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- 0:00Speaker 1: Hello.
- 0:01Speaker 2: My name is Kai, and I am a bit of
- 0:03Speaker 2: a rambler. I like to travel, learn and tell stories.
- 0:07Speaker 2: And today I want to talk about my gung ho
- 0:10Speaker 2: travel attitude and how I can keep so positive and
- 0:14Speaker 2: keep traveling and have all this energy to book a
- 0:18Speaker 2: plane ticket and get my visas and go to countries
- 0:24Speaker 2: and for fifteen years for living abroad for fifteen years
- 0:28Speaker 2: so far, even if I hung up my skates tomorrow
- 0:33Speaker 2: and went on back home, because well, for whatever reason,
- 0:38Speaker 2: fifteen years would be a long time traveling and people
- 0:42Speaker 2: would probably still ask me this same question I get
- 0:46Speaker 2: all the time about, generally paraphrasing, but my gung ho
- 0:50Speaker 2: travel attitude. Many of my friends back in the States
- 0:54Speaker 2: tell me that they just don't have the energy to travel,
- 0:59Speaker 2: and they wouldn't want to plan ahead, wouldn't want to
- 1:03Speaker 2: have to deal with the headache of planning a vacation
- 1:08Speaker 2: basically every week. And I was flabbergasted by this the
- 1:14Speaker 2: first time I heard it, because my life is so
- 1:17Speaker 2: much more relaxing and stress free as a traveler than
- 1:23Speaker 2: it ever was in the States. But I think that's
- 1:25Speaker 2: because I didn't really I didn't go back to the
- 1:29Speaker 2: States really for the first a long time. For the
- 1:34Speaker 2: first like six years after I left the US to
- 1:39Speaker 2: go to China and teach English. So I was in
- 1:42Speaker 2: Beijing for three and a half years, and then, aside
- 1:45Speaker 2: from visiting briefly for a friend's wedding, I then traveled
- 1:52Speaker 2: after Beijing for nine to ten months across Southeast Asia
- 1:59Speaker 2: or maybe you're I don't know, I'd have to check.
- 2:01Speaker 2: I'm terrible with remembering the dates of things. But after traveling,
- 2:06Speaker 2: because after Beijing for three and a half years, I
- 2:07Speaker 2: was like, Okay, I'm good, I'm gonna retire, folks. And
- 2:11Speaker 2: then after that my friend called me up and asked
- 2:13Speaker 2: if I wanted to start my own school with her
- 2:16Speaker 2: back in China, and I hadn't started my own so
- 2:20Speaker 2: I thought, yeah, that could be fun. So I started
- 2:22Speaker 2: my own school for two and a half years in Chungdu.
- 2:26Speaker 2: But I know, yeah, over those six years plus six
- 2:31Speaker 2: years in China, plus the nine whatever months traveling to
- 2:35Speaker 2: a bunch of other countries, I didn't live in the
- 2:38Speaker 2: States again that whole time, So my outlook on travel
- 2:43Speaker 2: and my outlook on life on living life was completely different.
- 2:48Speaker 2: Just my day to day understanding of what life was
- 2:52Speaker 2: had somewhat gradually but entirely changed, so that when I
- 2:57Speaker 2: went back to the States for longer visits and I
- 3:00Speaker 2: started talking to a lot of people who expressed these
- 3:05Speaker 2: questions and concerns and often misunderstandings about travel. They would
- 3:11Speaker 2: frequently say, to my initial confusion, while you're so positive
- 3:16Speaker 2: or you're so gung ho, I don't know how you
- 3:18Speaker 2: have so much energy to travel. All the time, that
- 3:22Speaker 2: was flumixing, and I came across it a lot, and
- 3:27Speaker 2: I still get it a lot. And I also got
- 3:29Speaker 2: I can't understand how you can afford it, And that
- 3:32Speaker 2: one's a lot easier to explain, well, sort of, it's
- 3:37Speaker 2: easier to show that one to people anyway, because I
- 3:42Speaker 2: don't know how you can afford it. I can pull
- 3:44Speaker 2: up skyscanner and show them tickets, and people, invariable anyone
- 3:51Speaker 2: who says I don't know how you can afford travel,
- 3:53Speaker 2: I show them how much it costs for a plane
- 3:56Speaker 2: ticket to fly literally halfway around the world, and I'll say, wait,
- 4:01Speaker 2: it's only that much, and they're shocked at the prices,
- 4:06Speaker 2: and I'm like yeah, And once you are anywhere, if
- 4:08Speaker 2: you're flying from one country to the next country that's
- 4:12Speaker 2: next to it, it's never going to be more than
- 4:14Speaker 2: one hundred dollars, Like if you're flying from Japan to
- 4:17Speaker 2: China or all around Southeast Days or anywhere. From a
- 4:21Speaker 2: Western European country to another, it's almost always. I'm sure
- 4:25Speaker 2: there are exceptions, I'm not thinking about. China to Mongolia
- 4:29Speaker 2: was expensive. Like countries that don't have a lot of tourism,
- 4:32Speaker 2: I guess, like Mongolia, they'll be a little more expensive,
- 4:38Speaker 2: like over one hundred dollars. But generally it's very cheap
- 4:40Speaker 2: to fly from one country to another, like from Ireland
- 4:45Speaker 2: to Morocco under ten US dollars still. And I booked
- 4:49Speaker 2: my Ireland to Morocco ticket a long time ago. I
- 4:52Speaker 2: don't know how long, but twelve years ago maybe, and
- 4:56Speaker 2: it was eight dollars or something like that. And I
- 5:00Speaker 2: always check that now and get like now and again
- 5:03Speaker 2: just to see what the prices are. And they're still
- 5:05Speaker 2: they still have under ten dollars flights the last time
- 5:09Speaker 2: I checked from Ireland to Morocco. So once you are traveling,
- 5:14Speaker 2: traveling to the next country is very cheap. And when
- 5:19Speaker 2: people who are paying a mortgage or a lease on
- 5:22Speaker 2: their car or any kind of medical care or education
- 5:27Speaker 2: in the US, ask me, how do you afford it?
- 5:30Speaker 2: I just have to show them the prices, and I'm like, well,
- 5:33Speaker 2: it costs me way under one thousand dollars per month
- 5:37Speaker 2: to live abroad. This is and it costs everybody. Here's
- 5:40Speaker 2: the listing for a house. Most private houses and condos
- 5:44Speaker 2: apartments are under four hundred dollars US and then it's
- 5:49Speaker 2: only a couple hundred for food and data for your phone.
- 5:54Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm spending six hundred to seven hundred a
- 5:57Speaker 2: month living abroad, and that at least that's easier to
- 6:02Speaker 2: show than the gung ho attitude. So much energy, because
- 6:08Speaker 2: those are the actual prices, and they're on every platform,
- 6:11Speaker 2: and I only used like two things primarily.
- 6:14Speaker 1: I'm usually using.
- 6:16Speaker 2: Skyscanner or yeah, sometimes Kayak, like a couple other ones,
- 6:21Speaker 2: usually just Skyscanner, and then usually monthly rentals on Airbnb,
- 6:25Speaker 2: and those are very common.
- 6:27Speaker 1: Everyone knows what those are now these days.
- 6:29Speaker 2: Nobody knew what skyscanner was when I started using it. Actually,
- 6:33Speaker 2: I just found out it worked so well. It's been
- 6:37Speaker 2: really interesting to see it become the dominant flight search
- 6:40Speaker 2: engine the past decade and a half, But they can
- 6:45Speaker 2: look it up themselves right there, and I'll show them
- 6:47Speaker 2: houses and all the places I've lived in and the receipts,
- 6:51Speaker 2: like this one was two hundred and seventy dollars per month,
- 6:54Speaker 2: this one's three hundred and thirteen dollars per month. And
- 6:56Speaker 2: these are large private apartments and housing. So even if
- 7:03Speaker 2: it's difficult to believe those prices are there, and they
- 7:06Speaker 2: see like it is available to purchase life in other
- 7:11Speaker 2: countries at a much reduced rate then living in the US.
- 7:15Speaker 2: The gung ho travel attitude is more difficult because I
- 7:19Speaker 2: can't just pull up the numbers, but it's the same thing.
- 7:24Speaker 2: It's the same practical reason as finances there are. I
- 7:32Speaker 2: explained that I don't have a gung ho travel attitude
- 7:37Speaker 2: anymore than I have a gung Ho I'm alive attitude.
- 7:42Speaker 2: I like eating ice cream, and I like reading books
- 7:47Speaker 2: and walking around in the park attitude, like I like
- 7:52Speaker 2: parts of being alive, and I want to continue enjoying
- 7:57Speaker 2: as many parts of the parts I enjoy about life.
- 8:01Speaker 1: As I can.
- 8:02Speaker 2: So in the same way that financially traveling abroad is
- 8:06Speaker 2: so inexpensive, it just makes practical sense I also receive
- 8:10Speaker 2: so many practical benefits by being abroad, like more time
- 8:15Speaker 2: to myself, more free time, way less stress in almost
- 8:18Speaker 2: every area, that it just makes sense to keep traveling
- 8:24Speaker 2: rather than live a sedentary life in the US. It's
- 8:29Speaker 2: just logically, since I like walking around in parks, I
- 8:32Speaker 2: can do that way more if I travel, And I
- 8:35Speaker 2: like climbing mountains and traveling across countries and learning new things,
- 8:42Speaker 2: and that's much easier to do in like while I'm
- 8:47Speaker 2: abroad than it is while I'm living a sedentary life somewhere,
- 8:51Speaker 2: and all live a sedentary life for three months at
- 8:54Speaker 2: a time, all of place, three months at a time.
