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Mac & Bone Hour 4: Rodd Baxley & Joe Person · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ, Mack and Bone with you. If
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  Speaker 2: you want more Panther talk, you want to hear more
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  Speaker 2: about the two defensive players they added and some of
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  Speaker 2: the surprising cuts guys like Trevin Wallace, David Moore. We'll
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  Speaker 2: talk all about it with Joe Person of The Athletic.
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  Speaker 2: That's coming up at 925. Right now, though, we've got
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  Speaker 2: to talk about a man who covered in Ireland the Heels'
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  Speaker 2: upset win over TCU. It's got Tar Heel fans maybe surprised,
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  Speaker 2: but also pretty darn excited this morning. He is Rod
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  Speaker 2: Baxley from the Fayetteville Observer. And he joins us here
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  Speaker 2: to talk about the Heels win, how they do it,
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  Speaker 2: what does it mean moving forward. And Rod joins us
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  Speaker 2: here on the Mac and Bone Show. Rod, thanks for
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  Speaker 2: coming on, man.
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  Speaker 3: How you doing?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm adjusting, man. It's, what, 2 p.m. in Ireland
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  Speaker 4: and 9 a.m.
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  Speaker 5: Here at home.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm just time traveling all over the world, man.
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  Speaker 2: How was the experience of being over there in Ireland? Like,
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  Speaker 2: how much of a blast was that? That's a cool
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  Speaker 2: assignment for you.
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  Speaker 4: Man, it was a blast. I mean, I really only
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  Speaker 4: had one day to explore because we obviously have to
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  Speaker 4: get work done. But I think UNC Athletics Director Steve
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  Speaker 4: Newmark said it best when he kind of compared it
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  Speaker 4: to a Final Four weekend. I got that feel with
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  Speaker 4: all the logos and fans and obviously the locals embracing everything.
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  Speaker 4: It was just a good, fun Irish time.
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  Speaker 6: Rod, what element of the win, outside of just in
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  Speaker 6: general the Eagles winning, what element of how they got
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  Speaker 6: it done surprised you the most?
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  Speaker 4: I think I have to go to the discipline because
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  Speaker 4: of how bad it was last year. We came in
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  Speaker 4: thinking this thing was going to be a classic Bill Belichick,
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  Speaker 4: program that centered around defense and discipline, and that just
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  Speaker 4: didn't happen last year. I mean, in their last two games,
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  Speaker 4: I think they had more than 200 yards in penalties.
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  Speaker 4: And in this opener, which you always expect to be sloppy,
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  Speaker 4: just three penalties for 20 yards. And TCU had double-digit penalties,
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  Speaker 4: I think, for more than 100 yards. So I would
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  Speaker 4: say that was probably the most surprising thing to me,
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  Speaker 4: given how last year looked at times. They let TCU
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  Speaker 4: make the big mistakes, and Carolina took advantage of them
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  Speaker 4: to get to the finish line.
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  Speaker 6: A texter says, this guy doesn't sound like he has
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  Speaker 6: an Irish accent. No, we're not saying that Rod is Irish.
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  Speaker 6: We're saying Rod wasn't Irish. He's from here, man.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 3: Settle down there. He didn't pick up the leprechaun.
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  Speaker 5: No, he did not.
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  Speaker 3: That's not Irish, Rod, that you're talking about.
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  Speaker 4: Southern accent through and through.
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  Speaker 3: Can't change that. One trip to Ireland is not going
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  Speaker 3: to change that.
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  Speaker 2: He is Rod Baxley, Fayetteville Observer, fresh back from Ireland
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  Speaker 2: and covering the Tar Heels. So what did you think
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  Speaker 2: about Bobby Petrino's first game as an O.C.? And and
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  Speaker 2: Edwards first game as a quarterback. I was praising them earlier.
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  Speaker 2: I got some backlash, maybe from bitter state fans. They
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  Speaker 2: only score 15 points. Why are you praising those guys?
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  Speaker 2: But I was impressed. I think it I think it
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  Speaker 2: was promising from both those guys. What did you think?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, look, you only have to score more than the
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  Speaker 4: other team, right?
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  Speaker 5: That's true.
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  Speaker 4: And last season's opener against TCU, they had three turnovers,
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  Speaker 4: two that went for defensive touchdowns. Billy took care of
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  Speaker 4: the ball. Bobby put him in situations to get it
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  Speaker 4: out quick to playmakers like Ohio State transfer Jelani Thurman
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  Speaker 4: and then returner Jordan Shipp. and he put the team
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  Speaker 4: in position to move the chains when they needed to
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  Speaker 4: move the chains, and they had a four-minute drive to
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  Speaker 4: win it. So I was pretty impressed given the sloppy
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  Speaker 4: conditions and the newness of having Petrino and Edwards, but...
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you obviously want to see more moving forward
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  Speaker 4: in a normal setting, but given the conditions and everything
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  Speaker 4: surrounding that game, I thought they were pretty good aside
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  Speaker 4: from the two fumbles from the wide receiver and running back.
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  Speaker 6: Rod, how vintage of a performance was that from Belichick
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  Speaker 6: in the adjustment part of coaching, especially with what they
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  Speaker 6: did defensively to slow down TCU's running attack in the
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  Speaker 6: second half?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, right out of the gate, it looked
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  Speaker 4: like TCU was going to have about 400 rushing yards
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  Speaker 4: with Jeremy Payne. I think they had 111 at halftime,
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  Speaker 4: 26 after the break. So, yeah, Belichick was in his
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  Speaker 4: classic vintage bag calling defense there. And it started up front.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, the defensive line just dominated TCU's front as
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  Speaker 4: the game went on, starting with Melkart, Albujaude, who I
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  Speaker 4: think we'll probably see on Sundays. And then Xavier Lewis,
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  Speaker 4: who had eight tackles last year and had seven in
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  Speaker 4: that game, including four for a loss.
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  Speaker 3: We've got to talk about Xavier Lewis.
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  Speaker 2: This kid was a four-star recruit, Roseville High School.
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  Speaker 3: He shocked the whole country.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody watching that game was raving about him on social media.
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  Speaker 2: What a story he could become. Leroy Jackson as well.
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  Speaker 2: I was kind of worried about what they lost up front.
