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- 0:00S1: Broadcasting from Chicago, across North America and beyond. It's Carl
- 0:06S1: and crew. Come as you are an experienced guide, overcome
- 0:10S1: what seems impossible and live as you never imagined delivering
- 0:16S1: the truth daily.
- 0:17S2: If it were possible to have every worldly gain available
- 0:21S2: and you're forfeiting your soul, there's no amount of gain
- 0:25S2: that would make it worth it.
- 0:26S3: Our own way never ever works. Because it's apart from
- 0:29S3: the life source, which is God.
- 0:32S4: For me, growing up, love was always conditional and can
- 0:36S4: be taken from you. Christ's love can't. And he went
- 0:39S4: to the cross with my mind and my heart that night.
- 0:44S1: Now, from the call of Hope Studios, this is Carl
- 0:48S1: and crew. Lois. Lois. Amazing woman of God, you amazing
- 0:57S1: woman of God. my mom and grandma of Timothy. Pretty
- 1:03S1: cool story.
- 1:04S2: Yeah.
- 1:05S1: I mean, now here's what we got to get. Second Timothy,
- 1:08S1: let me break this down for you here. I thank God,
- 1:12S1: whom I serve, as did my ancestors, which is an
- 1:16S1: interesting statement from Paul, right? Because he's got some ancestors
- 1:21S1: that were anything but God fearing people. But he he
- 1:24S1: looks back with a clear conscience, as I remember you
- 1:28S1: constantly in my prayers, Timothy, night and day. Isn't that interesting?
- 1:34S1: He's praying night and day.
- 1:35S2: Yeah. It's I mean, how encouraging to hear somebody tell
- 1:39S2: you that they've been praying for you night and day.
- 1:42S1: Especially when it's your mentor.
- 1:43S2: Yeah.
- 1:44S1: As I remember your tears. I long to see you.
- 1:47S1: That I may be filled. Okay. So Timothy cried to
- 1:51S1: real men cry. Don't let anyone tell you different. Let
- 1:54S1: him flow, gents. Real men cry. I am reminded of
- 1:59S1: your sincere faith. So notice not just faith, but sincere faith, right?
- 2:07S1: There's something different here. A faith that dwelt first in
- 2:11S1: your grandmother Lois and your mother Eunice, and now, I
- 2:16S1: am sure, dwells in you as well. Wow. Legacy matters.
- 2:25S1: It doesn't ensure anything. I mean, we've been hitting epic stories.
- 2:31S1: It's called a come and see series at 180 Chicago
- 2:33S1: or two campuses here in Chicago where I'm a pastor.
- 2:36S1: And I'm telling you, man, the amount of kings who
- 2:41S1: were righteous, that handed the baton to their sons and
- 2:44S1: their sons just absolutely swallowed their gum spiritually. It's just crazy.
- 2:50S1: So it doesn't ensure anything, but it sure can help.
- 2:54S1: And here we've got a classic example where Lois and
- 2:57S1: Eunice were rock stars in faith. Now, were they rock stars?
- 3:02S1: The only claim that they would take to this thing
- 3:04S1: is that they clung to Jesus, right? I mean, that's
- 3:08S1: all they would claim.
- 3:09S2: That they had a faith that was evident, the faith
- 3:12S2: that first dwelt first in your grandmother Lois, and your mother, Eunice.
- 3:16S2: So they were clearly doing something that it made evident
- 3:19S2: how much they trusted the Lord.
- 3:21S1: Yeah. And so there's a passing on, and he must
- 3:24S1: have seen that and could have God used that to
- 3:28S1: compel him to surrender all to Jesus, undoubtedly. But ultimately,
- 3:33S1: the Spirit of God must work there. But I gotta
- 3:35S1: tell you, we're in this week called Founder's Week. And
- 3:40S1: the root word of that is foundation. Founders get things grounded.
- 3:46S1: And so we're going to open up phone lines here.
- 3:48S1: We got a lot to talk about in this half hour,
- 3:50S1: but we're going to open up phone lines. And when
- 3:52S1: you're ready, give us a call. Who laid the foundation
- 3:55S1: of faith in your life? And what did they do
- 3:57S1: that you'll never forget? I want you to think about
- 4:01S1: that for a second. Who laid that foundation of faith
- 4:06S1: in your life? And what did they do that you'll
- 4:09S1: never forget? And I'm not talking about faith. I'm talking
- 4:13S1: about a sincere faith. Let's just stay right in this text. Right, Allie?
- 4:16S2: Yeah. I love this question because, because I oftentimes we,
- 4:21S2: we know that you are not born a Christian. We
- 4:25S2: make that distinction all the time that being born and
- 4:28S2: raised into a Christian family does not make you a
- 4:31S2: Christian at all. At all. Full stop. Yeah, I think
- 4:35S2: it's cool, though, that being raised with the foundation of
- 4:39S2: faith in a home where you hear about the things
- 4:43S2: of God, where you see it lived out, where you
- 4:46S2: have a model to follow, whether it's a parent or
- 4:49S2: a grandparent, an aunt or an uncle, Uncle. Someone who
- 4:51S2: went before you. Who got it right? Yeah. And you
- 4:55S2: were able to look at their life and model and emulate.
- 4:59S2: That's what we're looking for. Who laid the foundation of
- 5:01S2: faith in your life? And what did they do that
- 5:04S2: you'll never forget? 805. Five. 578, 98. We're celebrating legacy
- 5:10S2: of Faith. 805. 5578, 98.
- 5:14S1: Yeah. Light up those phone lines. Boom. Crew. This is
- 5:16S1: your show. 805 557898. Give us a call right now.
- 5:21S1: Let's just go for it this half hour. 805 557898.
- 5:27S1: Who laid the foundation of faith in your life? And
- 5:30S1: what did they do that you'll never forget? You will
- 5:33S1: never forget it.
- 5:35S5: Walking closer to Jesus every day. You're listening to Carl
- 5:39S5: and crew.
- 5:40S1: So we got a question for you. If you think
- 5:42S1: back about the foundation of your faith, that absolute surrender
- 5:48S1: to Jesus Christ. The question is. Who was that person
- 5:55S1: who laid that foundation and what did they do that
- 5:58S1: you will never, ever forget? Never forget? Give us a
- 6:03S1: call 805 557898 805 557898. Emmett in Illinois, what do
- 6:12S1: you say, Emmett?
- 6:13S6: Hey, Carl. Good morning. Yes. Um, what what began my
- 6:18S6: foundation was we were having a Zoom call, Bible study,
- 6:23S6: men's Bible study with four of us. And it was
- 6:27S6: with my best friend and his son and a minister
- 6:30S6: in Boston. And, um, his son, which I've known since
- 6:35S6: a baby, asked me, um, if I was ready to
- 6:39S6: accept Jesus. And I said, yes, I am. And we
- 6:43S6: went on and it was just wonderful. And then I
- 6:49S6: mentioned that I want to get a large print Bible.
- 6:52S6: And toward the end of the study he said, Uncle Emmett,
- 6:56S6: your Bible will be delivered tomorrow morning.
- 6:58S1: Oh.
- 6:59S6: And sure. And sure enough, it was. And I use
- 7:02S6: it to this day. And I go to High Point
- 7:05S6: in North Aurora.
- 7:06S1: Yeah.
- 7:06S6: And, uh, you were at our Naperville campus.
- 7:11S1: Um, doing a men's.
- 7:12S6: Promoting Killing Sin. Yeah. And, uh, I love it.
- 7:17S1: Bro. I love you.
- 7:19S6: Three and a half years in.
- 7:20S1: Three and a half years following Jesus. How old are you, Emmett?
- 7:25S6: I'm 68.
- 7:26S1: Bro. You are living life now. Oh, wow. You are
- 7:28S1: living life now. Emmett.
- 7:30S2: Emmett. How old is your son's best friend? Emmett. I'm
- 7:33S2: curious how your son's best friend. You've known him since
- 7:35S2: he was little. How old is he now?
