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INTERVIEW: Eric Benét Talks New Single 'Who's Gonna Save Us?', Revolutionary Love Songs, Representation Vs. Power, Jelly Roll + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Every day a week ago up the breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I'm finished for y'all done.
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  Speaker 3: Morning.
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  Speaker 4: Everybody is d J n V jess hilarious, charlamage the guy.
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  Speaker 4: We are the Breakfast Club. Long the roses here as well.
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  Speaker 4: We got a special guest in the building. Indeed, I'm
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  Speaker 4: gonna get in here this morning. So I hear Eric Benay,
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  Speaker 4: Ladies and gentlemen.
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  Speaker 1: You heard about that. I heard.
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  Speaker 5: Man, it is crazy, bro.
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  Speaker 3: They got on a bike on the bike.
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  Speaker 6: You know, so I like, you know, I like to
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  Speaker 6: get the places on the bike, especially in New York.
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  Speaker 5: So I'm riding the.
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  Speaker 6: Bike City Bike City Bike, you know. And you know
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  Speaker 6: you got to ride in the green ship. Yes, and
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  Speaker 6: for the half of block, you know, sometimes the green
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  Speaker 6: ship changes from the right side to the left side.
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  Speaker 5: I'm like a ship. I gotta get over there, a
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  Speaker 5: cop I wasn't It.
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  Speaker 6: Wasn't even a full block, sir, sir, can you pull over?
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  Speaker 6: Let me see some identification, sir on the bike.
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  Speaker 7: You got pulled over on the bike vehicle.
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  Speaker 1: In all my.
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  Speaker 5: I'm fifty nine, all my fifty four years of riding
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  Speaker 5: a bike like never pulled over.
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  Speaker 2: I think it was a t shirt. It was probably my.
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  Speaker 5: Shirt.
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  Speaker 6: While the cop is giving me the ticket, that's a
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  Speaker 6: Jamaican man standing like old Jamaican brothers stand.
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  Speaker 5: He brought up, brought up you see why he did that?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, you know it's like and while the Jamaican man
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  Speaker 6: is saying black man traveled, dead man, Look this happened,
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  Speaker 6: a white dude rides in the opposite direction of the
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  Speaker 6: traffic and I'm like, I'm going to the cop. I'm like, sir, sir.
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  Speaker 6: He's like, well, I'm dealing with you right now.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 5: He can't say that he.
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  Speaker 6: Pulled me over because I was black, but it makes
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  Speaker 6: you yeah, yeah, I guess you can't.
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  Speaker 1: Who's gonna save us?
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  Speaker 2: Who's going hold on, how did this situation resolve?
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  Speaker 8: You gotta take a ticket, two tickets, tickets off.
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  Speaker 1: Melanan number on it.
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  Speaker 2: That is so craz I heard of this.
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  Speaker 5: I'm following the signs and some ship.
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  Speaker 2: Wow biking off lane.
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  Speaker 6: The crazy part, like I said, is while he's giving
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  Speaker 6: me the ticket to Jamaican dude before before we even
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  Speaker 6: saw the white guy riding against traffic to Jamaican Jamaican
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  Speaker 6: guy was like, you know he's doing that yet and period.
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  Speaker 4: So did you think about just taking off because he
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  Speaker 4: wouldn't have caught you.
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  Speaker 5: He wouldn't.
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  Speaker 6: My experience from watching cops and social media, you don't want.
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  Speaker 9: To now because it wouldn't be want How are.
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  Speaker 5: You feeling otherwise? I'm feeling positive, man.
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  Speaker 6: No, I mean no, this in no way is hindered
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  Speaker 6: my day or my my love for the city of
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  Speaker 6: New York. So it's just, you know, one of them things.
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  Speaker 6: I feel great, I got a new single, I'm talking
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  Speaker 6: to y'all.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, it's a great day.
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  Speaker 8: You know, we've been watching you on social media and
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  Speaker 8: you've been increasingly outspoken about politics and current events, so
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  Speaker 8: you know, I figured that was going to translate to
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  Speaker 8: your music and at some point, but what made you
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  Speaker 8: decide that silence wasn't an option anymore for you?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a great question, man. I think you know.
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  Speaker 6: When I was first signed to Warner Brothers back in
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  Speaker 6: the day, and I remember like reading some articles or
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  Speaker 6: seeing some clips on Michael Jackson, and.
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  Speaker 5: It was just kind of the general.
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  Speaker 6: Idea for artists like do not talk about religion, politics,
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  Speaker 6: anything heavy, you know, And I think you know, and
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  Speaker 6: I was signed back in the nineties at Warner brothers,
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  Speaker 6: and I think I was kind of programmed that way,
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  Speaker 6: but then I guess it was a combination of just
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  Speaker 6: getting to a certain age and also just seeing how
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  Speaker 6: incredibly insane the world is, not just within our own backyard,
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  Speaker 6: but like geo politically, and it's like wait, and it's
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  Speaker 6: almost like you have this feeling like you look into
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  Speaker 6: the left and you look into.
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  Speaker 5: The right and it's like, ain't nobody gonna say nothing
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  Speaker 5: about this?
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  Speaker 6: And then it's like people who are just trying to
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  Speaker 6: protect the financial empires that they built, which I guess
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  Speaker 6: is kind of understandable, but at some point you gotta
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  Speaker 6: be like, but something needs to be said, and uh,
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  Speaker 6: and you know it's that thing you get you get
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  Speaker 6: to the aa arp age and you.
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  Speaker 5: Just stop giving the ship.
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  Speaker 6: You know, you just stopped, you care less and less
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  Speaker 6: what to make other people comfortable with what you say.
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  Speaker 5: You know, you know, so it's.
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  Speaker 8: Probably that, especially if you still got your boots on
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  Speaker 8: the ground, right because you know, those people are trying
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  Speaker 8: to protect their financial empires that they built, But what
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  Speaker 8: about the people that have been hurt because of those
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  Speaker 8: financial empires that they built?
