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🤖 AI Invades the Crucible?! KeyForge’s Art Controversy & Massive House Updates Revealed! 🧠🔥 · Archons Corner

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  Speaker 1: Damn it.
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  Speaker 2: We started and I didn't hit record because we just started.
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  Speaker 2: What Hey, I on the Crucible, Ghost Galaxies artistic leap.
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  Speaker 1: We gotta start from the beginning. Don't go anywhere?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, dancing it's tail?
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  Speaker 1: Hey? What do yeah? Take two? Hey, what's up to?
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  Speaker 1: A pause? Pause?
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  Speaker 4: Pause? Pause before we start Take two? Are you doing
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  Speaker 4: z or you're doing Sheep? Because you bounced over? Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: but you bounced over it took Sheep's lines.
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  Speaker 1: Man, Oh, I totally did. I'm sorry I didn't see that.
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  Speaker 2: I read Take three take take three script?
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  Speaker 1: Hey, Hey, what's up? Archons?
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back to Arcons Corner, the podcast where we talk
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  Speaker 2: all things key Forge, from Change to Champs, from Sanctum Thesaurian,
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  Speaker 2: and today from art to artificial intelligence.
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  Speaker 1: That's right, Ze.
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  Speaker 4: Today we're diving into something that's been making the rounds
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  Speaker 4: in the community, Ghost Galaxies use of AI generated elements
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  Speaker 4: in their new full art card line. Are we entering
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  Speaker 4: the age of machine for real?
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  Speaker 1: Wow?
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  Speaker 2: If the decks start playing themselves? Well no, But seriously,
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  Speaker 2: this is a big step artistically and can also be
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  Speaker 2: a bit controversial. So let's break it down short burnt one,
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  Speaker 2: what's new? With the full hyphen art cards question Mark.
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  Speaker 4: So for those who've been under a rock or just
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  Speaker 4: haven't cracked open the latest vault packs, Ghost Galaxy recently
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  Speaker 4: dropped some dunning.
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  Speaker 2: And we lost We lost them.
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  Speaker 1: You gotta take over, you gotta take over understudy fun
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  Speaker 1: I'm cheap now, uh for what we understand? Hey, I
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  Speaker 1: assisted means human artists work with tools like I think
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  Speaker 1: you're two.
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  Speaker 2: We're in a segment one ship alright for those who've
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  Speaker 2: been living under a rock, come on.
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  Speaker 4: So for those of you who have been under a
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  Speaker 4: rock or just haven't cracked up. In the latest vault packs,
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  Speaker 4: Ghost Galaxy recently dropped some stunning full art card variants.
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  Speaker 4: These aren't just borderless, they're full frame vibrants and in
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  Speaker 4: some cases created with the help of AI question Mark
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  Speaker 4: wing and they look amazing.
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  Speaker 2: You got cards like Routine Job and wild Wormhole getting
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  Speaker 2: these hyper stylized almost surreal look. Some fan notice a
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  Speaker 2: different texture, a different feel, and yep, turns out Ghost
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  Speaker 2: Galaxy confirmed some of those arts artworks use eight I
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  Speaker 2: assisted generation.
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  Speaker 1: Segment two. What does AI assist did even mean?
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  Speaker 4: Now? They didn't just feed chat GPTA prompt and call
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  Speaker 4: it a day that would have been too easy. From
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  Speaker 4: what we understand, AI assisted means human artists work with
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  Speaker 4: tools like mid Journey or stable diffusion to generate base concepts,
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  Speaker 4: then refine those into final pieces. Think of it as
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  Speaker 4: using AI as a digital paintbrush or muse, not a
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  Speaker 4: full blown replacement.
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  Speaker 2: Right, It's not like the cards are one hundred percent
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  Speaker 2: machine made. There's still a human touch, composition, polish, lower alignment.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, in recent statement Ghost Galaxy you said they
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  Speaker 2: view AI tools as an extension of traditional creative workflows.
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  Speaker 2: Love it or hate it, this is where the industry
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  Speaker 2: is headed.
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  Speaker 4: Ugh.
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  Speaker 1: Segment three Community reaction.
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  Speaker 4: Now here's where it gets spicy. The keyboards community is
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  Speaker 4: pretty split. Some players are hyped about the innovation, Others
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  Speaker 4: are worried about ethics, artist credits, and the long term
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  Speaker 4: impact on human illustrators.
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  Speaker 2: I've seen some threads on Reddit and discord where people
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  Speaker 2: are asking is this the beginning of the end for
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  Speaker 2: traditional art and card games. But on the flip side,
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  Speaker 2: there are folks saying, hey, this keeps production costs down
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  Speaker 2: and lets more cards get cool treatments.
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  Speaker 4: And let's be real. Keyboards doesn't have magic level fun
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  Speaker 4: thing if AI helps the game stay sustainable and visually fresh,
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  Speaker 4: that might be a necessary compromise.
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  Speaker 1: Segment four Ethical concernerations.
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  Speaker 2: But let's not ignore the real concerns. Are these AI
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  Speaker 2: models trained on copyrighted work without permission? Are human artists
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  Speaker 2: being replaced or undercut? These are legit issues. Ghost Galaxy
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  Speaker 2: hasn't been super detailed about their process, and I think
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  Speaker 2: transparency is gonna be key going forward.
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  Speaker 4: Totally agree there z GG wants community buy in. They
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  Speaker 4: have got to be clear how much AI, what tools?
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  Speaker 4: Are original artists being credited or paid? That matters, especially
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  Speaker 4: in a game so rooted in creative world building.
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  Speaker 1: Segment five The future of AI in keyfoard keyboard, keyboard,
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  Speaker 1: So where does this go? More AI?
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  Speaker 2: Rt AI generated flavor text, maybe utuly generated card mechanics.
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  Speaker 4: We're already dealing with algorithmically generated decks. Why not AI
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  Speaker 4: generated set names that don't say but rocket scientists anymore?
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  Speaker 2: A look, I is here to stay. The real question
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  Speaker 2: is can Ghost Galaxy and the rest of us use
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  Speaker 2: it responsibly to enhance, not erase the soul of KeyForge soul?
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  Speaker 1: Final thoughts.
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  Speaker 4: If you're a collector the full AI, full art cards
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  Speaker 4: are a cool flex. If you're a purist, maybe not
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  Speaker 4: your jam. Either way, it's a bold experiment, and I
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  Speaker 4: gotta say it's nice to see Ghost Galaxy trying new
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  Speaker 4: things instead of just playing it safe.
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  Speaker 1: Totally.
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  Speaker 2: This game thrives on unpredictability and that includes how it looks.
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  Speaker 2: Just you know, let's keep humans in the loop too,
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  Speaker 2: do do. That's it for today's episode of ARCNS Corner.
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  Speaker 2: If you got hot takes on AI art or you've
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  Speaker 2: pulled an AI full card, drop drop us a message
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  Speaker 2: on discorder X formally known as Twitter. We want to
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  Speaker 2: hear your thoughts.
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  Speaker 4: And as always, shuffle forge and don't let the bots
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  Speaker 4: beat you.
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  Speaker 1: Peace out arcons, would you? While I'm converting this into
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  Speaker 1: a YouTube or video script, yeah, we're good. We're good.
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  Speaker 2: But obviously we did this for a little fun, right.
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  Speaker 2: If you have been in our discord, which most of
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  Speaker 2: you probably have been if you're listening to the show,
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  Speaker 2: we did have a fun discussion on AI.
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  Speaker 1: Right, it was.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I do want to take this moment to just
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  Speaker 2: kind of maybe tell everybody to relax, remember to use
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  Speaker 2: your ghost Scout, ghost a Ghost Galaxy, Ghost Galaxy help
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  Speaker 2: form or whatever it is. I don't I've never used
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  Speaker 2: the email, but there's no need to.
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  Speaker 4: H.
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  Speaker 2: I don't even know what the word I'm looking for
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  Speaker 2: here is. But riot we harass Ghost Galaxy employees like
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  Speaker 2: they're in the server for fun, right, they're in the server.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe they can help answer a question or two for you.
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  Speaker 2: That isn't a big deal. They're not here to be harassed.
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  Speaker 2: They're not you know, they're here probably on their own time,
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  Speaker 2: off the clock. So maybe don't be a dick just
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  Speaker 2: saying might be.
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  Speaker 1: You know, there's plenty of companies that do not allow
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  Speaker 1: their employees to interact on social media at all because
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  Speaker 1: they're paranoid that, you know, their their employees say something
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  Speaker 1: pressure to er say something that.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we've already had plenty of plenty of people
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  Speaker 2: emailing uh the uh you know archives corner, gmail dot
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  Speaker 2: com that Daz Chorus is actually harassing them. Just yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, but the H charge which of my axes
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  Speaker 2: was it?
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  Speaker 1: Oh?
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  Speaker 2: We don't know, but you know, remember H char is
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  Speaker 2: the rookies. So those just go to the trash bend.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I don't fill out that kind.
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  Speaker 1: Of really would have thought they would send those over
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  Speaker 1: to the warcaster forgs after all those weird sexy ways
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  Speaker 1: they say, various cards, very very.
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  Speaker 2: Very strange, very but let's talk about this because I
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  Speaker 2: me drafscrs and myself did a little bit of digging.
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  Speaker 2: We're not one hundred percent sure if this was always here.
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  Speaker 2: I wonder if it was was it in past keyfdge Okay,
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  Speaker 2: was it in past game founds or just in draconian measures?
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  Speaker 1: Did you look? What's that?
