay. And we did a trivia
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: question where everyone had a part of a script to read,
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: and we had Bert Senior did a part, and and
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: we had several people do parts of this trivia question
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: and it was who done it? Trivia question? And you
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: had to find out who the killer was to when
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: the the thing And there was an expedition going on
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: in Africa and the one person everybody came in and
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: told their story of where they were when the murder
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: was committed. And one of the researchers on the trips
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: said that he was he had been caught on a
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: cactus as they were exploring the African wilderness, and so
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: there was no way that he could get back for
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: their meeting in time. And that's when the guy was killed.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: And he says, well, it couldn't have been me because
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: I was stuck on a cactus. So you hear all
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: these different excuses people have, and you say who's the killer?
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: And it turned out to be the guy that said
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: he was stuck on a cactus because there were no cactus.
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: He was going to say, native to the old world.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: It is break time. Maybe some more stories coming up.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: John harkenback if you would, Hey, whatever's on your mind?
• 19:38
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• 19:42
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• 19:43
  Speaker 2: a break. Brian Me and John Big Nascar, Tiger Pealafox.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: Here it is Guarding America. A happy weekend. Back after this.
• 19:49
  Speaker 6: Mission, Welcome back to the Garden America Radio show with Brian,
• 20:15
  Speaker 6: John and Tiger.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: Okay, we trust you had a good break. Those on
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: the BIS Talk Radio a bit longer. Thank you for
• 20:21
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• 20:25
  Speaker 2: this text that says, when is John going to do
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: the quote of the week? Funny you should ask, and
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: funny you should text at this time because he's going
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: to do it right.
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: Now, Brian. The quote is from Ruth Stout who I
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: don't believe was but anyway, she is a garden writer.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: Stout right, I'm with you.
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: And she said, there's a privacy about winter which no
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: other season gives you. In spring, summer, and fall, people
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: sort of have an open season on each other. It's
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: only in the winter in the country can you have
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: longer quiet stretches when you can savor belonging to yourself.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: That it's a paragraph.
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: It was good though.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well she's right, you know, the time of reflection.
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: And did we talk about this on air or just
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: behind the scenes last week when I was talking to
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: you guys about the Twilight Zone and how I've seen
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: a shift in generations where there was that theme of
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: loneliness in Twilight Zone and that's scared to be alone
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: and scared to be you know, deprived of social interaction,
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: and almost feel like we've shifted where I think more
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: people are looking to be removed. Like I feel that
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: I get you yea, Like I feel that quote is that,
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: you know, embracing the loneliness kind of a thing that
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: I feel like our generation almost looks for more like.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: They can never be alone, you know, just like you
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: know I wish I could be alone for a while. Yeah,
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: he's want any more input from Mariwaves.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Here's something to contemplate to speaking of social changes, pop culture, whatever.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: So the telephone was invented what mid eighteen hundreds more
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: or less telephone, late eighteen.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: Hundreds, Alexander Graham, Belle.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: Right, come here, I need you so Yeah, so we've
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: had the ability to speak to somebody over the phone.
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Now one hundred, one hundred and fifty years later, now
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: we can text. Everybody's texting. I don't want to call it,
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: just text. It's a lot easier. Yeah, suppose that was different.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: Suppose they came up with texting back in the eighteen
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: hundreds and you couldn't talk to anybody for one hundred years,
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: and all of a sudden they said, hey, you can
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: pick up the phone and talk to somebody. Really, I
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: can talk to them. Don't you think that I think
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: people would be more excited about that.
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: What came out before first? Was it the telegraph or
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: the phone?
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: Marconi was first.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: Marconi was first.
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: That was a telegraph.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: I think that was a well you then, but you've
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: got like a Morse code which they used back.
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: But that's what I'm saying. No, didn't like a telegraph.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: Well that's on the Titanic and all those old ships
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: would communicate with each other. Was to a degree. But
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: you get my point.
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: Now, he went backwards.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: I remember it in nineteen ruining your story. Yeah, yeah,
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: you know what he's doing. He's he's picking up at
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: parts so we can do a deep dive. And he's
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: creating thinkers out of this room, is what he's doing.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: But but it's like I remember as a kid going
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: to Disneyland and Pacific Bell had a what do you
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: want to call it? A room all set up yeah, okay,
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: and they had picture phones and this is like early sixties,
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: and they would let you like pick it up and
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: see somebody. But it was it was different. It wasn't
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: like computers, completely different technology. And we're like, man, a
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: few years there'll be picture phones and you can actually
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: see somebody. Well that never happened for another.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: I remember my dad telling me when I was a
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: little boy. He would always go, you know, someday they're
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: going to have a phone and you can see who
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: you're talking, right, It's just you know, how can it
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: be somebody has to turn on their TV? How is
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: this going to work?
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: You go ahead.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Is there a question he's gonna tie this into gardening somehow?
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: You want? No?
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: I was gonna mention that Paula, one of our faithful listeners,
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: said that Ruth Stout did a wonderful movie of her
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: garden and she and Paula shared it with her New
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: York friends. They had a great party. Yeah wow hmm.
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: So to her quote, I have a question for our listeners,
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: and I have a question for you guys in the.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: Room solitude, being alone, all that and gardening.
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: Okay, would you rather because honestly, this is a this
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: is a special relationship. And I'm saying this is almost
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: above like a marriage to me, somebody that you could
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: garden with in the same garden, meaning you know, like
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: Janine and I we have our areas. She works in
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: the house, I work out of the house.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: I got it.
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: If she was to come outside and start putting her
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: input on what and how and why it.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: Would irritate you.
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: Yes, I know that, and so and so are there
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: are there couples out there that do garden well together?
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: And and you know that is a that is a
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: special relationship because when I'm gardening, when I'm out there working,
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: I have my own path, my own way that I'm
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: doing things, and and it's easy for me because I
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: make a decision and whether it's A to C two
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: D back to B two end and Z, that's fine.
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: I don't want someone out there being like, well if
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: you did it this way, this way.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: This way, but your decisions are based upon knowledge and
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: previous experience, you know.