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  Speaker 5: That's that's that is exactly the point.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, there's too much of a sentiment of hey,
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  Speaker 6: as long as it got I got mine.
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  Speaker 5: I ain't worried about what's happening over there.
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  Speaker 6: But that's how empires fall, that's how you know, societies tumble,
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  Speaker 6: and that's how the innocent get persecuted.
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  Speaker 5: And so somebody just got to talk. Man.
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  Speaker 4: Has there been any backlash for some of the things
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  Speaker 4: to tell you this morning?
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  Speaker 5: But what some of the backlash?
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  Speaker 6: I would think that the backlash is more like behind
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  Speaker 6: the scenes for me because some of those powers that
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  Speaker 6: be might be some powers that be that are some
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  Speaker 6: of my own powers, and and it'll be like a
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  Speaker 6: phone call. It's like, come on, bro, like tone it
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  Speaker 6: down a bit, and I'm like, nah, man, I can't
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  Speaker 6: do that. It's like, you know, so wherever the chips
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  Speaker 6: are going to fall, that's where they're going to fall.
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  Speaker 6: I think publicly, so far right now, it's it's all
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  Speaker 6: been for the most part, I think positiveatively received, which
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  Speaker 6: just encourages my ass to do it more so.
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  Speaker 5: Just like that.
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  Speaker 8: It's interesting though, because I think about Marvin Gaye, I
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  Speaker 8: think it's Stevie Wonder. I think a Curtis may feel
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  Speaker 8: they all made socially conscious music, right, So do you
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  Speaker 8: think today's artists are encouraged to do that or does
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  Speaker 8: the industry just reward something different because I feel like
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  Speaker 8: artists could do it if they wanted to.
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  Speaker 6: I think true artists are true artists by nature. And
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  Speaker 6: I think there are people who choose to be famous.
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  Speaker 6: I think there are people who have some talent and
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  Speaker 6: just want to leverage that talent for financial game.
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  Speaker 5: But I think true artists feel as though.
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  Speaker 6: They don't have a choice but to have their art
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  Speaker 6: be a reflection of the world, you know. And I
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  Speaker 6: think that, you know, I don't. I like to think
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  Speaker 6: that I aspire to be a true artist.
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  Speaker 5: You know.
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  Speaker 6: And I'm not knocking anybody who's like, Yo, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 6: play it safe, because that is very lucrative and you
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  Speaker 6: can build some powerful empires.
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  Speaker 5: Off of I'm gonna keep it right in the middle.
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  Speaker 5: I ain't gonna say too much about that. I ain't
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  Speaker 5: gonna say too much about that.
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  Speaker 6: I'm gonna keep doing my little thing and getting invited
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  Speaker 6: to this and get promoted for that, and I'm gonna
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  Speaker 6: get this TV show in that move and I think, hey,
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  Speaker 6: that's beautiful, but it you know, it just doesn't feel
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  Speaker 6: right for some people. I think, I think you know
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  Speaker 6: you're one of them, right, So, and y'all are very
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  Speaker 6: vocal about how you feel about shit. So it's like,
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  Speaker 6: I don't know, that's kind of where I'm coming from.
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  Speaker 9: Did you because I feel like your videos pick up
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  Speaker 9: because how honesture, but you're also really consistent about posting them.
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  Speaker 9: Was it your issues with like I've seen you talk
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  Speaker 9: about the media landscape and how you feel like people
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  Speaker 9: like Joe Rogan or Theo vonn are like unfairly platformed, right,
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  Speaker 9: Was that why you decided.
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  Speaker 7: To be consistent almost become a voice.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a great question.
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  Speaker 6: I think I think I just have a visceral reaction
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  Speaker 6: to dumb shit and it's like if I send it,
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  Speaker 6: and I think that's part of my problem, and I
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  Speaker 6: guess part of the reason why, because I think people
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  Speaker 6: appreciate the spontaneity of some of my posts because I
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  Speaker 6: don't really think about it.
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  Speaker 5: I don't curate it. I don't I'll just be like
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  Speaker 5: I'll see some shit and I'll just.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, I don't really think about it, and.
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  Speaker 5: That's part of the appeal.
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  Speaker 6: So with the whole like manisphere, like that's it just
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  Speaker 6: infuriated me so much on on like a different chronological times,
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  Speaker 6: like it infuriated infuriated me seeing how big these platforms,
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  Speaker 6: you know, the THEO I mean, god, you know, hey,
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  Speaker 6: doing your thing, you getting your money, but watching the
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  Speaker 6: platforms explode great. But then the types of things and
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  Speaker 6: the types of consciousness that you're perpetrating on those platforms,
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  Speaker 6: and the types of of divisive people that you celebrate
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  Speaker 6: on those platforms, and then this, and then the politicians
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  Speaker 6: that you seem to show a little fealty to who
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  Speaker 6: are just doing horrific have horrific policies that infuriated me.
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  Speaker 6: And then after the whole thing, now he's in office,
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  Speaker 6: and now you got.
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  Speaker 5: The damn gall to say, dude, I didn't know it
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  Speaker 5: was going to go like this.
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  Speaker 6: Bro, It's like he's he's I thought he came on here,
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  Speaker 6: he was a cool guy, and I didn't know it
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  Speaker 6: was going to be like that.
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  Speaker 5: And I'm like, what do you mean you didn't know
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  Speaker 5: it was going to be like that?
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  Speaker 6: From you know, from from from the Central Park five
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  Speaker 6: to like you know, being you know, stopping black people
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  Speaker 6: from living in your apartments, to like just all his
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  Speaker 6: whole life.
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  Speaker 5: What are you talking about? You didn't know? And it
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  Speaker 5: just see look at me. It's like it just it
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  Speaker 5: just kind of.
