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Getting you ready for the 2026 college football season · The Jake Wimberly Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Had a great three hours today on the drive, talking
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  Speaker 1: a lot of high school and talking some college and
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  Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff. Let me get this other issue
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  Speaker 1: set up here. Let me tee the show up for you.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to get right on going here on a
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  Speaker 1: Wednesday night. We've got Rafael Esparza on with us to
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  Speaker 1: talk all things college and the NFL. We'll have Rob
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  Speaker 1: Brown coming in at 8.30 with Sidelines, host of Sidelines.live,
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  Speaker 1: and Rob will talk SEC football with us Big stories
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  Speaker 1: coming out in the NCAA today. We'll get to it
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  Speaker 1: with Rafael Esparza and more. As a matter of fact,
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  Speaker 1: Esparza is already back here. Let's go ahead and bring
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  Speaker 1: him on and get him in. Rafael Esparza, mybookie.ag, and others. Esparza,
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  Speaker 1: can you hear me?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I can. Can you hear me?
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  Speaker 1: I got you. I got you. Ben, how in the
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  Speaker 1: world are you tonight? Of course, we've got a lot
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  Speaker 1: to get to. It's hot here in Mississippi on a
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  Speaker 1: Wednesday night.
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  Speaker 2: It's hot everywhere. I mean, I speak to my friends
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  Speaker 2: and family in Vegas and Phoenix, you guys in Mississippi,
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  Speaker 2: my brother-in-law in Florida. It's just hot everywhere. It doesn't
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  Speaker 2: matter where you're at, unless you're in maybe Alaska and Maine.
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  Speaker 1: No, you're absolutely right. All right, biggest story of the day.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to put this on the screen. I want
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  Speaker 1: to get your thoughts. You may have seen it. It
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  Speaker 1: broke late this afternoon. As we look here, courtesy of X. LSU,
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  Speaker 1: former LSU edge rusher Jack Pyburn and current Tampa Bay
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  Speaker 1: Buccaneers defensive end filed a lawsuit today against the NCAA
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  Speaker 1: seeking a preliminary injunction that will give him the option
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  Speaker 1: to return to college. Sources tell these guys, Chris Hummer
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  Speaker 1: and others on On3 Sports. I bring that up because
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  Speaker 1: there's like 10 guys now that are in NFL camps
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  Speaker 1: that are looking to come back to college. And think
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  Speaker 1: about this now. We're 10 days away from week zero.
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  Speaker 1: We're less than two weeks away from week one. I
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  Speaker 1: think this is a case of, one, you know, these
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  Speaker 1: judges getting involved in the NCAA, which they have no
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  Speaker 1: business being. And the two of these guys know they're
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  Speaker 1: not going to make the 53-man roster. They're just– they're not.
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  Speaker 1: Have you seen this? Do you have any thoughts on this?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're dead right that they're not going to make
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  Speaker 2: the roster. And I'm glad that they're not. Boo-hoo for
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  Speaker 2: a jumping ship thinking you were going to make it
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  Speaker 2: to the NFL because you either got bad advice, you
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  Speaker 2: probably got bad parent advice because I think a lot
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  Speaker 2: of these kids make moves because their parents– are telling
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  Speaker 2: them to make the jump, maybe even take more money
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  Speaker 2: like NIL and stuff like that. So to me, it's just,
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  Speaker 2: you can't open up that can of worms and say,
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  Speaker 2: you just said week zero is 10 days away. And
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  Speaker 2: you can't say, okay, you can go to LSU. There's
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  Speaker 2: no way, A, these players are going to accept this
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  Speaker 2: guy in the locker room, this kid in the locker room,
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  Speaker 2: and you nailed it. They're not going to make the roster.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, I agree with you. A lot
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  Speaker 1: of people won't want them in the locker room, but
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  Speaker 1: then some will. Let's just say take Ole Miss, who
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  Speaker 1: has three guys that are looking to come back, if
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  Speaker 1: Ole Miss doesn't have a place for them and the
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  Speaker 1: transfer portal window is open, which it looks like it
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  Speaker 1: will be, let's say Ohio State needs another defensive end.
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  Speaker 1: What happens to the guy? I mean, you only got
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  Speaker 1: so many spots. If you have no spots, does a
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  Speaker 1: guy get kicked to the curb? I have so many
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  Speaker 1: questions about this today.
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  Speaker 2: I still don't think other schools would take that just
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  Speaker 2: because you're opening up Pandora's box even wider than it
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  Speaker 2: is already. And I don't want to hear we'll use
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  Speaker 2: Ole Miss. Okay, Ole Miss accepts these three guys. The
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  Speaker 2: transfer port is open. One of them goes to Ohio
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  Speaker 2: State and Ohio State says, OK, we'll take you. And
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  Speaker 2: then down the road, two years ago, Ohio State's complaining
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  Speaker 2: because something happened to them. Well, they're the one that
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  Speaker 2: baked the cake. So you got to keep on stop
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  Speaker 2: baking a cake and just just dump the cake, because
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  Speaker 2: if you keep on baking and you keep on eating it,
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  Speaker 2: it's going to come back and bite you.
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  Speaker 1: Let's jump over to some odds courtesy of several shops.
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  Speaker 1: I want to get your thoughts. I want to talk
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  Speaker 1: a little national championship odds. And, you know, the AP
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  Speaker 1: came out. I know we talked on the Daily Show
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  Speaker 1: the other day about our like or dislike for the
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  Speaker 1: AP poll. I want to look at some of these
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  Speaker 1: real quickly. Let me see if I could pull this
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  Speaker 1: up just for the viewing purposes here on the retail
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  Speaker 1: shops here. You know, when we look at some of
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  Speaker 1: these and let me make sure, you know, we've got
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  Speaker 1: them right here. Let me hide that logo just to
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  Speaker 1: kind of get that out of the way there. So
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  Speaker 1: let's start with Notre Dame. And depending on the shop,
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  Speaker 1: and I know you've got numbers, you do numbers, Notre
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  Speaker 1: Dame right now, At plus 550, Ohio State at six
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  Speaker 1: to one. You know, Notre Dame has been a favorite,
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  Speaker 1: I think, by Vegas, you know, for most of the preseason.
