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That’s a Doozy: Faith Q&A with Kids - Is It Ever Okay to Steal to Help Someone in Need? · KCMS Spirit 105.3

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Speaker 1: Purposely. Your life. God's purpose. Listen at Purposely.com.
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Speaker 2: How do you get to heaven? Do I really have
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Speaker 2: to read the Bible?
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Speaker 3: How do I pray?
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Speaker 2: Does Jesus really walk on water? That's a doozy.
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Speaker 1: The podcast where kids can get answers to their big
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Speaker 1: questions about faith. Here's your host, Pastor Eric.
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Speaker 3: I'm Pastor Eric, and I am here with some very
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Speaker 3: special people who have some very special questions for us today.
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Speaker 3: And I would love to introduce them to you. We'll
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Speaker 3: start to the person who's on my right. Would you
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Speaker 3: like to share what your name is?
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Speaker 2: My name is Annabelle.
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Speaker 3: Annabelle, what grade are you in?
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Speaker 2: Third grade.
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Speaker 3: What do you think the best part about third grade is?
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Speaker 2: Library class.
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Speaker 3: Ooh, the library class. Okay, so you like to read. Mm-hmm.
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Speaker 3: Let's meet our other very amazing, wonderful friend over here.
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Speaker 3: What's your name?
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Speaker 2: Alden.
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Speaker 1: Alden.
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Speaker 3: What grade are you in?
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Speaker 2: Fourth.
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Speaker 3: Alden, what do you think everybody should know about fourth grade?
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Speaker 2: It's boring.
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Speaker 3: Oh, no. I can't believe it. But you know what?
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Speaker 3: I have a feeling, Alden, there's some fourth graders out
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Speaker 3: there listening that are like, yeah, he's right. But we'll see.
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Speaker 3: I don't know. I thought fourth grade was... That's where
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Speaker 3: I learned... I got to play chess against my teacher
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Speaker 3: in class, and it was pretty exciting, even though I
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Speaker 3: didn't win that often. But anyways, okay, so Annabelle and Alden,
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Speaker 3: I have a question for you. All right, and my
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Speaker 3: question is, if you could eat any candy for the
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Speaker 3: rest of your life, what candy would you eat?
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Speaker 2: Can it be like cookies?
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Speaker 3: Why not? Sure, yeah. You like cookies?
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Speaker 2: Chocolate.
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Speaker 3: Chocolate cookies. Are there chocolate chips in these chocolate cookies?
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Speaker 2: No.
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Speaker 3: No chocolate? Just chocolate cookies? Straight up? I like it.
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Speaker 3: That's pretty simple. Annabelle, while your brother's over there munching
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Speaker 3: on some chocolate cookies, what are you going to be
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Speaker 3: munching on?
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Speaker 2: Hershey's.
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Speaker 1: Hershey's?
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Speaker 3: Now, Hershey's has a lot of different types of candy
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Speaker 3: and chocolate out there. What kind of Hershey's?
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Speaker 2: Just like the tiny bars.
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Speaker 3: Wait a second. If you could have any chocolate or
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Speaker 3: any dessert, you would choose the tiny bars? Yeah.
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Speaker 2: But I'd eat a lot of them, so I'd make
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Speaker 2: up a big bar.
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Speaker 1: I like that.
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Speaker 3: You'd eat a lot of the little bars. That works. Okay. Well,
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Speaker 3: thanks for answering that question. Alden, do you have a
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Speaker 3: question you want to ask?
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Speaker 2: Sure. All right.
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Speaker 3: Let's hear it.
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Speaker 2: Is it a sin to steal from the rich to
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Speaker 2: feed the poor?
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Speaker 3: Okay, I like that question. Is it a sin to
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Speaker 3: steal from the rich to give to the poor? I mean,
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Speaker 3: after all, the rich, they've got so much. Do they
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Speaker 3: need it all?
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Speaker 1: No.
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Speaker 3: They don't need it, right? And the poor people, they
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Speaker 3: have a lot of needs, right? I'm just curious, Alden,
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Speaker 3: where did you come up with that idea for that question?
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Speaker 2: Just thought of it.
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Speaker 3: You just thought of it? Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I did.
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Speaker 3: No.
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Speaker 2: No, I didn't. Stop it. I just thought of it.
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Speaker 3: I'm curious, Annabelle, what does it make you think of?
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Speaker 3: robin hood that's i was thinking of robin hood too
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Speaker 3: but i mean i didn't you you weren't thinking of
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Speaker 3: robin that's okay you came.