- 7:37S6: He just turned 40.
- 7:39S1: Wow.
- 7:40S6: And he is so plugged in. Oh my goodness.
- 7:43S1: Yeah, he's plugged in. All right. Yeah.
- 7:47S6: My best friend.
- 7:48S1: Yeah.
- 7:49S6: Is currently in Costa Rica ministering.
- 7:52S1: Oh.
- 7:53S6: And he'll be back in a few days.
- 7:55S1: Dude, you're in the richest days of your life right now.
- 7:58S6: I am.
- 7:59S1: Yeah.
- 8:00S6: And he continues to provide so many blessings. I. It's just,
- 8:06S6: I called yesterday, and I told you about my job.
- 8:09S6: And that one of the residents came and, um, attended
- 8:12S6: our church. And now she's become a member.
- 8:15S2: Yeah, I remember that.
- 8:16S1: Yeah.
- 8:17S6: Yeah. She filled out a connect card and, uh, she
- 8:21S6: went to a women's. She went to a women's, uh, uh,
- 8:26S6: study yesterday and loved it. And.
- 8:29S1: Yeah. You're you're in the thick of it right now.
- 8:31S1: You know what? You're in the swift water right now
- 8:33S1: with God. There's no doubt about it. That is beautiful. Karlis.
- 8:37S1: First time caller from Miami, Florida. What? What do you say?
- 8:42S7: Well, it was my grandmother, um, that laid the foundation
- 8:47S7: for me. I saw her pray every day of her life,
- 8:52S7: and she lived to be 103, uh, three times a day,
- 8:58S7: every day, morning, noon and night before she went to bed. Uh,
- 9:04S7: if she'd be out somewhere during the noonday hour, she
- 9:09S7: if she was walking down the street, she'd stop and
- 9:13S7: pray or pray while she was walking. She never failed.
- 9:18S1: It's beautiful. Carla, thank you so much for testifying. These
- 9:22S1: foundations are radical, aren't they? Ali.
- 9:25S2: That's such an inspiration to hear these stories. Uh, Vera.
- 9:29S2: First time caller from Valrico, Florida. Tell us who laid
- 9:32S2: the foundation of faith in your life. What did they do?
- 9:36S8: My Aunt Alice followed God's call to the mission field
- 9:39S8: in the Philippines when I was four years old. I
- 9:41S8: saw her the least of any of my other family
- 9:44S8: members growing up. She had the biggest impact. She's prayed
- 9:47S8: for me every day of her life. I'm 60 years old.
- 9:49S8: She still does. She wrote to me faithfully when she
- 9:53S8: would come home from the field. She worked with me
- 9:55S8: on deepening my prayer life, memorizing scripture. She laid challenges,
- 10:00S8: offered incentives to memorize God's Word, and she consistently. Her
- 10:07S8: message to me has. Keep your eyes fixed on Jesus.
- 10:10S8: Keep looking up. He's faithful. You can trust him no
- 10:14S8: matter what.
- 10:15S1: Oh, Vera. What's her name? First name?
- 10:18S8: Alice. Alice. Childs.
- 10:21S1: Alice Childs.
- 10:23S8: Mhm.
- 10:23S1: Wow. Vera. The relative. I saw the least and impacted
- 10:27S1: me the most.
- 10:29S8: Mhm.
- 10:30S1: That'll preach. Sister. Wow. Thank you for calling in today.
- 10:34S1: Thank you. Wow. Okay, let's go back to the phone lines. Allie.
- 10:37S1: Who do.
- 10:37S2: We have? We've got Melissa calling in from Brooklyn, New York. Melissa,
- 10:40S2: who laid the foundation of faith in your life, and
- 10:42S2: what did they do?
- 10:44S9: So actually, it was a youth group that I was
- 10:48S9: invited to. And a little backstory is I, I just
- 10:52S9: lost my mom. She had died when I was 13.
- 10:55S9: We grew up very poor. I was born in Missouri,
- 10:57S9: raised in Texas, and just really poor. When we went
- 11:01S9: up to Illinois to be with her parents, um, you know,
- 11:05S9: we were seen as the redneck hillbillies and hard to
- 11:10S9: kind of make friends. But after she had died, we
- 11:13S9: had gotten invited to this youth group. And man, I
- 11:16S9: tell you, when the Bible talks about loving one another,
- 11:20S9: they were a great example of just bringing me in. And, um.
- 11:26S9: I'm sorry.
- 11:27S10: It's okay.
- 11:27S1: No, it's all right.
- 11:30S11: But it was such an impact.
- 11:32S9: That it took me so a long time to to
- 11:35S9: to be not so hateful to God. I hated him.
- 11:41S9: After she died, and. But when they. When I got
- 11:44S9: into this youth group, I wanted to be there because
- 11:46S9: I wanted to be around this love that they showed me. And, um, now, now,
- 11:52S9: 30 something years later, I'm a pastor's wife here in Brooklyn,
- 11:55S9: New York. Um, eight kids of my own, nine kids
- 11:59S9: of my own. And, um, yeah, and I just, that
- 12:02S9: has been the impact in my life that overflows into others.
- 12:06S9: I tell my own kids, you know, we have to
- 12:09S9: love one another. The Bible says love one another. This
- 12:11S9: is what's going to distinguish us between the US and
- 12:14S9: the world.
- 12:14S10: So that's so that's.
- 12:17S1: That.
- 12:17S10: Is powerful.
- 12:19S2: Wow.
- 12:21S1: A redneck kid who's discarded goes to a youth group,
- 12:24S1: gets transformed by the grace and power of God through
- 12:28S1: their love, gets married to a flamethrowing preacher, and now
- 12:32S1: they're in New York. Brooklyn. Good grief.
- 12:36S10: Yes.
- 12:37S9: Doing a lot of evangelizing here in this mission field.
- 12:40S10: And it's a beautiful thing.
- 12:42S1: Way to go, sister. Thanks for calling in today. This
- 12:45S1: is peel paint time. My goodness. Rebecca. First time caller
- 12:50S1: in New Tampa, Florida. What do you say?
- 12:54S12: So my person was Samantha. We were in our 20s
- 12:58S12: working in the corporate world, and I was living a
- 13:02S12: very wretched life. I was completely ignorant to the Bible, Jesus,
- 13:06S12: all of it. And she never judged me. I always
- 13:09S12: felt love from her. She shared with me a track
- 13:14S12: and I held on to that, especially in my darkest times.
- 13:17S12: I would just go back to that. And when I
- 13:20S12: finally came to the end of myself, I don't know, five,
- 13:23S12: seven years later, it took a long time. Um, that
- 13:28S12: was what I was looking into when the Lord called
- 13:32S12: me and I finally came to the end of myself
- 13:35S12: and gave my life over to the Lord. And I
- 13:37S12: just want to say to those that are praying, especially
- 13:40S12: in the corporate world, you see the way people are living.
- 13:42S12: Don't give up on them. Don't judge them. Just love
- 13:45S12: them and pray for those opportunities to minister to them.
- 13:49S10: This is so epic.
- 13:51S1: What a word. Thank you so much, Rebecca. Oh thank you.
- 13:55S1: Thank you. What an amazing morning we're having here.
- 13:58S2: You know, I'm so moved by the simplicity of the
- 14:02S2: demonstrations of faith.
- 14:04S10: That love.
- 14:04S2: Love.
- 14:05S1: Non-judgmental.
- 14:07S2: That you saw someone pray. You saw someone read their
- 14:10S2: Bible faithfully that was poured into you, that these are
- 14:14S2: really simple, faithful things done day after day in a
- 14:19S2: life with Jesus that has changed the trajectory of a generation.
- 14:24S2: That's what I'm struck by, is that it's not this
- 14:27S2: the big stuff that we think?
- 14:31S1: No, it almost never is, right? I mean, that's the
- 14:34S1: proverbial story of life is that it's the little stuff.
