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Iran targets Gulf states as tensions escalate · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

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  It's time for the truth be told with Booker Scott.
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  Believe it or not, we are coming up on three weeks of this conflict in Iran.
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  We've had some American military deaths, unfortunately.
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  A lot of people are concerned that more may come.
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  It looks like the military is doing everything perfectly.
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  If you listen to Donald Trump, we're going to find out if that is true with a special guest tonight.
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  He's been on the program before.
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  You see him a lot on Fox News and also on Newsmax.
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  I've seen him there as well.
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  His name is Lieutenant Colonel Darren Gaub.
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  And Lieutenant Colonel, welcome back to the program.
• 0:54
  Always good to have you.
• 0:55
  All right, Booker, thank you for having me back on again.
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  It's been a little bit, but uh, you know, lots of lots of changed, and a lot stayed the same.
• 1:03
  It's been a very fast three weeks, though, since this war kicked off.
• 1:06
  I think the last time you were here, we were talking about Iran again.
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  This time was back in June when we dropped the Moabs and tried to take out all their nuclear capabilities.
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  I guess we didn't back then because now here we are again.
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  And that I guess is one of the objectives that Donald Trump has talked about.
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  In my mind, I'm having a hard time understanding exactly what the objectives are here.
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  I think militarily it is to destroy the ballistic missile launchers and the missile capabilities.
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  But I'm not hearing much else.
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  What what do you think the true objectives are here?
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  Because you hear regime change and you you hear a lot of different things.
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  Messaging, I think has been a little bit uh chanky sometimes.
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  What do you think?
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  What what are the objectives here?
• 1:50
  Yeah, that's one of the challenges, and I'll tell you, um, as a military planner who's worked a lot of different levels of planning, including operations that would be considered at the same level in scope and intensity of Iran.
• 2:02
  Uh defining objectives and then putting them on paper and then defining what also, by the way, makes them measurable and achievable, so you know when you've reached something.
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  It sounds easy, but it's extraordinarily difficult, and especially with a conflict like this.
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  And so I think it's easy to say uh remove the ability of Iran to threaten uh the region and frankly, potentially the globe with uh nuclear capabilities and andor missiles, and of course, those two can be combined.
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  Uh, and and that tends to be where everybody stops because it is easy to understand.
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  What's gets a little bit more difficult is uh is the word regime change, and it tends to have uh a negative connotation to it, and that negative uh reputation, I guess you could say is well earned.
• 2:54
  But in this case, I would say that what they're doing is the objective being big picture, eliminate Iran's ability to threaten the entire region and potentially the globe with nuclears and with nuclear missiles and missiles in general.
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  Um, and the second one being the uh set the conditions for the people of Iran to be able to, if they choose to eliminate the dictatorship around them and chart a new path forward from Iran, how you do that is eliminate as much as you can of the state's security apparatus, which is mostly internal security, very little external when it comes to the military functions, and uh that's what I see is the harder one to define, the harder one to understand, and why it tends to be something that's kind of glossed over in the military objectives discussions that happen in public because it's it's actually a lot harder to win that victory than it is, you know.
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  What I say is it's a lot harder to win the peace than it is to win the war sometimes, and we're very good militarily at achieving military scope and objectives as you see happening.
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  It's the what happens next.
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  Uh and the last thing I'll say is sometimes military objectives for operations of this scale are not shared publicly for a reason.
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  You do not want to give an enemy force a clear definition of what you're trying to achieve or do because they'll take advantage of it.
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  And the best example of that is when Biden came across the internet and they're in the news services and said, This is when we're leaving Afghanistan.
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  Well, you've just handed all leverage to the Taliban.
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  Yeah.
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  That's why sometimes you don't do that.
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  And that resulted in American deaths.
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  13 were killed there at Abbey Gate as a result of that and a terrible withdrawal from Afghanistan.
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  Most Americans wanted it, even Donald Trump wanted that to happen.
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  The way that it took place, the way that it happened with Joe Biden was a debacle.
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  It was terrible.
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  It should have never happened that way.
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  There were different ways to do it, and obviously history will tell everybody exactly what happened there in Afghanistan and Abbey Gate, and we're still paying for that, I think today.
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  Let's go back to military here in Iran.
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  Will you give it a grade of A plus so far from what you're seeing?
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  Oh, yeah, from from what I'm seeing, I mean, you're gonna give it a solid A easily.
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  Uh A plus, if you dig into the details and things pan out the way they should.
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  Now, I will tell you that there's a I've been in a myriad of military operations of multiple scales, and you know, nothing ever goes perfect, as you would expect.
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  I mean, there's gonna be communications challenges, something's gonna break, there's gonna be a misconstrued order, you know, timing's gonna happen or weather or things in or in or out of your control.
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  Um, but in the end, despite all that, that's kind of like the uh the work going on behind the curtain on a stage play.
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  Uh, as long as you put up the show before the audience, for lack of a better way to describe it, and they don't see anything wrong, then you know, you're covering up for all those little not necessarily covering up, but you're making up for all those mistakes that happened that and they're not big enough to affect the overall operation.
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  So I've been thoroughly impressed with this operation, how effective it's been, how quick it's been uh across the board.
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  And I know there's some lessons learned from messaging to targeting, and there'll be plenty of them for years in advance.
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  But the I think the American people can look at this and they can debate whether we should or shouldn't be doing this.
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  That's a healthy debate to have.
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  But when you look at the professionalism of the military operation and what they're achieving, uh American folks should know that they should be very proud of this and know that there is still no force on this planet that matches ours.
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  It is impressive, and the American people should get behind the military regardless of whether you think we should be doing this or not.
• 6:57
  But let me ask you, Darren, do you think we should be doing this?
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  Do you see that there was an imminent threat from Iran?
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  Because a lot of people are using that word because of the war powers act.
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  Was there an imminent threat from uh Iran after, especially after June last year, when we went in there and dropped bombs to uh take care of their nuclear capabilities.
• 7:19
  Yeah, uh well, you know, and I am behind what's happening, and here's the reason why.
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  Uh 1979, we know the Iranian revolution happened, and the Shah was deposed, and the um and the mullahs took charge and began to turn Iran into a theocratic dictatorship based on some of the most radical views of Islam you can imagine.
• 7:38
  At that same time, the uh that dictatorship organization and group became uh very clear in their goals about uh number one target erase the Jewish state, number two target, the most powerful Christian nation on the planet of us.