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  Speaker 2: They kept Melcar, but what they lost up front, I
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  Speaker 2: was kind of worried about. Tyler Thompson, some of those guys. Man,
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  Speaker 2: that defensive front as the game went on, those guys
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  Speaker 2: were getting it done.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and they're really excited about Jalen Harvey, too, another
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  Speaker 4: one of those young guys who came from Penn State
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  Speaker 4: out of the transfer portal, one of those 70 newcomers.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, Xavier Lewis, I think he was going to
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  Speaker 4: be an Austin Peay walk-on before he ended up coming
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  Speaker 4: to Carolina last year. Just an incredible story there to
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  Speaker 4: end up being the MVP of that game, not last night,
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  Speaker 4: but two nights ago now.
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  Speaker 6: Rod, how much has that performance changed maybe what your
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  Speaker 6: outlook was for the season? Or is it still kind of, hey,
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  Speaker 6: we need to wait and see what they do next?
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  Speaker 6: Or do you now think, hey, this team might be
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  Speaker 6: pretty good?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I try to keep a level head about these things.
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  Speaker 4: I know a lot of the national folks love to
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  Speaker 4: bury Belichick in the offseason. And I just wanted to
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  Speaker 4: see the games, man. Let's get to the games and
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  Speaker 4: see what happens. I will say I feel a lot
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  Speaker 4: better about this group after seeing them Saturday. I mean, heck,
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  Speaker 4: last year they didn't have a win against a Power
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  Speaker 4: 4 program until Halloween against the Syracuse team that had
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  Speaker 4: a lacrosse player at quarterback. So just in that scenario...
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  Speaker 4: I think we're already ahead of where we were last season.
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  Speaker 4: And Bill and his players have said this is a
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  Speaker 4: different group with a different attitude, and I think we
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  Speaker 4: saw that, and we've consistently heard it from the seven
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  Speaker 4: captains throughout the offseason. So time will tell, obviously, but
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  Speaker 4: it's obviously a good early step forward for the program.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, think about where they are.
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  Speaker 2: Ray, you talked about it, where they are now after
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  Speaker 2: one game compared to last year. Feels like night and day.
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  Speaker 3: All right, Rob.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, we appreciate you. Good luck getting adjusted fully. Back
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  Speaker 2: to the fact that you are in North Carolina, no.
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  Speaker 3: Longer in Ireland. But great job on the interview, man.
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  Speaker 3: Appreciate you. I appreciate y'all.
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  Speaker 5: Thanks for having me.
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  Speaker 3: There you go.
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  Speaker 2: Check out Rod Baxley's coverage, Fayetteville Observer, of Tar Heel Athletics,
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  Speaker 2: including the unbeaten football team.
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  Speaker 6: Yes. Really carrying the conference so far, along with Florida
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  Speaker 6: State and Stanford.
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  Speaker 5: There you go.
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  Speaker 3: I know who's not carrying the conference.
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  Speaker 5: Who's that, Matt?
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  Speaker 3: What's that supposed to mean? We'll pack in the house.
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  Speaker 6: Matt, I was laughing there as we were wrapping that
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  Speaker 6: up because I looked up at Get Up on ESPN.
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  Speaker 6: I respect ESPN for always easing into topics. Their topic
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  Speaker 6: right now this morning is... Can the Rams have a
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  Speaker 6: perfect season this year since they added Aaron Donald back?
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  Speaker 2: They aren't prone to hyperbole at all. Oh, there's Dan Orlowski.
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  Speaker 2: Did you see Dan Orlowski taking his victory lap on Twitter?
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  Speaker 3: I did.
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  Speaker 2: He was retweeting the awful announcing tweet from last week.
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  Speaker 2: They did a story about how Dan Orlowski said that
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  Speaker 2: y'all need to stop trying to dunk on Belichick. Don't
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  Speaker 2: count them out. They're going to be better than you think.
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  Speaker 2: So Orlowski, complainer-in-chief... And do we say Fitty? Did Fitty
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  Speaker 2: still believe it? I mean, he believed enough to pick
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  Speaker 2: the heels to win last week. But did he really
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  Speaker 2: believe in Belichick?
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  Speaker 6: At the Complainer and Chief Orlovsky luncheon today, it's Fitty
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  Speaker 6: invited to 53.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. Did they give you an invite, Fitt?
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  Speaker 7: I'm hosting the damn luncheon. Now I'm going to feed
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  Speaker 7: them Willie P's dry brisket. Can I tell you what
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  Speaker 7: a run Fitty is on right now? A great last-minute
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  Speaker 7: goal for your Everton squad, Fitty, to pull out a
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  Speaker 7: road point against Bournemouth the other day. Then right after that,
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  Speaker 7: your heels shock the world and win. The Wolfpack get
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  Speaker 7: toe-dragged all over.
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  Speaker 3: Charlottesville.
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  Speaker 2: And now it's date night number two tonight for the
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  Speaker 2: Fit Dog. Bone, it's Fitty's world, man. We lucky to
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  Speaker 2: even have a spot in it.
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  Speaker 6: He may have found the perfect woman who said, and
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  Speaker 6: I quote, it doesn't matter where we go. You could
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  Speaker 6: take me to McDonald's and I'd be happy. Finney said,
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  Speaker 6: I'm always happy at McDonald's. You found your soulmate, Finney.
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  Speaker 6: What do you want to say about tonight's date, Finney?
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  Speaker 6: How many details can you give?
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  Speaker 2: I know you don't want tailgating in the parking lot
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  Speaker 2: at this place, but what do you want to say?
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  Speaker 7: I took a lot of the advice that I asked for.
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  Speaker 7: Some of it I didn't ask for. I let her
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  Speaker 7: pick the place that we're going to eat tonight. So yeah,
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  Speaker 7: this is date number two. And been really taken aback
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  Speaker 7: by the interest that she has in me.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 7: So nerves are still there because I'm waiting.
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  Speaker 3: That should put you at ease. I'm waiting for something
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  Speaker 3: to go wrong, though.
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  Speaker 1: Why are you taking aback that she has interest in you, though?
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  Speaker 1: Because usually, like, I'm a very good first date guy. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: there's not usually the second date. This is the hurdle
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  Speaker 1: for you? This is, oh, yeah, this is the hurdle.