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: But I'm just saying in general, like so you're.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: Saying it would be like if he went in the
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: house in the middle of Janine making dinner and started
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: adding yes, yes exactly.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I go.
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: So, you know, are there couples out there that do
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: garden together?
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: And how does that work out? Even Claire Rlinger.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: I thought your question was going to be of anybody
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: in history that you could garden with, the famous person
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: who would you like to guard be? That That's where
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: I thoughts were going, and that's another one too. We
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: can contemplate that's a good anybody in history are alive
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: or passed on, who would you garden with?
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: Well, now that you bring that up, Carlo's.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: Got a question too, by the.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: Way, Well that's this pertains to Carla's question because you
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: said anyone in history. And then I'm thinking about the
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: parable that Jesus had of the fig.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: The fig tree. I knew you were going.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: And Carla has a question about figs.
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: Okay, So.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: We go from the Bible to Carla and transition. Yeah,
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: she's looking to put a fig tree in a pot,
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: and the pots the size of a half barrel, perfect,
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: and it might be a little bit smaller. But she's
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: wondering or she's considering little miss Figgy okay, or phigenomenal yep.
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: And she's also seen Viollette Bordeaux recently, which is an
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: older one, and she wants thoughts or advice on what
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: to choose.
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: Well, I've had it, I have experience with phignomenal and
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: I like it. So I've got I've got no negative.
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: And it would probably be good for that size container.
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: Yes, So I have no negative things to say about phenomenal.
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: Little miss Figy. I have not grown, but I've seen it.
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: I know, I know about it, and I don't think
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: I have a negative against that. Besides that, maybe if
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: I'm comparing the flavors to Phenomenal to Little Miss Figgie, again,
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: I like phgnomenal, so but I haven't tried little Miss Figgy.
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: Do you know anything about that one?
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: Not about the flavor. But I think that the Violetta
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: Bordeaux is is phenomenal flavor.
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: Uh huh.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: And but it's going to be larger than the other two.
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: Oh okay, still a dwarf, especially compared to a Miss
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: black Vision.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: It's going to be a huge tree.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: But all of them I think would do in the
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: container phenomenal and and miss little Miss Figy may last
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: for more years than that container. But I think I
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: always me I'd go with Violettro Budeaux.
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: And I mean the thing about figs too is number one,
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: they're like low quats in the sense of the production
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: is just always through the roof.
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: Well also like low coots, and the fact that you
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: don't see them very often in supermarket. Yeah, so because
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: they don't ship.
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, like to get them, like you have to
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: be very seasonal or a farmer's market or something like that.
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: But so so they produce so so even a small
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: tree is going to produce enough for a family. But
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: then the other thing too is that they take to
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: pruning well, meaning you can control its size really easily
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: and still have good production, still have a good sized plant.
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: So you know, yeah, try how do you say, Violetta
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: de Bordeaux, filette Fiolette du du Bordeaux, Bordeaux, Violette du Duh,
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: duh duh Brian Bordeaux. But try it because you know,
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: even if it is going to get a little bit bigger, it.
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: Can be like a heritage fig. You know, a lot
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: of those heritage fruits have some of the best flavor.
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: And the reason why, you know, like we talked about
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: this with the avocado, the reason why they maybe haven't
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: become more popular isn't because of the flavor or anything.
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: It's because they don't ship well like you say, or
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: you know, they don't package or they don't know.
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: Those are the kind of things you should grow, yeah,
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: things because you can't can't normally get you know, sometimes
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: you think, like apples, I will see apples, you know,
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: I will every day of the year.
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: I will say, though, Carla, I highly recommend planting it
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: in a cactus mix because I found that, especially in
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: the wintertime, the figs will rot in a in a
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: heavy potting soil. Even so, but I mean, at the
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: same time, if you're not a good waterer, they do
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: they do love water.
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: And also don't you think as the roots fill out
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: the container that that's not as much of a problem, right,
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: because it's not going to hold as much. Well, I'm
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: not going to hold as much I want to, you know.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: I guess it depends where you are. Carla is on
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: the coast, and so they're going to dry out. Uh,
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: we're gonna pointing at me.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: I know we're gonna take you're pointing at me. Hey
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: a break for BIS Talk Radio back after these messages.
• 31:00
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• 31:16
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• 31:19
  Speaker 6: John and Tiger.
• 31:21
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• 31:26
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• 31:28
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• 31:31
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• 31:33
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• 31:39
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• 31:41
  Speaker 3: John the uh talking about figs.
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: You were were you real quick because you didn't finish
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: the soil.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the soil thing.
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I was going to say, on the soil
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: at least where I am. Excuse me. I would never
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: use straight cactus micks, but I might mix pear light
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: or something. No, I might mix cactus s mick s
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: with potting.
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: Soil something like that.
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but you probably should improve the drainage. Yeah, but
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: but again, the difference is gonna be where are you,
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: And how you water?
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: You know, because like we talked about, like if you're
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: a if you're a good waterer, you have to have
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: something more draining because you don't want to overwater things.
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: If you're a bad waterer, you don't mind the heavy
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: soils that hold moisture because you're not going to water
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: as frequent.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: Picture in my mind just came up with somebody in
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: a fire hose. That would be a bad water blasting, Yeah,
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: knocking things over.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: You're a bad waterer, A very bad waterer.
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: So did someone ask about how to prune?
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was Veronica.
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so, I mean, you know, it's it's obviously the
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: time of year for us since othern California to do
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: a lot of our pruning with the dormant things. And
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: you know, the first place to start is any dead
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: or broken branches or crossing branches, you know, we you
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: know a number one dead is because you're removing excess
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: growth or you know, plant energy, you know, or work
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: broken again for the same thing, or just damaged areas.
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: And then crossing is you're you're preventing areas on the
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: plant to get wounds. You know, anytime you have a
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: crossing branch there, you're opening it up to rub up
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: against each other during a wind or just normal normal growth,
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: and then you can have a wound develop which will
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: open yourself up for like disease or a broken branch
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: or an entangled or choked off branch. So you know,
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: you start with those first. And then you know, just
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: for figs, prune to shape. You know, they respond pretty
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: well to you know, prune to shape.
