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The Rundown with Jon Liedtke and Tim Powers - June 12, 2024 · Kvetch & Release

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  News Talk Tonight is on with your host Jim Richards on the iHeartRadio Talk Network.
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  There was a time in radio when I would just say coming up somebody,
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  somebody would be on the show. We didn't even have them, but
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  I knew that they listened, and then they would call in, going,
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  you guys want to interview me on to be yeah, why don't you answer
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  your phone? And it's just because they were listening. So let me try
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  that. David Phillips, senior climatologist with Environment Canada, he's going to be
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  coming up in the show in a half an hour talking about this hot summer
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  that we're supposed to have. Usually we call him around this time and he's
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  like, let me guess summer hot and we're like, yeah, how did
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  you know? Happens every year? Apparently hot in the summertime. So we'll
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  get to those hard hitting questions with David Phillips a little bit later on.
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  At this time, I am for our rundown. I am embarrassed to say
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  I did not know that Tim Powers, who is the chairman of Sumer's Strategies
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  and the managing director of Abbocates Data, would be on this segment today about
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  an hour ago, maybe a half an hour ago, I had texted to
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  Tim. Do you want to read the text from me? Tim? Yeah,
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  I can't. That was my cheering section there, Jim. So you
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  know I have to pay attention to them. I have to get off the
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  phone. We haven't seen it yet. Describe me. You did, describe
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  me as handsome, so I discouraged day drinking. You know it's okay,
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  insane, all right, thank you, you're welcome. John Letke joins us
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  as well. Lecky, Sorry about that. John. He is a radio
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  host, a podcaster, and he's got a great podcast called Cavetch and Key
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  joins us from Lovely Windsor On Terry. John, thank you very mature time.
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  You're handsome. Thanks for having me. Thank you very much handsome,
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  So are you? So? I find it interesting right now that there's some
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  sort of hill that peer Paulyev wants to die on about being informed. I
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  am going to be the next prime minister of this country, and I promise
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  you I will only be as informed as I need to be to be angry
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  about issues and make the opposition look bad. I just don't understand this,
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  he continues to claim. And he's got people arguing on his behalf that his
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  tands would be tied if he is fully informed, to the point that you
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  would want an elected official to be informed, but he can't get mad and
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  make all sorts of points if he is informed. Tim, we've heard from
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  two a CEASIS directors, one form or one current that says that's not the
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  issue. Do you think mister Poliev should be fully informed? Well, I
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  think he's going to get more questions on this, Jim, So probably I
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  don't really see the downside of it. And the downside perhaps is leaving yourself
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  in this position where everybody else now is reading the report and Liz May comes
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  across as and as being probably a very thoughtful big ere by providing information that
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  the government couldn't provide. So I think they're going to have to look at
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  why they want to stay in this lame because data will tell you this,
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  Jim. In history with the Conservatives, which I have, will tell you
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  this, they've always been strong on security and law and order. So it's
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  an easy place for Pierre to go should he decide to finally go back there.
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  I just don't know. I mean, I get the he didn't want
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  to read the report from the Special Repertoeur on Foreign Interference, and that was
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  because he had already prejudged the report as being biased. People can argue that
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  on their own, but I mean, like I thought that that was a
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  bad look too, Like why not just see what it says? Yeah,
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  if you're going back to me, yeah, I don't know. I don't
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  know if there's some you know, microcosm of supporters he's worried about, worrying
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  about who feel that if somehow he read this, it would be an admission
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  that he accepts something that Justin Trudeau has done and tried to draw a pretty
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  hard line as being everything that Justin Trudeau isn't. But I can't. I
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  think safety and security, excuse me, dream is a space he can own.
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  Yeah, it's interesting though, John, It's almost like, Okay,
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  if I get fully informed, though, maybe I'll learn something that isn't outrageous
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  enough to you know, kind of like get mad about. And as long
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  as people don't know what's in there, and I don't know what's in there,
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  people can get angry about something that is this boogeyman that is apparently not
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  as bad as we were led to believe. According to Elizabeth May. Yeah,
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  I mean, it could be. There's a variety of reasons why mister
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  Polyad is acting the way that he is. It could be because he doesn't
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  want to know what's in it, because he's worried there's something bad that he's
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  you know, aware of himself. It could just be the fact that he
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  wants to use you know, misinformation a bit. He doesn't have to be
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  held to the truth if he's not briefed on it. There's a variety of
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  reasons. I don't know if this is going to resonate well with people that
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  aren't already conservatives, but I think that they're pretty well baked in on him.