• 7:53
  They declared war on us then, they've been at war with us since.
• 7:57
  I agree, and we have not paid attention to that fact.
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  I mean, we're basically the guy in the corner getting mauled by a sl, you know, uh you know uh in a boxing ring and getting pummeled by a much smaller boxer who doesn't have the skill to be even in the ring in the first place.
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  So um anybody who says that you know we started this and uh Iran did not uh is simply not aware of history and what's been going on.
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  I have the benefit of having a lot of intelligence background as well, so I know what they've been doing.
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  Um, and to a point you have to respect the idea that there could be an imminent threat.
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  And with Iran, there always is.
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  They had the capacity, and we're building the capacity over time to create ultimately missiles with nuclear cape capability, even if it was regional and not global.
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  That just couldn't be allowed to happen.
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  And what has happened to Iran over those decades, though.
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  Well, frankly, it's turned into a global narco-terrorist, regular terrorist, religious theocracy money laundering scheme, sending out terrorists, terrorism, and all these things that you can imagine globally.
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  And so when we say that, you know, it's Iran, that's the Middle East concern.
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  That's not our war.
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  Well, it is to Iran.
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  We are their target, and they had Hezbollah in Venezuela and in the islands north of Venezuela.
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  They've moved Hezbollah through through Mexico into the southern border of the United States.
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  Um, and so the history is there, and we need to acknowledge it, and we can't change that history.
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  We are where we are now, and so we have to deal with the threat that's in front of us now.
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  And there's a chance to free 90 million people from the hands of a dictatorship in Persia.
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  And uh, you know, I think it's uh a noble cause we're engaged in for very good reason.
• 9:55
  Yeah.
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  And people will make arguments against that, but uh, I I think a lot of them are concerned.
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  About us getting into protracted land wars where we have failed before.
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  Well, let's talk about it.
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  I don't see Trump doing it.
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  Yeah, I don't even see Trump doing that.
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  I mean, if if that was the case, guess what would have happened already?
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  There would have been National Guard modal mobilizations.
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  There would have been reserve mobilizations.
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  There would have been active duty forces on trains going to boats because that takes a month, month and a half sometimes just to get across the water in large quantities.
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  And I'm I'm familiar with the logistics behind how these large formations move.
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  I've done it so many times.
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  If we were intending to be on the ground in Iran with significant levels of forces at all of any kind, they would have already been moving two months ago.
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  I remember the first Gulf War.
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  And it took a month, two months to get everybody over there in the desert before they ever invaded and went into Kuwait to remove Saddam Hussein and Iraq.
• 10:55
  You make a great point there.
• 10:56
  I had not even thought about that.
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  That's why you're here on the program with the military background that you have.
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  Let's go back to that history because I wrote an article on that a couple of weeks ago, 1979, Iran declared war.
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  I used the words that you used.
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  And some people came back to me.
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  Well, what about 1947 to 1953 when uh England came in there and they put in the Shah?
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  And uh so they were trying to make the argument that the CIA along with England actually started all of this and took it away from the people of Iran.
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  But I think we know the truth.
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  That is not the truth.
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  We know that the Iranian people, 75% of them right now, they want their freedom.
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  They want it back like they had it prior to 1979.
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  As you look at yeah, go ahead, Darren, please comment.
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  Quick and easy one there is like, you know, let's just pretend like all that was even true.
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  So what?
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  Yeah, does that help us solve this problem now?
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  Not really.
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  I mean, I'm I'm I think we're all pretty well versed in the fact that there's a lot that has to do with the banking system and the Bretton Woods Accords and uh all wars being banker wars that you could bring into all this and create a lot of different philosophical and other types of arguments, sure.
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  But you know, does that solve the issue we're dealing with in 2026?
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  And what exactly is that issue?
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  Is it Iran nuclear weapons?
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  Is it Iran continuing to disrupt the Gulf Arab nations as they have with Hezbollah, the Houthis, and uh Hamas in the Gaza Strip?
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  Is that what this is all about to uh make the the Gulf Arab nations and obviously Israel make them free and safe?
• 12:34
  Well, that's certainly part of it.
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  Um, but it in and of itself, it's not all.
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  I mean this is another one of those things that uh that I executed and learned in the military was that oftentimes what you're looking for is the effect of an action.
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  And so don't always tell me as a planner or a commander, depending on where I was, um, exactly what you want me to do and how you want me to do it.
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  Tell me what effect you're trying to achieve, and I will help you and I will help by defining a way forward to get to that.
• 13:08
  So, what other effects are we looking for beyond the reducing Iran's missile capabilities, nuclear capabilities, and general uh annoying part of us that is Iran throughout Middle East Central Asia.
• 13:22
  Well, when you combine Iran with Venezuela, you take away a large part of the cheap oil that was going to China.
• 13:34
  Yeah, you take away the drone factories that were supplying Russia.
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  Uh you take away a you know, those are just the big ones.
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  There's a lot of little things out there that the effects you achieved are not destroying Iran's missile capabilities.
• 13:51
  What you're doing in many cases, you're actually attempting to restructure much of the global economic order uh out to China, out to Venezuela, out to who runs the Panama Canal, and by the way, affecting Russia and Ukraine, the Russia-Ukraine war.
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  Uh, and these are just some examples, and certainly not all, because we haven't even talked about things like um Lloyds of London becoming irrelevant to ensuring shipping in the Panama Canal by saying, hey, we'll do it.
• 14:23
  Um they've been around for a long time, and they may become more irrelevant uh in the insurance industry altogether as a result of this.
• 14:31
  Well, they could, and they're very powerful player.
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  We're still dealing with a lot of the uh post-British Empire world, including, by the way, those lines on the map in the Middle East.
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  So that's a valid point that that's how those lines got there.
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  That's why the Kurds are distributed across so many nations and all of these things.
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  When you put them all together, you end up with the problem that we're dealing with today, which is a rogue regime in Iran that is basically being used as a facilitation mechanism to uh export terrorism, drugs, and so many other things around the world.
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  I want to get that's the reality.
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  I want to get your thoughts on the Strait of Hormuz and Kark Island and those things in a few minutes, but I want to come back to the regime change part of it.
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  I personally believe I don't have military experience.
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  You do, that's why you're here.
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  But I personally believe that the people of Iran are going to have to do that.
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  And it sounds like that's what Donald Trump believes.