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: Take it if you prune them this time of year, though,
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: figs usually have two crops right, and you might be
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: pruning off some of the first crop, but they do
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: fruit on new wood too, so I would say, like
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: you're saying, just prune one whatever you need to. It's
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: you can let them grow as big as you want.
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: Veronica in Spring Valley mentioned she has a blackjack fig
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: in a pot, and do you remember blackjacks? It might
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: be a little bit before your time, but Blackjack was
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: touted as the first dwarf fig even though it was
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: and when you plant blackjack on the ground, it gets
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: to be twenty feet tall. And I would never.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: Dwarf by what standards.
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I would never say that was a dwarf. And
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: fast growing too, figs.
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: Figs are very fast.
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well blackjack would grow fast. The reason I guess
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: it was a dwarf. It would grow fast to twenty feet.
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: And stop that ideal plant.
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but anyway, Veronica has hers in a container, so
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: maybe in a container it would uh control the size, yeah,
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: control it a little bit. So I don't know, you know,
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: talking about the couples work gardening together, you got a
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: lot a lot of response on Facebook.
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah.
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: Lisa says that she like she works well with her
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: husband because she directs them napole, wave, trim trees.
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, gives them a checklist of things to do.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it.
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: Are there some more commons?
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: Well she doesn't trust them. No water really yeah? Really wow.
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: Watering is a it is a big deal. I mean,
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: you know the way that you water things and it's
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: your garden. It's I've I've had the horror stories of
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: people coming. Oh I went away and I had somebody
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: water the garden for me, and it's just like, for
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: some reason, it's just not the same as when you
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: water right.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: Not at all, and because well you know what it's like.
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: But I mean we're talking people that garden, you know,
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: we're talking people that do guard.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: But if you drop your kids off with the babysitter,
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: they become the quote unquote parents for two hours.
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's gonna be a little different there.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: They're still there, they're still doing what they should do,
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: but not the way you would do it. And I
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: get the watering thing. I know exactly what needs water,
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: what doesn't need water. I know how much to give
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: a certain plant and other plants like you know what
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: you're not ready to water yet where somebody would come
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: by and just water everything. Yeah, unless you gave him
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: a detailed list, and then they just go crazy and go,
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: you know, I'm just gonna water everything because I can't remember. Yeah,
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: this makes no sense to me.
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: Lyla mentions that when her and her husband gardened, that
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: he digs the hole and she picks the flowers.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go.
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: Nice. I had a conversation to what John was saying
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: earlier with the dwarf, and this is I cannot stand,
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: you know, mass merchant gardening stuff. I had somebody come
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: to me and they were like, oh, no, I got
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: a dwarf haas avocado and I was like, that doesn't
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: that doesn't exist.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no such thing.
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: They're like, no, no, no, it says it on the label.
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: I picked it up, you know whatever, and it's a
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: dwarf host. I'm like that that doesn't exist, like you
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: know what I mean, like, yeah, there is no dwarf
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: because they go they or like when people tell me
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: about the citrus and they go, no, no, this is
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: a this is a.
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: Dwarf, true dwarf.
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: This is a true dwarf, right exactly. And I'm like, no, no, no,
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: that doesn't that doesn't exist.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: But it says on the tag.
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: It's either a semi dwarf or it's a standard. And
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: I go in and even the semi dwarf is only
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: like eighty percent of a standard citrus height, you know. So,
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: and they have this perception because they go to these
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: places and they see these tags, and these tags sell
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: them on this Oh this little cute, little one gallon
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: cum quat that's fruiting and it's a dwarf tree. They
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: think it's going to stay that way. It's like, no, no, no,
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: that is going to turn into a tree.
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: Well, you know the deceptive part about that is there
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: there are dwarf citrus, oh yeah, and uh they're on
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: flying dragon rootstock and they'll only get to be six
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: feet tall. But nobody grows on flying dragon rootstock because
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: it takes so long to produce a plant. So you've
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: got people putting out tags that are on semi dwarf
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: ruit stocks and they are called true to dwarfs, and
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: they're not true dwarf.
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: No, no, yeah, they're lying dwarfs exactly. Yeah. So I
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: mean when when he told me, he's like, oh no,
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: it's a it's a haas avocado. That's dwarf. I go no, no, no,
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: like that. You know you've got little coddo, you got Mexico,
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: you got these other fritis.
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: But there is no holiday is a good one, yeah, holiday,
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: but I go there.
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: Is no dwarf.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: Hoss.
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: It's it's not part of that.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: It's so deceptive when when people that have little knowledge
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: go into stores like that and unless they talk to
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: somebody like you, what happens, you know, six months down
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: the road when they're like, hey, this tag says this
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: was a what it?
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: Or I mean was it mislabeled? Yeah, you know, maybe
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: it was miss labeled.
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, No, you're so right, Like it's not even six months.
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: Sometimes it's less than that. Well or no, sometimes it's
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: three years. They planted that way, they planted that avocado
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: next to their house because they thought it was a dwarf.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: We got to take a break.
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: Al right.
• 39:15
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• 39:18
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• 40:22
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• 40:24
  Speaker 2: A shout out always you can always depend on his dom. Yeah,
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: you know, talk about being part of the inner tribe.
• 40:29
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• 40:32
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• 40:37
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• 40:39
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• 40:42
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• 40:44
  Speaker 3: mentioned this story on the radio a few times, but
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: that I met the president of the Betty White fan club.
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: Oh I remember you did share this story.
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a while back.
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well it was that a rose auction.
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: No, no, it wasn't it a rose auction. It was
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: uh at the Armstrong Nursery in Torrance, and I forget
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: what I was doing there, but they came up to
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: me and mentioned they wanted to name a rose after
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: Betty White, and is there any way that I could
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: help them? So items like a natural Yeah. Well, at
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: the time I had a lot of influence over rose
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: growers because I was one of their largest accounts.
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: So they'll name it, They'll name it anything.
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: Well, actually they did, yeah exactly, And eventually they even
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: paid me to name roses.