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Speaker 2: Up with the question while we were watching robin.
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Speaker 3: I think he you know he might have come up
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Speaker 3: with a different time but i when i when i
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Speaker 3: hear that question alden it makes it makes me think
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Speaker 3: of robin hood who you know it was a fun
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Speaker 3: story to watch and it was like this guy by
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Speaker 3: the way wouldn't you love to be able to shoot
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Speaker 3: a bow and arrow like robin hood And to be
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Speaker 3: able to split another arrow in twine.
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Speaker 2: Or in two.
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Speaker 3: That's a fancy way of saying it. So Robin Hood,
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Speaker 3: he was this character known for stealing from the rich people.
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Speaker 3: I'm curious, you know, when you see the movie Robin Hood,
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Speaker 3: how are the rich people always portrayed?
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Speaker 2: Evil.
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Speaker 3: Evil, right? Like they're always like mean and, oh, it's
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Speaker 3: my money. You can't have any.
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Speaker 1: Right?
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Speaker 3: And they're kind of, you know, mean to other people.
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Speaker 2: And they're always bossing around like they're servants.
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Speaker 3: Well, so I think there is two things that we
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Speaker 3: can talk about for this question, right? First is, is
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Speaker 3: it okay to steal? All right. And then how do
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Speaker 3: we feed the poor? So let's start off with the
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Speaker 3: first one, the first part of that. The question of stealing.
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Speaker 3: Does the Bible say anything about stealing?
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Speaker 2: Yes. It does.
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Speaker 3: Alden, what does the Bible say about stealing?
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Speaker 2: That people did it.
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Speaker 3: And was God okay with that? What did God say
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Speaker 3: about stealing?
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Speaker 2: It was in the Ten Commandments, do not steal.
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Speaker 3: That's right. So the Bible tells us, God tells us,
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Speaker 3: he says, it's really important to me that you don't steal, right?
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Speaker 3: He wants us to be honest, right? Because God is
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Speaker 3: an honest God.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 3: So in Exodus 20, it talks about that. And it's
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Speaker 3: repeated in the New Testament in Romans chapter 13. God
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Speaker 3: doesn't want us to steal.
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Speaker 2: All right.
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Speaker 3: Now, you know what God does want us to do
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Speaker 3: when it comes to money? What do you think?
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Speaker 2: Feed the poor.
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Speaker 3: Help the poor.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: In Ephesians 4. The Apostle Paul, he writes and he
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Speaker 3: tells the people in the church in Ephesus, he says, hey,
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Speaker 3: don't steal. And if you were a thief, Alden, what's
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Speaker 3: a thief?
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Speaker 2: Someone who takes stuff.
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Speaker 3: Someone who takes stuff, right? He's like, if you're a thief,
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Speaker 3: you need to stop stealing and start working hard. And
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Speaker 3: why do we work? What do we get after we
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Speaker 3: work hard?
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Speaker 2: You earn.
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Speaker 3: You earn money, right? And then Paul says, and then
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Speaker 3: take that money that you earn and help others and
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Speaker 3: give to others, right? So God tells us very clearly
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Speaker 3: that he doesn't want us to steal because stealing would
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Speaker 3: be what? Called a sin, right? And so stealing would
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Speaker 3: be a sin. And he says, don't steal. But what
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Speaker 3: he does say to everybody is you need to work,
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Speaker 3: work hard so you can earn money. And when you
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Speaker 3: have that money, He wants people to use it to
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Speaker 3: bless others. There's also something else that I think Alden
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Speaker 3: is in a verse that talks about this. And he
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Speaker 3: says in the book of James chapter five, he warns
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Speaker 3: the people in this world who do have lots of money.
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Speaker 3: He warns them that they need to be very careful
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Speaker 3: with how they spend their money. And that they need
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Speaker 3: to make sure that they're not taking advantage of poor
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Speaker 3: people or not helping poor people, but rather they need
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Speaker 3: to consider how they can help those who are in
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Speaker 3: need around them. And James has some very strong words
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Speaker 3: about people who have things to help other people around them.
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Speaker 3: Does that make sense, Alden?
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: So the question then... what are the poor people supposed
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Speaker 3: to do if they don't have a lot? And let's
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Speaker 3: say they would work, but they don't have a lot
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Speaker 3: of work to do to earn money. What are they
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Speaker 3: supposed to do? I don't know. And it's okay to say,
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Speaker 3: I don't know. That's a hard question. And a lot
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Speaker 3: of people today ask that question. But one thing that
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Speaker 3: Jesus does tell people who have needs, and we all
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Speaker 3: have needs sometimes, And a lot of times we're very
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Speaker 3: blessed and fortunate that we have those needs met every
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Speaker 3: day when we wake up, right? But some people don't.
