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Sean O'Connell Show - Full POD 8-31-26 · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 1: Happy Monday, everybody. Happy football season to all of you.
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  Speaker 1: College football is back on the Sean O'Connell show. We've
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  Speaker 1: got a fun one lined up for you. Ari Temkin
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  Speaker 1: in 30 minutes. We've got a Morgan Scali weekly press conference.
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  Speaker 1: You grew accustomed in the Kyle Whittingham era to hearing
• 0:43
  Speaker 1: Monday press conferences at 11 a.m. Now they are at noon.
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  Speaker 1: Morgan's going to be doing them at noon. We will
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  Speaker 1: carry that thing live. Our guy, Porter Larson, is headed
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  Speaker 1: up there with the old machine, and we will bring
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  Speaker 1: Morgan Scali's weekly presser to you as it unfolds from
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  Speaker 1: the facility. And then Zach Moss, the Utah reporter, running
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  Speaker 1: back legend who is now, we can officially say, also
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  Speaker 1: going to be reporting on the sidelines on your Utah broadcast,
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  Speaker 1: your Utah football broadcast, which, of course, you can hear
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  Speaker 1: right here on your home of the Utes, ESPN at 700.
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  Speaker 1: We look forward to talking with all of those individuals today.
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  Speaker 1: The season is indeed back. You had week zero games,
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  Speaker 1: San Jose State, USC, North Carolina, TCU. What are you doing,
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  Speaker 1: Horned Frogs? You killed us! You made us look bad
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  Speaker 1: in the Big 12, but that's fine. Virginia looked really
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  Speaker 1: good against NC State. And Stanford pulled off the comeback
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  Speaker 1: victory in the late cover against Hawaii. 37-27. Also, Florida State, yikes! 34-17,
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  Speaker 1: they win against New Mexico State. That one should not
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  Speaker 1: have been close. And Memphis beats UNLV. Former Utah quarterbacks coach,
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  Speaker 1: offensive coordinator Dan Mullen is still the head coach at UNLV.
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  Speaker 1: And tough start to their season down in Sin City.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk for just a second about the TCU-North Carolina game.
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  Speaker 1: Aviva Stadium, Dublin, Ireland. We discussed how this was one
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  Speaker 1: of the sparing opportunities for the Big 12 Conference to
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  Speaker 1: make a good impression on the national landscape. You've got
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  Speaker 1: a couple other ones coming up this week. Baylor against Auburn, Colorado,
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  Speaker 1: Georgia Tech. Those are important games. I don't think the
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  Speaker 1: West Virginia-Coastal Carolina game carries the same weight to it,
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  Speaker 1: but if Baylor can beat Auburn... Auburn is a seven-point
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  Speaker 1: favorite in that one. That's a good thing for this
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  Speaker 1: conference and a good thing for Dave Aranda. If Colorado
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  Speaker 1: can somehow find a way against Georgia Tech, I'd probably
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  Speaker 1: be even more surprised if that thing happens. Of course,
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  Speaker 1: Utah's got a Thursday night game against Idaho. We'll talk
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  Speaker 1: about the Idaho game as well and what we can
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  Speaker 1: expect throughout the week from the Vandals. TCU against North Carolina.
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  Speaker 1: Jaden Gregg, the former... a Harvard quarterback now playing for
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  Speaker 1: TCU finished 30 of, or excuse me, 20 of 32
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  Speaker 1: in the passing game, 175 yards, an abysmal five and
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  Speaker 1: a half yards per completion for Jaden Craig. They ran
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  Speaker 1: the ball. TCU did much better. Jeremy Payne had 25
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  Speaker 1: carries for 142 yards, but the offense for TCU is
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  Speaker 1: scored seven points. They also got a field goal, but
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  Speaker 1: they also gave up a safety, which means that their
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  Speaker 1: net in this game, the offensive net for TCU was
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  Speaker 1: five points. And even if you give the field goal credit,
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  Speaker 1: you give the offense credit for the field goal because
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  Speaker 1: they led the drive that resulted in those three points.
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  Speaker 1: It's still only an eight point net for an offense
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  Speaker 1: because you gave up a safety. Bad, bad, bad stuff.
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  Speaker 1: 15 to 10, you lose to a North Carolina team
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  Speaker 1: that now suddenly everyone is like, oh, wait, wait, Bill
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  Speaker 1: Belichick's got it figured out. His second year is going
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  Speaker 1: to be a lot different than his first year. Well,
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  Speaker 1: it's not. He scored 15 points. Knock it off. If
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  Speaker 1: you're TCU, you're this TCU defense, you're side-eyeing The offense,
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  Speaker 1: and you're going, guys, Sonny Dyches is a coach who's
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  Speaker 1: better known for his offensive prowess and his offensive genius
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  Speaker 1: than for anything that he's ever done defensively. What's going on?
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  Speaker 1: Why can't you move the ball? TCU was scoreless in
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  Speaker 1: the final three quarters. They only gave up 90 rushing
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  Speaker 1: yards to North Carolina. Ultimately, it is the Tar Heels
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  Speaker 1: and the ACC who emerge victorious from the Aer Lingus
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  Speaker 1: College Football Classic Aviva Stadium Dublin game. 15-10, North Carolina wins.
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  Speaker 1: So the Big 12 will not be relying on TCU.
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  Speaker 1: And my overreaction, because of course that's what you do
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  Speaker 1: the first time you see a team, my overreaction is
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  Speaker 1: to say, you know what, maybe that... TCU game that
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  Speaker 1: I was a little bit worried about for the university
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  Speaker 1: of Utah is actually not something we need to worry
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  Speaker 1: about at all. Of course, a lot can happen between
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  Speaker 1: now and week, whatever that is nine, but I'm still
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  Speaker 1: going to say as of August 31st in the year
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  Speaker 1: of our Lord, 2026 TCU, not a threat, not.
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  Speaker 2: Worried.
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  Speaker 1: Not skirt. TCU, November. Can't wait. TCU, just regular frogs.
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  Speaker 1: Not even horned anymore. The TCU frogs. That's what they
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  Speaker 1: have to give up on this after that performance. They
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  Speaker 1: have to take out the horned. Can you imagine if
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  Speaker 1: there was like some sort of bet, some sort of
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  Speaker 1: thing that you could do that? Where it's like, look,
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  Speaker 1: change their hand signal to this, right? Instead of. It's
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  Speaker 1: just a little, it's it, instead of the weird, like
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  Speaker 1: horns knuckles, they just a little frog mouth. Yeah. A
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  Speaker 1: little shadow puppet frog thing. They take the helmet decal,
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  Speaker 1: the logo. You just have to make it a smooth
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  Speaker 1: frog instead of a frog with the, the spiny scales
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  Speaker 1: all over it.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry.
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  Speaker 1: I guess you should have won. You just have to
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  Speaker 1: put a picture of Kermit. Hey, you're the frogs now.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, I remember when Zachariah was still filling in for you.
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  Speaker 1: Shout out to Zachariah. Shout out to our guy, Zachariah,
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  Speaker 1: who still, by the way, not only listens, but watches
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  Speaker 1: us on YouTube. Love that. Love that, Zachariah. We still
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  Speaker 1: love you, dude. He'll get a kick out of this.
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  Speaker 3: We were doing, because I was telling him, hey, TCU
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  Speaker 3: was a big Mountain West rival for Utah 20 years ago.
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  Speaker 1: Because I think we were asking, who is.
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  Speaker 3: going to be Utah's second biggest conference rival besides BYU,
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  Speaker 3: and I was making the case for TCU. And so
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  Speaker 3: I was doing, we're going to do Horned Frog down
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  Speaker 3: tonight at the TCU game. And it looked, the Horned
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  Speaker 3: Frog down looks super awkward, by the way. Like, it's
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  Speaker 3: either this way or this way.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: That way's worse. That way's way worse. That way's way worse.
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  Speaker 1: At the end of the day, this TCU team should
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  Speaker 1: not perform the way that they performed against North Carolina.
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  Speaker 1: And here's the... Here's the most aggravating thing. If you're
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  Speaker 1: a football fan, if you were rooting because of the
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  Speaker 1: big 12 interest for TCU and I was right. If
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  Speaker 1: you're Sonny Dyches, if you're a coach on that staff,
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  Speaker 1: if you're somebody who's even like remotely invested in a
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  Speaker 1: TCU positive outcome, which is that's me, I've remotely invested.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not like, I really need TCU to win this game.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, it would be a good little feather in
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  Speaker 1: the cap. at one, one point conference point for the
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  Speaker 1: big 12. Beyond that, I'm not rooting for the big
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  Speaker 1: 12 conference. Like who cares? But I'm, I'm remotely invested
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  Speaker 1: and to watch a team lose the game on an
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  Speaker 1: offsides penalty is horrific. That should happen in little league
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  Speaker 1: and not after, if that happens at a high school game,
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  Speaker 1: you're talking about how undisciplined that team is. how poor
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  Speaker 1: the coaching is, the fact that it should not be–
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  Speaker 1: guys who are going to do that should not be
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  Speaker 1: on the field, which then again goes back to coaching.
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  Speaker 1: For you to be drawn off sides on– was it
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  Speaker 1: third and one or fourth and one? On a game-deciding
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  Speaker 1: play potentially to give up the first down– as a
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  Speaker 1: division one college football player, as a division two college
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  Speaker 1: football player beyond, maybe, maybe you can get away with
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  Speaker 1: it past little league. If you're, but if you're a
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  Speaker 1: varsity high school player and you give up that play,
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  Speaker 1: that's not really like you are now below varsity level.
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  Speaker 1: You got to go back to the sophomore team. That
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  Speaker 1: might even be below JV. You can't, do that. If
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  Speaker 1: you haven't practiced that in situational football, or if your
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  Speaker 1: linebackers or the D lineman next to you, or the
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  Speaker 1: entire roster on the sideline is telling you, not telling
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  Speaker 1: you to hold your water. If you haven't worked that,
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  Speaker 1: if you haven't had that front of mind, okay, they're
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  Speaker 1: going to, they're going to try and draw us offsides here.
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  Speaker 1: Don't fall for a hard count. Don't fall for a flinch.
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  Speaker 1: Don't fall for anything. You cannot lose a game on
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  Speaker 1: an offsides penalty.
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  Speaker 2: TCU.
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  Speaker 1: I know it's the first game of the season and
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  Speaker 1: things are a little bit sloppier in that, but goodness
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  Speaker 1: in a game deciding scenario in an either this drive
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  Speaker 1: continues or it doesn't scenario, you give up that penalty.
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  Speaker 1: I know it's an individual problem. but it's not, it's
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  Speaker 1: a team problem. It's a coaching problem. And it's not
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  Speaker 1: something that a Sonny Dykes team can get away with.
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  Speaker 1: It's not, he's not a first year head coach. He's
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  Speaker 1: not a guy who just wet behind the years wide-eyed.
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  Speaker 1: I've never been to Dublin before. This is crazy. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what to do. You have to have your
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  Speaker 1: guys prepared. This guy was coaching in the national championship game.
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  Speaker 1: It's insane. Like this.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: To give it a, to lose on a penalty or
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  Speaker 1: is the biggest gut punch. There is it's worse than
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  Speaker 1: anything you can. I mean, if you get, if you
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  Speaker 1: get juked out of your drawers, that is less embarrassing
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  Speaker 1: than being, losing the game on a penalty.
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  Speaker 3: Speaker 0 1 it's more acceptable. You would think from
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  Speaker 3: a coaching perspective, from a fan's perspective, it's more acceptable
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  Speaker 3: to get embarrassed on the actual play, getting beat on
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  Speaker 3: an actual play and maybe embarrassed that way. Then giving
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  Speaker 3: up a penalty. They didn't even have to run a
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  Speaker 3: play to beat you. Yeah, that's bad.
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  Speaker 1: It's crazy.
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  Speaker 3: I'll say this to my reaction as far as the
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  Speaker 3: Big 12 perspective, because unfortunately, OC, no one has to,
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  Speaker 3: as a fan base of a team in the Big 12,
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  Speaker 3: like Utah fans, or if you're a BYU fan listening,
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  Speaker 3: shout out to our resident BYU fan in the other one.
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  Speaker 3: You don't have to root for the Big 12 team
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  Speaker 3: Every time there's a big 12 game on, but the
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  Speaker 3: nature of the hierarchy of the power for conferences, it
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  Speaker 3: kind of behooves you as a, as a BYU fan,
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  Speaker 3: as a Utah fan, if TCU beats North Carolina in
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  Speaker 3: a non-conference game, if Colorado upsets Georgia tech in a
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  Speaker 3: non-conference game, Baylor beats Auburn in these inter power for
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  Speaker 3: conference matchups, If you're a BYU fan in week two,
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  Speaker 3: it helps you if Utah beats Arkansas, right? So SEC
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  Speaker 3: and Big Ten, they don't even have to worry about that.
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  Speaker 3: But you kind of do have to worry about it
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  Speaker 3: in the Big 12. So I'll say this. From that perspective,
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  Speaker 3: it's a blow for the Big 12 conference in week
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  Speaker 3: one because North Carolina is not expected to do much
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  Speaker 3: this year, and you just lost to that North Carolina team.
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  Speaker 1: But some.
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  Speaker 3: things to sort of begin to explain it away that
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  Speaker 3: are plausible are one. We saw how badly Iowa state
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  Speaker 3: and Kansas state played in the Aer Lingus classic in Dublin,
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  Speaker 3: because traveling internationally, when you never do that, that, that
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  Speaker 3: can be hard to be ready.
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  Speaker 1: To play a game with that, with that kind of load.
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  Speaker 1: So there's that. The other thing is.
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  Speaker 3: It's not, at least you didn't lose to a big
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  Speaker 3: 10 or sec team. It's not like anyone's, nationally is
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  Speaker 3: going to be like, you know what? We hate the
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  Speaker 3: big 12 more because they lost to a mid-level ACC team.
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  Speaker 3: If they had lost to a mid-level, like a Mississippi state,
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  Speaker 3: you got to.
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  Speaker 1: Know you'd get you. They, I think this would be
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  Speaker 1: way worse. No, you know, it's worse to lose to
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  Speaker 1: the ACC team because you have no chance of catching
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  Speaker 1: anybody in the big 10 or the SEC. You have
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  Speaker 1: no chance in the eyes of anyone who matters in
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  Speaker 1: catching the big 10 or the SEC. So If Utah
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  Speaker 1: went into Indiana and beat the Hoosiers, no one is going, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: big 12 might be a better conference this year than
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  Speaker 1: the big 10. If, if Texas tech beat Oregon and
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  Speaker 1: Utah beat Indiana and BYU beat Michigan and Texas, Kansas
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  Speaker 1: state beat Ohio state. Nobody in the country is going
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  Speaker 1: to go.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: Big 12 is actually a better football conference. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: if all of that happened, they'd be crazy. If they didn't,
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  Speaker 1: I would say that, but nobody nationally would be like, wow,
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  Speaker 1: what a fluke that was. What a strange week that was.
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  Speaker 1: You can, if you're the big 12, you can outpace
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  Speaker 1: the ACC. It's your last hope. You have to catch them,
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  Speaker 1: but you have.
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  Speaker 3: The world's tallest short guy in, in the world, in the,
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  Speaker 3: in the eyes of national media and the decision makers.
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  Speaker 1: To be, to be the fourth of the power for conferences,
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  Speaker 1: which in reality in football right now, you are from
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  Speaker 1: a result standpoint, because what did we see last year?
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  Speaker 1: The big 10 for the third straight year, prove that
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  Speaker 1: they are the best conference in college football. The sec
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  Speaker 1: was not in the national championship game, but the ACC
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  Speaker 1: had a team there. And I know it's like, it's
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  Speaker 1: Miami and Miami is not to be judged the same
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  Speaker 1: way that other ACC teams are. There are Miami Clemson,
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  Speaker 1: Florida state should be handled a little bit differently.
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  Speaker 3: And if North Carolina ever gets their act together under
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  Speaker 3: Bill Belichick and maybe this is the first step towards
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  Speaker 3: doing that, then they would be in that group too.
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  Speaker 1: They have the sort of exposure, the notoriety to get there.
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  Speaker 1: Same with Duke, but more on the basketball front. But
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  Speaker 1: that's also true with North Carolina. The ACC has these
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  Speaker 1: sort of near premium brands, I think is the right
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  Speaker 1: way to say that. They're not blue bloods necessarily. Although Miami,
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  Speaker 1: you could make a pretty sincere case for.
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  Speaker 3: And Clemson because of recent national championships, but it's not
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  Speaker 3: all that recent anymore.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and Clemson also like you go back far enough
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  Speaker 1: in history and you'd say, Oh, like the dabble sweaty
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  Speaker 1: Clemson was a, a stirring of the echoes. That was
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  Speaker 1: like a recapturing of the once proud program. So like
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  Speaker 1: but the big 12 does not have that. So what
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  Speaker 1: the big 12 has to rely on now is the
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  Speaker 1: big 12 has to rely on. We are better than
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  Speaker 1: you now. We are better. Our mid-level teams are better
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  Speaker 1: than your mid-level teams. Our top-level teams are capable of
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  Speaker 1: making it to a national championship game like your top-level
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  Speaker 1: Miami team did last year. And that's why so many
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  Speaker 1: people in Big 12 country are just like, please, Texas Tech,
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  Speaker 1: make good on all of this spending. Some of them
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  Speaker 1: are like, please, BYU, make good on all this spending.
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  Speaker 1: Because last year was disastrous for the Big 12. not
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  Speaker 1: in a bowl game record scenario, not even in a non-conference, out-of-conference,
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  Speaker 1: preseason-type scenario like these games. Big 12 represented well in
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  Speaker 1: those games. But when it came to the college football playoff,
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  Speaker 1: your dominant champions got mollywhopped, got worked, were made to
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  Speaker 1: look like that Texas Tech team was made to look
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  Speaker 1: like you don't belong here. James Madison accounted better for
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  Speaker 1: themselves than Texas Tech did in a playoff game.
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  Speaker 2: So.
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  Speaker 1: the big 12 and maybe I'm more prone to this
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  Speaker 1: because I spent years doing this in the past. pack
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  Speaker 1: 12 covering that at a conference level and be like,
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  Speaker 1: I promise our teams are as good as these other teams.
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  Speaker 1: I promise this conference is just as good. I promise
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  Speaker 1: we're great. And in the final year of the pack 12,
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  Speaker 1: after the nail had already been put in the coffin,
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  Speaker 1: they had their best year of inter-conference football. You're like,
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  Speaker 1: I told you, but crap, it's over. It's too, it's
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  Speaker 1: too late. Washington made a national championship game. And I
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  Speaker 1: think the pack 12 that year went like six and
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  Speaker 1: one in bowl games or something stupid.
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  Speaker 3: Oregon was, if it was a 12 team playoff that year,
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  Speaker 3: Oregon would have been a playoff team.
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  Speaker 1: They were almost as good as Washington.
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  Speaker 6: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: It was like, it was one of those things where
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  Speaker 1: you're just like, oh, well it's too, too little too late.
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  Speaker 1: But the big 12, I mean, We're going to like,
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  Speaker 1: let this go away after today. I'm not going to
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  Speaker 1: keep harping on this unless it becomes a trend and
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  Speaker 1: a problem. But if, if we get to like week
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  Speaker 1: three and the big 12s record against sec, ACC big
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  Speaker 1: 10 is really bad. The narrative is going to persist.
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  Speaker 1: And by the way, this will absolutely be a one bid.
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  Speaker 1: If we're staying at a 12 team conference or 12
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  Speaker 1: team college football playoff, this will be a one bid
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  Speaker 1: league forever and ever. They're going to start treating you
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  Speaker 1: like the automatic qualifiers from the F from the, the
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  Speaker 1: group of four group of six, six group of six.
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  Speaker 1: You're now, you're now looking at a situation where you
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  Speaker 1: can less afford to lose the race to at the
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  Speaker 1: fourth and fifth place level than you ever could. If
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  Speaker 1: North Carolina is the fourth best team in the ACC,
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  Speaker 1: and we'll have to let the season play out. Virginia
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  Speaker 1: looked pretty good this weekend, so maybe North Carolina is
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  Speaker 1: a middle-of-the-pack team. Maybe they're slightly above that team. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: they're the best team in the conference. We don't know.
