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The New Science of Aging Well with Dr. Sofia Din | The Holistic Pharmacy Podcast · Pharmacy Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: You are listening to the global network of podcasters dedicated
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Speaker 1: to the pharmacy profession.
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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Pharmacy podcast Network.
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Speaker 3: Hello, and welcome to the Holistic Pharmacy Podcast. I'm your host,
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Speaker 3: Marina books Of and I'm a functional medicine pharmacist in
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Speaker 3: New York. I'm also a clinical herbalist and an integrative
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Speaker 3: health coach specializing in mindfulness and empowerment. I'm on a
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Speaker 3: mission to transform the way we approach healthcare by bridging
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Speaker 3: the wisdom of traditional medicine with modern practice, and in
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Speaker 3: this podcast, I will be highlighting guests who do just that.
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Speaker 3: I'm constantly inspired by them and I know you will
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Speaker 3: be as well. Call itself Hello, Hello, Welcome back to
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Speaker 3: the Holistic Pharmacy Podcast. I have an amazing guest and
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Speaker 3: conversation in store for you today. I have doctor Sophia
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Speaker 3: Din who is a Board certified family physician with over
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Speaker 3: twenty five years of medical experience and advanced training and geriatrics.
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Speaker 3: She began her career in hospital medicine and long term care,
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Speaker 3: where she served as medical director before shifting her focus
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Speaker 3: from disease management to proactive longevity and anti aging medicine.
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Speaker 3: She's the medical director of Gravani Medical PC in Westchester,
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Speaker 3: New York, where she integrates aesthetics, hormonal health and advanced
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Speaker 3: non surgical technologies to help patients navigate metopause andrew pause,
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Speaker 3: metabolic slow down, and chronic skin failure. So, without further ado,
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Speaker 3: welcome to the show.
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Speaker 1: Thank you. I could have said this better myself.
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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, thank you so much for providing that bio.
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Speaker 3: There's to be more about your work in the show notes,
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Speaker 3: and to start off, I'd love to hear a little
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Speaker 3: bit about your personal journey and how you came to
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Speaker 3: do this work.
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Speaker 1: Well, I just I was very young when I knew
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Speaker 1: that I want to be a doctor.
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Speaker 2: I think the last time I wanted to the first
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Speaker 2: time I remember being wanting to be a doctor was
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Speaker 2: when I was four years old. And so yes, it
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Speaker 2: has been a journey. I have trained in different philosophies.
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Speaker 2: I was so initially in my initial training was in
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Speaker 2: Pakistan where we follow the British system of medicine, so
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Speaker 2: basically because we were originally a British colony, so all
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Speaker 2: our advanced training is a geared for doctors to be
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Speaker 2: able to.
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Speaker 1: Go to London.
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Speaker 2: However, I ended up in the United States and New
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Speaker 2: York instead, and I basically trained in a very different
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Speaker 2: mode of training because American system of medicine is slightly
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Speaker 2: a bit different. It is the hierarchy and the training,
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Speaker 2: the exams, the stuff that doctors are supposed to know
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Speaker 2: is very different, and it was like a kind of
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Speaker 2: a paradigm shift because the medicine, the training of medicine
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Speaker 2: in British training is more like essay type storytelling and
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Speaker 2: United States is like multiple choice questions and basically you're
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Speaker 2: thrown a case and in ninety seconds you have to
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Speaker 2: like decode that problem and basically problem solving at a
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Speaker 2: very efficient rate. So I think both of those trainings
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Speaker 2: provided so it did me a very solid.
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Speaker 1: Foundation to practice.
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Speaker 2: What I really thought was very interesting to me was geriatrics,
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Speaker 2: which was aging. And when I went into aging, I
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Speaker 2: realized that it was just very disappointing and dark, and
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Speaker 2: that was the darkest period of my life where I
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Speaker 2: felt that I could not help anybody. There is no
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Speaker 2: way for me to be able to reverse any problem
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Speaker 2: because once a problem occurred, we are just putting band
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Speaker 2: aids on it, and many times we are able to
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Speaker 2: keep you alive so called However, you're really not living
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Speaker 2: in that period because you're just existing, and we prolong
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Speaker 2: your lifespan without keeping you connected with your health and wellness,
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Speaker 2: and there's no U turn to health and wellness. And
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Speaker 2: if you achieve health and wellness for a few few
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Speaker 2: moments longer, you just you know, go back into your
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Speaker 2: You're on that path, which is like a decline, and
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Speaker 2: it's just it was just hard for me to just
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Speaker 2: see that. And then what ended up also happening simultaneously
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Speaker 2: is that there was like this new field of health
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Speaker 2: span and lifespan and longevity treatments that was simultaneously occurring,
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Speaker 2: which were basically just uh, you know, and I think
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Speaker 2: you were probably aware of it because you have that
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Speaker 2: in one of your names. You know that there were
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Speaker 2: people who were like, how can we promote more health
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Speaker 2: rather than just letting ourselves get sick and then throwing
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Speaker 2: fifty pills at it at every problem. So what ended
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Speaker 2: up happening is that I started training and looking towards
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Speaker 2: that form of that other path.
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Speaker 1: Which was in my opinion, like a middle path.
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Speaker 2: Where where health treatments were integrating with the problems of future,
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Speaker 2: which are like aging problems. So I refer to many
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Speaker 2: of my friends and colleagues refer to that path as
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Speaker 2: anti aging. So we were the people who were like,
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Speaker 2: what can we do to stop this because we realized
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Speaker 2: that aging itself is a problem and it was an
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Speaker 2: inevitability in the eighteenth century and nineteenth century.
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Speaker 1: However, in our period.
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Speaker 2: Of time in the twenty first century, we started finding
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Speaker 2: tools and methodologies that allowed human bodies to remain healthy
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Speaker 2: and strong throughout the period of time that they were alive.
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Speaker 2: And that's basically that was my journey where I had
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Speaker 2: to go into the dark side of medicine and train
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Speaker 2: their to realize that there has to be a different path,
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Speaker 2: and I'm so grateful that I.
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Speaker 1: Was able to find it and go on it.
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Speaker 2: It's hard and complex and you have to study a lot,
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Speaker 2: and actually I feel that I have become now a
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Speaker 2: perpetual student of this training and because it's constantly you know, improving,
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Speaker 2: and our understanding is improving as we're going through you know,
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Speaker 2: different realizations, and the best prop to this training is
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Speaker 2: now in my opinion, AI, which I am extremely grateful for.
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Speaker 2: I am actually a bit disappointed that we are using
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Speaker 2: artificial superintelligence in weapons more before we have started using
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Speaker 2: it in healthcare and longevity.
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Speaker 1: And I have great, you know, hopes.
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Speaker 2: For our future because I think that we can really
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Speaker 2: find solutions faster for everyone, because every human that I
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Speaker 2: have met in my experience has been so uniquely different
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Speaker 2: while being similar to each other. And I think that
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Speaker 2: AI will allow us to, you know, have that concierge
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Speaker 2: experience where we everybody.
