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EP043 Angelology Part 2: What Dwells Beyond - Continued · The Immutable Word

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Welcome back to The Immutable Word and Happy New Year. Hope everyone has had
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some time to spend with family and maybe friends, maybe even sitting down and
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reflecting on what they're looking to do in the new year and reflecting on the old year as well.
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It's always a great time to really sit down and think about goals and how you're
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going to accomplish those in 2026.
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And I did some searching because I always get pretty interested on the metrics
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about what is the percentage of people who actually achieve their New Year's goal that they set.
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So, for example, studies suggest, and some evidence suggests,
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based off of surveys and things like that, that it's in the single digits,
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and it's pretty astounding.
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So they say that only about 8% to 9% of people actually achieve the goals they set for New Year's.
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And there's a multitude of reasons for that. That it's easy to say that I'm
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just going to go ahead and do something.
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But if you don't have a plan and it's not specific, it's not time bound,
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you don't have anything that makes you accountable.
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Well, guess what? You're likely to fail and people then abandon those goals throughout the year.
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And so I was just curious, there's a table here, like how quickly do people
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actually abandon their goals?
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So the commitment over time tends to decline significantly, and some of the
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percentages are listed out here.
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I just did a quick look up on it. But one week after New Year's Day,
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the percentage of people that are still committed is around 77%.
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Two weeks, it drops down by 2% to 75%.
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One month after New Year's Day, it drops down to 64%. And then six months after
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the new year, it's down to 46% by the time you get to the end of the year.
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Long-term follow-up, that's where you get that 8% success rate.
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So it is fairly low when you're thinking about specific goals,
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whether if it's financial goals, maybe it's educational goals,
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maybe it's what's the most popular one that's out there, it's weight loss, right? It's health.
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People want to make the goal or I want to make the goal to be more healthy.
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What does that actually entail? Because that's a very broad goal.
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If you want to lose weight, well, maybe a metric can be, maybe success looks
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like 20 pounds is lost over the course of the year, but what are you going to do?
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What's actionable about it?
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There's a pretty good framework when it comes to goals called SMART goals,
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And that's an acronym that stands for specific measurable.
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A is actionable. R is realistic.
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And then T is time-based. So that's a really good framework for building goals.
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If it meets all of those criteria, then you're more likely to actually achieve
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them because they're specific. You can measure them.
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You can keep yourself accountable to them. And if you want to keep it very simple,
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really, it just needs to be specific and time-based.
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So maybe somebody has a financial goal and they want to save maybe $10,000 for
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something very important over the course of a year.
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It's easy to say, well, I want to save $10,000.
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Well, is it something that's realistic? Do you have the income to be able to
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do that? But you need to have a plan.
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And that plan includes putting that into your budget.
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And then maybe it's how much you need to take out every week.
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So if you get paid, you know, there's 52 weeks in a year, maybe you're sitting
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aside so much every week.
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So whatever 10,000 is divided by 52 weeks, for example.
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And I'll do some quick math here while I have my calculator up.
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But 10,000...
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Divided by 52 is, you know, you need to put away about $192 a week to achieve
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that goal. So you got something that's measurable.
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And then you can go back and revisit that goal and see how you're doing six months in.
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And here's the thing, maybe you may not achieve the outcome that you're looking
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for, $10,000, but what if you're 50% successful?
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You were able to save $5,000. You never abandoned your goal.
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You stayed as consistent as you could, but things in life popped up.
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Well, guess what? You still achieve something. You achieve five grand.
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And this can go for anything else. Like I had a goal of reading at least 12
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books all the way through in a year.
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I know that doesn't seem like a whole lot, but I was just trying to be realistic
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with how life is. It's very busy.
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So anyways, I encourage folks to sit down and think about goals that way.
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If they're specific, if they're measurable, if they're actionable,
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if they're realistic, and if they're time-based, well, guess what?
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That percentage of actually achieving those goals and meeting the things that
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you want to accomplish, you're going to have a higher percentage rate of actually completing them.
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So that's where most people fail from the sounds of it, just from the surveys
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and the evidence that I see here, is that they just miss those really key components.
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So anyways, I'm not sure what this has to do with angelology,
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because this is actually part two of episode 42.
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Sorry, I'm losing my mind here. So I would suggest folks that are just now tuning
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in and have not listened to the Angelology episode,
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definitely listen to that because we're sort of in the middle of the seven classes of life.