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  We have seen what has happened in Syria, Syria.
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  We've kind of left it up to them.
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  It is worked out, I guess for now.
• 15:35
  It's uh no longer a civil war going there like it has been.
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  You know, that's what's going to have to happen with those 75% of the people.
• 15:42
  You mentioned the Kurds there a few minutes ago.
• 15:44
  I read over the weekend that the Kurds are really standing by to be the ground troops if they need them.
• 15:50
  There are Kurds in Iran and there are Kurds there on the border as well.
• 15:54
  Have you heard anything about that?
• 15:56
  Yeah, I I've seen some stuff about the Kurds and I've been I've worked with them in the past and know what they're like.
• 16:02
  Uh and and so I'll start off by saying, yes, I believe the answer to the Iranian slash Persian question is their own people.
• 16:09
  And but we can set the conditions for them to be able to do what they have to do by reducing their security apparatus and so on and all the leadership that may want to stick its head up, which you know they seem to be less likely to do now.
• 16:23
  Um you're not going to stick an American military in Iran and think you're going to solve the problem of 90 million people.
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  That's just not feasible.
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  And by the way, four times the size of Iraq, and you saw how hard Iraq was.
• 16:36
  When it comes to the Kurds, speaking of Iraq, um, every time you hear Urbil on the news, that's Kurdish territory.
• 16:43
  They've also got southeastern Turkey and northern Iran spread throughout there and in a portion of northern Syria.
• 16:50
  And so they've been basically a state within a state in a way, which is why Turkey's always been very careful with the American military when I was down there flying missions along the Syrian border, because they assumed that we were actually helping the Kurdish people build some sort of revolution against the Turkish government.
• 17:08
  Well, there's a part of that that you know is true to the point where the Kurds want to be independent of Turkey, Iraq, Iran, and Northern Syria.
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  We have we, of course, weren't doing that.
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  That was that was their imagination.
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  But the Kurdish people are intensely loyal if you're loyal to them.
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  There is no greater enemy and no better friend.
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  And you better keep them as a friend.
• 17:33
  We've given our word to them in many cases, and we need to do so.
• 17:37
  Uh what I would envision in an Iran scenario is not the Kurdish people rolling into Tehran and taking it over, that kind of a thing.
• 17:48
  More of uh an Irabil situation in northern Iran where they might carve out a piece of land that they essentially put their their tents down and put a stake in the ground and say this is ours.
• 17:58
  Just don't bother us, we won't bother you.
• 18:01
  The map wines won't really change.
• 18:03
  But it would it would then function like Northeast Iraq, where Urbil is almost like a cosmopolitan eastern European city, uh compared to the rest of Iraq itself and much of the Middle East.
• 18:16
  Um I think the Kurds may have a role, but I think that's not the solution to Iran writ large.
• 18:24
  Well, how do you go into Tehran then?
• 18:27
  And I don't necessarily believe that the Kurds were going to take it for it to be their own, but really to be the ground force for those 75% of the 90 million people in Iran.
• 18:38
  They don't have arms.
• 18:39
  They're not going to be able to do this without arms or without an army.
• 18:43
  And this is why I say it's the uh the military phase of this is the easy phase, frankly.
• 18:50
  Uh, and it's what we are we're used to.
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  It's what we're the best at.
• 18:53
  Uh, where we've constantly been challenged is saying, okay, we can't let mission creep take over on this and force us onto the ground in Iran to try to establish their governance.
• 19:03
  No, they need to do that for themselves.
• 19:05
  Can the Kurds play a role?
• 19:07
  Sure.
• 19:07
  And especially if it's giving and arming the people of Iran if that's what they want to be able to solve their own problem with, besides potentially them taking weapons from their own IRGC and goods forces whenever they get the opportunity to do so.
• 19:23
  Uh, and that's that I think is the answer.
• 19:26
  I don't think it's an easy answer, and I don't think it's going to be a bloodless answer.
• 19:31
  Uh, but I do think it's the only way forward that is remotely feasible.
• 19:35
  And we're not trying to establish like we did in Afghanistan and Iraq, which we're not going to try to establish in there a functioning American-style, you know, constitutional republic with democratic tendencies.
• 19:50
  We just want a nation in Iran, I think, and the rest of the Middle East would like this too, as a nation that uh can at least get along with its neighbors.
• 19:57
  Yeah, yeah.
• 19:58
  No, I agree.
• 19:59
  And not be
• 20:00
  I mean, look, we got dictatorships or you know, theocracies in the Middle East that we work with all the time.
• 20:06
  Um that doesn't make them our enemy, and it doesn't necessarily mean they have to be our friends.
• 20:11
  But if Iran is not what it is now, uh, that's a win.
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  And it's I don't know.
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  None of us can foresee the future in this whole thing, but it's gonna get harder when it comes to what Iran turns into.
• 20:24
  And I encourage people to be patient.
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  Let this thing work out.
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  Nobody, as you just said, nobody really knows what's gonna happen.
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  That is war or a conflict, whatever you want to call this thing.
• 20:35
  That's what happens.
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  You really don't know.
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  You can plan for everything.
• 20:38
  I think you do plan for everything.
• 20:40
  You just don't know what direction it's gonna go.
• 20:42
  I think that's where we are.
• 20:43
  We have more of this conversation coming up.
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  You're listening to Lieutenant Colonel Darren Gaub.
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  Darren, always great to have you.
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  Let's pick up the conversation there where we left off.
• 23:03
  We are talking about regime change.
• 23:05
  We're talking about the Iranian people.
• 23:08
  How soon could that part of this start taking place?
• 23:12
  We see that the military for America, Donald Trump's plan, I think, from what I can gather was four to six weeks.
• 23:18
  That puts it around April 9th.
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  And as I said, going into the break, be patient.
• 23:22
  You can never really figure out what's going to happen for sure.
• 23:25
  But let's assume that somewhere along that timeline is about right.
• 23:29
  Do you feel like they've done everything that they can do militarily, the United States and Israel as far as decapitating the leadership, the I Ayatollahs?
• 23:39
  Um, not yet.
• 23:41
  And the reason why I say that is because the way this is the way this works, um, from an unclassified planning perspective, is you take away the greatest threat first with the immediate objective.
• 23:53
  And that immediate objective was the ability to remove their capability to launch missiles all over the region in in even greater quantities than we actually saw.
