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Saved by Hobbies and Overcoming Being Timid · Business Brain – The Entrepreneurs’ Podcast

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  Dave Hamilton: Business Brain, episode 780 for Wednesday, August 19th, National Aviation Day, 2026.
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  Dave Hamilton: And, hey, there's the song. I knew it would play.
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  Shannon Jean: Oh, there's some music. Oh, can't do that.
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  Dave Hamilton: Aviation has always been an interest of mine. It's not fair to call it a hobby
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  Dave Hamilton: because I don't actively participate in it anymore. But, you know,
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  Dave Hamilton: it's... It's interesting.
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  Shannon Jean: I love aviation. I'm not a huge fan of flying. I'm a huge fan of getting...
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  Shannon Jean: I'd like to get there, but I'm not a huge fan of getting in,
• 0:35
  Shannon Jean: sitting there and waiting.
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  Dave Hamilton: Oh, yeah. Well, I don't like that. Sitting on a plane is no fun.
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  Dave Hamilton: Unless, as my friend Pilot Pete, who's a co-host of Mac Geek,
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  Dave Hamilton: says, he's like, I don't care what seat.
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  Dave Hamilton: You know, anytime we fly together, like we go to CES or whatever,
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  Dave Hamilton: I'm like, do you care? He's like, well, I prefer an aisle. But other than that,
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  Dave Hamilton: he's like, I really don't care. He's like, the only seat that I prefer is the
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  Dave Hamilton: seat up front with the big window in front of it.
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  Dave Hamilton: Ah, yes. Because he used to fly triple sevens for a living and flew in the Marines.
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  Dave Hamilton: He flew Harriers in the Marines, which is like a crazy thing.
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  Shannon Jean: Yeah. That's nuts. Yeah.
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  Dave Hamilton: But, but yeah, I love, I love, I love flying, like flying a plane.
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  Dave Hamilton: Have you ever flown a plane?
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  Shannon Jean: No, I've never, never done.
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  Dave Hamilton: Oh, I recommend it. I mean, if you have an interest in it, sign up for what
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  Dave Hamilton: they would call a discovery flight. Right.
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  Dave Hamilton: And, and, and they'll take you up and, and it's essentially a flight lesson,
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  Dave Hamilton: but they put you in the left seat in the pilot seat you know they take off and
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  Dave Hamilton: land because you don't know how to do that yet,
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  Dave Hamilton: but they'll give you the controls once they get up and let you kind of play
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  Dave Hamilton: with it and learn and it's fun sounds,
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  Dave Hamilton: pretty interesting I was up with my brother once and the guy knew that it was
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  Dave Hamilton: not his first discovery flight so we had some fun and at one point we were up
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  Dave Hamilton: at maybe 5,000 feet or something and he just leans over and kills the engine,
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  Dave Hamilton: uh their instructor does and and this guy was seasoned you know and and he's like,
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  Dave Hamilton: well that what do you think about
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  Dave Hamilton: that and my brother was like well he's like uh i don't know he's like,
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  Dave Hamilton: we're still flying he's like we're probably losing altitude a little bit and
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  Dave Hamilton: he's like exactly he's like you don't panic when you lose your engine he's like
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  Dave Hamilton: yeah first thing you do is try to restart it you want to do that he's like yeah please.
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  Shannon Jean: That totally makes sense
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  Dave Hamilton: Yeah yeah it's interesting yeah but it is it all kind of plays into a topic
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  Dave Hamilton: you had on deck for us hobbies yeah.
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  Shannon Jean: So i'll tell you i i uh somehow i turned 61 years old yesterday
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  Dave Hamilton: That's right happy birthday oh yeah thanks.
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  Shannon Jean: Yeah somehow it snuck up on me over the last 30 years i still feel like i'm
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  Shannon Jean: 30 but uh one of the things i was thinking about it and um i posted about it
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  Shannon Jean: on x and i was looking And I was thinking, man,
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  Shannon Jean: I just feel like so fortunate to have lived this, continue to live this great
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  Shannon Jean: life and really different.
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  Shannon Jean: And one of the things that has the decisions that I made
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  Shannon Jean: that allowed me to live this uncommon life is to protect my hobbies and to keep my hobbies.