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  Speaker 8: I feel like even though those guys did get canned
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  Speaker 8: because I mean, shout Donald Trump is the greatest comments.
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  Speaker 6: In their defense, but he has been conning his entire life,
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  Speaker 6: so it's down to a sith lord like dark sided like.
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  Speaker 2: Greatest comment, yeah, greatest coming.
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  Speaker 8: So I do think that when they can acknowledge that
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  Speaker 8: shit is fucked up, we should say, yeah it is.
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  Speaker 2: I agree, you know, I mean because white people ain't
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  Speaker 2: listening to us. Yeah, but so much.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. I think I said that in a post once.
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  Speaker 5: It's like like we can put we can.
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  Speaker 6: Be like, look look at this over here, and they
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  Speaker 6: won't acknowledge it until they say, hey, guys, guess.
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  Speaker 5: What we were wrong? And no, you're absolutely right.
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  Speaker 8: That's my biggest thing with this whole era that we're
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  Speaker 8: in right now. And I see something happening with Trump, now,
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  Speaker 8: I say, what a white people.
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  Speaker 2: Are gonna do about it? That's my question?
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  Speaker 8: What are you white people gonna do about what's happening
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  Speaker 8: in this country?
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  Speaker 5: Do you know what? Man?
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  Speaker 6: The thing that is crazy to me is it's like
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  Speaker 6: ever since, ever since we stopped being hunter gatherers and
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  Speaker 6: and and humanity started forming governments and cities, the stick
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  Speaker 6: has always been, Okay, I'm gonna separate these two groups
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  Speaker 6: of people so that I can control the whole thing.
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  Speaker 6: And it's like you still don't see it, Like it
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  Speaker 6: has been consistently happening for millennia, and it's like you
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  Speaker 6: you still they're still.
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  Speaker 5: Doing the same thing. Like like Lyndon B. Johnson said it,
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  Speaker 5: you know, you you teach.
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  Speaker 6: You you you you teach a white man to feel
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  Speaker 6: like he's better that.
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  Speaker 3: You teach thee.
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  Speaker 6: Then the richest black man and you can rob him
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  Speaker 6: blind and he just they just got it on tape.
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  Speaker 6: But that's been the strategy the whole time. And it's
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  Speaker 6: like y'all don't like, y'all don't see it yet. It's
• 11:55
  Speaker 6: just I don't know.
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  Speaker 8: I like to say, the rich white man convinced the
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  Speaker 8: poor black man. I mean, the rich white man convinced
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  Speaker 8: the poor white man. And he's poor because the niggas
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  Speaker 8: boom when niggas trains immigrants.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, anybody who's others, you convinced them to fight
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  Speaker 6: against each other. You got the whole kitten kaboodle bro
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  Speaker 6: and it's just as effective as it was, you know
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  Speaker 6: with King George and shoot Inga's Khan, and it's just
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  Speaker 6: as effective.
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  Speaker 8: Do you think artists have a responsibility to speak out?
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  Speaker 8: Are that an unfair expectation?
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  Speaker 6: I think it might be overly optimistic at this point.
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  Speaker 5: I think it would be.
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  Speaker 6: It would be best for society as a whole if not.
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  Speaker 5: Just artists, but everybody spoke out.
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  Speaker 6: You know, we got the first trillionaire in the world,
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  Speaker 6: which makes absolutely no fucking sense today, and it's like
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  Speaker 6: people are celebrating this, and it's like you're celebrating that
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  Speaker 6: because you've been conditioned to believe that he's on your side.
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  Speaker 6: And it's like, I think, to answer your question, yeah,
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  Speaker 6: I would love to see not just artists, but I
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  Speaker 6: would love to see the construction workers, the you know,
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  Speaker 6: the the people who work at Subway just like start
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  Speaker 6: being more vocal.
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  Speaker 4: The crazy thing is, like you said, we used to
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  Speaker 4: get more music like that, and not just an R
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  Speaker 4: and B and hip hop as well.
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  Speaker 3: We would get a self destruction, we would get these records.
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  Speaker 3: You're an I t y but.
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  Speaker 4: Just makes it, you know, we talked about it's gonna
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  Speaker 4: be all right, But we don't get more of that
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  Speaker 4: type of music.
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  Speaker 3: Anymore, especially with with with R and B. You don't
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  Speaker 3: hear it as much.
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  Speaker 4: Do hear people coming together and doing things together anymore?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah?
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  Speaker 6: I think I think it's intentional that the opposite of
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  Speaker 6: what you're describing has has been the biggest money maker,
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  Speaker 6: and it is. It is a gilded muffle, you know,
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  Speaker 6: it's like a golden a golden gag, like, hey, keep
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  Speaker 6: doing this, you keep you keep singing and rapping about
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  Speaker 6: this bullshit. We got you, and it's just frustrating, you know.
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  Speaker 6: And see, I didn't mean to come here and be.
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  Speaker 1: All black panther with black leather, Bobby, thank you?
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  Speaker 3: Do you want to save us though?
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  Speaker 1: Us?
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  Speaker 5: Us?
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  Speaker 6: I mean, there's so much power just within our own
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  Speaker 6: black community. I mean I heard y'all talking about Target before.
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  Speaker 6: It's just like we.
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  Speaker 5: Have so much power that we don't tap into and
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  Speaker 5: and it's up to us. It's up to us.