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  This is who they get, and I don't think they're going to you
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  know, turf him out. What is your sense that people care about this
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  issue, John Uugh, You know, I would hope more people cared about
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  it. It seems like this is, you know, it's not great.
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  We should have our own democracy to worry about, not meddling by other people,
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  and certainly not people in government elected officials who are going out of their
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  way. But I don't know if this tracks. People are looking at their
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  wallets right now, they're looking at bills, and this is you know,
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  while it's incredibly important for the country and our security, I don't know if
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  it's going to rent. Yeah, as long as there's no gray area,
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  as these things may have been, you know, appeared last week when we
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  didn't have the information that Elizabeth May provided. People think of our democracy as
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  being this very black or white thing. But we're we seem to have set
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  this thing up over the last little while where the stuff that's happening in this
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  gray area, tim is okay because it's not necessarily across the threshold into treason.
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  Well, two things just on the question to asked a moment ago.
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  I was talking to Campbell Clark earlier today. Of course he's a columnist,
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  chief political writers called Mail and you know, credit to them. They've been
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  leading the charge here, Bob Fife, Steve Chase, Campbell and others.
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  And I was asking, so, what traction are you getting on the story?
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  And his point is at ebbs and close, it's not up there as
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  you would expect with affordability and all the other things that people are touching immediately.
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  So you know, the pocketbook challenges that John talked about are real and
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  that they're hard to get pasted on your question. I mean, I think
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  I'm left with something. It's hard believe Elizabeth May is influencing me to the
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  degree that she does. Good for seizing the opportunity. I mean Canada.
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  I think she said, I remember her quote correctly, is a soft target
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  for me. I want to know how soft that target is and where is
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  the target soft? That really should concern us, right, and we really
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  don't know, And I think we need to keep asking questions about that.
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  And would be prime ministers. I think this is an opportunity for Pierre sees
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  this and say, look, you know, I've read the report. I
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  can't tell you specifics, but guess what my policy is going to focus more
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  money on electronic eavesdropping on you know, human assets and intelligence. I mean,
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  there's ways to seize this and make it a winner. Yeah. And
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  as mister Fadden said, I think Toshi yesterday that you know, certainly elections
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  Canada should look maybe closer at this kind of stuff. But what about party
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  governance, John Ling? Parties should be like you could take care of your
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  own backyard if you knew what was going on in your own backyard, But
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  if you don't want to find out then I guess it's convenient. Yeah,
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  And that's the problem that we have here. The political parties are inherently private
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  organizations, and unless we decide to go and amend the Elections Act to be
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  able to better deal with this, it's up to them if they want to
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  accept interference or if they want to go and you know, take part in
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  that. It's what are we going to do? And it's at the party
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  level. Certainly we've heard from Cess that for a good long while Tim that
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  this is an issue that goes back past this Prime Minister into Stephen Harper,
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  and so all elected officials could be tainted by this kind of stuff. So
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  why wouldn't party leaders want to know what's going on in their own backyard?
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  Yeah? They should, and hopefully they spend more time doing it. I
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  mean sometimes I think, God, I'm going to quote quote Elizabeth May,
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  and more time Jim talked about it willfully willingly? Was it unwillingly? Will
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  willingly ignorant? And that's what we've been and we shouldn't be, but parties
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  have been if they think there's an advantage, right, Uh, you know,
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  they don't see buffalos of people going to a nomination meeting for a candidate
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  that they hope to uh put on their their ballot is necessarily a bad thing,
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  but maybe it is if the people that are furishing them there faring them
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  there are you know, the Chinese government, the Russian government, other non
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  state actors. Who knows Tim. Thank you very much. When we come
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  back, we're going to guess what sporting event Tim Powers is at with one
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  of his kids. John Lidkey is with us as well. John is the
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  host of Catch It's Great podcast, also radio host and windsor. And in
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  a moment, we'll return with more of News Talk Tonight and the Rundown on
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  the iHeart Talk Radio Network. Welcome back to News Talk Tonight with Jim Richards
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  on the iHeartRadio Talk Network. I have some sources that are telling me that
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  this summer is going to be hotter than usual. I have a feeling.