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: Is it Is it a white rose?
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: It is white with a soft pink blow, but yeah,
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: it was white. This kind of seems natural, right, Yeah,
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: so star ros Is. It was part of the Romanica
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: series and they were already going to put it out
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: and name it something else. And when I suggested Betty White,
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: they immediately went to Betty White because the name they
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: were going to use was White Romantica.
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Betty Boop, Betty Boop rose.
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: Remember there is a Betty boot pros exactly. I think
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: that was I'm not positive, but I think it was
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: the first rose named after a cartoon. No way, really,
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: I think Stetty Boop.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: So now I'm thinking of all the cartoons out there
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: that have roses named after them. Is there olive oil?
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: Well, there is. Pertoli's is the one that we usually use.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: You know, what you can tell people that have been
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: in radio or media or what we do because you
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: can't get a straight answer out of anybody. Everything's a joke,
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: everything's material, you know, everything's got something behind it.
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: Carla was looking for a dwarf avocado for a pot,
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: and we mentioned some of the names, but maybe we
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: should mention the characteristics of holiday because some of them
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: I think, well might stay a little shorter than Holiday.
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: But Holiday is great for a container. And it's kind
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: of weeping. I like that appearance, even if you put
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: it in the ground. The fact that it's weeping means
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: that the fruits usually within real lower. Yeah. And it's
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: called holiday because it begins to ripen Labor Day and
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: goes all the way through Christmas. So that that's one
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: I would recommend. The other you mentioned was little Kado,
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: which is good, but sometimes am I correct on this?
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: Sometimes it's alternate bearing, right, Yeah, Yeah, so you might
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: only get you know, a good crop every other year. Yeah,
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: So I'd go with holiday and holidays.
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: The fruit size is really you know, good on it. Yeah, well, yeah,
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: you know where the little coddo in the Mexico they
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: actually usually have smaller fruits.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: All right, this just came to mind. So next week
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: is the Super Bowl. Yes, isn't that like one of
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: the biggest selling days for avocado.
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: And guacamole Number one snack.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: Food, number one snack food yep, Mulver Bowl, yep, what
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: do you look it up? Fallbrook is crazy, Fallbrooks. You
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: must have people just all over the place up there
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: looking for avocados.
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: Running down Russian trees and.
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: Well all the avocados Fallbrook is selling right now are
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: from Mexico. Yeah, exactly, because it's off season.
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: Yep, yeah, yeah, but yeah avocado. Yeah, it's the number one,
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: which is funny to think.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: Because most areas they've never even heard of an like.
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: You just also, you know, we talked about like, I mean,
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: that's that's nationwide. That's not even just California where you
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: would think, oh yeah, that makes sense. No, I mean
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: everywhere across the country makes a guacamole dip for a
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: Super Bowl, which I think is funny. It's like, why
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: is that? Why is that? And especially you know, we
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: laugh at these things because as John mentioned, it's off season,
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: meaning it's not you know, you know, there's things, there's
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: things out there, and they're popular because they were the
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: thing in season sure for for that time, and it
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: became popular because it's the season. You know, there's there's
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: a lot of cherry dishes that happened, you know, at
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: a certain time of year, or peach dishes or you know,
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: things like that. But avocado is off season for the
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: super Bowl, which which is funny because what is it
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: the mandarin right is the like symbol for is it
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: you know, Chinese New Year and or kumquat or something
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: like that. You know, but they're in season. It makes sense.
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: Imagine if they tried to make it off season and
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: then work with their holiday.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: Interesting twist.
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's see. I was looking here and I think
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: that carl is referring to the holiday avocado. She wants
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: to know where to get it, and she had mentioned
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: she had an a gift certificate Termstrongs, And I think
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: if Armstrongs doesn't have it, you could order it from them. Yeah,
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: you probably would be holiday or could get a holiday.
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, if we don't have it, we can get it. Yeah,
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: I mean that's not a terribly hard to find, no one,
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: pretty much. We have two growers in southern California. One's
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: called Durlings and one called the Burn And I think
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: actually they're one and the same.
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: Now, oh are they?
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah? I feel like there was a something that happened
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: and either one bought out the other or something of
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: that nature. And so that's that's one that's readily available
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: to us. So any local nursery should be able to
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: at least order it for you, if not have it,
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: so call around. Yeah, we really it's tough. We don't
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: have many citrus growers anymore in southern California. It's a challenge.
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: Well, it's so hard to grow citrus anywhere in the
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: whole country. Yeah, because you can't ship between states and the.
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: Way you grow it like nowadays with California, Like, yeah,
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: you have to grow it in a structure and you
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: have to treat them.
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: And yeah, and I was gonna say, you can't ship
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: between states and in California can't even ship between counties sometimes.
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so let's see.
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: But you know, there's a couple of rare fruit growers
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: and up by John up in Fallbrook is a wonderful
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: selection of different rare fruit growers that if you were
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: looking for something a little bit more unique, you can
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: find them from them because a lot of times they'll
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: either have their own contacts or they'll start growing their
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: own stuff where you know, John Is mentioned a whole
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: slew of different avocados that they might even have one
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: that they recommend outside of outside of the regular ones
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: that we talk about.
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: Well, if you want to join a garden club, the
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: California Rare Fruit Growers has different chapters in different parts
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: of the state. So yeah, they're always a great source.
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: They even have you know, budwoods sometimes and there's usually
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: a member who knows how to graft and you'll graft
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: something up for you, you know, maybe for a fee
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: or maybe because you made them a good friend.
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: Lila says that she ordered she ordered a Steward avocado
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: from Armstrong's Tiger and Thanksgiving and she hasn't heard a
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: word really, like I said, doesn't advertise with us, and
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: we don't promote them. We're just mentioning. Yeah, but like
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: I say, like it's tough.