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I will do my best to try to recap here just really briefly.
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I won't spend too much time on it, but just recap what we covered just in case
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you just want to go ahead and go through this episode, which is perfectly fine.
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But I just encourage to go through the previous one because we cover a lot more,
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cover a lot more detail so just a
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couple things a couple main points from the very beginning because we also did
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an intro to it so again i think that's going to be in episode 39 if i'm not
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mistaken i've been mixing up episodes so apologies but yeah that should be in episode 39.
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And again if you'd like to stick here and listen to this episode in a way that's
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perfectly fine but you can backtrack and listen to 39, then 42, and go from there.
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So in the first episode, we had covered, you know, what are angels?
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And some of the common misperception of angels. Angels don't have wings, but cherubs do.
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And the interesting thing about angels and cherubs, people get that confused
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as they think they're one and the same, and they're not.
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And that's something that we're actually going to cover in one of the classes here.
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The thing about angels is that they are indistinguishable from man.
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They look exactly like them.
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An angel's primary role is not a messenger.
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A lot of people think, well, angels deliver messages and things like that.
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They actually execute judgment, and you can see that throughout the Bible.
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They pretty much wipe people out.
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But you'll see that in Exodus, for example, the angel of death,
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or I think the destroyer.
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You'll see God using them as judgment against Israel and other places as well.
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So primarily, they're there to execute judgment. And then going into our last
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episode, we started to go through the different classes of life,
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which does include angels, and we spend some time on that, and that's why that
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episode went kind of long.
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But the first three classes of life that we went through, and the classes are
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broken up by categories.
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Which are composed of classification or the name of the group to which the life
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form belongs, as an example. And then you have origins.
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Where are they from? It tells us whether the life form is a creation of God
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or made by some other means.
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And then you have residents. Where do they reside? So, do they currently reside
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in, for example, earth, hell, the first heaven, second heaven, third heaven?
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And then what is their relation to God? So, it refers to a fallen or just state before God.
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So, fallen life forms were once in a just standing, for example,
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but are currently under the curse of sin and separated from God.
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An interesting note here that's worth calling out, illegitimate life form cannot
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be classified in a fallen state because neither it nor its progenitors,
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if it has any, were ever in a justified state before God.
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All right, so, and then the fifth is redeemable. Are they redeemable,
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yes or no, or not applicable?
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So, redeemable states in a yes, no, or not applicable fashion whether the redeeming
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blood of the Lord Jesus Christ extends to cover the curse and nature of the life form.
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And then number six, the last, describes a few unique characteristics and details of the life form.
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So that's the criteria or the categories for each of the life forms that we're covering.
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The first one that we had covered was creature, which is basically animals,
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beasts, creeping things like cows, cows, birds, butterflies.
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Fishes, cats, things like that.
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That's in the creature class. Just one other note here is that the word creature
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in the Bible is used in a broad sense that can refer to any living thing created
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by God, hence the word relationship to creature and create.
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So it can sometimes refer to man and may even refer to cherubim,
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if you see Ezekiel 1, but the most common and most used reference is to the animal.
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And then the second here that we covered was, of course, man.
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We run through the categories. Man is redeemable.
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Then you have the angels, the angelic life form, which is where we had stopped.
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So the remaining to be covered, the remaining four, since we covered three,
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will be the cherub, which is a very interesting life form.
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And then celestial creature, which is essentially a spiritual animal.
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And then symbiotic life form. And then finally, the counterfeit life form.
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So stay tuned as we cover these. I think that it's really, really interesting
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stuff going through the different life forms, and we do plan to cover more.
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This is all based off of the book, What Dwells Beyond by Jeffrey Martis,
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and we're just covering just chapters 11 and 12.
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So if you have the book, that's what we're primarily covering right now.
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Chapters 11 and 12 are great reads, but we do have some plans to cover some
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other things in here as well, especially around the Angelology series.
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So, all right, that's enough of me talking.
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Without further ado, we'll go ahead and jump into this episode.
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So anyway, so we have the angel class, we have the man class,
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we have the creature class, then we have the cherub class. So they're a class
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in and of themselves, okay?
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They're direct creation of God. They obviously do not reproduce.
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They're residents, they're in the third heaven, the heavenly cherubim are.
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And then there's one, and that's going to be the devil himself.