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  Speaker 2: Because we did go into their FAQ because we were wondering, like,
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  Speaker 2: did they have they ever talked? They did just add
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  Speaker 2: that so right off of their web page. Ghost Galaxy
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  Speaker 2: hires human artists to create art for key Forge, and
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  Speaker 2: we intend to continue that practice. We also use digital
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  Speaker 2: tools such as Adobe Photoshop, including its generative fill function,
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  Speaker 2: to make the necessary adjustments to illustrations we buy so
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  Speaker 2: they are suitable for various uses. This includes, but is
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  Speaker 2: not limited to, scaling and cropping the art, performing color adjustments,
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  Speaker 2: and adding, removing, or extending artwork. Yeah, you know, so
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  Speaker 2: they're using generative phil which really isn't that bad one.
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  Speaker 2: How much do you think? How much you want to
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  Speaker 2: bet they have not even realized they were doing it.
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  Speaker 2: They're like, wait, we have to check what did we do?
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  Speaker 2: Oh is this AI?
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  Speaker 4: Oh?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? It is? Okay?
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  Speaker 2: Is generative phil AI totally because like well, back of
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  Speaker 2: the day, genitive phil used to be called something different.
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  Speaker 2: And I have to ask my wife, she's the generative
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  Speaker 2: which is yeah, well no, because you used to be
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  Speaker 2: able to like so in photoshop and we're talking a
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  Speaker 2: number of years ago, and this has always been a thing.
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  Speaker 2: And maybe it's just AI or maybe it's the cool
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  Speaker 2: thing to say now, but number of years ago you
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  Speaker 2: were able to take people out of pictures and whatnot
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  Speaker 2: and it would kind of guess and fill in the background, right,
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  Speaker 2: And so this generative phil has been around for like
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  Speaker 2: a number of years at least. Shoot, I'm trying to
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  Speaker 2: think of when my wife was in a photography school.
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  Speaker 4: It's been around, it is. Yeah, So genera of Phil
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  Speaker 4: is definitely one hundred percent AI. There's no question about it.
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  Speaker 4: But yes, it has been around for a while, which
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  Speaker 4: is what you're getting.
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  Speaker 1: So according to AI talking about AI, So who knows
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  Speaker 1: if this is right? Photoshop Rushing Quarter did AI technology
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  Speaker 1: with Adobe Sense in fall twenty sixteen. Current Nave of
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  Speaker 1: AI features like general Phil was introduced more recently with
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  Speaker 1: the beta version launchering in May twenty twenty three. That
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  Speaker 1: sounds right For the May twenty twenty three part, I'd
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  Speaker 1: have to should actually look it up if we want
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  Speaker 1: to validate Fall twenty sixteen.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, And I will say part of the concern that
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  Speaker 4: I heard from the community, and there was a lot
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  Speaker 4: to be able to take in. It just has to
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  Speaker 4: do with incorporating artists, making sure that paying our artists,
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  Speaker 4: making sure that we're utilizing the art And if you
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  Speaker 4: have not seen from Balance Sheet when FFG had him
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  Speaker 4: on as our director to before when he was just
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  Speaker 4: an artist, if you look at the individual art pieces,
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  Speaker 4: and I know arc ons corners not kind of seen
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  Speaker 4: as one of those large what's the actual art piece,
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  Speaker 4: but there are individual cards that if you look at
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  Speaker 4: the artists rendition what they put together as a picture,
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  Speaker 4: it's really scaled down and kind of minimize its crop.
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  Speaker 4: Some of the details are pulled out for the actual
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  Speaker 4: card art correct. And so what I will highly suggest
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  Speaker 4: is go support the artists. Like the artists do a
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  Speaker 4: beautiful job. Their artwork is absolutely amazing. It's talent and
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  Speaker 4: skilled that I do not have. And I've bought different
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  Speaker 4: pieces that we turn into playmats. I think that's seemed
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  Speaker 4: to be one of the large components that the community
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  Speaker 4: was still frustrated about, is like, if we're using this
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  Speaker 4: extension for the art, what is the impact on the artists?
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  Speaker 4: But the heart of what's there, the actual card they
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  Speaker 4: were paid for, they're there. I don't know what gg's
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  Speaker 4: stance is, we don't have that information, but this is
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  Speaker 4: definitely becoming a much larger practice in the game industry.
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  Speaker 4: We're seeing outside of Sorcery, where you know, there's one
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  Speaker 4: set here and it's hand painted, You're seeing some extension
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  Speaker 4: in AIA that's being used to extends some of the art.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, I've.
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  Speaker 2: I get the argument of like making sure we're paying
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  Speaker 2: our artists, YadA, yata, so on and so forth. I mean, listen,
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  Speaker 2: as someone who uses AI a lot. I mean you
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: read just read any of our titles, those are AI generated.
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  Speaker 2: Read our descriptions AI generated. Look at the thumbnails I've
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  Speaker 2: been doing on YouTube recently. If you watch us on
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  Speaker 2: YouTube AI generated, there is I feel there's a place
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  Speaker 2: for AI everywhere. Now, if y'all want to donate a
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  Speaker 2: bucket of money, right so I can go get somebody
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  Speaker 2: to make thumbnails and do all this for me feel
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  Speaker 2: free right now. His name is his or her name
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  Speaker 2: is chat GPT and they charged twenty dollars a month.
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  Speaker 2: It's just the way it is, like we're not we're
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: not a big podcast, Like we're not raking in a
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  Speaker 2: bunch of dough right especially now the draw Better Do
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: Cards is like been gone for a while and we're
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: trying to get that back up.
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  Speaker 1: I gotta get on dress score again.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean just but like even when it was around,
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  Speaker 2: we were we were, we were making tens of dollars
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  Speaker 2: a month, like, and most of that went back to
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: you guys for different things, right like whether that be
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: the title belt that's floating around Actually it's been the
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: Monkey's house, but you'll see it at CAFC again, right Like,
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  Speaker 2: just it went back to the community more times than
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  Speaker 2: not to you know, help help the community. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: AI has a place.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Bookie is a member of the community. So
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  Speaker 1: you know, technically that's what they tell me. So I
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  Speaker 1: don't know the shorts.
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  Speaker 4: The short answer is that we all have day jobs
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  Speaker 4: and this isn't our main stace. This is a hobby.
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  Speaker 4: It is very much a hobby. So I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think it was pointed anybody. Yeah, I don't
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  Speaker 4: think this was pointed at us the Wookie. I think
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  Speaker 4: it's pointed at GIGI, which is Ghost Galaxy is a company.
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  Speaker 4: They do have artists that were there. I think it's
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  Speaker 4: actually really interesting to look at those.
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  Speaker 2: It's just the argument again, like, oh, we're taking money
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  Speaker 2: away from artists because blah blah blah. But like how
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  Speaker 2: many machines were around in the twenties and thirties, the forties,
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  Speaker 2: the fifties, that like that person's job to is now
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  Speaker 2: done by a robot.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, And that was the argument, and we've seen it there.
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  Speaker 4: There are some tasks that can be modified. I don't
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  Speaker 4: think it's done as well. But my encouragement is if
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  Speaker 4: this is a passion project of yours, if it's something
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  Speaker 4: that that's important, then go support. If you have the means,
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  Speaker 4: go support those artists and you can buy the artwork
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  Speaker 4: directly from them. You can go ahead and get art
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  Speaker 4: that you can again utilize, whether that's your own extended art,
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  Speaker 4: whether that's turning into a matt like when you actually
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: see I'm trying to think of the Storian card that
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  Speaker 4: has the road. I'm totally blanking, but Imperial Road actually
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  Speaker 4: buying that from Like you can see the beautiful extension.
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  Speaker 4: Like that actual art piece was a much larger piece
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  Speaker 4: as we had talked about. That was cropped, but the
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  Speaker 4: work that went into it, it's it's beautiful and something
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  Speaker 4: that you can admire. So go and spend some money
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  Speaker 4: support the artists if that's really passionate project for you,
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  Speaker 4: and have no problem about it, voice it. But we
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  Speaker 4: got to do it in a respectful manner. And that's
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  Speaker 4: I think.
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  Speaker 2: Will tell you to be respectful normally. I don't we
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  Speaker 2: are the start, We're well, no, we're the shit store,
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: m a key forge, right, Like pretty much anything goes
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  Speaker 2: in our server right, very rarely do we time anybody
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  Speaker 2: out or tell anybody to like comment or cool it
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: or whatever the case is. Kind of it is an
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  Speaker 2: utter chaos nine times out of ten, right, and I
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  Speaker 2: think that's what gives a lot of our server what
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  Speaker 2: people like. But I mean there's no I mean again,
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  Speaker 2: like number one, I don't really know how Josh has
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  Speaker 2: gone after but I didn't get a chance to read it,
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: but it was enough for certain things to happen. So
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  Speaker 2: number one, I don't think Josh is the one responsible
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  Speaker 2: for choosing art on the cards. Just gonna go out
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  Speaker 2: and flat out say that. I don't know, like it's
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: just it's it's it's a weird scenario. But you you
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: have you have a you have an access point that
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  Speaker 2: Gigi has told you to use to voice your concerns.
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  Speaker 2: So use that access point.
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  Speaker 4: And I know that you're looking at that earlier. It
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  Speaker 4: is on keyboarding dot Com contact us. I know what
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  Speaker 4: he even't necessarily uses often. I was using. I sent
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  Speaker 4: two messages just yesterday alone to them, and you know,
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: both about KFC and kind of what some some different items,
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: some different proposals. I know that we've closed kind of
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  Speaker 4: the idea, but if there's an idea that strikes Gigi
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: as a whole, well maybe not as quick a response
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  Speaker 4: as we all want. They're receiving a lot of different messages.