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  Speaker 1: Your thoughts on Notre Dame at, you know, right around
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  Speaker 1: five to five and a half and their value. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: you guys love Notre Dame this year.
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  Speaker 2: It's not that we love Notre Dame. It's just the
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  Speaker 2: money keeps on coming in on Notre Dame. I tell
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  Speaker 2: people this all the time. If you see a favorite,
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  Speaker 2: it does not mean Vegas thinks they're the favorite that's
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  Speaker 2: going to win it. That's telling you that the betting
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  Speaker 2: public is making them the favorite as the money keeps
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  Speaker 2: on coming in. Notre Dame, every year, Notre Dame has
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  Speaker 2: probably the top three tickets written for futures because there's
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  Speaker 2: so many touchdown Jesus fans out there. They're the Dallas
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  Speaker 2: Cowboys fans. of college football. Yes, they're popular. Yes, this
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  Speaker 2: is our year. Do they make it our year? No.
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  Speaker 2: They're like my Chicago Cubs until 2016 when we finally
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  Speaker 2: won the World Series. It's just constant money coming in.
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  Speaker 2: This year is different because that schedule is very, very weak.
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  Speaker 2: So I think that's probably a little bit boostering, a
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  Speaker 2: little bit more money coming in on Notre Dame. But
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  Speaker 2: you can still make it to the dance. Doesn't mean
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  Speaker 2: you're going to complete the dance. And I don't think
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  Speaker 2: you're going to complete the dance.
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  Speaker 1: Now, Ohio State, this is a team that won it
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  Speaker 1: a couple years ago. You know, Big Ten, obviously we
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  Speaker 1: know three straight national championships, Michigan, Ohio State, Indiana. And, boy,
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  Speaker 1: I tell you what, Indiana, there's some videos coming out
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  Speaker 1: of Indiana camp. Their new quarterback that comes over, Josh
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  Speaker 1: Hoover from TCU, he looks really, really good. We'll get
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  Speaker 1: to Indiana in a bit. But, you know, here's what's
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  Speaker 1: interesting about NIL and pay-for-play is, you know, it's documented
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  Speaker 1: by several sources like, you know, the Wall Street Journal, also,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Sports Business Journal and others. Ohio State spent
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  Speaker 1: around $ 25 million a couple years ago on that team
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  Speaker 1: they won. This year, they'll spend close to $ 40 million
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  Speaker 1: to $ 50 million if they win it. It looks like
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  Speaker 1: Ryan Day has got a really good football team. The
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  Speaker 1: AP thinks so. They're number one in the preseason.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think they're spending because they need a win.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, Michigan has their number, except for last year.
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  Speaker 2: Indiana surprised everybody. Everyone's talking about Notre Dame, Texas. Oregon,
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  Speaker 2: I just think Ohio State, they got okay to write
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  Speaker 2: the checks because I think they just need a championship
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  Speaker 2: right now. They're almost like the New York Yankees back
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  Speaker 2: in the day. That's what Ohio State's reminding me. They're
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  Speaker 2: just signing, signing. And sometimes money doesn't usually pay. Don't forget,
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  Speaker 2: Luis Gonzalez, the Arizona Diamondbacks, when they beat the Yankees,
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  Speaker 2: a little base hit up the middle. That payroll for
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  Speaker 2: Arizona was not big. And I just think sometimes money
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  Speaker 2: doesn't pay. Look at Texas Tech.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, you're absolutely right. Speaking of Texas Tech, but
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  Speaker 1: let's go to Texas. You know, everybody eye rolls Texas.
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  Speaker 1: We talked about Texas last week when you were on here,
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  Speaker 1: and we've talked about Texas before. Nobody's going to believe
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  Speaker 1: Texas or Oregon right there. Oregon at 7-1, Texas at 7-1.
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  Speaker 1: But both have really good quarterbacks. Both have really good teams. And,
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  Speaker 1: you know, when you look at Indiana right behind them
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  Speaker 1: and then Georgia and then Miami, I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: that's the cut line behind Miami. Where is the cut
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  Speaker 1: line to the real contenders this year?
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  Speaker 2: I think it is right there. I think there's, what,
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  Speaker 2: seven teams that I would have up there. I think
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  Speaker 2: the cut line is Miami because no disrespect to the
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  Speaker 2: Bayou Bengals, LSU. I just don't think they're– I don't
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  Speaker 2: have them up there. And I can't say Texas A
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  Speaker 2: & M just because how many years have we said
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  Speaker 2: this is Texas A & M' s year. So I think
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  Speaker 2: the cut line is Miami. I'll have Ohio State, Notre Dame, Texas, Oregon.
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  Speaker 2: You know what? I'm not even going to say Indiana
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  Speaker 2: because I'm still not sold on them. I'll say Georgia, Miami,
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  Speaker 2: and then maybe I'm going to say Indiana might be
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  Speaker 2: that cut. Like I would make Indiana probably double digits.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think they're worthy of a single digits to
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  Speaker 2: win it all.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Alabama down, down the, you know, down the
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  Speaker 1: chute there around 20 to one lowest ranking in the
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  Speaker 1: AP in 20 years, lowest odds. And gosh, you can
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  Speaker 1: probably tell me this 20 years, maybe since we're 17 years.
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  Speaker 1: Are we undervaluing Alabama? Yes.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's because they just bash them now. I mean, boy,
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  Speaker 2: ever since Nick Saban left, they're just a laughingstock, I think,
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  Speaker 2: of the SEC since Saban is gone. It doesn't help
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  Speaker 2: when the media is trashing them, saying that, oh, this
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  Speaker 2: head coach stinks if he doesn't win. 12 games every year,
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  Speaker 2: they should fire him. It's not Alabama's way. Well, this
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  Speaker 2: is not college football back in the day when Nick
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  Speaker 2: Saban was there. This is a totally different game, but
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  Speaker 2: I think they're a little bit undervalued. I just think
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  Speaker 2: their offensive line needs to play much better than we
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  Speaker 2: saw last year. I think that's why their offense struggled
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  Speaker 2: because their offensive line was not good. I'm not going
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  Speaker 2: to say they're better than Texas and Georgia. I think
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  Speaker 2: maybe even Oklahoma might be a little bit up there
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  Speaker 2: with Alabama, but I think the creme of the cremes
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  Speaker 2: of the SEC, it's got to be Texas and Georgia.