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He used to be the fifth cherub.
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There was four cherubs that are identified in the book of Ezekiel.
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But the Bible describes Lucifer, he says, thou art fallen.
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He talks about, O cherub, that he said, the anointed cherub that covereth.
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And these other cherubim, when you find out, these other cherubim actually cover
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and surround the throne of God.
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So at some point, the fifth cherub, not the fifth angel, he's not an angel.
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There's only four cherubim. There's an innumerable company of angels,
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but there's only four cherub.
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Distinctions matter. He's called a cherub. He's never called an angel.
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But the Bible says he can transform himself into an angel of life.
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That's where people probably get asked up. He's not an angel. He can transform.
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If you transform into an angel, that means you're not an angel.
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Which is when it goes to transforming this capability of cherubim.
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Right. At least that's what's being implied.
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And of course, these are probably the most weirdest creatures that you see. Very unique.
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Yeah. So, you know, they can be described as humanoid, as Jeffrey Mardis says
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here, with two arms, two legs, hands, and feet, and a head.
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But their appearance is much more extraordinary than that of an ordinary human.
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Also known as beasts, cherubims are multi-winged. They're the only winged creatures. Well, not the only.
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You have two women that have stork wings in Zechariah.
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But they're the only heavenly creatures that are associated directly with God
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as a direct creation of God to have wings. Okay?
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Now, Jeffrey Martis says, and he believes that, and the reason why,
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because you don't see a lot of distinction in Scripture about them,
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is that seraphim is another name for cherubim.
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Because they're also described as having wings. And of course,
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the Ark of the Covenant, and, you know, where the rod that budded,
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Aaron's rod that budded, and the table, the commandments, are put into the Ark,
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and it's put into the tabernacle and the Holy of Olies.
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They put a cherubim there facing each other, two cherubim.
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And of course, these cherub, they're multi-winged creatures.
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They have a human-like torso with arms, hands, but their legs are calf-like,
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and they have two cloven feet. Their heads, which are most unusual,
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they project four different faces on all four sides.
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Front, which is a man, the left is an ox, the back is an eagle, and the right is a lion.
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That's Ezekiel chapter 1, verses 5 through 10.
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So while the cherub outwardly appear to be a mixture of human and animal life
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forms, in reality it's not.
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No human or animals are used to create the cherubim class.
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Remember, they're a direct creation of God. You know what I mean?
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They're not a reproduced kind, basically.
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Yeah, I could see somebody coming to that conclusion like, well,
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they got the face of a beast and an eagle and a man.
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Yeah, because the assumption will be, oh, well, a man, an eagle,
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and an ox, they all came together and created.
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That's not what they are. So they're not a hybrid life form.
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They are a direct creation of God. That's why they're in and of their own class. Okay?
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So no humans, obviously, were used to create the cherub in class.
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The cherub is not a mixture of other life forms, but like the other six,
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they're a separate and distinct life form unto themselves.
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They're confused, obviously, with an angel, because in Roman Catholic imagery, you know what you see?
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A young, naked little child with wings, a little fat angel child.
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You know what I mean? That's what they call cherubim. They don't.
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But guess what? It has nothing to do with the Bible.
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That's a common theme whenever you come to Roman Catholicism.
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It has nothing to do with the Bible.
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Anyway, side note there. Imagine that. That was free. As preachers always say,
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that was free. It didn't cost anything.
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He goes, while the Bible describes an innumerable company of angels,
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Hebrews 12, 22, only five cherubim are mentioned.
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Ezekiel refers to four living creatures and Revelation refers to four beasts.
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So Ezekiel 1-5 with Revelation 4, verses 68, Revelation 5, verse 6,
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verses 8 and 14, and Revelation 6, verses 1 and 6, and Revelation 7, Revelation 14.
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So obviously you see the beasts mentioned, and those beasts,
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and the argument that Martis makes is that the beasts in Revelation are your
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cherubim that you find in Ezekiel.
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The fifth cherub who specifically enumerated is Lucifer.
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He was once the anointed cherub that covereth, but sin and iniquity caused this
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being to lose, you know, his, obviously his place and his power.
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His position. Right. His position of authority.
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So that's the cherub class. So cherubs are not angels. So you have the cherub
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class, you have the angel class, you have man class, creature class.
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Then you have the celestial creature class. One of my favorites.