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  Shannon Jean: Because, and I, looking back, I notice it. At the time, I didn't really, you know, like- No,
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  Dave Hamilton: But you did it. You prioritized your hobbies. Yes. Yes, yes.
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  Shannon Jean: And there's, you know, we all go through, especially for, I think this is especially
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  Shannon Jean: important for entrepreneurs because
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  Shannon Jean: you don't want to wake up one day like I did yesterday and be 61 years old and
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  Shannon Jean: not have any hobbies because you have focused solely on your business or even your family.
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  Shannon Jean: And there are times in your life where you totally have to focus on those things 100%, right? Yes.
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  Shannon Jean: You're required to. Your kids are there. You're into everything they're doing.
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  Shannon Jean: Your business is like pushing you in all different directions.
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  Shannon Jean: So of course you have to focus on those things. So you're not gonna be able
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  Shannon Jean: to give yourself the time to do the, maybe every single thing you wanted to do, right?
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  Shannon Jean: But you can't abandon those hobbies. You can put them aside for a little bit.
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  Shannon Jean: And the reason I say that is like the happiest people I know that are my age, they all have hobbies.
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  Dave Hamilton: Yep.
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  Shannon Jean: Whether it be like you, playing in a band, being involved in music,
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  Shannon Jean: being involved in theater, you know, all the other things, whether it's me,
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  Shannon Jean: I like to fish, I like to hunt.
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  Shannon Jean: Exactly. We're coming up in, during, you know, three or four months during the
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  Shannon Jean: winter time. I hunt two or three times a week and I love it.
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  Shannon Jean: And it gets me out. And it does thing. And I remember specifically when my kids were little,
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  Shannon Jean: I still remember this conversation with my wife. I was like,
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  Shannon Jean: man, I'm never gonna be able to hunt again. And she was like, this is just a phase.
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  Shannon Jean: We're focused on these kids. We have to give them all of our attention.
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  Shannon Jean: Yes, you're not gonna be able to do this as much right now, but later you will
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  Shannon Jean: be able to. And that did, she's a very wise woman, that totally panned out. Yeah.
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  Shannon Jean: So as entrepreneurs, I think it's,
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  Shannon Jean: you know it's just i'm hyper focused on things i'm working on and it's easy
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  Shannon Jean: to let things fall by the wayside and think that your hobby is your business
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  Shannon Jean: or you you get lots of well you
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  Dave Hamilton: Can i mean you can take your hobbies and turn them into your businesses too
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  Dave Hamilton: and you did that as well i i want to make sure that we,
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  Dave Hamilton: because i've done the same thing yeah music is one of my hobbies and yes i've
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  Dave Hamilton: turned that into a business as well i mean a i make money playing music uh right b,
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  Dave Hamilton: i have a podcast for musicians right you know we have a company called backbeat
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  Dave Hamilton: media that my my partner named but it was like well you know our ceo is a drummer
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  Dave Hamilton: or whatever and uh but the other business that,
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  Dave Hamilton: i have is on the mac side right i have mac geek we started mac observer i've
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  Dave Hamilton: always been an apple fan and we started businesses with that you did the same
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  Dave Hamilton: thing with mac rescue like it it Let your hobbies feed your business interest because,
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  Dave Hamilton: you need to enjoy some aspect of it.
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  Dave Hamilton: You won't enjoy every aspect of your business life. That's just like there's
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  Dave Hamilton: going to be parts about it that suck.
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  Dave Hamilton: We talk about that here. In fact, it's most of what we talk about here,
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  Dave Hamilton: you know, because you got to process it and deal with it.
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  Dave Hamilton: But like pick something you enjoy. And if it's your hobby, that's OK.
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  Dave Hamilton: Like there is I am living proof that you can turn your hobbies into businesses
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  Dave Hamilton: and not hate your hobbies.
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  Shannon Jean: Yeah, I would say it's like this is two different sides of the same coin, right? It is.
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  Shannon Jean: Yes, you can turn your hobbies and monetize them and become businesses.
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  Shannon Jean: But in my case, I think in the Apple space or the Mac or all this kind of thing,
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  Shannon Jean: how I got into those businesses that we started,
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  Shannon Jean: I didn't look at them as hobbies anymore.