- 14:38S2: I mean, it's it's those little expressions of faith over
- 14:42S2: time that proved out.
- 14:44S1: You know, here's the interesting thing. I mean, the broad
- 14:49S1: path is filled with people that are on you know,
- 14:53S1: there's been a lot of discussion about are people seeking.
- 14:56S1: And I would I would say this not everyone is
- 15:02S1: seeking God, but everyone is seeking something to fill, as
- 15:08S1: Pascal is. Want to say that God shaped void that
- 15:12S1: only God can fill. There's no question about it. So the, the,
- 15:17S1: the question is, what can we do that no one
- 15:21S1: on that broad path can do? And we've heard that
- 15:23S1: over and over this morning. Let your light so shine
- 15:27S1: before men and women that they will see your deeds
- 15:30S1: and give glory to your father in heaven. Now are
- 15:33S1: their God fearing people on that broad path that the
- 15:35S1: minute they hear about Jesus, they're like, yes, okay, I'm
- 15:39S1: turning around. Absolutely. And by the way, did you hear
- 15:42S1: a common thread here? All these people that have been
- 15:45S1: impacted by people have surrendered all they are to Jesus.
- 15:50S1: This isn't cultural Christianity. This is all in. And it
- 15:54S1: was brought on by extraordinary. How do you say this
- 16:00S1: extraordinarily simple fruit of the spirit love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, gentleness, faithfulness,
- 16:13S1: self control. Wow. This is. This is exhibit A for
- 16:22S1: why we do what we're doing here, right here to
- 16:26S1: tee up the ball for you guys to put on display.
- 16:29S1: How God works through every day life. I'm just gobsmacked
- 16:35S1: here this morning.
- 16:35S2: I am too. Truly. And it's. You think about what
- 16:39S2: opportunity that you have that I have because there's somebody
- 16:43S2: that we have the have influence. Oh, maybe children, maybe coworkers.
- 16:48S10: Yeah.
- 16:49S2: And could we be through our simple, faithful acts? The
- 16:53S2: next person, you know, maybe ten years from now, somebody's
- 16:57S2: going to be saying about what you did.
- 16:59S1: Yeah. And so where are you today? Let me just say,
- 17:03S1: these testimonies you've heard. May the Spirit of God may
- 17:06S1: be saying, wake up. Wake up to the reality of
- 17:11S1: the new birth miracle in your life. Maybe it's time
- 17:14S1: to recommit all that you are to Jesus and to
- 17:18S1: watch him work powerfully through you. It's worth it. People
- 17:21S1: are watching. Friend. Yeah, it's Carl and crew helping you
- 17:27S1: take your next step with Jesus. Or I should say
- 17:30S1: the boom crew's doing that.
- 17:32S5: Tune in whenever you like. Check out the Carl and
- 17:35S5: Crew podcast wherever you like to stream.
- 17:37S1: Well, as promised, we've got them in here. The man,
- 17:40S1: the myth, the legend. And I throw that around a
- 17:42S1: little to willy nilly because this is the man, the myth,
- 17:44S1: the legend. Doctor real doctor Rick Nelson. And I told
- 17:48S1: you this, doc, and I really mean this. We prayed
- 17:51S1: you in here, and I and I mean this seriously.
- 17:54S1: I do believe that you are the man to be
- 17:56S1: here at this time. 11th president of Moody Bible Institute,
- 17:59S1: by the way. And I'm overjoyed that this is your
- 18:03S1: first founder's week that you're going to be a plenary
- 18:05S1: speaker at. And I'm I'm thrilled. So we want to know,
- 18:10S1: can you give us the reveal on your big idea?
- 18:12S1: Alli was chomping at the bit to find out what
- 18:15S1: in the world you've really prepped here.
- 18:16S13: Yes. Well, you know, I'm always a little nervous to
- 18:19S13: give out too much information because I have no idea
- 18:21S13: what the other speakers are going to speak on. But
- 18:23S13: I will tell you this first of all, I am
- 18:25S13: just thrilled about our theme from generation to generation, The
- 18:29S13: Unstoppable Gospel. And I'm picking up on that theme right
- 18:32S13: from second Timothy. And I start right in chapter one,
- 18:36S13: right with Lois and Eunice and Timothy, as Paul is
- 18:40S13: reminding him of his incredible heritage, of the generation to
- 18:44S13: generation that's been passed down from his grandmother to his
- 18:47S13: mother to him. And then, of course, Paul goes on
- 18:50S13: in chapter two to encourage young Timothy to pass it
- 18:53S13: on to the next generation, and then to those faithful
- 18:56S13: men who will pass it on to the next generation.
- 18:58S13: So for generations, for links from Paul to Timothy to
- 19:02S13: faithful men to others. And that'll be the big idea.
- 19:05S10: Beautiful.
- 19:05S2: When you think about generation to generation and the legacy,
- 19:08S2: even here at Moody Bible Institute, I mean Founder's Week,
- 19:11S2: the oldest, longest running free Bible conference in the country.
- 19:15S2: What does it mean to you to, as the new president,
- 19:18S2: to be a part of this for the first time formally?
- 19:21S13: It's an incredible legacy and what an incredible heritage. You know,
- 19:24S13: I was thinking about this the other day from generation
- 19:26S13: to generation, that there are faithful men and women who
- 19:29S13: have been coming generation to generation, who have passed this
- 19:32S13: on to their children. Yet we will be singing the
- 19:34S13: same songs and hymns and truths. We will be sharing
- 19:38S13: the same gospel and the same word of God. So
- 19:41S13: from whatever generation someone has been here from ages past
- 19:44S13: to current, present, the same gospel, the same good news
- 19:47S13: of Jesus Christ, and the same Word of God.
- 19:50S1: You know, it's interesting that you mentioned that, and it
- 19:53S1: got me thinking. I did a little bit of a
- 19:54S1: deep dive for a message I was preaching recently, and
- 19:57S1: there's been a myth out there, an urban myth in
- 20:00S1: Christian circles. It's some of the hymns that we sing
- 20:02S1: come from pub songs. Now that is a myth. I
- 20:06S1: found that out. So I've even I've even shared that
- 20:09S1: in the past here a number of years ago. But
- 20:11S1: it is not a myth that the Wesley Brothers, Luther,
- 20:15S1: even Booth with Salvation Army. They took contemporary stuff in
- 20:21S1: their day. And so A Mighty Fortress is our God.
- 20:25S1: Classic hymns that we see as, boy, those are the
- 20:28S1: hymns those guys were writing that although they were generation
- 20:32S1: to generation, they were reaching the generation with songs, lyrics,
- 20:38S1: and even tunes that were relevant to that day. That's
- 20:41S1: an aha moment for a president, isn't it? Could you
- 20:44S1: comment on that?
- 20:45S13: Yeah. You know, I think you're absolutely right. You know,
- 20:47S13: the truths of scripture, the truths of our hymns that
- 20:50S13: we sing, they go from generation to generation. But oftentimes
- 20:54S13: the music that we sing has to be updated to
- 20:56S13: the times that we live in. And I love when
- 20:59S13: someone takes a wonderful old hymn and kind of modernizes it,
- 21:02S13: or encourages just our current generation of maybe how to
- 21:05S13: sing it, to refresh it, to just think about this generation.
- 21:08S13: And you're absolutely right. You know, the whole idea of
- 21:11S13: Luther was to put everything in the vernacular, to sing
- 21:13S13: in German. We don't sing in German today, although although
- 21:17S13: I think the tune is a German tune that we sing.
- 21:20S13: A Mighty Fortress is our God. And you know, those
- 21:22S13: are just great truths that we can come together and enjoy.
- 21:25S13: But we want to make everything relevant for today, right?