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Speaker 1: You know, like you would need to do PhD in
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Speaker 1: every human.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you so much for that context, doctor Tin.
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Speaker 3: It's fascinating that now we have the possibility and the
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Speaker 3: opportunity to thrive at any age, where before it felt
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Speaker 3: like there was definitely a natural decline. And you know,
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Speaker 3: I'm being a pharmacist, you know, seeing so many geriatric
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Speaker 3: population and so many different medications, and you have to
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Speaker 3: realize that's also a burden on their organs of detexification
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Speaker 3: and elimination and lots of drug interactions that we're just
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Speaker 3: not aware of.
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Speaker 4: That we're probably introducing.
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Speaker 3: And then there's Feer's List and things that we don't
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Speaker 3: want to do for elderly patients to alter their consciousness
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Speaker 3: and increase risk of falls and such. So it gets
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Speaker 3: to be very complex, and it's exciting to know that
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Speaker 3: there are strategies that will give us that health and
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Speaker 3: vitality even through the elderly years. And also there's like
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Speaker 3: a philosophical shift too that I want to invite into
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Speaker 3: the conversation, where you know, some people may be chasing
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Speaker 3: youth and beauty and vitality and kind of freeze themselves
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Speaker 3: at a specific age where maybe they've felt their best
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Speaker 3: and like they don't understand the concept of aging gracefully,
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Speaker 3: you know, and they just stick are really holding on
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Speaker 3: to this.
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Speaker 4: Group or this.
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Speaker 3: Age group specifically that seems to get a lot of
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Speaker 3: the attention, especially as women, you know, like being in
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Speaker 3: our peak and in our prime and then sort of
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Speaker 3: when you age, nobody pays attention to you anymore.
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Speaker 4: And there's also a cultural shift around respecting elders or not.
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Speaker 3: And so I'm curious, you know, you, as the author
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Speaker 3: of Do We Really Need Botox, what your perspectives are
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Speaker 3: around all of this. And you're also the post of
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Speaker 3: the podcast Bathroom Diaries, So give us some insights about,
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Speaker 3: you know, what perspective to hold as we have this conversation.
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Speaker 1: Well, that's your question.
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Speaker 2: Is like kind of an invitation for me to write
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Speaker 2: my next book on aging, like you know, aging gracefully
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Speaker 2: or aging helplessly. So I think that this concept of
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Speaker 2: aging gracefully cannot be tied with aging helplessly, because what
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Speaker 2: you need to do in your twenty in twenty first
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Speaker 2: century is to make sure that you're using.
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Speaker 1: The tools that are available to you.
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Speaker 2: These tools and this technology was not available to our ancestors,
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Speaker 2: so it is important for us to have this experience. Again,
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Speaker 2: these are medications for health, you know, just like there
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Speaker 2: are medications for sicknesses, we have now tools and medications
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Speaker 2: for health and wellness also. And you have to make
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Speaker 2: this choice that which path you're going to take, and
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Speaker 2: you know it's okay, there's no judgment in like what
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Speaker 2: paths you choose.
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Speaker 1: You find one, go into.
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Speaker 2: The path of aging, see how you feel over there,
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Speaker 2: and then you can still like there, you have like
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Speaker 2: a decade or two to term make this decision and
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Speaker 2: turn around to health and wellness at any point, So
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Speaker 2: at any point you feel say, oh, my natural stuff
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Speaker 2: is no longer working, I still feel tired, I still
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Speaker 2: have feeled depleted and have no energy. What can I
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Speaker 2: do to bring that back? And now you will find
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Speaker 2: places where you will be able to have that rejuvenation,
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Speaker 2: that regeneration, and it is possible medically. However, it is
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Speaker 2: not you know, it's not something that you can you know, sleep.
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Speaker 1: Your way through or eat your way through, because these
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Speaker 1: are basically.
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Speaker 2: Treatments that you know, kind of bend time for you,
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Speaker 2: and now time.
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Speaker 1: Eventually will become just an illusion.
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Speaker 2: So another concept that I also like my clients to
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Speaker 2: be aware of.
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Speaker 1: Is the concept of pausing.
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Speaker 2: The human body is biologically programmed. We are programmed to
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Speaker 2: once we have done our you know, fertility is over
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Speaker 2: at some point. You know, at thirty nine, we already
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Speaker 2: consider women advanced maternal age because your fertility period window
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Speaker 2: is closing, and at that point your body is programmed
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Speaker 2: to start experiencing perimenopause, and.
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Speaker 1: Which after a decade.
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Speaker 2: Or fifteen years will turn depending on your genetic components.
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Speaker 1: Like what happened to your mother and grandmother, it will.
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Speaker 2: Lead to basically a full pause in your system. So
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Speaker 2: now this biological pause, where for instance, in women it's
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Speaker 2: called menopause, where.
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Speaker 1: You stop having period for like a whole one year.
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Speaker 1: What ends up happening is that that's not just a
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Speaker 1: one system pause.
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Speaker 2: Where your fertility is no longer working. That pause is
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Speaker 2: an all system pause where many women actually, you will
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Speaker 2: encounter a lot of women in my age group who
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Speaker 2: have paused, and we know that it's an all system
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Speaker 2: par it's a brain pause, it's an immune system pause,
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Speaker 2: it's a metabolic pause. You start gaining weight and you
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Speaker 2: can't figure out like how to not gain it because
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Speaker 2: even though you're doing all the things, it just like
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Speaker 2: everything just collects and sits on you. Because your metabolism
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Speaker 2: is like taking a nose dive alongside your hormones, and
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Speaker 2: all of those pauses have an impact on your skin,
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Speaker 2: so your skin starts pausing. And yes, because your brain
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Speaker 2: and your brain, because some of those hormones keep our
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Speaker 2: brains activated, so our lights it feels like somebody is
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Speaker 2: dimming your light until it.
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Speaker 1: Is switched off.
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Speaker 2: So that experience that women go through, women have gone through,
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Speaker 2: Women before us have gone through silently through these problems,
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Speaker 2: and they would go to their doctors asking like, what's
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Speaker 2: going on with me?
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Speaker 1: And they were gaslight.
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Speaker 2: Light at their doctor's offices because nobody could understand that
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Speaker 2: why are they pausing?
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Speaker 1: What is this trouble?
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Speaker 2: Somebody will develop cancer, somebody will develop or a immune disease.
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Speaker 1: Somebody will develop, you know, bone issues.
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Speaker 2: Someone will have all of these issues, and nobody could
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Speaker 2: actually figure out that this is, like, all of these
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Speaker 2: symptoms belong to this one problem that you're pausing and
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Speaker 2: it's biological and you.
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Speaker 1: Need to like lift yourself out of this pause.
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Speaker 2: So one of my understandings that deepening in the understanding
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Speaker 2: is to figure out that these pauses are natural, they're biological.
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Speaker 1: And however, for the first.