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  Speaker 4: They do get back to you, and so I definitely
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  Speaker 4: encourage you to use it. I've used it in the
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: past when I've had duplicate decks. They've gone ahead and
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: taken care of me. I've used it when there's issues
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  Speaker 4: with master vaults. There's a lot. There's a number of
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: different concepts that I've used and they've been very receptive
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: to that. So definitely use keyboarching dot com contact us easy,
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: no problems.
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  Speaker 1: All right, is this enough on AI?
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  Speaker 2: I feel like I feel like I feel like I've
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: talked it off on AI the past two days. To
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: choke an AI donkey that's well, well, you.
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  Speaker 1: Know what you have to choke is the you have
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  Speaker 1: to choke on one of the playmats, right, so the
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  Speaker 1: extended playmat. I realized, Wait, these have been using AI
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  Speaker 1: for a long time, and I'm like, yeah, like like
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  Speaker 1: you guys not realize that, Like they've always looked kind
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: of wonky, and like I'm good, well, yeah, it's like
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: three quarters of the mat like nothing's on it, and uh,
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: you know, it's just like you know, it's like, oh,
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: let's just replicate a bunch of stuff across it. Basically
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: like doesn't look good at all in my opinion, and
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: a bunch of beople like we love the extended mat framing.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, thank you, Phil, Yeah, I.
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: Mean, and so the Quantum Mouse is the playmat that
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: we had pulled into our own show notes and kind
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: of what's there. I did not post that initially on
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: our live live notes, but that is where I think
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: that can be some concerning kind of to be able
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: to see it it filled in. Yes, there's definitely some
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: open in space.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: So I think, like, because it's art, art is like
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: a different thing than a traditional work product, right, So yeah,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: Like I remember when when like mid Journey and Stable
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Diffusion were first getting hot and there was a bunch
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: of people talking about how you know, I was looking
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: forward to AI taking away all by menial work, but
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: instead it took away my fund right because it took
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: away art for them at least, And you know, it
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: is like I get I get why you know it
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: could be upsetting or I get why folks are like, hey,
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: like art is different than a work product, but I
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: don't know. Also, just be cool to each other.
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: Well, we have such a good we have such each other,
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: we have such a good community. Like it's actually one
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: of the few times again we've been very open on
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: our kun's corner, but letting pretty much anything go where
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: we can voice an opinion. But sometimes it's better just
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: to say less and give yourself a little bit of time.
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: I think that was it is that the topic was
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: so new and fresh, and then you kind of have
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: a resounding board bouncing back and forth where people were
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: kind of taking two different sides and there's clearly two sides.
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: But sometimes just letting it sits before we say something,
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: it can actually sound a little bit smarter and give
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: yourself a little bit more space.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: So be kind to each other.
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: I will say. The only other, the only other thing
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: that I had for the AI a little bit here
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: is looking at some of the cards that were shown.
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: It did come in our recent game found update for
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: DRACONI measures. I give cut a credit to look a
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: car for this at our locals. He had talked, if
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: you look, it just appears that where the border would
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: be on a normal card that basically someone in went in,
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: clicked on it and when delete border, like the easiest,
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: the easiest thing that could do is basically what they did.
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: And my immediate, my immediate, my immediate response to no, no,
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: but my immediate response to t car was yeah, sounds
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: about right. That's what I expected from it really was
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: like it didn't surprise me. I do think that they
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: could have done a better job on the transparency of
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: the actual text box. Uh, they could have gone ahead
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: and moved the icon and the amber so that it's
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: just but they chose Easy and that.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: Man, we got to get e wok new Internet. That's
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: all I know. Like maybe AI needs to take over
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: his internet or maybe it is and that's why he
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: keeps fading out. All right, but we don't know what
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: you said because you you went You're like maybe and
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: then you were going, all.
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: Right, I got robot. Well that's AI trying to take over. Basically,
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: I I you heard I said the textbox itself was removed.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it was Xbox is there.
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: No, I'm saying the actual border box that was there.
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: It's what it's basically that they went in pressed removed.
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: I think what could have been done better is they
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: could have put more transparency in the actual textbox. Yeah,
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: and I think that they could have gone ahead to
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: move the house icon and the amber, messed around with
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: the sizing and moved that around. But it's really more
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: the text box transparency that kind of bothers me. But
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: they chose Easy as the.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: One who has messed around with the card frames. Yep,
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: pixel by pixel. I mean, I guess maybe I'm sure
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: they have a I'm sure they have somewhere. All these
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: things are in different layers, so they could probably just
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: unclick them and be like, oh now they're gone. But
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: I when I did the full art cards, the first
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: full art cards, You're welcome, Gigi, everyone got so excited
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: about those. You just like, we're gonna make full art
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: cards too, Guys, look at us, You're welcome, gg whenever
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: you want to cut us a check or maybe let
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: us in for free to one KFC, that'd be awesome,
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: just saying you've stolen it. You've already this year stolen
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: enough of our ideas foil cards, full art cards, and shredder,
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: and it sounds like before the year is done, you're
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: gonna steal one more. I don't know, maybe cut us
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: some slack here lit it. But anyway, these are a pain.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: I don't know who designed these, but I don't know,
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: and I don't know why your pixels and all your
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: colors are like so where you see these black lines
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: right around here, What I will tell you is those
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: aren't all black lines. Some of them are different shades
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: of gray. The more further you.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: Get out.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: And uh, you make one false move and before you
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: know it, you've your border looks a little wonky. That's
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: all I'm gonna say. Yeah, that that card was kind
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: of a pain. I ain't gonna lie to nobody.
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: But what about the transparency on the actual tax box?
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: And someone who made the cards?
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: Could you have?
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: Could is that I left the text out? But I
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: understand why they didn't, right, especially like this, going new players.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: And then gets harder to read.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: Well, not only like not only that, not only is
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: it harder to read, like could you imagine releasing new
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: cars with no textbox?
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: Could you have gone ahead? Could you have gone ahead
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: and pulled the transparency back? Though? Like it's very there's
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: a big there's a big contrast, and I think going
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: ahead and having less of that contrast so it blends
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: more into the back or whatever.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: Very sure you could have, you know, but again more work,
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: more generative, phil right, who knows how much of that
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: is there?
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: To see? Some extra toes on and on? Yea.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: And not only that, like some cars like against all
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: flags with how the art is, like you're also now
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: changing like some of those you might have to change
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: to white just with how it is because of how
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: dark it is, and that black on black might not
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: look so hot like Trioch the wise, you might have
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: to change that textbox instead of being that's white or
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: black text to like white text.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: That that you might have.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: To change, which I don't think is a big deal,
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: but maybe it is. And normally just click on a
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: color palette and you know, choose white instead of black.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: I don't know, like I don't, I don't see. And
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: again how their workflow is and photoshop and all this
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: stuff like who knows what all has to go into it.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: There's that talk about transparency again, to which we don't.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: Have a tunnel. I can't hilarious when that.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: When I read that, I was like, oh man, it
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: really does listen. But we do have tons to go
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: over with the game. Found we've kind of slacked on
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: it a little bit. We had a Vault tour kind
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: of happened in between some stuff. Obviously we got the
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: new set reveal. One thing we didn't talk about. Oh
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: and this is your obligatory spoiler warning. If you don't
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: like spoilers, you can get out later.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: Gators.
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll talk. We'll talk about Canada. Yeah in Evansville
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: later later, Gator later, Gator.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: But we did get gigantic rewards, which tells us gigantic
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: creatures are coming back.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: M hm. Is anybody thrilled about this? I mean they're fun.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: They're not generally good, but I mean a couple of
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: them are decent. Saw the one a little better. We
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: only saw the one, right, well, I mean the more
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: mutation had Ah, you're talking about the ones in More Mutation. Yeah,
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: because the one we saw was Kolsha fifteen power Dragon.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: Opponents key costs plus two for each forged key they
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: have after fight reapings lost up to three creatures. That
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: is not a may ability, by the way, So if
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: your opponent has no creatures, you might have to exhaust
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: your own congress up oh, up to three creatures Okay, yeah,
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: I don't have to up to the only And you
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: know there's there's in theory, there's entrenched cards that maybe
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: you want to exhaust your own.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: So depending depending use, we don't know. We have not
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: seen a lot of.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: The set, but this is this is another card where
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: it's like your opponent has to be doing well for
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: this to be of use somewhat useful yep. Yeah, and
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: you don't want your opponent to do well no, so yeah, yes,
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: cost to eight for key to cost to ten.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: For if there's a round, don't forget. This is one
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: card that can be bounced or killed or destroyed extraordinarily easy.
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: This is where I had hit.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: You give if you give a plus one power counter,
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: maybe it'll stick. Maybe.
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: Well, you talk about the plus you talk about the
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: plus one power cards. But the short answer is when
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: part of this has no impact until they forge a key,
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: like am I balancing it based on when it's on play,
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: then it's totally undervalue like it's it's it will never
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: hit for true value. If I balance it based on
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: when you have one key or two keys, it puts
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: it in a different spot. I do not like this.
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: When you gain extra abilities based on key formation, no,
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: no point.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: What about based on key color?
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: Also no boino.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because that's coming back. We already know that much.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: But maybe it'll get better. Maybe it'll get better. They
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: previewed some Geistoid and Equanon cards. They talked a lot
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: about the plus one power counters because now that's also
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: that's also a pipe in your card as the new
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: plus one power counterpit.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: I know everyone's excited.
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: If they can turn it into it to a currency
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: in the game. Where I'm turning in a plus one
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: power counter for another enhancement of like I get draw,
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: So turning the plus encounter for a draw or turn
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: it in for that, then it becomes potentially a different economy.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: Well, let us see, let's go through the bypass Burglar
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: to power get it over entrenched while Burglar is exhausted,
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: each of its neighbors. Game action steal one number, deal
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: one damage to this creature. So I think they forget
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: that nine times out of ten when you play creatures,
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: and what seems like it's going to be a heavy
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: creature set, more than likely he's only going to have
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: one neighbor, that's not my guess, not equadon. But then
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: you lose out on an amber, but you steal one,
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: so it's a delta two. So does it become a wash?