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  Speaker 1: What about USC? I know we've talked about USC with
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  Speaker 1: you before. You know, Lincoln Riley's been very vocal this
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  Speaker 1: year about his team. He likes his team. He likes
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  Speaker 1: his quarterback, Jaden Mavia. They're a team that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I think when the Pac-12 and they merged recently, know
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  Speaker 1: essentially with the big 10 everybody would have said 10
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  Speaker 1: years ago it's usc usc is going to come in
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  Speaker 1: and wreck the place they have they haven't done that
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  Speaker 1: it's been oregon can usc be a player not only
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  Speaker 1: in the big 10 but nationally this year.
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  Speaker 2: I think I like what USC has done. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I guess their quarterback is going to be much experienced
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  Speaker 2: this year, but they boosted their offensive line. And I
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  Speaker 2: think we talked about this last year. If you want
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  Speaker 2: to play the Big Ten, yes, there's a lot of
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  Speaker 2: new faces in the Big Ten, but you still need
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  Speaker 2: to play Big Ten football. And that's run the ball.
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  Speaker 2: And USC sometimes likes to get a little bit too
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  Speaker 2: cute with their quarterback and their wide receivers and tight ends.
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  Speaker 2: So I think if they can run the ball, they'll
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  Speaker 2: be a little bit much better than we've seen in
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  Speaker 2: years past. But it's going to be very hard to
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  Speaker 2: beat Oregon today. and everyone else in a Big Ten schedule. Hey,
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  Speaker 2: let's talk.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, Rafael Esparza is with us, and you can
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  Speaker 1: follow him on X, TikTok, and more. He's been doing sports.
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  Speaker 1: You've been handicapping how long now?
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  Speaker 2: Wow. It's going to be close to 30 years.
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  Speaker 1: 30 years. So, I mean, he's one of the best
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  Speaker 1: in the business. That's why we get him on. Go
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  Speaker 1: ask you about win totals, because a lot of people,
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  Speaker 1: I think, get confused with win totals. They'll say, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: my gosh. Ole Miss at only eight and a half.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, what are you talking about? They just almost
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  Speaker 1: played for a national championship. Win totals take us through
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  Speaker 1: how those are not how the cake is made, but
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  Speaker 1: the rationale, because as a sports gamer and somebody that
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  Speaker 1: wants to, you know, get action, you got to get
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  Speaker 1: action on both sides.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: So if you got people arguing over, oh, it's eight
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  Speaker 1: and a half. Are you kidding? They're above it. They're
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  Speaker 1: below it. You guys have done your job of that.
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  Speaker 2: It's for this case right here. It's brilliant for us
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  Speaker 2: to do it because we're going to get the LSU
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  Speaker 2: lovers that's going to bet the under an Ole Miss
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  Speaker 2: and you get to get Ole Miss things. Oh, you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's screw Kiffin. We're going to go double digit wins.
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  Speaker 2: So for us, it was a perfect number to get
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  Speaker 2: balance action because you had. Two hateful sides. It was
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  Speaker 2: almost like back in the day when Tom Brady and
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  Speaker 2: the Patriots were just winning Super Bowls. We would set
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  Speaker 2: the number just a tad lower than it actually should.
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  Speaker 2: But we had to because there were so many haters
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  Speaker 2: than there were believers of Tom Brady and the Patriots.
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  Speaker 2: So we would get so much hate money. And right
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  Speaker 2: here is a perfect example. We're getting so much hate money.
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  Speaker 2: Both sides to balance it off. So it's a great number.
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  Speaker 2: I thought it should have been a tad higher. I
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  Speaker 2: like this Ole Miss team. I think they're going to
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  Speaker 2: do well because they still have a chip on their shoulder.
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  Speaker 2: It's not like two, three years that Kiffin left. This
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  Speaker 2: is still really, really raw. And I think these kids,
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  Speaker 2: they're going to put the uniform on and want to
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  Speaker 2: play not only for their head coach, but for their state,
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  Speaker 2: for their fans, and for the logo that's on the helmet.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And, you know, when you look at a team
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  Speaker 1: like Georgia, who maybe has, and I did notice this,
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  Speaker 1: and unless it's changed, I don't have him in front
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  Speaker 1: of me, no SEC team with a double digit win
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  Speaker 1: total this year, unless that's changed, which is very interesting
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  Speaker 1: to me.
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  Speaker 2: That's why you already know my pick is Oregon to
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  Speaker 2: win it all. But I have Oregon beating Georgia in
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  Speaker 2: a national championship. It would not shock me. And you
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  Speaker 2: know me. I love to bash the SEC. Been doing
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  Speaker 2: it on your show for years past. But it would
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  Speaker 2: not shock me if the SEC, if the only team
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  Speaker 2: I think SEC would win, it would be Georgia this year.
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  Speaker 2: It's the only team that I think they can probably
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  Speaker 2: win it all. I love their defense. I love the
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  Speaker 2: speed and the secondary defense. I love the running backs.
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  Speaker 2: Georgia is going to be a tough out. That's why
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  Speaker 2: I have them playing Oregon in the national championship.
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  Speaker 1: Rafael Esparza on with us tonight. Let's shift over and
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  Speaker 1: talk a little NFL. First off, are you at least
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  Speaker 1: I know you're not a big NFL preseason guy. Are
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  Speaker 1: you at least intrigued with all the fights that's.
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  Speaker 2: Going on at camp? I was really intrigued with the Saints.
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  Speaker 2: Who would have thought a former dad that's a former
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: wrestler body slams a Cowboys fan? That's just great social media.
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  Speaker 2: But no, it doesn't really bother me with these fights.
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  Speaker 2: And I tell people, everyone keeps on asking me, oh,
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  Speaker 2: is week two betting action going to be much higher
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  Speaker 2: than week one? You have to be put... Now that
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  Speaker 2: all these teams are playing another team in practice, the
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  Speaker 2: starters are going to play these practices. They're going to
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  Speaker 2: get these snaps against the other team that they're practicing.
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  Speaker 2: They're not going to get the snaps in week two preseason.