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  Speaker 2: You got this, baby. This seems like this is different.
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  Speaker 2: I want to tell you right now, I have a
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  Speaker 2: great feeling about you two kids. I just have a
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  Speaker 2: great feeling, Bone. I don't know about you. I just
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  Speaker 2: realized I might be jinxing it, Bone.
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  Speaker 3: Well, yeah. When I come in tomorrow depressed.
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  Speaker 6: Mac told me during the break he hasn't felt this
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  Speaker 6: good about something since the Wolfpack on Saturday.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, God. This is the feeling I had about C.J.
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  Speaker 2: Bailey three days ago. I didn't think about that. Are
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  Speaker 2: you supposed to victory dance by yourself today?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, that's right.
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  Speaker 2: We wanted you to do like a river dance, like
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  Speaker 2: an Irish dance. Can you dance the river dance? Dance
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  Speaker 2: like nobody's watching. And then send it to your girl
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  Speaker 2: and see if she still hangs in there.
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  Speaker 7: You know I'm always ready to shake my ass.
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  Speaker 6: That's a hell of a quote. Put that up on
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  Speaker 6: the quote board. A man we've seen dancing before at
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  Speaker 6: Willie P's wedding. Speaking of Willie P, he's got bad
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  Speaker 6: food taste on the text line. More on that later.
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  Speaker 6: But a man who danced, dances backside off at Willie
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  Speaker 6: P's wedding. Jumpin' Joe person. He joins us next. We're
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  Speaker 6: going to go through the current state of the 53-man roster.
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  Speaker 6: What surprised him? What's next?
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  Speaker 3: All that and more. Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.
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  Speaker 2: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNT. Mack and Bone with you on
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  Speaker 2: a Monday. Giving the glory to Belichick. Despite what some
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  Speaker 2: of y'all are saying, I'm giving glory to Belichick, the Heels,
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  Speaker 2: Finney Marlowe, Complainer-in-Chief, the whole crew, man. What a way
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  Speaker 2: to start the season. By the way, if you notice, Bone,
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  Speaker 2: the buzzards are already circling for Dave Doran on the
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  Speaker 2: text line. Stay fancied. State fans saying, you know what?
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  Speaker 2: It's time now. Now it's time. So is that back?
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  Speaker 2: Is Dave Watch back on?
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  Speaker 3: Is it back on? He's either back.
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  Speaker 6: It's an endless cycle for Dave Dorn, is it not?
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  Speaker 6: Either he's got his team playing to a point where
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  Speaker 6: he gets hyped up or he's on the hot seat.
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  Speaker 6: There's no in-between here with Dave Dorn. He's either on
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  Speaker 6: the hot seat or things are looking great for him.
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  Speaker 6: There's really no middle ground.
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  Speaker 3: My goodness.
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  Speaker 2: All right, anyway, let's talk about the Carolina Panthers because yesterday,
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  Speaker 2: and we had to wait for it a little while.
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  Speaker 2: I know Joe was probably waiting to write a story,
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  Speaker 2: but eventually we got the initial... 53-man roster, because you
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  Speaker 2: know there will be a change or two. They also, Bone,
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  Speaker 2: look like they're about to add officially Bobby Okereke, linebacker
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  Speaker 2: from the Giants on a one-year deal. They made the
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  Speaker 2: trade for Terah Edwards at D-Tackle. So there's a lot
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  Speaker 2: to talk about right now with Joe Person, TheAthletic.com, one
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  Speaker 2: of the best in the business when it comes to
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  Speaker 2: covering the Carolina Panthers.
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  Speaker 3: And he joins us here post-cuts. Joe, what's going on, man?
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  Speaker 3: How you doing?
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  Speaker 5: Good morning, gentlemen. How y'all doing?
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  Speaker 3: What's up, man? What's up? What did you think? Glad
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  Speaker 3: we made the roster yesterday, you know? We made the....
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  Speaker 5: Yo, we all woke up this morning still employed. This
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  Speaker 5: is a good thing.
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  Speaker 3: We survived cut-down day somehow, someway.
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  Speaker 2: What did you think was the biggest surprise or biggest
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  Speaker 2: couple surprises?
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  Speaker 3: How surprised were you by Trevin Wallace? Was that the
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  Speaker 3: top one?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Because I... Obviously, I didn't think
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  Speaker 5: he was going to be starting with Okereke on his
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  Speaker 5: way in, but I thought there was still a use
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  Speaker 5: for Trevin Wallace as a backup and a special teams player.
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  Speaker 5: But Claude and Chairless is the better special teams player.
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  Speaker 5: And I think these last couple of roster spots at
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  Speaker 5: certain positions, it comes down to special teams. And we
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  Speaker 5: saw that with Chairless. So, yeah, I was surprised that
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  Speaker 5: they moved on from Trevin Wallace, that draft class from 2024,
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  Speaker 5: Dan Morgan's first one. It's not looking great. You've got
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  Speaker 5: Xavier Leggett with a big question mark. Maybe Jonathan Brooks
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  Speaker 5: kind of salvages it by being the back that they
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  Speaker 5: thought they were drafting in the second round a couple
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  Speaker 5: years ago out of Texas. And now, obviously, you know,
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  Speaker 5: Wallace is gone. And then the other surprise, I was
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  Speaker 5: kind of a little surprised that Chandler Zavala is still
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  Speaker 5: around and that they kept five tight ends. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: that's too many, in my opinion. And certainly that could change.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, that could change today at 2 o'clock when
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  Speaker 5: the claims are announced and Okereke, I'm assuming, will be today.
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  Speaker 5: So they've got some more cuts to make. And right
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  Speaker 5: now they have 27 on offense, spots taken, and 23
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  Speaker 5: on defense. So that feels like if you're trimming the fat,
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  Speaker 5: to me it feels like it's going to be on
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  Speaker 5: the offensive side.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, they have 15 spots combined right now with tight
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  Speaker 6: ends and offensive linemen. You feel like that's an area
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  Speaker 6: where a couple guys might go. Busy day, Joe, as
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  Speaker 6: you know, yesterday. Not just the cutdowns, but T-Raw Edwards
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  Speaker 6: comes in from the Chargers. What do you think of
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  Speaker 6: that trade? And from what you know, what we're getting
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  Speaker 6: here with this young man?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it seems like he's a pretty decent penetrator and
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  Speaker 5: run stuffer. I don't know that he's a guy that's
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  Speaker 5: going to create a lot of pressure on the passer,
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  Speaker 5: but they just needed a kind of a, another, you know,
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  Speaker 5: prospect in there because they're, they're, they're pretty thin with,
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  Speaker 5: you know, obviously they, they let a John Robinson walk
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  Speaker 5: in free agency. Then Turk Wharton has the, the next surgery.