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Direct creation, residence is third heaven.
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Relation to gods, they're just, redeemable, not applicable.
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So the title celestial creature is obviously found nowhere in scripture,
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but it's used to describe the biblical class of supernatural creatures,
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which reside not in outer space, but exclusively in the third heaven.
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These life forms have a just non-fallen state before God.
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They're not under the curse of sin. They're not affected by sin and evidently
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appear identical to certain earth-based animals.
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So you have celestial creatures, you have horses of fire, like in 2 Kings 2.11.
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They're unearthly, supernatural creatures, which exhibit the powers of flight
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and pervious to fire, the adverse effects of outer space, so forth and so on.
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And we see the Lord Jesus Christ and his saints descend on these same creatures
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in Revelation chapter 19,
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and Elijah rides out in a chariot pulled by these creatures,
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and Elisha reveals the beings standing in battle array, and so forth and so on.
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Which is interesting, and he didn't cover it here, and I'd have to look if Martyrs
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does it in any of his other books, but the celestial creature,
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I've heard chariots of fire may be a separate celestial creature as well. The chariot?
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Yeah. Because not- Chariots of fire. Non-classical way that we think of chariot.
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We think of chariot as a- As a cart or- A cart that's pulled by these celestial
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horses, right? Yeah. But-
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I don't have, I should have thought, I should have looked at it before,
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but I've heard and I've read some where, and then of course,
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if you look at the wording in scripture, it's almost as if the chariots of fire
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are a separate entity in and of themselves. Or they're like sort of alive.
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Yeah. Something like that. Unique. Yep. So you have the celestial creature,
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you have the cherubim, you have the angel class, you have the human,
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and then you have the beast class. Who wouldn't want one of these things?
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I mean, a fiery horse. Well, obviously Jesus Christ. I mean,
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it's important enough for him and his armies, right? We're going to ride on him.
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I can't wait to ride on him. All I know is it's going to be crazy going through
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a steed. What's that song?
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You know, I'm going to leave like Superman, but I'm going to come back like a Lone Ranger.
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Oh, yeah. Yeah, quite literally. Oh, yeah, man.
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All right. So, classification. Then the next classification next to Celestial Creature is symbiotic.
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And there's only one of these. And it's obviously a direct creation.
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It's in the third heaven. And relation to God is not applicable as far as we
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know, and it's not redeemable, obviously, because it's not in any kind of fallen state.
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So the sixth life classification is the most rare, mysterious form of life mentioned
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in the entire Bible, being the only one of its kind.
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This living machine of sorts exhibits a correlation between flying wheels and
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the cherubim, because you only see it show up with the cherubim and Ezekiel.
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The scriptures reveal a symbiotic relationship. That's why they're called symbiotic.
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That's what this classification is.
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Relationship is so intricate that it states the spirit of the living creature was in the wheels.
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Guess what that is? That's life, some kind of intelligent life within a machine.
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A spirit in the machine. Yep.
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We've heard, you know, there's like ghost in the machine, things like that, right?
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Yeah. So anyway, you know, eventually when we get into, you know,
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the seventh kind is going to be the kind that is, what is it called?
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The counterfeit. There you go.
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Slipping. I mean, the counterfeit kind is like, for example,
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we start talking about AI or the image of the beast coming to life.
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You're talking about a machine.
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And this is what transhumanism is.
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Not transgenderism. Transhumanism is a cross between machine and human life. The Borg.
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Right. That is exactly what. Matter of fact, he has an entire section on the
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Borg. Some sort of organic.
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He actually talked, Brother Martyrs actually talked about it.
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Yeah, because he says Hollywood creates a counterfeit of what the Bible talks about with the Borg.
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So anyway, it's interesting that he says that because, again,
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symbiotic is what does it show us?
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That there is a direct creation of God where there's a living creature in a machine.
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So guess what the devil's going to do? He's going to counterfeit it.
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Yeah, you know where my mind goes. You know where it's going.
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I don't know where it's going. I'm scared.
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I'm scared to go there, but let's go. I just want to believe.
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But the counterfeit, this is where, and this is from separate research,
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separate observations.
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I got to bring up the UFO, you know, UAPs, that those, whatever those beings
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are, are somehow connected into those machines.
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They're integrated into their machines. And that's why they're able to,
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I'm going to the theoretical end here, but it's just based off of different sources.