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Speaker 2: Time, because we of our awareness and the availability of
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Speaker 2: some of these treatments, you do not have to go
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Speaker 2: down that pause without help.
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Speaker 1: And that help doesn't have to.
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Speaker 2: Be you changing yourself having twenty five different searches, even
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Speaker 2: though that does become like, you know, because women when
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Speaker 2: they start having experiencing skin failure in their mid fifties,
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Speaker 2: they feel like, oh my god, I don't even recognize
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Speaker 2: this personal staring back at me.
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Speaker 1: And that's the concept of my.
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Speaker 2: Bathroom diaries, where you meet you without a filter and
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Speaker 2: without makeup, and do you find yourself in that position
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Speaker 2: of vulnerability and how to align with yourself, how to
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Speaker 2: love yourself even when you are not feeling the peaks
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Speaker 2: that you had experienced before. And I think that at
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Speaker 2: this point you also do not have to accept the
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Speaker 2: aging of your system without also knowing that there is
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Speaker 2: help out there and you are able to go and
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Speaker 2: seek that help.
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Speaker 1: We thankfully have that all.
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Speaker 2: Those elements at our access, because remember, your body is
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Speaker 2: basically just a vessel that's holding your consciousness through time, gravity,
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Speaker 2: and hormonal imbalance. And can we assist you in keeping
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Speaker 2: it healthy as you go through time, Yes, one.
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Speaker 1: Hundred percent we can.
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Speaker 2: This is my that's at least my experience in the
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Speaker 2: United States. However, you have to find people who are
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Speaker 2: trained in this in wherever you are in You know,
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Speaker 2: I don't know where your most of your audience come from,
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Speaker 2: but I know that pretty much people like me exist
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Speaker 2: now in every country and pretty much the entire planet. However,
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Speaker 2: because this is an out of pocket additional expense, health
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Speaker 2: is an expense.
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Speaker 1: It's an out of pocket expense.
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Speaker 2: However, in the United States, if you have medical insurance,
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Speaker 2: your insurance. Health insurance is like your car insurance, so
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Speaker 2: basically it only activates if you develop a disease or
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Speaker 2: a disorder. So if you have a disease or a disorder.
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Speaker 2: You can go to your insurance and they will cover it.
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Speaker 1: However, health is going to be you know, it's like
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Speaker 1: an oil change. You know, your car will.
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Speaker 2: Be like, go and get your oil change at your
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Speaker 2: own expense.
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Speaker 1: And your you know, denting, painting, whatever.
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Speaker 2: Else, cleaning is your own problem. So that being said,
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Speaker 2: menopause in the United States is not considered a disease
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Speaker 2: but a natural process. However, this phase actually leads to
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Speaker 2: a lot of different problems for women. And one more
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Speaker 2: thing that I would like to also insert over here.
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Speaker 2: Even though I focus on women health primarily because that's
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Speaker 2: my thing, but I also have studied men men's health,
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Speaker 2: and men go through a similar experience in time. Their
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Speaker 2: bodies are pre programmed to encounter andropause, and andropose is
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Speaker 2: like basically where their hormones tank, their systems starts feel flailing.
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Speaker 2: Men when they develop like a mid belly, we think
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Speaker 2: that they're very successful.
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Speaker 1: Because around that time they were.
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Speaker 2: An andropossal Men with rectile dysfunction and a little mid
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Speaker 2: section fat is considered a well to do, wealthy person
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Speaker 2: because by that time, you know, that's why women find
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Speaker 2: that you know, at some points.
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Speaker 1: Uh, you know, we you know, like this man must
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Speaker 1: be doing well. However, uh, andropause.
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Speaker 2: You know, women, it's what a stark difference that women
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Speaker 2: by the time their menopausal, we we become uh kind
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Speaker 2: of we disappear and we become invisible. And men, when
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Speaker 2: they become andropozzle, they become more visible because you know,
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Speaker 2: it's it uh uh kind of shows that they have
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Speaker 2: some money. But men's andropause is quite tricky also, and
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Speaker 2: that is because women at least have a symptom when
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Speaker 2: we have a pause, so we know that we are
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Speaker 2: not going to have any more periods. But men, on
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Speaker 2: the other hand, they have no symptoms. You know, they
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Speaker 2: don't know at what point now to start? Why am
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Speaker 2: I feeling tired? Why am I chronically low energy? Why
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Speaker 2: is my thyroid acting up? Why my cholesterol is through
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Speaker 2: the roof, Why I'm gaining ten pounds and whatnot.
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Speaker 1: So men have their own problems also.
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Speaker 2: And you know, I do they believe that men also,
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Speaker 2: just like women, seek somebody like when we're not feeling better,
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Speaker 2: because we're vocal about it, we're more attached to our bodies. However,
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Speaker 2: men don't even try to seek that because they're supposed
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Speaker 2: to be march and marter and they should never complain
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Speaker 2: about anything, so they have like a different set of problems.
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Speaker 1: And I don't know if that is you know, in
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Speaker 1: the purview of.
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Speaker 2: Your podcast, but I think that one of my things
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Speaker 2: is also to bring people to this awareness of understanding
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Speaker 2: your pause and figuring out which layer of pause you're
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Speaker 2: in and how to lift yourself out of it again
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Speaker 2: and again, because your body will arrest and you will
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Speaker 2: have like that issue, and sometimes that can happen in
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Speaker 2: your thirties. Girls that I've met your age group who
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Speaker 2: go through childbirth, for instance, So right after childbirth you
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Speaker 2: naturally go into a pause state sometimes, you know, if
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Speaker 2: you're hell, if you have a lot of support and
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Speaker 2: you take care of yourself, there is a possibility that
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Speaker 2: you don't have that arrest in your system.
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Speaker 1: But girls, however, in your thirties, you.
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Speaker 2: Can lift yourself out with natural things like exercise, sleeping, whatever,
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Speaker 2: you know, and some support. But in your forties and
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Speaker 2: fifties that requires a little more extra assistance.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, this was a long answer.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that was very enlightening. Thank you.
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Speaker 3: So, in your experience, what is the reason or you know,
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Speaker 3: most of the reasons that you are aware of that
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Speaker 3: people seek out practitioners like yourself, like, what are the
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Speaker 3: cultural and psychological reasons why longevity and beauty are important
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Speaker 3: to people?
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Speaker 2: So even though I call myself a whole body rejuvenator
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Speaker 2: and I believe in the anteaging of body as a
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Speaker 2: whole because you're a full system. But one of my
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Speaker 2: most favorite organs is skin. Now, human skin is not
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Speaker 2: just the largest organ of your body. Human skin is
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Speaker 2: also certain parts of your skin, for instance, your face.