• 24:03
  In order to do that, you had to reduce and eliminate the effectiveness or completely potentially their air defense systems across the entire country.
• 24:12
  Once you do that, then you open up the aperture, and then you're actually allowed to fly a whole lot more airplanes in and use a lot more other assets in places like the Hormuz Strait on Carg Island, and you name it.
• 24:25
  And then you move inland and you start saying, okay, we're not gonna we don't have to keep targeting air defense systems because they're gone.
• 24:32
  If they pop up, we'll eliminate them on call or when we identify them.
• 24:36
  So what they're gonna do now is start eliminating the key command and control nodes and military supply depots and stuff that have to do with that internal security function that their military serves.
• 24:50
  I mean, all their guns in their hand are pointed inward.
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  They're not an invading force of foreign nations.
• 24:55
  They're the they're a controlling agency of their own people.
• 24:59
  And so if we can start peeling that back, and I do agree that somewhere in the next probably you know, three to five weeks or so that you could very well have airplanes over the skies of Iran that are just boring holes in the skies because we've largely hit everything that mattered.
• 25:17
  In that situation, if you're effective enough and the people on the ground there realize it enough, they can come together, and we've helped set those conditions and put those in place to where the people can do that with much less risk than they would be now.
• 25:36
  And so that's why there's plenty of work left to do because that internal security apparatus is a 500,000-person military with uh, you know, well, what a 10,000-person could's who are the most violent radical.
• 25:48
  And we're just gonna keep playing, I guess, whack-a-mole with Iranian leaders.
• 25:53
  Uh and as I've described many times, that Iran currently is led by uh a picture in a frame.
• 25:59
  Right.
• 26:00
  Not led by an actual person.
• 26:02
  And maybe he's gone too.
• 26:03
  We don't know.
• 26:04
  Uh it would be interesting to find out.
• 26:06
  I would not stick my head out at all if I were him.
• 26:09
  Yeah.
• 26:10
  And you can't do that if you're gonna claim leadership.
• 26:12
  You're a you wouldn't think that's leadership, uh, living in a hole like a groundhog.
• 26:17
  Right.
• 26:17
  That's not leading.
• 26:18
  I'm gonna put you all at risk, and I'm gonna hide in a bunker.
• 26:21
  Let's talk about the Strait of Hormuz because it's in the news.
• 26:24
  You were talking about it earlier, how it's tied with China, Russia, not just China too, but yeah, the Asian countries, Japan, South Korea, all of them are heavily dependent on the oil that comes through there.
• 26:36
  And I guess what, 80 to 90 percent of the oil from Iran goes through the island that we were discussing.
• 26:43
  We bombed military assets, bases, whatever on that island, and I guess we took them out.
• 26:49
  So I think also Donald Trump in America were showing them we can also take out your oil.
• 26:55
  It sounds like Donald Trump doesn't want to do that because he is dealing with higher gas prices already, and he doesn't want to get that out of control.
• 27:02
  And if you destroy all of that oil, then the only thing that's gonna happen is the price of gas is gonna go up here at home domestically, and that's not what he wants to do.
• 27:11
  But he did want to send a message, I think.
• 27:13
  And then I've heard some people, former generals, General Kellogg would be one of those.
• 27:18
  He says we should seize the island.
• 27:21
  And we hear about this uh 2500 marine expeditionary force that's on their way over there, probably take another week to 10 days or so.
• 27:28
  Is there any possibility that's their purpose?
• 27:31
  Uh there's always that possibility, and uh uh you know, Kellogg and I, I guess you could say it's fair that we don't we're not gonna find agreement very often.
• 27:40
  Um, and so but then again, I don't I have a lot of generals that don't agree with me is probably why I retired as a what's in the colonel.
• 27:47
  Well, I don't think it would be a good idea, and I'm not uh former lieutenant colonel.
• 27:52
  I just don't think that uh, you know, sending troops there on that island is a good idea at all.
• 27:58
  And I I just don't know how it helps.
• 28:01
  And um, so I don't know, maybe you and I agree on that.
• 28:04
  Well, yeah, given the conditions that we're in right now, I don't see the need.
• 28:08
  And and here here's why.
• 28:09
  And this will go back to my my time and other news channels.
• 28:13
  Uh I was doing an interview yesterday with uh on newsmax, and I made the point that uh if I were in the room with Trump right now, I would highly discourage bombing the oil facilities on Card Island, and I would not occupy it.
• 28:27
  Uh one, because if you start bombing the oil facilities, what you're what you're doing is actually ruining the economic possibilities of Iran and the people.
• 28:35
  Now you're attacking the people and not the not the dictators and the moolas.
• 28:40
  Um yes, I know they get their money through that oil.
• 28:43
  But all you got to do to stop that is just not let the ships leave.
• 28:47
  That's pretty helpful.
• 28:49
  Uh then that way the infrastructure's in place, and there's still a price for the mulas anyways.
• 28:56
  But you know, and but right now we got to get the straits open.
• 28:59
  We know that they are severely degraded.
• 29:01
  Uh, and and most of that is largely due to risk decisions on hat on behalf of the companies that own the tankers.
• 29:09
  Uh, and I think we'll I think we'll surmount that obstacle to a point and before too long because we're working to eradicate all those areas that threaten the straits from Iran in the first place.
• 29:20
  That's drone launching capabilities, uh, surface-to-surface missile engagements from land to sea, uh, those kinds of things.
• 29:28
  But Iran's been, again, planning on this war for almost 50 years.
• 29:32
  And so they're they've got things littered all over the place.
• 29:34
  And frankly, uh, the straits are hormous as their the only real last leverage point.
• 29:40
  And so they're gonna keep be desperate to keep that thing as a a price to pay.
• 29:46
  Now, for America, two percent of our oil comes from the Persian Gulf region to here.
• 29:52
  We're a net exporter still, regardless, but we're still subject to the global market of oil, whether there's a glut or a
• 30:00
  Reduction, uh the prices fluctuate based on perceived risk in the future, not the necessarily the the now uh supply capability.
• 30:08
  So uh we know it's important, and I think the risk decision on Trump's behalf and that he needs to keep in place is that you're not helping the situation if you destroy those facilities on Carg Island that are left.
• 30:22
  You're making things worse.
• 30:25
  Destroying the military capabilities on the island, I'm okay with throwing a marine expeditionary unit on there.
• 30:32
  Uh you're gonna have to be convincing and the reason why we would need to do that.