- 21:28S13: We want every, every person that comes to hear the gospel,
- 21:31S13: the good news of Jesus Christ, to hear it in
- 21:33S13: their contemporary language. And in fact, I'm going to do
- 21:36S13: something really special. Uh, Lord willing, on Friday to be
- 21:40S13: able to present a Bible to a student that's in
- 21:43S13: a different language and just being reminded that the gospel
- 21:46S13: is for every person, the gospel is for every language,
- 21:49S13: and the gospel is for every nation.
- 21:50S10: Beautiful.
- 21:51S2: You know, it's so exciting. A week like this, we
- 21:53S2: get to welcome so many people to our great campus.
- 21:57S2: And for many, it's a homecoming of sorts. There's going
- 21:59S2: to be a lot of alumni who come back for
- 22:01S2: a week like this, but many people who are maybe
- 22:03S2: first timers never come to Moody Bible Institute. What do
- 22:06S2: you want people to experience who are coming to this campus,
- 22:10S2: who maybe for the first time.
- 22:12S13: Experienced the Word of God? And I think that's the
- 22:14S13: beauty of our Founders Week. You know, we have an
- 22:16S13: incredible lineup. Priscilla Schreier, we have Tony Evans, we have
- 22:20S13: Crawford and Brian Lauritzen. We have we have Philip Miller,
- 22:23S13: who's the pastor right up the street here at Moody Church.
- 22:26S13: We have an incredible lineup with other guests who will
- 22:29S13: be here on Friday morning. Steve DeWitt, doctor DeWitt will
- 22:33S13: be here. A good friend of mine, our wonderful president
- 22:35S13: from past Doctor Stoll, will be back. But one of
- 22:38S13: the things I'm confident about, that every one of those
- 22:40S13: speakers will open the Word of God. They will speak
- 22:43S13: from God's Word, and they will speak truths that are
- 22:45S13: relevant for today. And they are timeless truths that everyone
- 22:48S13: can be encouraged by. And that's my hope that people
- 22:51S13: will leave encouraged because they encounter the Word of God,
- 22:54S13: the transformational gospel that is unstoppable. As my friend Carl says.
- 22:59S1: Yeah, it you know, Doctor Rick Nelson is our guest
- 23:02S1: right now. You know, the interesting thing is a lot
- 23:04S1: of people, I think, have mistakenly kind of undershot what
- 23:11S1: God can do through moments of immersion in God's Word.
- 23:16S1: And I look back to an event that I took
- 23:18S1: a bunch of men to promise keepers in a stadium
- 23:22S1: that's now no longer there, but it had a long tail.
- 23:25S1: I truly believe that something like Founder's Week, whether you're
- 23:29S1: live or digitally, and we're going to have a link
- 23:32S1: for you because no matter where you're in this world,
- 23:34S1: you can take part in every session. It seems to
- 23:38S1: me that now I'm going back a little bit. When
- 23:41S1: I was a kid, though, we had these intensives where
- 23:43S1: we would have conferences for a Friday night. Saturday it
- 23:47S1: would go into Sunday. There is something that can happen, doc,
- 23:52S1: when we get immersed in truth, is there not?
- 23:55S13: I think you're absolutely right. I think the spirit dwells
- 23:57S13: within us, and I think there is something that happens
- 23:59S13: intrinsically when we come together as the people of God
- 24:02S13: gathered together around His Word. And we really are, you know,
- 24:06S13: intentional about these few days together. It's a bit of
- 24:09S13: a camp meeting. It's a bit of a revival. It's
- 24:12S13: a bit of a Bible conference all packed together. We
- 24:15S13: want to sing to the Lord. We want to praise
- 24:16S13: his name. We want to open His Word, and we
- 24:18S13: want to immerse ourselves in the truths of God's Word.
- 24:21S13: And it is the power of the gospel that does
- 24:23S13: the transformation. And we just pray that the spirit will
- 24:26S13: be at work. Whether you are listening on the radio,
- 24:28S13: whether you are digitally connected to us through a link,
- 24:31S13: whether you are here live, every person can be impacted
- 24:35S13: by the Good News of Jesus Christ.
- 24:36S10: Amen.
- 24:37S2: We do have a link for you and get here
- 24:39S2: if you can. If not, please take advantage of the
- 24:41S2: live stream. Also radio for the evening sessions. Text founders
- 24:46S2: to 805 557898. Doctor Nelson is going to be the
- 24:50S2: Friday night speaker, but full lineup starting tonight, just text
- 24:54S2: founders to 805 five, five, 78, 98.
- 24:58S1: Okay, a couple quick questions for you so that we
- 25:00S1: can get to know you a little bit more. Are
- 25:02S1: you deep dish or thin crust?
- 25:04S13: Uh, it's probably thin crust.
- 25:05S1: Okay. I'm with you on that one. Don't you don't
- 25:07S1: you apologize? Um, are you truck or car?
- 25:11S13: Uh, SUV.
- 25:13S1: Okay. You're kind of in the tweener stage right there.
- 25:16S1: We'll go with that. And are you him or modern chorus.
- 25:20S13: Yes.
- 25:20S10: Ah, you know, I love to.
- 25:24S13: I love both, I love the great truths of the
- 25:27S13: hymns that we sing. Uh, you know, I'll quote him
- 25:29S13: sometimes I'll sing a hymn even as I'm as I'm
- 25:32S13: speaking or preaching. And I also just love what God
- 25:35S13: is doing through contemporary artists, even today who are writing
- 25:38S13: truths of God's Word. And there's so many great hymn
- 25:41S13: writers and, and contemporary worship leaders today that are bringing
- 25:46S13: incredible truths to the church. And I just appreciate all
- 25:49S13: of it. And it's just a good reminder. You know,
- 25:51S13: a mighty fortress is our God was new at some point. Uh,
- 25:55S13: as is, you know, a more recent contemporary song. The
- 25:58S13: truths come from God's Word. They are applicable to our lives.
- 26:03S13: I love hymns, love contemporary songs, love to worship. In fact,
- 26:06S13: we're encouraged to sing psalms, hymns and spiritual songs. So,
- 26:09S13: you know, Paul says, speak to one another, Psalms, hymns
- 26:11S13: and spiritual songs. So all the above. Yes, yes, yes.
- 26:15S2: I get to throw in a couple of my own. Right, Carl?
- 26:17S1: Yeah. I think Ali emceeing ought to just.
- 26:20S10: Burst into song. No, no no.
- 26:22S2: No, I didn't mean songs.
- 26:24S10: I meant questions. Oh, absolutely.
- 26:26S13: Bring em on.
- 26:27S2: Definitely not song. Morning or night person.
- 26:29S13: Oh, definitely a night person.
- 26:30S2: Night person. Okay. And then finally, the what verse or
- 26:33S2: verses are speaking to you most right now? I'm guessing
- 26:37S2: it might be where you're camped out for your session. Yeah,
- 26:39S2: maybe someplace else.
- 26:41S13: Well, right now I definitely have been hanging out there
- 26:43S13: and I love the generation to generation. Uh, the, the
- 26:47S13: psalm that reminds us to, to tell the good news
- 26:50S13: of the great things that God has done from generation
- 26:53S13: to generation. And I love that passage because it says
- 26:56S13: specifically to us. And I've been thinking about this, that we,
- 26:59S13: we tell the truths, we proclaim the truths of God's word,
- 27:02S13: of the things and the mighty works that he has
- 27:04S13: done to our children, to our grandchildren, and to the
- 27:08S13: children's children that we don't even know that we will
- 27:10S13: never meet. And thus the impact of that from generation
- 27:13S13: to generation. So that's what I've been thinking a lot about.
- 27:15S13: I love this theme. I'm encouraged by it. And I
- 27:18S13: just think it's just something that, you know, there's a
- 27:20S13: few stories that I'm going to share. I'm going to
- 27:21S13: hold on to them because they're really special stories I
- 27:23S13: want to share on Friday night. There's some personal stories
- 27:26S13: of how that was passed on to me and how
- 27:29S13: that is being passed on to the next generation.