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Then? Do you guys follow my math there? I'm I'm
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: trying to find where we are.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: We're on Burglar bypassed right right after Giant Creatures. Right,
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: scroll up a little bit right, keep scrolling, keep scrolling,
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: creep scrolling Aquaedon and Geistoid preview and if you click
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: on that one is scroll down a little bit all right,
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: Here this card you'll see is the bypass burglar. He
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: hasn't trench, and each of his name if he is exhausted,
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: each of his neighbors gain actions steal one. Oh no,
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: it's an action steal one. Never mind, it's not a
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: reep steal one. So this card's trash.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: It, because more times than not he's going to have
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: an Equadon neighbor. Right, so this means you're losing. If
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: you go back to Equaedon, you're basically just losing an
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: ember to have action steal one. So instead of two,
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: you're only getting one.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: Garbage. This guy's a one. Wow? Yeah, is he a one?
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: I get so? All right, let's guy who does does
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: the same thing the shadows the No, it's an Equodon.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: It's the six power dude from Wie who action.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: Deal and damage this creature.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: But whatever that guy's called.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: That's fine. But you but that's that's six.
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: You're not losing the trench. Then trench means that this
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: is stuck around not doing anything, So you're not getting
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: the amber here. I honestly see this more. I know
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: gem Cot Vendor is there, but that's not thanks Parry.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: He's he's comparing comparing it to like giving gem coat
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: vendor to the other two creatures by him, But what's
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: the percentage the time that he's got an equedon neighbor?
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: Like, what would you rather have jem co vendor or
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: this guy.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: Gem code vendor, gem coote vendor hard if this guy,
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: if this guy had deploy, he would be better. Still
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: not great, but deploy would be better because that way
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: you can go into a different house and use his ability. Right,
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: Because more times this guy, I will guarantee you he
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: will have at least one equoedon neighbor. So let's just
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: think of person. So if I choose not to entrench him, right,
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: and I just ready everybody, and the next turn I'm going,
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: I know I'm going back into equaedon. I can reap
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: with him, and I can reap with his neighbor for
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: two member. Or I can leave him exhausted and use
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: his neighbor to action, not reap action, steal one for
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: one ember, so I gain one, they lose one for
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: a delta of two. Does it wash?
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: No? Well did you could reap with them anyway?
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: But see you go there. In my opinion, boys, I
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: relate this more to Breaker Hill, so shadows one power loose.
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: Each of breaker hills neighbors gains action steal one. It
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: literally is Breaker Hill, but I don't have to do
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: the damage there. It's with extra steps with a loss
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: of a creature that I could reap with because I
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: could still reap with Breaker Hill. It's closer in power
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: from one to two, and Breaker Hill was a horrible card.
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: This is not something we want to see.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: This is not something with what you're going to use.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: None of your plus one powers and you want to
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: uh have a whole bunch of one power echon creatures
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: and just action steal action, steal action steal. That's magical
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: Christmas Land that won't exist.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: Yes, let's go on a Conrad Fisk. He is enhanced
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: with an extra ember PIP and two plus one power counters.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: You may move each plus one power counter from a
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: creature to another creature, so you get to place them
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: and then move them because I'm not sure to that. Okay,
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: Before we move out of the next ecademic, we need
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: to a brief talk about the humble plus one power
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: counter boost cards, counters, little mons. You get to place them.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: I'm assuming right when there's The card features lance keyword
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: ability that grant certain types of bonus icons to cards
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: and deck. This is handled in the algorithm enhance have
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: been around since mass mutations. Yeah yeah, When you play
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: a card of the plus one power bonus icon, you
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: can immediately place a plus one power counter token on
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: a creature of your choice. So this guy lets you
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: place it and then place it again.
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: I guess the issue is it's not it's not valuable good.
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: We've seen this in the past, like going ahead.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: Chocks a fantastic card.
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: There are some there are some creatures that are witch
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: like that. Yes, if I give them a plus one
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: power plus two it really does matter. But for the
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: majority of the creatures this has little to no effect,
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: and going ahead and having an additional power does not
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: go ahead and keep it alive when I blow up
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: the board. So this is not something that I want
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: to be able to see into the game unless there
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: is another economic system that is relating to using the
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: counters for something some value. No, don't.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: Maybe maybe the next card will help us forge currency.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: You can move each plus one power counter and each
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: ember from a friendly creature to the common supply forge
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: a keya plus six current costs reduced by one for
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: each plus one power counter an ember moved to the
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: common supply in this way to a minimum of six.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: Motherfuck it, God damn it. Donation there, Luke, you suck
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: like this is just this is stupid, like you want
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: to put. I mean, it's fine, so I get to forge.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: I'm more than likely going to get a forge a
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: key at six umber and I guess it doesn't purge itself.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: So I guess I should be thanking my lucky stars
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: that it doesn't purge this.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is yeah, I mean, this is like
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: Imperial Forge. There will be decks where real good. I'm
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: pretty sure Imperial Forge you could forge for zero, couldn't you?
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: Uh you could? Yes? Yes, yeah, I was plus eight. Yeah,
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: I guess right. This won't forge for free? Okay, never so.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: Never forge for free? Will forge for six every time?
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: But I will I will tell you. I will tell
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: you this card will actually get some value simply based
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: on where that period is in the first bit. Power
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: counters I don't really care about. But it says each
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: amber from friendly creatures to the common supply, So if
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: if you do have a lot of captured amber, this
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: is a way to be able to go ohud and
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: burn it. That has value. That that's that you have.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: Goodness, man, I'm a I'm on a roll today.
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: No you're not.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: You just yea, yeah, you like it? I know you do.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: I don't, Okay, I do.
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: I do like that the key sheet does not have
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: the purge what you just said. But I think that
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: getting rid of blowing amber going ahead.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: Forge for free.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: I gotta ask you guys something. Let's let's move let's
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: move into this right, not because now we're we're moving
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: into like this weird thing. And like I feel like
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: Luke's giving me one thing but taking away another, right,
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: Like I like the whole Like you can't play key Forge.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: It gives me that play style that I like. I
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: do like watching Sheep and Pain, right, it is one
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: of my favorite hobbies. Yeah, it's one of my favorite hobbies.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: So with the first one with PV, we got you
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: don't get to play key Forge. And then it sounds
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: like in this set we're just gonna exhaust things. So
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: even when you do play creatures, they're absolutely meaningless because
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: I'm going to exhaust all your creatures for funsies. Right,
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: So this last set you couldn't play actions. This set
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: you won't be able to even use your creatures, so
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: it doesn't really matter. Do you like that style of
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: key Forge or the style of key Forage that was
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: like fast, fast paced, and like, oh, how can I
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: make this key sheet forge for free? Like yeah, it's
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: a little bustled, but like if forges for free, this
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: one's a little jank here, Like this one wasn't as
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: easy as ecdo charge, right, Like, because this, you know,
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: a little tougher, I feel a little tougher.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: Eh, So, I mean, I don't know about exhausting creatures,
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: but I I do they're all right. So a being
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: able to forge for free easily is a pretty high
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: power level. Now, being able to forge cheaply or free
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: when you work hard and set things up, that feels
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: real good, right, That is a tough balance to strike,
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: Like I think Tecto Charge might really be like two
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: decks too easy, right, because it was like I just out,
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: I just got yeah, like I just gotta have twenty
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: cards and this whole set wants cards. I'm gonna discarbe.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: I just have to be in the condition that I'm
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: in every game, right.
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: But that it is ecto charge was leaning into something
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: that you naturally do in a game. That's right, go
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: through your deck. So in that manner, adding the six amber,
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: which they eventually corrected the card for made logical sense.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: But when you see most of these others, like power counters,
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: I don't care. I don't want bigger creatures when they're
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: just going to go ahead and die like it does
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: not add to the game, which is why I'm asking
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: provide a different economic system for them. I think that
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: they're fine to go ahead and use it. It just
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: has to be more than I'm giving a plus one power.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: Right, And I think this this key sheet was a
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: great idea, right, but just let me forge for free.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: Don't don't put a dumb restract because you took what
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: could have been a very useful card. Now you've kind
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: of just.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: You made it a made it a key frog. It's okay,
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: which I guess, Yeah, yeah I will. Yeah, you'll still
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: be able to maybe loop it. You'll still be happy
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: in some conditions.
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: I have to wait to be able to see what
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: the different entrenched feature plays like. I'm open until I
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: play some I thinks.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: To punch one Eloch done again, that's effect.
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: We get to Donkey Bunch once you try it, and
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: then we're going to move on just once. But you know,
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: we can go ahead and see what the impact in
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: the game.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: Use my worry, use this ability only as a sorcery.
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: My concern comes will it slow the game down even further?
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: And you saw PV with the limited amber that's there,
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: can go ahead and do that. Do we want the
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: game to go faster or slower? Was your other question? Lookie,
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: and I do think that I'd prefer to see it
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: speed up, so more action heavy, a little bit quicker
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: games as a whole.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: Let's get to true best of three. That's where I'm at.
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: I don't think that that you're going to see.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: That, probably not. But let's move to Jankie Jimmy. I'm
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: not sure who's name in these cards, but whoever it
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: is needs needs to do better.
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: Three powered. Do you know that's not my person? How
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: do you know that's not my personalized art card?
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: Is that your personalized art card? The dude with a
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: purple hood and glowing yellow eyes, that's your personal art?
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: Hey, don't go ahead and go put me down. You're
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: really you really you you're not you. You're really a
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: purple jawa. Hey, now it's getting official here color right.