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  Speaker 5: And then let's not forget, I think the little, the
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  Speaker 5: little Brian Ray retirement really kind of caught these guys
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  Speaker 5: by surprise. And so, You know, all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 5: they're having to throw Cam Jackson and Lee Hunter right
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  Speaker 5: in there. And I know Cam's been around for now
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  Speaker 5: two years, and Lee Hunter was a high draft pick. So,
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  Speaker 5: I mean, you should be relying on guys like that.
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  Speaker 5: But I just felt, I think they felt that beyond
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  Speaker 5: those guys, it was just a little lean. And so...
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  Speaker 5: They did keep Aaron Hall, and I think he did
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  Speaker 5: have a good camp after signing as undrafted free agent
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  Speaker 5: out of Duke. But I don't know that they felt
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  Speaker 5: like he was necessarily ready to kind of plug and play.
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  Speaker 5: You guys know, especially early in the season, but really
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  Speaker 5: all season, those interior D linemen, that is a very
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  Speaker 5: rotational group. They're running guys in and out of there.
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  Speaker 5: on those hot, you know, September Sundays. But, but as
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  Speaker 5: I said, even all along, but I think, I think
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  Speaker 5: Edwards buys them some time, you know, while they still
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  Speaker 5: wait for, for Wharton to get back. So I think
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  Speaker 5: it's fine. I mean, you know, his college numbers were
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  Speaker 5: okay at Illinois, but, but, Clearly Dan Morgan and his
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: scouts saw something in him.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he definitely seems to have a heck of a preseason.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: We'll see if that translates. We're talking to Joe Person.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: TheAthletic.com.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: If you want great Panthers coverage, you know Joe is
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: going to give it to you. So, Joe, let's talk
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: about the wide receivers. Jasim Reed, Horn makes it. Jasim
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: Reed ends up getting waived. I would think they want
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: to bring him back on practice squad. I was surprised, though.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: I would have thought Reed over Mechie. I kind of
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: slept on Mechie. What did you think about what they
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: did there at the receivers?
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah, here's what I think. I'm like you. I kind
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: of went back and forth. I had Reed as my
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: last receiver on my projection. And I literally like cut Mechie,
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: you know, cut and pasted him or cut and deleted
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: him out of his– I initially had him is what
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: I'm trying to say. Back on the special teams, Jag, though,
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: you know, we learned yesterday that that ankle for HN
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: is a little worse than we thought. I mean, bad
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: enough that he's going on IR with designation to return.
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: So, I mean, not season ending, but all of a
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: sudden you need a kick and punt returner for the
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: first four games. And I think Jim Horn's going to
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: be that guy, but John Meche probably is going to
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: be the backup. And so I wonder if that, we didn't,
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: we didn't get to talk, talk to Canales or Morgan yesterday.
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: We're going to get Morgan tomorrow, I believe. So I
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: wasn't able to ask that question, but that's, that certainly
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: to me is logical. And by the way, I mean,
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: it's not like John Metchie had a bad camp. I mean,
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: he was their leading receiver in preseason games. He's got
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: some yards after catch ability, maybe more so than Reed.
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: I mean, Reed's kind of that classic long receiver who
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: go up and high point it. You know, he, he had,
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: he did kind of have some, some, unfortunately for him,
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: some kind of sloppy routes that were, you know, he
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: was having trouble, Uh, his footing on that wet turf
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: the other night. I'm not saying that's a reason he
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: got cut, but I think the return thing with Mechie
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: probably swayed it in his favor.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: Very good point.
• 20:02
  Speaker 6: Joe, the new Saturday before all this, Bobby Okereke signed
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: to play linebacker. How big of a deal is that,
• 20:09
  Speaker 6: both in terms of the player that they're getting and
• 20:12
  Speaker 6: also the need that this team has for a guy
• 20:15
  Speaker 6: like him?
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure. I mean, we saw Sharilis and Wallace,
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: just neither of them separated this summer. I mean, they
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: had every opportunity. And, you know, you kind of went
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: in with the idea thinking Wallace would end up winning
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: that competition. And the longer it sort of became an either-or,
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: you're like, clearly he– and I'll take this back, honestly,
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: to his first two seasons. I mean, nothing against Trevin Wallace,
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: the person, but on the field, I just– I struggle to, like,
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: remember any super impact plays that he made out there.
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: I'm sure there are a couple I'm forgetting, but they
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: were few and far between in my mind. And he
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: did have a sack the other night against the Texans, but,
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: you know, he's in there against the Houston second-team offense. But, yeah,
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: and this is kind of when– these are a little
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: tougher decisions, I think, for front offices when you have
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: to start cutting, like, day-two picks that you made in
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: the case of Dan Morgan. These are no longer Scott
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: Fitterer's guys that you're cutting.
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: But Dan Morgan clearly thought they needed an upgrade there,
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: and Okereke provides it. I mean, did talk to some
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: folks around the Giants who thought that his play last
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: year slipped, that they thought he looked like a step slow.
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: Maybe he was playing through an injury. I don't know.
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: I mean, still 30, which, you know, not super old.
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: It's kind of right kind of where it does start to– Uh,
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: sometimes for some guys, you start to slip a bit,
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: but hopefully any, and you look at his stat sheet and,
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: and he's still, you know, made a bunch of tackles.
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: But what I was told is kind of like I
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: just said about Wallace. There weren't as many impact and
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: kind of momentum-type changing plays that they had seen, especially
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: his first year after leaving the Colts to go out
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: of the Giants.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: Career high with 21 missed tackles, too. He still made
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: a ton of tackles, but he missed more than ever.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: But I also say this, too, Joe.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: You know this.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: He doesn't have to be Ray Lewis. Are you better
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: than Cheryl?