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Are you going Neuralink? Neuralink, there you go.
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That's it. Bunch of nerds. But honestly, that's, but there's the potential there.
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That's what I'm saying is like those machines are spiritually.
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But just to be clear, I don't want to confuse the audience.
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This symbiotic classification here, this is a legitimate direct creation of
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God. what we're talking about, AI, transhumanism, things like that,
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that's the counterfeit classification.
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So this particular life form in and of itself, we're not entirely sure what
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purpose it serves and so forth and so on, but there's something there.
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Here's what's interesting. He has an inset and there's a book by Joseph F.
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Blumbridge called The Spaceships of Ezekiel. And of course,
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he says, and he writes here in the inset, he says, all the opinions of those
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new age UFO sympathizers who like to cherry pick the Bible and claim that the
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prophet did not know what he was looking at can be thrown into the dumpster where they belong.
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Ezekiel described exactly what he was witnessing, and it had nothing to do with
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flying saucers or spaceships from another planet.
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When you read the description of the thing on the previous page,
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it was not an interpretation, but it's simply believing the Bible as it is written.
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An interpretation could be found in the images above, which he's shown in the
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inset, you know, these Ezekiel's looking at a spaceship. Yeah.
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And that's, I've heard Bible believers say that's a spaceship.
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And that's when they think about Ezekiel and reading the passage in Ezekiel,
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they think that, well, see, there's UFOs in the Bible. Right.
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And that's clear. Oh, there it is. He actually talks about modern UFOs or satanic
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counterfeits. Yep. Yes.
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So he calls it symbiotic, obviously, because of the definition.
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He says the definition of symbiotic is living together in more or less intimate
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association or close union of two dissimilar organisms.
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Such a relationship is evidenced nowhere else in Scripture. And again,
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like you just said, perhaps certain modern UFOs are satanic counterfeits of
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this particular Bible life form.
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So a situation where the spirits of living creatures are being shared with flying
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machines. If true, it would explain why so many objects seem to move and react with intelligence.
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But if this is the case, it should come as no big surprise to the Bible believer,
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you know, obviously because it's already captured in the Bible,
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that we're going to see this counterfeit.
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So the last kind, and then we'll finish up here.
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I'm sure this is probably a longer episode than we anticipated.
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But this is, I mean, this is the simplest chapter. It's like the high level summary.
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It is funny. This is like the simplest chapter. And I'm telling you,
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if you don't have this book, I'm telling you, you guys need to make Jeff Martis
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happy this Christmas and everybody listening to us.
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All five of you that are listening, buy this book.
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It's a great read over the Christmas season. That's right.
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You read it with a cup of hot chocolate and, you know, in front of your bale
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tree and, you know, worshiping the God of this world.
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It's going to be great. Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. I don't want to be a Grinch. I like the lights.
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I love the weather. I love hot chocolate. Okay.
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All right. So the last class, and this is the only one that falls outside of
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the legitimate life forms that God created Genesis 1, is the counterfeit.
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So their origin is other. They're obviously not a direct relation of God,
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and they're obviously not a reproduction after its own kind.
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Residents, earth, possibly other undisclosed locations.
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And this is where I would put in parentheses, interdimensional.
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Other dimensions, right? Because it's spiritual. Right.
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In relation to God, they're illegitimate. They have nothing to do with the direct relation to God.
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He's got an illustration here of the counterfeit. class, and he puts may appear
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as an amalgam of various legitimate animals, but not always.
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Amalgamation, right? So you got like a horse, you have horns,
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you have, you know, this is, this is the picture he's showing here,
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supposed to be the locust from Revelation.
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And that's, that come out of the bottomless pit. They may be under the headship
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of a fallen angel, Abaddon or Apollyon.
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Maybe an image, cybernetic, genetic organism created via science, sorcery, or both.
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Can't speak today. All right. So about what the counterfeit life consists of
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beings which are neither direct creations of God nor sired by any same life
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forms previously in existence.
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These mysterious beings are misfits whose origins come about through other means.
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The majority of those which fall into this classification can have the appearance
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of mixtures and amalgamations of life forms that are already in existence.
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There's no scriptural evidence for their direct classification into any of the
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six God-ordained life classes.
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That's why they're called counterfeits. For the most part, their physical appearance
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dictates that there's something different.