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: He's actually a joy.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: To armor after fight, if you are overwhelmed, an enemy
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: creature captures one if it is uh, captures one from
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: its own side. Otherwise you just capture one.
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: A player is overwhelmed anytime there are more enemy than
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: friendly creatures.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think overwhelmed is as crazy as it is, right, So,
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: like you get to control when you're overwhelmed or not, right,
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: So I mean this is fine, The effect.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: Is fine, fine, fine. Three.
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: I would say this is like a three, right, like
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: three power two armor. There's plenty of little two pukelings
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: that you can you know, kick in the shin and
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: run away from. H Yeah, pretty much. It's after the fight.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: I was like, can I place we were.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: Giving Yeah, we were giving surians in PV that were
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: far better than this threes. So two Yeah, that's where
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: I'm at. I feel like it's better than a two,
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, if you're overwhelmed and there's something
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: to fight that also, then after you fight, you're still overwhelmed,
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: you can something right, capture one from its own.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: But at least he does something no matter what.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: So right, so half the time on a fight delayed
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: steel right, Like, it's basically saying, if you have more
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: creatures than me, I get to go ahead and have
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: you capture something maybe like easy. We don't know what
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: that means, just kidding.
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: It's a it's a comeback mechanic, that's what they're trying
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: to do.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: Which I don't hate. I think it's I.
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: Would much rather see games that are close. Yeah, I'd
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: prefer to see games that are close. If you build
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: a fight in a comeback mechanic, I do enjoy and
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: appreciate that. Keep games close. I don't know if we'll
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: see how it plays. I need to play.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: It's just yeah, it's just got to be worth it, right,
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: and and you know it's gonna like, well, we don't
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: know the whole carpool, but we may well have games
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: where it's like just nobody wants to play a creature
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: and then just nobody's overwhelmed the whole game.
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: Who knows, Well, I will say JANKI Jimmy comes in
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: and at commons, So that is important when you're.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: Actually want to see a lot of Jimmy. There's a
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: lot of Jimmy's floating around a lot of a lot
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: of Jimmy's.
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: But bypass Berger Burglar comes, don't Jimmy Conrad fist comes
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: out of comment. So like, you have to look at
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: what the common cards are because you're gonna see these
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: in larger amounts.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: For you, stop janking your Jimmy.
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: Mhm m hm.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: No, do we lose you walk again? Yeah? He probably did.
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: Let's go to the next one.
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: Recyclops two power spector robot spector cyborg I'm sorry, enhanced
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: with a tight pip and two plus one power pips
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: after reap discard a card if you do give a
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: creature two plus one power counters, I mean discarding a
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: card's good. Discarding a card's good has a discard So
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: what do we give wormhole technician? Didn't that the one
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: that allows you to discard a card?
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: Uh? It allowed you to discard a card? And if
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: it was no, no, no, yeah, maybe that was We're
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: thinking sanitation Sanitation.
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: Engineer just allowed you to discard a card. So what
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: this is a sanitation engineer with enhanced Well, it's automatically
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: a four right because it has enhancement pips.
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: No, it doesn't have a house pip, that's the best one.
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: Now a discard Pip's pretty good. Type Pip's pretty good.
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: Wait, so there's only house pips that are worth four?
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: I got any pips for Yeah? Oh come on, dude,
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: I'm confused.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: On the rolls now, I don't know what they are.
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: So Amber is very good too, because amber right, amber
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: winds games right? Right? Yeah? Yes, right, And so the
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: hierarchy that I'm just making up right, House pip first? Next,
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: what's next? Is it Ember or discard?
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: Probably wait it's not Ember, then house pip, House pip
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: is house pip first Ember? Next is it draw, card
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: or type? Then it's tight then tight pip, then type pip,
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: then discard, then draw, discard, draw, and.
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: Then that leaves. I don't know.
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: Is damage or damage power counter better? Damage is better.
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: I think damage can deal with ward and all sorts
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: of that stupid stuff. Plus one power counters don't really,
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: they really don't. The humble plus one power counter don't
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: do ship.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: What do you think you walk? Is? What is the
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: worst versus second worst pip in the game? Is it?
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: Is it damage pip or plus one power counter.
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: Plus one power coner is the worst?
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: Yep, it's the worst. Okay, it damaged is better? Okay, okay,
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: all right, so the news pip is the worst one.
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: Well, hold on since he walks back down you walk.
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: What was the rule about people with about cards with enhancements?
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: There were automatic fours?
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: Right, Well, that that's what you're talking about for drazz
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: that and again I think that they've really gone down, like.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: Like now that it's now that it's Nichols has three
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: damage pips, we discard that ship every time? Does he
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: really have three damage pips? Yeah? I just like I can't.
• 51:39
  Speaker 4: Well, but that's the power creep boys. We're seeing a difference.
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: So all right, reduce thre you is play. If you're haunted,
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: deal five damage to a creature. Otherwise return a creature
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: to your its owner's hand. This seems decem.
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, uh, I mean five damage, although I don't know
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: with power counters, maybe five damage isn't as good a bounce.
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: The renounces good creature. It's weird because return a creature, Yeah,
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: that's better than five damage. But if you're haunted, your Yeah,
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: so this is like a weird reverse one where it's
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: like you actually, I don't want to be haunted. Oh
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: that's weird.
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: But if you're playing out of set five damages, okay,
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: is cool too. Maybe you're playing f FG deck maybe
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: all right. Some of the notable exceptions they are showing
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: here for reprints barter in Games, Change Agent, gem Coat, Vendor,
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: Talent Scout, and Reap the Wild Winds are coming back. Yeah,
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: Talent Scout Ripped the Wild Winds sound good. And then
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: for geistoid crap rays, Jack neeryt PK Siphonator and return
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: to rubble.
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: Pk is great. Me, that's good. Crep rays used to
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: be part of a combo that now you could just
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: do a Trenk, right, So.
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, check out this sweet two card combo. Hey
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: check out this one card combo.
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah. People are like, oh no, he's got you know,
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: got the the Veil Raise combo, right, And now it
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: doesn't even matter. And now it's like, well, why would
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: you why would you do it with two cards when
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: you just do with one?
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: This is true, But for those Mars lovers, Mars is back.
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: Can we just go aheading a rat of the one
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: card for all of our tournament players and be done
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: with it?
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: I yeah, I don't see why we haven't yet, but
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: we still haven't.
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: Ye be admitting they did it wrong.
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's okay, Yep, it's okay, better play never mind.
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: Agent Boof.
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: Automatically like him. He's got a drink in his hand.
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: Looks like he's having a good time. Hell for power
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: Martian Agent after reap. If you are over rhemmed, give
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: a friendly creature to three plus one power counters. Otherwise,
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: give each friendly creature a plus one power counter. Damn it, Booth,
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: why do you suck?
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah? But at he looks like he should be a
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: good card, but he's not. He's probably drunk.
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: It was like, I don't know what I'm doing. I
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: guess I'll give out this plus one power counters.
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: Hey you wal tulor? Is this a two? Yeah? E
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: wok yep two?
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, let's get ready to try.
• 54:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah. The problem is is okay, so you have four
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: power creature but it's after reap, so I'm reaping good.
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: But now it's the if you're overwhelmed, and only if
• 55:01
  Speaker 4: you're overwhelmed.
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: No otherwise, give each creatures some power counter.
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: But what am I doing with these power plus one
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: power counters?
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: You are digging into your little box of plus one
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: power counters, right that nobody actually ever uses.
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: And that's what I say.
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: With them afterwards, probably cleaning them up and putting them
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: back in the box after you watch.
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: As you lost. Well, I think whis when we were
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: talking about that, the whole idea for exhaustion. If the
• 55:35
  Speaker 4: benefit is is strong enough and persistent, great, then I
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: will entrenche. But if not, I can reap. But here's
• 55:43
  Speaker 4: the thing in trench, I don't get to use it,
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: So if it's in an off house, okay, but if
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: it's in the house that I'm using, I'm missing out
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: on the reap. So the benefit better being really good?
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if if they did a good job of balancing
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: the abilities, which well, they got one guy working on
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: this and like a half a play tester with a response, right,
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: so half unlikely he responds sometimes, So it's all my
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: low goals. These guys are idiots, you know, so well
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: they're doing better than me recently, so maybe maybe I'm
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: the idiot.
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: If we did something with plus power counters, dude, it'd
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: be pretty sweet.
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: Anyways, it's a two. Let's go on to Klai Klai
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: krug Klai krugg I have no idea if I pronounced that.
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: Let's in sand draz Car.
• 56:41
  Speaker 4: I ain't.
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: I actually like this one because it's a different crazy name.
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: But it's time to name the Mars cards.
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, h's and geez yeah. He went to the other
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: side of the keyboard. That's time.
• 57:00
  Speaker 4: Wait wait wait wait, boys from agent booth with the
• 57:05
  Speaker 4: common your other common and klein Nug's.
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: The German Martian.
• 57:12
  Speaker 4: He's the German Martian Martian soldier three power enhanced damage
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: and then two power counter power counters after reap. Again,
• 57:23
  Speaker 4: notice both after reap so slow. You may move each
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: plus one power counter from a creature to the common
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: supply if you do archive a card, not for each
• 57:34
  Speaker 4: one that I move, I archive a card. Just archive.
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: Move all of those plus one power counters to archive
• 57:40
  Speaker 4: a card.
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: Well, it's fine, they don't matter, so it's fine, right.
• 57:44
  Speaker 4: Why why why?
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah? I agree, I should be able to card for
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: each of them. You had. We already had a creature
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: that was three power that said, after reap, archive a
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: card and it wasn't very good. So this is not better.