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  Speaker 1: But let's say that North Carolina is where we think
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  Speaker 1: they are, and they're kind of like a top four
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  Speaker 1: to six ACC team. If your TCU squad that played
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  Speaker 1: against them head to head is also top four to
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: six in the big 12 and you lose that. And
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: it's as direct a comparison as you're going to get
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: the big 12 conference can't afford that. They just can't
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: because you're already losing the narrative battle and you already
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: don't have the branding goodwill here. BYU, Utah, and now
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: Texas tech who hasn't done anything ever except spend money
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: and make noise. Those are your flagship brands. And as
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: much as we love our in-state schools here, as much
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: as we love the University of Utah, I have unfortunately
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: had to make this point many, many, many times. If
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: you go to the mall, you can find North Carolina
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: gear at your local sporting goods store when you live
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: in Salt Lake City. If you go to Charlotte, North Carolina,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: or you go to Durham or you go to Raleigh,
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: you cannot under any circumstance find Utes gear in their
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: store because the brand just doesn't carry the same weight.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: And I know that's mostly basketball and not football, but
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: the point stands, you can't afford to lose these games.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: So TCU strike against you. you're not invited to the
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: big 12 party next year. If you keep doing this crap,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: I think it even looks even worse. If TCU ends
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: up that that's their only loss on the season up until,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: up until the Utah game and North Carolina is who
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: we think they'll be somewhere around 500 for the season,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: maybe a little under 500, like they were last year.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: Like that looks even worse for the big 12. And
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: you nailed it as the reason why, like, again, Don't
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: take this as, I don't root for conference, I just
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: root for my team.
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: Fine.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: But you have to understand the reason why it helps
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: your team if a team that's not your rival, nothing
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: really to do with you other than they share the
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: same conference as you, loses a game like that, or
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: wins a game like that, it helps your team, loses
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: a game like that, it hurts your favorite team, because
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: these playoff bids are done by a subjective committee And
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: this subjective committee already thinks you might just be a
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: one bid team in a 12 team field in perpetuity.
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: You just kind of cemented that. You cement that with
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: losses like this by TCU.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: So now you're in this weird place where you have
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: to kind of hope North Carolina is better than they
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: really are. And maybe now you also have to hope
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: that TCU is worse than we expected them to be
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: so that you can say, oh, well, North Carolina is
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: the third best team in the ACC and TCU is
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: the ninth best team in the big 12. That's why
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: that was a close game. So if our ninth best
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: team almost beat your third best team, we're the better conference.
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: And I don't know how many, I, I, I genuinely
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: don't know how many big 12 ACC crossover games there
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: are this year. But the most important one will play
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: out the most important out of conference game. And it's
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: kind of a big 12 ACC because of what Notre
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: Dame has with the ACC. Like the most important of
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: these is of course going to be playing out in
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: Provo mid season when Notre Dame comes to Lavelle Edwards stadium.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: And of course the narratives are more, they're built more
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: importantly at the top of these conferences. So now the
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: sincere hope is North Carolina and TCU are not factors
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: in conference championship conversations at all, especially TCU, because if
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: you lost the out of, you want your, your best performers.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: It's why honestly, like when Utah won their first PAC
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: 12 championship, that was for us, wonderful, amazing celebratory, fantastic
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: for the PAC 12 conference. It wasn't their favorite look.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: It wasn't because that year times because the Oregon was
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: a team that probably would have made the playoff if
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: they don't lose to Utah twice. And USC probably makes
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: the playoff if they don't lose to Utah. More importantly,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: the PAC 12 looked at it because BYU, the BYU
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: fans were doing that thing where it said, well, we're
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: actually the PAC 12 champs. Cause we beat your PAC 12.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: They won what? Five games against PAC 12 teams that year.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: That was crazy. And Obviously Utah had also lost to
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: a group of, at that time, a group of five
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: team before they won. And it's easy for us because
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: we pay attention and we know the real story. It's
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: easy for us to say, well, hold on. That was,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: you were starting the wrong guy.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: Cam starting both those games. You probably, you win at
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: least one of those. If not both.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: You probably win them both.
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: And now you're a college football playoff team instead. But
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: you can't revise history. You have to tell it like
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: it was. They started the wrong quarterback. They lost. They
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: ended up winning a conference championship. And it was a
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: seminal moment for Utah football. It's one of the most
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: important seasons this program has ever had. It was an
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: absolute blast to watch. It was incredible. But if you're
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: sitting in USC shoes, in that case, Oregon shoes, Washington shoes,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: the conference office, you're going like, man, I really wish
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: they would have started the right quarterback at the beginning
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: of the season so that everyone realized how good this
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: team actually is or was capable of being because of
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: their record would then be different. TCU. I'm now rooting
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: against you actively Sonny. And I've always been because going
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: all the way back to when Sonny Dyches was coaching
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: Louisiana tech, And that's him. He brought that team out
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: of like, he had like the Motes kid. He had
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: some unbelievable guys like Ryan Motes was his name. He's
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: like five foot eight, like 165 pounds. And Sonny Dykes
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: was using him and made him one of the best
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: running backs in the country. If he'd have been anywhere else,
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: or we'd have been in the transfer transfer portal era,
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: things would have been very different for that guy and
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: very different for Sonny Dykes. in that time, but they
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: were playing Utah state back in those days. And I
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: was just like, Holy cow, this lot tech team is
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: a lot of fun to watch. I've been a fan
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: of Sonny Dykes. I've been a supporter of Sonny Dykes
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: when he was in Cal, I was in the Bay
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: area and I was like, hold on, just give him
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: some time. It's going to work here. And then weirdly
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: it never did. I think it's because Sonny Dyches is
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: a Texas guy, is a South guy. It doesn't work
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: in the Bay Area the way that he was doing things.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: But I've always been a Sonny Dyches apologist and supporter.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: Now I'm actively rooting against you, Sonny, because you embarrassed us.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: Egg on the face. Your offense looked atrocious against the
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: North Carolina team that I think when it all shakes
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: out is actually not going to have that great of
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: a defense. On the fact.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: They're, they probably won't have a great offense either. I mean,
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: they only scored 15 points. Like this is, this could
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: be just a average year for both teams, but that's like,
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: like you said, hugely overreaction Monday type thing on week
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: after week zero of the season, obviously a lot of
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: time left.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: You know what? We'll talk a little bit about, uh,
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: How embarrassed we should be by this with Ari Temkin. Ari,
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: of course, covers the Pac-12, covers the Big 12. Now
• 27:22
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• 27:25
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• 27:28
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• 27:31
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• 28:32
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• 28:35
  Speaker 1: a friend of the program to talk all things Big
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: 12 football. Hi, Ari, how are you?
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: I'm great, OC.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: How are you, buddy? Man, I could not be better.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: College football is back. Fun slate of Week 0 games,
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: and now, of course, we get into it in earnest
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: with Week 1.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know why we have to talk about TCU.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: We should instead just point and laugh at USC, should
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: we not?
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: Well, I would feel a lot better about pointing and
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: laughing at USC, but USC won their football game, and
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: TCU had an opportunity, Ari, and they squandered it with
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: an abysmal offensive performance over the final three quarters against
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: North Carolina. I thought this was kind of like a
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: 27-yard field goal for the That may be underestimated, Bill
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: Belichick's coaching ability and improvement ability from year one to
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: year two. But I felt like a lot of this
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: was more about Sonny Dyches' team underperforming than North Carolina
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: doing anything to be world beaters.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I think you're a hundred percent right there because,
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: you know, while I think both things can be true,
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: you know, I mean, there was a valiant defensive effort
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: on the part of North Carolina. The Tar Heels let,
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: left the door open, you know, for the majority of
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: this game, TCU just refused to walk through it. And, and, Look,
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: there was a ton of extracurricular on TCU in the
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: lead-up to this game. There was, of course, the situation
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: with one of their players punching out another player and
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: getting charged with aggravated assault, which is a fairly heinous crime.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: And then you also have the subplot to that with
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: the newspaper disallowing coverage of the team's Rather, TC disallowing
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: coverage of the team from the newspaper that most often
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: covers them. So then they go and play the game
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: and look completely undisciplined, completely not ready to play a
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: football game. And that's more than anything what I attribute
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: this loss to. I mean, Jaden Craig wasn't great. You know,
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: you can certainly... you know, pick through many of the
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: mistakes that Craig made throughout this game. And yet, despite
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: all of the mistakes, they still had an opportunity on
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: the stretch to win it. And yet Craig couldn't do
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: it on a fourth and two from the 10 yard line. So,
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: but I just, I think there were far too many mistakes.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: You know, you, you have a really bad unsportsmanlike conduct
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: penalty for pointing out a first down by running back
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: Jeremy Payne when he's rolling in the first half and
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: you know, it might've been a bad call, but if
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: that's an emphasis from officials, that's on the head coach
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: to emphasize that to his team, that's an emphasis this year.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: And I bet you across college football, every single coach
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: will be showing film of that to their team to
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: make sure that none of them are doing that to
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: cost them 15 yards. You also had another horrible penalty
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: where you had a free sack, the quarterback falls to
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: the ground. And one of your best pass rushers doesn't
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: understand what's happening there on your wallet. And Now he
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: gets another 15, which extends the drive when it could
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: have been third down, and he might have been able
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: to get off the field. And once again, they pan
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: to Sonny Dykes, and he's screaming at the officials. It
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: ain't the officials' fault that your team doesn't know the rules.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: So it was a horribly undisciplined game. The 15 was
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: 103rd in penalties per game last year with seven. Well,
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: they surpassed that in this one with 11 penalties. And that,
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: to me, is the game. This was an undisciplined, poorly
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: coached football team, and that's what we saw.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Highlighted by that that final offsides penalty where you're just
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: like come on man like that.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Oh it's perfectly emblematic of the whole game and you
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: know i mean even i'll tell you the fourth and
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: two from the 10 yard line you know where some
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: people are wondering if if craig would have had the
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: corner but i just think that tentativeness that the nerves
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: that was pretty evident throughout the game with craig he
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: just didn't have a good feel for the offense and
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: You know, I think there were probably points within this
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: game where TCU could have made everybody forget about the
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: fact that Jordan Dwyer was not available, and yet their
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: two outside receivers were not available, and it just didn't happen.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: And one more thing I'll say on this, because I'm
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: probably the minority, even before they went for it on
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: fourth and one earlier in the game. I'm usually very aggressive.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: I like the aggressive calls. I think in that situation
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: where points are a premium in a low-scoring game where
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: you've just gotten a turnover in plus territory, you need
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: the points. We can bellyache about the call. The call
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: was dreadful, calling a dive on a fourth and one
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: against Bill Belichick's defense. not, I mean, just not advised,
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: but like, even, even if they had put the right call, which,
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: you know, run some motion, maybe spread, spread the formation
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: out and then run between the tackles. I still kick
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: the field goal there. I really do because I need
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: points in that situation. I cannot come up empty. I
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: think it was demoralizing to the team. And look, if
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: they kick the field goal there and make it, now
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: it's not a given they would have made it, but
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: if they kick the field goal there and make it,
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: it's 15-13. And now that final drive on the fourth
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: and two, you're trying to set up for the game
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: go-ahead field goal as opposed to needing it all at
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: that point of time.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: How much will we be talking about this loss by
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: a Big 12 team to an ACC team in, you know,
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: Week 10.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: Man, I hope not. You know, I mean, you and
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: I spent a lot of this offseason talking about the
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: importance of these games. And this was certainly one of
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: the quote unquote must wins. I think you've got to
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: flip some of the other ones now. I mean, if
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: Colorado can get a win over Georgia Tech in Atlanta
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: on Thursday night, that would be huge. Um, you know, if,
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: if Baylor get a win over Auburn on Saturday night,
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: that would be huge. So, yeah, I mean, this is
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: one that you needed just from a perception standpoint, you know,
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: it remains to be seen how good North Carolina will be.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think Billy Edwards, their quarterback, like he
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: missed a lot of throws in this game too. I mean, there,
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: there was a point, I think after they, after TCU
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: missed the, uh, the, the fourth and one, uh, they
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: had a great drive. North Carolina had a great driver.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: They took a ton of time off the clock. And
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: then on a third down, Billy Edwards missed a guy
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: wide open. And had he hit that, you'd probably go
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: up by a touchdown and put the game to rest. Instead,
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: he missed them. They missed the field goal, and that
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: keeps TCU in the ballgame. So I'm not sure that
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: time will vindicate this win in terms of what North
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: Carolina does. But, yeah, it's a bad loss. And I
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: think it says a lot more about TCU than it
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: probably does about the Big 12.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: Ari Temkin here on the Sean O'Connell show talking all things,
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: big 12 and college football, because the season is back
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: and we're lucky as Utah fans. We don't have to
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: wait all the way until Saturday to get the first
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: glimpse at this Morgan Scali team, which of course is
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: a brand new era of Utah football, Idaho. We did
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: get to see some of Idaho. They gave up, you know,
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: 500 yards of offense to Cal Poly. So it's, you know,
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: you don't get to, Compare apples and oranges. You're not
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: supposed to do that. But I mean, given what we
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: saw from Idaho, giving up a comeback victory to Cal
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Poly and the numbers that the Mustangs were able to
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: put up, I think this should be a nice little
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: ease it in type game for the Utes on Thursday night.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: What did you see? Did you have a chance, I guess,
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: to see anything of Idaho?
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: No, I mean, but, you know, look, aside from what
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: we've seen from them last year and really start this season,
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: like this has been a pretty consistent program, you know,
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: at a lesser level. But I think to your point,
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: really good entry point into the season. Is it Arkansas
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: week two? Yes. The Arkansas game week?
• 36:15
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: So, I mean, I think kind of the perfect. you know,
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: Morgan Scali debut, Kevin McGiven debut. Let's see what this
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: offense is capable of. And my assumption would be you
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: could win this game fairly easily without having to show
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: much on film to Arkansas within what you're doing. So
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: that's the hope, right? Because The less you give Arkansas
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: to prepare for, the better off you're going to be
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: because this is, for all intents and purposes, an offense
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: that nobody's ever seen before with McGiven. I'm excited to
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: see the first data points of this team. I'm expecting
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: a dominant performance, especially on the ground game. I'm sure
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: they could play it pretty basic, pretty vanilla on the
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: ground game and still win going away. Really good opportunity
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: here week one for the Utes on Thursday night.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: You and I have talked a lot about what this
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: offensive line is going to be replacing all five starters
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: and just driving home exactly what they're replacing as of
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: final cut day yesterday, which there's still movement that happens.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: Four of last year's starting five offensive linemen are either. Well,
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: one of them is on a practice squad and three
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: are on 53 man rosters. So you're not just replacing
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: five starters. You're replacing that level. of starters that are
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: all getting at least their cup of coffee in the NFL.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: And of course, two of them were first round draft picks.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: So they'll get much more than that. That, that highlights
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: to me the importance of this position room, this position
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: group catching up and catching up quick.
• 37:45
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's so well said OC and like, the
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: one thing every year that is, should be a really
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: good reminder for everybody, especially college football players is how
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: freaking hard it is to make an NFL roster. You know,
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, we think and watch some of these guys
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: play in the big 12 and think like, Oh, that
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: guy's for sure an NFL player. And they don't even
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: get a chance to sniff a 53 man roster. And
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: then there's other guys, you know, in the same vein,
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: you think the same thing of, and You know, look,
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: last year, Utah's offensive line, I think Texas Tech's defensive line.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, you look at how many guys, three, I
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: think three guys from that defensive, four guys from that
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: defensive line off the top of my head. Certainly four
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: from their front seven are on NFL rosters. And of course,
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: David Bailey was the second overall pick. So, you know,
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: in comparison to other conferences, like that's fairly normal to
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: see a group of maybe not three on the same team,
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: but at least one every year, one or two guys
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: that are high-level draft picks. And that's the difference. Even
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: Texas Tech saw that when they went up against Oregon. Hey,
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: that's a defensive front. That is an NFL defensive front, right?
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: Like some teams have really good offensive lines or really
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: good defensive lines, but fewer teams have NFL-level offensive and
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: defensive lines. And so to your point, like three guys
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: from Utah, three guys on the defensive line from Texas Tech,
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: And that's not even to count the front seven. That
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: just shows the level of talent within this conference and
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: why Texas Tech was so hard to beat last year.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: Because we saw in one of the few matchups that
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: Utah aligned up against that Texas Tech defensive front. It
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: was not a great day for them. um and yet
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: despite that um they still had one of the best
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: offensive lines in college football and three guys that are
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: pros so it just goes to show one how hard
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: it is and two like when we think about like
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: really good elite positional groups in this conference you know
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: how much they compare to like nfl type players and
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: and we saw that again with texas tech and utah.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: All right, the full slate of Big 12 games this weekend,
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: starting with the Thursday night affair for the University of Utah,
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: which admittedly is not the most compelling or appealing of
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: the matchups involving Big 12 teams. I shouldn't say starting
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: with it because Colorado and UCF, I guess, both kick
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: off on Thursday night before Utah does. But which of
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: these Big 12 games in a full slate has your
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: attention primarily, like first and foremost, if you had to?
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: to put them in order.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I think the two would be Colorado,
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: Georgia tech. You mentioned that game in Atlanta, Georgia tech
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: beat Colorado last year, but they have a ton of
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: turnover this year, including, you know, a quarterback and a
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: huge difference maker for them. And with Colorado, I think
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: they're a major surprise team in the big 12. Like
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: this is a game they probably need because their schedule
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: is really tough within conference. So if they're going to
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: be a bowl team and get to six wins, this
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: is certainly one of them and it's going to be tough. They're,
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: they're going to be underdogs in the road, but I like,
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: I'm excited to see what Brennan Marion and that new
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: go-go offense has for Colorado and And then Auburn and Baylor,
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: you know, this was a big game last year. Auburn
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: ran all over Baylor, and we thought that it might
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: be a tell for what was to come for Auburn season.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: And as it turns out, they were not very good,
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: fired their coach, and now Alex Golesh is in there.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: So this can be a tough spot for Baylor. You know,
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: obviously the Bears need some wins here in order to
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: keep Dave Aranda's job. D.J. Lagway is, you know, certainly
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: from his standpoint and position to try to you know,
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: solidify himself as a potential draft pick here. There've been
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: very few, if any, I think we looked at this
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: number where it was, you know, quarterbacks that transfer after being,
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: you know, I think it was like the 24, seven sports,
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: like top 100 or top top 50 quarterbacks to transfer
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: once have a chance to get drafted, but quarterbacks to
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: transfer twice after that have zero chance to get drafted.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: It just, in terms of the history on it, where they,
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: those guys just end up falling through the cracks. So
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: he's sort of at his last stop in terms of
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: is he an NFL-type prospect. So that's another one. I
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: think there's some under-the-radar games. I'm really excited to see
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: Coastal Carolina and West Virginia. That is the Bobby Petrino
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: family team now. Coastal Carolina has... Their head coach, Ryan Beard,
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: is married to Bobby Petrino's daughter. Their offensive coordinator is
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: Nick Petrino, Bobby's son. And then their defensive coordinator is L.D. Scott,
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: who is married to Bobby Petrino's other daughter. That's not
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: a joke. That is literally the entire family of Bobby
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: Petrino now at Coastal Carolina.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: The craziest thing about that is having two brothers-in-law. You
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: hire your two brothers-in-law? Come on, man. You're asking for trouble.
• 42:32
  Speaker 7: I mean, it's insane.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: And it's funny because I was looking it up and
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, that's Bobby Petrito's son is the
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: offensive coordinator. And then you look and they're all from
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: Missouri State. They were all with Bobby when he was
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: at Missouri State. When Ryan Beard left Missouri State, you know,
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: it's Nick Petrito that takes over as the interim coach.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: Then they all bolt for Coastal. And yeah, all of
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: them working together. What could possibly go wrong?
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: And then the.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: Funniest part about the cherry on top of it is,
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: of course, how good of a family man we know
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: Bobby Petrito to be historically.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: There is that. There's that as well.
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: Hey, we've all been caught on motorcycles, right?
• 43:11
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: Not in that exact circumstance, but definitely. I own a motorcycle. So, yeah,
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: you could catch me on a motorcycle. Not doing Bobby
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: Petrino stuff. Ari, enjoy the weekend, man. Thank you so much,
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: as always, for joining us. And we'll be chatting again
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: on Monday with a full slate of Big 12 to digest.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: Can't wait, buddy. Thursday, man. Three games. It's going to
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: be a lot of fun. Be well. Take care.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: Ari Temkin does a great job covering this conference and
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: really all of college football and now also doing some
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: work on the Dallas Cowboys as well. So big thanks
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: to Ari for hopping on with us. We'll talk about
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: some Utes who made 53-man rosters. We'll maybe not get
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: to all of them in this next segment because coming
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: up in 12 minutes... And it might be less than that,
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: so we're going to break now because Morgan Scali's press
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: conference is on Mondays at noon. We will carry that
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: thing live for you right here on the Sean O'Connell Show,
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: ESPN 700 and 92.1 FM. Another one bites.