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The primary beings in scripture which fall into the counterfeit classification include giants,
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winged women, pit locusts, the horseman army of the killer angels,
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the life forms, And these life forms are probably the product of joining of strange flesh.
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That means uniting life forms of different kinds and makeup and are associated
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with confusion, Leviticus 18, 23, which, and here's what's crazy.
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When you go through Leviticus 18, there's a ton of prohibitions with lying with beasts as mankind.
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So here's a question. And somebody's often asked me, you know,
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we haven't done a Sasquatch episode, but eventually maybe.
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Here's the thing already you know do i
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believe what the world believes about cryptozoology not
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necessarily i believe that there is a satanic counterfeit
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at hand and i think you know brother martis lays out a great a great case with
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this counterfeit class is that they're not legitimate creations of god and they're
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not the reproduction of a kind but they're cross pollination of kinds.
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So what if an angel crossbreeded with a beast?
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What would it produce? If an angel can crossbreed across kinds,
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right? Think about that, across kinds.
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We can't go to an animal kind and produce a baby.
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An angel can. Yeah. You're saying that's what begs the question is that they can.
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Possibility. And you get these weird creatures like half man, half horse.
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Like mothman, dogman. A bunch of these mythology-type characters that are- What if that were true?
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I don't know. I'm just saying, if an angel can cohabitate with a human being,
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which is not the same class.
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They can potentially cohabitate with any other life forms or strange flesh.
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They're the only ones that can.
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That's outside their classification. But remember what Martis,
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he clarified at the beginning of the chapter.
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He says, this counterfeit is either a strange flesh union or it's a laboratory experiment.
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Manufactured. Yeah.
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Like, what was it, Dr. Zhivago on that, the island of Dr. Moreau?
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The island of Dr. Moreau.
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You never saw that in the 1960s? I wasn't born. Yeah, but you were thought of.
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But, no, but in the 1960s, you have to look it up.
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The island of Dr. Moreau, and I'm sure some of our older folks listening may
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be aware of the island of Dr. Moreau. But the island of Dr.
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Moreau was a doctor, a mad scientist that was crossbreeding animals and humans
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and coming up with abominations on that island.
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So anyway, interesting. Back in the 1960s. Yep. H.G. Wells. Yep. H.G. Wells. Yep.
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So this counterfeit class, the scriptures show that confusion is never associated with anything good.
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It's associated with shame, envy, strife, sin, and every evil work,
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according to James 3.16.
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And God is not the author of confusion, obviously. The giants have a direct
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connection with the fallen sons of God.
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The winged women have a direct connection with wickedness in Zechariah 5, 7-9.
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The pit locusts have a direct connection with the angel of the bottomless pit, Revelation 9-11.
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And the horseman army is spearheaded by four killer angels in Revelation 9, verses 13-19.
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So, disturbingly, others in the counterfeit class can appear as exact duplicates
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of legitimate life forms.
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Exodus 7-11-12 and Exodus 8-7.
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These evidently are not clones whose creation must have access to original genetic
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materials, but are somehow raw replicas not attained through procreation or scientific methods.
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This rarely discussed phenomenon of the counterfeit class creation is scheduled
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to rear its ugly head primarily during the Great Tribulation.
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It's purpose, deception, destruction.
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So anyway, he goes through that in another chapter into more detail.
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But things like, you know, the cockatrice, he has...
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Copterics. Our copterics was the lizard-like bird whose fossilized remains first
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discovered 1861, maybe very well. The Bible's cockatrice.
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But anyway, you see counterfeits of those things. Like say, for example,
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the locusts, you have demon locusts.
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You have regular locusts and you have demon locusts. And what's interesting
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in the book of Job, Job 41, when it's talking about Leviathan,
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at the end of that chapter, it says he's the king over all the children of pride.
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And the Bible said it talks about and
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it talks about locusts there it talks about in the book of Revelation they
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had a king over them whose name was Abaddon or
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Apollyon yeah so anyway so really what it comes down to this this chapter 11
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is he's basically collecting and organizing all the scriptural information regarding
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all the different life forms found in the Bible seven primary categories of
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life the creature class the man class the angelic class the cherubic class the
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celestial creature class,
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the symbiotic class, and then you have the counterfeit class,
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which, and then of course you have the actual eighth category,
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which would be God himself.
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Recognizing the difference between these life forms has helped divide the classes
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into their respective groups.