- 8:58Speaker 2: Three months gives me a long amount of time, enough
- 9:01Speaker 2: amount of time to explore a lot of the geography
- 9:06Speaker 2: well that's not even true sometimes, but some of the
- 9:08Speaker 2: geography of where I am, and some of the inhabited
- 9:12Speaker 2: city populated part, but also all the natural mountains and
- 9:16Speaker 2: rivers and lakes and canyons whatnot around where I am
- 9:19Speaker 2: before I go to the next place. But if I was,
- 9:22Speaker 2: if I chose like one country and I just lived
- 9:25Speaker 2: in Austria, let's say arbitrarily beautiful mountains, amazing place and
- 9:32Speaker 2: so many countries. When I get to them, as soon
- 9:35Speaker 2: as after I've lived there for a couple days, I'm like, yep,
- 9:38Speaker 2: I could just live here forever. But if I want
- 9:41Speaker 2: to go from Austria to Germany, I have to go
- 9:44Speaker 2: there and then I have to go back, and it's
- 9:47Speaker 2: two trips. And if I want to go to Spain,
- 9:50Speaker 2: I gotta go farther and I gotta go back. And
- 9:52Speaker 2: if I want to go to Japan from Austria, I
- 9:54Speaker 2: gotta take a bunch of flights, get to Japan and
- 9:57Speaker 2: then go all the way back. Versus if I'm I
- 10:01Speaker 2: fly to fly from Austria to England and that's a
- 10:08Speaker 2: direct flight and I just go over there. It's much
- 10:11Speaker 2: less time than if I had to take multiple flights
- 10:13Speaker 2: to Japan. And now I'm in England and then I
- 10:16Speaker 2: can take the next flight over to Denver and visit
- 10:20Speaker 2: some friends, and then take a flight down to Mexico,
- 10:25Speaker 2: and then I can take one flight over to Hawaii,
- 10:29Speaker 2: probably too. You usually go through LA and then from
- 10:34Speaker 2: Hawaii I can go to a country in Asia and
- 10:36Speaker 2: I can stay in whatever Korea for a month, and
- 10:39Speaker 2: then fly over to China and stay for a month
- 10:42Speaker 2: and then fly over to whatever and stay for a
- 10:45Speaker 2: month or three months, and I don't have to have
- 10:50Speaker 2: a return trip.
- 10:50Speaker 1: Basically, I don't.
- 10:51Speaker 2: Have to take care or maintain or pay for a
- 10:55Speaker 2: home base, because my home base is wherever I go,
- 11:00Speaker 2: often for two three months at a time. And there's
- 11:04Speaker 2: nothing I don't have at these places that I would
- 11:07Speaker 2: have at a permanent, longer term residence. I have all
- 11:12Speaker 2: of the utilities, and I have all of the appliances
- 11:15Speaker 2: I need. And if I don't have the appliances I need,
- 11:18Speaker 2: I can often buy them at the store very easily.
- 11:21Speaker 2: And this is all to say that what seems like
- 11:24Speaker 2: a gung ho travel attitude is much more for me
- 11:30Speaker 2: about stability, about living a stable, comfortable life where all
- 11:36Speaker 2: of the practical matters are taken care of without excess stress,
- 11:41Speaker 2: without stress or struggle that I don't need to encounter.
- 11:47Speaker 2: Travel just affords me that practical, comfortable life that I
- 11:54Speaker 2: understand many people are pursuing. Many people aim for retirement
- 11:58Speaker 2: because they want to stop working, and traveling certainly does
- 12:03Speaker 2: that for me. Because most of the countries in the
- 12:07Speaker 2: world a good I can I'm sure comfortably say eighty
- 12:11Speaker 2: percent of the world costs under one thousand dollars a
- 12:16Speaker 2: month or twelve thousand US dollars per year to live
- 12:20Speaker 2: in including the United States. You can get a private room
- 12:23Speaker 2: across the United States for six hundred bucks if you're
- 12:27Speaker 2: choosing from the whole country rather than just choosing from
- 12:29Speaker 2: one area in the country. As a traveler, my options
- 12:34Speaker 2: are open to the entire country. So when I stay
- 12:37Speaker 2: in an expensive housing crisis country Japan, Germany, a lot
- 12:42Speaker 2: of places in Western Europe, I guess I get to
- 12:46Speaker 2: choose from anywhere in the country, so I can always
- 12:48Speaker 2: find the best housing at the lowest price around the
- 12:50Speaker 2: entire country. Rather than saying, Okay, I'm permanently moving from
- 12:55Speaker 2: this place to permanently in this one place, and then
- 12:59Speaker 2: I have to in that place, so my radius to
- 13:02Speaker 2: find good housing is much smaller, a couple miles maybe,
- 13:06Speaker 2: instead of the entire country. My work was English teaching,
- 13:10Speaker 2: and that can be a completely remote job, so I
- 13:13Speaker 2: don't have to relocate based on my job and stay
- 13:17Speaker 2: within a particular radius of how far away my job is.
- 13:20Speaker 2: And then I invested time and money into passive income,
- 13:26Speaker 2: and now that's my primary means. So passive income, you know,
- 13:31Speaker 2: just is passively incoming each month. And index funds are
- 13:37Speaker 2: also something that everyone can put their money into. RIIT
- 13:41Speaker 2: real estate investment trusts, peer to peer lending our investment
- 13:45Speaker 2: vehicles that if you have one hundred dollars, you can
- 13:49Speaker 2: put it in there and you'll get four dollars back
- 13:53Speaker 2: every year at a bad rate. Many index funds are.
- 13:57Speaker 2: They're more averagey around seven. I don't want to give
- 14:00Speaker 2: any numbers because index funds are so volatile, but they're
- 14:03Speaker 2: generally high enough that you can expect five percent at
- 14:06Speaker 2: least back. So if you invest a couple hundred thousand,
- 14:10Speaker 2: you will get at five percent average all the investments
- 14:14Speaker 2: put together ten thousand a year, and that's eight hundred
- 14:18Speaker 2: a month. And that's far more than the five hundred
- 14:22Speaker 2: dollars a month you need to live in most of
- 14:24Speaker 2: the world because the housing is less than four hundred dollars.
- 14:28Speaker 2: And if the housing is less than four hundred dollars
- 14:30Speaker 2: in any country, then the rest of that five hundred dollars,
- 14:34Speaker 2: the one hundred and fifty dollars left over, is enough
- 14:35Speaker 2: for you to buy groceries and a phone plan and
- 14:38Speaker 2: utilities are all included with the apartment. So traveling and
- 14:43Speaker 2: choosing from the countries for the best housing at the
- 14:47Speaker 2: best price, and the best wonder of the world of
- 14:52Speaker 2: that country, the best site to see at the best price,
- 14:56Speaker 2: is just it's all practical matter. I don't have a
- 15:00Speaker 2: gung ho attitude, and it's been expressed to me by
- 15:05Speaker 2: many people who have not traveled yet that I must
- 15:10Speaker 2: have some kind of insatiable need to adventure and explore.
- 15:16Speaker 2: And if they're asking about the prices, I can just
- 15:19Speaker 2: show them prices. But if they're asking about my insatiable
- 15:21Speaker 2: need for adventure, I have to explain, no, it's just
- 15:25Speaker 2: way easier living life this way. I can just get
- 15:30Speaker 2: all the things I wanted in life way quicker instead
- 15:35Speaker 2: of waiting. I can build up my savings for investment,
- 15:40Speaker 2: vehicles and passive income much quicker. If I'm only paying
- 15:44Speaker 2: five hundred dollars per month for my total living expenses
- 15:48Speaker 2: or one thousand per month in the expensive countries, rather
- 15:51Speaker 2: than if I was living back in the States or
- 15:54Speaker 2: in many any other higher cost of living country. I
- 15:59Speaker 2: usually live in the lower cost of a living countries,
- 16:02Speaker 2: and even if I go to a higher cost of
- 16:03Speaker 2: a living because I get to choose from the entire country.
- 16:07Speaker 2: If I'm in an expensive country like South Korea, I
- 16:10Speaker 2: still get the cheaper the cheapest cost of living in
- 16:14Speaker 2: that country that is available across the entire country, whereas
- 16:17Speaker 2: if I was sedentary or moving permanently to one location,
- 16:20Speaker 2: I wouldn't be able to make that choice. So that's
- 16:24Speaker 2: the thesis here. My gung ho travel attitude is a
- 16:27Speaker 2: result of practicality. And when I tell them about visiting
- 16:33Speaker 2: anchor Wat, or hiking for three months across Japan, or
- 16:39Speaker 2: snorkeling with sea turtles or whatever it is I do
- 16:44Speaker 2: cycling one hundred miles from Beijing to Tianjin and back,
- 16:49Speaker 2: I get that same like, oh, you have so much
- 16:51Speaker 2: drive to get this stuff done. And I do have
- 16:56Speaker 2: a drive to do those things, but I serve certainly
- 17:00Speaker 2: wasn't doing them in the US when I lived in
- 17:04Speaker 2: one place because I didn't have any free time to myself.