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: The dust.
• 44:18
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• 44:21
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• 44:24
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• 44:26
  Speaker 1: Another one. Are you ready for football season? I'm ready
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• 45:28
  Speaker 1: than telling you every Utah player who made a 53-man roster,
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: I'll give you some that got waived yesterday that will
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: bum you out, but these guys have opportunities to jump
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: on practice squads, things like that. Mitch Wisnowski waived by
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: the Bills. Junior Tafuna waived by the Jets. Logan final
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: wave by the Browns. And that one is especially painful
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: because of course, younger brother, first round draft pick projected starter.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: And you hope that they'd be able to team up
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: and kind of stick with each other. I wonder if
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: Logan's going to stay out there in Cleveland and just,
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: you know, try to try to hang around practice squad
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: and things like that, but help his brother adjust to
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: NFL life. We'll cover that more as the season progresses.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: I want to take a break now just in case
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: Morgan Scali follows the shoes of his predecessor and starts
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: his weekly press conference a couple minutes early. So one
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: more break in this first hour, and then we'll start
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: hour number two with the official Morgan Scali weekly press conference,
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: week one of Utah football season, on your home of
• 46:35
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• 46:38
  Speaker 5: We don't need no education.
• 46:42
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• 46:46
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• 46:49
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• 46:56
  Speaker 1: No dark sarcasm in the classroom. Look, we don't know
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: 100% what the effects of the private equity deal are
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: going to be on Utah football, but it would appear
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: that they have classed up the joint for the weekly
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: press conference. Reporters up there posting pictures that they've got
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: like a full catering spread, like a halftime meal going on.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: There was cheesecake. There was a bunch of those, you know,
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: the– The chafing dishes where you got the little sterno
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: fuel on the bottom and the lid on the thing.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: That's an upgrade. Looked like there were some breadsticks involved.
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: Oh, see, I'm going to show you how to push
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: the buttons back here because I think we need one
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: more person up there to cover with Porter. I don't
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: think Porter's got it by himself. I think I need
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: to go up every week. Unrelated to what you said.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: Witt started bringing pizza in last year, and I was
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: kind of like, oh, yeah, for sure he's out of
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: here if he's just– He's like gifting people pizza on
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: his way out the door. Now they've got like the full,
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, it seems like that's probably chef Pete making
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: it up.
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: Let's go. Let's go. Morgan Scali's first season presser is
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: going to start momentarily here. Uh, Porter Larson is up
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: there making sure we get connected.
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: I also have another question asking for a friend. Would
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: it cost $ 800 for someone to go up there and
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: enjoy that at the weekly press conference?
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: That's, No, that's a Provo thing. Oh, okay. You could
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: probably charge more for chef Pete. Absolutely. And maybe you
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: get to ask a question of Morgan Scali at his
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: weekly presser. There's gotta be someone who's willing to pay
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: journalists would be so pissed. Oh, they started selling off questions.
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: That'd be awesome. Absolutely.
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: Tony Jones shout out would, would you remember the, the
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: controversy with the Jacksonville At the Jacksonville Jaguars, Tony spouted
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: off about that on Twitter. I couldn't even imagine what
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: would happen, what we'd hear from Tony Jones and others
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: about that.
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: I want to see that happen now for that very reason,
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: because I want to see how mad people can get
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: over it. Wouldn't that be cool? It'd be fun. I'm
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: filibustering right now, just to be fully transparent.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: Porter, either.
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: I'm a little bit uncomfortable with the fact that it
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: is now 11 59 50 and we are not all
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: the way dialed in and listening to Morgan Scali. It's
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: freaking me out a little bit. Idaho comes into Rice
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: Eccles Stadium on Thursday night. This is going to be
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: I think exactly the warm-up game that Utah needs for
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: the first you know First crack under a fully realized,
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: fully staffed up, fully recruited, like a fully actualized Morgan
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: Scali coached football season. He did a great job in
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: the bowl game. They were still cobbling some things together
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: and figuring some things out. Obviously, you had guys from
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: last year's roster. This is now Morgan's team, officially. It's
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: his first team. It's his first staff. It's his own guys.
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: And you've got a situation where You get an Idaho
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: team who's coming on a short week. They played Friday night.
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: They're back in action Thursday night. They played against Cal Poly,
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: gave up a late touchdown. That allowed Cal Poly to
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: pull off the win there. 38-34 was the final. They
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: also gave up. I can hear you. Oh, okay. James
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: is connecting with Porter up there at the facility right now. Okay,
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: so Morgan is not exactly like his predecessor, who always,
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: they would schedule the Monday presser for 11, and then
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: it was always on air at 11 or at 1057
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: or something like that? Yeah, and it was Bill.
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: Who was in this time slot forever going, yeah, always
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: reminding me, hey, remember we're going to start the show
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: a few minutes early.
• 51:15
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: And then I had to, hey, remember we're starting a
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: few minutes early because it's wit. And now, I don't know,
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: maybe we can go five minutes later with Morgan.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: Can I tell you, this is actually a very significant improvement.
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: I never loved that you would be rushing on to
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: the show. We'd like crack the mic and be like, oh, okay,
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: Kyle Whittingham's at the podium now. Morgan Scali, weekly presser now.
• 51:45
  Speaker 7: Welcome.
• 51:45
  Speaker 9: Excited for this home opener, get this thing going. We've
• 51:50
  Speaker 9: been hitting each other for some time now. Fall camp
• 51:54
  Speaker 9: went really well. Established a two deep at the majority
• 51:59
  Speaker 9: of our position groups with some injuries still lingering a
• 52:04
  Speaker 9: little bit, so we'll see come game day, nothing that's
• 52:07
  Speaker 9: going to keep guys out of the mix for the
• 52:10
  Speaker 9: most part, so really healthy fall camp, pleased with the
• 52:15
  Speaker 9: coaches' energy, the players' energy, getting a leadership council and
• 52:20
  Speaker 9: captains in place that really kind of determine where things
• 52:25
  Speaker 9: go from here on out.
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: But excited. I know our fans are excited.
• 52:29
  Speaker 9: I think it's been, what, 95 straight sellouts, and we've
• 52:34
  Speaker 9: got an unbelievable fan base, so Home opener versus Idaho.
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: We were able to get.
• 52:41
  Speaker 9: A sneak peek of them last week and nothing but
• 52:46
  Speaker 9: respect for Coach Ford and that group. Got an offense,
• 52:50
  Speaker 9: a dynamic quarterback that was very efficient both throwing and
• 52:55
  Speaker 9: when you add in the running element that causes some
• 52:59
  Speaker 9: issues for defense.
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: Really good wide receivers. Tight ends that are athletic.
• 53:03
  Speaker 9: A seasoned offensive line on the defensive side of the ball,
• 53:07
  Speaker 9: very twitchy up front, active. You can kind of tell
• 53:10
  Speaker 9: how a team's coached by how they run to the ball.
• 53:12
  Speaker 9: These guys run to the ball. So with that said,
• 53:15
  Speaker 9: I'll open it up for questions.
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: Fire away, Steve.
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: Oh, you know what?
• 53:19
  Speaker 6: No.
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: Justin gets the first. Justin gets the first.
• 53:24
  Speaker 10: And I'm reading Justin's question.
• 53:25
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 53:26
  Speaker 11: So it says, with this being your second game as
• 53:28
  Speaker 11: Utah's head coach, with fourth down and six to go,
• 53:30
  Speaker 11: are you more likely to go analytical or follow your instinct?
• 53:34
  Speaker 9: You are always stirring the pot, dude.
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, kind of a mix.
• 53:41
  Speaker 9: You take everything into account, how practice went, the people
• 53:46
  Speaker 9: that do the analytics, I mean, just going over those
• 53:47
  Speaker 9: numbers and how they do it, I mean, really, really smart. But,
• 53:51
  Speaker 9: you know, there's also a feel for the game, and
• 53:53
  Speaker 9: I'll take everything into account, just not your opinion.
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: Okay, all right.
• 54:01
  Speaker 9: Yes.
• 54:03
  Speaker 5: You coached.
• 54:03
  Speaker 8: A lot of Utah season openers, but this is obviously
• 54:06
  Speaker 8: the first one as head coach. Do you anticipate when
• 54:09
  Speaker 8: you walk out onto the field to feel different, and
• 54:11
  Speaker 8: are you planning on crying?
• 54:13
  Speaker 7: No.
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: No.
• 54:15
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't plan on it being too much different,
• 54:19
  Speaker 9: and no, I don't plan on crying.
• 54:21
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 54:22
  Speaker 9: Unless something horrible happens. We don't need that.
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: Knock on wood.
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: You already have your first win under your belt as
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: head coach, but what would your first.
• 54:30
  Speaker 7: Win at home mean?
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: A win. you know, I'm excited for our players.
• 54:36
  Speaker 9: It's all about them and the way, the preparation that
• 54:39
  Speaker 9: they've put in, buying into our culture and our way
• 54:42
  Speaker 9: of doing things. We've got, like I said, a really
• 54:45
  Speaker 9: good group of leaders that, you know, they hold each
• 54:51
  Speaker 9: other accountable, which is an awesome thing to see. It's
• 54:54
  Speaker 9: not always easy to hold each other accountable and to
• 54:59
  Speaker 9: bring others along. A lot of people shy away from that,
• 55:01
  Speaker 9: but we've got some good ones. So, These players are
• 55:04
  Speaker 9: ready and cannot wait for them to let it loose.
• 55:09
  Speaker 10: Morgan, you've waited a long time to become the head
• 55:12
  Speaker 10: coach of the University of Utah. What has it been
• 55:15
  Speaker 10: like learning from.
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: Being a small.
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: I think we lost connection with the facility up there
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: as Morgan, our guy Justin, coming in with just a
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: burner on the first question. Oh, that's crazy that the
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: first question of his season was a shot across the
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: bow of the analytics heavy approach from his predecessor. Really,
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: really surprising there. Anyway, Morgan addressing the media. And we
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: got another tweet, by the way, about the media meal.
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: It is indeed from the facility provided by Chef Pete
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: and company. So good to see our fellow media members
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: getting taken care of. And obviously here on the Home
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: of the Utes, we're going to try to reconnect you
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: to the Morgan Scali Press Conference. He gave some compliments
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: to Idaho that You know, your coach is taking the
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: high road there. This is an Idaho team that showed
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: some real vulnerabilities in their week one loss, or excuse me,
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: their week zero loss to Cal Poly. And now we're
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: back with Morgan.
• 56:44
  Speaker 9: He's really good right now. He was one that went
• 56:46
  Speaker 9: down a little bit earlier in fall camp. You know,
• 56:50
  Speaker 9: Jai Moa's been consistent all throughout. And, you know, I
• 56:55
  Speaker 9: like where we're headed. We just need to get everyone
• 56:57
  Speaker 9: healthy and ready.
• 57:00
  Speaker 8: Morgan, with the offensive line obviously replacing all five guys,
• 57:02
  Speaker 8: what is the sign of success in this first game,
• 57:06
  Speaker 8: knowing that it takes time to build that.
• 57:07
  Speaker 10: Communication, especially in real game reps?
• 57:11
  Speaker 9: Just no intolerable penalties. Just want to play clean. Want
• 57:16
  Speaker 9: to play clean and you're not going to be perfect,
• 57:19
  Speaker 9: but aggressive.
• 57:22
  Speaker 4: We want to be physical. We don't want to be soft.
• 57:25
  Speaker 9: And For me, success is running the ball well and
• 57:32
  Speaker 9: playing clean.
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: Morgan, when you are in.
• 57:35
  Speaker 11: A game like this, obviously installing the new offense, you
• 57:38
  Speaker 11: have all these new pieces on the offense. What is
• 57:40
  Speaker 11: the line between not having a vanilla play calling game
• 57:44
  Speaker 11: and having one that doesn't give away everything that's in
• 57:47
  Speaker 11: your guys' Rolodex for this season?
• 57:49
  Speaker 9: I think Kevin's done a nice job of having enough
• 57:55
  Speaker 9: throughout spring and fall that you're always going to see
• 58:00
  Speaker 9: something new. With this offense and the amount of threats
• 58:04
  Speaker 9: that we have, playmakers that we have, you know, you
• 58:09
  Speaker 9: may see something new every single week in terms of
• 58:12
  Speaker 9: not just play selection but personnel, right? And that's what
• 58:17
  Speaker 9: I think makes this offense difficult to defend is that, okay,
• 58:23
  Speaker 9: they're sitting there in a four-wide group. They're sitting there
• 58:27
  Speaker 9: in a 12 personnel, and then all of a sudden
• 58:30
  Speaker 9: it's 13 personnel with your two rhino tight ends. There's
• 58:34
  Speaker 9: something for every defense to be worried about. Not too
• 58:40
  Speaker 9: worried about being vanilla.
• 58:43
  Speaker 8: Morgan, you've been on the sidelines so many times as
• 58:45
  Speaker 8: defensive coordinator.
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: What do you think the biggest adjustment is going to
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: be when the game starts as head coach? Are you
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: anticipating anything that might take you by surprise?
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: Just for me to shut up. Just to turn off
• 58:58
  Speaker 4: the mic, I guess.
• 59:00
  Speaker 9: Let Coach Swan do his deal.
• 59:05
  Speaker 4: I'm excited for him.
• 59:06
  Speaker 9: That's another aspect of this that Colton Swan's worked his
• 59:10
  Speaker 9: tail off to be in this position. They've done a
• 59:14
  Speaker 9: great job in fall camp of having these guys fly around.
• 59:17
  Speaker 9: He's pretty dialed in, so I'm excited to see him perform.
• 59:21
  Speaker 12: The biggest difference from last year to now going into
• 59:23
  Speaker 12: this season is?
• 59:27
  Speaker 4: Well, health being the number one thing.
• 59:28
  Speaker 9: I think he's also got a quarterback coach in Gunderson
• 59:33
  Speaker 9: that has really.
• 59:34
  Speaker 4: Helped with progression.
• 59:36
  Speaker 9: And I think for me, the biggest difference has been
• 59:41
  Speaker 9: in his leadership style.
• 59:43
  Speaker 4: And that is probably the most.
• 59:46
  Speaker 9: Important in a position where everyone's looking at you You know,
• 59:50
  Speaker 9: how are you going to respond to adversity?
• 59:52
  Speaker 4: How do you attack a stretch, a warm-up? Everything that
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: you do, everyone's watching.
• 59:58
  Speaker 9: And so are you that guy that's owning his 20
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 9: square feet that's being compelling by the way you live
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 9: your life, or are you a guy that is giving
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 9: everyone else an excuse to slack off?
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 4: And he's been fantastic.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: He put up huge numbers last year, but a lot
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: of times he was injured or banged up.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 10: What have you seen from him this fall as a
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 10: healthy quarterback and what are you kind of expecting from.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 12: Him on the field?
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 9: Yeah, you also want to be careful with that because
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 9: if he thinks he's Superman sometimes, that's where the injury
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 9: bug can get you. But I've been very pleased with
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 9: his decision-making, when to check it down, when to stay alive,
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 9: when to take off and run. He's doing a much
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 9: better job of understanding his role as keeping himself healthy
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 9: as well.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 4: You mentioned the 2D.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 12: Are you setting all those, especially your offensive line, your
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 12: five starters?
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 4: There's going to be some rotators game one. Yeah, there
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 4: really is. Because of the injuries and because we haven't
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 4: been able to solidify that. So you'll see some rotation
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: going on.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 9: Both of the defensive lines are more normal because if
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 9: you get into longer drives, guys just get winded. But
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 9: on the offensive side of the ball, you're going to
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 9: probably see some rotators, primarily interiorly.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 7: Morgan, what's a good number.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 6: Of touches for Rayshon Parker, and how would you split
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 6: them up, rushing and possibly receiving?
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 9: It depends on how the game's going. You never know
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 9: in openers, right? You see mistakes being made. So that's
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 9: why I think playing clean, not having turnovers, not having
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 9: those penalties that get you behind the sticks early in
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 9: a drive, So really, it's just going to depend on
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 9: the flow of the game. This is a revenge game, brother. 1993,
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 9: we lost to the Vandals. This is a revenge game.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: We're the only two who remember why.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 10: Marty, you've seen a lot of teams in multiple Pac-12 championships.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 10: You were part of a 2014 that's identity was strong quarterback,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 10: playing strong defense. Now that you've had nine months, or
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 10: maybe eight months still, to kind of see what this
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 10: team's identity is, what do you feel like their biggest
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 10: strengths are so far?
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 9: The strength of the offense is in the number of
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 9: positions that can be threats. I'm so impressed with the
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 9: job that Jordan Gross has done with his front, and that.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 4: Is hopefully going to show itself on Thursday.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 9: So I would say just the amount of threats that
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 9: we have on the offensive side of the ball and
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 9: then on the defensive side of the ball. There's been,
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 9: I think, a chip on everyone's shoulder about the run game,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 9: how we ended it last year. So it's been a
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 9: pretty physical spring and fall camp for us, which is
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 9: why I think you see some of the injuries. But Thankfully,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 9: nothing season-ending. But you need that. You need the scarring.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 9: You need to know you can do it when it matters.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 9: So I'm excited to watch these guys against the run.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 10: With Joshua Woods at Budassism, the Idaho quarterback, how do
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 10: the testers for your defensive line early in the year,
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 10: since obviously they don't get to hit.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: Devin and Bird in practice?
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 9: Really good, because they're not just a team where he
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 9: makes his yards scrambling.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 4: They all have some designed runs for him.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: So.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 9: Much like we've done with Devin. The design runs are
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 9: really the stuff that you've got to pay attention to. Situationally,
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 9: when is that going to happen?
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 7: It does.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 9: When you have a quarterback that is big enough, physical
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 9: enough to be a factor in the run game, you
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 9: have to have a plan for it.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: Coming and preparing for this game, what has been your
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: overall message to the guys this entire fall camp, but
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: especially these next few days?
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 10: What's going to be your message to the guys?
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 9: Just focus on us, on behaving the way we're supposed
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 9: to behave, that culture that we talk about. And every
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 9: position group has a set of behaviors that you're looking
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 9: for that makes them elite in that position. And if
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 9: everyone can just really focus on becoming the best they
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 9: can be at those behaviors, the results should speak for themselves.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 9: So yeah, just focus on us, our culture, and it
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 9: doesn't matter who we're playing.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: Martin, are you comfortable right now with the support you're
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: receiving from the university and the infrastructure around you and
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: who you're reporting to?
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 10: Is all that in place for you right now?
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: Oh, wow.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 4: That came out of left field.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 9: Yes, I'm very blessed with a president that's a Utah
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 9: guy and an AD that is fully supportive.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 4: We have a really good thing going on right now.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 9: Our focus is on these players and on putting the
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 9: best product out there. We have an unbelievable fan base,
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 9: and it's a great time to be a Ute, brother.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: There's been some restructuring elsewhere. I don't know if you've
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: been following the news cycle.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 4: Gotcha. I gotcha. Yeah, very, very happy with what we've got.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 8: Morgan, it seems like there's a ton of versatility all
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 8: around your roster. How much does that afford you as
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 8: a head coach, knowing obviously it has to live out
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 8: on the field, but how much does that afford you,
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 8: and how do you stack that up to maybe prior
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 8: teams that you've been a part of with this team?
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 9: I don't know that I've seen the depth on the
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 9: offensive side of the ball that we have right now.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 4: What you can't do is try and get too cute
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 4: with it.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 9: You really have to hone in on who are the
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 9: top playmakers and who are going to be role players.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 9: You do too much and you never get good at
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 9: one thing. So The trick is being able to do
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 9: the same thing in different personnel groups, the same thing
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 9: with maybe masking it with a shift or a motion,
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 9: and that's.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 4: The beauty of what we have in this offense. Bless you,
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 4: by the way. Don't hold that in, dude. If they're
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 4: not paying rent, you've got to get them out.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 10: You should wear a mask.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 5: Next time.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 7: How important is.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: It in a game like this against an FCS opponent
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: to try to get as many guys game action?
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 9: I never think about that. I never think about that.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 9: Our whole goal is to play the best we can.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 9: Now as the game progresses and we feel like but
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 9: you go into it with that mindset and be prepared
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 9: to be on ESPN for all the wrong reasons.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 4: Every game is our Super Bowl. You got 12 of them.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 9: Don't let No regrets with any of them. You've got
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 9: to go in prepared to win every single one of
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 9: them the right way.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 8: It's such a long build-up to get into these dozen games.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 4: Fall, spring, everything else.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: Do you feel it when you get to game week?