- 27:31S1: We so look forward to it. Doctor Rick Nelson And again,
- 27:34S1: that link founders to 805 five, five, 78, 98. And
- 27:39S1: if you vote that Alli should as she's emceeing break
- 27:42S1: into song, you can do that as well. Text founders
- 27:45S1: to 805 5578, 98. You know, Ali, I'm telling you,
- 27:51S1: if you knew the Lord's return was like within 30 minutes,
- 27:53S1: would you pop one out there if you just knew
- 27:56S1: 30 minutes? I mean, it's just something fun to kick around.
- 27:59S10: I'll give.
- 28:00S2: It.
- 28:00S10: Some thought. Well, we know.
- 28:01S13: For we know for sure, Carl, the trumpet is going
- 28:03S13: to sound, and we're going to be gathered together in
- 28:05S13: the air, and we'll be singing gloriously for all eternity. Holy, holy,
- 28:10S13: holy is the Lord God Almighty, who was and is
- 28:12S13: and is to come. And the whole earth is filled
- 28:14S13: with his glory.
- 28:15S1: Oh my goodness, we could almost sing it right now.
- 28:18S1: Tech's founders to 805, five, five, 78, 98. You know
- 28:29S1: we are big on the grace of God here, guys.
- 28:32S1: Big on it. Titus 211 and 12. Grace of God
- 28:35S1: saves us and trains us to renounce ungodliness, worldly passions,
- 28:39S1: live self-controlled, godly lives in this present age. It's all
- 28:43S1: God's grace. It's all God's grace. Uh, when I think
- 28:47S1: of and we want to tackle this topic breakthrough. When
- 28:50S1: I think of breakthrough. Sorry, I got to go back
- 28:53S1: to my dog blaze. Got to get my Alaskan husky
- 28:56S1: wedged in here.
- 28:57S10: Okay.
- 28:57S1: You know, we took him down to this dog park,
- 29:00S1: and he had a bad experience.
- 29:02S10: Oh, no.
- 29:02S1: The first time we were down, the first time we
- 29:04S1: were down there, I went in there and there were
- 29:06S1: a couple of alpha males, and they saw this long
- 29:09S1: legged husky from Alaska, and they're like, we're going to
- 29:11S1: dominate this guy. And it was rough. I had to
- 29:14S1: get him up and out of there because they were
- 29:16S1: really hard on him. So ever since then, he's been
- 29:21S1: attentive when he gets in among these critters. Right. The
- 29:25S1: tail's just tucked right under his legs and he's got
- 29:27S1: hair on his back going up and he wants to
- 29:30S1: enjoy it. So I took him down here a couple
- 29:33S1: of days ago, and there are 22, count em, 22
- 29:36S1: dogs in this big old dog park. 22.
- 29:39S2: You actually counted them, huh?
- 29:41S10: Oh, yeah.
- 29:41S1: Because there were so many. I'm, like I told one guy.
- 29:44S1: Is this a record? He goes, it is for when
- 29:45S1: I'm out here. 22 of these things. And he was
- 29:50S1: super tentative and it was really awesome because he learned something.
- 29:55S1: I'm faster than every one of these suckers out here today. I'm.
- 30:02S1: And all of a sudden he realized, ah, if if
- 30:06S1: they start coming out, I'm free. And there was I
- 30:10S1: could see in my dog's brain and emotional breakthrough in
- 30:15S1: that moment. Now, metaphors are everywhere, aren't there?
- 30:19S10: Oh, yeah.
- 30:20S1: But there's some of us that walk through life with
- 30:23S1: our tail between our legs. Doctor Marcus Warner It's true,
- 30:28S1: isn't it, man? We walk through life with our tail
- 30:31S1: between our legs. And we've been made for so much more.
- 30:33S1: My man, pour out your heart.
- 30:35S14: Yeah, absolutely. Now, there's a reason. When writing breakthroughs. I
- 30:39S14: spent 40 years meeting with people who were in all
- 30:43S14: stages of bondage and all stages of baggage they're carrying
- 30:47S14: with them. And a lot of times you feel hopeless
- 30:49S14: and you feel like this is never going to change.
- 30:51S14: Nothing I, you know, do really matters. And we need
- 30:55S14: to lay out a path. Like, how does breakthrough work?
- 30:57S14: How do you experience this? And that's what we're trying
- 30:59S14: to do.
- 31:00S2: Doctor Marcus Warner with us in studio president of Deeper
- 31:03S2: Walk International. Equipping people on the front lines of ministry
- 31:06S2: with practical tools. Tools. We're featuring a book today, Breakthrough
- 31:10S2: Five Essential Strategies for Freedom, healing and Wholeness. Now, your
- 31:14S2: book takes the Bible and brain science combined with the
- 31:17S2: Holy Spirit and provides an integrative approach to really walking
- 31:22S2: in that freedom. First. Why is freedom so elusive? We
- 31:26S2: read the scriptures. We know what we're promised, the abundant life.
- 31:31S2: But why do so many people find that to be
- 31:33S2: so elusive?
- 31:34S14: Well, we know on the day that we get saved,
- 31:35S14: we are set free from sin, right? Yes. And yet.
- 31:39S14: And we are set free from the law. We're set
- 31:40S14: free from the flesh. We're set free from the world.
- 31:42S14: And we do that by dying to these things. And so, uh,
- 31:46S14: but now we have to learn how to reckon ourselves dead.
- 31:48S14: We have to learn. How do I walk in this? Therefore,
- 31:51S14: since I have died with Christ, how do I then live?
- 31:55S14: And that's what discipleship is all about. It's walking alongside people,
- 31:57S14: helping them learn how do I walk in this freedom?
- 32:00S14: So one of the reasons it's elusive is that there
- 32:03S14: are we in our book, lay out five engines that
- 32:06S14: drive our emotions. And a lot of times people are
- 32:09S14: just doing one thing and hoping that'll give them the breakthrough.
- 32:12S14: And they don't realize there's often a variety of things
- 32:15S14: involved in the breakthrough journey. Um, for example, in our
- 32:18S14: evangelical society, we tend to focus a lot on two
- 32:21S14: verses especially, and that is renew your mind and the
- 32:24S14: truth will set you free. And so we just read
- 32:26S14: more books and we get more content and we get
- 32:29S14: more information. And we think that if I just learned
- 32:32S14: the right thing and I get the right information, I
- 32:34S14: have the right insight, that'll give me breakthrough. But it
- 32:37S14: often takes a lot more than just knowledge to, to
- 32:40S14: get us there. And there's other verses in the Bible about,
- 32:43S14: you know, what create healing and confession brings healing and
- 32:48S14: the Holy Spirit brings healing. And there's a the spirit
- 32:52S14: realm out there where we're in battle against spiritual forces,
- 32:55S14: and that has to be reckoned in. And so what
- 32:57S14: I find is oftentimes when we're struggling with breakthrough, it's
- 33:00S14: because there are other areas that we need to be
- 33:03S14: focused on than just the one that we keep going
- 33:05S14: back to.
- 33:06S1: This is super fascinating. You just alluded to a couple
- 33:09S1: of things. One is Colossians three. So we are called
- 33:12S1: to set our minds on things above, not on things
- 33:14S1: on earth. Mind renewal is huge and all that and
- 33:17S1: the power of the Holy Spirit. John 14, John 16,
- 33:20S1: Romans eight. You said something that's super intriguing to me,
- 33:25S1: and it's that and we say this how often? It's
- 33:28S1: not about knowledge, it's about applied knowledge. Is there this gap?
- 33:33S1: Because Jesus describes two people, one that survived storms, one
- 33:36S1: that crumbles when the waves come. Is it about application
- 33:41S1: of that truth and how does that work, doc?
- 33:45S14: Yeah, absolutely. It's about the application of the truth, but
- 33:48S14: it's not quite as simple as it sounds. Because what
- 33:50S14: I find is there's, there's two concepts you have to
- 33:52S14: bring together one's choices and one's capacity. For example, if
- 33:56S14: I say, hey, I'm going to go run the marathon,
- 33:59S14: I don't have the capacity to do that. I can
- 34:01S14: make that choice, but it's not going to be pretty, right?