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  Shannon Jean: And i i i often say if you want to ruin something you love monetize it you know
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  Shannon Jean: because it thought that ruined it but i looked at it in a very different
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  Shannon Jean: uh way yeah over the years right yes yeah and so on the flip side of that coin is the
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  Shannon Jean: once you kind of get to the other side of the daily grind and you have all the
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  Shannon Jean: flexibility and freedom to make your own decisions Well,
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  Shannon Jean: I see people wreck it.
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  Shannon Jean: It's easy to wreck it because you can either get complacent or you don't have
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  Shannon Jean: passion for something else that maybe like, you sold your business or whatever,
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  Shannon Jean: semi-retired or retired.
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  Shannon Jean: So the hobbies, the things that you love,
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  Shannon Jean: they can fill in a lot of that life
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  Shannon Jean: that kind of changes over time because everything changes and you know,
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  Dave Hamilton: No, no, of course I have a question for you though. Um, because you're no longer
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  Dave Hamilton: in the, you don't, you, you sold Mac rescue, you sold tech restore.
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  Dave Hamilton: You're not in that world anymore.
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  Dave Hamilton: Um, do you still pay some amount of attention to Apple? That is more than you would write.
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  Dave Hamilton: So your hobby survived.
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  Dave Hamilton: You having had a business about it. and dispatching with that business.
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  Shannon Jean: Yeah i still follow everything i'm not as i don't wait in line to get you know
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  Shannon Jean: whatever sort of thing but but i'm always reading oh what's going on and what's
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  Shannon Jean: the next thing and yeah yeah for
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  Dave Hamilton: Sure it didn't kill it for you it may have suppressed it for a little while
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  Dave Hamilton: and i yeah i noticed that too um,
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  Dave Hamilton: you know certainly when we were running mac observer initially it was like this
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  Dave Hamilton: is amazing like you get to do this thing and pay attention and after a i was like
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  Dave Hamilton: i am sick and tired of paying this amount of attention to things and and that's
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  Dave Hamilton: really when i changed what i was doing there and and started mac geeka because,
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  Dave Hamilton: i like answering people's questions i still 21 years later now i mean this,
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  Dave Hamilton: might me wanting to help people solve their tech problems predated mac geeka by
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  Dave Hamilton: you know 15 years 20 years i my first career like when i said as a kid like
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  Dave Hamilton: if somebody asked me what do you want to be when you grow up my answer was i
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  Dave Hamilton: want to be a computer consultant now that was a not
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  Dave Hamilton: really a job back then but you know it's going to be and it is now
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  Dave Hamilton: and uh and that's essentially you know what we are on on mac key cab is i mean
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  Dave Hamilton: it's it's implemented in a different way we're not going to people's homes or
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  Dave Hamilton: anything but you know we're helping people solve their problems,
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  Dave Hamilton: and uh and and so like,
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  Dave Hamilton: taking the business and letting it morphing it to match your interests as you
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  Dave Hamilton: move on at I think it's a good thing maybe,
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  Dave Hamilton: it's kept me in it for long well it's kept me with the business longer than
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  Dave Hamilton: I probably if I didn't have Mac geek up I would have sold Mac observer probably 10 years prior,
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  Dave Hamilton: Mm, yeah. Right? So, and maybe that would have been better, maybe worse.
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  Dave Hamilton: I don't know. It doesn't matter. Yeah.
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  Shannon Jean: Well, there were times in my life where I could not even comprehend what it
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  Shannon Jean: would be like not having this business.
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  Dave Hamilton: Oh, same. Oh, yeah.
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  Shannon Jean: Like, it was not a part of my reality. And then when you sell one, you realize, oh, yeah.
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  Shannon Jean: Oh, okay. I can. It's okay. And then it's okay. And that's what we did the episode
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  Shannon Jean: last week about starting your second business. You should go back and listen
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  Shannon Jean: to that because it gives you a whole nother like superpower when you go do it again.
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  Dave Hamilton: Oh yeah. Oh, for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's cool. Yeah. It's good stuff.
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• 14:33
  Dave Hamilton: Yeah. I love it. Yeah, it's pretty good. All right, so speaking of music,
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  Dave Hamilton: I was on stage on Saturday night. We played this Led Zeppelin heart tribute
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  Dave Hamilton: thing. We called it Hold Lotta Heart.