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: And I still think he will be. Now, we cannot
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: complete this interview, Joe. about talking about fan favorite, Haynes King.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: He could have livened up some of these preseason games,
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: but unfortunately, he only played in the Hall of Fame
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: game and had this injury. He might be in the
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: Hall of Fame soon. Panther fans putting him in there.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: I know Joey told you after the game, I probably
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: was healthy enough to play, but they wanted to sit
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: me out, make sure that hamstring doesn't flare back up.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: Where do you think he's at? What is the team
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: thinking on him? Is it as simple as developmental quarterback?
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: We really like you, but we want to make sure
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: that you don't get snatched away. Is he any threat
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: at any point this season to push Kenny Pickett? Or
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: is this kind of like developmental guy and maybe next
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: year he could be the backup?
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: What do you think?
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's mostly developmental. But, I mean, don't
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: mistake it. They really like him. I mean, they like
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: his makeup. Uh, they, I, I remember two days after
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: the season and after that Rams playoff loss, Dan Morgan
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: told us like, could you go get a, he was asked,
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: could you go get a developmental quarterback? And he said, yeah.
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: And if I do, I'm looking for one who can
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: make plays with his arm and his feet. Yeah. That
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: is Haynes King, anyone who's watched Georgia Tech the last
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: couple years. And then, like I said, I mean, that
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: was kind of a magical moment in Canton until it
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: wasn't when he either got hurt on the dive into
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: the end zone or maybe during the celebration that followed,
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: if you go back and look at that video. But nevertheless,
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: and I don't even think that was a terrible thing
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: because it– well, yeah, it was because– You didn't get
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: to see him, but the rest of the league didn't
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: get to watch him also. I don't know if they're
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: going to be able to sneak him onto the practice
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: squad at any point this year. I think he'll stick.
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: And then Kenny Pickett signed for one year. And I
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: think there's a pretty clear path to Haynes King being
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: the QB2 in 2027. Definitely.
• 24:45
  Speaker 6: Dexter asks, Jack, will Haynes, the guy's name is Jack,
• 24:49
  Speaker 6: will Haynes King be a captain this year, Joe?
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: Panther fans love them. Love them some Haynes King. That
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: would be funny if he was a captain and J.J.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: Wasn't, though. I will say that. Oh, how dare you.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: J.J., not only the long snapper, but also the fourth
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: quarter entertainment on the TV broadcast. What can that man
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: not do? He could probably write articles, too, Joe. He
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: probably could, right?
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: I came home from the stadium late Friday night, and
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: my wife's talking about how great J.J. Jansen looked and
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: his presence. And I was like, holy cow, I better
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: fix my hair the way J.J. Jansen fixed his hair.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: It's unbelievable.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: We bring him on the air to chop it up
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: with us, and our bosses rave about him. Man, that
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: Jansen's unbelievable on the air.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: It's crazy.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you, he's taking over the world, Joe. He's
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: trying not to put him on as much anymore. Wives, bosses,
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: everybody's impressed by JJ.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: All right, brother.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: We're impressed by you, Joe. All right, I want you
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: to know that. Keep up the good work. Theathletic.com, at
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: Joseph Person on Twitter. Thank you, brother. Appreciate you, man.
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, let's all check in with each other tomorrow just
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: in case any of these waiver claims don't get us
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: bumped off the air.
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: I'm always one day away. That's true. That's true. All right, man.
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: Be good.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: That is Joe Person. That man's not going on waivers, baby.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: We need him covering the Carolina Panthers.
• 26:10
  Speaker 6: I observed something here when I was doing some research
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: here while Joe was talking. I know this doesn't ultimately
• 26:15
  Speaker 6: matter because it's a ways away, but... We've talked about
• 26:19
  Speaker 6: the point spread for the Panthers week one. Bears favorites, right?
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: Two and a half.
• 26:22
  Speaker 6: Do you know that the Panthers, as of now, are
• 26:25
  Speaker 6: the underdog in week two against the Falcons in Atlanta?
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: The underdog? The Falcons are favored currently by a point
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: and a half in that game. That's disrespect. Seriously. I
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: know that the home team gets points.
• 26:35
  Speaker 6: I just thought it's funny where we know that the Panthers,
• 26:38
  Speaker 6: first of all, they play well down there. But yes,
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: and there's a ways to go, but.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: Falcons be favorites over the Panthers.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: Have y'all not gotten a memo that Bryce owns that?
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: Arthur Blank doesn't own that team. Bryce Young owns that team.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: And by the way, you know who else was an
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: underdog in Atlanta? Charlotte FC on Saturday night. Very slight,
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: but slight underdog. And they went there and won their
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: fourth straight.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: J.J. was amazing.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: And Smitty was giving him, like, Smitty was definitely in
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: Smitty form.
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: Like, needling him. And J.J.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: Handled it like a true pro. And how about the
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: fact bone? There was a roughing the snapper penalty while J.J.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: JJ was on the air. It was beautiful timing. Was
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: Mike Jack... Y'all watch more of the broadcast because I
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: left at halftime. I left the Panther game at halftime,
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: watched the second half at home.
• 27:25
  Speaker 6: I may have also left the game a little bit
• 27:27
  Speaker 6: because I fell asleep there in the second half.
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: Did you miss the JJ interview? I saw it the
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: next day.
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: Oh, okay.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: But live, you missed it. I wasn't exactly live. Not
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: a football guy. Was Mike.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: Hey, you left a show on Friday. You're not a
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: radio guy.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: Oh, oh. Was Mike Jack, although he did go to
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: work another radio show. Oh, that didn't count. Also, apparently
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: you have a fake girlfriend, but I want to text
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: people back pictures of her.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: That's cold. That's cold.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: Was Mike Jack's interview on the TV? Like, was it
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: on Panthers TV during the game? Do you all know?
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: I think so. I don't remember. I don't know if
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: I remember or not. Finney got nothing. Oh, you're asking me, too?
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: I'm asking you guys because you guys, I thought y'all
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: watched the broadcast.
• 28:08
  Speaker 6: Yes, it was because he had that quote about all.
• 28:10
  Speaker 6: I saw Derek Brown be in an interview. But I
• 28:13
  Speaker 6: didn't see Mike Jack.