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Speaker 2: And you know there are prime prime areas. I call
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Speaker 2: it prime real estate because that's how you recognize you
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Speaker 2: and how others recog you as you. However, one very
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Speaker 2: fascinating fact about human skin is that it is represented
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Speaker 2: in your brain. And your brain cells and your skin
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Speaker 2: cells arise from the same matrix of cells when you
23:18
Speaker 2: were very little embryonic tissue ball of consciousness, when you
23:23
Speaker 2: were very very tiny. At that point, the outermost layer
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Speaker 2: of the embryonic tissue, which is called the ectoderm, half
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Speaker 2: of it turns into your brain cells and the other
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Speaker 2: half turns into your skin cells.
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Speaker 1: And for that matter, your skin.
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Speaker 2: Cells and brain cells, in my perception is.
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Speaker 1: Are quantum entangled at birth.
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Speaker 2: And as your skin goes through time, not only you
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Speaker 2: recognize yourself, your brain learns to look at you and
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Speaker 2: see where you are in time.
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Speaker 1: And your hair cell your cells of your hair.
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Speaker 2: Your hair is nothing but an extension of your skin.
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Speaker 2: And so what I like to do and what I
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Speaker 2: do best is basically supply treatments and solve issues that
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Speaker 2: can afflict.
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Speaker 1: Your skin through time.
24:22
Speaker 2: Now, anti aging is a different you know, it is
24:28
Speaker 2: very sometimes closely.
24:30
Speaker 1: Tied to beauty, but you know, beauty is.
24:36
Speaker 2: A totally different topic. I always like to, you know,
24:42
Speaker 2: just make everybody conscious about the fact that beauty is
24:45
Speaker 2: a genetic gift. It is something that you know, nobody,
24:51
Speaker 2: like in an anti aging realm of work can give
24:55
Speaker 2: it to you. The only person who can give you
24:57
Speaker 2: beauty is your mother and that is it. These we
25:01
Speaker 2: can provide you with preservatives to keep you connected with
25:07
Speaker 2: your versions that you find beautiful through time.
25:11
Speaker 1: However, you know that.
25:12
Speaker 2: Is an extra thing. And again, anybody who tries to,
25:17
Speaker 2: you know, tell you that they can give you beauty,
25:20
Speaker 2: they're probably guiding you wrong. And you know, so that's
25:25
Speaker 2: my that's my take on antiaging. And you know, removing
25:29
Speaker 2: the asthetic However, beauty is very intimately related to your health.
25:35
Speaker 2: I say that people who chase beauty they have to
25:37
Speaker 2: realize that beauty is a very fickle mistress it. At
25:41
Speaker 2: the moment your health is ruined, your beauty exits your
25:45
Speaker 2: system faster, faster.
25:47
Speaker 1: Than anything else you would ever know.
25:51
Speaker 2: And for that reason, if you have worked on the
25:53
Speaker 2: dark side of medicine and you've been in the hospital
25:57
Speaker 2: sections and ers, try and find somebody who's beautiful there,
26:01
Speaker 2: because there's nobody beautiful there. If somebody you find in
26:04
Speaker 2: the hospital that's looking beautiful, you have to go and
26:07
Speaker 2: wake yourself up.
26:08
Speaker 1: You maybe you're watching a movie or something.
26:10
Speaker 2: So the thing is that beauty is like genetic trait. However,
26:16
Speaker 2: I feel that whatever you are, whoever you are, you
26:21
Speaker 2: need to always love, to love, to love yourself, learn
26:24
Speaker 2: to love yourself and accept yourself. And once you love
26:30
Speaker 2: yourself and accept yourself as a whole, as a being,
26:33
Speaker 2: as a purpose, as a code that got translated into
26:37
Speaker 2: physicality at that point, you can.
26:40
Speaker 1: Also if you're in the twenty first century.
26:43
Speaker 2: In a country which is not which has some of
26:47
Speaker 2: these resources, you can keep yourself together through time a
26:51
Speaker 2: little while longer we have not been able to turn
26:54
Speaker 2: off the aging you know, as a Swiss as of yet. However,
27:02
Speaker 2: we have halted it, and through time you can halt
27:06
Speaker 2: the disintegration of your system. Because remember, your consciousness grows
27:10
Speaker 2: through time and it blossoms to its absolute best around
27:16
Speaker 2: seventy or eighty, So you know, double your lifespan right now,
27:21
Speaker 2: and know that by the time you're hitting seventy five eighty,
27:25
Speaker 2: your consciousness is going to be way amazing than what
27:29
Speaker 2: it is right now. And however, by that time that
27:33
Speaker 2: you reach your consciousness is there and it has you know,
27:36
Speaker 2: blossomed into that thing that you can get all the
27:38
Speaker 2: messages from the universe or multiverse, whatever whatever your code represents.
27:45
Speaker 2: At that time, your system is falling apart because we
27:49
Speaker 2: cannot we have not aligned your body to stay constant
27:53
Speaker 2: through time. However, that is the one that we're changing,
27:56
Speaker 2: and we're hoping that that that decade, the last ten
28:02
Speaker 2: to fifteen years of your life are not spent running
28:06
Speaker 2: from one doctor's office to the next, or languishing in
28:10
Speaker 2: some assisted care setting where nobody even you know you
28:14
Speaker 2: become irrelevant. And we're hoping that the last fifteen years
28:21
Speaker 2: or twenty years of your existence, if you find you
28:26
Speaker 2: have a new you know, you can use energy and
28:30
Speaker 2: you still have energy, and you still have life, and
28:33
Speaker 2: you still can proactively you know, do whatever you want
28:39
Speaker 2: at that point. So that's I guess the you know,
28:44
Speaker 2: the essence of this longevity, pursuit of longevity is to
28:50
Speaker 2: be able to still do things and not become an
28:53
Speaker 2: invalid at the end of life.
28:55
Speaker 1: But right now, like as we are telling people, like
28:58
Speaker 1: in New York, they have I.
29:00
Speaker 2: Think they're trying to pass that bill which will allow
29:04
Speaker 2: people to have like assisted termination of life if you
29:09
Speaker 2: feel that you have like you know, everything is done
29:12
Speaker 2: and you can't really stay alive longer and you're done. However,
29:18
Speaker 2: we're hoping that you will never get to that stage,
29:22
Speaker 2: you know, where you're at that level.
29:24
Speaker 1: However, if you do.
29:25
Speaker 2: Get to that stage, I mean, of course, I mean
29:27
Speaker 2: exit should be available. However, I don't think that people
29:33
Speaker 2: would want to exit if they still have energy to
29:36
Speaker 2: have hope, if they still have inspiration and motivation, and
29:39
Speaker 2: if they're their consciousness is still alive and working and
29:46
Speaker 2: doing what it is supposed to because you know, I mean,
29:49
Speaker 2: we can't tell people what is your purpose in life,
29:52
Speaker 2: because your purpose is in life during your throughout life change.
29:56
Speaker 2: So every six seven years you'll find that your purpose
30:00
Speaker 2: has completely altered the purpose. The purpose in the last
30:03
Speaker 2: decade was something else, to this decade is something else.
30:06
Speaker 1: The next decade will be something else.
30:08
Speaker 2: However, when you go meet your purpose, we hope that
30:12
Speaker 2: you have the energy to carry it out.