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: A sense from the players and your staff and everybody else?
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 9: Yeah, definitely a sense of excitement. There's also a sense
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 9: of exhaustion, just being done hitting each other. Like, let's go,
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 9: let's Let's get into this thing, and I think we're
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 9: in a good, healthy mix of that right now.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 4: We just want to get out there and play. Hey, thanks, everybody.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 4: Enjoy the rest of the food.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: The food mentioned by Morgan. Is that our guy Spence
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: Check that's trying to stir the pot up there? Asking
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: about an infrastructure question and a, are you happy with
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: your athletic director question?
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: It was hard to hear the questions. I don't know
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: if they've passed the mic around like they've done in
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: years past, or if they were just.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: You know, just shouting, shouting him out. So it's hard
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: to tell if it was Spence, but if it was
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: shout out, it was him. It was him on the,
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: the followup statement. I don't of the, There's been some
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: restructuring elsewhere. I don't know if you've heard that was spent.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know if the question was spent. We're going
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: to have to do a little, a little investigation as
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: we listen that to that back that.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 3: During crosstalk, maybe we'll grill Spence on his grilling of Morgan. Look,
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: this is, it's a game against Idaho guys.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: All right. So what you're getting right there is you're
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: getting your head coach saying the right things, not, not
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: letting any cracks show in the armor and not letting
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: anybody get out over their skis, because this is an
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: Idaho team that already has a game of experience under
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: their belt. This is an Idaho team that has all
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: the rust kind of shaken off from the off season.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: They have a big body quarterback who can run the
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: ball a little bit. They have experienced coaches. They do have,
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: you know, scholarship players. It should not be close against
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: the university of Utah, but Josh would their quarterback last year.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: He completed 18 passes, averaging 14 and a half yards
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: per completion. That is a big, big number. Now, Cal
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: Poly defensively should not be anywhere in the same realm
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: as Utah is defensively. But what it tells you is
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: that this young guy, number three, has some awareness of
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: what he's seeing, especially in the passing game. He's 6'3,
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: he's 215 pounds. Like you heard Morgan saying, he's got
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: some versatility and some athleticism. He also carried the ball
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: 11 times for 42 yards in this game. And teams
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: like Idaho... teams like Utah State that's still coming on
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: the schedule, teams like Arkansas for that matter, but especially
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: game one and game three, you just can't let them
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: get any sort of sense that they belong. Any sort
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: of sense that they can make some good things happen
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: for themselves. We've talked about this over the years so
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: many times that letting a team hang around when they
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: have no business hanging around can get dangerous because you
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: start to get frustrated. Body language becomes an issue. Communication
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: between your players as that frustration mounts becomes an issue.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: Your coaches, as much as they try to stay kind
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: of above it all, they're still human beings. So they
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: start to get frustrated and start to, to break down
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: their own communication with the players. I should say, break
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: down in their own communication with the players and It's
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: a tough thing. If you let Idaho hang around, I
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: don't think that Utah will. I think that the other
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: thing you heard Morgan referencing there, and he was answering
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: questions about this is a team that is sick of
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: hitting each other. This is a team that is sick
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: of being asked all of these questions about, Hey, you're
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: replacing all five offensive linemen. Are you guys going to
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: be able to get any push? Is Devin Dampier going
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: to be protected at all? You've got a bunch of
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: guys on this roster who are looking to make their
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: name at the power level for the first time. If
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: you're Kyrie Shoals, if you are Braden Pagan, if you're
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: any of these individuals that did it at Utah state
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: or did it at San Jose state or did it
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: at North Texas, in the case of like an Ethan day,
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: you had maybe three television games, like actually on ESPN,
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: people are going to watch them. Television games. When you're
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: at those places, you probably never played in front of
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: a truly sold out stadium. And if you did, it
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: was a smaller capacity than what you're going to be
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: playing at in front of Rice Eccles. And my hope
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: is Rice Eccles is a real sellout on Thursday night.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: We know it's going to be a reported sellout. We
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: know that it is a on the books sellout. But
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: we don't know if it's going to be every butt
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: in every seat kind of a sellout. I actually anticipate
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: that maybe it won't be. But you need to start
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: this thing off right. And there's ways, especially at the
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: beginning of the season, that you can win a game
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: and still lose the PR battle. You can lose the
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: enthusiasm of a fan base. You can lose the confidence
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: of the group of guys that are most important, either
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: in your coaching staff or in the locker room with
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: the players. You have to be careful. Or maybe I
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: said that wrong. Maybe you have to make sure you're
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: not careful. You got to go out there and play football.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: And this Morgan Scali coach team, I think that there's
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: going to be growing pains. There's going to be better
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: or worse type moments for him in his first year
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: as the head coach full time. But I don't think
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: that's going to be one of them. I don't think
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: that the problems that some guys have with hesitation, the
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: problem that some guys have with people not 100% knowing
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: their place in the program. I think that those are
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: the growing pains that most programs have to experience that
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: Utah football will not with Morgan Scali at the helm,
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: if that makes sense. I think that his communication style
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: and his leadership as a personality insulate you from some
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: of those same risks that other teams have to deal with.
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  Speaker 1: There are not a lot of guys in this locker
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: room who are questioning whether or not, hey, am I
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: ever going to make it on the field? Am I
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: ever going to get a fair look? Does my coaching
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: staff even give a bleep that I'm on this team?
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: There's going to be other issues, not those ones. And
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: you'll see that, I think, with Ido. He was also asked,
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: whether or not he is thinking about or worries about
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: getting guys on the field, how many guys you want
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: to get reps. And, uh, he, he cautioned almost himself
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: in the, if you worry about that, you're worrying about
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: the wrong thing and you're going to be, you're going
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: to end up on ESPN for all the wrong reasons
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: he knows. And he's making sure his players know that
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: you don't put the cart before the horse. You don't
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: overlook even the Idaho vandals. who lost 38-34 to the
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: Cal Poly Mustangs in Big Sky play last Friday, who
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: gave up almost 500 yards of offense, over 500 yards
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: of offense, excuse me, to Cal Poly. If you don't
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: respect the opponent that you're playing against, you allow that
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: opponent to sneak up on you, you are subconsciously going
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: to play worse far below your actual level. And you're
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: going to waste the reps. This should be a game
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: where your starters have to play into the middle of
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: the third quarter. And they only have to play into
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: the middle of the third quarter because the coaches want
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: to see them get that amount of rep together. After that,
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: you should be playing backups pretty extensively, but the shoulda
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: coulda woulda thing in college football is, has been written
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: over and over and over again. And it's nice to
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: see that Morgan Scali is, well, he's been around long
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: enough to know that you just have to keep your
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: eye on the ball here. There are teams that lost
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: the goodwill of their fan base, even in wins this
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: past weekend. How many explosive run plays do you think
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: USC had? The number 14 ranked USC Trojans, by the way, James,
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: how many explosive run plays do you think USC had
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: against San Jose state in their week one, wake zero
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: game where they won 42 to 26. And it was never,
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: it was never really in doubt. I mean, a valiant effort,
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: I suppose for San Jose state, but they scored 23
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: points against third string players in the fourth quarter USC
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: had Blanked San Jose State in the first half. It
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: was 28-0 going into the half. The Spartans scored three
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: points in the third quarter, and then they put up
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: the rest of their points in the fourth quarter, mounting
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: a fruitless comeback against defensive backups. How many explosive run
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: plays did USC have in their game against San Jose State?
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 5: Two?
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: They had one.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 3: And one, I mean, based on the tone of your voice,
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 3: I was like, it's got to be really low. One
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 3: explosive run play. And weren't we talking about this time
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 3: last year? Weren't we talking about Utah's win over UCLA?
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 3: The only thing that you can quibble with is they
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 3: did not have any explosive plays, right? In that 40-something
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 3: to 10 or whatever it was, blowout of UCLA.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: So that stuff happens, right?
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 3: You would rather it not happen if you're USC against
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 3: a group of six team, San Jose state for sure.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: Oh, excuse me. I was, uh, they had to the,
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: I nailed it. I knew it. The definition of an
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: explosive run play, uh, is different than the definition of
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: an explosive pass play. It's supposed to run plays 10
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: yards or more. Oh, is it really? Yeah. That's a
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: lot lower passes.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: 20. Yes. Yeah.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 3: I guess it's easier to get more yardage from pass
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 3: than run.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: They gave up more explosive run plays to a San
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: Jose state rushing team that only finished with 102 yards
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: on the ground than they had. So not only were
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: there like 19 people in the stands when USC took
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: on San Jose state, And it's funny to see the
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: LA sports fans try to defend that and try to
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: apologize for that and rage at all of us folks
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: in Utah who are like, couldn't be us. Can't imagine.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: Did you have schools not even in yet? So like, well,
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: it was hot. We're in a heat wave. You guys,
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: we have a beach too. So people would rather go there. Okay.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 3: I've never heard you use that voice before.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: That was incredible. If you ever lived in LA, dude,
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: it's hard to get places. I'm not getting in the
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: car for an hour to go watch Saturday state, bro.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 3: By the way, underrated part of this matchup. It was
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 3: a Troy versus Spartan. Spartans versus Trojans. Shout out to
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 3: the Odyssey and Troy.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: USC did the thing that you don't want to see
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: Utah do. And look, it's disrespectful to have this stance
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: about San Jose state because San Jose state is a
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: division one football team. They're they're not on the same
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: level as USC. No one expects them to be on
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: the same level as USC, but like they got a
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: bunch of scholarship players. They might have a guy with
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: an IL deal or two, right? If you don't demolish them,
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: embarrass them, Molly, whop them in a way that sends
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: this part. And you kind of did, but still you
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: didn't do it convincingly enough, explosively enough, impressively enough to,
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: to meet the expectation of what really more your media
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: than your fan base. Because I don't know if there
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: is a USC Trojan fan base, not a real one,
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: not a hardcore one. When you're talking about a San
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: Jose state game, there is fair weather as it gets in.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: You understand why multiple national championships, you got world series
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: baseball teams in your home market. You got the number
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: one Most talked about NFL team in your market right now.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 3: So, and you know, when the Lakers are good, which
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 3: is seldom right now, you got the Lakers too.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: So this, this is the old, this is the, the
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: USC thing that happened against San Jose state is my concern.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: If that's the right word for it for Utah against
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: Idaho on Thursday night, I don't think Idaho's got a
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: chance against Utah. Morgan can't say that when Devin Dampier
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: joins us this week, he can't say that. Are we
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: doing Colton Swan for coordinator's corner? We are doing Colton.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 3: So I almost forgot about that coordinator's corner starting this week.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 3: And that's going to typically be one o'clock on Fridays,
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 3: but because it's a Thursday or a Thursday game, that's
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 3: going to be at one on Wednesday with the new
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 3: defensive coordinator, your buddy Colton Swan.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: Okay. So Colton Swan is not going to say these
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: guys don't have a chance against us. They can't say
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: that they can't think that way. I can because What
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: I say and do has zero bearing on whether or
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: not Utah wins a football game. I don't think Idaho's
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: got a chance in hell. What I do think, though,
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: is that there is a risk that Utah, without looking hyper-dominant,
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: without coming out, especially with the run game that we
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: think is going to be so potent... without coming out
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: and rolling over Idaho and embarrassing Idaho, I think that
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: the reaction for Utah fans and for the Utah media,
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: because I'm a member of them, is going to be like, well,
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: wait a second. Why didn't they look better than this? That's,
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: I think, the risk here for Utah. And we'll define
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: as the week goes on what success really looks like.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: For players and coaches, it's just a victory. It's just
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: a win. For everyone who's going to be judging from afar,
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: you want a 40-point win. You want a five-touchdown win.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: That's what you want. I don't know how realistic it is.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: It's what I want. I don't know how realistic it is.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: I want penalty-free football. Morgan Scali talked about that in
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: the press conference, which you can find at ESPN700Sports. com and
• 1:22:18
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• 1:22:22
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• 1:22:25
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• 1:23:19
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• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: not yet heard about. I'm going to start with one
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: that's just supremely positive and a feel-good story. Because I'm
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: malcontent and I complain sometimes too much. This is amazing.
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: Have you seen... You probably have seen this. Here's a
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: gift idea for your lovely wife. Does she wear hats,
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: by the way? No, Bryn's not a hat person. Not
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: a hat person? Okay, maybe it won't be perfect. Maybe
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: they'll do a t-shirt version of this. Do you know
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: what the Billustration hat is? Have you heard about this?
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: I have not. Okay, so your guy Joshie, Josh Allen. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: He and his wife have decided. I love that you
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: call him Joshy now. He and his wife have decided
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: that their main charitable thing is this children's hospital in Buffalo,
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: New York. I forget what it's called. Hold on. It's
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: the Golisano Children's Hospital of Buffalo. He has spent a
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: lot of his own personal time. He has donated a
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: lot of his own money. to this hospital. And it's,
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: you know, there's a really strong bond and relationship with
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: Josh Allen and the children here. It's, it's the Buffalo
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: New York version of primary children's hospital. They do wonderful
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: life-saving work for kids with life-threatening illnesses. And it's lovely
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: to see an NFL player, not only like write the check,
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: but he spends time. He goes and sees the kids.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: He brings them to games, things like that. Well, he
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: is now a, partnered with New Era, the hat company,
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: to make eight hats available on the New Era website
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: and at stores and wherever they have Bill's merchandise, like
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: at Highmark Stadium. The Patricia Allen Fund at Golisano Children's
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: Hospital of Buffalo is where this money is filtered through.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: And these hats are awesome. What they did is they
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: had kids who were patients at the hospital do drawings,
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: do illustrations. And those are now embroidered on these hats.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: And some of them are Bill's colors. Other ones are
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: not Bill's colors. And the best part is, James, did
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: you pull it up? I did. These are fantastic. We
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: all know what the Buffalo Bill's logo looks like, right?
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: It's that sort of side profile of a bison, of
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: a buffalo, with the coming off the horn like the
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: stripe that goes right through the middle of the buffalo. Yeah,
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: the red stripe. The red stripe. It's kind of a
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: cool logo, right?
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: Clearly they had some kid draw their interpretation, their version
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: of the, of the, the Buffalo logo. And that is
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: the logo on these hats. And it looks exactly like
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: a three-year-old or a four-year-old or a five-year-old drawing the
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: Buffalo bills logo. It's like a little bit too chubby.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: The proportions are a little bit wrong. It's adorable. It's awesome.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: I can't stand the bills, but I would consider buying
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: one of these hats because a How adorable. B, proceeds
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: go to benefit the children's hospital.
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it goes to a great cause. And C, you
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 3: kind of want to like the Bills. Anyway, no, this,
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 3: if you're, just to describe it, it looks more like
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 3: a warthog than a buffalo.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: Fair.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 3: That kind of, you talk about the proportions being wrong.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 3: It's wrong in that way. And by the way, this
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 3: is about as good, if not better, than I could
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 3: draw the bills.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. No critique.
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I only said that to describe, people haven't seen
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 3: it yet, listen to the radio, as they're trying to
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 3: picture what this might look like. It looks, I would say,
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 3: warthog-ish with the red stripe on there, which it's fantastic,
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 3: very cute. It looks like on the side there's a different...
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 3: like side patch logo that these kids have drawn to, um,
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 3: a couple of them have mountains on them.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: Um, there's one that looks like a golf club. There's
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: one that is clearly a set of lungs, like human lungs. Yeah.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 3: Maybe they're in for some kind of lung treatment and
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 3: shout out to these kids. Um, I know they're not
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 3: listening in Buffalo, but like keep fighting.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: You never know.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 3: This is, uh, this is cool for Josh Allen, uh,
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 3: to be doing this to benefit these kids, and we
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 3: just hope that these kids can keep fighting and can
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 3: survive these things. Child illness, cancer, whatever it is, terminal
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 3: illness or potentially terminal illness, the most unfair thing in
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 3: the world, and it sucks that it happens, but it's
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 3: awesome that people like Josh.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: Allen want to help him out. Well done for the Bills,
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: for New Era Hats, for Josh Allen, who will be
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: wearing these. That's another thing. like there are actually hyper
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: strict rules in the nfl on what you're allowed to
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: wear as a player on the sidelines when you're in
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: uniform down to the hats your wristbands your socks have
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: to be a certain way all that stuff and he's
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: going to be wearing these things on the sideline which
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: means one of two things either the nfl is getting
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: out of their own way and letting a good cause
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: be a good cause or new era has decided we'll
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: pay the fine. If you get a fine or whatever,
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: which would almost make for better story, but That's cool
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: that he's he's going to be wearing these hats on
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: the sideline for real, which means they're like official Buffalo
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: Bills gear. So I hope we see some of his
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: other teammates do it, too, because this is their cool hats.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: Even without the proceed, if you had just said, I
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: found a kid that I think is cool. And I said,
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: you know what?
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 3: Just to be funny, I want you to draw like
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 3: NBA paint style on Twitter. I want you to draw
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 3: a Buffalo Bills logo because I'm going to put it
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 3: on an actual hat. I mean, I would still buy
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 3: it because it's.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: Cool and it's kind of funny.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 3: It's even better that these are kids who are actually
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 3: patients in this hospital and the proceeds go to them.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: You love to see it. Great story from Buffalo. Here
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: is a story that's kind of at the opposite end
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: of the spectrum of altruism and feel-good and giving nature.
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: And it's one, unfortunately, I can relate to a lot
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: more closely. Did you see what Derek Scooble did when
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: he was traded to the Dodgers? Yeah, something to do
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: with espresso machine. He had purchased an espresso machine for
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: the locker room. Didn't endear himself. And this espresso machine
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: is like a high-quality espresso machine. It's hard to say.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: Espresso machine. Yeah. Espresso machine. Speaker 0 5th. It's a little,
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: little Todd Fritz going on. Scooble had purchased this espresso
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: machine and it was in the clubhouse. And he decided
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: that when he got traded, he was going to take
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: it with them. This is a little bit of a
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: spite store kind of a situation. So he bought one
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: for the tiger's clubhouse. It was in the tiger's clubhouse.
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: He gets, he says, this is mine. I'm taking it
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: to LA. He gets traded to LA. Now I, he
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: wanted to be traded to LA, right? I mean, who
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: wouldn't want to be traded to the best team in
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: the league. This wasn't one of those situations where he
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: was just like, please don't trade me Dodgers. And they
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: traded him anyway. So he was like, you know what? Fine.
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: I'm taking my espresso machine with me, which tells you
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: the level of parsimonious spending that this guy is into.
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: If you're like, Hey, that was an expensive, expensive machine.
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: I'm taking it with me. If they traded you against
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: your will, I'm in support. If you're getting to go
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: to LA and you're now, instead of being in Detroit,
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  Speaker 1: you're in Southern California. I don't love Southern California the
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  Speaker 1: way that a lot of people do, but it's better
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: than Detroit. Okay. If you're getting to go, like at
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: that point, you say to your teammates in the Detroit clubhouse,
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: all right, guys, I'm off to 88 degree weather all
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: year round. Possibly or probably a world series ring. Most
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: likely a world series at some point. And most likely
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: more money than I would ever make here because that's
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: how LA does things. I'm going to leave you the
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: espresso machine. Instead, he took the thing with him. That
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: is just hilarious. He said he was asked about it
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: and he said, I'll wear it because people would be like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'll wear it. I did buy it. But so he
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: bought the machine. He's taking it with him.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I, I, I hear you on the, he probably
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 3: wasn't traded against his will to the Dodgers. Like he
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 3: probably was excited to join the Dodgers. I will just
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 3: say Detroit was the only organization he'd ever been with
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 3: as far as I know. And he won a Cy
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 3: Young and he brought them back into prominence over the
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 3: last couple of seasons. Not, where they're winning anything in
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 3: the playoffs, but being a playoff team at the very least.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 3: Maybe he was just so fond of being there, despite
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 3: it not being a realistic spot to win a World Series,
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 3: or he was actually mad that he was leaving, even
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 3: going to the Dodgers.
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  Speaker 1: I find that hard to believe, though. Spencer Torkelson, who
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: is the Tigers' first baseman, said he couldn't believe it
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  Speaker 1: that Scooble took the machine with him. And it said,
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: that was a really good espresso machine. I actually really
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: liked it. They had it set up alongside a coffee
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: grinder in the locker between Justin Verlander and Tarek Scooble's
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: spring training lockers.
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  Speaker 3: So between the greatest pitcher, possibly one of the greatest
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 3: players in your franchise's history and the current best pitcher
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 3: in your franchise, just, just, just right in between them.