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  Speaker 2: Week two preseason is still for the backups and for
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  Speaker 2: the third stringers and maybe the fourth stringers who are
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  Speaker 2: still trying to make the practice squad. So I don't
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  Speaker 2: think it just because week two, Oh yeah, the starters will, Oh,
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  Speaker 2: the starters are playing. They're probably playing a couple of snaps,
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  Speaker 2: maybe one quarter. Are you going to risk your money
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  Speaker 2: or a hard earned money on a third and fourth
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  Speaker 2: stringer in a third and fourth quarter stuff like that.
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  Speaker 2: So be very cautious just because it's week two, but
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  Speaker 2: I love the fights and I love these teams playing
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  Speaker 2: another team and practices.
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  Speaker 1: Let's take a look at the futures for the Superbowl
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  Speaker 1: real quickly. And I want to get your thoughts on
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  Speaker 1: this because again, It seems like if we look at this,
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  Speaker 1: let me pull this in here, you'll see real quickly
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  Speaker 1: the Rams. It looks like, from what I see, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: the Rams are sitting at 5-1 to win the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: We know how talented they are. And then 10-1 for
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  Speaker 1: the Bills, 11-1 to the Ravens and the Seahawks, and
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  Speaker 1: then a big drop to Kansas City at 15-1 and
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: then Detroit. Have we had a year like this where it's,
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: you know, typically we get one or two or three
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: teams at the top, that have a pretty– it looks
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: like a large disparity between the Rams and everybody else
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: this year.
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: Well, I just think the Rams have dominated the news.
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, with Donald probably coming back. I mean, defense
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: is just going to be lights out. I'm still very cautious.
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: If their quarterback goes out with a back injury, and
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: I can really talk about back injuries because I'm suffering
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: from one right now, I think they're done. I mean,
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: they're not going to be the Baltimore Ravens who won
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: the Super Bowl because of defense, but they had a
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: running game. They had a really good offensive line. the
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: Ravens did when they won that Super Bowl with Flacco's
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: first year. So the health of the offense kind of
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: scares me about the Rams. The defense doesn't scare me
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: because not only do they have stars all over the field,
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: but their backup defensive players are really good as well.
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: But I understand why people are betting the Rams because
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: they're dominating social media. They're dominating the news in the NFL.
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: So it would not shock me that they continue to
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: be the bet favorites.
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: You don't hear a whole lot about the Super Bowl
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: champion Seahawks. At least I haven't. I mean, I'm sure
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: it is in the Midwest. But are we underselling the
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: Seahawks here?
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: I mean, you can get them anywhere from 10-0-1. I
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: even saw 14-0-1 on a defending champions who pretty much
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: have everyone back. And they're like, oh, but they lost
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: their running back. Running backs are still a dime a dozen.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: There's maybe two or three running backs I cannot say
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: they're a dime a dozen. Everyone else in the league,
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: a running back is a dime a dozen. I think
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: they didn't lose that much of this team. They're still
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: going to have a fantastic defense. Can their quarterback do
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: what he did last year? Last year, he had a
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: chip on his shoulder. Brand new jersey. He wanted to
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: show the Vikings that he could still play. He won
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. Who's going to be that team this
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: year that has maybe a new quarterback with a new
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: jersey that can still do that? I think the Seahawks.
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: They have a bullseye in their head. I don't see
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: them repeating, but they are getting disrespected.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: Who's the best team in the AFC? I know a
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: lot of people are going to pick Baltimore. Vegas likes Baltimore.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: Is it Baltimore?
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: I do not like the Bills or both. I've been
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: saying this since last year, beginning of last year. The
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: Bills' window's closed. I think the Ravens' window's closed. I
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: think this quarterback with Lamar Jackson, still not signed and
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: stuff like that. King Henry gets older every year. I'm
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: not saying that he stinks, but right now. But in
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: the NFL... Years past usually catches up to you. And
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: sooner or later, Father Time's going to catch up to
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: King Henry. Father Time's going to catch up to Lamar Jackson,
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: who got hurt last year. I can't put my hard-earned
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: money on those two teams. I can't put it on
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: the Bengals because they still haven't showed me anything in
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: the defense. That's why I think the NFC, if you
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: can get who's going to win a Super Bowl, NFC
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: or AFC, I would grab the NFC. It's a really
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: short number. NFC just has so many good teams. And
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: AFC just has so many question marks.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: No, they do. Speaking of question marks, and you know,
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: I think I've told you this. I don't talk a
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: lot about them. The Miami Dolphins, that is my favorite team.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: It always has. Yeah, I know. Look, haven't seen anything
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: since Danny Marino. Look, they haven't made the playoffs since 2000.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: I think that's the longest streak in the NFL. You
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: look at a franchise like that, you have to start
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: scratching your head and go, why? Like, why are they
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: so bad? You look at the Jets. Why? Cleveland. Why?
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: Some of these franchises, you know, we talk so much
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: about the Super Bowl side, but Why are some of
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: these franchises so bad? Does it come down to ownership?