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  Speaker 6: It's interesting because I talked about my book before we started,
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  Speaker 6: but I just I just finished writing this book and
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  Speaker 6: it's it's a mid grade. I'm a nerd, always been
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  Speaker 6: like a science fiction Nerd. It's a mid grade fantasy
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  Speaker 6: adventure novel, but the subtext is about tapping in to
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  Speaker 6: your true voice, your real power, realizing that sometimes the
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  Speaker 6: world's you know, it's a multidimensional fantasy, but I'm basically saying,
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  Speaker 6: sometimes the worlds that you find yourself in that you
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  Speaker 6: feel completely out of place and not heard, those worlds
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  Speaker 6: have been waiting for the right person to come along
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  Speaker 6: and help lead them out of darkness. And you know,
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  Speaker 6: so it's like, I think that's within all of us,
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  Speaker 6: and it's just we often feel, you know, whether it's
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  Speaker 6: imposter syndrome or it's like nobody wants to hear what
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  Speaker 6: agun you know, for whatever reason, because of some childhood
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  Speaker 6: trauma or this, that and the other. We feel like
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  Speaker 6: we can't or our voice is just going to be
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  Speaker 6: a drop in the ocean and won't make a difference.
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  Speaker 5: But it's the opposite. It's the collect the strength that
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  Speaker 5: can make change.
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  Speaker 8: Right, You've always been socially conscious though, right, Like, I
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  Speaker 8: remember when I used.
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  Speaker 2: To think was the earthy.
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  Speaker 5: Guy you had the dreads.
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  Speaker 2: I would see. I remember I saw.
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  Speaker 5: Guy.
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  Speaker 8: That's the first time I think I seen you on
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  Speaker 8: evering shoes.
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  Speaker 2: On, but I'm back in the day.
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  Speaker 5: I still get my earth in my grounding. H Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: I preach on that all the time and people think
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  Speaker 6: it's some mumbo jumbo and somebody it's just it's science
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  Speaker 6: base man.
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  Speaker 5: It's like the earth is a battery. You gotta take
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  Speaker 5: your shoes off.
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  Speaker 6: You got a plant in the ground and for inflammation
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  Speaker 6: and all kinds of other stuff down See.
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  Speaker 3: Does that ever bother you when like people.
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  Speaker 4: Define you and make you that guy like you know,
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  Speaker 4: like Charlomy said, you know, we looked at you as
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  Speaker 4: the earthy guy, or even your past relationships where they
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  Speaker 4: always go back to that, but you didn't moved on
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  Speaker 4: and do other things like does that ever stick to you?
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  Speaker 6: I'm I'm I'm usually I'm used, usually grateful to even
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  Speaker 6: be considered even if it's like not really.
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  Speaker 5: Understanding who I am.
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  Speaker 6: It's like maybe there's some little thing you thought about me,
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  Speaker 6: and because that's that's an opportunity for me to be like,
• 17:16
  Speaker 6: oh cool, you get to know me now.
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  Speaker 5: So yeah I feel that.
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  Speaker 9: So you can be performing your song at uh J Peck.
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  Speaker 5: New Jersey, So the new song I still got to
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: teach the band the song.
• 17:33
  Speaker 7: Yeah, so you can perform all your all your other.
• 17:35
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, but you know that's just that's a great idea.
• 17:38
  Speaker 6: I need to get in the I need to get
• 17:39
  Speaker 6: in the lab and teach them the song. The song
• 17:41
  Speaker 6: is produced by brilliant DJ Camper Young Brother and Uh
• 17:48
  Speaker 6: wrote it with Camper Felly the voice, who's a brilliant
• 17:52
  Speaker 6: songwriter who's killing it right now. So yeah, I need
• 17:55
  Speaker 6: to I'm going to perform that one and all the
• 17:58
  Speaker 6: old you know urb and er song.
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: From back when.
• 18:06
  Speaker 7: Kay, You're gonna post some more videos in the gym,
• 18:08
  Speaker 7: are you?
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: Hey?
• 18:10
  Speaker 6: As long as I as long as I keep inching
• 18:12
  Speaker 6: away at this mid section, I'm gonna be proud of
• 18:16
  Speaker 6: this ship. I'm gonna be posting this ship. M.
• 18:18
  Speaker 9: He posted a video in the gym, and then he
• 18:20
  Speaker 9: said that his DMS was being blown up by oh that.
• 18:27
  Speaker 7: The gay community. But he said, go ahead tell them
• 18:29
  Speaker 7: what you're saying.
• 18:30
  Speaker 6: Hey, Hey, so I'm in the gym, and you know,
• 18:34
  Speaker 6: I'm proud of my little sixty year old body. I'm like, hey,
• 18:38
  Speaker 6: look at me with the phone and the mirror type ship.
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: The d ms.
• 18:45
  Speaker 6: Of the community, Oh my god, yes, the gay community.
• 18:50
  Speaker 6: They was coming fat. They were like, I got DMS, like.
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: Like I was signing in DA. Are you sure you don't.
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: I was like, okay, But.
• 19:01
  Speaker 6: The thing is, when gay people start recognizing you look good,
• 19:06
  Speaker 6: I'm like, that means that means working a gay homeboy.
• 19:12
  Speaker 6: Every straight man should have a should have a gay homie.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: I think so.
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: I think so.
• 19:19
  Speaker 7: I said, you look good.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: She said he's sixty. He looked the good, the good.
• 19:30
  Speaker 7: Looking at that video. You was like sixty. I'm like,
• 19:32
  Speaker 7: he looks good. What are you doing like.
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: Here grounding?
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: Uh?
• 19:39
  Speaker 7: Yeah, he ain't on the same ground you want.
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: Oh man, I'm trying.
• 19:43
  Speaker 6: Sorry, you got the smooth skin looking.
• 19:47
  Speaker 7: Now he's he's lotioned and we're grateful, going.
• 19:54
  Speaker 6: No, I like you look the good. I was, I
• 19:57
  Speaker 6: like that, But what do you do?
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: Like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 20:05
  Speaker 6: I mean it's probably stuff that everybody already knows. It's
• 20:10
  Speaker 6: like I cut out, but everybody knows, but a lot
• 20:13
  Speaker 6: of people don't do I cut I stopped drinking alcohol
• 20:17
  Speaker 6: just just just toxic on so many level.