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  Speaker 1: That's fantastic. He also blamed his wife for this, which
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: is so fantastic. She, she really wanted it in LA.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: He said, that was my wife. I wanted to leave
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: it and get a new one, but she wouldn't let me.
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: My wife was like, that was too expensive to just
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 1: run the charge back. What are you talking about?
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  Speaker 4: It's not too.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: Expensive for you. You know that we are multimillionaires, right? Honey,
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: like we're fine.
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  Speaker 3: That's that's she's like, but do you know how the
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 3: deal with the taxes are in California, dude?
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 1: Do you know? Do you know what? Okay. Do you
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: know what he's making this year? Do you know what? Terrence?
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 1: $ 32 million. She's like, how much of that state of
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: California going to take for us at the end of
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: the year though? Okay. Tarek most expensive espresso machine in
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: the world. It's got to be an Italian one, right?
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: Given that it's an espresso machine. Okay. The most expensive
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: commercial and custom espresso setups on the market can cost
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: anywhere from $ 30, 000. to over a million for ultra-rare custom-built
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: or jewel-encrusted concept machines. Jewel-encrusted. This was not one of those.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 3: This was not a million-dollar one. It was probably tens
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 3: of thousands-dollar one.
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: Okay, so there's the Eversys Shotmaster or the Enigma series.
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: Those are $ 39, 000 to $ 46, 000. That's crazy. The San Remo
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 1: Opera 2... Has multi-boiler stability and distinct industrial design. Shout out.
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 1: It's a Group 3 commercial machine. It's listed for $ 41, 500. So, hey,
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: should we get a new car or an espresso machine, hon?
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: Here's the thing. Oh, wow, this is a fancy one.
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 1: The La Marzocco KB90. Two group AV with scales espresso machine, $ 32, 580.
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: So they can really get up there.
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: However, if you make 36 million, what did I say?
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: 36 or 32? 32 million. If you make $ 32 million,
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: you could.
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 3: Buy another $ 30, 000 espresso machine. You absolutely can. You can
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 3: leave that for your teammates in Detroit. Spencer Torkelson doesn't
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 3: have to say publicly, oh, man, that kind of sucks.
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: I really like that. Really nice espresso machine. But let's
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 1: just take a moment and acknowledge how wonderful it is
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 1: that there is a professional athlete. making $ 32 million a
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 1: year in salary and being traded to the Dodgers where
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 1: he is going to make more and more and more.
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: And he's going to be a $ 50 million a year
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 1: type guy. Do a lot of winning. Let's just appreciate that.
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: He is married to someone who's just like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: Let's not waste money. Let's not waste money here as
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 1: a very good thing. Absolutely. Isn't that wonderful?
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  Speaker 12: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I think, I think he's probably His teammates are mad
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: at him for taking the machine, but if your wife
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: is going to be mad at you for leaving the machine,
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: I didn't realize that I was going to be taking
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: this stance today, James. I was going to come on
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  Speaker 1: here and kind of make fun of Scooble, especially because
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 1: he's a Dodger now. But he chose to let his
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: teammates make fun of him in the group chat and
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: the media to kind of write some snide remarks about him.
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: but maintain peace in the home. This is probably the
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 1: right decision.
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 3: Did he maintain peace in the home though? See, because
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 3: she's like, you're getting out. You're just going to blame
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 3: it on me publicly like that. You can't just take
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 3: responsibility for it.
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: It's a great point. He probably just probably just destroyed
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: all the goodwill he had earned by listening to her,
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: by throwing her under the bus and be like, it
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: was my wife. It's not me. It's my wife, guys.
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 3: My wife's the one do that in the group chat
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 3: with your teammates. Maybe don't do that in front of
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 3: the reporters, but you know, maybe she's, maybe she's like, yeah,
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 3: you're damn right.
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: It was me. Because she's proud of being a little
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: frugal that way, which she should be. What model was
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: the Scooble espresso machine? I'm doing some real work on it.
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: Some investigative journalism. Has not been publicly specified. All right.
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: We need someone in Michigan. I need someone from that
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: clubhouse to give me a photo of what espresso machine
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 1: this was. If it was bedazzled with diamonds and jewels. Okay.
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 1: That's over a million dollars. We're talking about a million dollars.
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 1: By the way, if you have a million dollars to
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 1: spend on an espresso machine, you better be a billionaire. Like,
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 1: give me a break. Do you think it was made
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: out of panda? Not endangered anymore, by the way. Did
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 1: you know that? Hey, shout out to the pandas. Let's
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 1: go on the comeback trail. Let's go, pandas. Uh, real quick.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: Did you see the jazz made a trade over the weekend? Yeah.
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 1: But are you actually trying to throw a real story
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 1: into the daily dump? Like a real sports story? I mean, sure.
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 3: This was, this was a shocking over the weekend news
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 3: dump for me. I did not expect the jazz to
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 3: be making any other roster additions. Oh, see, And I
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 3: think they came out on the right side of it.
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 1: Let's let's take a break. Let's talk about the trade.
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 1: Cause it is a real sports story, not an espresso
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 1: machine story. We'll talk about the jazz trade from over
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: the weekend. Next. That's your daily dump. This is the
• 1:39:05
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• 1:39:27
  Speaker 1: It is football season, and yet we have some jazz
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: news to talk about. A Utah Jazz trade over the weekend. James...
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: Let's see what we got here. Josh green and cash
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 1: to the Utah jazz for Cody Williams and John conchar,
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 1: Josh green coming from the Minnesota timber wolves.
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 3: So he was just traded to the T wolves himself
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 3: in the lamello ball trade earlier this off season. So
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 3: technically did not play a game for the T wolves.
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 3: It's a, it's a Russell Westbrook situation for Josh green.
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: And the tools. Now he's, now he's coming over to the,
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: from the jazz.
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 3: I think the jazz come out on the right side
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 3: of this. So see, I, it may be a little
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 3: bit controversy for some jazz fans around here to say
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 3: that because Cody Williams was a top 10 pick and
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 3: he certainly still has a lot of potential, but he's,
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 3: it was this three years in and the best he's
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 3: played has been in the G league to be with
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 3: all due respect. And he had one or two really
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 3: good games in Summer League this year, but he's left
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 3: a lot more to be desired than the games that
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 3: he's done really well in. So Josh Green is not
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 3: the best defender in the league by any means, but
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 3: he's a guy who's an established NBA rotation player, and
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 3: you're getting rid of two guys who are not to
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 3: get him.
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 1: I think this is.
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 3: I think the Jazz come out on the right side
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 3: of this, a nice younger guy coming into more veteran
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 3: experience who plays some defense on the perimeter, can shoot
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 3: the three a little bit.
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 1: I think this is a good move by the Jazz.
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: Green makes about $ 15 million, just under $ 15 million a year.
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: Minnesota had to move him off their cap so they
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 1: could complete their signing of Jonathan Kuminga, who, let's see,
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 1: he got a two-year– oh, no. Yeah, a two-year $ 12. 4
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: million deal. Did he turn down like a $ 50 million
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 1: deal earlier?
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, before he went to the Hawks, the Warriors last year,
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 3: remember the drama with his restricted free agency with his
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 3: current team at that time, the Warriors, they were not
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 3: willing to do more than $ 20 million a year. And
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 3: he thought, hey, I should command more money than that,
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 3: which he was. definitely wrong about, and now he's settling
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 3: for a lot less than that on a multi-year deal
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 3: with probably a better team, a team that's going to
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 3: be better than the Warriors this year and the T-Wolves, though,
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 3: at the very least.
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 1: But I think that the T-Wolves net out well with that, too.
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 3: Kamingo over Josh Green, but both teams probably got what
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 3: they needed with both those moves.
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 1: It was a... It was a three year extension with
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 1: the warriors for $ 75 million that he turned down and
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: he wanted over 30, I think, which was just very
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 1: tone deaf of him and his representation at that 20,
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: turning down 25 million and ending up with six per year.
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: If you turn down 25, you ended up playing for
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: a better team and you make like 19 or 20,
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: that would still hurt, but you're just like, okay, but
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 1: I might get another ring here. This might be like
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 1: better for my career longterm. To end up with a
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: fraction of that offer is, I mean, this is your job.
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: And obviously the windows on this are remarkably tight, especially
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 1: in the NFL and the NBA. Guys like Jonathan Kaminga
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: probably aren't playing two decades in the league. That sucks.
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: That hurts. By all means, I'm sure he's enthusiastic and
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 1: excited to sign with Minnesota, but And that's great. You
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 1: also then have to fire your representatives who allowed you
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 1: to walk away from 75 million in golden state.
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 3: Well, this got circulated too. It reminds you of Dennis Schroeder.
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 3: A few years ago was he was offered what? 20
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 3: million a year over four years. I think it was,
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 3: or 20 something million. It was a four year deal,
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 3: 80 something million total. He ended up a year later,
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 3: signing with the Celtics or getting traded to sign and
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 3: trade with the Celtics for like 5 million. It just, man,
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 3: that is, that is not a good trade off by you.
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 3: At least Schroeder is still playing the league now, now
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 3: four or five years later and still making money. But
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 3: that was the best money he would have made a
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 3: near the best money he would have made on any
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 3: contract in his career. And he's like, no, I'm actually
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 3: worth way more than that. And it turns out, no,
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 3: you weren't Dennis Schroeder. Same thing with Jonathan Kaminga here recently.
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 1: It's very, very tough. But the Utah Jazz with Josh
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 1: Green sending Conchart and Williams. Conchart is expected to be
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 1: waved and stretched. They do the wave and stretch where
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 1: they push your guaranteed salary out over a few seasons.
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 1: So you wave with your hand and you stretch with
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 1: your arms?
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 2: Is that.
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 1: Minnesota expected to keep Cody Williams bouncing back and forth
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 1: from their Big League and G League roster potentially. All right.
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 3: He at least could be a nice depth piece for
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 3: them as the wing, and maybe they do a better
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 3: job of– he does a better job of developing under
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 3: their coaching staff than what the Jazz were able to
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 3: get out of him. I hope that's the case because
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 3: a lot of potential liked him in college at Colorado,
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 3: just didn't quite develop quickly enough for the Jazz to
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 3: be like, yeah, we want you long term.
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 1: All right. Got to take a break. Our number three
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 1: begins with Utah running back legend Zach Moss, who it
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: was announced officially last week, is a member of the
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: Utah radio broadcast team this year. We'll discuss all of
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 1: it in an upcoming matchup against Idaho with Zach Moss
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 1: next on the Sean O'Connell Show, ESPN 700 and 92.1 FM.
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  Speaker 7: You're tuned to.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to our number three here on the Sean O'Connell Show.
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 1: Time to catch up with Zach Moss. The Utah football legend,
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 1: the NFL veteran, and as we learned last week, officially
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 1: the sideline reporter on Utah football radio broadcasts that you
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 1: can hear right here on ESPN 700, your home of
• 1:46:29
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  Speaker 1: Zach Moss, welcome back to the show. How are you, sir?
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  Speaker 2: Good, guys.
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 5: How are you doing?
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: Doing all right. So, look, we were waiting on the announcement.
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 1: It came out after Monday's show last week. you, Sly,
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 1: Bill Riley on the call officially this year. Tell me
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 1: your feelings, your thoughts on taking on this new role.
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Super excited about it. You know, get a chance
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 5: to Continue to stay around the game in a different way.
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 5: Got some guys that have been doing it for some
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 5: years now, for a long time, that I get a
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 5: chance to learn from and things of that nature. So
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 5: super excited to be with that crew. Super lucky to
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 5: be with that crew. And just looking forward to a
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 5: lot of wins so there's going to be a lot
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 5: of great reporting.
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 1: So obviously Thursday night will be the first rollout. You've
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 1: got Idaho coming in to Rice Echo Stadium, and we've
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 1: been talking about expectations and things like that all preseason long.
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 1: Now game week is here. What is your main focus?
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 1: What are the things you're going to be looking for
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 1: from this first matchup on Thursday night?
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 5: The biggest thing I'm looking forward to, I think we
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 5: talked about it last time, is the offensive line. I
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 5: think that has to be the main staple of this
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 5: team to do what they want to do, right? You know,
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 5: the offense and the defense, you know, the trenches, the
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 5: game is won on the offensive line and the defensive line.
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 5: both sides of the ball will go as those guys
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 5: up front do. So the skills players, you know, we
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 5: aren't able to do much without having a good group
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 5: in front of us, you know, paving the way for us.
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 5: So my eyes would be definitely on the offensive line
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 5: to see, you know, they can do versus this team
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 5: coming in.
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 1: I know it's never the exact same result from matchups
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 1: when you've got different teams coming in and week to
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 1: week things change in college football. Idaho on Friday night
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 1: played against Cal Poly. They ended up losing 38-34 to
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 1: on a comeback, come from behind, touchdown by Cal Poly.
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 1: And watching a little bit of that and trying to
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 1: get a sense of what Utah was going to face
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 1: from Idaho in their first test of the season, the
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 1: Vandals' defense gave up a lot of yardage to this
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 1: Cal Poly offense. And I don't want to disrespect Cal Poly,
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 1: I don't want to disrespect Idaho, but it should be
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 1: even more of a mismatch when Idaho comes into Rice-Eccles
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 1: Stadium and takes on a Utah team that is bigger, stronger, faster,
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 1: et cetera, than Cal Poly. Uh, given what we saw
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 1: from Idaho, over 500 yards of offense surrender, does it
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 1: change the totals that we're looking for from Utah? That sound,
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 1: I believe was Zach Moss's phone disconnecting from this conversation.
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 1: So we'll do our best to get him back on, but, uh,
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 1: A little disconnect there. I think Zach dropped. James will
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 1: reconnect us potentially. The question I think is, well, okay,
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 1: Zach Moss is back. Sorry, Zach, we got disconnected there.
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 1: I don't know how much of the question you heard,
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 1: but It was effectively, you know, Idaho gave up a
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 1: lot to Cal Poly. Does that mean we need to
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 1: see more from Utah against this same Idaho defense?
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 5: I wouldn't say we need to see more. I think
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 5: it depends on what we see, right? If we come
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 5: out in the first quarter and we're struggling, kind of
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 5: how we did last year in those early games where,
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 5: you know, the offense kind of stalled a little bit,
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 5: you know, then maybe. But I think if things get
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 5: off to... to the right foot, we see some explosive plays.
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 5: You know, this game is mainly trying to build off
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 5: of things, right, and get ready and polish up some
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 5: things and seeing how these plays are going to look
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 5: for live games. Same with McGivens calling the offense and
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 5: Coach Swan on the defensive side, right? This is these
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 5: guys' first time with this group calling live action plays.
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 5: So it's all about getting the rhythm and seeing what
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 5: works for themselves and what doesn't work more so than,
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 5: you know, what the yardage can tell. So I'm looking
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 5: more underneath the hood of, you know, What's the detail
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 5: look like? How is Dampier getting off of the line
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 5: up to the ball? Are we checking things? Are we
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 5: seeing certain things at the line of scrimmage? Are we
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 5: making explosive plays? You know, that's the biggest thing that
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 5: I want to see because that's the stuff that is
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 5: going to go a long way when you get into
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 5: those conference games, right? It's Idaho, so, you know, not
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 5: many people are going to– care about the stats.
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 5: Cause I know if I was playing versus Idaho, uh,
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 5: as a foreign player, you know, you don't look at
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 5: the numbers. You'd look at the, how you, how you
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 5: did the operations. .
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 1: The game
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 1: was sealed for North Carolina on an offside penalty by
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 1: a TCU defensive lineman. And, of course, when you're a
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 1: coach and you're a player, you want your first outing
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 1: to be cleaner than what we saw from TCU. How
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 1: do you actually achieve that, though, Zach? Like, what is
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 1: the key in playing clean football when you haven't really been,
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 1: you know, you haven't been live action for months and
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 1: months now?
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 5: I think the main thing is the maturity of the players.
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 5: I think obviously everyone understands that you can't really simulate
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 5: a game. That's very, very hard to do. But the
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 5: really good coaches do the absolute best job they can
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 5: do to put you into the situations that you're probably
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 5: going to be in a lot of times when it
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 5: comes to the game day. So depending on how you
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 5: script practice and things of that nature, trying to get
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 5: you as much of a game feel as possible. So
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 5: that way, when you get to the game, right. And
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 5: you're in a third and 12, right. You know, essentially
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 5: how you want to operate, right. You've already kind of
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 5: done it, even though it was in a practice situation, right.
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 5: The game is all mental. So, but it ultimately comes
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 5: down to the maturity, right. Like I said, so the
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 5: coaches can do all of that, but, it comes down
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 5: to the players holding each other accountable, right? That's why
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 5: I said I want to see the operations. We'll see
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 5: the detail, right? See how Dan Pierre is getting these guys,
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 5: the leadership, essentially, how that all is going to come
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 5: together because this game is the type of game that
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 5: you schedule. This is why they schedule these games early
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 5: in the year so that way you can get certain things,
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 5: get those wrinkles out of the way and kind of
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 5: get this thing ironed out.
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 1: How would you describe the difference between FCS players matchups with,
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 1: you know, a big sky opponent like Idaho is versus
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 1: what you see from a power conference opponent, like in
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 1: your case, PAC 12, in this case, big 12 players. I,
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 1: I played at the big sky level and I was
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 1: on the Utah team. Uh, but when we were Mount
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 1: West conference team and to me, the biggest difference on
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 1: those two levels is always in the trenches and maybe
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 1: a little bit of speed in the back end as well.
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 1: Running backs and linebackers are usually about the same size
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 1: at both levels, but more explosive, obviously, at the power level.
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 1: When you played against the lower-level teams, what was your
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 1: experience as a running back? Were the tackles easier to break?
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 1: Were the guys a step and a half slower? You
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 1: characterize for me what the biggest difference is.
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 5: That's a great question. You know, I think when I
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 5: played against those type of schools, you know, I never.
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 5: Looked at it like that. Honestly, you know, as a player,
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 5: I never looked at it like that because, you know,
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 5: I think anybody who's ever to go play collegiate sports
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 5: on any level is a pretty decent athlete, right? But
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 5: I think what comes down to me is, like you said,
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 5: you know, obviously the main thing is the trenches for sure, right?
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 5: I think, you know, it's a big gap there. Absolutely.
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 5: The skill positions, you know, it varies, like you said,
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 5: but I think it comes down to details, details and fundamentals, right?
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 5: Like I knew that this game I couldn't possibly hit
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 5: some of these 40, 50 yard runs. because someone's going
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 5: to get out of a gap. Someone's going to be undisciplined, right?
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 5: I know that the coaching may not be at the
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 5: same level that, you know, our guys are that when
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 5: we go against them, right? Like the level of detail
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 5: is different, right? That's why these coaches are also at
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 5: the different levels as well, just as the players. So, um,
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 5: you know, we always know we can get bigger plays,
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 5: bigger splash plays and things of that nature. And you
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 5: would try certain things like that just because of, uh,
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 5: you know, details, fundamentals, and guys being in the right
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 5: place over and over and over.
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 1: Uh, again, Zach Moss, our guests here on the Sean
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 1: O'Connell show. He will be on the sidelines on the
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 1: radio broadcast on Thursday night as Utah takes on Idaho
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 1: in the season opener. Uh, we are expecting, you know,
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 1: like the starters potentially could be out of this game
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. You want it to be, you know,
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 1: a four or five touchdown lead and you get the backups,
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 1: a few reps and things like that as the starter
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 1: who was maybe going to get the rest in the
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 1: third and fourth quarter in the second half, depending on
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 1: how big it was. How many times did that happen
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 1: in your career at Utah? And maybe more importantly in
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 1: How did you feel about it? Because you have these
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 1: limited opportunities to actually play in games. You're putting in
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 1: all this work and you're trying to pile up stats
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 1: and score touchdowns and things like that. And obviously you're
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 1: happy if your team's winning in a blowout fashion, but
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 1: do you want to come off the field? How did
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 1: it feel when you had those opportunities?
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it definitely happened a few times when I was
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 5: up at the U. You know, I think in the
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 5: moment you... when you're doing it and you have these
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 5: big wins, um, and you get taken out of the third,
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 5: fourth quarter or something like that.
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 5: Um, in the moment it feels good, right. Cause you're
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 5: not risking injury anymore.
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 5: You're not risking certain things that can come with playing
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 5: a full game.
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 5: Um, but you know, now when you look back at it, like, man,
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 5: I wish I would have ended up getting that those,
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 5: that the rest of that second half in there.
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 12: Right.