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: I think it does come down to ownership. I mean,
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: is that like they're not spending money? I think they're
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: just getting bad advice and the players that they're spending
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: money on just don't work out. I mean, look at
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: the Jets. How many times did they sign someone and think, oh,
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: this is going to change their season? And it just doesn't.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: So I think a lot of it has to do
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: with ownership. I don't know what's going on in Miami.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: That's a big puzzling. They did strike out on Tua.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: They thought he was going to be that quarterback, and
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: he wasn't. I'm glad that they moved on from him now.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: We talked about this last week. This quarterback class that's
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: coming in next year is really, really, really good. So
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: if you're the Dolphins and all that, okay, maybe... yes
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: let's win less than four and a half because i
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: total season wins is four and a half i can't
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: i i have looked at the dolphin schedule for the
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: past two i cannot find a fifth win i have
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: them dead three i can't either and i'm not saying
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: it to make fun of the dolphin fans and i'm
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: including you i didn't know you were a dolphin fan
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: i cannot find a fifth.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: Win yeah well you wouldn't know i'm a dolphin fan
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: because we don't ever talk about them because they're not
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: like literally i've told beaver before even on air on
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: our show on ESPN Radio 105.9 is last year. I
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: thought about doing something I never thought I would do
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: is switching NFL teams. I'm not a big believer in that,
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: but I'm like, man, it's been look, it was the
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: year 2000. We're talking about pre pre iPhone, you know,
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: pre inter, I mean, pre social media. And why Dan
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: Marino has never gotten more involved with that franchise, I'll
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: never know. Maybe he's tried.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: I have no idea. I was at Caesars Palace in
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: 2000 with the Miami. Really? Yeah, I was working at
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: Caesars Palace in their sports book.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: We got a few more minutes left here with Rafael Esparza.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: We're going to let him tell you where you can
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: get all his content.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: I'm going to answer Sean's question. Sean in the chat,
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: how about them boys? I'm going to say it right here.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: I'm going to say it right here. I said in
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: a couple shows that I do, I do a lot
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: of shows, Dallas Cowboys win the division. I don't like
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: the Eagles. I think they might be firing their head coach.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: I think Hurst is– Too many people in his head.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: I think the Dallas Cowboys win the division. I don't
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: like the commanders, especially with Jane Daniels, number five contract.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: I heard they're ripping him in a locker room. And
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: so when they're making fun of you in a locker room,
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: I bet you a lot of those players think that
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: they're being funny but actually being harsh at the same time.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: And he thinks... They're just joking around. That's just a horrible,
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: horrible thing to go into the season, being the punch
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: of the joke. And it's going to be all season long.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: It's not going to go away. And I just don't
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: trust the New York Giants. We saw them almost lose
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: their quarterback last week. Jackson Dart got crushed. He's going
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: to be maybe in a tent more than they might
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: win wins. So I think it's the Cowboys. I love
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: their offense. They had one of the best drafts. I
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: think their draft had great, great signings by the defense.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: And it's hard for me to say Cowboys because my
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: twin brother is a diehard Dallas Cowboy fan, and there's
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: nothing better for me than sending him memes about how
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: bad the Cowboys are. Ooh, and they just lost another one.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: It makes my day on NFL Sunday, but I think
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: they win a division.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: Could you imagine if the Cowboys make the Super Bowl
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: how obnoxious that fan base would be?
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: It would be obnoxious, but it would be good for
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: the league at the same time. Yeah. I agree. I mean,
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: I know people are like, oh, finally they'll win one.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: But can you imagine? It's like the Knicks. Look how
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: the Knicks won the NBA championship. That was great for
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: the league. Fantastic for the league. And I think it
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: would benefit the league. Yes, we would all still make
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: fun of them. This would be the only Super Bowl
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: champ that Monday we're all still make fun of them.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: They'll be like, finally they won a Super Bowl. Yeah,
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: we would still make fun of them. But they're Super
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Bowl champs. It doesn't matter if we make fun of
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: them on Super Bowl Monday.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: Hey, before we get you out of here, let me
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: ask you this. You probably saw it. Roger Goodell said
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: yesterday he was on a radio show or a podcast. Hey, yes,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: he envisions the NFL will have a team overseas at
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: some point. And we've talked about this. They're not playing
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: all these games overseas. I think, what is it? How
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: many games?
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: Seven?
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: Maybe I'm under seven this year. Seven this year. When
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: do we get that team and where is.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: It at maybe? I think it's probably going to be
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: in England or something like that. I mean, they'll probably
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: just make the Jacksonville Jaguars play there. That's their second home.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: And I think that's the knife that might start bringing
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: down the high point of the NFL. I mean, we've
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: seen what it just reminds me of when NASCAR was
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: such a high peak and all of a sudden every
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: state wanted two races instead of one race. They went, OK,
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: we want Vegas one or we want two races now
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: in Vegas. And it just will go down. I think
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: if they go overseas, if they put a team there,
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: I think that brings that could be the popularity that
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: brings them down and not the old mega NFL fans
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: are not going to like that. Players are not going
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: to like that traveling and stuff like that. I think
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: that brings the NFL back to some I don't want
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: to say it's not going to be the number one
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: sport in America. I'm not saying that, but I think
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: that's going to hurt a lot of fan bases. Yeah.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: Sean says he's driving to SoFi after Cowboys make it, though.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: We'll be there, Sean. I would love to meet you.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: I think this is my sixth Super Bowl doing media roles.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: And FanDuel has tried to kick me out four straight years,
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: so I'm going to try to make that a record
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: five straight. Really? Really.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: Do you care to elaborate on that or is that
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: a cut? No.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: No, I mean, because you know me, I do all
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: the crazy prep bets and they don't like me working
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: with non-sanctioned books like my bookie and stuff like that
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: and all the other books and stuff like that. And
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: the one in Vegas was the one that really pissed
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: me off because I'm not saying I'm the only one
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: that did Taylor Swift betting ads when the Kansas City Chiefs,
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: but I probably did 80% of the ones that the
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: people were using a Taylor Swift and everyone wanted to
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: talk to me on press row. Everyone, Oh, you're the
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: one that did all that. Yeah.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: So everyone, but Brandy was getting so mad. And so
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: then I heard that they were trying to get me
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: to escort it out. They, they were like, he works there.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't work. I'm a consultant there. I
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: consult them. I don't, I don't have a employee number.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: I don't have stock on them, but yeah. So, and
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: then last year I made odds for, do you remember that, uh,
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: Eli and Peyton were going to kick a field goal.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: It was at two years ago, so I did odds
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: on that, and they couldn't put odds on that. I
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: was in front of their booth the whole time doing
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: TikTok shorts and stuff like that, saying when the number
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: would move, hey, you can still bet that over here
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: and stuff like that. That was on me. I was
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: poking the bear.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: Hey, tell everybody where to follow you on social media channels.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: We want to come see you.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you can follow me on X at VSA.Sports. You
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: can follow me on Instagram at Rafael Esparza. I'll be
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: putting out a lot of new stuff out there. I
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: have a new segment called A Trend is My Cashing Friend.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: We're 3-0 on a new one, stuff like that. It
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: all depends on what the number you got. I'm glad
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: you mentioned that. Please shop around. If you have DraftKings
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: and FanDuel, Also, open up another book, My Bookie, a
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: perfect example. Notre Dame, some books have 701, 801. My
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: Bookie has plus 850. Why would you take 701 at
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: your DraftKings and FanBook when you can get plus 850
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: in another book? Always shop around to get the best number.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: He's Rafael Esparza. You can get him on X. You
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: can get him on his channels. Check him out. Hey, Esparza,
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: appreciate you, brother. We'll talk to you tomorrow.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: Take it easy. Have a good one. Thanks.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: Raphael Esparza off. We're going to get Rob Brown in here.