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  Dave Hamilton: And we played it at the biggest theater in Portsmouth, New Hampshire, called the Music Hall.
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  Dave Hamilton: The theater holds about 800 people. I'd say we sold about 600 tickets.
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  Dave Hamilton: So there were a lot of people there. It was great. And we've done this thing
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  Dave Hamilton: before. We did it about 18 months ago at a different theater.
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  Dave Hamilton: But for this one i realized coming into it that the stakes were higher um,
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  Dave Hamilton: when we played at this other theater in my head now this may not have been true
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  Dave Hamilton: but it doesn't matter because it was in my head played at this other theater it felt a little safer,
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  Dave Hamilton: because everybody in my mind that came to that theater the the smaller place uh.
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  Dave Hamilton: Knew that this was a one-off concert for us that we weren't a you know a going
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  Dave Hamilton: concern as a led zeppelin slash heart tribute that plays all the time and rehearses
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  Dave Hamilton: all the time and is perfected and all these things right uh,
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  Dave Hamilton: but i knew that moving not too far down the street to the music hall,
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  Dave Hamilton: changes those stakes because that place has touring bands through there all
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  Dave Hamilton: the time You know, and and you would it would be very normal for them to bring
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  Dave Hamilton: in a touring, you know, Led Zeppelin tribute production.
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  Dave Hamilton: I saw Natalie Merchant there not that long ago. I mean, they bring in people.
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  Dave Hamilton: That's what that's their business. Right. I saw Ben Folds there like,
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  Dave Hamilton: you know, they bring in artists like that. Right.
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  Dave Hamilton: And so I'm thinking, man, there are going to be people here that know the Led
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  Dave Hamilton: Zeppelin drum parts better than me.
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  Dave Hamilton: Like this is this is just this is objectively true.
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  Dave Hamilton: And there's nothing that I can do in the next 15 minutes before I walk on stage
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  Dave Hamilton: to change this fact like they are already in their seats and I'm about to go sit in mine. Right.
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  Dave Hamilton: And and and the way I talked to myself through that was, well.
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  Dave Hamilton: We're we're as rehearsed as we're going to be i feel okay about this and the
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  Dave Hamilton: difference between me and that guy out there is that,
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  Dave Hamilton: uh i'm sitting on stage and he's sitting in the audience and i've earned my
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  Dave Hamilton: spot on stage we deserve this we we created this opportunity right right yeah
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  Dave Hamilton: we did this even if he's a better drummer than me it doesn't matter you know like we,
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  Dave Hamilton: we're the ones here and and we're going to deliver and for everybody and so
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  Dave Hamilton: you know screw that guy but for everybody else, please enjoy,
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  Dave Hamilton: you know, it's fine.
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  Dave Hamilton: Like that. You kind of have to do some of that, right? Plus this is Led Zeppelin
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  Dave Hamilton: music and it requires you to be aggressive.
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  Dave Hamilton: And what I found was, you know, once we were on stage with shows going, I'm,
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  Dave Hamilton: Any moment where I felt myself being like a little timid about like,
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  Dave Hamilton: should I like I could just play it safe?
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  Dave Hamilton: I realized that is not giving the show these people deserve.
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  Dave Hamilton: Like Led Zeppelin never played it safe on stage. Yeah, it did exactly the opposite.
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  Dave Hamilton: For sure. Right. They they went they they did what they wanted to do.
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  Dave Hamilton: And if it didn't land, that was OK.
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  Dave Hamilton: Right. you know and and so anytime and i realized this early early on in the gig thank goodness um,
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  Dave Hamilton: and it worked out really well people had a great time at the show we had a great
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  Dave Hamilton: time at the show it was it was it was by every measure of phenomenal success,
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  Dave Hamilton: and uh anytime i felt myself get timid,
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  Dave Hamilton: i would just play some big huge bombastic fill in the spirit of john bonham,
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  Dave Hamilton: and it was like i can like talk about being timid later but for right now
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  Dave Hamilton: i cannot be timid and if i ever notice myself being timid i'm just gonna play
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  Dave Hamilton: through it like i'm gonna overplay through it and okay and that worked like
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  Dave Hamilton: it worked for the crowd loved it because that's what they came to see.