- 17:08Speaker 2: I liked the idea of doing things of hiking or traveling,
- 17:14Speaker 2: or as is more common, staying in bed watching movies
- 17:18Speaker 2: all day. But while I was living and working in
- 17:21Speaker 2: the US, I didn't have the luxury of thinking of
- 17:26Speaker 2: anything I really wanted to do outside of meet some
- 17:29Speaker 2: friends a couple blocks away from my house, because I
- 17:32Speaker 2: knew I had to work soon, sometime soon, and I
- 17:36Speaker 2: couldn't risk not being there for that next shift in
- 17:41Speaker 2: even if it was two days off, I couldn't. I
- 17:45Speaker 2: couldn't make a decision to do anything that would have
- 17:49Speaker 2: a risk of me not being in that same physical
- 17:53Speaker 2: location in forty eight hours, because the risk of not
- 17:58Speaker 2: having that terrible job for forty hours a week meant
- 18:03Speaker 2: my tenuous grip on civilized life would collapse entirely if
- 18:08Speaker 2: I was fired in the US, Who knows when I
- 18:10Speaker 2: can find another, even crappy service job that I have
- 18:14Speaker 2: to sacrifice so much of my time for to pay
- 18:17Speaker 2: for my apartment and pay for my electric bill and
- 18:20Speaker 2: other utilities, and pay for my homeowner insurance and pay
- 18:24Speaker 2: for my whatever insurances cars. So even if you have
- 18:29Speaker 2: a couple days off, it's just not Even if I
- 18:31Speaker 2: have a couple of days off, it was not enough
- 18:33Speaker 2: time for me to think very broadly about what I
- 18:39Speaker 2: really wanted to do, because it was all constricted by yeah,
- 18:42Speaker 2: but then in twelve hours, yeah, but then in thirty
- 18:45Speaker 2: six hours, I have to be back here again and
- 18:48Speaker 2: ready to go through the grind, and as soon as
- 18:51Speaker 2: I start teaching English abroad, I instantly cut my work
- 18:54Speaker 2: hours and a half and I had twice as much
- 18:58Speaker 2: free time, more than twice as much free time time
- 19:00Speaker 2: to think about, Wait, what am I doing? Why am
- 19:04Speaker 2: I working? What do I really want to do with
- 19:08Speaker 2: my free time? And it became something I could finally
- 19:12Speaker 2: think about because I finally had some free time, and
- 19:16Speaker 2: I finally had much much more free time, and there
- 19:19Speaker 2: were not as many financial burdens to consider because China
- 19:25Speaker 2: is such a low cost of living, is one of
- 19:27Speaker 2: the half of the world that is a very low
- 19:29Speaker 2: cost of living country compared to the US ninety percent
- 19:33Speaker 2: cheaper easily. So I had savings after the first month,
- 19:37Speaker 2: probably I'll say the second month, because the first month
- 19:39Speaker 2: I did buy a laptop, and I did buy an
- 19:41Speaker 2: electric scooter, and I got all the stuff that I
- 19:44Speaker 2: needed to for fun. But then by the second month,
- 19:48Speaker 2: I was already saving money because I was only spending
- 19:51Speaker 2: a few hundred a month, let's say five hundred tops
- 19:55Speaker 2: to be there, and I was getting twenty five hundred
- 19:58Speaker 2: a month, so I was saving a couple grand a
- 19:59Speaker 2: month month. The second Yeah, by the second month, I
- 20:03Speaker 2: was in Beijing. I wasn't as good with saving money then,
- 20:07Speaker 2: but in such a low cost of living country, I
- 20:10Speaker 2: couldn't not save a large part of my paycheck every month,
- 20:14Speaker 2: and that was again just a practical matter. Because I
- 20:16Speaker 2: was living in Beijing, I didn't need to use that money,
- 20:19Speaker 2: and so instead of burning it and setting it on fire,
- 20:23Speaker 2: I just put it on my bank account. I didn't
- 20:26Speaker 2: consider passive income for several years, but simply by living
- 20:31Speaker 2: in a low cost of living country, which is most
- 20:33Speaker 2: of the world, I was able to at least start
- 20:37Speaker 2: saving money, which was impossible for me back in the
- 20:41Speaker 2: States for several years. I would have had to until
- 20:44Speaker 2: I could become a store manager of whatever, or I
- 20:48Speaker 2: was putting a way what was left of my paycheck
- 20:51Speaker 2: in the States, but that was one hundred dollars instead
- 20:54Speaker 2: of fifteen hundred dollars or two thousand dollars. So in
- 20:57Speaker 2: one month I was saving more by living in a
- 21:01Speaker 2: low cost of living country than I would have saved
- 21:03Speaker 2: in over a year living in the States and saving
- 21:07Speaker 2: as much money as I could. And I was living
- 21:09Speaker 2: a way more comfortable and convenient life while teaching English
- 21:13Speaker 2: in China than I ever did in the US. So
- 21:16Speaker 2: it's really not a gung ho travel attitude at all.
- 21:22Speaker 2: It is a very practical decision for me to travel.
- 21:29Speaker 2: I'm not an adrenaline junkie. I like doing exciting things,
- 21:33Speaker 2: but not all the time. I don't have the drive
- 21:36Speaker 2: to own a private jet. When I can just instantly
- 21:43Speaker 2: fly from one country to another for one hundred bucks,
- 21:47Speaker 2: there's not the thinking of doing any more work where
- 21:53Speaker 2: I would have to pay or to fly first class,
- 21:56Speaker 2: let's say, instead of flying economy all the time. That
- 21:59Speaker 2: doesn't seem worth it to me at all. I guess
- 22:03Speaker 2: if I found a practical way that saves me time
- 22:09Speaker 2: and money to be in first class all the time
- 22:11Speaker 2: rather than economy, I would. The seats are bigger, they
- 22:16Speaker 2: have unlimited alcoholic drinks in first class, but they're paying
- 22:21Speaker 2: like five hundred one thousand more per flight, except a
- 22:26Speaker 2: lot of them are on business expense, of course, but
- 22:29Speaker 2: we're all going to the same place. It's taken us
- 22:31Speaker 2: the exact same amount of time to get there. And
- 22:35Speaker 2: I paid fifty bucks to get to the next country
- 22:38Speaker 2: or whatever, and they paid seven hundred fifty dollars. I
- 22:41Speaker 2: remember when I was young. That's that's when this practical outlook,
- 22:47Speaker 2: that's this is what I think of. This might be
- 22:50Speaker 2: the seminal moment of when life became a practical matter
- 22:55Speaker 2: for me, but it never stopped. This perspective on life
- 23:00Speaker 2: persisted after this. I'm not sure how young exactly I was,
- 23:05Speaker 2: but it was pretty young. It was like ten years old,
- 23:08Speaker 2: i'd say, when I found out like exactly what death
- 23:13Speaker 2: is or understood it in a new way, like exactly
- 23:17Speaker 2: how permanent it was. But eventually I did understand that
- 23:22Speaker 2: I would die too, and all beings die. And because
- 23:27Speaker 2: of that when I realized that really about death. And
- 23:31Speaker 2: I have no idea if I was five or ten
- 23:32Speaker 2: or whatever it actually was, what age, But I spent
- 23:36Speaker 2: at least months, and on and off were ever after that,
- 23:40Speaker 2: But for months at a time, I would go to
- 23:43Speaker 2: bed and then I would look up in bed as
- 23:45Speaker 2: soon as I was as soon as the lights were off,
- 23:47Speaker 2: I was thinking about, well, gonna die someday.
- 23:50Speaker 1: And I was aware.
- 23:51Speaker 2: I was like, you're eight years old now, but eventually
- 23:55Speaker 2: you will die because everyone dies, as it had been
- 23:59Speaker 2: explained to me. So then what am I doing? And
- 24:02Speaker 2: I went through in existential crisis. I guess people would
- 24:06Speaker 2: call it now, but I was just thinking about it,
- 24:09Speaker 2: like what does that mean for me? If life will
- 24:12Speaker 2: be over one day? And I don't think I came
- 24:16Speaker 2: to any conclusions as many months as I as many
- 24:20Speaker 2: nights over the initial months that I thought about this.
- 24:22Speaker 2: I might I must have thought about it more than
- 24:24Speaker 2: a hundred times that first period of time, because every
- 24:29Speaker 2: night I would lie awake for until I went to bed,
- 24:32Speaker 2: just thinking like, Okay, so we're all going to die someday,
- 24:36Speaker 2: and I'm part of everyone, so I will die someday
- 24:41Speaker 2: and that's important, but I don't know why exactly, And
- 24:45Speaker 2: then I would be like, is it importantcause I'm going
- 24:48Speaker 2: to die? And I just go in circles in my head.
- 24:51Speaker 2: But I still remember all those nights as a kid
- 24:53Speaker 2: thinking about that, and I cannot help but think that
- 24:56Speaker 2: somehow contributed to my practical outlook on li life, because
- 25:01Speaker 2: I don't ever want to wait to do something or
- 25:05Speaker 2: put something off. I would like to if I have
- 25:08Speaker 2: something I want to do, I would like to do
- 25:11Speaker 2: that asap. I'd like to do that as soon as possible.
- 25:15Speaker 2: And I was aware that the hourglass was dripping sand away.
- 25:18Speaker 2: I watched Fantasy movies with heavy metaphors and allegory. And
- 25:25Speaker 2: I realized after I had this like thinking about how
- 25:31Speaker 2: everybody eventually dies period of my life, how much of
- 25:37Speaker 2: the world was about that, How how many stories were
- 25:41Speaker 2: about the time ticking away? And even if that wasn't
- 25:44Speaker 2: like the direct plot that like your life will expire
- 25:47Speaker 2: in seventy two hours or three years, it time time
- 25:52Speaker 2: was still such an important part of life. And then
- 25:54Speaker 2: I would read articles in magazines of old people and
- 25:59Speaker 2: they'd be like, what are you think think about life?
- 26:01Speaker 2: And old people would say time is the most important thing.
- 26:04Speaker 2: We only have one life to live. I wish I
- 26:07Speaker 2: had done more with the time I was given, and
- 26:11Speaker 2: very often was the sentiment, I don't regret the things
- 26:14Speaker 2: I did, only the things I did not do. So
- 26:16Speaker 2: I guess what I'm saying is from that five whatever
- 26:20Speaker 2: that period was, five years old, ten years old, however
- 26:22Speaker 2: old I was when I went through this first, lying
- 26:23Speaker 2: awake every night thinking about how I had a finite
- 26:26Speaker 2: amount of time in practical matters, I came to the
- 26:31Speaker 2: conclusion yolo, as it has become known as, which is
- 26:35Speaker 2: such a dumb phrase but so incredibly accurate, because you
- 26:41Speaker 2: really only do live once. You really only get one life,
- 26:46Speaker 2: and that's less of a reason to jump off a
- 26:49Speaker 2: cliff and scream yolo and get hurt on the coral below.
- 26:53Speaker 1: But it's very good. Memento moriy.