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's hard with citrus in California. We only have
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: maybe two people to purchase them from, especially when we're
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: talking five gallons. Like, the thing that happens with fifteen
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: gallons is other nurseries will buy the fives and then
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: just shift them into fifteen. So that's why you'll see,
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: you know, other nurseries that have a wide selection of
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: fifteen gallon avocados or fruit trees, but not many fives,
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: And so five gallons are much harder to find, and
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: there's less people that grow him, so it's kind of hard,
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: I would say. And it's also a hard time a
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: year for citrus. This is not the time of year
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: that normally people are buying citrus trees and you know
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: you're going to have a big selection of them in
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: the store. This time of year, it's slower and harder
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: to find them. But I will say one thing too,
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: and this is to.
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: Support like in ten seconds, yes, support.
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: The gardens clubs. Is the quality of fruit tree that
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: you get nowadays is much lower than what you used
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: to that I'm sure a hobbyists could could grab something
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: wonderful for you compared to what's in the market.
• 50:04
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  Speaker 2: three more segments. We're just smack dab. In the middle
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: of the show, John.
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: We were prior to the break, we were talking about
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: avocados and Tiger was mentioning how hard they are to find.
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: And I have five or six avocados that I'm going
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: to plant, mostly most. I guess they're all pretty unusual
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: varieties compared to what you normally see.
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: But I don't think I've ever seen one of the
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: ones you purchase in the store.
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: Really, what are those varieties?
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: Marcus Pumpkin sounds like a little.
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: Nickname for somebody Marcus Pumpkin doing.
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: Read what occasionally you can Yeah, and you can buy
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: them in supermarkets sometimes. Jem which is like a giant
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: has avocado queen. Okay, if you're gonna watch the movie
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: Bohemian Rhapsody, that's the kind of guacamole. I'm with you,
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: of course. And uh and Nabel, so.
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: That to be confused with Nabel.
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: This is Nabel, right, So those are the ones. But anyway,
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: I got all mine on NATSI ship right to my house.
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: They're going to be smaller, but you know, I usually
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: like things smaller and watch the shallow.
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: Shallow roots obviously, or all avocado trees shallow roots.
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: Or not pretty much. Yeah, yeah, anyway, they're they're all
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: doing really well. And Tiger's going to come out and
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: fix the back of my house and the hill where
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: they're going to go on and give irrigation to it.
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: So as as soon as that's done, they're all going
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: to go up. And I figured that with six avocados,
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: I should have avocados year round before whenever I want.
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: Well, I will say we've talked about this concept before
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: too that sometimes it's kind of like why do you
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: why do you plant something? You know, meaning you know,
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: we talked about like a lemon and you know they
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: you know, John has like three lemon trees and he
• 52:56
  Speaker 4: has way too many lemons and avocados, even though they
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: you know, when they get a savage, they do you
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: produce really well, it's a valuable it's a valuable fruit
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: it is, and it's worth the effort you put into
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: growing it. The return on it is wonderful.
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: Not only that you can give them to friends and
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: you'll still be your friend.
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, where you can give a bushel of lemons. Right,
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: I'm just gonna throw this in the trash when you
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: walk out the door.
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: It was a salescap here a couple of weeks ago,
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: maybe a month ago.
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: Came in with two. Yeah, took him home.
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: Took about maybe three or four days to ripen outstanding.
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: Well yeah, the lemons. Yeah.
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: And like Tiger said, you're right, it's like we couldn't wait. Yeah,
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: we couldn't wait for them to ripen up.
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: The nice thing about avocados is a commercial crop is
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: they won't ripen on the tree. Yeah, so you can
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: go through and pick them whenever you want and.
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: Just leave leave on there. What you don't.
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean occasionally, I mean if you leave them
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: too long, they'll just fall off.
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: Was there a question about the narcissus?
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, John and uh Newport Beach said, Tiger, did you
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: see this question about narcissus early cheer and and I
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: guess I missed that.
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: Did you were able to find it or no? Because
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: I didn't see it either?
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, go ahead and repost it if you would, and
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: see if I can. It'll be top of minding unless
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: we come across it.
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: Maybe I can go back, have a way to see
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: if I can find it.
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going back, but I don't see it.
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: You know, it's funny and you know that that Oh here,
• 54:36
  Speaker 4: did you know early cheer? It sounds like we're saying
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: early cheer, right, but it's and then we are saying
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: early cheer, but it's not. It's it's a is it German?
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: You know it is it? Yeah?
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're thinking that's what it is. It is. Oh,
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: I didn't know that.
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, ear liquor.
• 54:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's more like I thought joyful or like
• 55:04
  Speaker 4: that's the word. It's not an English word.
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: Oh okay, because I thought it was a play on words,
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: you know, like it would be an early blooming.
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: Rights but an early chair. But it's not early cheer.
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: It's early kerr, which is a different language, and it
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: means more like joy. It isn't early narcissis too, and
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: it's a double one that looks like a gardenia blossom.
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: You're both right, but you know it's funny when you
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: say things over the radio and they would instantly like think, oh,
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: this is you know, early cheer, like go and look
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: for this guardian or this paper white, and you know
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: they're going to pull up something else. It's funny.
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: So did you find his question?
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: And he hasn't reposted it? Okay, but I'm working on.
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: It, I'm sure. Well. Paula mentions you remember the movie
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: she was talking about earlier, Ruth Stout's Garden.
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: Right, it's on YouTube.
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: I guess, right, yeah, I'm gonna watch. That sounds interesting.
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: I still am trying to figure out. I just have
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: to do research, I guess, but I think for sure
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: you and I talked about this, Brian. But there was
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: in nineteen sixty two, I think it was either sixty
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: one or sixty two there was an ABC special on
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: TV called The Silent Spring of Rachel Carson and she
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: was dying of cancer when they made that, so it
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: was very interesting and as a young young boy, it
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: really impressed.
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: Me, strapping young Lenda might add.
• 56:53
  Speaker 5: And.
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: I never forgot that video, but I always wanted to
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: see it again. And that's something you can't find on YouTube,
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: and I could never find it anywhere, and I thought,
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: you know, I wonder do they keep copies of those,
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: you know, do they get lost? And I'm trying to
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: think now, maybe it was thirty years ago, maybe a
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: little longer. Whenever eBay first came out. Somebody put on
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: eBay the sixteen millimeter copy of the show, so the film,
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: the film film itself, the actual film, and they put
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: it on eBay. And I had never used eBay, but
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: I saw it there and I thought, oh, wow, here's
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: here's you know why no one can see it because
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: here it is right here, The film's right here. So
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: so I bid on it, and I think I remember
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: bidding like twenty dollars and I ended up getting it.