30:15
Speaker 1: If you have the you have the.
30:17
Speaker 2: You know, inspiration to you know, even know what it is,
30:21
Speaker 2: because you know, there's sometimes I used to meet people
30:24
Speaker 2: in nursing homes and the most depressed people I've met.
30:29
Speaker 1: Were in the nursing facilities.
30:30
Speaker 2: Where they were, like, you know, they had nothing but
30:34
Speaker 2: regret about different things and I and the ones.
30:40
Speaker 1: Who did not could not express regret were the ones.
30:45
Speaker 2: Who were blithely demented, you know, so they were unaware
30:48
Speaker 2: of what's what was going on.
30:52
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's fascinating. Thank you for sharing.
30:55
Speaker 3: And I think the purpose is definitely relevant here in
30:59
Speaker 3: this conversation. And it also depends on one's level and
31:03
Speaker 3: state of consciousness.
31:04
Speaker 4: Right, So I hear you on wanting to preserve that
31:08
Speaker 4: and expand that and develop that. And one of the.
31:12
Speaker 3: Ways is to make sure that you are a healthy
31:15
Speaker 3: mind and body and spirit in order to meet yourself there.
31:20
Speaker 3: So what happens when somebody comes into your office for consultation,
31:26
Speaker 3: like what journey do you take them through?
31:28
Speaker 4: From a functional less.
31:31
Speaker 1: Well?
31:32
Speaker 2: I am kind of a menopause and a beauty doctor.
31:36
Speaker 1: So most people seek me.
31:39
Speaker 2: My work because I help rejuvenate their skin. So and
31:46
Speaker 2: usually if skin is failing, we have to figure out
31:49
Speaker 2: what level of pause you're in and then we basically,
31:53
Speaker 2: you know, check some blood work, figure out what can
31:57
Speaker 2: be done to help you get back into the flow
32:01
Speaker 2: of things so you're not like pausing, but you're in
32:04
Speaker 2: the flow.
32:05
Speaker 1: And unpause is my thing. So basically we figure out
32:09
Speaker 1: if you're.
32:09
Speaker 2: In that pause. And again, beauty in a pause. So
32:13
Speaker 2: beauty is hard to maintain during a pause. It's hard,
32:16
Speaker 2: it's hard work, and however it's worth it. If you
32:21
Speaker 2: have a sense of beauty and if you had experienced
32:25
Speaker 2: a version of self which was beautiful, then I say,
32:29
Speaker 2: you know, you would always miss it. You would always
32:32
Speaker 2: miss that person. You will always because remember every subsequent.
32:36
Speaker 1: Day will take you.
32:37
Speaker 2: Farther away from that you know, and the farther away
32:41
Speaker 2: you go, the harder it will be.
32:42
Speaker 1: To reconnect to it.
32:44
Speaker 2: So proactively preserving your beauty is always a good answer,
32:49
Speaker 2: and I always welcome people to you know, preserving beauty
32:54
Speaker 2: is different than pursuing it and trying to find it
33:00
Speaker 2: in places where it doesn't exist.
33:02
Speaker 1: That you know is and I one had of present.
33:06
Speaker 2: I am certain that beauty does not exist in your
33:09
Speaker 2: plastic surgeon's office. It exists inside you, and you have
33:13
Speaker 2: to stay attached to it. And yes, I mean does it?
33:17
Speaker 2: Can it happen that if you've like lost, and you
33:21
Speaker 2: you let time go through you and gravity go through you,
33:25
Speaker 2: and hormonal imbalance go through you, and now you've reached
33:28
Speaker 2: a time where the turnaround.
33:30
Speaker 1: Will require a plastic surgeon's visit. Yeah, okay, go ahead
33:36
Speaker 1: to it, you know, I mean, if that makes you
33:39
Speaker 1: feel better. However, I personally.
33:42
Speaker 2: Am am personally not in favor of surgery as the
33:49
Speaker 2: first step towards finding your beauty or preserving it, because
33:53
Speaker 2: I feel that that's not the point the point of However,
33:58
Speaker 2: I feel that chronics can failure is best managed by
34:02
Speaker 2: preventing preventative small treatments that can help you help.
34:07
Speaker 1: Your skin not fail. And if you can do that easily,
34:10
Speaker 1: you don't.
34:10
Speaker 2: Have to cut it because remember, cutting your skin, it's
34:14
Speaker 2: not going to remove the brain cells that still exist
34:17
Speaker 2: inside your brain. And once you chuck your skin out,
34:21
Speaker 2: your brain is going to miss its quantum entangled soul
34:25
Speaker 2: mate that represented it so many times after surgery.
34:29
Speaker 1: I see sometimes very fascinatingly.
34:32
Speaker 2: Beautiful women who when they look at themselves, they're like, no,
34:37
Speaker 2: I had surgery, and they cannot not fool It's very
34:40
Speaker 2: easy to fool other people, but it's the more it's
34:43
Speaker 2: hardest to fool yourself because the hardest person to fool
34:46
Speaker 2: will be your own self because you know your experience
34:49
Speaker 2: and you know that you.
34:50
Speaker 1: Got it cut, you did this, and you don't look
34:52
Speaker 1: like it.
34:53
Speaker 2: So even if you're looking nice to others, but if
34:55
Speaker 2: it's not looking nice to your own brain, you won't
34:58
Speaker 2: feel it. So I feel that when you chuck your skin,
35:02
Speaker 2: your brain cells miss it and you won't be able
35:05
Speaker 2: to fool yourself.
35:09
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a really good point. So I'm wondering from
35:13
Speaker 4: a sustainability.
35:14
Speaker 3: Perspective, how early should somebody start thinking about this, What
35:20
Speaker 3: kind of treatments are available, what's.
35:22
Speaker 4: This safety profile?
35:24
Speaker 3: And also from like that, sustainability and longevity standpoint, how
35:30
Speaker 3: often would they have to upkeep it to maintain that
35:34
Speaker 3: look or that preservation of their beauty or skin that
35:37
Speaker 3: we were talking about.
35:40
Speaker 2: So, your skin is not just the larger, largest organ
35:44
Speaker 2: of your body. It holds every other organ inside it.
35:48
Speaker 2: And guess what your skin represents the inside of your health.
35:55
Speaker 2: So if you're you know, so, beauty is again intimately
35:59
Speaker 2: tied with health.
36:01
Speaker 1: It's you. If you're not healthy, you're not going to
36:03
Speaker 1: beautiful for long.
36:05
Speaker 2: So I always say that some of the things that
36:08
Speaker 2: you have to do on your own is to live
36:11
Speaker 2: a clean life. Stay away from toxic bullshit, whether it
36:15
Speaker 2: is for a company of somebody toxic or toxic, or
36:20
Speaker 2: eating something toxic.
36:21
Speaker 1: Whatever hurts your system, don't consume it.