- 26:57Speaker 2: Remember death is basically yolo, which I thought was really
- 27:02Speaker 2: funny after I realized the phrase. The import of yolo
- 27:08Speaker 2: momento Maury. Philosophy of death by monks and philosophers been
- 27:14Speaker 2: around forever. Memento Maury. It's like the classic Latin phrase
- 27:19Speaker 2: or Stoics phrase. I guess you have to remember death
- 27:24Speaker 2: because at any moment, your life will be over. Yes,
- 27:26Speaker 2: you have life now, there's no guarantee you will have
- 27:30Speaker 2: life after now, after this moment that you currently are experiencing.
- 27:35Speaker 2: And that doesn't mean you have to go scramble and
- 27:37Speaker 2: rush to do everything immediately, but you should. If there's
- 27:42Speaker 2: something you want to do, you should start making your
- 27:44Speaker 2: way toward that now, because tomorrow is not guaranteed. Memento Mori,
- 27:49Speaker 2: remember death, Remember that life is finite. I don't think
- 27:54Speaker 2: remember death is the best way to say it, because
- 27:57Speaker 2: that lends itself to like, well, then what who cares?
- 28:01Speaker 2: Because death is inevitable anyway? So what am I even
- 28:04Speaker 2: doing anything for I think life is finite is probably
- 28:09Speaker 2: a better way to think about it. Or ironically, Yolo
- 28:15Speaker 2: makes more sense these days because it focuses on the
- 28:18Speaker 2: positive experience currently, it focuses on life. It says, don't
- 28:24Speaker 2: remember what comes outside of life, don't memento more. You
- 28:27Speaker 2: don't remember death, but remember life. Remember the fact that
- 28:32Speaker 2: you have a finite amount of time right now that
- 28:35Speaker 2: if you're listening to this podcast, that is what you have. Now.
- 28:40Speaker 1: What's life?
- 28:41Speaker 2: Vivo, so memento vivo no aqua viti the water of life,
- 28:45Speaker 2: So it's vti, so memento viti. Remember to live. It's
- 28:51Speaker 2: so easy to get stuck in a routine and to
- 28:54Speaker 2: get distracted by things that our body's experiencing. It's so
- 28:59Speaker 2: hot today, so cold today. I'm so tired right now,
- 29:03Speaker 2: there's not enough time before I have to get back
- 29:05Speaker 2: to work. And all of those things are true. But
- 29:08Speaker 2: what is also true is that your life is finite.
- 29:12Speaker 2: My life is finite. And those months of thinking about
- 29:16Speaker 2: it as a kid, yeah, really shaped the practical way
- 29:20Speaker 2: in which I view life.
- 29:21Speaker 1: I assume it. They must.
- 29:22Speaker 2: I don't have a direct line to point to, like
- 29:26Speaker 2: I said, it's much easier to prove the financial ease
- 29:29Speaker 2: of this, but I do memento viti. I remember life constantly.
- 29:35Speaker 2: I'm always I'm very aware of the fact that I'm
- 29:39Speaker 2: alive at this moment and the fact that I may
- 29:41Speaker 2: not be later, And this is the life I have
- 29:44Speaker 2: right now, and it's the only one I get. Every day,
- 29:48Speaker 2: I'm every day is a day that I won't get
- 29:52Speaker 2: back after I have used that day, so I should
- 29:55Speaker 2: probably use that day for what I want to do.
- 29:59Speaker 2: And this doesn't justify hurting others or exploiting anything or
- 30:02Speaker 2: doing anything harmful. But every time I don't take advantage
- 30:07Speaker 2: of an opportunity, things are different. Even if I have
- 30:10Speaker 2: the same opportunity again the next time, even if I
- 30:13Speaker 2: have a second shot at something, there was no guarantee
- 30:17Speaker 2: that second shot was going to come. So I tried
- 30:20Speaker 2: to be aware of opportunities around me the first time,
- 30:24Speaker 2: and I try especially to live life well to be
- 30:27Speaker 2: a positive influence, because again, I'm so aware momento vtime.
- 30:32Speaker 2: I'm very aware that this is the life I'm living,
- 30:35Speaker 2: the single life, and the current moment is the only
- 30:40Speaker 2: moment I really have. All the past moments are gone, already,
- 30:44Speaker 2: and all the future moments haven't arrived it I have now,
- 30:47Speaker 2: And I grew up in the States, So when I
- 30:51Speaker 2: was growing up it was again as a child, I
- 30:55Speaker 2: thought about all this stuff, even though I could not
- 30:58Speaker 2: articulate it very well. But something always wrong, wrong, false
- 31:04Speaker 2: when grown ups told me how terrible their day was.
- 31:10Speaker 2: But that's just how it goes. But that's just what
- 31:14Speaker 2: you have to do. But that's just the grind. The
- 31:18Speaker 2: grind never sounded correct to me. Because I knew how
- 31:22Speaker 2: big the world was. I at least understood the world
- 31:25Speaker 2: was so big. I didn't understand it at all at
- 31:28Speaker 2: ten years old, and I had read again all these
- 31:31Speaker 2: articles in Time magazine or whatever magazines were lying around
- 31:34Speaker 2: the house, and a billion novels as a child, And
- 31:39Speaker 2: even in the novels, I was like, look at how
- 31:41Speaker 2: differently people are living. Even though this story isn't real.
- 31:44Speaker 2: The philosophy by which this person is living is not
- 31:48Speaker 2: the same philosophy by which the people in real life
- 31:51Speaker 2: around me are living. They view life differently. And I
- 31:56Speaker 2: wasn't reading philosophers. I was reading science fiction. The Mote
- 32:01Speaker 2: in God's Eye and Mercedes Lackey, The Black Griffin series.
- 32:07Speaker 2: But those characters, they looked at compassion differently, they looked
- 32:11Speaker 2: at time differently, they looked at relationships differently, and just
- 32:16Speaker 2: the fact that these characters were real to me in
- 32:19Speaker 2: the story, I met so many of these characters who
- 32:24Speaker 2: looked at life and lived life in a different way
- 32:27Speaker 2: that when I did meet a person in real life,
- 32:30Speaker 2: one of my parents' friends, who was different, who was
- 32:34Speaker 2: from a different country, or who clearly had different priorities
- 32:39Speaker 2: in life than my parents had, I said, ha, see, look,
- 32:43Speaker 2: there is a different way to live life. And I
- 32:46Speaker 2: kind of I kind of always had that like that,
- 32:50Speaker 2: that there is something beyond what my teachers were telling
- 32:55Speaker 2: me or my parents were telling me, what my entire
- 32:59Speaker 2: birth country was telling me, about the correct way to live,
- 33:02Speaker 2: sacrifice your own life for the profit of the boss
- 33:05Speaker 2: of the company you work for. College being a necessity,
- 33:10Speaker 2: and about you having to choose a career and then
- 33:14Speaker 2: move forward through that career until you got to the
- 33:18Speaker 2: pinnacle of that career. Which if that is the way
- 33:22Speaker 2: that you're going, If you go to medical school so
- 33:25Speaker 2: that you can become a doctor of surgery eventually, great, that's.
- 33:31Speaker 1: Your way to go.
- 33:33Speaker 2: But I felt like I was being told that's the
- 33:35Speaker 2: only way to go that you have to pick.
- 33:38Speaker 1: Okay, I'll be.
- 33:39Speaker 2: A lawyer, and then I'll go through school, and then
- 33:41Speaker 2: I'll become an intern, and then I'll become a whatever
- 33:44Speaker 2: it's called resident version of lawyer, and then a doctor
- 33:50Speaker 2: of lawyering, and I'll become.
- 33:52Speaker 1: A partner blah blah.
- 33:53Speaker 2: But you have to choose one career and then you
- 33:55Speaker 2: have to do that kind of stuff. And as long
- 33:58Speaker 2: as you follow the the tracks, and it'll take a
- 34:01Speaker 2: long time, it'll take decades of your life. But as
- 34:04Speaker 2: long as you stay on the track of that thing
- 34:06Speaker 2: that takes away decades of your life, at the end
- 34:09Speaker 2: you will get to retire. You will get to stop working.
- 34:15Speaker 2: So it's okay if you don't really like the job.
- 34:17Speaker 2: And in some ways that is true, like you don't
- 34:22Speaker 2: have to go to your dream job. Well, like when
- 34:24Speaker 2: I tell people to travel and I tell them, well,
- 34:26Speaker 2: become an English teacher. They're like, oh, I don't know,
- 34:29Speaker 2: I don't like teaching, or I don't know how good
- 34:31Speaker 2: I would be a teaching I tell them it doesn't.
- 34:33Speaker 1: Matter if you like it.
- 34:34Speaker 2: All you have to do is speak English and they'll
- 34:37Speaker 2: give you twenty to one hundred US dollars per hour.
- 34:40Speaker 2: It's that's the trade up right now for speaking English
- 34:44Speaker 2: in front of people who can't speak English. It's that's
- 34:47Speaker 2: that's what the rate is. But if you put all
- 34:49Speaker 2: of that into passive income, or you save up or
- 34:52Speaker 2: pay off your debt, then you're free to do whatever
- 34:54Speaker 2: you want, and you'll be able to do that very
- 34:56Speaker 2: quickly as an English teacher. So I completely understand that.