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: Oh and I never still have never seen it.
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: We'll get it transferred. You can take it to get transferred.
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: I had it transferred to to a DVD, but now
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: I don't have a DVD player, So that was about
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: I think maybe ten years ago I had a transfer.
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: So now it's interesting because laptops and computers used to
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: have Yeah, you just slip it in the side and
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: it would play.
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: What's up with that?
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: I don't know what's up with that? Anyway, we got
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: about a minute with that question.
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: So you found it right, So yeah, I found it,
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: and John was asking if we can identify it as
• 58:41
  Speaker 4: because he bought a bag of bulbs at Costco and
• 58:44
  Speaker 4: they're blooming now and one has eight small rose like
• 58:49
  Speaker 4: white and extremely fragrant blossoms on one stock. I like
• 58:55
  Speaker 4: to buy more closest I can come. Is something called
• 58:58
  Speaker 4: summer daffodil or narcisses this early cheer? What is that?
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: And who who might I call to buy more?
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: Okay, we're going to take a break and we're going
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: to come back and answer that, hopefully here on Guard
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: in America. Two more segments BIZ Talk Radio, Facebook Live.
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: We thank you for joining us, Brian Main, John Magnascar,
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: Tiger Palafox. As usual, taking a break.
• 59:18
  Speaker 5: This is Garden America.
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: We have returned as promised to you on Guard in America.
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: A couple more segments to go, So again, thank you
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: for joining us, those that have been with us since
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: the beginning of those just tuning in.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: Got a question for you, Brian, I.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: Think I saw that from Kevin my favorite patio plan. Yeah,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: I would have to say.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: That you now this is one that you favor over
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: the rest of your patio guarden.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: That's like having kids, right, which kid, do you favor yeah?
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: And then he wants another backstory behind it.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: Well, I guess there's a you know interesting, is your
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: favorite necessarily the one that you pay more attention to or.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, you would think you would, yeah for a while.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: So I have Plumeria, I've got the uh palms, roses, hibiscus, hibiscus,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: kally Yeah?
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: Or does your favorite? Change is that whatever is in
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: coming into Bluemouth.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: And that's that's good too? You know the kalally I
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: think right now?
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: Huh.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: I would have to put up there because I've never
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: grown one and it's doing really what. I've been very
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: successful with it. I love the way it looks. I
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: love the blooms. When the Plumeri is in bloom, I
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: would favor that. Yeah. And then there's the roses. So
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: let's go with kalially right now.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: Okay, so it's seasonal.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: It is seasonal with me exactly right.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: Brian has seasonal loves.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 4: So to address John's question, it does sound like what
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 4: he's describing it would not be available right now. You know,
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 4: even if you went online and found a resource.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: They're going to say fall of this fall shipping.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they're not going to be able to have it
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 4: right now. And then in terms of the plant, you know,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: we've talked about this. Somebody else asked, is a narciss
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 4: are narcissus daffodils?
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Leonora wanted to know that, Yeah, and so answers yes,
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 3: the answer is yes, and affidils are narcissus.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: Isn't narcissus the the genus?
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 4: Okay, correct, Yeah, and and then so so Yeah, So
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 4: it sounds like that's the variety that you did get.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 4: It makes sense that someone like Costco would have that.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 4: You can't get it until the fall. But as far
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 4: as who you can get it from, obviously the easiest
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 4: source would be someone online. There's a lot of companies
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 4: that sell ballbs online. There's no guarantee of nursery or
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 4: Costco would have it again in the fall if you
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 4: wanted to grow that one again. And we talked about
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 4: this was it last show about those where this year
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: you have to let it go completely dorm it again.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 4: So you know, you want to make sure that the leaves. Yeah,
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 4: so John, when the when the flower finishes its thing
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 4: and the plant doesn't look all that great, you can't
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 4: touch until it's all the way brown and all the
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 4: way falling down to the ground where it looks like
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 4: it's dead. Do not trim off that foliage. Do not
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 4: cut it back. Let the plant go through the full cycle,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 4: because then you'll get new blossoms next year and new plants.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I was going to say that plant will multiply
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: itself eventually, so you might want to market. And after
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: it has turned brown and its stormant, you could actually
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: pull that one out of the group and you wouldn't
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: know where it was.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: Tanya wants to know what color Mike Keally is.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: Oh. We mentioned it was the one called Green Goddess,
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: and it was called that because it looked like you
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 3: took a paint brush and painted green paint on the
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: tip of the bulb or the flyour. Yeah, yeah, so
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: it's white. It's white. Right then, just the end of
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: Street Green.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: Was over. It's funny they're still here.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: The we were talking about Narcissus being the genus for
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: Daffodil's paper whites and and all those plants, and and
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: the name comes from Brian you know, right, the Greek
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: story of Narcissus.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: Oh, well, we know the derivative is narcissistic.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: Well, narcissist. Being a narcissist comes from that.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: Story, right, thinking of yourself you come.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: First, right, And and Narcissus was the in the Greek
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: story looked at his reflection in a pond and fell
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: in love with himself. And and anyway, I guess that's what. Well, No,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: but somebody thought, wow, these bulbs are just as good
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: looking as Narcissus was. So that's where the term came from.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: I think we took Greek mythology. I want to say,
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: was it ninth grade?
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 3: I think really? Yeah, it seems like an odd course
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: for high school.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 4: He was in special classes.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: We were special Let me ask Let me ask you
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: a Greek question. Okay, do you know who Icarus was?
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 4: I've heard the name before, but if you asked me
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 4: to recall him now, he.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: Flew too close to the sun and the wax wings
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: melted and he plummeted to earth.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it wings made of wax.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 4: That makes a lot of sense if you're flying to
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 4: the sun.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: I got too close, got too close to the sun.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: Who is your favorite Greek god or hero? John?