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  Dave Hamilton: You know and i loved it because it was like nope i'm not gonna like i can be
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  Dave Hamilton: timid as long as i want but at some point,
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  Dave Hamilton: i'm either gonna like fall off the drum stool or i'm gonna i'm gonna deliver
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  Dave Hamilton: like it's one or the other you know and i'm not gonna let myself like you know
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  Dave Hamilton: crawl into a hole and fall off the drum stool so it's gonna be this way and,
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  Dave Hamilton: And it would serve me very well throughout the gig. And it will probably serve
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  Dave Hamilton: me well through future gigs with with any other project. You always kind of learn things.
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  Dave Hamilton: And as I was thinking about this, it was like, you know, this is true in in
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  Dave Hamilton: in life in general, but for our purposes specifically in business.
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  Dave Hamilton: There's no benefit to being timid about making decisions.
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  Dave Hamilton: There's no benefit in being timid about taking chances with your business.
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  Dave Hamilton: There's informed risk and which is what i was doing i know how to play the drums
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  Dave Hamilton: right like you know i have the functional knowledge of how to do this i can choose not to,
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  Dave Hamilton: or i can choose to and if it might not work out exactly well i might drop a
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  Dave Hamilton: stick could happen it's happened before definitely going to happen again,
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  Dave Hamilton: Maybe this is the moment. I don't know, but I won't know unless I try this, you know?
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  Dave Hamilton: And, and that was, that was kind of the, the, the meta lesson that I walked
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  Dave Hamilton: away from that gig with was like, no, it's like, anytime you're feeling timid,
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  Dave Hamilton: don't just play the field.
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  Shannon Jean: Your customers don't want you to be timid.
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  Dave Hamilton: They definitely don't want you to be, they will go to somebody else.
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  Dave Hamilton: They want you to solve their problems. Yeah. Yes.
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  Shannon Jean: If you're, they want their problem solved and they want somebody who's confident
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  Shannon Jean: in solving their problems. That's it. You know, that, that's huge.
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  Dave Hamilton: Communicate confidence. Yes.
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  Shannon Jean: Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.
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  Dave Hamilton: And that's huge. And it's communicating confidence in two directions,
• 20:20
  Dave Hamilton: right? You know, it's that whole fake it till you make it kind of thing, right?
• 20:22
  Dave Hamilton: You're communicating confidence to your customers and also to yourself.
• 20:26
  Dave Hamilton: Like you're both getting the same lesson out of this, you know?
• 20:30
  Shannon Jean: Absolutely.
• 20:31
  Dave Hamilton: And you will fail. One of the best things that happened on that gig was we as
• 20:37
  Dave Hamilton: a band. I mean, the first, I'll call it big error. I'm sure we were all making
• 20:42
  Dave Hamilton: little errors because that's just how it goes. The first big error was our singer.
• 20:46
  Dave Hamilton: He sang through a guitar solo that he should not have sung through.
• 20:49
  Dave Hamilton: But what it did was it made the band all like get out of our heads of like just
• 20:54
  Dave Hamilton: playing through the music like we know it to go. It was like,
• 20:56
  Dave Hamilton: oh, nope. Now we all need to pay attention to each other.
• 20:59
  Dave Hamilton: And that was great. It served us well for the rest of the night.
• 21:01
  Dave Hamilton: But it was one of those things where it was like, you know what?
• 21:04
  Dave Hamilton: We can make mistakes. We're all going to. He made the first one. Yeah.
• 21:08
  Dave Hamilton: He didn't make the last one. Let me tell you that. You know,
• 21:10
  Dave Hamilton: we all owned our parts in this and it was fine. Like, you know,
• 21:15
  Dave Hamilton: you just make it through. You just keep going.
• 21:18
  Shannon Jean: Yeah. I love it. Yeah. Yeah. That's huge. I agree. Is that.
• 21:22
  Shannon Jean: Being timid and overthinking it, you know, it's, you're just better off. You just got to go for it.
• 21:29
  Dave Hamilton: Just go for it.
• 21:29
  Shannon Jean: And, you know, that's what your, that's what your clients want.