• 20:20
  Speaker 7: Age, did you stop drinking alcohol?
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: Okay, I'm gonna tell the truth now. A couple of
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: years ago.
• 20:24
  Speaker 9: Okay, like I said, when I got up a little bit.
• 20:27
  Speaker 9: You know, a certain age I might stop because all
• 20:30
  Speaker 9: the people who do y'all age yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: And I never drink heavily. But you know, right before
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: I go on stage.
• 20:38
  Speaker 6: Scott used to be my thing. Used to get me
• 20:40
  Speaker 6: some macallum and I would do a couple of shots
• 20:45
  Speaker 6: before I go on. So I get a little bit
• 20:47
  Speaker 6: more loose, be a little bit more Dean Martin, like
• 20:49
  Speaker 6: say some ship I probably shouldn't say on stage. With
• 20:52
  Speaker 6: the alcohol, and then, you know, I think it's just
• 20:56
  Speaker 6: like everything else. It's like when I wake up in
• 21:00
  Speaker 6: the morning, I'm feeling it more now as opposed to
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: when I did. And I think, but other than the alcohol,
• 21:06
  Speaker 6: it's less processed foods.
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: It's like I don't do juices so much.
• 21:13
  Speaker 6: I don't do fried stuff. I stay away from heavy
• 21:15
  Speaker 6: things to digest, like beef and pork, and I try
• 21:18
  Speaker 6: to stick to pescatarian. But I do be eating me
• 21:21
  Speaker 6: some some some good chickens sometimes, like stay away from
• 21:25
  Speaker 6: the fry.
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 21:25
  Speaker 6: All the like I said, all the ship, we know
• 21:28
  Speaker 6: that we won't do all the ship. We tell ourselves, well,
• 21:30
  Speaker 6: if I just doing a little bit, it won't hurt.
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: It's gonna hurt. It's gonna hurt. And then the smoking
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: and the vaping, and it's like, oh my god.
• 21:39
  Speaker 8: You know, I want to ask you about you're talking
• 21:41
  Speaker 8: about getting the DMS right. And I remember in two
• 21:44
  Speaker 8: thousand and two you were like the first person I
• 21:45
  Speaker 8: ever heard say they had a sex addiction.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: How does social media does it called you to relapse
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: get them and looking at them women?
• 21:57
  Speaker 6: Well, I'll say this, I'll say this, I ever claimed
• 22:01
  Speaker 6: or said to have a sex addiction.
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: I did go.
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: I did go.
• 22:08
  Speaker 6: But I want to say that I wouldn't say I
• 22:14
  Speaker 6: was bullshit.
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: I would say.
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: I would say it was an opportunity for me to
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: get to know myself better than I've ever heard.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: What does a sex rehab break break down?
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: What do you do in a sex rehab place?
• 22:29
  Speaker 6: Well, let me tell it to you like this when
• 22:32
  Speaker 6: I when I first went, the definition was if you've
• 22:37
  Speaker 6: ever been unfaithful in your primary relationship or a marriage.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: You got a sex addiction.
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: You got a sex addiction. So it's like, do you
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: agree with that or do you don't?
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: I agree, you agree?
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 23:00
  Speaker 9: Holly Berry said like not too long ago that she
• 23:03
  Speaker 9: felt like that was a BS claim to.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: No, I feel what he's saying.
• 23:08
  Speaker 6: But do you do you feel like if you have
• 23:11
  Speaker 6: ever been unfaithful in a primary relationship or a marriage,
• 23:16
  Speaker 6: then you then have a sex addiction.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: You said you were sick.
• 23:24
  Speaker 6: You were sick, but but as a as a blanket,
• 23:27
  Speaker 6: as a blanket statement.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: As a blanket statement. Yeah, so how did you get
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: over the sickness for therapy? Yeah, change your lifestyle.
• 23:40
  Speaker 6: I I I never felt like and I still don't
• 23:44
  Speaker 6: feel like I was or am an addict.
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: I felt like I was dealing with and here's the thing,
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: here's a careful thing, like whenever.
• 23:55
  Speaker 6: And I never really talked about this public because I
• 23:58
  Speaker 6: feel like, basically, when it comes down to it, I
• 24:02
  Speaker 6: fucked up.
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: I was dumb, I did stupid things. I was I
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: was selfish.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: But that's what sick people do, though.
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: That's what not just sick people. Do you feel me?
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: But what I was going to say is like, I
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: feel I feel like if I.
• 24:18
  Speaker 6: Got too much into the why I fucked up, it
• 24:22
  Speaker 6: starts to feel like you're deluding accountability.
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: For just being a stupid, selfish person.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: Why so you don't do it?
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: You have exactly that's why exactly to your.
• 24:34
  Speaker 9: Point, because I think it's because to the people that
• 24:36
  Speaker 9: you hurt in that that process exactly, they aren't in
• 24:39
  Speaker 9: a space where they want to receive that because it
• 24:41
  Speaker 9: just feels like you're not acknowledging the hurt that you
• 24:44
  Speaker 9: call it.
• 24:44
  Speaker 6: Right, So the first thing you gotta do when you
• 24:46
  Speaker 6: fuck up in life is is own it, take accountability,
• 24:50
  Speaker 6: and say, you know what, Maybe.
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: They're they're people who.
• 24:54
  Speaker 6: Have spent their whole life coming up with the reasons
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: why in your past trauma and this, that and the other,
• 24:59
  Speaker 6: and a lot of that is true, but really it
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: comes down to you were dealing with some things that
• 25:05
  Speaker 6: you weren't emotionally prepared to deal with, or or you
• 25:08
  Speaker 6: were put into a situation that felt so overwhelming to
• 25:12
  Speaker 6: you that you just did some stupid fucking shit. On
• 25:15
  Speaker 6: the fact that you did dumb shit, and then you
• 25:18
  Speaker 6: can do whatever you need to do.