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Speaker 3: And Jesus talks to a bunch of people in the
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Speaker 3: Gospel of Matthew in chapter 6. He's talking to a
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Speaker 3: lot of people. And a lot of these people listening
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Speaker 3: to Jesus, they might not have had food every day.
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Speaker 3: They might not have had a shelter over their head.
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Speaker 3: And in Matthew 6, he tells them, he says, look
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Speaker 3: around you. And he says, look at that bird. You
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Speaker 3: see that sparrow over there? He says, that sparrow, do
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Speaker 3: they have food? And do you think birds find food?
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 3: Does God care for the sparrows? He does. God provides
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Speaker 3: food for the sparrows and for all of creation.
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Speaker 2: Because he uses us to grow stuff.
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Speaker 1: That is true.
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Speaker 2: And the wind to spread seeds.
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Speaker 3: Who controls the wind?
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Speaker 2: God. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: So Jesus says, God takes care of that sparrow over there.
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Speaker 3: And if God is taking care of a sparrow, do
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Speaker 3: you think God will take care of people? What do
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Speaker 3: you think the answer is to that?
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Speaker 2: Yes. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Do you think, Alden, that God will take care of people? Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: And so Jesus tells the people listening who have needs,
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Speaker 3: he says, have faith in your father and trust God
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Speaker 3: that he will provide. Now, sometimes it's maybe it doesn't
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Speaker 3: seem like it's a lot. It's not like bread and
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Speaker 3: water are coming out of our ears. So sometimes it
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Speaker 3: might not be like there's a whole bunch of extra,
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Speaker 3: but God will provide what we need in those moments.
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Speaker 3: And so Jesus says to have faith. So I would say, Alden,
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Speaker 3: your question, which is a great question. Is it okay
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Speaker 3: to steal from the rich as long as we're giving
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Speaker 3: to the poor? Well, God is never going to ask
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Speaker 3: us to sin in order to be obedient to him.
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Speaker 3: And what we can do, though, is we can be
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Speaker 3: responsible by working hard. And then when we are blessed,
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Speaker 3: we can help other people. And for everyone in the
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Speaker 3: times when we are in need, we can have faith
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Speaker 3: and we need to trust that God will provide. Does
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Speaker 3: that make sense? Yeah. Answer your question. Yeah. For now.
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Speaker 3: All right, Annabelle, I see you with your little notepad
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Speaker 3: over there. You've got questions. What's your question?
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Speaker 2: Why do we wear clothes if Adam and Eve didn't?
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Speaker 3: That is a wonderful question. Right now, I'm just thinking
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Speaker 3: about all the Bible stories about creation and the sixth
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Speaker 3: day when God made Adam and Eve. And you always
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Speaker 3: see the pictures of Adam and Eve. And where are
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Speaker 3: they standing?
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Speaker 2: Behind bushes.
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Speaker 3: Behind bushes. Why are they standing behind bushes?
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Speaker 1: Do you know?
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Speaker 2: No.
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Speaker 3: Because, like you just said, they didn't have any clothes on.
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Speaker 3: So in the books, they put them behind bushes just,
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Speaker 3: you know, because it would be a little awkward. Do
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Speaker 3: you think it's ever a little silly to think that
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Speaker 3: when God created Adam and Eve, they didn't have any clothes?
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Alden, is that silly to you? Maybe. Maybe a little.
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Speaker 3: It's not normal for us to think of people walking
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Speaker 3: around without clothes, right? So then the question is, why?
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Speaker 3: Why were they created without clothes? I mean, God could
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Speaker 3: have made them some pretty fancy outfits, I bet. If
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Speaker 3: you could pick out any outfit to wear, Alden, I'm curious,
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Speaker 3: what would you wear?
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Speaker 2: Normal stuff.
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Speaker 3: Like a tuxedo?
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Speaker 2: Nope.
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Speaker 3: No, I think you'd look good in a tuxedo. You're
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Speaker 3: more of like the sweats kind of guy, sweatpants. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Keeping it simple. How about you, Annabelle? What would you wear?
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Speaker 3: Pick out anything.
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Speaker 2: A summer dress.
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Speaker 1: Ooh, a summer dress. Okay.
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Speaker 3: Well, here is... That's a great question. So let's ask ourselves,
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Speaker 3: why didn't they have clothes? And then why did they
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Speaker 3: eventually wear clothes? And why do we wear clothes? Okay.