• 30:37
  Yeah, I I don't uh I don't see a reason to do that either.
• 30:40
  When it comes to the Strait of Horror moves, Donald Trump has had some frustration.
• 30:44
  He came out with this on Tuesday about NATO, our NATO allies.
• 30:49
  It is frustrating.
• 30:51
  We have been there for Ukraine, which benefits Eastern Europe.
• 30:54
  We have spent 200 billion dollars between cash and weapons.
• 30:59
  We've been there for Ukraine and Eastern Europe, and now here we are with this.
• 31:03
  While the Trump says they all agree that this is a bad thing, they still don't want to help.
• 31:08
  And I have some sound here, Darren.
• 31:10
  We're gonna listen to this.
• 31:11
  This was Donald Trump from the Oval Office on Tuesday about NATO.
• 31:15
  All of the NATO allies agreed with us, and but they don't want to, you know, despite the fact that we helped them so much, we have uh thousands of soldiers in different countries all over the world, and uh they don't want to help us, which is amazing.
• 31:31
  I mean, amazing.
• 31:32
  And I didn't do a full court press uh because I think if I did, they probably would be, but we don't we don't need help.
• 31:39
  You know, we've we've that war is uh has been long prosecuted as far as I'm concerned, almost from day one.
• 31:46
  We knocked out many of these things.
• 31:48
  We knocked out the Navy essentially in a couple of days.
• 31:51
  But I was surprised to see that NATO uh while they agree that it was a very important thing to do, they agree fully.
• 31:58
  Nobody said, Oh, you shouldn't do it.
• 32:00
  Uh they had they would have had a nuclear weapon within one month of when we had the B-2 bombers bomb the nuclear potential, the I call it the nuclear dust.
• 32:10
  Uh so uh I think NATO's making a very foolish mistake.
• 32:16
  And I I've long said that, you know, I wonder whether or not NATO would ever be there for us.
• 32:22
  So this is a this was a great test because we don't need them, but they should have been there.
• 32:27
  The other thing is uh, and I think you know, very important.
• 32:31
  Uh we didn't have to be there for Ukraine.
• 32:35
  You know, Biden chose to spend hundreds of billions of dollars on Ukraine.
• 32:40
  Uh and I guess the head of Germany just made a statement that uh well, they weren't involved and they have nothing to do with the war, but at the same time they think we did a great thing by knocking them out.
• 32:54
  Nobody wants to have uh nobody wants to have Iran or anybody, but nobody wants to have Iran with a nuclear because these people are crazy.
• 33:02
  I don't know about you, but it sort of frustrates me too that uh NATO is not there.
• 33:07
  Why not?
• 33:08
  What is wrong with these people?
• 33:09
  Yeah.
• 33:10
  Well, there's a lot there.
• 33:11
  Uh first of all, I'm I'm careful to make sure that uh I don't couch this as a question of NATO as an organization per se, because NATO is an organization dedicated to the defense of Western Europe.
• 33:26
  And uh to me, this is more about maybe aligned European allies that should or yeah, they should be a part of this, and they should have been from the start.
• 33:39
  Um, because that that gets NATO out of it because guess what?
• 33:42
  We we are NATO.
• 33:43
  Uh huh, right of that alliance, so we're complaining about ourselves.
• 33:47
  Uh, and I know that might be a nuance in many years, but you know, from the defense world and the diplomacy world, it it kind of sticks out as like uh what you guys are NATO.
• 33:58
  Um, and that's also a bit of a problem with the with the whole thing is because we prop it up.
• 34:04
  But what I will say is the reason he's right in that you know, asking for some minesweepers or some other assets from France, Germany, uh, the United Kingdom, and other nations, well, they should be there because guess what?
• 34:19
  They get more of their oil and energy supplies from the Persian Gulf than we do.
• 34:22
  Guess who else should be there?
• 34:24
  Well, India.
• 34:25
  I mean, most of those supplies out of the Persian Gulf go to Asia.
• 34:28
  Japan is a nation.
• 34:30
  Yeah, oh, yeah.
• 34:30
  And they should have a very invested interest.
• 34:32
  And I know I know Japan has made some statements about helping, but you know, we'll see in action whether or not the words meet the action or not.
• 34:40
  But um, you know, it's gonna continue to be a problem.
• 34:44
  But here's one of the main concerns, and this is my collecting information from my veterans network that runs through a number of European nations, and that is the fact that they've got anywhere between six and eight percent, depending on the country you're looking at of their populations now have been taken over by many of the radical Islamic philosophy people that you are dealing with in Iran.
• 35:10
  Yeah.
• 35:11
  And so if they send their capabilities into the Middle East, well, these people in London and Berlin and Paris might erupt because now you're doing something against the Islamic people who they may rise up and and be ratified.
• 35:30
  Uh, and so and I've had people kick back that argument and say, well, it's only like six percent or eight percent.
• 35:36
  I'm like, okay, let's do the math.
• 35:37
  Yeah, you know, what is what is let's just say five percent.
• 35:42
  What's five percent of 360 million people in the United States?
• 35:46
  Yeah, and then compare it to the summer of love and the Black Lives Matter and all that kind of stuff and the damage they did and all those numbers.
• 35:53
  Well, you know, 18 million people, five percent of 360 million, can do a lot of damage if they're completely bent on violence, and oh, by the way, many of them are think it's a promotion to die.
• 36:07
  Yeah.
• 36:08
  Well, these European nations know this.
• 36:12
  Their leadership is weak, intentionally weak from Macron to Starmer, you name it.
• 36:19
  Um, and so they're gonna say what they have to say, but I seriously doubt they're ever gonna actually do anything of value, and they're gonna let us just ride this thing out and try to be the beneficiaries.
• 36:30
  Well, we know how that works.
• 36:32
  Remember how we went into Iraq and we were going to become the predominant importer of their oil.
• 36:37
  Well, that didn't happen.
• 36:39
  Uh we tend to be the world police, and everybody else benefits, and that's what's got people frustrated and rightfully so.
• 36:45
  Yeah, and people want to pull back and uh you know, just worry about America and America first.
• 36:50
  I make the argument that what is going on in Iran is America first.
• 36:56
  And it's really hard for me to see it any other way because what Donald Trump is doing in the U.S.
• 37:01
  military is they're preventing more American deaths.
• 37:05
  Over 1,000 Americans have been killed since 1979.