- 34:03S14: Because I don't have that capacity. Well, capacity is directly
- 34:07S14: related to our maturity, development, and maturity development isn't completely
- 34:11S14: in our hands. Some of that is what we grew
- 34:14S14: up with. Some of it is what we the skills
- 34:17S14: and habits we've developed throughout our lives. And I can
- 34:20S14: make the choice to start working on those things, but
- 34:22S14: I can't make the choice to simply have them right.
- 34:26S14: So if I've missed out on these skills, I've missed
- 34:28S14: out on these habits. I can make the choices to
- 34:31S14: start working on them. But that's different than saying, oh yeah,
- 34:33S14: I can just be better tomorrow if I just, you know,
- 34:36S14: put into practice what I learned today because it's not
- 34:39S14: quite that simple. And that's why.
- 34:41S2: So let's get some practical help here. Doctor Marcus Warner,
- 34:44S2: author of breakthrough. What are these essential strategies for freedom,
- 34:48S2: healing and wholeness. We'll find out. Coming up here on
- 34:50S2: Carl and Crew.
- 34:52S5: This is Carl and crew on Moody Radio.
- 34:56S2: Have you ever felt stuck? Stuck in your circumstances. Stuck
- 34:59S2: in a cycle. Thinking, man, this is never going to change.
- 35:02S2: Or I keep trying. I'm. I'm going to church. I'm
- 35:05S2: reading my Bible. I'm praying I'm going to small group.
- 35:07S2: And yet I still seem stuck. How do we get breakthrough?
- 35:10S2: That's the focus of a new book, Breakthrough Five Essential
- 35:13S2: Strategies for Freedom, Healing and Wholeness. The author, Doctor Marcus
- 35:17S2: Warner with us in studio right now. So let's talk
- 35:19S2: about some of these essential strategies that you lay out
- 35:23S2: in the book.
- 35:23S14: Yeah. So there's five. And they correspond to five engines
- 35:26S14: that drive our emotions. So the first is body and
- 35:29S14: then beliefs and then bonding. And then there's two spiritual engines,
- 35:33S14: the Holy Spirit and wicked spirits. And so the idea
- 35:35S14: is we need to be aware of our bodies because
- 35:37S14: when things are off physically, sometimes that's the key to
- 35:40S14: what's going on emotionally. We just need to do something
- 35:43S14: about our body. Second is our beliefs. And this is
- 35:45S14: the one that I was talking about before, like renewing
- 35:48S14: our mind. Thinking about true things. Filling our minds with truth.
- 35:52S14: Replacing lies. That's the beliefs engine. And then we have bonding.
- 35:56S14: And what we found in from brain science is that
- 35:59S14: my brain wants to bond in joy with other people,
- 36:03S14: but it can learn to bond in fear. And so
- 36:06S14: if my brain has learned to bond in fear with
- 36:08S14: other people, fear will permeate my whole life. And I
- 36:11S14: have to learn how to transform my fear bonding into
- 36:14S14: joy bonding. So that's an engine. It's a whole conversation, uh, that, uh,
- 36:19S14: but it's mostly about motivation and learning to motivate myself
- 36:22S14: and what I do with things that are joy based
- 36:24S14: rather than always fear motivating myself.
- 36:27S1: Yeah. So I'm thinking of someone listening right now because
- 36:31S1: there are family of origin issues or peer pressure issues,
- 36:36S1: you name it. There's a lot of there's trauma that
- 36:38S1: happens early on in life that can, uh, stifle us,
- 36:42S1: I guess is a word you talk in breakthrough about
- 36:46S1: building emotional resilience. And so my question is, what is
- 36:51S1: it that causes some people who come from horrific backgrounds
- 36:54S1: to get exit velocity from that versus someone that maybe
- 36:59S1: comes from a lesser thing? I'm not trying to diminish
- 37:01S1: this person. They feel like I haven't gone through that,
- 37:05S1: and yet they can't get exit velocity from that. There's
- 37:08S1: got to be something about the grace of God, the
- 37:12S1: power of the Holy Spirit to overcome these things. What
- 37:16S1: is that change agent right there, doc?
- 37:19S14: Yeah, I would say there are two key change agents.
- 37:22S14: One is healing and one is skill building. And so
- 37:26S14: we talk a lot about healing. And that is let's
- 37:29S14: go back to wounds. Let's find the lies that got
- 37:31S14: planted in those wounds. Let's uncover the vows that we've
- 37:34S14: made about the way we live that are keeping us stuck.
- 37:36S14: Because most of the time when people are stuck, that
- 37:38S14: there are wounds in their past that have led them
- 37:40S14: to believe things that are not true, and now they
- 37:43S14: have made vows about how they're going to live their
- 37:45S14: life that are self-protective. And now they're in in bondage.
- 37:49S14: They can't seem to break out of this. So they
- 37:50S14: need true. They need healing for those wounds. They need
- 37:54S14: replacements for those lies. And they need to identify and
- 37:58S14: break these vows and learn new skill set. The other
- 38:01S14: thing is, is skills. And that is a lot of
- 38:04S14: us grew up in families that weren't good with emotions
- 38:06S14: and weren't good with relationships. And so we didn't see
- 38:08S14: that modeled. And we never developed our own skill set
- 38:13S14: of how do you feel shame and recover? How do
- 38:17S14: you feel? Ain't somebody being angry with you and recover?
- 38:20S14: And we've never seen it modeled. We don't have a
- 38:23S14: sense in our head of what that looks like. So
- 38:24S14: we actually talk quite a bit about what's involved in
- 38:27S14: beginning to build those skills. And we give, uh, very
- 38:31S14: practical exercises on, on quieting, on growing my appreciation on
- 38:37S14: the kind of habits that you develop. And so I
- 38:40S14: think like I got a friend who used to work
- 38:43S14: here at Moody and had great, huge trauma in her background,
- 38:47S14: but is one of the most joyful people I know.
- 38:49S14: And but she worked really hard at the healing and
- 38:53S14: at growing her relational and emotional skills.
- 38:56S2: You know, we have become, as a culture, very, very
- 38:59S2: well versed in therapeutic language. So you have kids who
- 39:03S2: talk about who use words like triggers and trauma and
- 39:07S2: self-care and self-help and healing, and a lot of the
- 39:11S2: words that you used, how do we stay up on
- 39:13S2: this high ridge? Because I think some people recognizing that
- 39:17S2: some of this language has been used in ways that
- 39:19S2: doesn't actually lead people to freedom, can actually lead people
- 39:23S2: to kind of this cycle of stuckness, but they're just
- 39:26S2: saying maybe some of the right words. How do we
- 39:28S2: climb up on the high ridge where we identify that
- 39:30S2: some of these things are very real, but we don't
- 39:34S2: land there. We hold we continue to hold out the
- 39:37S2: truth of God's Word and the promise that we can
- 39:40S2: overcome anything.
- 39:41S14: Right. There's opposite extremes you can land on here. You know,
- 39:44S14: one is we just forget everything and move on and
- 39:47S14: we don't worry about it and kind of misuse that
- 39:49S14: passage of scripture. The other extreme is that you can
- 39:53S14: just get caught up in your whole life, and your
- 39:55S14: identity becomes your malfunctions. And what we're trying to avoid
- 39:59S14: is our malfunctions becoming our identity. So we want to
- 40:02S14: look at what is what God designed us to be.