• 21:32
  Shannon Jean: They want you to clear the path, solve the problem, provide the solution,
• 21:38
  Shannon Jean: whatever it is, and not be timid.
• 21:40
  Dave Hamilton: There was, there was a, there was a, yeah, the, and this lesson,
• 21:44
  Dave Hamilton: I'm not, certainly not the first person to, to share this lesson.
• 21:46
  Dave Hamilton: It's not the first time I've heard this lesson, but sometimes you implement
• 21:50
  Dave Hamilton: it in a way that resonates and it's like, oh, now I understand this.
• 21:54
  Dave Hamilton: You know, I'm reminded of the there's a scene in it's a wonderfully stupid movie.
• 22:00
  Dave Hamilton: We're the Millers with Jason Sudeikis.
• 22:03
  Dave Hamilton: And he's like trying to teach this younger kid guy, you know,
• 22:09
  Dave Hamilton: how to like approach girls, you know, and he's like, anytime I'm nervous.
• 22:14
  Dave Hamilton: Like it what i do is i just count to three real fast and then i just go do it
• 22:19
  Dave Hamilton: because i can overthink it and i can stay in my head forever
• 22:21
  Dave Hamilton: but instead he was i think he was talking about like kissing a girl or something
• 22:25
  Dave Hamilton: and he's like yeah what i do instead is i just go one two three and then i kiss
• 22:28
  Dave Hamilton: him like that's it like it's gonna happen and it's the same thing it's just
• 22:32
  Dave Hamilton: you know it's just just doing and plow.
• 22:35
  Shannon Jean: Fold 80 of the time maybe more it's gonna turn out
• 22:37
  Dave Hamilton: In your favor just fine yeah you you know what you're like you already have
• 22:41
  Dave Hamilton: all the information stop thinking about it just just yeah.
• 22:45
  Shannon Jean: Yeah yeah the biggest competitors inside your head
• 22:47
  Dave Hamilton: Every single time yeah man yeah that's it.
• 22:50
  Shannon Jean: Yeah awesome good lesson
• 22:53
  Dave Hamilton: Yeah no it was a good lesson on stage it was um like i yeah served me well on
• 22:58
  Dave Hamilton: saturday and it has served me well since.
• 23:00
  Shannon Jean: Yeah yeah that's good what's the big takeaway for this episode
• 23:03
  Dave Hamilton: Um man i i mean it's it's you know if We distill it down. It's the importance,
• 23:09
  Dave Hamilton: of protect your hobbies. I liked that efficient way of saying it.
• 23:15
  Dave Hamilton: And also just do it.
• 23:19
  Dave Hamilton: Yeah. Play the field day.
• 23:20
  Shannon Jean: Don't be timid.
• 23:21
  Dave Hamilton: Don't be timid. Yeah. Yeah.
• 23:23
  Shannon Jean: I like it.
• 23:24
  Dave Hamilton: I don't know which one's more important. I like my life is impacted by both
• 23:29
  Dave Hamilton: of those in positive ways.
• 23:31
  Shannon Jean: I'm going to choose hobbies just because I brought it up.
• 23:35
  Shannon Jean: But I don't know. They are both super important. I think probably for your business.
• 23:39
  Dave Hamilton: I think for your business, it's the second one. Don't be timid.
• 23:42
  Shannon Jean: Yeah. Don't be timid. Yeah. I think don't be timid is a big takeaway.
• 23:46
  Shannon Jean: And we're going to dig into that more in our business blueprints that we do
• 23:50
  Shannon Jean: after every episode. And you can
• 23:52
  Shannon Jean: download that at businessbrain.show slash blueprint. It'll be up there.
• 23:58
  Shannon Jean: What day is today? Today's Monday when we're recording. So it'll be up there
• 24:00
  Shannon Jean: on Wednesday. And when you hear this,
• 24:03
  Dave Hamilton: Love to see it. Thanks for hanging out with everybody. Make sure to check that
• 24:05
  Dave Hamilton: out. Businessbrain.show slash blueprint.
• 24:08
  Dave Hamilton: And keep living that charmed life. We will see you on Friday for Friday Eye.
• 24:13
  Shannon Jean: See ya.