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: I always like Hercules.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: I thought I thought that you made more of an
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: aphrodite kind of a guy.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: For Dity, it was okay.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 4: I feel like there's some really good ones that you know,
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 4: I mean, I can't recall one off the top of
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 4: my head right now, just yeah, yeah, but I but
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 4: there's some even really like good obscure ones, you know
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 4: what I mean that like are kind of like a
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 4: lot of fun Achilles, yeah, or you know, just Achilles
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 4: was good. You know, there's different funny ones.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: And will we get names, you know for things like
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: your Achilles heel like you injure that you're done?
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: Who is the one that was? I can't remember the
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: whole story about the race, but Nike if she great, God, Nike,
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 3: that's good. This was a woman and if she she
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: had to marry somebody if she lost this race. So
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: she had golden apples that she would throw during the
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 3: race so that the person she was racing against would
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 3: stop and pick them up. Familiar she didn't have to marry. Yeah,
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 3: I can't remember that. I remember the story, but not
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: the name.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 4: That's funny. Yeah, there's some great there's some great stories
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 4: with Greek characters in it that are fun. And if
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 4: you if you were to say which Greek you know,
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 4: god or which character was your best there's some fun
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 4: for Zeus. Yeah, just go for the top.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: The top, top guy. I think there was a cartoon
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: back in the sixties, Hercules. Yeah, and then all those
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: Zeus and all those Greek goddesses and gods were in there,
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: and they had Mount Olympus, and I was fascinated as
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: a kid.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: Frank I mentioned how there was a nice picture in
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: the newsletter of your green goddess Kala. Yes, so anyone
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: who gets you a newsletter can can take a look
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 3: at that.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: I got a trim it this weekend too. I got
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: to do a little maintenance today out there. I've got
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: a couple of plants under the eves that I haven't watered. Yeah,
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: they're palms, they're okay. Yeah, but the rubber plant that
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: needs little water, a little bit of water.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 3: It was Diana that was in the apple race.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: Oh, thank you. See this is why you have listeners
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: and viewers like that.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: Lenarise says she's having a pain right now, and her Achilles,
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: oh sorry about that. And Veronica says, don't don't forget
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: Jason and the Argonauts see that.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, some good ones.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: You know. It's interesting. I love it when we kind
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: of go off in a little tangent our listeners and
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: viewers follow us right along. Yeah, let me tell you
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: the name of this and this like Lemmings right right.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 4: Exactly, Like I like how you Veronica did.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 4: Guacamole is always in season, and that's just the world
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 4: we live in nowadays, where we just assume everything is
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 4: in season, you know.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: Speaking of that, when we had Edlivlon a month or
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: so ago, and he was talking about because I know
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: Dana goes through this a lot. You know, she'll buy
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: you know, cuties little tomatoes one week and well the
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: next week they're not good. But it's the same brand,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: and how come they you know, they vary up and down.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: And Ed talked about the weather, He talked about the
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: ship man. He talked about you can come.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 3: From it's the same, yeah, the same brand, but not
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 3: the same variety.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: Not the same variety, or just the conditions can affect
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: the way it tastes.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 3: Just like she sent you the store to buy an apple,
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 3: you know, who knows what you would come home?
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right, make sure they're jazz apples and you buy
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: the jazz and they don't taste they taste Mealy, Well,
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: they're jazz, that's what you wanted.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 3: It might be jazz out of season.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: Exactly, which gets Yeah, it's like blueberries.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's different ones in different seasons. I'm getting spoiled
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 3: on those. The large extra large blueberries.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: Well yeah, the size of apples, well, not.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: Quite that big, but they're double or triple the size
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 3: of a regular.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: And then you kind of wonder, what how'd they get
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: that big? You think it's just a variety question everything.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 4: You think they're injecting it with.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 3: Water each berry.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: There was a bumper sticker back in the seventies that
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: just said questioned authority.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 4: That was it was a punk rock band or something
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 4: that made those or something did in it?
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: Wasn't it like something?
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 3: Question authority?
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: And then John's favorite group, Social Distortion.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I uh, cousin had a band.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: Called You're gonna say you cousin had a pony, had.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 3: Had a had a band called the Cement Flower.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, we're gonna take a break. All right,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: one more segment, gang get it in.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 5: This is it?
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: Questions comments, biz talk Radio, h it is a garden
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: America and will be after this break here a biz
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: talk radio in case the blue.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 3: All right, that said, yeah, and Leonard, we're back. We
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  Speaker 3: weren't making fun of the pain in your achilles. It's
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  Speaker 3: just the way that it went in with our conversation
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  Speaker 3: so exactly. So we do hope that you feel better.
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  Speaker 3: And my wife has been going through sciatica right now, which.
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  Speaker 2: Is just who is Shannon? Well, I told you I've
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  Speaker 2: got it too. Yeah, it's the worst.
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  Speaker 5: Now.
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  Speaker 2: Right now it's okay, and all of a sudden it'll
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  Speaker 2: flare up. You can't get in a comfortable position.
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  Speaker 3: No, it's all nerves and there's nothing you can take
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  Speaker 3: for it.
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  Speaker 2: No, you could get injections and shots. Pain pills won't
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  Speaker 2: do it. You can exercise and stretch that will help temporarily,
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  Speaker 2: but no, it's it's the worst. So I feel for Shannon.
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  Speaker 2: Go home and share my pain.
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  Speaker 3: With she's had it for a month now. You can't sleep.
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  Speaker 2: I've been of the doctor and they're like, like you said, like, well,
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  Speaker 2: what do you mean? Well, well you can try acupuncture.
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  Speaker 2: You could try this.
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  Speaker 3: Can you sleep off and on?
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  Speaker 2: I have to get into a position, stretch it out
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  Speaker 2: and then hopefully fall asleep.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, she can't lay down. It's terrible, so she has
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  Speaker 3: to sleep sitting up.