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Speaker 3: I love that question. I think it's great. Well... In
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Speaker 3: Genesis 2, and I think it's worth reading this one,
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Speaker 3: Genesis 2.25, it's actually, Annabelle, do you want to read it?
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Speaker 3: Genesis 2.25, can you read what it says?
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Speaker 2: Therefore, a man shall leave his father and his mother
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Speaker 2: and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become
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Speaker 2: one flesh. And the man and his wife were both
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Speaker 2: naked and were not ashamed.
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Speaker 3: So in the beginning, when Adam and Eve were walking
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Speaker 3: around through the garden, it says that they didn't have clothes.
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Speaker 3: And here's the interesting part. They weren't ashamed. They weren't embarrassed.
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Speaker 3: They weren't thinking like, oh no, what if someone sees me?
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Speaker 3: They were just walking around, which is really weird for
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Speaker 3: us to think about. Now, something happened between that point
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Speaker 3: in time and when they did wear clothes. Annabelle, what happened?
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Speaker 2: They ate the fruit of the tree and it made
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Speaker 2: them ashamed of themselves.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they ate the fruit. And that was, again, what
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Speaker 3: is that called when you disobey God? Sin. And eating
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Speaker 3: the fruit on the tree was the very first time
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Speaker 3: that people disobeyed God. And what came into the world
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Speaker 3: at that point?
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Speaker 2: Sin. Sin.
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Speaker 3: And now the relationship between Adam and Eve that was
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Speaker 3: perfect and wonderful was now broken. I'm curious, Alden and Annabelle,
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Speaker 3: has anyone ever done something mean or sinned against you
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Speaker 3: and it changed your friendship with that person?
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 3: Alden, has that ever happened to you? Yeah. And it's sad, right?
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Speaker 3: When someone does that, but you can't just pretend like
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Speaker 3: it didn't happen. Well, sin entered the world and everything changed.
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Speaker 3: In Genesis 3, 7 through 8, I'll read what happens.
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Speaker 3: But it says, after they ate, both Eve and Adam,
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Speaker 3: after they ate, it says, then the eyes of both
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Speaker 3: were opened and they knew that they were naked. And
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Speaker 3: they sewed fig leaves together and made themselves loincloths. And then,
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Speaker 3: get this, they heard the sound of the Lord God
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Speaker 3: walking in the garden in the cool of the day.
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Speaker 3: And the man and his wife hid themselves from the
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Speaker 3: presence of the Lord God among the trees of the garden.
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Speaker 3: So here they are walking around. They eat the fruit.
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Speaker 3: That wasn't that bad. I mean, we're not dead. And
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Speaker 3: they look down and they say, yikes, we don't have
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Speaker 3: any clothes. And they cover themselves up and they're feeling
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Speaker 3: really embarrassed. And they quickly find a big leaf and
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Speaker 3: they make clothes, which, by the way, I don't think
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Speaker 3: a fig leaf would be that comfortable.
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Speaker 2: Do you? No.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think so. But then it says, as
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Speaker 3: they hear Jesus' God's footsteps in the garden, they are what?
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Speaker 2: Ashamed.
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Speaker 3: Ashamed and?
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Speaker 2: Embarrassed.
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Speaker 3: It says that they were embarrassed and that they were afraid.
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Speaker 3: They were afraid of what was going to happen. And
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Speaker 3: because they were afraid, they made the choice and decided
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Speaker 3: that they needed to cover up. Because they wanted to
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Speaker 3: cover up their embarrassment and their guilt and their shame.
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Speaker 3: I'm curious. This reminds me of a story when I
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Speaker 3: was a kid. Have you ever gone to a movie theater? Yes.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 3: Have you ever seen the signs that say, don't bring
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Speaker 3: food into the movie theater?
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Yes. Well, I'm going to admit something here. One time
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Speaker 3: someone told me, they're like, Eric, bring this candy and
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Speaker 3: this soda and put it in your pocket and then
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Speaker 3: walk into the theater. And I did. And how do
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Speaker 3: you think I felt when I was doing that? Worried.
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Speaker 3: I was very, very worried. I know I was nervous
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Speaker 3: and I felt kind of guilty and I was hiding it.
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Speaker 3: How was I hiding it?
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Speaker 2: In your pocket.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was covering it up with my clothes, right?
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Speaker 3: And I felt ashamed and I was worried and I
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Speaker 3: was a little afraid. Well, after sin came into the world,
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Speaker 3: Adam and Eve felt that shame and they felt that fear.