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 5: Uh, you know, I, I, one of the games that
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 5: comes to my mind is, uh, We played Oregon State
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 5: in 2019, and one of my buddies that I know,
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 5: he played for Oregon State, and I saw him recently,
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 5: and he's like, hey, you had like 200 yards or
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 5: something like that, 150-plus yards in the first quarter, essentially,
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 5: and you didn't play anymore after the second half. And
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 5: I'm like, man, that could have been, you know, essentially
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 5: a 200 plus 300 possible type of a game. Right.
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 5: So you never know. But in the moment, you're doing
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 5: the right thing, right? The name of the game is
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 5: to win. And, you know, you try to be a
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 5: team player as much as you can, and you try
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 5: to do your work when you get the opportunities. And
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 5: when the opportunities is you've done a great job in
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 5: your opportunities and the team has done a great job,
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 5: you know, it's time to come off the field sometimes
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 5: and allow other guys who also have done a lot
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 5: of work throughout the week to get some shine there.
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 1: I want to ask you a couple NFL questions here.
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 1: Cut down day happened yesterday in the NFL. And look,
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 1: it's a it's a cold business. You're more acutely aware
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 1: of that than I ever will be having played in
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 1: the league. What is that day like for guys that
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 1: are trying to make a roster and either they get
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 1: the call? Hey, you made the 53 man or vice versa. When,
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 1: you know, go clean out your locker. Thanks for your work.
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 1: Or maybe we'll see on the practice squad. If you can,
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 1: tell me what it's like for those guys on cut
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 1: down day.
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I can give you my best shot
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 5: at it. You know, because a lot of those some
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 5: guys that have been in that position, you know, I've
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 5: been I was close with while we were playing and
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 5: things like that. It's tough, you know, because like you said,
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 5: we just said, you know, you do all this work.
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 5: You train every single day in the offseason. You try
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 5: to do every single thing to put yourself in a
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 5: position to where you can have success and hopefully make
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 5: that roster. And sometimes, like you said, it is a
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 5: business first. Sometimes I've seen players who are probably better
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 5: than another guy not be able to play over that
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 5: guy just because of uh, you know, the money tied
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 5: up in a guy, right. Um, and a lot of
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 5: guys have fallen victim to that, um, and vice versa. Um, so,
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 5: you know, it's hard for sure. You know, you know,
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 5: but a lot of those guys do get opportunity, you know, to,
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 5: to go somewhere else and get on the practice squad
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 5: and you never know. Um, you're always an injury away
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 5: on when you're on a practice squad of possibly getting
• 2:00:16
  Speaker 5: called up and seizing your opportunity. Um, but, Yeah, it's
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 5: a tough world for sure to be in that space
• 2:00:25
  Speaker 5: and not know, right? Think about how hard it is
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 5: to go play football, physical, mental, emotional toll, and then
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 5: still at the end of the day not know, right,
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 5: if you're going to make the three-man roster. Or, you know,
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 5: sometimes guys know, right, a week before, two weeks before,
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 5: just if they haven't been playing, performing well, that, man,
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 5: I'm just, you know, I'm getting up. I'm not going
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 5: to make this roster anymore. I don't know where I'm
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 5: going to be in the next two weeks, three weeks.
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 5: I don't know if I'm going to even be playing
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 5: football or do I need to transition and look for
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 5: something else in the coming months here.
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 1: If you were preparing to run against a Los Angeles
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 1: Rams defensive front that now includes Miles Garrett and Aaron
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 1: Donald on the same D-line, what does that game planning
• 2:01:18
  Speaker 1: look like behind your offensive line in the NFL? Because
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 1: Aaron Donald, we've been speculating on it for weeks. He
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 1: made it official this past weekend. He is returning to
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 1: the Rams on a one-year deal.
• 2:01:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that is not fun for any opposing offensive line
• 2:01:35
  Speaker 5: and anybody who has to get hit by either one
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 5: of those two guys. I played against both, you know,
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 5: obviously both generational talents. That goes without saying. Absolute game wreckers.
• 2:01:49
  Speaker 5: I don't know. How you game plan is hard to
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 5: just game plan for.
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 4: One guy, right? And I've been in those meetings.
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 5: Where we're trying to game plan for each one of
• 2:02:01
  Speaker 5: those guys, right, on their respective teams, right? And that
• 2:02:05
  Speaker 5: changes every single thing you do if you're trying to
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 5: get game plan for one of them. So now you
• 2:02:10
  Speaker 5: get both of them, which is just– Crazy to think about,
• 2:02:15
  Speaker 5: but I think the main thing people forget about with
• 2:02:18
  Speaker 5: that defense is that, you know, I think even without
• 2:02:22
  Speaker 5: Aaron Donald, they were going to be top five. You know,
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 5: even last year, that defensive line was really, really, really good, right?
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 5: A lot of young players, and they performed really well,
• 2:02:32
  Speaker 5: which is why they made it to where they made
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 5: it to in the playoffs outside of the offense. What
• 2:02:36
  Speaker 5: let them down was the secondary, but they've upgraded the secondary.
• 2:02:41
  Speaker 2: And now.
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 5: I mean, you have some real corners in the back,
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 5: and that ball is definitely going to have to come
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 5: out a lot faster. But even before they got Aaron Donald,
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 5: they still had two really good D tackles who performed
• 2:02:54
  Speaker 5: at a very high level last season. And you mean
• 2:02:57
  Speaker 5: you can keep the same guys that perform at a
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 5: super high level who are probably going to be max
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 5: contract guys at some point when there's a chance? and
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 5: you get to bring Aaron Donald in for situational football,
• 2:03:09
  Speaker 5: because I highly doubt that he's going to need to play,
• 2:03:12
  Speaker 5: you know, 50 snaps, right? It's probably going to be,
• 2:03:16
  Speaker 5: you know, very situational guy when they need him to
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 5: be kind of like what the Rams kind of did
• 2:03:21
  Speaker 5: with Von Miller, the year that he won the super bowl.
• 2:03:24
  Speaker 5: And he would come in on certain plays where they
• 2:03:26
  Speaker 5: needed a big, big spark play and let these guys
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 5: who've been training all year and kind of just tee off.
• 2:03:32
  Speaker 5: Because like I said, it's, that D line, even without
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 5: Aaron Donald and you just interject, uh, miles Garrett, or
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 5: you take miles Garrett back off and you insert, uh, Jared,
• 2:03:43
  Speaker 5: Jared verse, and you upgrade the secondary like they did,
• 2:03:46
  Speaker 5: you know, I still would have been picking them to be, uh,
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 5: super favorites.
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 1: You know, who really is going to have a fun year. Uh,
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 1: Byron young, Nate Landman and Omar spades, the linebackers, uh,
• 2:04:00
  Speaker 1: in this, the standup linebackers in this defense that now
• 2:04:04
  Speaker 1: are going to get untouched on so many plays because
• 2:04:08
  Speaker 1: the offensive line and the blocking scheme is so caught
• 2:04:10
  Speaker 1: up with those guys up front. If you're Nate Landman,
• 2:04:13
  Speaker 1: and did you play against Nate Landman when he was
• 2:04:15
  Speaker 1: at Colorado?
• 2:04:15
  Speaker 5: Speaker 4, possibly I'm not positive.
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 1: I can't remember. I think he might, he's a little younger.
• 2:04:23
  Speaker 1: I can't remember if he you guys would have crossed over.
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 1: But anyway, great player, awesome tackling machine, right? But now
• 2:04:29
  Speaker 1: he doesn't get blocked. Like this changes that whole defense drastically.
• 2:04:35
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 2:04:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:04:36
  Speaker 5: I mean, If you have an MVP quarterback, you got
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 5: two really good receivers outside. You got a really good
• 2:04:43
  Speaker 5: running back. You got probably the best coach in the NFL.
• 2:04:49
  Speaker 5: And that team is all about they have so many
• 2:04:52
  Speaker 5: guys who have been in those big games before. Obviously,
• 2:04:55
  Speaker 5: guys have won the Super Bowl. So, you know, the
• 2:04:57
  Speaker 5: only thing they can do. get anywhere near close to
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 5: stopping this team would be injury, right, which we don't
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 5: wish because, you know, I want to see this team
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 5: fully healthy the whole year and, you know, see how
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 5: dominant they actually can be, right? But, you know, at
• 2:05:11
  Speaker 5: the same time, when you stack a lot of stars
• 2:05:14
  Speaker 5: on stars on stars, it hasn't always been the greatest,
• 2:05:17
  Speaker 5: but hopefully that's a little different this year.
• 2:05:20
  Speaker 1: Do you like watching NFL football, like just as a fan,
• 2:05:23
  Speaker 1: watching college football or watching NFL football more?
• 2:05:29
  Speaker 5: You know, I watch certain games depending on who's playing. So,
• 2:05:36
  Speaker 5: you know, my former teams I've played for. you know,
• 2:05:39
  Speaker 5: I'll watch those teams just from the guys that I
• 2:05:42
  Speaker 5: know that are still on the team. So I'll watch
• 2:05:44
  Speaker 5: from that aspect. But if it's just like, you know,
• 2:05:48
  Speaker 5: the Cardinals versus the Browns, you know, I'm not watching
• 2:05:51
  Speaker 5: football that much. But if it's, you know, if it's
• 2:05:55
  Speaker 5: guys that I know that are going to play a
• 2:05:58
  Speaker 5: big part in the game on offense, defense, or especially
• 2:06:01
  Speaker 5: whatever it may be, you know, I'll, I definitely watch
• 2:06:05
  Speaker 5: it and have my YouTube TV where I can watch
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 5: multiple games at once. That's where I'm at these days.
• 2:06:11
  Speaker 1: Well, Zach, we'll see you up there on Thursday. Good
• 2:06:13
  Speaker 1: luck on your first official game broadcast. That'll be a
• 2:06:16
  Speaker 1: lot of fun. And we'll be chatting again soon.
• 2:06:19
  Speaker 4: Thanks, man.
• 2:06:20
  Speaker 5: No problem. Thank you.
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 1: Zach Moss, sideline reporter on the official Utah radio broadcast.
• 2:06:26
  Speaker 1: Bill Riley is the voice of the Utah on the call.
• 2:06:29
  Speaker 1: Of course, Stevenson Sylvester. moves from the sideline up to
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 1: the booth. He'll be your color analyst this year. And
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 1: Zach Moss taking over sideline duties on that radio broadcast. Well,
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 1: we just referenced it. We just talked about it. It
• 2:06:45
  Speaker 1: is massive, massive news in the NFL. Aaron Donald is
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 1: officially part of the Rams season coming out of retirement
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 1: on a one-year deal. We'll talk about the other Utes
• 2:06:57
  Speaker 1: that made rosters. We'll talk about the other Utes that
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 1: got cut. and are awaiting potential claim off the waiver wire.
• 2:07:04
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• 2:07:07
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• 2:07:25
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• 2:07:36
  Speaker 1: ESPN 700 and The Drive with Spence Checketts are going
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• 2:07:47
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• 2:08:09
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• 2:08:14
  Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about this. We speculated on it.
• 2:08:17
  Speaker 1: We thought that maybe it was going to happen and
• 2:08:19
  Speaker 1: it did. Aaron Donald is coming out of retirement. He's
• 2:08:22
  Speaker 1: joining the Rams roster on a one year, $ 20 million
• 2:08:25
  Speaker 1: deal incentives could push it all the way up to
• 2:08:28
  Speaker 1: $ 30 million. And goodness gracious, this makes them even more
• 2:08:34
  Speaker 1: terrifying for other teams in the NFL. I hate it
• 2:08:37
  Speaker 1: as a 49ers fan, obviously this is a team in
• 2:08:40
  Speaker 1: your division. So you got the defending super bowl champs
• 2:08:43
  Speaker 1: in your division. You've got now this Ram squad in
• 2:08:47
  Speaker 1: your division. And also you have the Cardinals. Hey, but
• 2:08:54
  Speaker 1: good news for you. George Kittle's expected to practice.
• 2:08:58
  Speaker 2: Great.
• 2:09:00
  Speaker 1: Isn't that wonderful? Isn't that wonderful? No. And we have
• 2:09:04
  Speaker 1: now the number one viral social media star, the most
• 2:09:08
  Speaker 1: viral story in the business with this Dajon Love guy
• 2:09:12
  Speaker 1: who pretended to be a 49ers wide receiver to scam
• 2:09:16
  Speaker 1: women out of money and It's hilarious. Isn't that great?
• 2:09:21
  Speaker 1: That is going to be a fantastic Netflix documentary when
• 2:09:24
  Speaker 1: this Dajon Love guy gets a full investigative untold treatment
• 2:09:30
  Speaker 1: on Netflix.
• 2:09:32
  Speaker 3: He's using AI to put me in a Niner's uniform.
• 2:09:37
  Speaker 1: Did you see all of the videos that have come out?
• 2:09:40
  Speaker 1: He was really committed to this bit. And he scammed
• 2:09:43
  Speaker 1: women out of a lot of money. And I don't know...
• 2:09:47
  Speaker 1: It's really funny because hindsight is 20. I don't know
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 1: how catfishes still work. I have a lot of sympathy
• 2:09:53
  Speaker 1: for the original people, like when it was new, when
• 2:09:57
  Speaker 1: folks were getting caught up by online relationships and people
• 2:10:02
  Speaker 1: on apps when they didn't really know how to double
• 2:10:05
  Speaker 1: check or that there were people with a lot of
• 2:10:07
  Speaker 1: this scamming tendency. So if you got catfished a decade
• 2:10:12
  Speaker 1: plus ago, I got sympathy for you. if you're somebody
• 2:10:15
  Speaker 1: now who's sending money to somebody on the internet, like
• 2:10:20
  Speaker 1: I don't have any more sympathy. You're just being dumb.
• 2:10:23
  Speaker 1: You should know better. Yeah, absolutely. And it's really too bad.
• 2:10:28
  Speaker 3: This would be an even funnier story if he was just,
• 2:10:33
  Speaker 3: you know, picking up women this way. He wasn't actually
• 2:10:36
  Speaker 3: taking their money, stealing money from them. Um, So it's
• 2:10:41
  Speaker 3: sad that there are victims to this, but it's also like, man, people,
• 2:10:46
  Speaker 3: it just feels like people should know better at this point.
• 2:10:48
  Speaker 1: Like don't send money to people. You don't know. He's
• 2:10:53
  Speaker 1: he's 35 years old, by the way. And that should
• 2:10:57
  Speaker 1: be enough where you're just like, well, the Niners don't
• 2:11:01
  Speaker 1: have any 35 year old receivers who move like that,
• 2:11:04
  Speaker 1: but these guys, These ladies, they weren't able with a
• 2:11:07
  Speaker 1: discerning eye. Where's the, where's the little brother in your life?
• 2:11:10
  Speaker 1: Where's your uncle? Where's your friend? Who's just like, I've
• 2:11:12
  Speaker 1: never heard of Dejan love. Maybe he's on the practice squad.
• 2:11:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 2:11:17
  Speaker 3: Maybe that's what happened. They're like, well, I guess he
• 2:11:18
  Speaker 3: could be a practice squad player. That's still kind of cool.
• 2:11:21
  Speaker 1: You know, you know how easy it is to Google
• 2:11:23
  Speaker 1: who is on the practice squad. Yeah. Yeah.
• 2:11:28
  Speaker 5: Wow. Yeah.
• 2:11:29
  Speaker 1: Dejan love. So Dejan love, here's some silver lining for
• 2:11:33
  Speaker 1: Dejan love. He got caught. He's been arrested after scamming $ 1. 3
• 2:11:38
  Speaker 1: million out of women who thought he was a 49ers
• 2:11:42
  Speaker 1: wide receiver. He doesn't have to play against Miles Garrett
• 2:11:45
  Speaker 1: and Aaron Donald. Like the rest of your Niners have
• 2:11:49
  Speaker 1: to do.
• 2:11:49
  Speaker 3: It is really, for you as a Niners fan, it's
• 2:11:54
  Speaker 3: got to be really sucky to be like, man, the
• 2:11:58
  Speaker 3: Rams were already good and now they look unstoppable. And
• 2:12:02
  Speaker 3: the Seahawks.
• 2:12:04
  Speaker 1: are going to be good because they brought back almost
• 2:12:06
  Speaker 1: everybody from their super bowl winning team from just a
• 2:12:10
  Speaker 1: year ago.
• 2:12:10
  Speaker 3: And we, yeah, we're always going to overachieve because our
• 2:12:13
  Speaker 3: coaches are good, but we're going to, it's probably not
• 2:12:17
  Speaker 3: going to be enough in the playoffs against these two
• 2:12:19
  Speaker 3: guys who have these two teams that happen to be
• 2:12:21
  Speaker 3: in our division.
• 2:12:22
  Speaker 1: Like that's, that's gotta be rough. It's not ideal. I'll
• 2:12:25
  Speaker 1: tell you that James, but that's, that's the way of
• 2:12:29
  Speaker 1: things in the NFL. And, and by the way, We
• 2:12:33
  Speaker 1: do have to state for the Rams, this is like,
• 2:12:37
  Speaker 1: this is it. They have, they have pushed all their
• 2:12:42
  Speaker 1: chips to the center of the table. Now they get
• 2:12:45
  Speaker 1: this crazy Trump card where they can pull Aaron Donald
• 2:12:48
  Speaker 1: out of retirement, which is ridiculous. But like even the
• 2:12:51
  Speaker 1: miles Garrett trade, they have no, no first round picks
• 2:12:54
  Speaker 1: for like the next five years. This is a team
• 2:12:57
  Speaker 1: now that is like, if you don't win in this season,
• 2:13:02
  Speaker 1: and I guess maybe the window gets cracked open still
• 2:13:05
  Speaker 1: for next season. I mean, for Puka Nakua, who's kind
• 2:13:08
  Speaker 1: of next up if he can keep himself out of
• 2:13:12
  Speaker 1: the news cycle for the wrong reasons, for Puka Nakua
• 2:13:15
  Speaker 1: is going to get some $ 250 million deal. He's going
• 2:13:18
  Speaker 1: to be playing potentially for a Rams team on that
• 2:13:21
  Speaker 1: deal that no longer has Matthew Stafford, that has no
• 2:13:27
  Speaker 1: picks coming in, that is effectively in the position where
• 2:13:30
  Speaker 1: the 49ers find themselves, where all their stars are either
• 2:13:34
  Speaker 1: past their prime or or being held together by tape
• 2:13:39
  Speaker 1: and ibuprofen. Although, let's be honest, they're probably using much
• 2:13:44
  Speaker 1: better stuff than that. Yeah, they're probably better than ibuprofen.
• 2:13:49
  Speaker 1: By the way, they also traded for Trent McDuffie before
• 2:13:52
  Speaker 1: the draft. That's right.
• 2:13:52
  Speaker 3: Like, that's the oh, by the way. Like, oh, yeah,
• 2:13:54
  Speaker 3: they got maybe the best corner in the NFL this offseason.
• 2:13:57
  Speaker 1: He was effectively their draft pick because they traded away...
• 2:14:01
  Speaker 1: their draft future for that as well. And they were
• 2:14:04
  Speaker 1: just like, okay, we were going to, we're going to
• 2:14:07
  Speaker 1: give up draft picks, including our first round draft pick,
• 2:14:10
  Speaker 1: but we're going to get Trent McDuffie because we don't
• 2:14:12
  Speaker 1: want to do this in three years. We want to
• 2:14:14
  Speaker 1: do this now. And if you're less need, and if you're,
• 2:14:17
  Speaker 1: if you're Sean McVay, he's, it seems pretty clear to
• 2:14:20
  Speaker 1: me that his at least plan on paper is is
• 2:14:25
  Speaker 1: ride it out with Stafford, ride it out with Aaron Donald,
• 2:14:27
  Speaker 1: ride it out with miles Garrett here in these final,
• 2:14:29
  Speaker 1: this final year or two. And whenever those guys are done,
• 2:14:32
  Speaker 1: I will hopefully have won another super bowl. And now
• 2:14:36
  Speaker 1: I'm going to take a media job or something like that. Yeah.
• 2:14:40
  Speaker 3: And maybe, maybe cause McDuffie's still got some years left.
• 2:14:46
  Speaker 3: Obviously Puka Nakua is at the beginning of his career.
• 2:14:50
  Speaker 3: Maybe the quarterback you drafted in the first round is,
• 2:14:53
  Speaker 3: turns out to be pretty good and you can still
• 2:14:56
  Speaker 3: kind of contend, but you're not going to be, you're
• 2:14:59
  Speaker 3: not going to be a no doubt about it. Superbowl
• 2:15:01
  Speaker 3: contender after Stafford leaves, you wouldn't think, I.