• 25:55
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• 26:04
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• 26:08
  Speaker 1: up late with us tonight. Rob, thank you and welcome
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: to the patio Periscope.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: I love it, man. We actually taken off a couple
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: of weeks and we're launching our new website and everything Monday.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: So I love it, man. I don't care morning, midday, night.
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: If I'm on with JW, Jake Wimberly, it is a blast.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: And just got in from mountain biking. You got to
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: take advantage of the cool time of the day. I
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: think it's only 93 up here in Memphis. It's just,
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: I mean, but you know what? You can feel footballs
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: in the air. It's going to start getting cooler, at
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: least in our heads.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: No, you're right. And look, hey, we want to make
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: sure when you get that new website launched, we get
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: that out for you.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: Check out, are y'all on this week?
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: No, we're not taking off this week. My wife, we
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: haven't taken off in, I don't know, five years.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: And so we're launching the new website. It's going to
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: be sidelines.live, and we'll have links to your stuff and
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: everything on there. It's a Really, really going to be proactive.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: And the bottom line is we want people to go there,
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: follow us, and follow our guests because you're a regular
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: on the show and we can't do it without you.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: It ain't about me. It's about all of us.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: Likewise.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: Well, let's talk a little SEC football. You know, we
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: got week zero coming up next week. Well, first off,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: let me ask you this. We were talking about the deal,
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: and I'm sure you saw it today. A Louisiana judge
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: dropped the hammer and basically gave a TRO, a temporary
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: restraining order, where some of these guys can come back
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: to college. Now think about this. They're in NFL camps
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: right now. And you got three from Ole Miss, one
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: from LSU. You got several out there. Um, and if
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: you haven't seen that, let me pull that back up
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: guys real quick.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: Um, let me.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: Pull this up on X just so you can see it. Um,
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: and let me share this just real quick. Sorry about that. Um,
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: right here. And you can see this on X. Um,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: You know, former LSU edge rusher Jack Pyburn and current
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers defensive end filed a lawsuit today against
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: the NCAA seeking a preliminary injunction that would give him
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: the option to return to college, and there's several guys
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: on this list. Rob, this is, I don't know what
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: we're doing now here, less than two weeks away from
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: week one.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: Well, Pyburn was the transfer from Florida who came to LSU.
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: This is insanity, but it's not unbelievable because I believe
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: anything can happen now. Nobody's in charge, and Like my kids,
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: your kids probably tell you the same thing. It's the
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: adults that are allowing this stuff to happen. And allowing guys,
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: once you are gone from college, you can't come back.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: Charles Bediako case at Alabama was a perfect example of that.
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: He came back and he was pushed back out. They
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: got to stop this stuff. Just like Jaden Daniels' ridiculous
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: claim that his people around him that LSU can't use
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: that number five jersey. You've got to stop it. And
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: what the NCAA needs are antitrust laws. They've got to
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: have them.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: No, I agree. All right, let's step into the state
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: of Mississippi. I want to get your thoughts on, and
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: we've talked about it, but it's just now we're right here.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: Like I said, you can smell it now. Even though
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: it's hot in the south, football's here. Ole Miss, Trinidad
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: Chambliss named earlier this week to the athletic as the
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: number one quarterback in the All-American team. He's now got
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: two or three or four of those. Kiwan Lacey, also
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: first-team All-American, another notch in the belt for him. Boy,
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: it looks like, you know, in talking to Michael Katz
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: today on my show on ESPN Radio, who covers Ole
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: Miss for the Northeast Mississippi Daily Journal, he says, hey,
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: they're saying this defense may be as good as the
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: 24 defense. That's a big statement. Are we understaffed?
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: Ole Miss? I think they are. We've talked about this
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: for months. My top five, I've got Georgia and Ole
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: Miss playing in the SEC championship game, Mercedes-Benz Stadium. Texas
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: A & M and Oklahoma are my other three top
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: five teams. But people, there's just this myth out there
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: that Pete Golding wasn't a good coach. You cannot survive
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: on Nick Saban's staff for five years as a defensive
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: coordinator unless you're an elite coach. I don't know why people,
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: they have narratives. They want to take this guy out.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: We had a guy on our show a couple of
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: weeks ago who called Pete Golding a poor man's Dabo Sweeney.
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: You know, say what you want about Dabo. He's, what,
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: 137 and 30 since 2014. They've had a few rough years.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: They just signed more guys, by the way, in the
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: portal at Clemson, nine guys. than they did the previous
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: five years combined. But back to Trinidad Chambliss and Ole Miss,
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: I got them playing for the championship. We had Greg McElroy, sidelines.live,
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: my show, as a sponsor, one of them, of the
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: touchdown club in Memphis. Last Monday, I sponsored Greg McElroy
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: to come up here, and we were talking. Up on stage,
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: Harold Grater does a great Q & A format, and
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: Tony Barnhart, by the way, is coming in Monday. Shameless plug.
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: But support your quarterback and your touchdown clubs, and by God,
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: My wife, actually, when I was telling her I was
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: going to be on your show, she loves you because
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: what you do for the high school in Middle Mississippi.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: I absolutely love it. But you go back, McElroy said,
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: there are people questioning Byron Brown at Auburn coming from
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: South Florida. Will that carry over to the SEC? He said,
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: let me ask you all something. Diego Pavia came from
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: that football powerhouse, New Mexico State. How did it work
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: out for him and Vandy? Trinidad Chambliss, now he came
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: from Division II Ferris State. He was an afterthought, kind
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: of like buying a second insurance policy. How'd that work out?
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: He's the best quarterback in the SEC, along with Gunnar Stockton. So, yeah,
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: they're underselling Ole Miss. There's a narrative that doesn't allow
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: Ole Miss to fit in. Remember George Carlin's famous rant
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: about it's a club and we're not in it? That's
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: how you feel if you're Ole Miss. And I'm a Memphian.
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: You know, I'm an Auburn grad, but I love Ole Miss.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: I got so many Ole Miss and Mississippi State friends.