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: Sit in the.
• 25:23
  Speaker 6: Pain so that you can. Okay, let me learn everything
• 25:28
  Speaker 6: I can so that I can grow and evolve.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: That's not an addict though.
• 25:34
  Speaker 8: Accountability over time is a gateway to trust, right because
• 25:38
  Speaker 8: when we see someone acting with accountability, we gain the
• 25:40
  Speaker 8: evidence we need that.
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: Hundred percent, hundred percent behavior, right.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: But the whole thing when you think of addict, right,
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: you think of somebody.
• 25:48
  Speaker 7: Like addicted to how right you need to do something to.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: Stop, something to smoke.
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: So when you think an addict, you're like, everybody's sucking
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: everything because he's just addicted to sex.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: He just has to have sex that much. But that
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: wasn't the case or.
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: Was it absolutely not? Absolutely not.
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: It's like so many It's like when I go back,
• 26:04
  Speaker 6: when I think about that time in my life.
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: There's so many things that were not true, that were
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: that were said and just believe to be true.
• 26:13
  Speaker 6: You just like, you know what, let me just let
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: the world say what they're gonna say.
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna go fall back and constantly I'm gonna realize
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: I fucked up. I did transcendentally dumb shit because it
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: was there.
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: And I'm going to try my best to grow from
• 26:35
  Speaker 6: that and learn from that.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: Did you grow out of that situation to make sure.
• 26:38
  Speaker 6: That I honestly felt like I have grown and become
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: a better person. And sometimes that's the crazy thing. It's
• 26:44
  Speaker 6: not the crazy thing, but that's kind of how life happens.
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: You find yourself in the consequences of your fucked up
• 26:50
  Speaker 6: actions and then because of what you have to sit
• 26:54
  Speaker 6: in because of that, you actually that's the catalyst for
• 26:59
  Speaker 6: become make better.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: I think, well, well, that's that's that's interesting.
• 27:04
  Speaker 8: I wonder why didn't you feel the need to, you know,
• 27:07
  Speaker 8: clear yourself in any way before? Could I even think
• 27:10
  Speaker 8: about like when jay Z said the line, you almost
• 27:12
  Speaker 8: went Erica Barnet, let the badest girl in the world
• 27:14
  Speaker 8: get away, like Nigga, never go Eric Breney, Like you
• 27:16
  Speaker 8: didn't want feel to need to clear up any of that.
• 27:19
  Speaker 6: Ever, there's a general I mean, I mean, there's a
• 27:23
  Speaker 6: general idea that sometimes in the attempt to defend yourself,
• 27:31
  Speaker 6: you kind of add flame to some fire.
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: So and there was.
• 27:37
  Speaker 6: Definitely an argument for me to go on this rampage
• 27:41
  Speaker 6: of hey, but this is this is really what happened.
• 27:44
  Speaker 6: But at the end of the day, I fucked up.
• 27:46
  Speaker 6: I was unfaithful. So it's like, I can't really defend
• 27:50
  Speaker 6: that part, so let me just fall back and just
• 27:52
  Speaker 6: concentrate on me.
• 27:53
  Speaker 9: And you had tried to fix it, like y'all had
• 27:55
  Speaker 9: gotten back together. You were trying to work out the
• 27:57
  Speaker 9: marriage at the time, right, Like is that part of
• 27:59
  Speaker 9: the reason why too kind of just let it.
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: I would I would, I would say that's partly true.
• 28:08
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I kind of felt like the whole
• 28:11
  Speaker 6: aftermath was just in a lot of ways just the
• 28:15
  Speaker 6: consequence of what happens, and it might have appeared to
• 28:19
  Speaker 6: be trying to fix something into maybe some ways it was,
• 28:22
  Speaker 6: but at the end of the situation, it was like.
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: Coming to the realization that it was.
• 28:29
  Speaker 6: Over and it's time to move on, and it's time
• 28:35
  Speaker 6: for me to do what I gotta do to learn
• 28:37
  Speaker 6: what I need to learn out of this situation.
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: And yeah, did the jay Z line?
• 28:43
  Speaker 6: It didn't, Which is funny because when the jay Z
• 28:46
  Speaker 6: line came out, I was actually in Cuba with my
• 28:50
  Speaker 6: people and we're we're posted up in Cuba. When my
• 28:55
  Speaker 6: first time in Cuba, it was really exciting, and my
• 28:58
  Speaker 6: boy he's looking at a phone and there's this article.
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: It's like, hey, look at this.
• 29:04
  Speaker 6: Read this, and the article was like Eric Venet outside
• 29:07
  Speaker 6: jay Z's house, screaming and screaming obscenities.
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: It was like it was reported, like what's happening, And
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: it's like, ain't that media? No?
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: I was.
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: I wasn't mad.
• 29:20
  Speaker 6: I I mean I understand, you know, the the creative
• 29:25
  Speaker 6: and artistic beast that hip hop is.
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: And no, what was it? Man?
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: Did that affects you your new relationship at all? Bringing
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: back to BS all that.
• 29:35
  Speaker 6: No, I mean it's it's like by that time. My wife,
• 29:40
  Speaker 6: by the way, Manuela. First of all, I just want
• 29:43
  Speaker 6: to say this before I know time is limited. She
• 29:45
  Speaker 6: has a nonprofit foundation called in a Perfect World Please
• 29:50
  Speaker 6: go like like Magic Johnson, Quincy Jones have been supporters
• 29:54
  Speaker 6: in a Perfect World dot org, please go supporter. She's
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: all about uplifting children. She's built for houses all across
• 30:01
  Speaker 6: the world.
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: No, but to answer your question, I think, yo, that
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: didn't hurt.