• 58:09
  Speaker 4: But it's not after reap archive of card. It's after
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: reap and you've had to put power counters on, so
• 58:15
  Speaker 4: I don't get the benefit unless yes, like, come on.
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what was the dude in logos and coda? What
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: are the scientists? What are the scientists? It's in a fraud. Yeah,
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: I don't remember what it is.
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: But you know, after if you're overwhelmed and if you
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: have a plus one power counter, and right after you've
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: done the hokey pokey, then you get the archive your
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: card all right.
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, which you know you'll be playing against pvs. You'll
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: just discard at the next turn.
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: It won't matter because you won't be able to play
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: any cards anyways.
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: So dead thing says you can target your opponents plus
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: one power counters, but they're not gonna be playing draconian measures,
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: so you're not gonna be able to do it.
• 59:05
  Speaker 4: Replacement Are you talking about Ganymede Archivist?
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: After have a card? Yeah?
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: Sorry, replacement three power Martian soldier to ploy play put
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: a neighboring non soldier creature into its owner's hand. If
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: you do, the most powerful friendly creature captures too.
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: So this is very dependent on ward state. Other common
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: that non soldier is. I mean he can put your boof,
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: your boof back in your hand. Yeah, but you don't
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: care about that, right, So yeah.
• 59:50
  Speaker 4: There's no play effect. You need play effects on your
• 59:53
  Speaker 4: Mars creatures that you want to put back in, and was.
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: Just removing your power counters.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 4: Correct. So what I'm seeing here is, yes, they're leaning
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 4: a little bit more into the Mars invasion. So maybe
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 4: our storyline event that happened. You can see agent boof
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 4: so an agent someone who's going and working, and then
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 4: the Martian soldiers on both of the last two cars
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: for Kumug and replacement targ But I I don't know.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 4: It just doesn't wollow me for Mars and it's not
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: what I pictured for the Elders.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: But wow, it's just slow.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: Well, if you liked that, you're going to this one
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: very Yeah, very much depends. So we'll say you're gonna
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: love these going into Shadows, the house that is most
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: likely going to no longer exist.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: Now what do you mean? No?
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 4: I did what I could.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: I tried to start with them my guys per Star
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: Alliance at my store.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 4: If you the prop. The problem is is that if
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 4: you're playing Shadows, if that's what came up in our event,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 4: so you're restricted on that.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: And there's only a handful of good cards. In shadow there's.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: Well there is, but you also have Hoodwink, which goes
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 4: out and then purges itself, which conveniently we all had
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 4: like things like that that auto purge itself, automatically increase
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 4: your amount that you are purging.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: But anyway, I did let's talk about three decks, yes,
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: and yeah, we opened three decks and I just picked
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: the deck with the houses I like the least to
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: play the sort of it that's you.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: Played talk in one of our events there. That was interesting.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: It's it's a very so you didn't have to do
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: PV for it, but it's a very different feel when
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: you have no threat of popping one of their cards
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: or one of their prophecies, and all of a sudden
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: you have to you're giving them a Darkness card. Like
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: you could very much plan your strategy to like take
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: as many Darkness cards until you're like, oh, I've got three, laughed,
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: I have to stop now because you have the Market Dark. Well,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: when you you get that upgrade, but you're purging tokens,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: what houses am I purging? And uh, it's like I
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: think that was on each of his neighbors. Market Dark
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: says each of its neighbors.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 4: Well it's and the one yeah, what you what yourezz
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: is saying is yeah, if you're targeting tokens, you don't
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: know what house is under there, and so that.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: Makes all.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: What was What was also fun is that, uh, you
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: can't hit them with markets trying to double market disk deck,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: which if you hit one of the creatures from the
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: from the shadows or from the deep or whatever the
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: hell it is, it's meaningless because it's not a house.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the achromatic Basilisk two power
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: Beast skirmish after fight exhausted enemy creature chromatic battles. Yeah,
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: I mean it's not very good.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 4: The problem is is that I would love to go
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 4: ahead and typically exhaust a creature, but if we're having
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 4: entrench on the other side, maybe I don't. Maybe I
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 4: don't want to like this idea for exhausting again, slowing
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 4: the game down, and especially going against the trench. I
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 4: may not want to do that.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: This is the one that suck. Is it better than
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: burnish Nichols? The answer yes, you.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: Could play it and it can read without you worrying
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: you're going to help your opponent, So it.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: Wasn't a trick question, but it felt like one black
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: I had to think about it. Action Pip November. Every
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: time you play it, each player shuffles their archives and
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: discard pile another deck, discards the top five card of
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: your opponent's decks, play the top card of their deck
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: as if it were what you see. Just discard the
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: top five card of your opponent's deck, and then you play.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: Then we play the top card of their deck as
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: if it were mine.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's it's so it's an amber. You're getting
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 4: their their archives and discards shuffling.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: Well, each player shuffling are archives and our discards back in,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: and then my opponent is going to discard five cards
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: from the top of their deck. Then I get to Americans.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 4: Yep, that's what we said.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: Yep. There are far too many words on the card. Yeah. Yeah,
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: you didn't need to do all that. It's good, though,
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: you're doing too much. As the kids say, remove the
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: middle sentence just to make it easier.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: But yeah, you're doing too much. Remember the Remember each
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: of these used to be like a card, right, Each
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: players shuffle their archiving discarded pile unto their decks that
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: used to be two cards, discard the top five cards
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: or your deck that used to be boo. It's a
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: half a boo. Right, So now we're up to what
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: like two and a half cards and then murkns This
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: is like three and a half cards all rolled into one.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 4: But you have to make up for a chromatic basilisk here, so.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: Well, keeping seek to change. I don't think it's gonna
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: do it. Uh, pip a vember. Every time you play it.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: You may pay your opponent up to six ember for
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: each ember paid this way. Draw a card.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: It's rare.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: It is a rare. I don't feel like this card
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: will be any good depends.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 4: On what's there.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: So this is a combo piece, right, So yeah, if
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: you can steal it all back and draw a bunch
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: of cards, there's going to be decks where this is
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: real good.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 4: That's what That's what I was saying. You're talking TMTPE
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 4: tmtps inside you have car fire, if you have things
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 4: that you're going to immediately take it back. Sure, I'll
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 4: give you amber because maybe my opponent hasn't been generating
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 4: the amber. And then I draw cards and gain the
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 4: amber from it, and I'm going to steal it so notable.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: Reprints for Mars will be the collector Worm's back. E
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: Walk is very happy destroy them all, extinction, harmonic pack
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: and mass abduction. I think I'm excited for destroy them all.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 4: Destroy them all collective, Yeah, extinction actually and destroy them all.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: Are actually with the traits. Yeah, it might not be
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: too bad. Traits are actually thure out.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 4: And as we are talking about keep the change, look
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 4: at what's coming back for Shadows.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: So for Shadows, chain gangs coming back, fall guys coming back,
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: routine job is coming back too much to protect us
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: coming back you know, all the all the bangers and
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: widespread corruption.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: Hmm. That last card is so weird.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it is a different It is a strange cart.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: I don't want it, but I'll take the other four
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: maybe the I When I saw that card, I'm like,
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: there's gotta be some weird combo that makes it good,
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: But there wasn't. Maybe they'll actually put nope, some weird
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: combo in here that makes it good.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: Ah, Nope, Nope, probably And then we move into the
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: last of the new the old houses. We got the
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: pirates and the Fish really yeah, Pirates and Fish are back.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: We start with blood Wing two power beasts. It's enhanced
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: with a capture I remember, I'm sorry, a plus one
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: power and a plus swim power. After you fight or
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: reap with blood Wing, put a plus one power counter
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: on each of on each friendly flank creature.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 4: Too many plus one power counters doing nothing? Yep, these
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 4: are all commons to boys.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: Are they No, I'm gonna have two thousand dollars of
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: ship That's what I was. Yes, yes you are. Well,
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: let's see, let's go to Combuchin Kob.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 4: But hold on, Hank while you're saying this, just so
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 4: you're aware. Friends, Uh, this game found campaign is going
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 4: on and you two can back it. There are four days.
• 1:08:45
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• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: I will I willful conversation everywhere. Tell me what's sorry?
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: Thanks again to chat.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 4: I will say, Chuck, EPT did a great job at
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 4: our scripts, but only put Z and Sheep in. So
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 4: apparently Wookie, who's been here the longest.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: Wookie who we don't you don't count man, But no,
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: to what I will say at this point, two hundred
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: and fifteen thousand dollars.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 4: With four days left. That did surprise me.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: So I think I think we finally hit the marker, right,
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: I think every campaign will do right around that two
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: thirty yep, I think that. I think that's the marker.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 4: Now, I think it'll be higher than two thirty.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: Oh no, it's kabo Chan, Cabo Chan, Cabo Chan, Cabo Chan.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: I don't know how to say this, but three power.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: I don't know if that says Hayard in trench at
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: the start of your turn. If kabo Chan is exhausted,
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: gain a number for each friendly skyborne flight creature.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: All right, so what's what's the Christmas land? You've got
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: two of these and they're both on a flank.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 4: And yeah, so it's two flank creatures. You can gain
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 4: two off of it.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: Well, two for each cabo Chan. Yeah you what so
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: if you have two of these, you can give four.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 4: These are uncommon?
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: You want no? No, I mean it's the start of
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: your turn, which is nice.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: Does don't have to go back You don't have to
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: go back to Skyborn. You do have to have a
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: flat creature that is skyborne.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 4: Can we just talk about this art? Like, I'm not
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 4: a big fan of art, but what the heck is
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 4: happening in this this picture here?