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: It's insane. They are going to be there. And the defense,
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: Hunter Rain Perkins is another one. They've got a lot
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: of really good players. And Golding, if he can still
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: keep his hand in there, is going to be a
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: hell of a coach.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: Let's pivot over to Starkville. We've talked to Kamario Taylor
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: with you before. We've talked to Jeff Levy. If we
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: got the time machine– Me and you got in the DeLorean,
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: and we fast-forwarded to August 19, 2020.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: Chuck Oliver.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: There you go. There you go.
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  Speaker 3: I love it.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love Chuck, too. And, by the way, tell
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: Tony hello for me when you see him next week.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: I will.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: I love Tony Barnhart. Tony's great. He's been on for
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: a long time. August 19, 2027. Are we talking Jeff
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: Levy at Mississippi State?
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: Well, they got to learn how to win. They lost
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: all their close games last year, and now you're going
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: to have Kamario Taylor– You know, his performance in the
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: Egg Bowl when he had 173 yards rushing was exceptional.
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: But they've got Zach Arnett. You know, he's humbled himself.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: He's back coaching the defense. They just got to learn
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: how to win. And I believe that, I mean, they're
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: 1-15 in his first two years there. But you look
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: at the games last year, Tennessee, the Texas, the Florida losses.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: I got to believe that they're going to figure out
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: how to win those. And I know I'm biased. I
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: do like Jeff Levy a lot, and I like Mississippi State.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: I've been to 37 games down there over the years.
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: Love that place. You know, Dan Mullen won there. His
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: nine years are pretty good. But if they don't win,
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: if they get off to a slow start looking at
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: their schedule, Mississippi State, look, you know, ULM at Minnesota,
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: if they win at Minnesota, then they can win at
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: South Carolina. They've got to win at least three in September,
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: or I don't see him coming back.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: No, totally agree. I've said that Minnesota week two game
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: is the season for them. I mean, it really is
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: in the Big Ten. All right, Alabama, first time AP
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: comes out this week. I know you've had a chance
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: to chalk through and look at it. Lowest ranking in
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: the AP in probably 17 years. I can't remember the
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: exact number. Betting odds, talking with Robbie Esparza, who was
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: just on Vegas Insider, lowest odds for Alabama in probably
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: 17 years, 15 years. But are we undervaluing Alabama?
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: All right, last time Alabama came into the season ranked
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: this low was 2008, okay? We know what they did.
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: They went on the road, got that win over Clemson
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: at the beginning of the season, I think. So Alabama
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: last year with the worst running game since 1956. Ears
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: Whitworth was the coach. He should have been given a
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: lifetime contract, but he wasn't, and they brought in Coach Bryant.
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: It was a different story from there on out. I
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: think that They couldn't run the ball a lick last year, okay?
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: They still won 11 games. But their problem is not
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: just on the offensive line. Freddie Roach is not a
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: great defensive line coach. I've got Alabama, unless the offensive
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: line is way better, and I don't see it, I
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: got them winning seven or eight games, and I'm not anti-Alabama.
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: My oldest daughter graduated from Alabama. She's still a good person.
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: I'm just telling you, they can't– you know, Ryan Grubb
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: loses his job at Seattle because they couldn't run the ball.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: Comes to Alabama, his first year there, they have the
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: worst running game since 1956. Now, if a dog will bite,
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: he'll do it when he's a pup. I don't– you know, E.J. Crowell,
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: they're counting on a true freshman. The last time a
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: true freshman– Led the team in rushing was 1985 when
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: Gene Jelks came there out of Emma Sansom High School
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: in Gadsden, Alabama, 576 yards and seven touchdowns. They also
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: had Bobby Humphrey in that backfield too. But I think Alabama,
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: you know, revenge doesn't win you any games either. They
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: should beat Florida State. But you're bringing in a new quarterback,
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: a true freshman. I think that Keetland Russell is going
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: to get it. So, no, I think they're probably overrated
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: right now based on they can't run the ball.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: Business with Rob Brown with Sidelines. Of course, he's off
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: this week. I'll have his website next week. And, of course,
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: his show is fantastic. Make sure to give a follow
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: on X and check him out on YouTube as well.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: Subscribe to their show. They're on in the mornings, by
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: the way, 8 to 9. Great SEC show, great college
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: football show. All right, so we've talked Oklahoma before. We've
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: talked Auburn. Who are we underselling? I mean, like if
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: you were picking somebody where we're talking in November, second
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: week in November, we're getting into the third or fourth
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: week of the, college football playoff poll, or actually it
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: would be like the second now because they're moving this
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: thing back. Who could we be talking about?
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: It's an even year. South Carolina under Shane Beamer, 8-4
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: in 22, 9 wins in 24. I do think Lenora Sellers,
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: he hasn't been completely healthy in a while. They've got
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: a chance to be better. They could surprise me. Also, Florida, Auburn,
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: Auburn– has forgotten how to win. You had the worst
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: coach in Auburn history, Brian Harsin, followed by the worst
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: coach in Auburn history, Hugh Freeze, back to back. That's
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: hard to overcome. But they forgot how to win. I
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: love John Summerall. Portability of success. He won at Troy,
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: played for the championship both years there, won both years
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: at Tulane, played for the conference championship. I like him.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: And I think we're underselling Tennessee. Jim Knowles coming in
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: at– Can't install a defense that fast, but he will
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: make their defense markedly better than they were last year.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: But they were number four or five in the country
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: in total offense last year. Rodney Garn is still coaching
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: that defensive line. So you know they'll have players there.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: And arguably top two, three offensive line in the SEC,
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: which would put them top seven or eight in the country.
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: And Deshaun Bishop in the backfield. But again, quarterback. But
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: one thing Josh Heupel can do is he can find
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: you a quarterback. So Those are some teams. And I
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: think Missouri might surprise people struggling because like Ole Miss
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: the last four years, they had the easier schedule. That's
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: going to flip now. They did win 29 games. But Missouri,
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: unlike Ole Miss, which beat a lot of signature teams,
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: Missouri hadn't beat a good team the last three years,
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: even though they won 29 games.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: Can Texas A & M make that next step? Boy,
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: they've been closed the last two years.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think– and talking to Pete Cordelli and Ellis
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: Johnson and a lot of smart coaches we have on
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: the show, I like Mike Elko. I think he's a
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: really smart coach. I think when he started working first
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: at A & M in 2018, I think I heard
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: a stat. They've had more defensive linemen from A &
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: M go to the NFL since 2018 than any SEC school.