- 35:01Speaker 2: I don't think you need to get your perfect job
- 35:04Speaker 2: right away. If you know what it is, If you
- 35:06Speaker 2: know you definitely want to be a race car driver
- 35:10Speaker 2: and you somehow get on that path and become one,
- 35:13Speaker 2: that is great because you know exactly what you want
- 35:17Speaker 2: to do. But most of the people in my life,
- 35:20Speaker 2: most of the people in my class growing up, elementary school,
- 35:22Speaker 2: middle school, high school, most of the people in university
- 35:25Speaker 2: I knew, and then all of the adults around me,
- 35:30Speaker 2: my parents and their friends, and any teachers or after
- 35:34Speaker 2: school babysitters what are they called child care or people
- 35:40Speaker 2: who look after the kids after school, any of that
- 35:43Speaker 2: kind of stuff, or coaches, any adult figure it. Whenever
- 35:49Speaker 2: I glanced off these topics with them, like and you
- 35:52Speaker 2: knew you always wanted to be a basketball coach for
- 35:55Speaker 2: fifth grade boys. I could just feel them being like, well, no,
- 36:02Speaker 2: of course not. And I was like, Okay, that's an
- 36:05Speaker 2: important data point for me, because this is the you know,
- 36:08Speaker 2: you're in the ninety percent of people I know who
- 36:12Speaker 2: did not plan on becoming what they became. Teachers thought
- 36:17Speaker 2: the same thing, and engineers thought the same thing, and
- 36:21Speaker 2: computer programmers thought the same thing. Every adult I talked
- 36:25Speaker 2: to was like, Nope, but look where I ended up
- 36:27Speaker 2: here I am. And that also had me thinking like, okay,
- 36:31Speaker 2: so in practice, most people don't even end up where
- 36:34Speaker 2: they think they're going. And then I read that there's
- 36:38Speaker 2: a bunch of articles on like, people who pursue majors
- 36:41Speaker 2: in college don't end up as a professional in the career.
- 36:46Speaker 2: In the career based on that major. Like most engineering,
- 36:51Speaker 2: it was something like seventy five percent of college majors
- 36:54Speaker 2: don't end up in the field that they were pursuing
- 36:58Speaker 2: after they get their degree. There was some large percentage
- 37:01Speaker 2: of people, and that was just another building block from
- 37:04Speaker 2: my understanding of how the world worked. So whenever an
- 37:10Speaker 2: adult by the time I was a teenager, whenever an
- 37:12Speaker 2: adult told me about the necessity of the grind. I
- 37:17Speaker 2: was just like, Okay, that's definitely wrong, because most people
- 37:21Speaker 2: don't even plan to get where they're going. It seems
- 37:24Speaker 2: like to me the grind was the last resort instead
- 37:29Speaker 2: of the first choice. But I was being told constantly
- 37:33Speaker 2: and still am that the grind is how you get
- 37:37Speaker 2: through life, that you grind out your life, that you
- 37:41Speaker 2: go through the grinder and you trade away years of
- 37:44Speaker 2: your life and then you get a little thing out
- 37:47Speaker 2: of the grinder and you get a little bit back.
- 37:49Speaker 2: But I just kept reading articles, I kept talking to people,
- 37:52Speaker 2: and every now and then it would just bounce off
- 37:54Speaker 2: me again that there are other choices, that there are
- 37:57Speaker 2: other ways to live life. When I had a sneaking
- 38:00Speaker 2: suspicion that I could figure out one of those other ways,
- 38:03Speaker 2: even if it hadn't been explained to me or it
- 38:05Speaker 2: wasn't presented under a spotlight, just by virtue that I
- 38:11Speaker 2: was certain now that other ways of living existed, I
- 38:14Speaker 2: could probably find a way of living that was better,
- 38:17Speaker 2: at least for me. That whatever the majority of people
- 38:22Speaker 2: are telling me in the States that choosing a career
- 38:25Speaker 2: path is the way to success, it just can't be true,
- 38:29Speaker 2: because there are college dropouts who became happy, sometimes rich
- 38:35Speaker 2: and successful, and there are people climbing trees and eating
- 38:40Speaker 2: honey from beehives in other countries who are living. They're alive,
- 38:45Speaker 2: they're living as long as my parents had, and they
- 38:49Speaker 2: never worked a day in their life. I mean in
- 38:52Speaker 2: a corporate job. They went and got honey from the bees,
- 38:56Speaker 2: and they harvested plants the rest of the days and
- 38:59Speaker 2: ate them. So empirically, whenever someone in the US told
- 39:02Speaker 2: me this is how you live life, in my head,
- 39:06Speaker 2: I would say, no, no, this is how you live life.
- 39:08Speaker 2: But definitely all the other people, everybody else, even in
- 39:12Speaker 2: this country, are living a different version of what you
- 39:16Speaker 2: think is the only version of how to live life.
- 39:20Speaker 2: And at the time, there was a little under seven
- 39:22Speaker 2: billion people when I was younger on the planet, which
- 39:26Speaker 2: meant to me that means there are seven billion different
- 39:30Speaker 2: ways to live life happening simultaneously. And so even knowing
- 39:36Speaker 2: that and thinking about it for so long, probably about
- 39:39Speaker 2: twenty years, I couldn't figure out away myself, or at
- 39:43Speaker 2: least until I was, you know, an adult living on
- 39:47Speaker 2: my own. So until I was twenty two, when I.
- 39:50Speaker 1: Got out of college.
- 39:51Speaker 2: So even if I was thinking that from five years old,
- 39:53Speaker 2: for seventeen years, I still couldn't figure out a way
- 39:56Speaker 2: to not follow the path that so so many other
- 40:01Speaker 2: US Americans were following and people around the world do
- 40:04Speaker 2: follow to go to college and choose a major and
- 40:09Speaker 2: follow then try and get a job, and then try
- 40:13Speaker 2: and get a higher position in that job. It was
- 40:16Speaker 2: still difficult for me to figure out, even though I
- 40:20Speaker 2: was as certain as I was of anything by the
- 40:23Speaker 2: time I was living on my own, that there were
- 40:25Speaker 2: other ways to live life. I just didn't understand how
- 40:29Speaker 2: I could access those different ways without changing everything. And
- 40:36Speaker 2: that was that was the thing that finally happened, because
- 40:40Speaker 2: with one decision deciding to go to China, I did
- 40:44Speaker 2: change everything, or to take myself out of it. Everything changed.
- 40:48Speaker 2: I just didn't realize how easy changing everything actually was,
- 40:53Speaker 2: like how simple the process could actually be. A flight
- 40:57Speaker 2: and then everything was different, plane ride later, one day later.
- 41:02Speaker 2: The job landscape is different, the costs of living are different.
- 41:06Speaker 2: Everything was different, but it was very simple to access.
- 41:11Speaker 2: You can go back to the How I got started
- 41:14Speaker 2: episode and get this story. But I found an ad
- 41:19Speaker 2: in Craigslist, actually in the wrong part of Craigslist, and
- 41:22Speaker 2: I responded to it because it was about becoming an
- 41:24Speaker 2: English teacher in Beijing.
- 41:26Speaker 1: And whatever felt right about that job.
- 41:31Speaker 2: Was insignificant in comparison to how wrong my life felt
- 41:36Speaker 2: living in the US, not barely making enough money like
- 41:41Speaker 2: I had done the math, so I could make just
- 41:44Speaker 2: enough money to pay for my apartment every month, but
- 41:45Speaker 2: I wasn't making any savings, and I wasn't going to
- 41:49Speaker 2: visit these places that people in magazines visited that National
- 41:56Speaker 2: Geographic wrote about this is the town with the most
- 42:00Speaker 2: strainfall in the world. I was like, well, I'll never
- 42:02Speaker 2: be able to get there at this rate by what
- 42:05Speaker 2: I am doing. So whatever I am doing is incorrect
- 42:10Speaker 2: because I'm not I don't have access to the world
- 42:12Speaker 2: that other people do. And when I would ask adults
- 42:16Speaker 2: around me or people older than me, they would say, yeah,
- 42:20Speaker 2: but if you save, then every year you can go
- 42:23Speaker 2: on a one week trip somewhere, and I was like,
- 42:27Speaker 2: that sucks. That can't be the correct that can't be
- 42:30Speaker 2: the only way to see the world. Trading fifty one
- 42:34Speaker 2: weeks for one week for time to myself and that's
- 42:38Speaker 2: all of my savings for the whole year, plus I've
- 42:41Speaker 2: have a family. I'm gonna have to pay for all
- 42:43Speaker 2: of that also, and we're all still doing the same thing,
- 42:47Speaker 2: trading all of our time for this one meager respite.
- 42:51Speaker 2: So I knew what the English job was off. English
- 42:55Speaker 2: teaching job was offering more time, more money, and that
- 43:00Speaker 2: all sounded nice, but much more than the proposed benefits.
- 43:04Speaker 2: That I didn't have any tangible evidence where I wasn't
- 43:08Speaker 2: in China yet, I didn't know if the job was real,
- 43:12Speaker 2: even though I knew people went to teach English in
- 43:14Speaker 2: other countries. Intellectually, I didn't know that what I was
- 43:19Speaker 2: doing was incorrect. And I mean, by twenty five, the
- 43:24Speaker 2: time I left the US, all of my friends had
- 43:28Speaker 2: already signed up for that life.
- 43:31Speaker 1: They were all like, yeah, but I'll probably be.
- 43:34Speaker 2: Manager soon or assistant manager soon, or yeah, I'm gonna
- 43:38Speaker 2: get my tax refund soon, so then I'll be able
- 43:40Speaker 2: to pay for this knee surgery, or more often, I'll
- 43:46Speaker 2: be able to sign this lease for a car for
- 43:48Speaker 2: five years. They were making these bargains that I was
- 43:54Speaker 2: also making and had a huge problem with. But all
- 43:58Speaker 2: of the people older than me, and all of my
- 44:00Speaker 2: friends and everyone I knew at my age had come
- 44:03Speaker 2: to that conclusion that this is a fair deal, that
- 44:07Speaker 2: I will trade fifty weeks of my life each year
- 44:10Speaker 2: and I will keep two weeks of my life each
- 44:14Speaker 2: year to myself. That's how life is. And I never
- 44:18Speaker 2: accepted that bargain, even though after I started living on
- 44:22Speaker 2: my own, I did it for a few years. I
- 44:25Speaker 2: did it from twenty two to twenty five. I traded
- 44:29Speaker 2: most of the year for just a little bit of
- 44:32Speaker 2: time to myself and a tiny bit of extra money
- 44:37Speaker 2: to myself. So maybe it took the four years of
- 44:41Speaker 2: grinding for me to get there and understand that this
- 44:45Speaker 2: thing I was looking at, this incorrectly placed to add
- 44:47Speaker 2: in Craigslist, was an opportunity. Was an opportunity, is the
- 44:52Speaker 2: perfect way to say it. Yeah, And so I said yes,
- 44:55Speaker 2: and then I went there, and then one day to
- 44:58Speaker 2: the next I went from fourty hours a week to
- 45:02Speaker 2: fifteen hours a week. But I went from one month
- 45:07Speaker 2: of pay in the United States paying for one month
- 45:10Speaker 2: of rent, to one month of pay in China, a
- 45:15Speaker 2: single paycheck covering two years of rent living in China.