- 40:05S14: Who did he designed us to be? And this is
- 40:06S14: where grace comes in. Because grace is all about everything
- 40:10S14: that God gives us to be the person that he
- 40:12S14: made us to be. And so there's always going to
- 40:14S14: be gaps. But what happens is we try to give
- 40:17S14: you exercises and things that you can do in each
- 40:21S14: one of these areas to improve, and not just to
- 40:24S14: stay there. And so you got to know, but what
- 40:26S14: is my target? What am I working on? And so
- 40:28S14: it's going to look very different if you're dealing with
- 40:29S14: spiritual warfare than if you're talking to inviting the Holy
- 40:33S14: Spirit in to do something in your life. Then if
- 40:36S14: you are meditating on scripture, or if you're doing something
- 40:39S14: a little bit more therapeutic, where you're looking at your
- 40:43S14: belief system and trying to replace those beliefs. And so
- 40:46S14: whereas a lot of books have like one, here's the
- 40:48S14: one thing, just, you know, get after these. What I've
- 40:50S14: tried to do is put the whole model together and
- 40:52S14: show that it actually takes all five of these. And
- 40:54S14: if you're stuck, sometimes it's because you just keep going
- 40:57S14: back to the same engine over and over again. And
- 40:59S14: there's actually some other things you might want to look at.
- 41:02S1: This is good. Let's, let's take a role play common scenario.
- 41:07S1: I'm thinking of everybody driving right now or walking a
- 41:09S1: path or sitting at home. There is a big temptation,
- 41:14S1: especially in the Western culture, that we are. Our worth
- 41:19S1: is measured by how we perform. Okay. So I want
- 41:22S1: you to coach us up in two minutes or less.
- 41:25S1: I'm kidding here, but give us some give us some
- 41:28S1: handles here. How to walk into that meeting? How to
- 41:31S1: have lunch with that friend in a way that my
- 41:33S1: validation isn't based on how I'm perceived by that person necessarily.
- 41:40S14: So one of the things that helps is like, I
- 41:43S14: deal with my I think about the engines. And so
- 41:46S14: before I go into that meeting, I want to do
- 41:48S14: something physically. So I'm going to deep breathe, you know,
- 41:52S14: pull the air in, blow the air out, and I'm
- 41:54S14: going to try to calm my body, maybe rub down
- 41:56S14: my arms a little bit and just calm myself. Second,
- 42:00S14: I'm going to get my head in a good space.
- 42:03S14: So I'm going to find a good motivation and remind
- 42:05S14: myself what I like about this person. I'm going to
- 42:07S14: remind myself to be curious and say, I'm going to
- 42:10S14: be curious. I'm going to show appreciation in this thing,
- 42:13S14: and I'm going to make it about my curiosity for them,
- 42:15S14: my appreciation for them. And I'm not going to worry
- 42:17S14: so much about how they think about me. And then
- 42:20S14: I want to get my, uh, you know, just a
- 42:24S14: quick game plan of what it is that I need
- 42:26S14: to accomplish in this meeting. And what are the bullet
- 42:28S14: points here that we need to be focused on? And
- 42:31S14: that's how I would, you know, recommend. I'm going to
- 42:33S14: walk into the meeting here and, uh, and make the
- 42:36S14: focus on what I appreciate about them. And then I
- 42:38S14: want to remind myself that I'm walking into this meeting
- 42:40S14: as somebody that God couldn't love any more than he
- 42:42S14: currently does.
- 42:44S1: That's now that's a game. That's the game. That's the.
- 42:46S10: Secrets.
- 42:47S1: No, we that's not a flyby, is it?
- 42:50S10: Not at all.
- 42:51S14: Well, it's true because, uh, we are all very aware
- 42:53S14: of the gaps in our lives. Everybody's very well that
- 42:56S14: I could be more than I am. I could be
- 42:58S14: further than I am. I could have a better prayer life.
- 43:02S14: I could have a better this I could do. Something
- 43:04S14: in my life could be better than it is. Maybe
- 43:06S14: a whole bunch of things. And so if we only
- 43:07S14: focus on the gaps, we don't. We think that God
- 43:11S14: would love us more if I shrunk that gap. But
- 43:14S14: that isn't the case. Because while we were yet sinners,
- 43:17S14: Christ loved us, right? So his love truly is unconditional
- 43:20S14: and his attitude is, I'm the perfect person that you
- 43:23S14: need in your life right now to help you, uh,
- 43:25S14: walk through what you're walking through. Uh, he's not as
- 43:28S14: concerned about the gaps as we are.
- 43:30S10: Wow. Love this.
- 43:31S2: Hope the book is called Breakthrough five Essential Strategies for Freedom, Healing,
- 43:36S2: and Wholeness. Our guest, doctor Marcus Warner, just text breakthrough.
- 43:39S2: We'll send you the details. Breakthrough to 805 557898. Text
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- 43:48S5: This is Carl and Crew on Moody Radio.
- 43:54S1: Young thunder going to be back in the saddle. Possibly tomorrow. Yeah,
- 43:58S1: it's getting a little time away, but we are, uh,
- 44:01S1: we're overjoyed that we get to, uh, get to be
- 44:05S1: here doing this. By the way, props to Merle stepping
- 44:08S1: in last minute every morning.
- 44:09S4: Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.
- 44:12S2: He's been he's been a faithful soldier behind the scenes
- 44:16S2: for as Jonathan was out on paternity leave and he
- 44:19S2: has just graciously stepped in. He's a member of the
- 44:22S2: team here at Moody Radio, but spent the mornings with us,
- 44:25S2: learned our whole crazy system of doing things.
- 44:29S4: And then still came back.
- 44:33S1: Turn your mic on there, Merle.
- 44:35S10: Yeah. We gotta.
- 44:36S15: We gotta hear a hello from from Merle.
- 44:38S16: I'm cracking up.
- 44:41S10: Merle you're a.
- 44:42S1: You're a blessing, man. Even when we prayed this morning
- 44:45S1: to get the show kicked off, he. He said something
- 44:47S1: like to God. He said, thank you, God, for the
- 44:50S1: privilege of being in here. And I'm thinking not too
- 44:53S1: many guys are thanking God for the privilege of waking
- 44:55S1: up at, oh, Dark 30.
- 44:57S2: Yeah. In addition to his other responsibilities here at Moody Radio.
- 45:00S4: He's.
- 45:01S2: Stepped in for our team in a major way. So
- 45:04S2: I'm going to I'm going to put a picture up
- 45:06S2: on our social media. So you can you can say
- 45:09S2: thank you to Merle and you can see who's been
- 45:11S2: helping us out over the last six weeks.
- 45:14S1: You got you should probably get one with his bride
- 45:16S1: in there. Boy, he's got a he's got a fireball
- 45:18S1: for a bride.
- 45:19S10: She's a she's.
- 45:20S2: Fantastic.
- 45:21S16: She loved meeting you guys and getting that picture. She
- 45:24S16: she put it up on Facebook immediately.
- 45:27S10: Yes.
- 45:28S4: It was so fun. I turned around, I'm like, oh.
- 45:30S16: Because we listen. We will listen to you guys every
- 45:33S16: morning on our way to work.
- 45:35S1: See how easily pleased she is.
- 45:36S10: Doesn't take much.
- 45:37S4: She lights up a room. I'm telling.
- 45:39S10: You, boy.
- 45:39S1: She is a spark plug, isn't.
- 45:41S10: She? Yeah.
- 45:42S1: My goodness, Merle.
- 45:44S4: Can I hang with her for a while?
- 45:45S10: Yeah.
- 45:46S1: Hey, we love you, Merle.
- 45:48S16: Love you too. Love you.
- 45:49S1: You're a good man. How long have you been following Jesus, Merle? Authentically. Really?
- 45:53S1: In it with him?
- 45:55S16: Eight years old, I would say. Sunday School with Sister
- 45:58S16: Shavers at Christian Tabernacle Baptist Church on the South Side
- 46:03S16: of Chicago. I grew up as an altar boy in
- 46:06S16: a Baptist church. So, um, that's my.
- 46:11S10: You.
- 46:11S1: Got a Wayback machine there, buddy?
- 46:12S16: Yeah.