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to remember. Yes, he was because he went
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: off about his.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Mike Jack was asked about his goals and said six picks,
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: three back to the crib. Ten pass breakups. Ten passes defended.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: Two forced fumbles. Two fumble recoveries. Less than two TDs
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: given up. And no more than five missed tackles. Has
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: anyone ever been more specific about their goals individually? That's
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: an amazing answer. Now I know what you're talking about.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: I just saw a tweet about it. It was on
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: the broadcast, yes. It reminded me of one of Phinney's
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: drive-thru orders. Trying to get the number eight, and then
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: he keeps going and going and going.
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: Oh, Fitty.
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: So who's saying that Fitty has a fake girlfriend? What's
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: that all about, Bo?
• 29:00
  Speaker 7: This guy named Preston.
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: This guy hates me. Does he? Big time hater.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Okay, so you're not surprised that he's breaking this out. Wow,
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: what a prediction from Bigfoot Bailey, Mac. Remember, he was
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: one of the first ones that snuffed out a potential
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: wedding between Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift.
• 29:16
  Speaker 6: Oh, right away. He said they're going to get married.
• 29:18
  Speaker 6: I thought Bailey was crazy. Bigfoot Bailey. I've already got
• 29:21
  Speaker 6: Kelsey Swift vibes around Finney and the new lady.
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: That's huge.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: Because it's one thing for me to say it. It's
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: scary that I'm on here saying I have a good
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: feeling about y'all. But KB is like the relationship swami.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like, that is apparently his
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: wheelhouse right there. Finny, would you sacrifice Mama for this
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: to work out?
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: I thought she's already gone if Safe Carolina beats State.
• 29:43
  Speaker 7: Mama, I don't know. I may have to sacrifice... Clemson
• 29:47
  Speaker 7: LSU on Saturday night, and I am so torn up
• 29:50
  Speaker 7: about this.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: I'm nervous about Saturday.
• 29:52
  Speaker 6: They're already working on the third date here before the
• 29:55
  Speaker 6: second one even hits. I'm a little nervous about this one, though.
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: He's already meeting the friends.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: Meeting the friends, and it's while college football's on. Oh,
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: save that for tomorrow. Save that for tomorrow, content god.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: Should Fitty skip Clemson LSU?
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: Fitty went from a Mexican restaurant home game to the
• 30:11
  Speaker 6: ultimate pressure cooker, date number three. Getting evaluated at a
• 30:15
  Speaker 6: party by your friends? Oh, my God.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: Date four will be in the middle of a Tar
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: Heel game, and it will be meeting the parents.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: That's how I have it scheduled.
• 30:23
  Speaker 6: He'll be on his honeymoon by the time we get
• 30:25
  Speaker 6: to week six.
• 30:26
  Speaker 7: It's Death Valley versus Death Valley. LSU's Lane Kiffin debut.
• 30:32
  Speaker 6: If you don't bring it on Saturday night, you're going
• 30:34
  Speaker 6: to be in Death Valley.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: Did you see Bone? Remember the guy, is it Plyburn?
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: Is that what his name is? The former LSU player,
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: the defensive end for Tampa. Did you see what he said?
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: I assume he got waived because he did a post-game
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: interview after their final preseason game and said, yeah, I'm
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: going to ask the team for my release.
• 30:54
  Speaker 6: They said that was a fake interview. That was fake.
• 30:57
  Speaker 6: Did he get released or no? I have to look
• 31:00
  Speaker 6: it up. I don't know.
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: Oh, okay.
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: So I saw a tweet about it, and then there
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: was a quote. Did I get AI'd?
• 31:04
  Speaker 6: There was a community note that said it wasn't a
• 31:06
  Speaker 6: real thing.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: Oh, shoot. I might have got AI'd. If that's what
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: you're talking about, yeah. All right. Well, let's look into
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: that when we come back. Let me check it out.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: I may need to admit I was wrong again, just
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: like I have all day with NC State. I'll check
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: it out, though. Let's see what we're talking about.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: All right, check that out. When we come back, it's
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: the wrap-up.
• 31:19
  Speaker 6: We get you set for a day and a night
• 31:22
  Speaker 6: in sports on Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.
• 31:43
  Speaker 8: Four score and 14 years ago, I got hired here
• 31:48
  Speaker 8: and came in really excited about running this program and
• 31:53
  Speaker 8: still am. And since that time, you know, the landscape
• 31:59
  Speaker 8: of college football has changed a lot. And just within
• 32:02
  Speaker 8: our own state, I think each school that I go
• 32:04
  Speaker 8: up against has had a minimum of three different head
• 32:07
  Speaker 8: coaches at each university and some of them more than that.
• 32:12
  Speaker 8: And I think that says a lot about what we've built.
• 32:17
  Speaker 8: And I think as media, a lot of times your
• 32:19
  Speaker 8: job is to talk about what we don't do well.
• 32:22
  Speaker 8: Today I get to talk about what we do do well.
• 32:25
  Speaker 8: And I think having staying power, being a consistent winner,
• 32:29
  Speaker 8: we've won the second most number of games in the
• 32:32
  Speaker 8: ACC in the last six years. We've won the second
• 32:35
  Speaker 8: most number of conference games and non-conference games. And with
• 32:40
  Speaker 8: that being said, I'm sick of being second. And these
• 32:43
  Speaker 8: guys know that.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: You know, we're here to do more. There you go.
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: That's Dave Dorn.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: Part of his preseason bravado tour. That was at ACC
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: Media Days. Tired of finishing second. You really are tired
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: of it. I got a feeling, Bone, that he doesn't
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: need to worry about finishing second. And by the way,
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: a lot of people pointed out that day, you never
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: finish second in the ACC. You've never played for an
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: ACC title. But you heard what he meant. The accumulation
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: of numbers over the last six years had them in second.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: But that, you know... That doesn't do you any good.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: State fans want a special season, and a lot of
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: people thought this could be the special season. It is
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: off to a hideous start, man.
• 33:25
  Speaker 6: Speaking of hideous, we were just sitting here during the break.
• 33:27
  Speaker 6: We had just talked about Philly's dating life for three minutes,
• 33:30
  Speaker 6: and we went to break, and... the building had a
• 33:32
  Speaker 6: power outage. Like that, was that God saying, I'm still
• 33:36
  Speaker 6: listening boys, what was going on here? What's going on outside?