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Speaker 3: Nothing was the same. Here's a question for you, since
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Speaker 3: we're talking about wearing things. When a soldier goes into
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Speaker 3: a war zone or into a scary place, what do
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Speaker 3: they typically wear?
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Speaker 2: Armor.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, armor. What do you think, Alden? What would that
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Speaker 3: armor be? What kind of things?
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Speaker 1: Heavy armor.
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Speaker 3: Heavy armor. Yeah, do you think they're going to put
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Speaker 3: on like a nice little light pair of shorts and
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Speaker 3: a tank top and some flip flops and go into
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Speaker 3: the war zone?
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Speaker 2: No.
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Speaker 3: No, because you say yes. I don't know, Alden. I
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Speaker 3: don't know about that. Well, I know that soldiers are
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Speaker 3: going to cover themselves up, right? Because is the war
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Speaker 3: zone a safe place?
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Speaker 2: No.
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Speaker 3: No, it's not. And because sin entered into the world
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Speaker 3: after Adam and Eve ate that fruit and disobeyed God,
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Speaker 3: it was no longer the safe and the peaceful place
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Speaker 3: that it used to be. And so they felt this
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Speaker 3: need to cover themselves up. And in some ways, Annabelle,
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Speaker 3: the clothes that they put on were also a reflection
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Speaker 3: of their heart. That they no longer wanted to be
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Speaker 3: seen by others, and they didn't want anyone else to
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Speaker 3: see them whole. But they wanted to cover themselves up
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Speaker 3: because of the sin. And because sin is in the world,
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Speaker 3: It continues to be that way. Not only that, but
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Speaker 3: so they made fig leaves. Now, in the story in
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Speaker 3: Genesis chapter 3, did they always wear fig leaves or
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Speaker 3: did that change?
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Speaker 2: No.
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Speaker 3: No. What happened?
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Speaker 2: They found other materials to use.
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Speaker 3: They did. But do you know who made their very
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Speaker 3: first outfit out of skin, animal skin?
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Speaker 1: No.
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Speaker 3: Do you know, Alden?
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Speaker 2: God. God.
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Speaker 3: That's right.
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Speaker 1: It was.
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Speaker 3: It was God. And it tells us that God, he
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Speaker 3: found an animal and he had to kill that animal,
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Speaker 3: which would have been the first death in the Garden
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Speaker 3: of Eden. And he used that for the skin, for
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Speaker 3: the clothes. So God confirmed that in this new world
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Speaker 3: where sin was wreaking havoc, where you could no longer
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Speaker 3: feel complete peace anymore, And where there would be shame,
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Speaker 3: God confirmed that it was probably a good thing to
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Speaker 3: wear clothes on yourself in the new world affected, infected
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Speaker 3: by the sin. Because the whole world changed after that.
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Speaker 3: So Annabelle, I don't know, does that kind of help
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Speaker 3: with answering your question? Yeah. A little bit?
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Um i think that it helps to remember that the
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Speaker 3: clothes that they put on were also a reflection of
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Speaker 3: their heart and how the whole world around them changed
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Speaker 3: so great question i i think that's you're one of
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Speaker 3: the first kids that asked me that so two thumbs
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Speaker 3: up to you well i want to thank you two
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Speaker 3: for asking your questions and i'm thankful for everyone who
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Speaker 3: is listening you know if you're listening today and you
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Speaker 3: have questions, did you know that you can either call
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Speaker 3: or text in your questions? That's right. Simply text doozy.
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Speaker 3: That's D O O Z Y 2 8 9 4
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Speaker 3: 1 9 and ask your doozy of a question. Just
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Speaker 3: like my friend Annabelle and Alden here. And I bet
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Speaker 3: you're not the only one thinking of it. And parents,
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Speaker 3: if you're listening and your kids asked you a question
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Speaker 3: that you would like to share with others, we'd love
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Speaker 3: to hear from you as well. I hope you enjoyed
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Speaker 3: our time together answering some doozies. Would you like to
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Speaker 3: say goodbye to everyone who's listening to the podcast?
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Speaker 2: Sure.
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Speaker 3: Okay, go ahead.
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Speaker 1: Say it.
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Speaker 3: Bye.
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Speaker 2: Bye. All right.
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Speaker 3: I'm Pastor Eric. And remember, no matter how big your
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Speaker 3: questions are, our God is bigger and he wants us
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Speaker 3: to be honest when we have a doozy of a question.
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Speaker 3: So don't stop wondering.