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: You know, somebody was like, hey, I want to get
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: it on with a dinosaur. That's my that's my art.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: Do that.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 4: But it's cards.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: It is like at I don't I don't know. It's
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: just somebody are we Are we sure this isn't somebody's
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: art card.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: No, it is not. I was wondering if somebody who's like,
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: this is my art direction and they're like, what, okay, well.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 4: Can we go into mbird perse per.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: So I don't know. Does that last one?
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: In order for that to be okay, it has to
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: reach witch status? Is that to mber at the beginning
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: of your turn?
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: At the beginning that is witch status because you start
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: your turn, gain you gain your ember, and then you
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: go to your forge a key step. So now, yeah,
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: he's a little the umbo chan's a little witch status,
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: y right, because if I don't kill it and I'm
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: at five, I'm technically a check without you even knowing it.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: Or maybe I have two and you're both on flanks
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: I'm and I only have four.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: Maybe I'll give it a seven power counters. Yeah, and
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: it'll never.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: Die, just continues to get bounced back to your hand,
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: damn it.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's it's.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: Probably like three, it's might be fine, all right, should
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: we go to the purse? Does that says?
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: Play?
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: Steal one for each ready skyborn creature? In play, I
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: feel like this is a Mars card because they have
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: to be damn ready, so I have to play them
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: then wait and then maybe I get some member, which
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: chances are.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: Right, what is hypnotic circle or whatever?
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: Not a command? No, that was psychic network is what
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: you're thinking of? Hypnotical command was the better version of
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: that card?
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah? The too slow? Yeah, it's a two there. I
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: mean there will be moments where it's good. But you
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: also want your dudes exhausted in this, right So maybe
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: so you got the coboch, you want him exhausted, right, Yeah,
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: yeah you do so.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: So is the set well, this set is struggling with
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: an identity crisis.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: It doesn't know what it wants to do.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 4: That's what I was saying, is bouncing around, But this
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 4: is very.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: Well does not know what it wants to do, has
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: no like, hey, let's play with exhausted and unexhausted stuff.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: But then let's put let's put cards in there that
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: are like, hey, you might be able to steal Maybe
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: it's but you know, you got a way to turn
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: and everything, you know, not just any you know, steal
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: one for each for each sky Born creature, because that
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: that'd be too good. They got to be ready to
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: so you got to wait a whole turn. But let's
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: put it in the set where like we want everything
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: exhausted with this keyword called entrench. Like this whole set
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: it's just one big identity crisis. This is a cry
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: for help, Josh. If someone is threatening you, just blank twice.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: I mean he did, and then he left the server. Right,
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: that's what happened. I'm sorry, Luke. If someone is threatening you,
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: it's blank.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: Twice ago, all right, unfathom keydude, Keanu Reeves is now
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: in a Keanu Reeves is.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: Now in.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: Key forage and when you play Kanu card, yeah, well
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: he's Keanu Reeves is only two power and when he
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: enhances with a draw and and two plus one power counters,
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: and you could choose an enemy creature with no plus
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: one power counters on it exhaust that creature and each
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: of its neighbors. That's actually not terrible.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: It's not until it gets hard because you're playing in
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: set and you're like, oh, actually, I don't want to
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: exhaust them.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: Can the plus one power counters attached to the creature
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: being played?
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: Sure? Are you sure it's on the board? Yeah?
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: Okay, I thought there was a weird timing, would know
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: for whatevertis and that it couldn't target itself. Is this a.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: Like in set this is bad maybe, but out of
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: set it's good. I don't know it's better. Let's not
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: put it at good. I feel like this is pretty good.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 4: We'll see you do.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: Exhaust three creatures. Yeah, remember the trench.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: Doesn't the end all be all like, maybe they get
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: to do some cool stuff, but guess what. Guess what
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: they're not doing on their turn reaping with that nobody
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: can listen. Trench things all fine and dandy, but at
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: the end of the day, it's still a race and
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: you're still gonna need creatures to get you Amber.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: So what.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 4: You're saying is fraud is like, yes, please go ahead
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 4: and play all of these exhausted.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: Rod is an edge case scenario? Yeah, fraud, No, But
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: no it doesn't.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 4: And that's what I'm saying is that it just is
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 4: going to continue to spit out Amber and see.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because fraud doesn't care Fraud's like, you want to
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 2: exhaust my stuff.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: Cool. I don't need any of them for me.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 4: To do anything.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: There are a bunch of top level decks that I
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: do not care about. Creatures.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: Fraud is one of them, all right, Paralysis signing three
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: power beasts after reach, after reap, stun and rage and
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: exhaust the creature.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 4: They're coming.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: I feel like we've seen this card before. Why do
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: I feel like I've seen this card before? Was this
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: an action previously? It was, wasn't it?
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: There's that sanctum artifact that's like exalt done in exhaust?
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: Was it exults in the exhaust? That sinks typing?
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 4: I was checking out figure Rod.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: Does that stunt a gauge echo pearl pearl? No, that's
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: not what I'm thinking of.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what it is. But this is
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: a two baby. Maybe this card is not great and
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: it's not horrible. I ain't chasing it. It's a three power.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: Maybe power doesn't matter because it's so many power counters.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: Maybe it doesn't matter what power you have. I don't know.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: It isn't after at least since an after reapability so
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: at least I'm getting Amber off the deal.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: Just survive.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 4: No figure offic rod is just exhausted creature artifacts.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: So that was Yeah, I thought there was an action
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: that's done and raged exhausted creature.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, either way, it doesn't matter. I two three two
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: three six seven Who.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 4: Everything I want? I want Mars where I'm going to ready.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 4: So in this case with Skyborne, with like every the
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 4: Mars that was earlier, and with the Unfathomable, I want
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 4: something too ready so I can use them. There's a
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 4: lot of reap effect.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: No, not in this set. Nothing will understand nothing.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 4: I was thinking about Sleep with the Fishes. I was
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 4: really hoping would come back with all of the exhaust
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 4: but instead we have a rare here with sand in
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 4: your eye.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: Sand in your eye, puckin sand, play exhausted creature. Draw
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: card for each exhausted creature, destroy each exhausted creature. It's
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: a better Sleep with the Fishes.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 4: Correct.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I guess there's gonna be a bunch
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: of guys exhausted. So let's draw a bunch of cards.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: Play you play Kiana, you draw, you exhaust a bunch
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: of their stuff. You play this cas is gonna be exhausted.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: Then you blow them all up and draw a bunch
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: of cards.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this will probably be a card that will impact
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: many games.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, all right, Sharknado.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: It's still rare.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 4: But by doing that, Dres, you're also giving up Kenu
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 4: and other cards that you know, by playing any creature,
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 4: it's exhausted, you know what I mean.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: So yep, yeah, I mean, but you you don't want
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: the creatures in this anyway.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 4: Probably I want to have cards that I want to
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 4: have cards that I can play to finish the game.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, we do have some good stuff coming back,
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: really not not so much. On the Skyborne side, you
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: have Amber Earhart, Cloudburst, Command, Red Sky's silver Lining, Skulking
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: Saboteur is coming back, but illusions of Grandeur's Bubble Catch
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: and Release are coming back. For the Fish, Sybil way
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: Mare and Sparkfist some goods, not terrible. It does things sometimes,
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: it's a rare. That's Sybil's only problem is it's rare.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: Sybil has had the ability to randomly take over games
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: because you can't reap with any of your shit, because
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: Sybil says.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: Na, you know this. This was that first version of
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: like random disruption that could piss people off, but it
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: happened so frequently.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: I think I hit you with this Sybil that I had.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: We were playing in a random sealed event one Sunday
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: and Sybil just kept hitting everything on the board and
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: it was.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 4: Like, so Echo Pearl boys was unfathoable artifact with an
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 4: amber pip Omni destroy Echo Pearl, exhaustun and enraged creature.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: I was getting there one step at a time. It's
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 2: been a long week, but I am happy to see
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: illusions of grand your back, bubbles back and catch and release,
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: all all good things to see come back. I think
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: we'll find out nobody really knows. Ah, So thoughts of
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: what we see, because this is it. These are the
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: six houses. Those are the six houses that we have.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: We've seen them all now, thoughts comments, Yeah, cries of outrage.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: I have cries of outrage.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: Of course.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: I said this last time set was going to suck,
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 2: but then PV ended up dominating everything because of this.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah last time we Yeah, well PV again.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: I think the prophecies were real hard because I don't
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: think we realized that they were going to take over
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: in the way they did. Yeah, I think and we
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: have yet to see any card that can interact with
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: prophecies still, even in the new set.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: Knowing that they're kind of.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: A problem, We're not worried about them.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: We're just going to kind of let them be.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 4: I just think that the cards that I'm seeing are slow.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 4: But again, it's such a small percentage of cards. I'm cure.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 4: Would you rather see absolute bangers that are released as
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 4: preview cards?
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 4: Or would you or would you rather see no chaff?
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: Nope, bangers all bangers all day long.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 2: But I feel that GG will always give the bangers
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 2: you walk, I know.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 4: But I feel that I feel that GG has consistently
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 4: provided a lot of chaff versus going ahead and identify
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 4: there's a lot of chaff.
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 2: But told you this company is allergic to making money.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 2: Or it's just this is what happened to be ready
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 2: and available at the time they released this.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: Yes, good marketing, like it would be banger after banger
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: after banger, right, Like it would just every article that
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: came out you would be foaming at the mouth to
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: read to see what new busted goodness is going to
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: be in the next set. Of course, then we do
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: have a whole contingency of players that don't like Busted
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 2: and want this game to go back to slowing down.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: And I don't know, I guess that actually is a
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 2: valid question at this point, now that I think about it.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: It is tricky, right. You really want is like nice balance, uh,
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: and you want skill to matter, So balance is hard
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 2: and too much randomness means skill matters less. I'm gonna
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: give you a little hint, dry score m Skill never
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 2: mattered in this game.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: Just draw better. That's why SWAT's in our tagline.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: Draw better, get trinks, win game. So three, it's the
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: Lookies three step process to winning every game. Draw better,
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: play trenks, wait, open better, Yeah, open better. Right, Well,
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: it's like the underwear nomes.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 4: Are you done? Are you done? Previewing cards?