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  Speaker 2: It's terrible. Now, Veronica says, total sixties resistance against the man. Ye, yes, absolutely,
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  Speaker 2: And when else do they say? They say, if you
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  Speaker 2: remember the sixties, you didn't live through it.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, Paula, my Juliette grape tomato is just looking sadaul Paula,
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  Speaker 4: we talk about this right now. We talked about this
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  Speaker 4: during this time of year in the show. And I
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  Speaker 4: know I should not grow a plant that long, but
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  Speaker 4: love the year round crop. And you're right, it is
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  Speaker 4: looking sad. But just embrace the idea you have a tomato,
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  Speaker 4: you know, you know, embrace the idea that the plant
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  Speaker 4: is surviving. And you know it's no.
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  Speaker 3: One else has tomatoes.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know you're winning. It might be looking sad,
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  Speaker 4: you're winning exactly.
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  Speaker 3: Well you used to?
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  Speaker 4: Do You need more friends on the East coast.
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  Speaker 3: Are dearly departed? Friend Steve Goto started a program in
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  Speaker 3: southern California called Winter Tomatoes, and they were tomatoes that
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  Speaker 3: you would plant in August and they would give you
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  Speaker 3: fruit all the way through till January or February.
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  Speaker 2: I remember that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, on those tomatoes though? What made them winter tomatoes
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  Speaker 3: is that they would set fruit when nighttime temperatures were cold,
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  Speaker 3: so even when the nighttime temperatures would go into the
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 3: thirties and forties, they would continue to fruit.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and they had a very a short you know cycle,
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  Speaker 4: where some of the other ones that you started in
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  Speaker 4: the spring hat they needed that time, you know.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. But just because it was a short season tomato
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  Speaker 3: or an early tomato, did not mean that it would
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  Speaker 3: be a winter right. For instance, Early Girl. When we
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 3: started that program, a lot of people said, oh, well.
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  Speaker 4: Here's Early Girl, because it's makes sense.
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  Speaker 3: But Early Girl does not set fruit under cold conditions,
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  Speaker 3: so that was not a winner. Tomato and Brian, you
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  Speaker 3: remember that most of the names of those tomatoes were.
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  Speaker 2: Cold seasons, yeah, Russiah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you had Manitoba names that Siberia yeah, ice Cap.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that good name.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. There was you know, Greenland's been in
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 3: the news lately, and there was a tomato called Arctic.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 3: There were several Arctic tomatoes, but I think it was
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 3: called Arctic sub plenty, and it was developed by the
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 3: Navy to feed people, feed the soldiers in Greenland during
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 3: the winter, well during during I guess their winner would
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 3: be your lune during the.
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  Speaker 2: Winter during every day.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I know you've talked about the value of purple
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  Speaker 4: tomatoes with the antioxidants and anthocyanins, sins and all that.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 4: What is the value of a red tomato? Like, what
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 4: is it's what is its number one nutrient?
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: Is it lycopene?
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 3: John Well? Lycopene is the the nutrient that's in it?
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 4: That is that like something super valuable to us that
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 4: you know, like you just said, trying to grow navy
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 4: is trying to grow them to produce something for people
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  Speaker 4: to eat.
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  Speaker 3: They usually vitamin C and and different vitamins.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 4: From those, right, Okay, because you know, like there's no
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 4: point in learning how to grow a celery somewhere.
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  Speaker 2: Like you know what I mean, like any nutrients in
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: a celery.
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  Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. Negative, nobody's developing, you know, Salary, Oh,
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 4: I know this show is about to wrap up, but
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 4: I went to a crazy dive on the story of
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 4: a carrot because there was this whole woman that came
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 4: out and she's some like vegan activist and how nobody
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 4: should eat a carrot? Do you know the story of carrots?
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  Speaker 4: Queen Anne's lace.
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  Speaker 3: I know, Queen Anne slice is in the carrot family.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 4: Correct, So she connected that we as a society, the
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 4: carrot's only two hundred years old, she established, and we
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 4: as a psychicher correct, But we created the carrot from
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 4: Queen Ann's lace. That's what her connection was, and that
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 4: we created this carrot. And Queen Anne's lace was a
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 4: natural morning after pill. It was a natural like birth
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 4: control pill kind of a thing. Queen ans lace is
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 4: what she says, And she would never let her kid
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  Speaker 4: or family eat this because of its snatch. Anyways, it's
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 4: not connected at all in that way. But so I
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 4: took a deep dive into where carrots came from. And
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 4: number one, only two hundred years Yeah, number one, carrots
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 4: are way older than that they are, and they never
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 4: they weren't created by people. You know, there's documents in
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 4: like China and Egypt with carrots like you know what
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 4: I mean. So anyways, but it was just it was
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 4: just this crazy deep dive. If you ever have a chance,
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 4: look into the story of the carrot, because there's a
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 4: lot of there's a lot of weird twist and turns
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 4: of the carrot and who created and why they created it,
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 4: and you know all this.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: But now your deep dive was factual.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah yeah, he was like her hers like, I
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 4: mean it's a very loose connection, right, yes, Like John mentioned,
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 4: they are connected just like a tomato and night shade.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 3: Well it was about about two hundred years ago they
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 3: became orange, So maybe that's what she was thinking of.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 4: Right, I think that's where she created her connection. But
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 4: like we're saying, that's no, no, no, that's.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 3: That's the trouble. What's you know, googling things and getting
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 3: an AI description? Now is that oftentimes it's just completely wrong.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: Well I know it's not wrong. We have to say goodbye.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: Auta yo, sayonara, I'll beave a dircy. It's time to go.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: Oh now we're off next week. Oh we are, We
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: are off just next week.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 4: We're back Valentine's Weekend.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: We're back though, back baby Valentine's Day. Thank you for
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: tuning in Facebook Live Biz Talk Radio. It's been a pleasure,
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: it's been fun, it's been real nice as a matter
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: of fact. So we're gonna say goodbye until two weeks.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for tuning in, Thank you for joining us.
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  Speaker 2: For the entire crew, I'm Brian Main Tiger Palafox, John Begnasco,
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  Speaker 2: be safe, have a great weekend, and we'll do it
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  Speaker 2: again in two weeks right here on Guard in America.
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  Speaker 2: Take care to