- 45:20Speaker 2: So every paycheck I got in China paid for twenty
- 45:23Speaker 2: four months roughly of rent in China. When I went
- 45:29Speaker 2: out with friends, instead of paying ten dollars for a meal,
- 45:33Speaker 2: I was paying one dollar to two dollars beer. Instead
- 45:37Speaker 2: of paying whatever a dollar for a can of beer,
- 45:41Speaker 2: I was paying a dollar twenty five for a gallon
- 45:44Speaker 2: of beer. Instead of paying the taxes I had paid
- 45:48Speaker 2: for the first four years, I was paying zero in taxes.
- 45:51Speaker 2: Because the fie IRS Form two five to F five,
- 45:54Speaker 2: I was outside of the country for more than three
- 45:56Speaker 2: hundred and thirty days of the year, I didn't have
- 45:58Speaker 2: to pay earned income taxes. And because I was working
- 46:01Speaker 2: for a company that is earned earned income, so I
- 46:04Speaker 2: wasn't paying taxes on that. I'm probably still in that
- 46:08Speaker 2: paradigm shift moment. Because everything made more. I was like,
- 46:13Speaker 2: if this is an option versus what everybody was telling
- 46:17Speaker 2: me back in the States, and what everybody has agreed
- 46:20Speaker 2: to the devil's bargain in the States, where you trade
- 46:23Speaker 2: fifty one weeks of your life or fifty weeks of
- 46:25Speaker 2: your life and you get one or two weeks. The
- 46:28Speaker 2: first week I landed in Beijing and started teaching, especially
- 46:32Speaker 2: the first time I got my paycheck for working less
- 46:38Speaker 2: than half the hours I was working in the States
- 46:41Speaker 2: and being able to cover two years of rent. I thought, well,
- 46:45Speaker 2: this is the better choice. This is the more practical
- 46:47Speaker 2: choice for me. Certainly, I would much rather simply by
- 46:51Speaker 2: virtue of being in another place. I don't have to
- 46:55Speaker 2: work as much, and I'm saving way more money. And
- 46:59Speaker 2: I got all the rest of the week to have
- 47:01Speaker 2: so much time to myself to investigate what else I
- 47:04Speaker 2: like about life. I have time most nights now to
- 47:09Speaker 2: go on a date and the money to pay for
- 47:12Speaker 2: the date. I can buy a bicycle and ride it
- 47:16Speaker 2: for twenty four hours to the closest crazy mountain, and
- 47:19Speaker 2: I can go climb that. And I can visit this
- 47:24Speaker 2: famous river and have barbecue with my friends around it.
- 47:27Speaker 2: We can grill sausages and show cow all day. Because
- 47:32Speaker 2: I had so much free time, I had so much
- 47:34Speaker 2: extra time back simply by being in a different physical location,
- 47:38Speaker 2: a different part of the Earth's geography. It had nothing
- 47:42Speaker 2: to do with being Ah gung ho. I can push
- 47:44Speaker 2: through this. I can become an adventure abroad. I was like, Nope,
- 47:48Speaker 2: that's a way better deal. It was a practical decision.
- 47:52Speaker 2: This the conditions, the terms and conditions here are way
- 47:56Speaker 2: better than the terms and conditions of living and especially
- 47:59Speaker 2: of working in the States, and my relationship with work
- 48:03Speaker 2: is completely different, and I'm still living in that completely
- 48:06Speaker 2: different world because I don't know if that was right.
- 48:09Speaker 2: I'm not sure if living there and teaching English was,
- 48:13Speaker 2: you know, my perfect choice. But when I got there,
- 48:16Speaker 2: I certainly knew, well, this feels better than how I
- 48:20Speaker 2: felt back in the States. This definitely feels more correct.
- 48:24Speaker 2: I'm trading whatever, let's say half that I'm trading twenty
- 48:28Speaker 2: weeks a year, and I get thirty two weeks of
- 48:32Speaker 2: the year to myself instead of trading fifty weeks and
- 48:35Speaker 2: getting two weeks back. I'm only trading twenty weeks and
- 48:39Speaker 2: I get thirty two weeks to myself a year. That's
- 48:42Speaker 2: a much better deal. And for me it still is
- 48:45Speaker 2: a better deal. It really boils down to that practical
- 48:51Speaker 2: transaction of getting my time back for myself. And that's
- 48:54Speaker 2: why I eventually quit, because working I I was still
- 49:01Speaker 2: even training twenty weeks and getting thirty two weeks back. Hey,
- 49:04Speaker 2: I already improved this equation. Maybe I can continue improving it.
- 49:09Speaker 2: I just kept chipping away at that and I would
- 49:11Speaker 2: try to get more passive income, and it was only
- 49:15Speaker 2: three hundred US dollars roughly a month of passive income
- 49:19Speaker 2: when I started traveling. But those three hundred usd and
- 49:25Speaker 2: actually some of that was active ESL teaching on the
- 49:28Speaker 2: phone also, like one hundred dollars of that, so really
- 49:31Speaker 2: it was only two hundred dollars, but total three hundred
- 49:34Speaker 2: dollars of income, and that one hundred from the active
- 49:37Speaker 2: ESL teaching on the phone was only five hours a
- 49:41Speaker 2: week or let's say ten hours I guess a month, sorry,
- 49:46Speaker 2: ten hours a month, so two and a half hours
- 49:48Speaker 2: a week. So yeah, one hundred and twenty hours a year,
- 49:54Speaker 2: plus my two hundred dollars a month coming up from
- 49:56Speaker 2: passive income for three hundred between three four hundred per
- 50:00Speaker 2: month total income coming in, that's three weeks three standard
- 50:06Speaker 2: forty hour work week, right, Yeah, one hundred and twenty
- 50:08Speaker 2: hours per year. Ten hours per month of active work
- 50:13Speaker 2: is three weeks of forty hour weeks. So now I
- 50:17Speaker 2: was trading three weeks per year and I was getting
- 50:21Speaker 2: forty nine weeks back. And I wasn't living in private
- 50:23Speaker 2: housing at the time. I was living in hostels because
- 50:26Speaker 2: hostels are only one hundred dollars per month in Thailand
- 50:30Speaker 2: and Cambodia and cheaper countries. There's still only one hundred
- 50:35Speaker 2: dollars a month in Cambodia, by the way, I check
- 50:39Speaker 2: that all the time. Because they were nice hostiles. You
- 50:42Speaker 2: get air conditioning and hotch hours, and there's a pool
- 50:45Speaker 2: and a bar downstairs where you get a bucket of
- 50:48Speaker 2: Margarita's for five dollars. But that's how this practical transaction
- 50:54Speaker 2: kept happening. It was never about how gung ho. I
- 50:59Speaker 2: was about how much I love travel, and I would
- 51:01Speaker 2: sacrifice anything to travel. My point was the Memento v time.
- 51:06Speaker 2: My goal was living the life I had, and I
- 51:11Speaker 2: couldn't live the life I had if I was trading
- 51:13Speaker 2: fifty weeks a year of my life for two weeks
- 51:16Speaker 2: to myself, and then when I was teaching English, I
- 51:20Speaker 2: didn't even want to trade the twenty weeks I had
- 51:24Speaker 2: for the thirty two weeks to myself. That's a great deal.
- 51:26Speaker 2: I still like it. I think that's great if you
- 51:29Speaker 2: can do that. But I was like, well, if I've
- 51:33Speaker 2: if I've leveraged my transaction this much already and I'm
- 51:37Speaker 2: working twenty I've already I'm already working thirty weeks less
- 51:41Speaker 2: than I was before. Can I get that further? And
- 51:44Speaker 2: then when I had my own school, I was probably
- 51:47Speaker 2: down to less than that. I was probably i'll say
- 51:51Speaker 2: fifteen weeks because my own school, I was making as
- 51:55Speaker 2: much as I was making working for the other school.
- 51:58Speaker 2: But I made that much in about half the time.
- 52:03Speaker 2: But we'll say ten hours a week, but I only
- 52:07Speaker 2: worked ten hours a week. I didn't do any of
- 52:11Speaker 2: the other stuff because it was my own school, so
- 52:13Speaker 2: I was running it very efficiently. So that's what forty
- 52:17Speaker 2: hours a month, and twelve of those so twelve weeks,
- 52:20Speaker 2: So I was Now I went from fifty weeks for
- 52:24Speaker 2: two weeks to myself in the States to twenty twenty
- 52:28Speaker 2: five weeks given to the company when I was in
- 52:32Speaker 2: China working for another school, and I got my thirty
- 52:36Speaker 2: weeks back, thirty two weeks back. And then when I
- 52:39Speaker 2: owned my own school, I gave them twelve weeks a year,
- 52:43Speaker 2: and I was getting forty weeks back. And then I
- 52:46Speaker 2: was bringing in that three hundred and fifty to four
- 52:48Speaker 2: hundred per month, and then teaching ESL online for those
- 52:54Speaker 2: three weeks a year of forty hour weeks one hundred
- 52:56Speaker 2: and twenty hours per year, so two and a half
- 52:59Speaker 2: hours per week. Now I was down to I give
- 53:03Speaker 2: them three work weeks and I get forty nine weeks
- 53:06Speaker 2: of time to myself. So I just kept trying to
- 53:09Speaker 2: improve that transaction and I got there. So now I'm
- 53:14Speaker 2: more than three weeks out of the year and I
- 53:17Speaker 2: get forty nine weeks to myself. But that's on a
- 53:20Speaker 2: stable level. I don't need more income. So every hundred
- 53:24Speaker 2: dollars I bring in that goes straight into passive income,
- 53:26Speaker 2: and that's bringing back from investments five percent, seven percent,
- 53:31Speaker 2: whatever that's coming back to me. And then just build
- 53:34Speaker 2: up passive income. Just keep putting money into the same
- 53:37Speaker 2: investments that are working, and then I'm at zero. Now
- 53:41Speaker 2: I have zero weeks that I actually have to work
- 53:44Speaker 2: to pay for the other weeks of the year, because
- 53:47Speaker 2: after after it becomes passive income, then it's truly passive income.