• 37:09
  You mentioned that that's when Iran declared war.
• 37:13
  Over 1,000 Americans, civilian and military have been killed.
• 37:17
  2900 or so in uh 9-11, 2996, I think the number was 2400 in Pearl Harbor, and the next one is the deaths of Americans to the Iranians.
• 37:29
  And that is an imminent threat, in my opinion.
• 37:31
  And I think if you don't clean that up right now, if Donald Trump doesn't do it, no other president is ever going to do it.
• 37:38
  Biden, Obama, they did appeasement with Iran, and Donald Trump is gonna have to do it.
• 37:44
  And you look at the Abraham Accords and what it has done in bringing an alliance with Israel and the other Gulf Arab nations, and then you pay attention over the last couple of years, since October 7th, how these other nations they haven't gotten involved at all.
• 37:58
  That's how you know that this thing was never gonna escalate to other countries.
• 38:03
  Now, Iran has tried.
• 38:04
  They tried to draw them in, but they have abstained from doing anything.
• 38:09
  They're letting America and Israel continue to do the work just like they have over the last two years with Hezbollah in Lebanon, Hamas and Gaza, and uh Donald Trump bombing the Houthis in Yemen.
• 38:21
  And I think that's the right answer is a in, you know, we recognize the threat to our friends in Qatar and the UAE and uh the Gulf Cooperation Council states that are throughout there who've been bullied and intimidated by Iran for good reasons.
• 38:36
  And you know, we can look at them in the eye and say, hey, listen, you know what?
• 38:40
  I you're gonna get attacked by drones or some missiles, and some are gonna get through and you're gonna suffer something.
• 38:45
  They don't know what it is.
• 38:47
  But the worst thing you can do is get involved in a way that actually makes this mission more hazardous.
• 38:53
  And because we're not used to working necessarily with some of these countries militarily.
• 38:57
  Some of the best thing they can do is defend their airspace and generally not get in the way.
• 39:03
  Yeah, and that's actually helping us.
• 39:04
  And I agree with you that this is uh America first isn't America only.
• 39:09
  Yeah, America first isn't only within our borders.
• 39:12
  It's okay, you know, let's identify the correct threat.
• 39:17
  Let's identify what they're trying to do.
• 39:20
  And then let's say, you know what?
• 39:22
  Protecting America is America first, regardless of where the threat comes.
• 39:26
  Because if you think your immediate neighbors on your left and right of your house are the only ones that can threaten you when it's the guy five houses down who's trying to poison your home and send people up against you, yeah, maybe then you should go uh remember that we are actually still a community of nations able to influence and they're very connected to each other, and a threat in Iran can manifest itself through I don't know, drug addiction in the backyards of your communities.
• 39:52
  And that's to me, when we're talking casualties, American casualties of Iran and what they've been exporting, and you put it together with.
• 40:00
  Willing nations who operate with them like China.
• 40:04
  Now you're getting a better sense of the scope of what Iran's been involved in and what they're capable of doing through these networks, these nexuses of terrorism and drug addiction.
• 40:14
  Because they're just trying to whittle at us from the inside, too.
• 40:18
  Yeah.
• 40:18
  So 500,000 American casualties to fentanyl falls on China and by the way on Iran as part of that nexus.
• 40:26
  You know, we've got to get to the right perspective of scale on this.
• 40:30
  And we haven't even broached the what I would call um a biblical narrative to some of this too.
• 40:38
  Yeah, well, you want to get into that?
• 40:40
  We can talk about it.
• 40:41
  We sure can, yeah.
• 40:42
  Anytime.
• 40:43
  Let's well, let's talk about it right now if you'd like to.
• 40:45
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• 42:04
  We are visiting with Lieutenant Colonel Darren Gobb tonight.
• 42:08
  He was a flyer in the U.S.
• 42:10
  military.
• 42:10
  He was also a military planner, and it's great to have him back tonight.
• 42:14
  We've been talking about Iran this whole time.
• 42:17
  And one thing I like to talk about is the fact that we're in biblical times.
• 42:23
  You know, some people think the Bible, well, it's old historical book, and it was well, we're somewhere between Genesis and Revelation.
• 42:30
  If you know anything about the Bible, you know what happens in Revelation.
• 42:33
  That's the end.
• 42:34
  We haven't gotten to that as someone who believes in the Bible.
• 42:37
  I believe the words of the Bible.
• 42:38
  I believe it is inspired by the Holy Spirit coming from God.
• 42:41
  That's the way I believe, and I believe that Lieutenant Darren Gaub is the same way, Lieutenant Colonel Darren Gaub is the same way.
• 42:47
  So let's have a little conversation here as we end this hour about where all of this fits into the world from a biblical view.
• 42:58
  Yeah, and I think the first thing is to say that everything is biblical times.
• 43:03
  It always has been.
• 43:04
  Yeah.
• 43:04
  And always will be.
• 43:07
  And then go back to, okay, we are not to know the day or the hour of Christ's return.
• 43:13
  And um, we can certainly do our best to read the seasons, although we it's not healthy to dwell on them.
• 43:20
  Um can we come up with an argument as to why this could be leading that direction?
• 43:25
  Well, of course we could.
• 43:27
  I've read many of books though from 1918 and even earlier that they were making an argument for why the times of revelation were just around the corner then.
• 43:35
  But when you look at this, I mean there's a connection, and there's a very clear biblical connection to those who study it.
• 43:42
  And I'm teaching the book of Joshua right now, and we're going to go into some of the more of the old testament and um have taught the book of Daniel many times.
• 43:50
  And I go to all these sources.
• 43:53
  I think of Cyrus the Great, who sent uh the Jewish people back to their homeland to rebuild Jerusalem.
• 44:00
  Uh the connections between uh throughout the Middle East, from uh including Alexander the Great to Darius the Medes to the Persians to uh all of this.
• 44:11
  Uh and I and I see the potential for what is happening with the Abraham Accords, um, potentially settling this conflict with Iran as well into the into the future, that you have a coming piece in the Middle East that could set the conditions and those things that we could be looking for that could bring on the events of the book of Revelation.
• 44:34
  Absolutely, it could.
• 44:36
  But then again, it might not.
• 44:38
  Right.
• 44:38
  And we should all live our lives like yeah, and we should all live our lives like tomorrow's our last anyway, or today is.
• 44:45
  Yeah.
• 44:46
  And and so it really doesn't matter.