• 33:39
  Speaker 6: It's not raining today. What's going on out there? We
• 33:42
  Speaker 6: can't see. We're trapped right now in here. Yes, they've
• 33:44
  Speaker 6: got us in a cave. We broadcast from the AWFNC
• 33:49
  Speaker 6: cave here, baby.
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: Matt, can I put out a shout out here? But
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: the cave has brought you bones. Oh, yeah, go ahead,
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: go ahead.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: But Harris Cherokee Casino and Resort, which Fitty says is
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: freaking awesome.
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: Him and KB were there the other night.
• 34:02
  Speaker 6: Fitty brought home, like, just, like, bags of food from
• 34:04
  Speaker 6: this place. Want to give a shout-out to Rock Hill
• 34:09
  Speaker 6: Ryan and Kyle S. Rock Hill Ryan says, Boyd, I
• 34:11
  Speaker 6: need a favor. Can you guys remind Kyle S., the
• 34:14
  Speaker 6: NC State fan texter, that he forgot to put in
• 34:17
  Speaker 6: my bet for Scottie Scheffler to win outright yesterday? I
• 34:21
  Speaker 6: would have had him at plus 425. Why didn't Ryan do.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: His own bet?
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: I don't know. They're old school. They go through a
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: guy named Vinny. Go through a guy named Sal. I
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: don't know. I mean, yeah, that's not right. But Ryan,
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: I would just put that in your own hands. Is
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: Kyle S. the NC State guy, too? Yes.
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he is, right?
• 34:41
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: Oh, man.
• 34:42
  Speaker 6: Yeah, because it says, also reminding that Tony Elliott is
• 34:45
  Speaker 6: Dave Dorn's daddy.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: There you go. Virginia, I was wrong about y'all. I
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: was wrong about basically every team that played this weekend, Bo.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: And not that many teams played this weekend. So how
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: many am I going to be wrong about next weekend?
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: You could have just stopped that.
• 34:57
  Speaker 7: I was wrong.
• 34:58
  Speaker 6: Picante wasn't wrong, though. He went 2-1 this weekend.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: Picante's back for all the fans of Picante's picks.
• 35:05
  Speaker 6: He gets another week because he went 2-1, baby. He's
• 35:08
  Speaker 6: going to go until he has a losing record, right?
• 35:09
  Speaker 6: That's the deal we have? That's the deal. So he
• 35:12
  Speaker 6: got it done. San Jose, um.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: A listener to the show, Bone, was texting me mocking
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: Picante at halftime because he had San Jose State plus 38.5.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: He said, Picante's pick looks terrible, and I'll be damned
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: if they didn't score 23 points in the fourth quarter
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: against USC to cover.
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: So anyway.
• 35:32
  Speaker 6: Picante Nation is growing right now. They're riding Picante right now.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: You alive, baby. You alive. What did you think of
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: that crowd at that USC game, by the way? It
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: was rough, man.
• 35:40
  Speaker 7: I know it's week zero and you're playing San Jose State,
• 35:43
  Speaker 7: but there was more people at my house this weekend
• 35:45
  Speaker 7: than there was at that football game.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: I hadn't seen a crowd that small since the Fittie
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: Marlowe fan club meeting last week.
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: Just kidding, Finney. Just kidding.
• 35:55
  Speaker 6: Rock Hill Ryback is in South Carolina. The lights are
• 35:57
  Speaker 6: going out again. Every time Finney talks, the lights are
• 35:59
  Speaker 6: blinking now. Rock Hill Ryan's in South Carolina. Can't bet
• 36:03
  Speaker 6: in South Carolina.
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: Are we on the air?
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: Our microphone thing's out, too. Or is it just mine?
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: Just yours.
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: Oh, shoot.
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: I got another one over here, though.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: No, no.
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: Oh, no.
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: Is this one working? Oh, he's back. He's back. Is
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: this on? Yeah, you're on. Yeah. When those lights went out,
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: it totally knocked out that thing. Oh, we're back over
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: here now.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: Oh, back on over here, too.
• 36:27
  Speaker 6: I will not be denied. What we're finding out here
• 36:30
  Speaker 6: is you will move for the microphones. What I was
• 36:32
  Speaker 6: saying was. How quick did I jump to that second mic?
• 36:34
  Speaker 6: Rock Hill Ryan can't bet in South Carolina. That's why
• 36:36
  Speaker 6: his buddy doesn't.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I hate that about. Get with the times, South Carolina.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: Get with the times.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: It's just free income for your state. In North Carolina,
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: when can we bet on horses on the apps? Yeah,
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: that's taking a long time. Can we do that at
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: some point?
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: That's annoying, too.
• 36:50
  Speaker 6: I feel like I could win a lot of money
• 36:51
  Speaker 6: on horses because other sports I suck at.
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: We're betting on all these other sports.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: Why don't you open that up, too? Let's read some
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: of these texts here and see what we have. Bone Man, 7045709610.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: Willie P. Says no ketchup on your burger, Finny? You're
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: a cereal killer.
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: Hey, guys.
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: I thought Willie was a ketchup hater. Is that just
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: hot dogs? No, he says real men don't put ketchup
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: on hot dogs, but they do on burgers. I'm confused.
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: I'm very confused, Finny.
• 37:18
  Speaker 6: I'm a mayo on a burger guy, and then Willie
• 37:20
  Speaker 6: P had a problem with that also.
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: He don't like any of you guys.
• 37:22
  Speaker 7: I'm a mustard on a burger guy, because here's my
• 37:25
  Speaker 7: take about ketchup.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: Poverty condiment.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: Pfft.
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: What does that mean?
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: No ketchup on your fries? No, I don't eat ketchup
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: on anything. Okay, then you just... Do you like tomatoes?
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: Do you like tomato sauce?
• 37:38
  Speaker 7: I mean, yes, because I guess when I eat pizza,
• 37:40
  Speaker 7: but that's not the only way I eat a tomato.
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: Okay, interesting. So you're just kind of anti-tomato. What about
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: a BLT? You don't put the T in there? Don't
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: eat BLTs. He just eats... BL. BL. I'm glad you
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: did because my mind was not getting to where I
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: needed to be.