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: That's all we have. There's nothing left the preview that's it.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah. No, that's why I'm saying. But there is an
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 4: event that is quickly approaching.
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: What's that?
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 4: That is Evansville. So the Great Midwest Keyboards Charity open.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 4: If you have not already heard about this, have not
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 4: signed up? October tenth and eleventh, going down, and that
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 4: is Evansville, Indiana. Definitely Evansville, Indiana going ahead and.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: Was thinking Evansville, Illinois.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, Evansville, Indiana, but definitely go check it out.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 4: It is a charity benefit, so hey and.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: Them prizes look dope or the swag bag. They call
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: it approach. I order, let me go a look at this. Yeah,
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: I'll say a.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 4: Couple of things on this. So all proceeds go to
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 4: the Southwestern YMCA Community Program. So that's awesome.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: I amc.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 4: There is some really really sweet So if you're going
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 4: to actual event, if you can get there, go like
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 4: our community is great. You'll see a number of individuals there.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 4: But Friday, October tenth, from four to eight is Sealed
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 4: ARCon starts at Sealed ARCon starts at five, and then
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 4: Saturday there's Sealed ARCon that starts at ten. That's what's
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 4: listed here.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: I think they're doing sealed in ARCon.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they're doing Sealed in ARCon.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: But you're gonna get a T shirt, right, This is
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: what you're gonna get. Everybody.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 2: I think it's like a hundred bucks, right, if I'm
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: not mistaken, You're gonna get a T shirt. T shirts
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 2: are cool. They're a little struggle for me because I'm
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 2: a bigger I'm a bigger fella, right, T shirts normally
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 2: what you have like inkle and fit me. But you're
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: gonna get three PV decks, all right, So you get
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 2: your PV decks for your sealed I'm gonna guess right,
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 2: but you're gonna get a set of thirty six ugly
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 2: sweater sleeves.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 4: They're forty. What set of forty?
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 2: It's a set of thirty six on their flyer. But
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 2: it looks I don't even know who they all have.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 2: I know they have discs. I see Brobnar, I see
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 2: and tamed, I see shadows, sanctum mars and logos. If
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: there's more, I don't know about them, but you at
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 2: least have the original seven. You're gonna get some tokens.
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 2: So acrylic tokens I've been complaining about that they don't have.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 2: There looks like there's some stun but enraged in ward tokens.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: What a novel concept? Weird? Who would want those? Where's
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: the power counters? You know you want? So?
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 2: And it looks like you're gonna get a wait, a
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 2: set of tokens and foil key foil keys. I guess
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 2: they're gonna be foil keys. I see the three keys there,
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 2: I guess they're gonna be foils. Pretty dope, and a
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 2: sweet vault deck box looks like it's pretty awesome. Made
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 2: of wood I think, or made of wood type deal
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 2: even either way, go check it out in the discord.
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 2: The flyer's pretty awesome. It looks cool. All four hundred bucks.
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, shoot, the PV decks what they're what are they?
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 2: Fifteen bucks apiece? So what you're you're at forty five
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 2: right there? Set of sleeves is gonna run you five bucks.
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 2: There's fifty bucks. T shirts nowadays are crazy. I mean
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 2: ten bucks right there sets sixty some sweet foil keys.
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 2: I don't even know how much those are. Well, so
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 2: there was the Vault box running back of the day,
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 2: forty to fifty bucks, the vault, the vault thing, it's
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 2: like forty bucks. Wasn't it feel much?
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah? It was.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 2: I think it was like thirty nine to ninety nine.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: So you're and you're getting free tokens and keys.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 4: So definitely show up if you can. Sport's a good cause.
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 4: It'll be play and have a lot of fun.
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: And it supports the YMCA.
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 4: So there's an unopened battle test after our scavenger hunts.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 4: Oh oh yeah, No, there's a lot that Topapa has
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 4: put into this actual you have the custom trophy by Alex,
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 4: that Saint Louis trophy.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: Guy always do. He always does amazing.
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 4: Trophies, raffling, prizing between rounds, side events and Saturday including
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 4: certain darkness. So no, like there's a ton to be
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 4: able to go aheiade take notes.
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: Gg maybe you should hire seriously. All right, so if
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: I go, all right, everybody.
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 2: We're all do we're gonna do a scavenger hunting, I'd
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 2: be like, hell, yeah, we're gonna do a scavenger hunt.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: But it didn't.
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know. You gotta go to the Falling Knife Bury,
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: all right.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 2: You gotta end up at the uh oh shit, I
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 2: was taking a scavenger hunt in the game center, not
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 2: the whole city.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, gotta. You gotta find the Japanese cocktail bar that's
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: closed at like nine pm, nine pm. That's up three
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: flights of stars. Yeah, and then you gotta find the
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: three ugly ones.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 2: Rolling around the city. Are you one of the ugly ones?
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 2: And see how many people act? You know, what you're
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: talking about? What's weird?
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 2: So I'll tell you a little story about the Three
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 2: Ugly Ones. My boss, so my company is based out
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 2: of Minnesota, right, and he came from Minnesota obviously to
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 2: Wisconsin because he's you know, he moved here to be
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 2: the DM And I told I told him about that place,
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 2: and he's like, yeah, it's a pretty shitty strip club.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 2: So like it's it's a well known establishment, just saying.
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 4: Well to go back for to Papa, I will say
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 4: that even if you can't make the event, anyone who
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 4: gives a donation above one hundred dollars wall supplies last
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 4: will receive a gift bag. So they said the minimum
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 4: gift bags will include is the three deck three deck
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 4: deck box, the cherry keys, and the cherry theme tokens.
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 4: Due to limited supplies, the following are not guaranteed with
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 4: the donation. That's your PV deck, ugly sweater, decks, leaves,
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 4: and the T shirt. But regardless if you can support them,
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 4: whether you can make the event or not, if you
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 4: can go to the events, if not, any support goes to.
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: The why look right now flight to You can't get
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: a direct flight there. So if I book a flight
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: to Louisville and then drive the two hours, it's five
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: hundred and seventy three dollars right now around trip. Kind
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: of expensive to.
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 4: Go, you can do it.
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: Price will come down, right maybe probably not from Vegas.
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 4: I will tell you no. Typically it's going to go.
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: Usually goes up the closer again and then unless they
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: need to sell that seat.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I will not be going. I'm struggling right now
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 2: to find coverage for KFC, which is in a month.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 1: So yeah, it's only a month, that's right.
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 2: Figure what I'm doing. We are thirty days away. Well
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 2: we'll actually we're a few more than thirty days, but
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 2: we're about thirty days. Like next week will be like
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 2: thirty days. Get your clocks rolling, KFC.
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 4: We did finish up with will.
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 2: Ewok will be signing autographs. Oh hang up in the
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 2: Maple Nationals.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what that's our last bit. So Canadian Nationals
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 4: did happen last weekend September twenty sixth through twenty eighth.
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 4: They had twenty two players that showed up for Arkhan.
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 4: They had Alliance and Sealed that were staggered, so there
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 4: were five players for Alliance and eighteen players for Sealed.
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 4: I guess there were a couple of players that were
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 4: two and zero that had shown up. There were two
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 4: and oh for Sealed, and they had shown up for Alliance,
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 4: but they continued to stay because they were already two
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 4: and oh. And I get that, but Bendola being this
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 4: ARCon champion. Okay, so Bendola going ahead and still being Bendola,
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 4: and that was piloted by cant Marrow, and then cat
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 4: Merrow goes ahead and took the champion for Alliance, and
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 4: then JDG three or fourteen going ahead and taking the Sealed.
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 4: So congratstore all of y'all.
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, So let's look at what sets were
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: in the top eight for ARC.
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, it is I need to go to bed.
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 2: I don't need the sheep here, but oh my god,
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 2: do something sheep. I am sheeping it right now. It
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 2: was PVGR number of skies.
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 1: There was a top eight. I wonder if what if
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: JML played this? Probably not, but although it would be
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 1: hilarious if he did. Yeah, but he did not.
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 2: Next week we're going to talk about the game the sheep.
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm. I kind of want to buy this game.
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 1: I don't know what's talking about. It's a board game.
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: The sheep.
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah for someone who's trying to get out to bed,
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I think it's next weeks. There were
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 4: two there were two TV Yeah, three g R, one
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 4: v M and one Amber Skies they get that right?
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 1: Sounds about right? Mm hm.
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 2: Why not? But probably not. But it is time for
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 2: I'm all done. It's time for bad Wookie's tired. He's
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 2: got to go in tomorrow morning again at nine o'clock
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 2: and work another open to clothes because I am short
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 2: on people again. If you'd like a job and here
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 2: in the Wisconsin area, I.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 4: Would like to meet to Wisconsin OR'd like to move
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 4: to it like a job.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 2: It's really not that bad. Just when you don't have people,
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 2: it's shitty, you know, that kind of sucks. It'd be
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 2: nice if there were people who showed up to work,
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 2: did their job, and went home.
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: That's all.
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 2: That's really all I ask in return for a decent
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 2: paycheck and.
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: You know all that stuff. But with that being said,
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: we will see you all next week. Happy forging everyone.
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 4: May the Forge be with you later.
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 1: Losers.
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 4: M hm m.
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 3: That what the job out flag flick for a job.
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: When I find you at a coffee, I want to
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: find
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 4: H