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: I mean by that time, we we were very well
• 30:13
  Speaker 6: aware of each other's life and you know what was
• 30:16
  Speaker 6: in the closet, who we are as people, and knowing
• 30:20
  Speaker 6: that things like that are going to be thrown at
• 30:22
  Speaker 6: me from time to time.
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: So no, not at all.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: Dope.
• 30:25
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it is dope what she does.
• 30:28
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's really incredible. She's really built something amazing.
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: So please mess Yes, yes.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: Yes, just about music? Do you think love songs can
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: be revolutionary?
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: Absolutely? I think true love is revolutionary.
• 30:48
  Speaker 6: I think the thing about art is and it's kind
• 30:51
  Speaker 6: of counterintuitive.
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: I think.
• 30:56
  Speaker 6: The more specific a subject is that you write about,
• 31:00
  Speaker 6: the more broader the reach can be. You know, And
• 31:04
  Speaker 6: that's kind of counterintuitive, right You think you think, oh,
• 31:07
  Speaker 6: I need to write my lyrics and my songs need
• 31:09
  Speaker 6: to be about something broader for people to really feel it.
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: I found that that's not true. I think the more specific.
• 31:17
  Speaker 6: You make it to your own experience, whether it's love,
• 31:20
  Speaker 6: whether it's something else, you make it extremely specific, and
• 31:23
  Speaker 6: in that specificity, you're going to reach more people because
• 31:26
  Speaker 6: it's real exactly exactly. So, I think when you write
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: a true love song and it's truly specific to you,
• 31:37
  Speaker 6: it's going to tap into to a strengthen people that
• 31:42
  Speaker 6: can allow them to be what was the word that
• 31:45
  Speaker 6: you use, revolutionary?
• 31:48
  Speaker 7: Who do you think is on that right now? In
• 31:50
  Speaker 7: R and B love song music vibes?
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: Like?
• 31:52
  Speaker 7: What artists do you think would you point to?
• 31:58
  Speaker 6: Not? I'm not gonna sit up here and had a
• 32:00
  Speaker 6: light of y'all because I'm just not all that hip
• 32:03
  Speaker 6: on a lot of new music right now.
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: Who do I really like?
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: I like?
• 32:11
  Speaker 6: I like my man uh Duran, Yeah, I like my
• 32:17
  Speaker 6: man because because not only is he a powerful vocalist, but.
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: He's so authentically himself.
• 32:25
  Speaker 6: And anytime there's yeah, anytime there's an artist or good, bad,
• 32:31
  Speaker 6: or and different, anytime there's an artist who is authentic,
• 32:35
  Speaker 6: anytime there's anybody a politician you know, good.
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: As I said, good batter and different Trump.
• 32:42
  Speaker 6: As long as you are like authentically yourself, people are
• 32:46
  Speaker 6: gonna love that and be attracted to it.
• 32:48
  Speaker 7: Yeah, you know you're not listening to jelly roll.
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: Not my favorite?
• 32:56
  Speaker 8: Okay, please break down to He's very talented music is
• 33:01
  Speaker 8: socially conscious.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: But he did not.
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, okay, and and and again again.
• 33:07
  Speaker 6: I'm going to I'm going to not get up here
• 33:11
  Speaker 6: and lie and say that I know all jelly Rolls music.
• 33:16
  Speaker 6: I think that post that I did about him was
• 33:19
  Speaker 6: another one of those visceral grab my phone you know.
• 33:23
  Speaker 6: Sometimes I should probably do some research. I probably should,
• 33:26
  Speaker 6: but I just kind of feel like in this day
• 33:31
  Speaker 6: and age, when everything that's happening, if somebody asked you
• 33:35
  Speaker 6: a direct question and and you either use ignorance, religion,
• 33:42
  Speaker 6: or something else for why you can't speak against whatever
• 33:49
  Speaker 6: your political beliefs are. Can you just speak against like
• 33:52
  Speaker 6: children being murdered.
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: Can you can you? Can you speak against people getting raped?
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: Can you?
• 33:58
  Speaker 6: I mean, and every time I see somebody take that
• 34:03
  Speaker 6: question to say, oh, well, I'm just a child of God.
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: I don't speak on that type of stuff.
• 34:08
  Speaker 8: It's just I thought he said he had a lack
• 34:11
  Speaker 8: of information maybe or.
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: That or something.
• 34:14
  Speaker 7: People people shouldn't care.
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: What's that you said?
• 34:19
  Speaker 9: When asks about uh? When I asked about the things
• 34:22
  Speaker 9: he said, people shouldn't care to hear my opinion. I'm
• 34:24
  Speaker 9: a dumb break neck.
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 34:27
  Speaker 8: The reason I say I don't mind that is because
• 34:28
  Speaker 8: you kind of damned if you do your damn if
• 34:30
  Speaker 8: you don't.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: Because if you say something.
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: As an artist that's absolutely true.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: And it's smart, everybody's like yeah.
• 34:34
  Speaker 8: But if you say something that people don't agree with,
• 34:36
  Speaker 8: it be like he shut the fuck up, shut up
• 34:37
  Speaker 8: and dribble.
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: He's not knowledgeable of but talking about and drive.
• 34:41
  Speaker 6: But don't you think even in that case, if if
• 34:45
  Speaker 6: it's a situation where innocent people are being murdered and
• 34:49
  Speaker 6: rights are being taken away from people, even in that
• 34:52
  Speaker 6: I'm an ignorant redneck.
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: I don't know about ship.
• 34:57
  Speaker 6: Can't you can't you even in that moment say hey, hey,
• 35:01
  Speaker 6: I'm not for all that bullshit. I need to go
• 35:04
  Speaker 6: get some more information and learn a little bit more.