• 2:15:04
  Speaker 1: Guess there is a possibility, right? That especially in the
• 2:15:08
  Speaker 1: case of a Puka Nakula, like let's say Puka has
• 2:15:10
  Speaker 1: a wonderful year, right? And is not in any bad
• 2:15:14
  Speaker 1: headlines here. And let's say that you win it this year.
• 2:15:18
  Speaker 1: and you want to re rack and reacquire some draft capital,
• 2:15:21
  Speaker 1: you could potentially move somebody like that to, to hit
• 2:15:26
  Speaker 1: a reset button. Cause he's among the four best wide
• 2:15:30
  Speaker 1: receivers in the league right now. So you could, you
• 2:15:33
  Speaker 1: could trade him in his prime, but if you're doing that,
• 2:15:36
  Speaker 1: I don't think Sean McVay is staying on board for
• 2:15:39
  Speaker 1: something like that. So we'll see. I I'm fascinated by
• 2:15:43
  Speaker 1: the Rams going all in, all in, all in. And I,
• 2:15:48
  Speaker 1: They did this before, and they won a Super Bowl.
• 2:15:53
  Speaker 1: And I thought that they wouldn't be back in this
• 2:15:55
  Speaker 1: position for at least five years. So here they are. Oh,
• 2:15:58
  Speaker 1: look at this, five years later.
• 2:16:00
  Speaker 3: But then they were maybe a year ahead of things
• 2:16:04
  Speaker 3: because they looked like they could be a Super Bowl
• 2:16:06
  Speaker 3: team last year, lost in the NFC Championship game. So
• 2:16:09
  Speaker 3: it has been remarkable to see Les Snead cash in
• 2:16:13
  Speaker 3: all of their draft capital over and over again to
• 2:16:17
  Speaker 3: go for it. and yet still be able to keep
• 2:16:21
  Speaker 3: a good team, a super bowl contending team in place,
• 2:16:25
  Speaker 3: except for maybe a couple of years in the last
• 2:16:27
  Speaker 3: six years doing that without much draft capital at all.
• 2:16:32
  Speaker 3: I think they've had two first round picks since then
• 2:16:35
  Speaker 3: is all like, it's remarkable the way that they're going
• 2:16:39
  Speaker 3: for it every year. And yet it somewhat long-term they've
• 2:16:44
  Speaker 3: stayed contenders. You don't really see that.
• 2:16:46
  Speaker 1: And look, They use one of their first round picks
• 2:16:51
  Speaker 1: on Ty Simpson, right? Yeah. Which quarterback of the future
• 2:16:55
  Speaker 1: they're hoping. So I guess I could be completely dead wrong.
• 2:16:58
  Speaker 1: I could be up in the night. Like there's maybe
• 2:17:00
  Speaker 1: Rams insiders and fans just like, what are you talking about, dude?
• 2:17:03
  Speaker 1: We used a number one pick on the next guy,
• 2:17:07
  Speaker 1: the guy to throw to Puka when Puka is on
• 2:17:09
  Speaker 1: that big deal. I just don't see being able to,
• 2:17:13
  Speaker 1: to keep all the plates spinning at once because they
• 2:17:15
  Speaker 1: have They've really mortgaged a lot, and they're at the
• 2:17:19
  Speaker 1: top of the salary cap. I guess Aaron Donald's going
• 2:17:23
  Speaker 1: to come off at some point again. Yeah, one-year deal
• 2:17:26
  Speaker 1: is all it is for right now. I would be
• 2:17:30
  Speaker 1: surprised at this point, August 31st.
• 2:17:33
  Speaker 3: I'd be surprised if he plays for more than this season,
• 2:17:38
  Speaker 3: but I didn't think he was coming back for this
• 2:17:40
  Speaker 3: season until a few months ago, so... You never know
• 2:17:43
  Speaker 3: what's going to happen with in Rams land. I do
• 2:17:46
  Speaker 3: think that if you're a fan of the Rams, this
• 2:17:49
  Speaker 3: is exactly what you want. You want a, an owner,
• 2:17:53
  Speaker 3: you want a head coach, you want a GM who
• 2:17:55
  Speaker 3: just always wants to go for it every year. And
• 2:17:58
  Speaker 3: you want to have the ability to make these kinds
• 2:18:02
  Speaker 3: of trades, make these free agent signings that they've made
• 2:18:06
  Speaker 3: in order for you to always be a contender. Like
• 2:18:08
  Speaker 3: this is a fan's dream. and it's come to fruition
• 2:18:12
  Speaker 3: not that long ago because they won a Super Bowl too.
• 2:18:15
  Speaker 3: It's not just one of those where it's like, okay, great,
• 2:18:18
  Speaker 3: we're always contending. Oh, man, but we can never win
• 2:18:20
  Speaker 3: the big one. They've already shown that they can win
• 2:18:22
  Speaker 3: the big one. So if you're a fan of the Rams,
• 2:18:24
  Speaker 3: it's a great time to be a Rams fan for sure.
• 2:18:26
  Speaker 1: Well, and I get it. If you're a Jazz franchise,
• 2:18:30
  Speaker 1: you're probably in a slightly different situation than what the
• 2:18:33
  Speaker 1: Rams are in the NFL because you have to slow
• 2:18:35
  Speaker 1: play and you have to worry more about draft capital
• 2:18:38
  Speaker 1: and things like that. but so many owners and GMs
• 2:18:43
  Speaker 1: preach patience. We've got a game plan. We've got, and
• 2:18:47
  Speaker 1: the Rams are just like, yeah, my, my game plan
• 2:18:50
  Speaker 1: is to just spend it fast and loose. Let's go.
• 2:18:52
  Speaker 1: Is he good right now? We'll worry about next year,
• 2:18:55
  Speaker 1: next year, bring him. Let's go. Hey, you want to
• 2:18:58
  Speaker 1: try to win? Let's let's go. I, I bet less
• 2:19:01
  Speaker 1: need is not, he has no idea what he's doing
• 2:19:03
  Speaker 1: next weekend. He's just like, He's a fly-by-the-seat-of-your-pants kind of guy,
• 2:19:09
  Speaker 1: as much as a GM can be, it seems.
• 2:19:11
  Speaker 3: He's like, you know what parties I'm going to tomorrow?
• 2:19:13
  Speaker 3: I don't care about the weekend right now. He was
• 2:19:16
  Speaker 3: kind of cool, honestly.
• 2:19:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:19:18
  Speaker 3: And like I said, if your teams are in the
• 2:19:21
  Speaker 3: position to be able to do it that way, that's
• 2:19:24
  Speaker 3: what you want. If your teams are not, then, I mean,
• 2:19:28
  Speaker 3: the prudent thing is to be more patient and do
• 2:19:30
  Speaker 3: a long-term rebuild and strike at the right moment.
• 2:19:36
  Speaker 1: It's really good.
• 2:19:36
  Speaker 3: Really cool that you got a team like the Rams
• 2:19:39
  Speaker 3: just going, you know what, we don't actually have to
• 2:19:42
  Speaker 3: be patient. And then it's not like, I know they're
• 2:19:45
  Speaker 3: an LA team, but it's not like they're the Yankees.
• 2:19:46
  Speaker 3: It's not like they're the, like the Cowboys where they're
• 2:19:49
  Speaker 3: just a hated franchise by just about everybody. It's kind
• 2:19:54
  Speaker 3: of refreshing to see a team that isn't one of
• 2:19:57
  Speaker 3: those kind of operating like that. Um, Speaking of the NFL,
• 2:20:03
  Speaker 3: Kyrie's Rowan, former Ute and Aggie waved by the Broncos.
• 2:20:08
  Speaker 3: Lucky photo waved by the giants. Britain Covey waved by
• 2:20:13
  Speaker 3: the Eagles. Jaron Kump cut by the bears. Jack Balmeister
• 2:20:18
  Speaker 3: waved by the Rams. So that's going to stand in
• 2:20:21
  Speaker 3: your way.
• 2:20:22
  Speaker 1: Rams. Yeah. Why don't you want a really good punter?
• 2:20:25
  Speaker 1: Doesn't make any sense. Um, These guys, of course, if
• 2:20:29
  Speaker 1: they claim waivers, or excuse me, if they clear waivers,
• 2:20:32
  Speaker 1: they can then be signed back to the practice squad.
• 2:20:35
  Speaker 1: I've been keeping an eye on the waiver wire. There's
• 2:20:38
  Speaker 1: actually a really interesting situation developing on the waiver wire
• 2:20:42
  Speaker 1: where a judge this weekend, this past weekend, said that
• 2:20:46
  Speaker 1: actually the SEC cannot block former pro players from playing
• 2:20:50
  Speaker 1: in SEC football games. And the league has reluctantly said, okay,
• 2:20:56
  Speaker 1: we'll abide by the law as interpreted by this judge,
• 2:21:00
  Speaker 1: Zach Pyburn, who we've talked about a lot. He's the
• 2:21:02
  Speaker 1: one who had two sacks in a game for the
• 2:21:04
  Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers in the preseason. Then he was cut.
• 2:21:08
  Speaker 1: He has been claimed off waivers by the Kansas city chiefs.
• 2:21:12
  Speaker 1: He also is in the transfer portal and has an
• 2:21:15
  Speaker 1: agreement reportedly with LSU. So we might have a real
• 2:21:19
  Speaker 1: time situation where, where we're going to see a player
• 2:21:22
  Speaker 1: decide whether or not he wants to go beyond the
• 2:21:25
  Speaker 1: Kansas city chiefs roster for whatever, or whether he wants
• 2:21:30
  Speaker 1: to come back and play for LSU and maybe make
• 2:21:33
  Speaker 1: more money by playing for LSU. Isn't that crazy?
• 2:21:36
  Speaker 3: That is, that is insane. It's almost as insane as
• 2:21:40
  Speaker 3: any judge being like, you can't make rules about your
• 2:21:43
  Speaker 3: own conference.
• 2:21:44
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no. You can't make sensible rules. Like,
• 2:21:47
  Speaker 1: come on. You're allegedly your honor. Stop it. Well, judges
• 2:21:51
  Speaker 1: have been, I don't like to get political. Judges have
• 2:21:55
  Speaker 1: been making some indefensible decisions, some indefensible judgments. Yes. You
• 2:22:02
  Speaker 1: could say like some judges in the United States right
• 2:22:05
  Speaker 1: now are legitimately the most in this sports thing is
• 2:22:09
  Speaker 1: not like consequential. Ultimately it's like, whatever, who cares? It's
• 2:22:13
  Speaker 1: just sports. Some of the stuff that's being decided by
• 2:22:17
  Speaker 1: judges right now in the United States is like, Downfall
• 2:22:21
  Speaker 1: of society type stuff like get off your bench God
• 2:22:26
  Speaker 1: complex and realize that there is a better way to
• 2:22:29
  Speaker 1: do things in the sec. They're going to continue to
• 2:22:34
  Speaker 1: explore all options. They have, they are going to, uh, to,
• 2:22:39
  Speaker 1: to fight this ruling. They're also talking about, well, hold
• 2:22:43
  Speaker 1: on a minute. If we can't stop them from playing,
• 2:22:46
  Speaker 1: if LSU can't stop them from playing, that's fine. But
• 2:22:49
  Speaker 1: there's nothing saying we have to play against LSU. There's
• 2:22:53
  Speaker 1: nothing saying that we, as the SEC, can't vote to
• 2:22:56
  Speaker 1: expel LSU for using these players. They'll probably find a
• 2:23:01
  Speaker 1: different judge that says, no, actually, you can't do that.
• 2:23:05
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry. Sensible rules don't make any sense in my courtroom.
• 2:23:09
  Speaker 3: Did you ever, when you were a kid, some of
• 2:23:11
  Speaker 3: these judges, like you said, sports doesn't matter at all
• 2:23:14
  Speaker 3: compared to a lot of other things.
• 2:23:16
  Speaker 1: But some of these judges should be disbarred for some
• 2:23:18
  Speaker 1: of these things. These judges right now are the equivalent...
• 2:23:22
  Speaker 1: Did you ever have this when you were a kid
• 2:23:24
  Speaker 1: where either... You didn't want to invite somebody to the
• 2:23:28
  Speaker 1: birthday party. And then their mom called and your mom
• 2:23:30
  Speaker 1: was just like, you have to invite this person or,
• 2:23:34
  Speaker 1: or maybe you were the, maybe you were the kid
• 2:23:36
  Speaker 1: that your mom called. Hey, you have to invite my son.
• 2:23:39
  Speaker 1: And you could tell that you weren't welcome. And you
• 2:23:41
  Speaker 1: could tell you weren't welcome. I've been on both sides
• 2:23:43
  Speaker 1: of that in my childhood. That's what this is. LSU
• 2:23:47
  Speaker 1: is right now. They're the one that the judge is
• 2:23:50
  Speaker 1: the mom calling. Actually, you have to invite my son
• 2:23:52
  Speaker 1: to the birthday party. And the rest of all of
• 2:23:56
  Speaker 1: college football, not just the sec, the rest of all
• 2:23:58
  Speaker 1: of college football is just like, well, this is going
• 2:24:02
  Speaker 1: to ruin the party, but okay. I guess he's here. Sure.
• 2:24:06
  Speaker 1: Thank you for making us do this better. At least
• 2:24:09
  Speaker 1: bring a cool present. So wait, you were, you were
• 2:24:15
  Speaker 1: the uninvited guest to some parties.
• 2:24:18
  Speaker 2: Not at all.
• 2:24:18
  Speaker 1: It wasn't a birthday party. It was a concert. It
• 2:24:21
  Speaker 1: was real. I still have, like, I'm cringing inwardly thinking
• 2:24:26
  Speaker 1: about it right now. Were you telling your mom, no,
• 2:24:27
  Speaker 1: it's fine, I don't want to go? No, I wanted
• 2:24:30
  Speaker 1: to go. You wanted to go, okay. And I didn't
• 2:24:32
  Speaker 1: realize until we were actually at the concert that I
• 2:24:35
  Speaker 1: wasn't really welcome there. Oh, no. And so I was
• 2:24:38
  Speaker 1: just like, wow, this is a terrible experience for the
• 2:24:40
  Speaker 1: next three or four hours.
• 2:24:41
  Speaker 10: Oh, no.
• 2:24:43
  Speaker 1: It was not good.
• 2:24:45
  Speaker 3: And these were, like, you thought you were friends, but
• 2:24:49
  Speaker 3: you found out you weren't really... That close of friends.
• 2:24:52
  Speaker 1: It was one of those that we had, it was like,
• 2:24:53
  Speaker 1: we were really close friends for a time. And this was,
• 2:24:57
  Speaker 1: and this was like, as the friendship was deteriorating, but
• 2:25:02
  Speaker 1: the dad was also the boy scout leader. And we
• 2:25:04
  Speaker 1: had been like, we had gone on a scout camp
• 2:25:06
  Speaker 1: and we had listened to this. It was Jethro Tull,
• 2:25:10
  Speaker 1: which is like music for old people. I don't know
• 2:25:12
  Speaker 1: why we all loved it. It was Jethro Tull. And
• 2:25:15
  Speaker 1: Jethro Tull was coming. And I was just like, oh
• 2:25:18
  Speaker 1: my gosh, Jethro Tull's got, we had listened on a
• 2:25:20
  Speaker 1: scout camp, driving down to scout camp in their car,
• 2:25:23
  Speaker 1: in the dad's car. He was our scout leader. We
• 2:25:25
  Speaker 1: had listened to that and we've loved it. And it
• 2:25:27
  Speaker 1: was just like, heck yeah. And then they were like
• 2:25:30
  Speaker 1: at one of the scouting activities, they were like, oh,
• 2:25:32
  Speaker 1: we're going to the Jethro Tull concert. And I was like,
• 2:25:34
  Speaker 1: I want to go to the Jethro Tull concert. And
• 2:25:37
  Speaker 1: my mom was just like, oh, Let me call and
• 2:25:39
  Speaker 1: see if they'll take you unbeknownst to you. They like
• 2:25:42
  Speaker 1: rolled their eyes. As you said that probably exactly. And
• 2:25:45
  Speaker 1: then my mom called like, Hey, would you be okay? If,
• 2:25:48
  Speaker 1: if Sean came to the Jethro Tull concert with you
• 2:25:51
  Speaker 1: and dad wasn't like, didn't realize that the friendship was
• 2:25:55
  Speaker 1: falling apart. Scout leader. Dad was just like, yeah, okay, fine. Yeah,
• 2:25:58
  Speaker 1: they had a great time at the camping trip. Of
• 2:26:00
  Speaker 1: course they did. And then when I went there, then
• 2:26:02
  Speaker 1: I realized, like, they didn't want me there. And I
• 2:26:04
  Speaker 1: was just like, oh, no.
• 2:26:05
  Speaker 3: And that just sounds like the plot of a new
• 2:26:09
  Speaker 3: CW show right there. We were best friends in elementary school, okay?
• 2:26:14
  Speaker 1: And now we're enemies. You're hitting it exactly. It was
• 2:26:18
  Speaker 1: like we were best friends in seventh grade, and in
• 2:26:19
  Speaker 1: eighth grade it all fell apart. And that's when the
• 2:26:23
  Speaker 1: concert happened. What did you do, Sean? What did you do?
• 2:26:27
  Speaker 1: I don't think anything meaningful. By the way, kids grow apart, man.
• 2:26:32
  Speaker 1: It's rough when you're in it, but it happens. Ended
• 2:26:35
  Speaker 1: up later in life, totally cordial friends again. But, you know.
• 2:26:38
  Speaker 1: Have you told this story? Never. Have you guys talked
• 2:26:41
  Speaker 1: about it? Never. You should bring it up. Never.
• 2:26:44
  Speaker 3: You should bring it up and then update us on
• 2:26:46
  Speaker 3: the show with your reaction.
• 2:26:47
  Speaker 1: He's a doctor now. He's a real doctor now.
• 2:26:50
  Speaker 3: Well, shout out to Dr. Sean's friend. Or former friend.
• 2:26:55
  Speaker 3: I don't know what we call you. I'm sure he's
• 2:26:59
  Speaker 3: listening and going, oh my gosh, I remember that.
• 2:27:01
  Speaker 1: That was terrible. He's probably listening just being like, yeah,
• 2:27:04
  Speaker 1: why did you force your way into the Jethro Tull concert,
• 2:27:07
  Speaker 1: you moron? And now we're not friends again. All right, well,
• 2:27:10
  Speaker 1: after that trauma dump, we'll take one more break here,
• 2:27:13
  Speaker 1: and we'll close it out next with a little crosstalk.
• 2:27:16
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• 2:27:29
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• 2:27:37
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• 2:27:40
  Speaker 6: of ESPN 700 and 92.1 FM.
• 2:27:46
  Speaker 1: James Peterson, if you can, grab some Jethro Tull out
• 2:27:50
  Speaker 1: of the system if we have any, because Spence just
• 2:27:52
  Speaker 1: came in and went, Jethro Tull sucks.
• 2:27:55
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• 2:28:40
  Speaker 1: not anti-flute. But, like, you've got to moderate the flute.
• 2:28:45
  Speaker 12: And this is a decades-long debate I've had with my father.
• 2:28:50
  Speaker 1: All you flautists out there. Rally against Spence Checkers.
• 2:28:53
  Speaker 8: No, no.
• 2:28:54
  Speaker 1: Let me be clear.
• 2:28:54
  Speaker 12: I'm not anti-flute. Some flute is fine. You need to
• 2:28:59
  Speaker 12: moderate the flute. Jethro Tull never moderated the flute. You
• 2:29:03
  Speaker 12: ask James to find a Jethro Tull song, go ahead
• 2:29:07
  Speaker 12: and find one without a flute.
• 2:29:09
  Speaker 1: That's all I'm asking. Right there. You're about one second
• 2:29:14
  Speaker 1: into this.
• 2:29:14
  Speaker 12: That's all I'm saying. I've had this debate with my
• 2:29:17
  Speaker 12: father for years. He is convinced Jethro Tull... It's like
• 2:29:21
  Speaker 12: one of the most underrated bands of all time. And, again,
• 2:29:24
  Speaker 12: it's just too much flute, man.
• 2:29:26
  Speaker 1: That's all. That's all it is.
• 2:29:27
  Speaker 12: I'm not saying they're not horrible, but they're overrated. Tell
• 2:29:32
  Speaker 12: that to Ron Burgundy. The jazz flute up his sleeve?
• 2:29:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:29:37
  Speaker 12: Oh, I'm not prepared for this. But mostly I just
• 2:29:40
  Speaker 12: wanted to give you a hug after that. You got
• 2:29:42
  Speaker 12: left out of the Jethro Tulls concert, man.