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  We've been saying that for the last five years, hotter than usual, and
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  it could start on a Father's Day, which is this weekend. So David
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  Phillips, who is listening, is going to be on the broadcast coming up
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  in about fifteen minutes time. He's the senior climatologist with Environment Canada, meaning
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  he's been doing it a long time, not that he's an old guy.
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  And he'll be with us coming up in about fifteen minutes time here on the
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  iHeart Talk Radio network. When I hit him with a hard hitting question like,
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  so it's going to be hot in the summertime, is it? Stay
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  stay tuned for that. Okay, it's kind of journalism that you're going to
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  get coming up in about fifteen minutes time. John Lidkey is in Windsor.
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  Check out his podcast cast that she's also on our Sisters station and in Windsor
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  radio and podcast host him Powers is the chairman of Summer Strategies, managing director
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  of Abacus Data, and also a man who multitasks. You are at currently
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  one of your kids sporting events? Am I guessing accurately? You? I?
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  E? You know, I carry around an audience that you okay for
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  me? All right, like a crowd. You know, I can lend
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  them to you, Jim, don't tell us the sport? Yeah, John,
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  do you have a question. Let's guest play guest the sport. What's
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  your question for? John? Oh? Well, this is we're actually playing
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  this game right now. Okay, how old is your kid. How old
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  he is? Eight? Benine in August? John, does it involve a
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  wooden stick? Well, no, it does not involve a wooden stick.
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  Oh it doesn't. Go ahead, John, what's your question? I'm just
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  gonna guess football. Damn Ello SoC grandfather, great Grandsnow, his grandfather used
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  to play in the CFL. But he's not playing football. All right.
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  What if we were in Britain right now, would we say, is he
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  playing football? Oh? You've got it. He was imitating his favorite player,
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  Ronaldo, and he did actually get two goals while we were on the
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  air. So he got two goals while we were on the air. Jim,
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  it's got to be you man. You've got to travel with us.
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  I mean, I see it. I see it. Wow. Did somebody's
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  dog just park? There are some dogs here? I mean, it's all
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  right, let's do what kind of dog is it? John? What's your
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  question? I'm not participating in this. Okay, let's okay, let's just
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  move along. Okay. Soccer scores on the Tens with Tim Powers in Ottawa,
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  John Lydkey in Windsor. This is the iHeart Talk Radio Network. I
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  guess guys were not really that shocked. That hockey is on a steady decline
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  in this country. And you know, when you see the diversity of the
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  crowd that is outside the Rogers Place in Edmonton, the people right across this
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  country, it looks like the diversity of the country the people who are the
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  fans. But I don't know that reaching out to you know, new Canadians
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  and different communities is the answer, because it's in the pocketbook. And man,
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  Christia Frieland, when she was explaining the really rich people with their with
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  their healthcare and their private jet and their tall fence, they must she should
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  have said, and they have a bag of hockey equipment. That would have
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  been a better way to say. Elites that you have somebody in that your
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  kids play hockey. But tim, it's a real problem. Not just the
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  equipment is through the roof, but because ice time is so valuable now,
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  the ice time is so expensive, and you might have teams that want to
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  play. But we took some phone calls earlier today on one of the stations
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  and they were just talking about how there's so many leagues and they're just dying
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  for ice time. It's just heartbreaking. Yeah, listen, very involved in
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  all of this coach my son's hockey team, not the sport we're at tonight.
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  As mentioned, my friend actually runs hockey Canada, so I know a
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  little bit of what she's trying to do at the moment. But yeah,
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  accessibility in terms of cost, accessibility in terms of space and ice is a
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  difficult one. There are still brand challenges there. But there's something really fascinating
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  happening in the US that Canada is looking at. A guy by the name
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  of Steve Aurelli wrote about it yesterday in USA Today. He writes a youth
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  sports column. But the USA started to do a few years ago was try
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  and make the sport more fun. So they tried and change the approach to
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  drills and all of this and take away some of the angst that parents have
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  a about hockey being entirely competitive. They've grown the sport by ninety thousand participants
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  in the last ten years as wow. And so some of the things that
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  they've done, and they're finding ways to have third parties like Canadian Tyre does
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  with its jump Start and other corporations underwright kids getting the opportunity to play.