- 53:52Speaker 2: And I will still work and add money to that
- 53:57Speaker 2: passive income stream, but I don't have to do that.
- 54:03Speaker 2: I just work now and then because I have I'm
- 54:06Speaker 2: free all the time. So if I work for an hour,
- 54:09Speaker 2: I'll bring in a couple more dollars per year. Here
- 54:12Speaker 2: and there. So if I want to work an eight
- 54:15Speaker 2: hour day, I'll bring in another seven dollars per year.
- 54:19Speaker 2: And every time I do that, I bring in another
- 54:21Speaker 2: whatever per year in passive income. But once you hit
- 54:25Speaker 2: five hundred USD per year, you can live in most
- 54:28Speaker 2: of the world in a private apartment and have grocery.
- 54:31Speaker 2: You're set. I am set, So I don't mind investing
- 54:34Speaker 2: a little time here and there to build up the
- 54:37Speaker 2: passive income, because it's just to build up passive income.
- 54:41Speaker 2: It's just to I guess, improve the comfort of retirement
- 54:46Speaker 2: and prove the comfort of having all fifty two weeks
- 54:49Speaker 2: to myself. Before I needed to trade those fifty weeks
- 54:52Speaker 2: so I could get the two weeks to myself. I
- 54:55Speaker 2: needed to trade those twenty weeks so I could get
- 54:58Speaker 2: the thirty two weeks to myself. I needed to trade
- 55:00Speaker 2: to three weeks so I could get the forty nine
- 55:04Speaker 2: weeks to myself. But after that point, I had all
- 55:08Speaker 2: fifty two weeks to myself, and whenever I did teach
- 55:12Speaker 2: anything again or invest my time again, I just had
- 55:16Speaker 2: more resources with which to do stuff over those fifty
- 55:19Speaker 2: two weeks, okay, And now I have all the time
- 55:22Speaker 2: to myself, and I choose to spend that time living
- 55:25Speaker 2: for a few months here and there and going one
- 55:28Speaker 2: country to the next, and then go back to the original,
- 55:32Speaker 2: the original conundrum of when I get back to the
- 55:35Speaker 2: States or talk to someone from the States, and sometimes
- 55:39Speaker 2: even other travelers, pretty rarely, but sometimes even other travelers,
- 55:44Speaker 2: they would ask me why you must love traveling. You
- 55:46Speaker 2: must be so gung ho about it because I can
- 55:48Speaker 2: only get out here for two weeks or back in
- 55:51Speaker 2: the States. Like, Wow, You're sacrificing everything just so that
- 55:55Speaker 2: you can live in different countries. You must love that
- 56:00Speaker 2: hectic life. And I'm not sacrificing a thing. I'm receiving
- 56:06Speaker 2: so much more. I'm receiving everything in this transaction by
- 56:11Speaker 2: living in other countries, by living in these low cost
- 56:14Speaker 2: of living countries. I changed the equation by which I
- 56:18Speaker 2: grew up and was told I was supposed to live. Wow,
- 56:22Speaker 2: you must love adventure. You have such a gung ho
- 56:24Speaker 2: attitude about getting out there. And that's pretty funny, because
- 56:29Speaker 2: you know you can tell right now, I'm sitting alone
- 56:32Speaker 2: in my room talking into a microphone. This is not
- 56:36Speaker 2: a hectic pastime for me. This is a chill activity.
- 56:41Speaker 2: It is something I like to do. I like doing this,
- 56:44Speaker 2: I like sharing these experiences. I like ordering these events
- 56:48Speaker 2: of my life. I like recording the things that happen
- 56:52Speaker 2: in my life. And I like encouraging and inspiring people
- 56:55Speaker 2: to take more control of their own life. But it's
- 56:59Speaker 2: not exactly what most people would think of as adventurous.
- 57:02Speaker 2: This is what a lot of people do for a job,
- 57:05Speaker 2: sitting in a cubicle or a recording room, but I'm
- 57:09Speaker 2: not doing.
- 57:09Speaker 1: It as a job.
- 57:10Speaker 2: It's really a fun form of creative expression for me,
- 57:14Speaker 2: and I love hearing back from other people. And I
- 57:17Speaker 2: have a bunch of travel advice for people who write
- 57:21Speaker 2: in and talk to me. I don't know if I'll
- 57:24Speaker 2: be doing this forever, but right now, this is the
- 57:26Speaker 2: fun thing that I want to do, and this is
- 57:27Speaker 2: the most active thing I do. You have such a
- 57:30Speaker 2: gung ho adventure attitude. I am very often watching a
- 57:33Speaker 2: movie or TV show and eating snacks and drinking beer.
- 57:38Speaker 2: Or living in all those countries is so hectic, though,
- 57:41Speaker 2: I don't think I could do it, and I just
- 57:43Speaker 2: think back to lying in my bed for hours, scrolling
- 57:48Speaker 2: on my phone or playing video games. I'm just sitting
- 57:52Speaker 2: around looking at which restaurant near me looks the best
- 57:55Speaker 2: that day, the deadline for that activity being whenever I
- 57:59Speaker 2: eventually feel hungry, I get up and go choose one
- 58:02Speaker 2: of the dozens of amazing restaurants nearby to go. Try
- 58:06Speaker 2: reading or sleeping, just sleeping, just resting, relaxing. I do
- 58:13Speaker 2: cool things. I do, go to anchor what I do,
- 58:15Speaker 2: go snorkeling. I do have barbecue by the river, and
- 58:19Speaker 2: I climb mountains. But I don't pant and slaver at
- 58:25Speaker 2: the thought of completing every adventure I ever could. I'm
- 58:29Speaker 2: not like Okay, I gotta fill every single day with
- 58:32Speaker 2: a new train ride to a new location and a
- 58:34Speaker 2: new adventure.
- 58:35Speaker 1: Nope.
- 58:36Speaker 2: Throw me in a country i'm interested in, which is
- 58:38Speaker 2: pretty much most countries. Get myself a comfortable, affordable house
- 58:43Speaker 2: for a few months, look around, visit a place, rest
- 58:47Speaker 2: for several days, visit another place if I feel the urge,
- 58:50Speaker 2: rest some more. See what's up, see what's around those countries.
- 58:55Speaker 2: That has worked extremely well in finding out amazing things everywhere.
- 59:00Speaker 2: I didn't know ankor Wat was so close to cm Reep,
- 59:03Speaker 2: but it's really close, like a fifteen minute well, like
- 59:07Speaker 2: a thirty minute bike ride away from the city, so
- 59:09Speaker 2: you can just riunt a bicycle and go there. And
- 59:12Speaker 2: now I'll just runt a bicycle wherever I am and
- 59:14Speaker 2: go just ride a bicycle around. There's so many things
- 59:18Speaker 2: to see that even so often the locals don't realize
- 59:22Speaker 2: or right around the corner from them, that that I
- 59:26Speaker 2: can find since I have the extra time to ride
- 59:29Speaker 2: around a neighborhood or walk around a neighborhood all day
- 59:33Speaker 2: and just be like, Oh, look there's a sushi restaurant. Hey, look,
- 59:37Speaker 2: there's a new supermarket I haven't seen yet. There's a
- 59:41Speaker 2: giant outdoor market with four hundred vendors with products of
- 59:45Speaker 2: every and food of every shape and size that I
- 59:48Speaker 2: haven't explored. What is that mountain a mile away, I'll
- 59:52Speaker 2: go walk to it. I'll go walk to the top
- 59:54Speaker 2: of that mountain and see what I can see from there. Oh, look,
- 59:57Speaker 2: the remains of an ancient city that happened in Peru.
- 1:00:01Speaker 2: A lot I would I just started walking to mountains,
- 1:00:04Speaker 2: because every mountain I went to, there'd be the remains
- 1:00:07Speaker 2: of a wall of some burial site or food storage
- 1:00:13Speaker 2: kolkas or town like town village walls all over near Cusco,
- 1:00:20Speaker 2: so I just start walking to all the mountains I saw. Basically,
- 1:00:24Speaker 2: there's so many ruins in Cusco. It's wild, and you
- 1:00:28Speaker 2: don't have to pay to enter any of them. There's
- 1:00:30Speaker 2: the famous ones if there's a ticket for it, like
- 1:00:33Speaker 2: it's already famous, and you can go to those ones.
- 1:00:35Speaker 2: But if you're in Cusco, you just walk to any
- 1:00:37Speaker 2: of the mountains around there, and there are remains. Some
- 1:00:40Speaker 2: of them are as magnificent as these famous ones, like
- 1:00:43Speaker 2: Machu Pichu, and it's free. You can just walk there.