• 44:48
  But I think it is important to take a look at the Bible and and the prophecy that's in there and and try to figure out exactly maybe are we looking at this right now?
• 44:59
  And uh, I would say, you know, you mentioned um back a hundred years ago.
• 45:04
  It's almost every war, world war one, world war two, uh everybody goes to the Bible and they start looking for answers.
• 45:11
  Is this the end?
• 45:12
  And the apostles also asked Jesus the same question, and it was him that responded that you'll see wars and earthquakes, and he says, but those will just be the birthing pains.
• 45:24
  So that's just the beginning of labor, which means even then there's a long way to go in this world that's uh you know, a very old world with a lot of history in it, and we're still living it right now.
• 45:36
  I looked back who uh the book of Zachariah recently, because he was also a prophet in the old testament.
• 45:44
  You mentioned Daniel, love Daniel.
• 45:46
  If you really want to understand Revelation, you have to understand Daniel, because that is mostly what John was referencing in Revelation.
• 45:54
  So uh please do some homework on that and and learn about Daniel, and then maybe revelation will make a little bit more sense to you.
• 46:02
  But if you go back to Zachariah, and he was a prophet, he said that all of the nations will turn against Israel.
• 46:10
  Of course, America is a nation, and I think it's important also to study it from the perspective.
• 46:17
  These are I have no problem with people being against Netanyahu or Israel as a government and a nation.
• 46:25
  I have a little bit different perspective on that.
• 46:27
  So at some point, every nation is going to turn against Israel.
• 46:32
  So the question is, what is Israel?
• 46:34
  And and you and I were sharing some chats back and forth on text, and you know, I think Paul addressed this in Romans 11 when he said that uh, you know, the 12 bad branches were ripped off an olive tree, and 12 were grafted into it.
• 46:50
  The 12 be representing the Gentiles, the 12 apostles, while the 12 bad branches were the unbelievers of the Jews.
• 47:00
  There were the first church was Jewish people.
• 47:02
  There are still Jewish believers today.
• 47:05
  And together, we are Israel.
• 47:08
  We are God's chosen people.
• 47:09
  We are the believers in Jesus Christ.
• 47:12
  So we are Israel as uh God's people.
• 47:17
  Yeah, and I think it's it's also it's important to remind people how much of the Old Testament points to what's happening now.
• 47:24
  Um in general, and and I'll give a and this is the reason why I point to the book of Daniel and the study of the 70 weeks in the book of Daniel, yeah, and the the math has been done, and I've done it myself just to double check things.
• 47:37
  And the prophecies of the book of Daniel that was that resulted in or pointed to the re-establishment of the nation of Israel back in their homeland, got it right to the day to April 6th, 1948, from the day of the writing inside of the book of Daniel during the 70, 70 years of exile.
• 47:58
  Um it was made quite clear.
• 48:01
  So the people occupying Israel.
• 48:04
  Well, you know, God's not surprised by anything, right?
• 48:07
  Yeah.
• 48:07
  He knew this was coming, and and uh he even gave us uh parts of the old testament to point to exactly when this was going to happen, and it did.
• 48:18
  We shouldn't be surprised anymore by these kinds of things, but uh it is fascinating always to see the intimate accuracy of the predictions and prophecies of God, uh, because that's just who he is.
• 48:31
  Yeah, and I think we should very much tread lightly in the whole uh, you know, the the the new fangled idea, or maybe it's just the same old idea reframed of talking about Israel and you know everything is you know the Zionists' fault and all this kind of stuff.
• 48:52
  Uh well, you know, they are where they're supposed to be.
• 48:56
  It was prophesied that they would be there, and so be it.
• 49:00
  Um, and they're there in the book of Revelation, and that's the only name, it's the only nation actually mentioned.
• 49:05
  Yeah.
• 49:06
  So who where are the rest of them?
• 49:08
  No.
• 49:09
  We may never know until the very end if we're there to see it.
• 49:12
  Um again, we can't figure that.
• 49:15
  We don't know that part.
• 49:16
  Anybody who says they do know that part, obviously, I never actually read the warnings in the Bible about not trying to get that figured out.
• 49:22
  Yeah.
• 49:23
  Um it is more important to just be ready to go anytime.
• 49:26
  That's true.
• 49:27
  I agree.
• 49:27
  Yeah.
• 49:28
  I have said this before.
• 49:30
  I've said I've said this before on the show, Darren, that I believe that I was living in my end times from the moment I took my first breath.
• 49:37
  We live what, 70, 75 years.
• 49:39
  It's not not long considering how old this world is.
• 49:44
  So uh I think we always live like that way.
• 49:46
  I I'm not fearful of the end.
• 49:48
  I look forward to the end.
• 49:50
  I just think it's uh a different perspective to look at all of these things that are going on in the world.
• 49:55
  You look at the new world order, and this is what really made me think about Zachariah.
• 50:00
  Prophesying that all nations would turn against Israel.
• 50:03
  And please keep in mind, too, if you're listening to this, maybe you don't know.
• 50:06
  But Israel was actually two things.
• 50:09
  There was a northern kingdom and a southern kingdom in the Bible.
• 50:13
  So keep that in mind if you don't know about that.
• 50:15
  Go study it on your own.
• 50:17
  But America becoming part of the new world order.
• 50:20
  You know, when Mark Carney of Canada back in January says that they align with China in every way in this new world order.
• 50:31
  And we know what the World Economic Forum, they want a new world order with China's government as the model for it and surveillance and all the other things.
• 50:39
  And I start wondering about it then maybe by 2030, depending on who wins the presidency, maybe not.
• 50:48
  Maybe it is true that we have two wings and one bird, and it really doesn't matter.
• 50:52
  We end up in a new world order ourselves.
• 50:55
  And scripturally, that would kind of go along with what Zachariah was saying, that all nations would turn against Israel.
• 51:03
  Well, it's certainly possible.
• 51:04
  And there's a lot of other things that I mean, I guess there's an infinite amount of detail if people wanting to go into it to research it for themselves.
• 51:11
  But I you know I'll look at things like uh who's capable of mounting a 200 million person army that you see mentioned in the book of Revelation.
• 51:20
  Well, only China's capable of that.