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: Oddly enough, Alabama the last few years hadn't had any.
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: You know, they had them regularly– going every year, even
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: guys that only started nine or ten games, like Quentin Williams,
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: who went number three, yet were part of a great system.
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: You watch Ole Miss. You think Pete Golding didn't learn
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: anything in the five years he was there? You're crazy
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: with Nick Saban. And, Nick, again, you don't survive five
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: years with that guy if you're not good.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: No, you're right. Absolutely right. Vanderbilt, they take a step
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: back this year.
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: Well, Jared Curtis, he's got to be the highest rated
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: recruit in that school's history at a Nashville Christian. He
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: was committed to Georgia for 18 months. Because Beck is there,
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: Jerry Kill's there, Clark Lee, he's got those guys. One
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: thing he said in 24 in Dallas before the season,
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: this was the first year of Diego Pavi, He said,
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: you know, I actually rode on the elevator with him
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: and his wife, and he was sweating just like you
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: and I are right now. It is so hot. I'm
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: in a 7,000-square-foot house, and it is so hot. And,
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like I'm in a jungle. But
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: he said something that most people didn't even pay attention to.
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: But he said, you know, for the first time since
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: I've been here at Vanderbilt, we have every guy on
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: this football team in this building signed up for our vision,
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: our manifestation of Vanderbilt football. And as Chuck Oliver would say,
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: that's not nothing. It's a big deal. So you brought
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: that culture of Jerry Kill. You know, Jerry Kill is
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: a coach at Minnesota, New Mexico State, everywhere. He's won
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: 176 games. And he's been at some places it's not
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: easy to win. I think Vanderbilt's got a culture now.
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: I think at a minimum they win six or seven. So, yeah,
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: that's a step back from ten. But after the 23 season,
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: Clark Lee told us at the Touchdown Club last year,
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: I told the athletic director, Candice Lee, if you're not
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: going to fund it, we just drop the program because
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: we can't compete on this level.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: Rob, before we let you go, and I appreciate you
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: joining us tonight, let me ask you a quick question
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: about high school football. Just at a broad spectrum in
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: the state of Tennessee. I know you're right there in
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: the Memphis area. we know there's some really good high
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: school football right there. Talk about how that might compare
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: in that state to Mississippi. You know how big it
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: is down here as we get ready to kick it
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: off kind of week zero this week with the private
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: schools next week, we'll have our week one with everybody playing,
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: but just that excitement and what it's like in the
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: state of Tennessee.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: I think in West Tennessee, you know, Memphis, my high school,
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: Christian brothers high school, the largest all boys school in
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: the state hadn't won a state championship in almost 50 years.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: They played for a bunch of them. MUS on the
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: other hand, a really good program. They dropped spring practice
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: in 2001, and since then they've won four state titles
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: and been runner-up four times in the spring. They just
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: make the football players play lacrosse or do track and
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: field or do both. Other than that, you've got to
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: look at the mid-state, man. It's ridiculous. The Nashville teams, Ensworth, NBA,
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: Father Ryan, outstanding. And then it's another level. Macaulay and
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: Baylor and Chattanooga, they're bringing in guys. NBC, my friend,
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: no birth certificate. I honestly don't think, I know friends
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: of mine whose kids play them and they're going, you
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: remember the movie Fast Times at Ridgemont High when Jefferson,
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: the big football stud, the guy saw him one night
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: out and he goes, hey, I didn't know he went
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: to school here. I thought he just flew in on
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: the weekends for the games. That's what you got in Tennessee.
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: You look at Mississippi, high school football in that state,
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: per capita, they put more players in the NFL than
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: any state in America. because it does matter. When I
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: drive down to Orange Beach on 45, I call it
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: the land that time forgot. It's the old way to Destin.
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: Every one of those towns, Scuba, you know, you go
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: through Macon, you go through all these places like, you know, Waynesboro.
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: It's so big in the Delta, in the Mid-State. Then
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: you got places like Moss Point. Mississippi's 2 million, well,
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: probably 4.5 million fewer people, but The all-star team from Mississippi,
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: I hate to say it, would curb stomp the all-star
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: team from Tennessee. They're just better athletes, and I think
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: there's so many more small towns in Mississippi with paper mills,
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: and you put those two together, that's a one plus
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: one equals three. I love high school football, and I
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: love being on your show. You make me just love
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: football even more, and all sports, by the way.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. Rob, before we let you go and let you
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: take a break for the night and get ready to
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: do another one tomorrow, tell everybody about your new website,
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: where they can find you. We want them to follow
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: it and check you guys out for football.
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we do it year-round. It hasn't taken off in
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: a while, but it's sidelines, S-I-D-E-L-I-N-E-S dot live. I've had
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: that name since 87, so it's like 41 years or something,
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: but that's my domain that I own. We are heavy
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: on the SEC, but I was thinking about this. There's
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: a lot of compelling stories in Hattiesburg, Mississippi, Troy, Alabama.
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: You know, you've got stories all over at USA and Mobile, Tulane,
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: in addition to the SEC, and Memphis and Arkansas State. So, yeah,
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: I like to say this. We cover college football, basketball,
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: and baseball in the south like kudzu and cotton. We
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: love our audience, and we focus really on three things,
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: the history, the traditions, and the heroes. We stay out
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: of politics. We stay in production, and we absolutely love
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: our audience. I don't care what team you're a fan of.
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: You're all welcome here. And, by the way, you're watching
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: Jake right now. That's show three to six in the afternoon.
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: Put the app on your phone. You can watch ESPN
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: if you want to, but I would listen to Jake.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: Rob, you're a gentleman and a scholar. Look, I hope
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: you have a great Wednesday night, and we will do
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: it again soon, sir.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: Thank you so much. You do as well. We'll see
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: you next week on the show.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: You got it.
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: See you then.
• 44:36
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• 44:38
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• 45:05
  Speaker 1: We're going to sign off for tonight. I hope you
• 45:06
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• 45:08
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