- 46:14S1: Sister Shaver living it out. Yeah. It's just it's been
- 46:17S1: a blessing to have you here, man. I really mean
- 46:19S1: that from the bottom of my heart. You've done a
- 46:20S1: lot of early time, especially for a whole month when
- 46:23S1: Young Thunder was out. Now he's getting a couple of
- 46:25S1: days here. But to be able to jump in on
- 46:28S1: a moment's notice and set that alarm and get in
- 46:31S1: here and always with the smile on your face and
- 46:34S1: never grumpy, dumpy. That's pretty big, man.
- 46:37S16: Oh, well. Thank you. You guys have been so gracious
- 46:40S16: to me as well. Or with me as well. There
- 46:43S16: were a few bumps, I'll admit.
- 46:45S10: Hey, for all the stuff.
- 46:47S1: I mean, literally, Merle is sitting at Mission Control and
- 46:51S1: I can honestly tell you this. I don't know, one
- 46:54S1: button he hits. I don't know why he hits them.
- 46:58S10: I look at the screens.
- 47:00S1: I don't know what's on the screens. I don't I'm
- 47:03S1: I'm looking at them right now. And the screens have
- 47:06S1: all kinds of stuff going on them that I could
- 47:10S1: blow up this station if I hit the wrong button,
- 47:13S1: and I certainly would, but.
- 47:15S10: Oh man.
- 47:16S1: Merle, you've been a real blessing. And I want you
- 47:18S1: to know that from the bottom of our heart.
- 47:20S16: Thank you.
- 47:21S1: Tremendous man of God. Okay. Um, boy, we're having a
- 47:27S1: good morning here. Got some emotional stuff going on.
- 47:30S2: I know that emotional calls and testimonies. And now we're
- 47:33S2: getting emotional celebrating.
- 47:35S1: Yeah.
- 47:35S2: Merle.
- 47:36S1: Yeah.
- 47:37S2: Give him a shout out on Facebook and Instagram.
- 47:39S1: By the way, Merle the Pearl. Just for the record,
- 47:41S1: I was waiting. Carl loves a good nickname. Oh yeah.
- 47:44S1: He's the pearl man.
- 47:47S5: Helping you take the next step in your walk with Jesus.
- 47:50S1: God longs for us today to seek him and ask
- 47:54S1: him to move in ways that we never could.
- 47:56S5: You're listening to Carl and crew.
- 47:59S1: Guess what?
- 48:00S4: Yeah.
- 48:01S1: Oh my goodness. Hold on. Yeah. Sure enough, it's Wednesday.
- 48:06S1: I had to look over my shoulder.
- 48:08S4: Just checking.
- 48:09S1: It's the bottom of the hour. You know what it is.
- 48:12S5: Making herself laugh no matter who joins her. It's time for.
- 48:16S5: Allie thinks it's funny.
- 48:19S17: Yes. The fans go crazy. They're kind of nuts. That's
- 48:24S17: what we need. Here.
- 48:27S2: Oh, boy. Yeah, I got a I got a couple
- 48:29S2: jokes for you. The first one comes in the form
- 48:32S2: of just a little unsolicited life advice.
- 48:34S17: Okay.
- 48:35S2: From me, you can.
- 48:36S4: Oh, okay.
- 48:39S2: Always dangerous to give unsolicited advice, by the way, but, uh. Yeah,
- 48:42S2: I'll take a shot at it if you ever have
- 48:44S2: to borrow money from someone. Piece of advice.
- 48:49S17: Right?
- 48:49S1: You're a slave to the lender.
- 48:51S2: Okay, Carl.
- 48:52S1: Sorry.
- 48:53S2: Just hold it back until I get the punch, okay.
- 48:57S4: Just a minute.
- 48:59S2: Do you ever have to borrow money from someone? Borrow
- 49:01S2: money from a pessimist? Not an optimist. Just kind of
- 49:04S2: establish where they are in the kind of the glass
- 49:07S2: half empty, glass, half full sort of debate.
- 49:09S4: Okay.
- 49:10S2: If you have to borrow money, borrow money from a pessimist.
- 49:13S2: You want to know why? Yes. They never expect to
- 49:15S2: get their money back.
- 49:20S4: That's truth.
- 49:21S17: That's really good. Little. Just a.
- 49:23S4: Little.
- 49:23S2: Life advice.
- 49:24S17: If it.
- 49:25S2: Fits. If it fits, take it. If not, reject it.
- 49:27S2: No problem.
- 49:28S4: All right.
- 49:28S1: Fine. Negative. Ned. He won't be.
- 49:30S17: Surprised.
- 49:31S4: Negative, Ned.
- 49:32S2: I'm never getting that money back. Correct. Next up, if
- 49:37S2: you ever go to a restaurant. I guess this is, um,
- 49:40S2: maybe two forms of life advice. This is life advice
- 49:43S2: on ordering at your favorite Mexican restaurant.
- 49:46S17: Okay.
- 49:46S2: Okay. Do you ever get refried beans?
- 49:49S17: Oh, yeah.
- 49:49S2: Little rice and beans on the side of your carne
- 49:52S2: asada tacos. Those are my.
- 49:54S17: Favorite.
- 49:54S1: Don't do that to me.
- 49:56S2: What do you like on your beans? A little bit
- 49:57S2: of melted cheese.
- 49:59S17: Hot sauce.
- 49:59S2: Ooh. Hot sauce. Like the.
- 50:01S17: Whatever.
- 50:02S1: They got.
- 50:03S17: I'll throw it on there.
- 50:04S2: Okay. Uh, avoid getting onions on your beans.
- 50:08S1: Really?
- 50:08S2: Yeah. What do you get if you get onions on
- 50:11S2: your refried beans?
- 50:12S4: What?
- 50:14S2: Tear gas?
- 50:20S18: I can't believe you said that.
- 50:23S2: I can't believe I said it either.
- 50:24S4: But shock right now.
- 50:25S2: Okay, so that joke.
- 50:27S18: I cannot believe.
- 50:29S1: Ali just said that.
- 50:31S2: Okay, so in fairness, that joke. I went out to
- 50:33S2: eat with my whole family at Christmas time. No, no. Carl.
- 50:38S2: And on the menu at this Mexican restaurant was some jokes,
- 50:43S2: including this one. So my brother points it out. He's like,
- 50:45S2: do you see this joke? I read it, I am
- 50:48S2: at the table and I am rolling on the floor,
- 50:51S2: practically laughing, crying. And I'm like, oh, I have to
- 50:54S2: tell this one on air. It's a little it's close
- 50:57S2: to the edge.
- 50:58S1: Held on to that, though.
- 50:59S2: Close to the edge.
- 51:00S1: Close to the edge for you, Ali. That is over
- 51:03S1: the edge. You're in freefall and you don't have a parachute.
- 51:06S1: That is wild.
- 51:08S2: Text jokes to 805 57898. Come on.
- 51:13S1: What I'm laughing at more. The joker that Ali told.
- 51:16S4: I know right.
- 51:17S2: Jokes to 805 557898. Come on people. Text jokes to
- 51:24S2: 805 5578, 98. Yeah.
- 51:27S1: When you open Founder's Week tonight.
- 51:31S2: I open with that one.
- 51:32S4: Carl.
- 51:33S1: I would, I would give you $100 bill.
- 51:37S2: Okay. You'd give me $100 bill and I would get
- 51:39S2: never asked back to do anything publicly.
- 51:42S1: I promise you, I promise you, our president would say
- 51:46S1: we've got to have her back every year emceeing.
- 51:49S2: I think that this.
- 51:50S1: Could you imagine opening with that?
- 51:53S2: This is a Carla crew and crew exclusive jokes only
- 51:57S2: found here.
- 51:59S19: Tear gas. Oh. Tear gas. Nowhere else.
- 52:04S2: Nowhere else.
- 52:05S19: Bless your heart.
- 52:06S4: Feel free to share.
- 52:08S19: Oh my goodness.
- 52:09S1: Text jokes to 805 557898.