36:25
Speaker 2: Sleep well, move your body, eat real food, be with
36:31
Speaker 2: real people, and and you know, pursue under an under
36:36
Speaker 2: a deeper understanding of self so that you can find
36:41
Speaker 2: things that inspire you and UH learn always be a
36:46
Speaker 2: perpetual student of life and learn new things daily. However, UH,
36:53
Speaker 2: at some point you will when you find that all
36:56
Speaker 2: of those naturally things are not produced seeing the.
37:00
Speaker 1: Results they used to.
37:01
Speaker 2: At that point, you may want to see certain medical
37:06
Speaker 2: grade treatments for which you have to go and find
37:10
Speaker 2: a doctor. And I think that that is it's a
37:13
Speaker 2: very sustainable thing. I think it is in it's going
37:17
Speaker 2: to be very beneficial for people because women spend so
37:21
Speaker 2: much money on bullshit skincare stuff, bullshit products that they
37:27
Speaker 2: apply just to keep the skin tissue.
37:31
Speaker 1: Alive or healthy.
37:32
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, these tiny little bit of shots can actually totally turn.
37:39
Speaker 1: Back cellular at a cellular.
37:41
Speaker 2: Level time for you and save you from spending tons
37:45
Speaker 2: of money. And basically, you know, all of those skincare
37:50
Speaker 2: many of the skincare products are just hoaxes. They're gonna
37:53
Speaker 2: they don't do shit to people, especially if you're in
37:56
Speaker 2: a menopausal state.
37:58
Speaker 1: So in a pause, when women when are in their.
38:01
Speaker 2: Late forties or late fifties, like ten years, twenty years
38:04
Speaker 2: from now, you may want to go back to this
38:07
Speaker 2: talk and here with again.
38:08
Speaker 1: But the thing is that at that point you.
38:10
Speaker 2: May reach out for medical grade skin care to help you, and.
38:16
Speaker 1: You know it will be it will be.
38:18
Speaker 2: I think that stopping your skin from aging past forty
38:23
Speaker 2: is like worthy of, you know, a visit to your
38:27
Speaker 2: doctor's office. The other thing is that after a pause,
38:31
Speaker 2: sometimes your gut is also pausing and a lot of
38:34
Speaker 2: women will feel that no matter what they consume, no
38:37
Speaker 2: matter how good their food and whatever intake is, it's
38:41
Speaker 2: just not producing the results that they it choose to.
38:44
Speaker 1: And sometimes it's.
38:45
Speaker 2: Not possible for like for us, for Mother Earth to
38:51
Speaker 2: feed seven billion of us the amount of nutrients that
38:55
Speaker 2: we will need to have like a nourishing long life,
39:01
Speaker 2: it might make sense to produce, you know, elements that
39:04
Speaker 2: we can just insert people into your body for your
39:10
Speaker 2: skin to consume and keep itself healthy instead of just
39:14
Speaker 2: like basically.
39:15
Speaker 1: Bypassing the dout biome. Uh.
39:19
Speaker 2: And that is one of the future that we are seeing.
39:24
Speaker 2: The trends of future are you know, getting infusions for
39:28
Speaker 2: your skin and hair, and people do infusions for uh
39:33
Speaker 2: intravenous infusion of elements for sports already. Uh, they were
39:40
Speaker 2: made for recovery and for you know, regenerating yourself. People
39:44
Speaker 2: do it for sports, but these infusions are also super
39:48
Speaker 2: important for longevity. And there we do have a lot
39:54
Speaker 2: of evidence about how important these intravenous in fusions are
40:00
Speaker 2: because we when whenever anybody is deathly ill and they
40:05
Speaker 2: go to the hospital and they go to the emergency room.
40:08
Speaker 2: The first thing they would we have to do to
40:11
Speaker 2: recover you and pull you out of your whatever illness
40:14
Speaker 2: is to set a set an infusion of an alkaline
40:18
Speaker 2: fluid which changes the internal chemistry of your body from
40:23
Speaker 2: an esstic environment to a alkaline environment, which is like
40:27
Speaker 2: much better for internal body. And what we say to
40:31
Speaker 2: people is that why should we wait until somebody is
40:34
Speaker 2: deathly ill to do an intravenous treatment like this? For people,
40:39
Speaker 2: this should be done at a primary chair level, at
40:42
Speaker 2: a you know, at a as a as a longevity measure.
40:47
Speaker 2: But you know that battle still needs to be fought,
40:51
Speaker 2: because we're nowhere near.
40:54
Speaker 1: Near that right now.
40:55
Speaker 2: I don't think any insurance company is going to cover
40:57
Speaker 2: it because it's considered like an oil change.
41:00
Speaker 1: So you will see that you.
41:01
Speaker 2: Know in your car, even if you buy a new car,
41:04
Speaker 2: the insurance, the auto insurance may cover for one or
41:07
Speaker 2: two years oil change, but they're not going to cover
41:10
Speaker 2: it for the rest of the life of the car
41:12
Speaker 2: because they think that you know your car, you should
41:15
Speaker 2: change your car after five years. However, human body is
41:19
Speaker 2: a different kind of vessel and you can never leave it,
41:23
Speaker 2: you can never dump it, so keeping it in good
41:26
Speaker 2: shape is very important and keeping its chemistry suitable to
41:32
Speaker 2: life and longevity is in your interest. However, I don't know.
41:38
Speaker 2: I don't think that we are at that point where
41:42
Speaker 2: it became where it is going to be like something
41:44
Speaker 2: that your insurance will will recommend or cover.
41:49
Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you.
41:51
Speaker 1: Yeah.
41:51
Speaker 3: Can you speak on any like negative side effects or
41:55
Speaker 3: contraindications anybody who is not eligible for these kind of
41:59
Speaker 3: price and injections.
42:03
Speaker 2: So yes, contraentications is a very important part of any
42:08
Speaker 2: procedure because remember these are all treatments, these are medical grade.
42:12
Speaker 2: Everything has a side effect, a potential side effect, and
42:16
Speaker 2: for that reason, you always have to make sure that
42:18
Speaker 2: you go to somebody that is experienced. It's like driving
42:22
Speaker 2: a car, like, what are the contraindications and side effects
42:26
Speaker 2: of driving a car? You can kill someone, you yourself
42:31
Speaker 2: can get killed if you don't know the drivers driving capabilities,
42:36
Speaker 2: you are endangering yourself needlessly.
42:38
Speaker 1: People do it all the time.
42:40
Speaker 2: And if you don't know how to drive, I mean,
42:43
Speaker 2: are you following rules and regulations?
42:45
Speaker 1: So for sure.
42:48
Speaker 2: With the and I give like another example, like a scalpel,
42:52
Speaker 2: you know, in the hands of a surgeon can save
42:55
Speaker 2: your life and that same scalpel in the hands of
42:58
Speaker 2: like a two year old can injure someone, including that
43:03
Speaker 2: that child itself. So I say that these are tools
43:08
Speaker 2: that are can be exceptionally important when used.
43:14
Speaker 1: By the right people. Train people.