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Without exception, all life in the universe, within or without the Bible,
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will fall into one of these groups.
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There are no other options. Even unclean spirits and devils,
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beings which once inhabited physical bodies, may be classified somewhere within
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this Bible-based system.
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Since the modern alien phenomenon deals with eyewitnesses who claim to have
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apparently encountered life,
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the Christian must determine where within these seven groups the mysterious
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creature fits, whatever it is.
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That means the greys, right?
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The Nordics, is it the Nordic class? Yeah, the different types of alien classes.
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Yeah, the different types of alien classes. They have to fall within one of
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these seven categories.
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Yeah, which likely will fall into counterfeit. Yep.
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So that is the different classes of life forms in the Bible.
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And the one we're studying, obviously, deep diving into is angels.
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So angelology. But it's important to understand all the seven life forms,
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the classes that are found within the word of God.
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I think it was, again, like we said in the very beginning, it was a good way
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to kind of set the groundwork as we begin talking a little bit more about this.
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I'm sure we're going to transcend the angelology topic and maybe start looking at it.
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What we want to tie into, you know, like we said at the beginning of this series,
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was there's a lot of confusion around angelology.
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Yeah. There's a lot of New Ageism and cultism and mysticism around it.
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And it's important for us to really clearly define and clarify what the biblical
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doctrine of angels is, because there's a lot of believers that are duped into that stuff.
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There's believers I know of that have fallen into the trap of New Ageism because
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they've been studying angels.
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And there's a lot of people, I mean, I minister in the prisons,
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and I can't tell you how many times a prisoner, when I ask them if they're saved,
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if they're trusting the Lord Jesus Christ, or if they've been saved,
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and I ask in their testimony, it's always an angel is involved in their story.
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Interesting. Right. And, of course, we talked about it last time that it's interesting
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that the Koran and the Book of Mormon were both produced by angels, apparently.
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And the Bible says in Galatians, whether we or an angel from God preach any
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other gospel, let him be accursed.
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So it's important, man. I'm telling you, it's not such a fringe doctrine as
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some of our fundamentalist brethren like to think.
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Like, oh, you guys are talking about something. What is that going to do for
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my bank account? What is that going to do for my marriage?
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I don't know what it can do for you, but it's still the truth,
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regardless of what it pragmatically can do for you.
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It is still truth that is captured in the Word of God.
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And we're commanded to prove all things. We are commanded to be students of
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the Word of God. Well, yeah.
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So we have to look at it. I know he says in here, as strange as it can be,
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as fringe, and obviously not quoting specifically, but verbatim,
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but he says, it's just what it says.
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We believe it and we move on. And let me ask you this.
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What are you going to do when you do come across an individual that is on the
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fringe and looking into ufology, cryptozoology? Yeah, you're going to dismiss them?
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I mean, yeah, and they're looking for truth and they're asking you,
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oh, well, you're a Christian. What do you think about all this?
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Yeah, you're going to call them names, tell them crazy, don't look into that
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stuff. Oh, that's just all devil worship. Yeah.
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Well, why don't you show them what the Bible says about it, open their eyes,
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and realize that the God of the universe gave us some details and clues to be
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able to interpret the things that we see around us that people think is high
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strangeness, right? Yeah.
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I mean, look, the Christian ought to have the answer. Right.
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And if anybody should be able to identify, you know, the spiritual dimension
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and understand what the spiritual world consists of, it should be a Bible-believing Christian. Right. So.
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And, again, it's not a handbook for ministry. It's a paranormal book.
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There's a lot of weird stuff in it.
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But, yeah, we ought to give an answer to these things.
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One last thing. There's something very thematic about it is the counterfeit stuff.
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I kept on saying that a lot. But he, I think it's probably in the next chapter,
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and I know we'll probably cover
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it in a bit more detail as we begin to explore different topics in it.
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He was talking about the devil specifically. He quotes, I'm quoting him.
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He says, if I were forced to describe the devil in a single word,
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that word would undoubtedly be counterfeit. Counterfeit, yep. Yep.
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Well, he is. And we will talk about that a little bit because he's the greatest
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imitator of Jesus Christ. When he comes as the Antichrist, as the son of perdition, he shows up.
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The Bible says specifically that he will be worshiped above all that is called God.
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That means anything that people recognize as their God is going to be associated with the devil.