- 1:00:47Speaker 2: Because I couldn't believe how many legitimate, ancient ruins were
- 1:00:53Speaker 2: scattered all around Cusco that were never talked about. And
- 1:00:57Speaker 2: I just typed in ruins, literally, I typed in ruins
- 1:01:01Speaker 2: on my offline maps, and then I found one and
- 1:01:05Speaker 2: I walked to it. And that's what I would do
- 1:01:08Speaker 2: one day, and then the rest of the week I'd
- 1:01:10Speaker 2: be like, hey, look, you climbed a mountain. Let's watch
- 1:01:13Speaker 2: two seasons of Star Trek, or let's drop pictures, let's
- 1:01:18Speaker 2: write a story, let's sleep for a couple days. That
- 1:01:22Speaker 2: mountain was a lot of work. You should probably have
- 1:01:24Speaker 2: eight beers and a bunch of smoked ribs I have.
- 1:01:29Speaker 2: I'm interested in life, I'm interested in memento vita. I
- 1:01:32Speaker 2: want to remember that I am living right now, and
- 1:01:36Speaker 2: that is not a guaranteed state of existence, yo m lo.
- 1:01:46Speaker 2: But it's never had anything to do with an insatiable
- 1:01:50Speaker 2: need to experience to experience adrenaline all the time. I
- 1:01:55Speaker 2: don't need some crazy drive within myself. I just needed
- 1:02:01Speaker 2: more time to myself. That's what I wanted. I like traveling,
- 1:02:05Speaker 2: I like eating good food, I like meeting new people,
- 1:02:08Speaker 2: but it's not about an exciting, burning desire to experience
- 1:02:13Speaker 2: everything I can. Traveling has allowed me to comfortably live
- 1:02:19Speaker 2: life to the fullest as I understand it right now,
- 1:02:24Speaker 2: and as I mentioned, a lot of that is relaxing.
- 1:02:28Speaker 2: A lot of that is sitting around reading a book
- 1:02:31Speaker 2: and talking to my friends on chat, reading the news,
- 1:02:36Speaker 2: exercising veggin out. So you do have to change everything,
- 1:02:44Speaker 2: but that doesn't mean it's going to be more stressful.
- 1:02:49Speaker 2: Like for me, I changed everything by taking a plane
- 1:02:52Speaker 2: to China and starting to teach English. But instantly my
- 1:02:57Speaker 2: life was more rich and interesting and less stressful. When
- 1:03:04Speaker 2: people are like, oh, I can never go through all
- 1:03:06Speaker 2: the hassle of getting visas all the time. If you're
- 1:03:09Speaker 2: from the US, one hundred eighty countries are visa free
- 1:03:13Speaker 2: travel or visa on arrival, so nine out of ten
- 1:03:17Speaker 2: countries you don't have to get a visa anyway before
- 1:03:19Speaker 2: you buy your ticket before you land in the country. Actually,
- 1:03:23Speaker 2: and if you do want to go to one of
- 1:03:25Speaker 2: those visa countries, I always think, like, Okay, it takes
- 1:03:28Speaker 2: me fifteen minutes, maybe thirty minutes to fill out a
- 1:03:32Speaker 2: visa online. Versus if I was still living a sedentary
- 1:03:37Speaker 2: life and working for a company, that thirty minutes could
- 1:03:40Speaker 2: be a commute like one way to my job, and
- 1:03:44Speaker 2: I only have to do it for thirty minutes, and
- 1:03:46Speaker 2: I have ninety three days of residency there plus an
- 1:03:50Speaker 2: extra However, many if I want to extend the visa,
- 1:03:54Speaker 2: So if I was still part of the corporate system
- 1:03:55Speaker 2: in the US, I'd be training that thirty minutes for
- 1:03:58Speaker 2: getting to work and being in that I trade fifty weeks,
- 1:04:01Speaker 2: You give me two weeks to myself job. Versus, if
- 1:04:05Speaker 2: I trade thirty minutes of my life for a visa,
- 1:04:09Speaker 2: I get ninety three days at least of living comfortably
- 1:04:15Speaker 2: thirty minutes ninety days of living comfortably. And again nine
- 1:04:18Speaker 2: out of ten countries, US citizens don't even have to
- 1:04:21Speaker 2: fill out visas until they arrive in the country for
- 1:04:24Speaker 2: visa arrival. But like most of Central South America, most
- 1:04:28Speaker 2: of Asia, most of the world, you don't need a
- 1:04:30Speaker 2: visa at all, not even visa on arrival.
- 1:04:32Speaker 1: Just fly in.
- 1:04:33Speaker 2: They give you ninety days and you can extend that
- 1:04:36Speaker 2: if you want. You can get a long term visa
- 1:04:38Speaker 2: if you want.
- 1:04:40Speaker 1: So.
- 1:04:40Speaker 2: My gung ho travel attitude is I like having my
- 1:04:44Speaker 2: life to myself, and the easiest fix to that was
- 1:04:50Speaker 2: becoming a traveler, because I have to pay so much
- 1:04:53Speaker 2: less for such a higher quality of life, so much
- 1:04:57Speaker 2: more time to myself, and so many inter things around
- 1:05:00Speaker 2: me all the time. When I go every three months
- 1:05:03Speaker 2: to a new country, like in Peru, it was all
- 1:05:07Speaker 2: the ancient ruins of the cities. In Morocco, it was
- 1:05:10Speaker 2: the assorted meat's plate with camel hump and all sorts
- 1:05:15Speaker 2: of different things as cargo on the plate, and the
- 1:05:19Speaker 2: countless outdoor night markets in Thailand. In Japan it was
- 1:05:23Speaker 2: cherry blossoms and sushi. In Vietnam, it was a giant
- 1:05:27Speaker 2: backpacking trip through the mountains, and I was bike packing
- 1:05:31Speaker 2: the whole time, but I would take days off and
- 1:05:33Speaker 2: just sleep in a hammock and hang out, Like riding
- 1:05:36Speaker 2: a bicycle is fun, So when I got tired, I
- 1:05:39Speaker 2: would rest, and then when I was not tired, when
- 1:05:42Speaker 2: I was rejuvenated from resting, I'd go ride the bicycle again,
- 1:05:47Speaker 2: because riding a bicycle is fun. And I'm not the
- 1:05:50Speaker 2: only person doing this. There are other people who travel
- 1:05:55Speaker 2: for the same practical reasons, for the same better deal.
- 1:05:59Speaker 2: It's so and expensive to live as a traveler, and
- 1:06:02Speaker 2: you get so much more of your free time back.
- 1:06:05Speaker 2: Five hundred dollars US per month gets you your own
- 1:06:08Speaker 2: private apartment and enough food for the month. A thousand
- 1:06:11Speaker 2: US gets you even more food and beer and free
- 1:06:16Speaker 2: money to throw on a snorkeling trip, rent a electric
- 1:06:20Speaker 2: scooter for the month, or whatever you can get a
- 1:06:23Speaker 2: little bit more. I don't have a super gung ho
- 1:06:27Speaker 2: travel attitude. I don't need the adrenaline of hopping from
- 1:06:30Speaker 2: experience to experience. I like experiencing some of those adventures
- 1:06:36Speaker 2: at my own pace and living abroad. Being a traveler
- 1:06:40Speaker 2: just gives me such a better deal than I got
- 1:06:45Speaker 2: back in the States. Of course, I did get an
- 1:06:47Speaker 2: RV in the States and put some put a solar
- 1:06:50Speaker 2: setup on there myself, and that was pretty sick and
- 1:06:53Speaker 2: I wouldn't mind doing that again.
- 1:06:56Speaker 1: That was cool.
- 1:06:57Speaker 2: Like you know, ual car registration, pay for the insurance
- 1:07:04Speaker 2: and it's like a one time payment. Then you paid
- 1:07:08Speaker 2: for your whole rent for like a couple thousand dollars
- 1:07:11Speaker 2: of insurance whatever it is.
- 1:07:14Speaker 1: Man, my review was so cheap. The insurance was insane.
- 1:07:17Speaker 1: It was something like ten dollars a month.
- 1:07:21Speaker 2: It was so cheap, fourteen dollars a month, so it
- 1:07:23Speaker 2: was like one hundred and fifty dollars for the entire
- 1:07:26Speaker 2: year for that RV.
- 1:07:27Speaker 1: I still have no idea how that happened.
- 1:07:30Speaker 2: But I lived in that thing for nine months, going
- 1:07:32Speaker 2: around the US, and I had free electricity from the sun,
- 1:07:35Speaker 2: and I had a refrigerator and a full stove. I
- 1:07:40Speaker 2: had propane also, I had a propane tank that powered
- 1:07:44Speaker 2: the stove and the refrigerator.
- 1:07:45Speaker 1: But I had full utilities.
- 1:07:46Speaker 2: And then any electricity came from the sun. I took
- 1:07:49Speaker 2: electric bike around with me and it cost me none
- 1:07:52Speaker 2: of my time. I didn't have to work at all
- 1:07:54Speaker 2: because I was living inside the RV and had all my.
- 1:08:01Speaker 1: For I don't know, a few thousand for the entire year.
- 1:08:05Speaker 1: I just want the better deals.
- 1:08:07Speaker 2: I want a better deal for my time, to myself,
- 1:08:11Speaker 2: for my own life, to myself, to use my life
- 1:08:14Speaker 2: as I see fit, to experience life as I see fit.
- 1:08:18Speaker 2: And once I looked at all the costs of doing
- 1:08:21Speaker 2: that and started living abroad, it was a parent that
- 1:08:27Speaker 2: was very and is very possible probably for you too.
- 1:08:31Speaker 2: If you're listening to this and thinking like, maybe I
- 1:08:33Speaker 2: could do that. If you're thinking maybe you could do that,
- 1:08:35Speaker 2: you probably can do that. Can do this if you
- 1:08:39Speaker 2: want to jam about it. If you want to talk
- 1:08:44Speaker 2: talk to me bit of a Rambler at gmail dot com.
- 1:08:47Speaker 2: You can talk to me a bit of a rambler
- 1:08:48Speaker 2: at Blue Sky or Lemmy. Other people will think you're
- 1:08:52Speaker 2: a gung ho adventure traveler and you can mostly just
- 1:08:56Speaker 2: relax all day