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 35:08
  Speaker 6: I just like I said, I had a visceral reaction
• 35:11
  Speaker 6: that maybe, like you said, yeah, but I still don't
• 35:15
  Speaker 6: like that. Like you can still yeah, you can still
• 35:19
  Speaker 6: speak against atrocities and you know, not adhere yourself to
• 35:27
  Speaker 6: a particular political side and even stay neutral politically. But
• 35:32
  Speaker 6: don't you think murdering any innocent.
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: People is bad?
• 35:36
  Speaker 6: So it's like then say that, you know, don't just
• 35:40
  Speaker 6: dance around. Well, I'm just dumb old person, I don't
• 35:43
  Speaker 6: know stuff. Keep keep supporting me and giving me money.
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: It's like I just man, just just bugs me.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: Do you think black people have confused representation with real power?
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: Damn, you'd be going in there.
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  Speaker 6: Going I think, uh to some degree yes, uh, But
• 36:09
  Speaker 6: kind of adjacent to that question, what what what? What
• 36:17
  Speaker 6: is unsettling to me is how real real power has
• 36:24
  Speaker 6: become a shield?
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: Almost two? How do I want to say this? Dang
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: y'all got me off? Philosophical up in this Muskrutcher.
• 36:33
  Speaker 7: It's just normally like shorter and it's.
• 36:36
  Speaker 6: Shorter, and it's usually yelling in the camera. What's frustrating
• 36:40
  Speaker 6: to me is fame and money has become almost a
• 36:44
  Speaker 6: shield to accountability, you know, And I think not just
• 36:48
  Speaker 6: Black people, but I think people in general see that
• 36:51
  Speaker 6: because I think there are certain celebrities we don't have
• 36:53
  Speaker 6: to say who who have done horrific things and they're
• 36:56
  Speaker 6: not so distant past, but and to varying degrees, But
• 37:02
  Speaker 6: because of a certain layer of protection of money and fame.
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: Oh but I like the songs, Oh but I like
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: them in movies.
• 37:12
  Speaker 6: There is a certain amount of power in that protection,
• 37:17
  Speaker 6: and I think people are drawn to that because but
• 37:20
  Speaker 6: then it gets to a certain point where if your
• 37:22
  Speaker 6: dirt just becomes so heinously huge, that shield is only
• 37:28
  Speaker 6: going to last so long.
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: So that separation of music and who the person is
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: though exactly so, I.
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: Think I think people people are.
• 37:39
  Speaker 6: Not only attracted to but all also a kind of
• 37:42
  Speaker 6: like aspire to that shield that fame and fame and
• 37:47
  Speaker 6: money and power will bring an individual for their individual
• 37:52
  Speaker 6: fuck ups.
• 37:52
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I think that, you know, black people
• 37:55
  Speaker 8: want that shield a lot of times because they want
• 37:58
  Speaker 8: that power to protect us as a whole.
• 38:01
  Speaker 6: I'm not saying yeah, because of how historically, like, Yo,
• 38:05
  Speaker 6: how many times do we keep gotta get fucked over?
• 38:09
  Speaker 6: We got an administration now like taking down Tusky year
• 38:13
  Speaker 6: and like all these famous people who have contributed to
• 38:17
  Speaker 6: the greatness of America, they just happen to be black,
• 38:20
  Speaker 6: and this administration is taking down all that proof onlness.
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: It's like, Yo, we we get a couple free passes.
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: And I think, yeah, I agree with you there.
• 38:32
  Speaker 8: And that's the reason I asked it, because when you
• 38:33
  Speaker 8: say who's going to save us, like, it's going to
• 38:34
  Speaker 8: take power, like real power, and I'm not sure people
• 38:38
  Speaker 8: know what that is, are what that looks like, because
• 38:41
  Speaker 8: we're just always so busy wanting representation.
• 38:45
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that what I'm trying to say in
• 38:47
  Speaker 6: the song is the power that you're talking about, which
• 38:51
  Speaker 6: I know maybe this is overly optimistic, but I still
• 38:56
  Speaker 6: believe it's possible because over history we have united, we
• 39:00
  Speaker 6: have utilized our voices, whether it was the boycott, the
• 39:04
  Speaker 6: bus boycott from from Doctor King and and or or
• 39:09
  Speaker 6: other times in history where we did unite.
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: I think that's real power.
• 39:15
  Speaker 6: That's that's transcendental power. That's not temporary power. It's only
• 39:19
  Speaker 6: like we only tap into it once in a while,
• 39:24
  Speaker 6: where where if we just galvanized it, codified it like
• 39:28
  Speaker 6: this is us and US isn't just black people. It's
• 39:32
  Speaker 6: like the subjugated, the people who whose power just continues
• 39:36
  Speaker 6: to be like chipped away while we're creating trillionaires.
• 39:42
  Speaker 8: That's why I keep asking white people, what are you
• 39:44
  Speaker 8: gonna do about this? You see what they're doing us
• 39:46
  Speaker 8: in the South, Like you know the redistrict laws. You know,
• 39:49
  Speaker 8: they've definitely weakened our voting power.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: So how about that?
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: So, so white people, what are you gonna do about it?
• 39:55
  Speaker 6: I one hundred percent agree with you. It's like we
• 39:59
  Speaker 6: have to have like allies to come out of this. Yeah,
• 40:05
  Speaker 6: And it's all about tapping into.
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: Like like I said, it's.
• 40:09
  Speaker 6: Like the strength of your voice, the power that you
• 40:12
  Speaker 6: have that you never tapped into because you felt like
• 40:16
  Speaker 6: you were insignificance or not enough.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: Let's play Who's gonna save us?
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: Man who's forming tonight at the NJ pack to make
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: sure you come out and see him tonight. Come see,
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: let's get into the joint. We appreciate you for joining us,
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: and let's get gonna save us.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: You gotta come back when you book come out.
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: I really am.
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: And if y'all like it, will you please like put
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: it behind you? All right?
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: We got It's the Breakfast every day.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: Click up the Breakfast Club. Finish y'all done,