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He's going to counterfeit everything. He's wanted worship since the beginning.
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I will be like the most high, right? I will ascend above the stars of the cloud and so forth. and so on.
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That's what he wants. He wants worship.
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And that means that if he's going to show up, he's going to talk like,
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look like, act like, speak like, behave like Jesus Christ.
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And only the discerning brethren, only people, the Bible says that we're not
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supposed to be ignorant of his devices.
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We have to be able to identify those things. And so there's a spiritual,
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and here's what we're a lot of our, I would say our fringe brothers in Christ.
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You know, the ones that like to run around and read the book of Enoch.
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And you know what I'm saying? That they get caught up in that stuff.
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The Tom Horn guys, the Steve Quill guys, the guys that think that the church
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is going to go through the tribulation.
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They fail to understand the distinction between the church, you know, the Jew and the Gentile.
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Those guys, you know what they do is the problem is, is they get so wrapped
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up in just the occultic side of it that they don't understand that the rug is
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being pulled out from under them with false perversions.
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You know, Gail Ripplinger in the early 90s put out a book called The New Age Bible Versions, okay?
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When she put out that book, it is a in-depth study of how these new modern versions
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changed phraseology and words and things like that.
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So instead of saying, the Lord Jesus Christ, it just says, the Lord.
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Why would you take the distinct name Jesus Christ out of that title,
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the Lord? What do you call him the Lord?
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Some other Christ? You see the problem? And so that's what she does.
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She does such an excellent job showing that there is a pattern in these modern
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versions all pointing to the counterfeit Christ.
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That's what it is. And that's what the, you know, the Antichrist,
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you know, he's in the place of Christ.
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It's subversion, you know, and I love the way he put it. Because he even said,
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talking similarly about this is, you know, if you don't have access to the pure
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words of God, you have, among other things, no means of detecting Satan.
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And that's exactly what he wants. You know, most of us, most people think when
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they hear Antichrist, that term, they think, oh, against Christ.
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No, if you study types and typology in your Bible, you know what you study?
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You study the type and you study the anti-type.
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You know what the anti-type is? It's the legitimate form. And then the type
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is going to be the spiritualized form or the allegorical form.
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So that means the anti-type is the original type. So when we say type antichrist
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is a type of the Lord Jesus Christ, it's a copy, it's an imitation of.
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It's not against Christ, as some people think.
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So you got to be careful with terms like that. But you also have to look at
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how the scripture uses that term.
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Antichrist is, there's many, because Jesus Christ even said,
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he goes, there's going to be many Christ's that come in my name.
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They're all going to imitate me. And you know what's funny?
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Where the Bible says that we're supposed to be, you know, as holy,
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we're supposed to be holy because God is holy.
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And where Paul says this, he says, be followers of me as I am of Christ.
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You know what the modern versions say? Imitate Christ.
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Not follow Christ, imitate him.
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I think it says it in the NIV. Yeah, there you go. But again,
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until you look at the broader picture here and you looked at,
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you know, deductively, you know, look at the broad, you know,
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the broad reasoning here is that,
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look, the devil wants to be like Jesus Christ.
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And so, anyway, we'll go in more detail about how he imitates Christ because he imitates him.
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Brother Martis actually categorized, I think it's like 21 different things.
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Yeah, it was a long list. Yeah. It's like, wow, just like one for one, all these things.
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That'd be a good segue. But that's the underlying theme. I've been noticing
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that, that it's counterfeit.
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So you guys probably didn't realize Angelology was this interesting.
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We're only getting started. Yeah. I know some of you guys are probably going
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to skip these episodes, and you might go straight to the marriage ones, but hey.
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Yeah, because we're definitely going to do those, right? Yeah.
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Marriage help. That's right.
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But anyways, I think we'll probably close that one off there.
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I think it was appropriate for the season, you know, angels,
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Christmas, you know, all that stuff.
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But yeah, the next one we'll do, probably start off the year right at some point
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and continue on with our angeology.
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See, I'm starting to say that better now. Say that. Angeology.
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I'm an expert. I can say angeology. Angel. Sorry, I just split it into two syllables.
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Well, not two syllables, but angel.
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Ology. yeah I had to practice that so I gotta put a hyphenate to angel ology
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there you go see we can say it alright we'll just wrap it up there Merry Christmas
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last one of the year we'll see everybody on the other side.