• 51:23
  Uh and then you look at the history behind the language of the words Gog and Magog that are written in there as far as locations, uh and you start seeing how that aligns with uh Moscow and other regions throughout uh Western Russia, and it's just you know it's it's valuable to keep an eye on all of this to an extent in what I've taught people in the in my studies and then as I lead classes through people uh this books like Joshua and others is the message of all of that is not that we should be sitting here with our chess pieces and trying to figure out what day is it gonna be.
• 52:07
  It's the fact that God keeps his promises, regardless of what we do.
• 52:12
  Um his will will be fulfilled, his intent for what's gonna happen will happen regardless of us.
• 52:19
  And I'm glad you mentioned the northern and southern kingdoms of what happened in well, what became Israel in the north and Judah to the south.
• 52:29
  The reason why the Israel Israelites got carted off to Assyria in 722 BC was because they rebelled against God, and that's when it's not so good to be God's chosen nation.
• 52:43
  Uh, because he gave them very strict commandments of what they were supposed to do, and they didn't follow them.
• 52:48
  And they were warned.
• 52:49
  They were warned more than once once.
• 52:52
  More than once.
• 52:53
  The difference between uh Israel and Judah, well, Judah, the Southern Kingdom, they had at least eight kings who were pretty good and followed in the mind with the will of God, but eventually 586 BC, well, 605 and 586 BC, they get carted off to Babylon now, Iraq.
• 53:09
  Well, you then you quickly realize that sometimes it's not so special to be the chosen nation of God when you're disobedient.
• 53:18
  Yeah.
• 53:19
  Uh life gets a little challenging.
• 53:22
  So reading through the Bible and looking at the current events and realizing you know why Israel is what it is, why the Middle East looks like it does, and what it has the potential to be.
• 53:33
  When you have a biblical world view of things, there's no stress on any of this.
• 53:38
  And you realize who's in charge.
• 53:40
  Yeah, amen.
• 53:42
  Perfectly stated.
• 53:44
  Lieutenant Colonel Darren Gobb is his name.
• 53:46
  We're about to end this hour.
• 53:48
  I've enjoyed the conversation, every bit of it.
• 53:50
  I want to wrap this up.
• 53:52
  You mentioned the will of God.
• 53:56
  What is the will of God here in this that we're seeing right now in Iran?
• 54:01
  I know you can't really answer, but if you could, and with your background and knowing scripture and as a military planner, where is this going?
• 54:10
  Oh boy, man, if I knew that.
• 54:14
  There's a lot of things we could do with that kind of foresight.
• 54:16
  But you know, it's I I am reminded of a book series or a book I read a long time ago by an author by the name of Tim Lahay.
• 54:24
  And it was titled The Coming Peace in the Middle East, and it laid out a bunch of stuff about what the Middle East could look like in a peaceful environment and what what that could lead to for the nation of Israel.
• 54:34
  Um, you know, who really really knows, only God does.
• 54:39
  But when I see the Abraham Accords, I see these alliances potentially coming together, these of these various nations, and the opportunity to crack open the nation of Iran again and let the light shine in there once more.
• 54:55
  Um, yeah.
• 54:56
  I mean, it's pretty easy to make an argument why this could very well and easily be the seasons and the birthing pains that lead up to what happens in the book of Revelation, whether it be 10, 15 years, whatever that number is.
• 55:09
  Yeah, or a hundred.
• 55:10
  Yeah, you know, or a hundred.
• 55:12
  Yeah, it could be.
• 55:13
  We needn't fear it.
• 55:14
  No, not at all.
• 55:15
  We should be happy where we are.
• 55:17
  We should enjoy our lives and do the best we can every day to do what Jesus told us to do, which was God love to love God with all of our heart and love our neighbor, just like that.
• 55:29
  You're not supposed to love your neighbor any differently.
• 55:31
  Just like you love God, you're supposed to love your neighbor.
• 55:33
  I think some people uh you know forget that sometimes.
• 55:37
  That's how simple Jesus tried to make it with his uh words in telling us what to do.
• 55:43
  Darren, I know you have a book.
• 55:45
  I want you to tell everybody the name of the book, where they can go get it before we get finished here.
• 55:50
  Well, yeah, thanks for that opportunity.
• 55:51
  The name of the book is called Veritas Vincent.
• 55:54
  It stands for truth prevails.
• 55:56
  Uh eighty-three different essays on a number of topics about faith, family, freedom, uh, military diplomacy, international relations, you name it, it's all there.
• 56:04
  Uh, three to five-page essays or so.
• 56:06
  You can find it on Barnes and Noble, you can find it on Amazon.
• 56:10
  And if people reach out to me or they said sometimes people send it to my house and I'll sign it and mail it back to them.
• 56:16
  It's if they figure out a way to get a hold of me like that, I'm happy to do it.
• 56:19
  Do you charge them shipping for that?
• 56:21
  Or do you pay for that?
• 56:23
  I as I've done the same thing.
• 56:24
  I sometimes people send me seven dollars, so I don't have to pay for it.
• 56:27
  Coming up.
• 56:28
  It's up, it's up to them.
• 56:30
  I accept it if they send it.
• 56:31
  If they don't send it, then this is not about a prophet adventure.
• 56:34
  Otherwise, I'd be very disappointed.
• 56:36
  I understand.
• 56:37
  I do understand that.
• 56:38
  I would love everybody to read my book if I could give them all away, but I can't afford that either.
• 56:43
  Darren, thank you so much.
• 56:45
  His name is Lieutenant Darren Gobb, Lieutenant Colonel.
• 56:48
  I'm sorry, I keep leaving that off.
• 56:50
  Retired Lieutenant Colonel Darren Gobb.
• 56:52
  We'll look for him on Fox News, Newsmax, all over the place.
• 56:56
  I see you everywhere, but uh thank you so much, Darren, for joining us.
• 56:59
  Yeah, thanks, Booker.
• 57:00
  Good to join you in uh tomorrow, or I should say uh coming soon, I guess you could say Faulkner Focus on Wednesday morning will be my next news yet.
• 57:09
  So congratulations.
• 57:10
  They're gonna have me on for the whole hour off and on.
• 57:12
  That's great.
• 57:13
  Well, I'll look for you there.
• 57:14
  Everybody else will look for you, and don't forget that you were told two thousand years ago that you are the salt of the earth and salt without flavor, it has no value, so whatever you do, keep being salty.
• 57:26
  Have a great night.
• 57:28
  There is only one truth.
• 57:30
  You've been listening to The Truth Be Told with Booker Scott on America out loud.