• 2:29:44
  Speaker 1: No, no, I got to go. I realized mid-concert I
• 2:29:48
  Speaker 1: was not welcome there. That was a bad situation. And
• 2:29:51
  Speaker 1: so you would have rather, in retrospect, have not gone, correct? Yes,
• 2:29:55
  Speaker 1: if I could go back and talk to my 8th
• 2:29:56
  Speaker 1: grade self. I really don't mind if you sit this
• 2:30:01
  Speaker 1: one out. Is that a flute? That's a Jethro Tull lyric.
• 2:30:04
  Speaker 1: You would know that if you appreciated the master. It
• 2:30:06
  Speaker 1: sounded like you were talking the way a flute would speak. Yeah,
• 2:30:10
  Speaker 1: that's a little bit of how he sings. Well, let me.
• 2:30:12
  Speaker 12: You and I might be different this way. You know
• 2:30:14
  Speaker 12: the whole FOMO, fear of missing out? I'm a JOMO guy.
• 2:30:18
  Speaker 12: I don't want... Please don't invite me to the party.
• 2:30:21
  Speaker 12: You're jealous of missing out? No, that's joy of missing out.
• 2:30:24
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay. Don't invite me to the party. I don't
• 2:30:27
  Speaker 1: want to go.
• 2:30:28
  Speaker 12: You know, if I run into you and I haven't
• 2:30:31
  Speaker 12: seen you since college, don't say, let's do lunch.
• 2:30:33
  Speaker 1: I don't want to do lunch with you. I'm going
• 2:30:35
  Speaker 1: to start inviting you to stuff just to make sure
• 2:30:37
  Speaker 1: that you feel that, oh, I don't want to go.
• 2:30:40
  Speaker 12: Well, but here's the other thing, like... I'll feel bad.
• 2:30:44
  Speaker 12: I am an introverted empath, is what I am. I'm
• 2:30:47
  Speaker 12: a kind, sweet man. That is completely inaccurate.
• 2:30:50
  Speaker 1: What are you talking about? You're not introverted, first of all.
• 2:30:53
  Speaker 1: I'm an introvert. You can't do this job and be
• 2:30:55
  Speaker 1: an introvert. I'm in a studio alone for four hours,
• 2:30:58
  Speaker 1: and then I go home. I live alone. I make dinner.
• 2:31:02
  Speaker 1: I watch a game. I watch a show. I go home.
• 2:31:05
  Speaker 1: And it's solitude. It's peace. I get to pick what
• 2:31:07
  Speaker 1: I want to eat. I don't have to hear it
• 2:31:09
  Speaker 1: from anyone.
• 2:31:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 2:31:11
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 2:31:11
  Speaker 1: Sounds like loneliness.
• 2:31:13
  Speaker 12: It sounds like something's ringing true all of a sudden, huh?
• 2:31:15
  Speaker 12: Did I hit a nerve just now?
• 2:31:18
  Speaker 1: Not at all. I don't want to hear it, okay?
• 2:31:21
  Speaker 1: Sorry that I didn't do the thing right.
• 2:31:24
  Speaker 12: Sorry that I don't read your mind and you're mad
• 2:31:25
  Speaker 12: at me now because I guessed wrong, okay? I'm going
• 2:31:28
  Speaker 12: to go make a steak and watch a game and
• 2:31:29
  Speaker 12: go to bed. I get all the answers to the
• 2:31:34
  Speaker 12: test wrong.
• 2:31:35
  Speaker 1: I do my best. It doesn't work. I don't want
• 2:31:37
  Speaker 1: to hear it. So I am introverted, believe it or not.
• 2:31:41
  Speaker 1: Are you at all?
• 2:31:43
  Speaker 12: I am the opposite of an introvert. I am an
• 2:31:46
  Speaker 12: extroverted extrovert. So you like social events. You want to
• 2:31:49
  Speaker 12: go to the party. You want to go to the
• 2:31:51
  Speaker 12: Jethro Tull show.
• 2:31:52
  Speaker 1: My battery is recharged by the presence of humans. My
• 2:31:55
  Speaker 1: battery is recharged by my alone time, period. Okay. Although
• 2:31:59
  Speaker 1: I did make it to the Morgan Scali press conference today.
• 2:32:02
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 2:32:02
  Speaker 12: You were stirring the pot. You were trying to get
• 2:32:05
  Speaker 12: people angry. No, I was actually, that was intentional. To
• 2:32:08
  Speaker 12: let Morgan get the message out that things are good
• 2:32:10
  Speaker 12: up here.
• 2:32:11
  Speaker 2: Great.
• 2:32:11
  Speaker 1: Sean. Great. Chess over here, not checkers. Yeah, you're right.
• 2:32:14
  Speaker 1: You're right. That's exactly what you're doing. You're right.
• 2:32:16
  Speaker 12: No, that's 100% what I was doing.
• 2:32:18
  Speaker 1: I agree with you. You said I was trying to
• 2:32:21
  Speaker 1: stir the nest. And then I stood corrected.
• 2:32:23
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 2:32:24
  Speaker 1: That's good self-awareness. Yes. Family on three. One, two, three. Family. Yes.
• 2:32:28
  Speaker 1: That's nice. We should end every Crosstalk with that. Let's not.
• 2:32:32
  Speaker 1: I thought Morgan was dynamite. I just want to be
• 2:32:34
  Speaker 1: up at the building. Win the press conference. Text 877-353-0700.
• 2:32:37
  Speaker 12: It's really all that matters. Good to be up there.
• 2:32:41
  Speaker 12: They're starting to set up the tailgate. It feels like
• 2:32:44
  Speaker 12: fall on campus. About to turn our calendar to September.
• 2:32:47
  Speaker 12: And I'm pumped, man. I say this every time we
• 2:32:50
  Speaker 12: launch into a game week. Because we wait all year
• 2:32:53
  Speaker 12: for this. And then we blink and it is gone.
• 2:32:56
  Speaker 12: You get six Saturdays, kids.
• 2:32:58
  Speaker 1: Seven this time. Seven this time.
• 2:32:59
  Speaker 12: One's a Thursday. Um, and who knows? Let's keep our
• 2:33:02
  Speaker 12: fingers crossed. Maybe something crazy.
• 2:33:04
  Speaker 1: Happens a bit more than that, huh?
• 2:33:05
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 2:33:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:33:06
  Speaker 1: On campus college football playoff game. Let's get weird.
• 2:33:08
  Speaker 12: But out of all of the Saturdays you get all year,
• 2:33:11
  Speaker 12: of course, this is a Thursday. You only get, you know,
• 2:33:14
  Speaker 12: six or seven of these things. So enjoy it.
• 2:33:16
  Speaker 1: Uh, I can't wait. I, I don't know what it's been.
• 2:33:20
  Speaker 12: I think ever since the jazz decided they were going
• 2:33:23
  Speaker 12: to be unserious about their deal. Now that's going to
• 2:33:25
  Speaker 12: change this year. They made a good trade over the weekend.
• 2:33:27
  Speaker 12: We'll talk about today. There's been something about football season.
• 2:33:31
  Speaker 12: It's even a little bit more appealing because we have
• 2:33:33
  Speaker 12: so many really great college football programs in the state.
• 2:33:37
  Speaker 12: And our current professional basketball team has gone through a four-year,
• 2:33:41
  Speaker 12: really difficult stretch.
• 2:33:43
  Speaker 1: RSL cannot find their way at all. So I'm excited
• 2:33:46
  Speaker 1: for this, man. I'm excited for Thursday. Excited to be
• 2:33:48
  Speaker 1: up there early. Yeah, I mean, it's going to be great.
• 2:33:51
  Speaker 1: Can't wait for it. And we've got great content leading
• 2:33:55
  Speaker 1: up to it this week. We've got Devin Dampier joining us.
• 2:33:58
  Speaker 1: We've got Coordinator's Corner this week. We had the Morgan
• 2:34:01
  Speaker 1: Scali presser with, you know, things for you to react
• 2:34:04
  Speaker 1: to out of that. Coach's show is tomorrow night. The
• 2:34:06
  Speaker 1: return of the coach's show. We got Carlos Alcarez wearing
• 2:34:10
  Speaker 1: some awesome air force ones at the U S open.
• 2:34:13
  Speaker 1: It's just a great sports week. That's a good looking outfit.
• 2:34:16
  Speaker 1: That is a good looking out. I will say this.
• 2:34:18
  Speaker 1: He was wearing like he had full tank top, like
• 2:34:20
  Speaker 1: Brown tank top Brown shorts earlier. And it was kind
• 2:34:24
  Speaker 1: of a narrow cut tank top. So he kept showing nip.
• 2:34:27
  Speaker 1: There's a lot. There was some, Wardrobe malfunctions. Alcarez was
• 2:34:30
  Speaker 1: exposing too much nipple during the U.S. Open today. Do
• 2:34:33
  Speaker 1: you think that was intentional? It felt like it. I
• 2:34:36
  Speaker 1: think you know when the nip is out. I mean,
• 2:34:39
  Speaker 1: you should. You've got to have the awareness to know
• 2:34:41
  Speaker 1: that the nip is everywhere. You've got to keep the
• 2:34:44
  Speaker 1: nip in. It's everywhere?
• 2:34:46
  Speaker 12: If it's out, it's everywhere. Because everyone's seeing it. I
• 2:34:49
  Speaker 12: think we can all be on the same page here.
• 2:34:51
  Speaker 12: No one wants to see the nip. Keep the nip in.
• 2:34:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:34:54
  Speaker 1: Carlos, put it away.
• 2:34:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:34:56
  Speaker 1: But let me get those shoes off you. There are
• 2:34:59
  Speaker 1: children watching. Those are unreleased. Do you watch tennis? Will
• 2:35:02
  Speaker 1: you watch like a U.S.
• 2:35:03
  Speaker 2: Open? Yeah.
• 2:35:03
  Speaker 1: You've attended the event.
• 2:35:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
• 2:35:05
  Speaker 1: I like tennis. I watched with great interest this match
• 2:35:09
  Speaker 1: today that he just won. But you don't watch golf
• 2:35:11
  Speaker 1: at all? No, I don't.
• 2:35:15
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 2:35:15
  Speaker 5: No.
• 2:35:15
  Speaker 1: All right. I like sports that require athleticism. Let's get
• 2:35:20
  Speaker 1: you on a golf course. No, thank you. Yeah, that's
• 2:35:24
  Speaker 1: what I thought. Mr. Extroverted extrovert.
• 2:35:28
  Speaker 12: So, but you're also the type of guy you don't
• 2:35:30
  Speaker 12: want to, you do.
• 2:35:31
  Speaker 1: You don't want to do the thing that you're not
• 2:35:32
  Speaker 1: good at, right? Oh yeah. I am the worst of those.
• 2:35:36
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to be, cause I'm, if I'm not good
• 2:35:37
  Speaker 1: at something, that thing is the problem. Not me. I see. Yeah.
• 2:35:42
  Speaker 12: We've run into an issue that we share now and
• 2:35:44
  Speaker 12: I'm trying to be so much better.
• 2:35:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:35:46
  Speaker 12: Like I, Of all the things that Mormons do well,
• 2:35:50
  Speaker 12: dancing at weddings sober is the most amazing part of
• 2:35:53
  Speaker 12: that culture.
• 2:35:54
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 2:35:54
  Speaker 12: You go to a Mormon wedding, they are dancing all night,
• 2:35:57
  Speaker 12: and they are sober.
• 2:35:59
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 2:35:59
  Speaker 1: Dancing sober sounds terrifying to me. I don't mind a dance. Sober?
• 2:36:02
  Speaker 1: I'm always sober. You can dance. I'm a pretty good dancer. Okay.
• 2:36:09
  Speaker 1: I'm going to need to see proof. This is a
• 2:36:11
  Speaker 1: Vince Vaughn in Wedding Crasher situation. I'm being doubted. I'm
• 2:36:14
  Speaker 1: a phenomenal dancer. You're Christopher Walken here. You and I
• 2:36:17
  Speaker 1: both know that I'm a phenomenal dancer.
• 2:36:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:36:19
  Speaker 1: Where is she? Still in the house? Yeah.
• 2:36:22
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 2:36:22
  Speaker 1: That's peak Vince Vaughn, by the way.
• 2:36:24
  Speaker 12: I would need video evidence because I wouldn't describe you
• 2:36:28
  Speaker 12: as an elegant mover.
• 2:36:30
  Speaker 1: No, I'm not an elegant mover, but I have rhythm.
• 2:36:32
  Speaker 1: You have rhythm. And I've got cakes. I have a
• 2:36:35
  Speaker 1: large rear end. So.
• 2:36:36
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 2:36:37
  Speaker 1: It helps you dance. Did you say cakes?
• 2:36:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:36:39
  Speaker 1: Is that a term for the glutes? It is now.
• 2:36:41
  Speaker 1: I did not know that. You're welcome. Well, so dancing,
• 2:36:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, look, I say this humbly. I actually am
• 2:36:51
  Speaker 1: an excellent dancer. Okay. No, you're not. Because you don't
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  Speaker 1: like to do it. Well, it's awkward. Like at weddings,
• 2:36:57
  Speaker 1: you need a little courage. I'm always impressed when people
• 2:36:59
  Speaker 1: are able to do that. Unencumbered. Karaoke is the same. Okay, yeah.
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  Speaker 12: Look, I've been known to make grown men cry while
• 2:37:09
  Speaker 12: singing I Want It That Way by the Backstreet Boys.
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  Speaker 1: I hit the notes. I hit the high notes. I
• 2:37:14
  Speaker 1: can harmonize. He's been called the songbird of our generation,
• 2:37:18
  Speaker 1: Spence Checkers. Some people have said that. I wouldn't go
• 2:37:20
  Speaker 1: that far. Singing and dancing.
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  Speaker 12: Okay, so besides golf, give me something that you're bad
• 2:37:25
  Speaker 12: at that you won't do.
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  Speaker 1: Uh anything musical i don't have any musical talent at
• 2:37:31
  Speaker 1: all you can dance but you can't sing or play
• 2:37:33
  Speaker 1: an instrument i can't sing i can't play an instrument
• 2:37:35
  Speaker 1: can you rap i can't well james get a beat
• 2:37:38
  Speaker 1: i can rap along i can rap along with something
• 2:37:42
  Speaker 1: see if we can get a beat, go and see
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  Speaker 1: if Sean freestyle for us. Yeah, no, I just, any
• 2:37:47
  Speaker 1: activity that I'm like, uh, you know, like board games,
• 2:37:50
  Speaker 1: how everyone just loves to like, Oh, settlers of Catan,
• 2:37:53
  Speaker 1: let's go. I don't have the patience to get like
• 2:37:57
  Speaker 1: good at or learn that thing. So I'm just like, no,
• 2:38:00
  Speaker 1: that is bad because I don't have an, I don't
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  Speaker 1: have a knack for it.
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  Speaker 3: Trivia.
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  Speaker 1: I'm good at trivia.
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  Speaker 12: I would think you, you have a tremendous amount of
• 2:38:09
  Speaker 12: knowledge about the weirdest things I have.
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  Speaker 1: It's like a wide and a shallow.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how to actually do anything in life,
• 2:38:19
  Speaker 1: but I know fun facts about everything.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 12: I've always been impressed with some like your knowledge of
• 2:38:27
  Speaker 12: fantasy books and films.
• 2:38:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Great.
• 2:38:30
  Speaker 1: You'll drop references. I'm like, what is that? Harry Potter.
• 2:38:35
  Speaker 1: And is it, One of the other ones, Game of Thrones,
• 2:38:40
  Speaker 1: Star Wars. I love that you have a hard time
• 2:38:42
  Speaker 1: even coming up with what the other ones might be.
• 2:38:44
  Speaker 1: Lord of the Rings. There it is. Never seen a
• 2:38:46
  Speaker 1: minute of any of those films.
• 2:38:47
  Speaker 7: What?
• 2:38:47
  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: Never. You read the books, though. Obviously. No. That type
• 2:38:52
  Speaker 1: of stuff, it is completely uninteresting. Okay, so how you
• 2:38:57
  Speaker 1: feel about... No. I feel about golf. I have an
• 2:39:02
  Speaker 1: active imagination. No, you don't. Yes, I do. You hate
• 2:39:04
  Speaker 1: things that are imaginary. I hate things that are weird
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  Speaker 1: and dorky.
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  Speaker 7: No, no, no.
• 2:39:08
  Speaker 1: You can't call them weird and dorky.
• 2:39:10
  Speaker 7: They are mainstream.
• 2:39:11
  Speaker 1: They're mainstream pop culture now. They're not even weird and
• 2:39:14
  Speaker 1: dorky anymore. It's my opinion.
• 2:39:16
  Speaker 12: I went to Comic-Con and had to publicly apologize to
• 2:39:21
  Speaker 12: Gundam the Robot.
• 2:39:23
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 2:39:24
  Speaker 12: So I thought Comic-Con... I didn't know what it was. Kurt,
• 2:39:27
  Speaker 12: our sales guy was at the old city. He's like,
• 2:39:29
  Speaker 12: I sold the remote. You're going to comic-con.
• 2:39:30
  Speaker 1: I'm like, all right.
• 2:39:31
  Speaker 12: So what I thought that was when I walked in
• 2:39:34
  Speaker 12: was like mascots dress up for children.
• 2:39:38
  Speaker 1: I had no idea that adults.
• 2:39:41
  Speaker 12: Go get costumes and go to an event and like
• 2:39:45
  Speaker 12: kick it with each other.
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  Speaker 1: It's like cosplay, sick one, bro. Like I didn't know
• 2:39:49
  Speaker 1: that was.
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  Speaker 12: So there are these kids around and this dude takes
• 2:39:52
  Speaker 12: his helmet off. I'm like, I'm thinking mascot here, like
• 2:39:56
  Speaker 12: the jazz bear would never take his head off.
• 2:39:58
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, hey, tell the robot dude to put
• 2:40:00
  Speaker 1: his helmet on. There are kids over here.
• 2:40:03
  Speaker 12: And he went and complained to the organizers. He's like, hey,
• 2:40:07
  Speaker 12: that radio guy made fun of me. And so during
• 2:40:10
  Speaker 12: the break, the organizer came over.
• 2:40:12
  Speaker 7: He's like, hey.
• 2:40:14
  Speaker 12: Just do me a favor and apologize to Gundam the robot.
• 2:40:16
  Speaker 12: I was like, say that sentence one more time.
• 2:40:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you should. Well, and then it dawned on me.
• 2:40:21
  Speaker 12: I'm like, this isn't an event for children to come
• 2:40:24
  Speaker 12: see their favorite characters in person. These grownups are here
• 2:40:32
  Speaker 12: dressed as their favorite whatever, and they're just kicking it
• 2:40:35
  Speaker 12: with each other.
• 2:40:37
  Speaker 1: I didn't know that was a thing. Well, it is.
• 2:40:39
  Speaker 1: Not for me.
• 2:40:40
  Speaker 12: But for other people. Golf is for me, not for you.
• 2:40:43
  Speaker 12: You hate imagination, and those people like it. That area of...
• 2:40:47
  Speaker 12: Creativity intimidates me. You don't like it. No, I'm very
• 2:40:51
  Speaker 12: creative with a three-wood in my hand. But that area
• 2:40:53
  Speaker 12: of creativity is nothing that interests me.
• 2:40:56
  Speaker 1: Imagination, fiction. But I am thrilled that it interests you.
• 2:40:59
  Speaker 1: Lights are fancy. You're just not on board. I can
• 2:41:02
  Speaker 1: be whimsical if I need to. I have whimsy, Sean.
• 2:41:05
  Speaker 1: There's no whimsy about you. There is whimsy inside of me.
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  Speaker 5: None.
• 2:41:09
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. You have many redeeming qualities. Whimsy is not one.
• 2:41:13
  Speaker 1: I can be whimsical if I need to be. No,
• 2:41:15
  Speaker 1: you can't. I have some epic Halloween costumes that would
• 2:41:18
  Speaker 1: prove you wrong.
• 2:41:18
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 2:41:19
  Speaker 1: We're going to do a whimsy test tomorrow during crosstalk.
• 2:41:23
  Speaker 1: Do you have access to a whimsy test? I'm going
• 2:41:25
  Speaker 1: to find one. Okay.
• 2:41:26
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 2:41:26
  Speaker 1: I look forward to that. Stay tuned for The Drive
• 2:41:29
  Speaker 1: with Spence Jackets. That's it for The Sean O'Connell Show.
• 2:41:32
  Speaker 1: We'll do it again tomorrow on ESPN 700, 92.1 FM.