• 37:55
  Speaker 7: The bacon and the lettuce is added to the ham,
• 37:57
  Speaker 7: the roast beef.
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: The turkey.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: Let me say something. If he eats a BLT, hold
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: the T and the L. Can I say this? Yeah,
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: and why would lettuce be on it? Can I say this?
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: I like ketchup, mustard, and mayo on my burgers. I
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: like the mixture when they all get mixed up.
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: I kind of like that.
• 38:15
  Speaker 6: I don't like mustard that much unless it involves honey.
• 38:18
  Speaker 6: Do you think it's a poverty condiment?
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: No.
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: I'm a honey man, so I like honey mustard.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: Finney's descriptive bashing is just tremendous.
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: It really is. Willie P.
• 38:28
  Speaker 6: Also told me when he said mayonnaise on a burger
• 38:32
  Speaker 6: is gross, and then he went through what he likes,
• 38:33
  Speaker 6: and he said, it's what Nick Wilson does.
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: Oh, he's quoting Nick Wilson. Why are you doing that?
• 38:39
  Speaker 6: Is it because he's a bigger boy? Is that what
• 38:41
  Speaker 6: you do when you agree?
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: It's like agreeing with a very smart analyst about a
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: football team or something.
• 38:47
  Speaker 6: I would hate for someone to tweet Nick Wilson right
• 38:49
  Speaker 6: now and tell him that Willie caught him fat today.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: Someone pass the word along that Willie, for some reason,
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: is quoting Nick when it comes to food tanks.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: I thought Willie was his own food tank man.
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: I never thought you needed to quote anybody out.
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: Let's see.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: Our guy MHB says the golf course was packed with
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: Carolina Blue yesterday. Walmart must have sold out. Funny how
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: that happens. All those Carolina Blues shirts. I bet there
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: was no red out there on the golf courses yesterday, Bo.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: I bet state fans did not put that gear on.
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: Spoiled sportsman. I can't get down with this. He puts
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: steak sauce on his burger. That's, ugh.
• 39:24
  Speaker 7: You don't like steak sauce on a burger?
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: I don't like steak sauce really at all. I don't really,
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: I don't really like, no. A, one.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: I mean, I guess, all right on a burger. Definitely
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: don't put it on your steak. No, that's what Ranch
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: is for.
• 39:34
  Speaker 7: For me, I like it if I'm getting like a
• 39:36
  Speaker 7: cheddar cheeseburger with an onion ring or two.
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I guess I shouldn't knock that totally.
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: With some bacon?
• 39:41
  Speaker 6: I think we're starting to see why. I guess I'm
• 39:43
  Speaker 6: not going to knock that. I'm starting to see why
• 39:45
  Speaker 6: Fitty's nickname on the side is Deceptic Tank.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: What?
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: I loved it.
• 39:51
  Speaker 6: Finney, no wonder you get the rumbles back there, man.
• 39:54
  Speaker 6: My gracious almighty.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh. This texter says, can't get to heaven. Oh,
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: this is our guy, Joey from Huntersville. Can't get to
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: heaven in a red canoe. God's favorite color is Carolina blue.
• 40:06
  Speaker 6: Jeez.
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: What is that, Dr. Seuss? Is that a famous one, Finney?
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: I haven't really heard that one. I got to tell you,
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: I hate State as much as anybody. I've never heard
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: that before. Work that in.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: Apparently you should work that in. Let's see here. This
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: dude said, what a Monday morning it is. My heels win,
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: State loses. and Mac is asking Bone to hit him
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: with a blunt object. My God, what a day. That
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: was only if I hype up State in the summer again.
• 40:35
  Speaker 6: This guy didn't understand that you said blunt object. He
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: said he has a blunt for Mac. He may need
• 40:42
  Speaker 6: one of those, too. I could use one of those.
• 40:44
  Speaker 6: That was a stressful Saturday for Wolfpack Mac.
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: But guess what? That's just week zero. Does it even count?
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: Ha ha ha!
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: Because now it's week one. Now it counts, baby. Now
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: you're back, Mac.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: I know this. I guarantee State ain't losing in week one, y'all.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: Ain't ain't a chance. We got somebody predicting Richmond in
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: week two beats NC State.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: Get out of here.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: Oh, no.
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: Just get out. Come on, man.
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: We'll pack Mac feels comfortable about that one at least.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: Just save that just in case.
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: Oh, man.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: Gas House Earl says, speaking of Bone being on a roll,
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: that man pup Murphy has some rolls on him. Why
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: are we body shaming a dog? Yeah, I'm sure you're
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: a fit gas house Earl. Can we do a side-by-side
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: Earl of you and Murphy?
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: And let Twitter voters pick the more fit. When I
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: think of athletes, I think of gas house Earl. Spence
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: has a problem, though, with Fitty. Fitty texts Spence says, Fitty,
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: I heard your update. Where's Flushing's Meadow? Thought it was
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: Flushing Meadow. Big tennis guy. Flushing's Meadow is what he
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: calls his, what he uses the bathroom outdoors. He calls
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: him Flushing's Meadow.
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: If you use the bathroom outdoors, you don't get a flush.
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: I know, I know. When he has those onion ring burgers.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: I was just trying to be silly. I don't know
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: if it worked or not, Finny. All right, we're out
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: of here, y'all. Oh, somebody says, Willie has to work
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: in a little token poke by Toklabadi.
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: Ah!
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: So, Willie, we liked your Abada Boom, baby, but next
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: time it's got to be a Toki Poke.
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: Do the Toki Poke, yes. Toki Poke, that's not bad either.
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: We're out of here, baby.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: This just in. We own Atlanta again. Can't wait for
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: week two as well. All right, we're out of here, y'all.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: Hopefully you enjoyed it. If not, ask WFNZ for a refund, everybody.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: Get your refund. Get your money back.
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: We're out of here, y'all. Good work out of the bone, man.
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: The Fit Dog.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: We'll talk to you tomorrow when... I have a feeling
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: we'll have a new veteran linebacker in Okereke. I feel
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: like we'll have maybe another couple new players. So we'll
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: talk about tomorrow on the Mac and Bone Show. Colin Hoggard,
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: Charlotte Sports Today, coming up next.