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  Yeah, I know a couple of friends of mine they have kids and one
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  of them played hockey one year and the father said, okay, skiing,
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  we can all do that. We we don't have to shop our own one
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  of the kids around all the time. John, what are you saying with
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  some of your friends who might have kids. In terms of affordability, it's
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  expensive to participate to be able to just use that much gasoline to get around
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  early mornings. If people are working multiple jobs now, they don't have the
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  availability and the time to be doing that. I mean, on the hierarchy
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  of needs, it's showing it's not the need right now. People still like
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  watching hockey and they'd like to be on the ice, but it's a tough
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  situation, and I think it's the price that you know, keeps it away,
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  whereas you know, other sports it's far more accessible to get into.
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  I think people would laugh if the whole beer store thing. I mean,
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  if you're in Quebec, you probably think it's nuts. I mean Newfoundland you
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  don't have the beer store, or you just have normal liquor stores right Newfoundlands,
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  Him, you have buddy in the corner where you buy the beer.
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  Jim, jeez, We've been buying beer from convenience stores for years but no,
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  we don't have a beer store. We have a liquor corporation like you
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  do. Yeah, I'm on the radio. Go ahead, you don't want
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  to know what my son just asked me. Okay, all right? Was
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  he what kind? Differently? Well, if he had a drank a number
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  of beers, he would have to do this, so he was asking about
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  that where he would go anyway, You don't need to know all of that.
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  But yeah, we've had this liberated beer for a long time in convenience
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  stores there. Okay, So I mean the rest of the country probably looks
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  at it. Okay, you're trying to appease this beer store thing, so
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  you can get beer in the corner store, and you're going to let them
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  what selling lottery tickets? I don't like, are any Canadians going to go
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  out of their way and go, you know what, got to get a
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  lottery ticket, got to go to a beer store? I don't know,
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  Like, what is that gonna do? I mean, unless they make it
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  the sin depot and go, Okay, lottery tickets, cigarettes and beer,
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  that's what he It's no longer the beer store, it's the sin depot.
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  John. Oh, It's just it's hilarious. It's a huge grab for the
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  beer store after that loss that they had there. But you know, the
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  beer store operates really well as the distributor and the collector from cycling and their
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  retail operations. I think they've made a decision under this government, you know,
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  they're not too interested about the retail side of things in terms of perpetuity.
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  But this is just too funny. Lottery tickets at the beer store.
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  Okay, why not? I don't know what's next, but it's bound to
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  be funny. And Tim, when you were a little more involved in the
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  politics of it, party politics, how much were you involved in what he
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  or she the politician is going to wear. There's an article about do Canadians
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  care about a fashion sense of politicians? Certainly it was a thing where hey,
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  peer Polyev isn't wearing glasses anymore, and hey, he looks great in
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  his T shirt. Yay, he's a normal person, not a robot.
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  But that has to be something that gets focus grouped to know. Oh,
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  listen, Jim. When I first started I work for John Crosby. Now
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  you know who he is telling him what to air. If if he had
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  a shirt and tie that match that was a major thing. Had a baby
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  blue shoes. He thought that Elvis wore, so we wore them. No,
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  I wouldn't touch that with a ten foot pole. But now, oh
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  my goodness. It's studied extensively. There are consultants that are brought in and
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  it's a very sensitive subject for politicians. But also, isn't there a wind
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  John, when you look like the everyman and you don't look that polished.
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  I'm thinking of the success in too that the Fords have had album No forget
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  Ralph. Yeah, sure, John, Yeah, I think that being relatable
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  to the voters is incredibly important, and certainly with some of the elected officials
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  we have right now, Prime Minister a notable example, as well as the
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  NDP leader saying, I mean fashion forward with them, but it's also they're
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  appealing to a younger demographic, the TikTok, the selfie generation. And if
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  that's how you break through by looking the part that you know looks good,
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  then so be it. Yeah, I mean that's another we bring up another
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  good point. I mean, mister Singh in his expensive suits and his Rolex
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  watches and all that kind of stuff, whether or not that's a problem for
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  him for being. I mean, the guy's gorgeous. I'll be honest with
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  you, man, that guy is one hell of a good looking, handsome
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  man. Guys, have yourself a great night. Thank you very much.
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  What's the score now, Tim? Oh? The game is over now,
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  Jim. They lost by two goals in the end. After a big coming
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  out. You back John Lidkey. Check out his podcast Covec and also Timpowers,
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  the Chairman, assume A Strategies and Managing Director of Apocus Data. When
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  we come back, Shock of all shocks in the summertime, It is hot
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  Next with David Phillips,