43:16
Speaker 2: So you have to find your person, you have to
43:18
Speaker 2: find your source, and once you find that source and
43:22
Speaker 2: you know that they're qualified, then then it is good
43:27
Speaker 2: to give it a shot. And you know, that's really
43:31
Speaker 2: all that I would say. I mean, the benefits outweigh
43:34
Speaker 2: the risks. That's what you have to figure out. However,
43:38
Speaker 2: I feel that surgery, I mean, if you picked surgery
43:43
Speaker 2: as the first step towards longevity, I'm not because.
43:50
Speaker 1: You know, the potential side effects are just so humongous.
43:57
Speaker 1: Even though we're in the twenty first century we have a.
44:01
Speaker 2: Very good capacity to bring you back out of surgery
44:04
Speaker 2: and you know, repair and bring that repair about, we
44:08
Speaker 2: still haven't reached that pinnacle of excellence that we can
44:13
Speaker 2: guarantee you one hundred percent success.
44:15
Speaker 1: So always go for the minimally invasive, the least you
44:23
Speaker 1: know problematic procedures, and always use.
44:28
Speaker 2: It in the least amount of quantities. I believe in
44:33
Speaker 2: microdosing some of these treatments, and you know, and I
44:39
Speaker 2: know you mentioned my book Do We Really Need Botox?
44:42
Speaker 2: I invite all your viewers to go find it on
44:47
Speaker 2: Amazon and you know.
44:50
Speaker 1: Purchase it.
44:52
Speaker 2: When I wrote it, I wrote it in twenty nineteen,
44:56
Speaker 2: and I basically wrote it to support a nonprofit foundation
45:06
Speaker 2: which I was trying to create for single mothers, because
45:12
Speaker 2: I felt that a lot of single mothers I would
45:15
Speaker 2: meet were women who were recovering from long careers in
45:22
Speaker 2: marriages which were coming to an end, and as they
45:26
Speaker 2: were getting ready to go into further into life, they
45:31
Speaker 2: used to feel resentful of the fact that they've wasted
45:33
Speaker 2: so much time in different relationships and so much energy.
45:37
Speaker 2: And I thought that because these treatments are so expensive
45:42
Speaker 2: and out of pocket, many of them could not afford it.
45:45
Speaker 2: So I actually set up a nonprofit foundation just to
45:49
Speaker 2: help them understand like what these treatments are and to
45:54
Speaker 2: go and seek it. So when you buy this book
45:58
Speaker 2: to find the answer to some of these treatments, you
46:01
Speaker 2: are supporting a single model somewhere.
46:06
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you so much for the conversation so far.
46:11
Speaker 4: And it sounds like the.
46:13
Speaker 3: Individual pursuit of health and longevity and even beauty is
46:17
Speaker 3: definitely attainable, and it can be done in a minimally
46:21
Speaker 3: invasive way, which is amazing. And at the same token,
46:26
Speaker 3: I'd love to play Devil's advocate for a minute and
46:29
Speaker 3: talk about the larger ecological perspective and how these treatment
46:35
Speaker 3: models that we're mentioning with IV therapy and injection and
46:40
Speaker 3: surgery and all the other options available to us, and
46:42
Speaker 3: even that you mentioned in the beginning AI now being
46:46
Speaker 3: applicable in healthcare, Like, what are the maybe negative impacts
46:51
Speaker 3: of that, or how can we make them more positive?
46:55
Speaker 3: Because we know that they're using a lot of resources,
46:58
Speaker 3: including water and including all of the plastic and all
47:03
Speaker 3: the waste that goes on to in these kind of
47:05
Speaker 3: treatment facilities, how do we kind of create a better,
47:11
Speaker 3: more ecological way that's environmentally friendly for these things?
47:20
Speaker 2: True, so yes, everything has a component of you know,
47:25
Speaker 2: as long as human life. You know, human life will
47:29
Speaker 2: create waste, and we are also increasing our lifesprean our
47:34
Speaker 2: ancestors used to die at forty we were.
47:37
Speaker 1: Done, you know, But now when you reach forty, you're
47:40
Speaker 1: not done.
47:41
Speaker 2: You're nowhere clear close to being done. And I know
47:45
Speaker 2: that there is a subset of those ecological people, mindside
47:51
Speaker 2: people who sometimes wonder if it is worth it that
47:56
Speaker 2: humans live this long? Why not just exit like your
48:01
Speaker 2: God promised you fifty years. Exit at fifty. But we
48:06
Speaker 2: are not done. We want Life is beautiful, Life is
48:10
Speaker 2: worthy once you get into it. And now we have
48:14
Speaker 2: found all these mechanisms. So now you get in a car,
48:16
Speaker 2: you don't have to go on a horse or on
48:18
Speaker 2: a carriage somewhere. You don't have to walk a mile
48:22
Speaker 2: to go buy eggs for your family. You don't have
48:26
Speaker 2: to You know, a lot of these things that took
48:31
Speaker 2: our energy, you know, are so modern lifestyle has extended
48:35
Speaker 2: our lifespan. So I am a believer in the modern life.
48:40
Speaker 3: And.
48:42
Speaker 2: It's all it's good things, and yet it does have
48:45
Speaker 2: certain issues. But I think that using AI so AI
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Speaker 2: is just a tool, another tool that we have created.
48:52
Speaker 1: How we use that tool is going to matter.
48:56
Speaker 2: So how are we using this tool right now by
49:00
Speaker 2: killing each other? We do not need to use this
49:02
Speaker 2: tool for killing each other. We need to use this
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Speaker 2: tool to help us in living longer, healthier and more
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Speaker 2: sustainable lives.
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Speaker 1: So can AI help us over there?
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Speaker 2: I think it will help us produce less weight also
49:22
Speaker 2: and maybe even solve some of the problems that production
49:26
Speaker 2: of this.
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Speaker 1: Waste was doing.
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Speaker 2: So I think that again it is you know, it
49:33
Speaker 2: is how we use different technology and tools.
49:36
Speaker 1: So is ecology going to be a problem.
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Speaker 2: Yes, it may be another obstacle that human consciousness has
49:44
Speaker 2: to overcome. But we should look at it as a
49:49
Speaker 2: tool and we should, you know, find ways how to
49:53
Speaker 2: use it to the best of you know, for the
49:56
Speaker 2: best of humanity rather than for you know, worst of humanity.
50:01
Speaker 2: And I think that you know, these some of these
50:05
Speaker 2: treatments that I am recommending are not that wasteful.
50:10
Speaker 1: Actually, yes, we.
50:12
Speaker 2: Do need more people who are trained who can guide
50:16
Speaker 2: people correctly.
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Speaker 1: However, I don't think actually what costs.
50:21
Speaker 2: More money to us is management of chronic diseases where
50:26
Speaker 2: people are rendered completely incapacitated in the last ten to
50:32
Speaker 2: fifteen years of their lives, and we're using all kinds
50:36
Speaker 2: of medications, productions of those medications, surgeries and whatever.
50:41
Speaker 1: Like.
50:41
Speaker 2: If you look at the medicare bills and stuff, it's
50:45
Speaker 2: like the whole life of a person is they have
50:49
Speaker 2: not used these mantary resources than maybe like the last
50:52
Speaker 2: one year of their life, and where they've had like
50:57
Speaker 2: several surgeries and this and that.
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Speaker 1: How to make it like how to make this biological being.
51:06
Speaker 2: Use, produce less you know, crap and you know, use
51:12
Speaker 2: and be more efficient. I think it is a process
51:16
Speaker 2: we are trying to do better, but I think it
51:20
Speaker 2: is a journey. There are there are no one size
51:24
Speaker 2: fits all solutions, but I think those solutions are there,
51:30
Speaker 2: and you know, we just have to get to them,
51:33
Speaker 2: and we just have to bring the right people and
51:36
Speaker 2: the right teams to do the right thing for us.
51:41
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's definitely a complicated question, and it's always like
51:45
Speaker 3: the good of one versus the good of many, and
51:47
Speaker 3: we have to balance that.
51:51
Speaker 4: And yeah, there is no perfect answer.
51:53
Speaker 3: But I always like to bring the climate and the
51:56
Speaker 3: climate changing and the awareness of that into the conversations
52:00
Speaker 3: even when we're talking about individual health. So I appreciate
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Speaker 3: your answers, and if you have just one more minute left,
52:05
Speaker 3: I'd love to do a rapid fire around with you.
52:08
Speaker 1: Absolutely I am ready.
52:10
Speaker 3: All right, So what's the number one thing somebody can
52:13
Speaker 3: do to improve their quality of life?
52:14
Speaker 4: Right now?
52:16
Speaker 2: The number one thing that you can do is to
52:21
Speaker 2: improve your sleep.
52:23
Speaker 1: Pat If you can help yourself.
52:27
Speaker 2: Sleep better, you'll be able to recharge and repair and
52:32
Speaker 2: regenerate not just your brain but your entire body, which
52:36
Speaker 2: repaares itself when you're sleeping. So if you can have
52:39
Speaker 2: sleep hygiene you are in, you can put yourself back
52:44
Speaker 2: in the flow.
52:46
Speaker 4: All right, beautiful.
52:48
Speaker 3: Number two is what's your favorite thing to eat or
52:53
Speaker 3: maybe like a favorite dish you like to prepare.
52:59
Speaker 2: One of my favorite dishes that I prepare is like
53:03
Speaker 2: a bag of beauty. It's an intravenous bag of nutrients
53:07
Speaker 2: that I prepare myself for many of my favorite people
53:12
Speaker 2: that I work for.
53:14
Speaker 1: And it has like.
53:15
Speaker 2: A lot of antioxidants, like high dose vitamin C, glue decione, It.
53:20
Speaker 1: Has like all the B vitamins you can think of.
53:22
Speaker 2: It has some amino acids, it has like a little
53:25
Speaker 2: liver clans, It has some magnesium. So when I do
53:28
Speaker 2: that there and I pride myself that that dish that
53:32
Speaker 2: I prepare is preservative free and it's like sourced in,
53:40
Speaker 2: you know, from some of the best pharmacies that I
53:45
Speaker 2: you know that I've come to know over my decades
53:48
Speaker 2: of experience here in New York. And what I do
53:53
Speaker 2: is that I put it together and I give it
53:55
Speaker 2: to myself and others, and that's that one thing that
54:00
Speaker 2: makes me feel so energized throughout my pause and I
54:05
Speaker 2: think that it has become like an essential component to
54:09
Speaker 2: my health and wellness.
54:11
Speaker 1: And I.
54:13
Speaker 2: Feel that it also does not take up that many
54:18
Speaker 2: resources because I know, as a human being, if I
54:22
Speaker 2: ate twenty four to seven for three sixty five days,
54:26
Speaker 2: I would not be able to get the nutrients that
54:29
Speaker 2: I put myself that I give to my system.
54:33
Speaker 1: Within thirty five forty minutes. And that's my favorite dish
54:39
Speaker 1: in the world. Wow, amazing.
54:42
Speaker 3: And then lastly, share a fun fact about yourself or
54:45
Speaker 3: maybe a hobby that you do, and then how people
54:48
Speaker 3: can get in fashion learn more about your work.
54:53
Speaker 1: One of my well I have.
54:55
Speaker 2: So many hobbies, and my hobbies do like sometimes jump around,
54:59
Speaker 2: but I I always come back to dancing. I love
55:03
Speaker 2: how I feel after I dance, and I think it
55:09
Speaker 2: is one of my favorite forms of workouts, and especially
55:14
Speaker 2: I like to do the viral trends on TikTok believe.
55:20
Speaker 1: It or not, and I have a dance.
55:23
Speaker 2: Teacher who comes and teaches me and I call it
55:26
Speaker 2: my lunch break dance.
55:28
Speaker 1: Lesson, so I always like put it out.
55:30
Speaker 3: To my.
55:32
Speaker 1: All the people who decide to you know.
55:34
Speaker 2: Follow me for other things, they usually see a dance video,
55:38
Speaker 2: but meanwhile it's me during my lunch break. Instead of
55:41
Speaker 2: taking lunch, I do a dance class and I.
55:46
Speaker 1: Love it and I have found it so helpful for
55:50
Speaker 1: my brain and my body health that I recommend it
55:55
Speaker 1: to people to just you know, lift themselves. It is
55:59
Speaker 1: like one of my adjunct to.
56:01
Speaker 3: Help amazing hashtag IV cocktail and dance at lunch.
56:10
Speaker 1: Well, yes, you know.
56:11
Speaker 2: I mean sometimes you can't dance while you have an
56:13
Speaker 2: infusion in but definitely I feel that instead of instead
56:18
Speaker 2: of going and taking time to have lunch, try to
56:24
Speaker 2: just move your body and dance dance through lunch.
56:28
Speaker 3: All right, Well, thank you so much for this amazing conversation.
56:31
Speaker 3: I'm going to have all of your links and social
56:34
Speaker 3: media profiles and everything that you do in the show notes.
56:39
Speaker 3: And I think you're also offering a complimentary session for
56:44
Speaker 3: listeners so they can bookendo your schedule. Yeah, and I
56:48
Speaker 3: hope that we speak again.
56:50
Speaker 1: Take care.
56:50
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I really enjoyed our conversation and I hope to
56:56
Speaker 2: talk to you again.
56:57
Speaker 1: And I'll see you on social media.
56:59
Speaker 2: My handle is on Instagram. Is doctor Giovanni. Giovanni is
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Speaker 2: the place where I work, so it's j U V.
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Speaker 1: A double N.
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Speaker 2: I so doctor Giovanni on Instagram and you can find that.
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Speaker 2: Also find me also on TikTok and on Facebook you
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Speaker 1: Me as Sophia din At Sophia with an F And
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Speaker 2: I look forward to uh speaking to you again, my my.
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