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These NBA Teams Are Stuck… · Kenny For Real

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  Speaker 1: So last night I tweeted this, which three NBA teams
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  Speaker 1: do you feel are stuck in no men's land? We
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  Speaker 1: got over a thousand responses, and I'm gonna try my
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  Speaker 1: very best to talk about the teams that I saw
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  Speaker 1: more than any other one. But y'all know the NBA,
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  Speaker 1: it is so very fast changing. Things are always always moving.
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  Speaker 1: Teams that we see today July whatever, July fourteenth, twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty five as being in no man's land being a
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  Speaker 1: team with the bleakest future, next year around the same
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  Speaker 1: time we may have a whole different perspective. And if
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  Speaker 1: you don't believe me, this exact question was asked over
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  Speaker 1: on NBA Reddit four years ago and the number one
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  Speaker 1: most upvoted thing was the Indiana Pacers. And as you know,
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  Speaker 1: three years after this, they made the Conference finals, and
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  Speaker 1: four years after this they made the NBA Finals. In
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  Speaker 1: this timeframe, Sabonas still played for the team, and as
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  Speaker 1: you saw, Kevin Pritchard and the Indiana Pacers made a
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  Speaker 1: couple great trades, including bringing into Avery Saliburton, and now
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  Speaker 1: nobody will look at them as in no man's land
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  Speaker 1: after being in the NBA Finals. Another example, same posts
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  Speaker 1: Houston is up there. The Rockets trade and most of
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  Speaker 1: their assets to building my Harden than trading Harden for
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  Speaker 1: a fraction of the assets. I could see them not
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  Speaker 1: making the playoffs again for a decade. And as you know,
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  Speaker 1: the Houston Rockas made it this year as a two seed,
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  Speaker 1: and now they have Kevin Durant. Now this right here,
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  Speaker 1: this quote slash, this opinion was pretty widely believed throughout basketball.
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  Speaker 1: You trade one of your franchise goats and didn't get
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  Speaker 1: anything in return. But again, good management, decent ownership group,
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  Speaker 1: and just like that, we look at the Houston Rockets
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  Speaker 1: as one of the teams that could potentially do the
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  Speaker 1: thing this year. But maybe you're thinking that four years
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  Speaker 1: ago that's too long. What about just last season? The
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  Speaker 1: same exact question was asked this time around, the most
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  Speaker 1: up voted thing was the Atlanta Hawks.
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  Speaker 2: The Hawks were.
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  Speaker 1: Number one, and based on the twenty twenty five offseason,
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  Speaker 1: there's nobody that thinks that the Atlanta Hawk future is believed.
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  Speaker 1: There's nobody that believes that they're stuck in no man's land.
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  Speaker 1: With the addition of Zachary Reached, I say, first overall,
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  Speaker 1: pick them traded for Porzingis, Nikia, Alexanda Walker, Jaylen Johnson blossoming,
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  Speaker 1: and Trey Young still being Trey Young. That is a
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  Speaker 1: really competent team that should be way out of no
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  Speaker 1: man's land. The last example, one of the other top
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  Speaker 1: voted thing was the Detroit Pistons, And as y'all know,
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  Speaker 1: the Detroit Pistons just made the postseason and was really
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  Speaker 1: competitive against the Knicks, and people believe that that young
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  Speaker 1: Cores is good enough to could potentially take the next jump.
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  Speaker 2: So again, things are shifting. But there are a few teams.
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  Speaker 1: That were brought up a lot four years ago on
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  Speaker 1: an initial right at post one year ago, and damn it,
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  Speaker 1: they were brought up a ton this time around on
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  Speaker 1: my post, the first one being the Chicago Bulls. Yeah, yep,
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  Speaker 1: and just strolling through Chicago.
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  Speaker 2: Bulls, Bulls, Bulls, Bulls Bulls.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's what we got to start off, my
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  Speaker 1: Chicago Bulls being one of the teams stuck in no
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  Speaker 1: man slam, and I cannot agree more. I feel like
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  Speaker 1: we've had this conversation, me and you throughout the course
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  Speaker 1: of this channel's existence every year at least once, but
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  Speaker 1: let's do it again.
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  Speaker 2: One thing I do appreciate.
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  Speaker 1: Is that I've seen a lot of clips over the
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  Speaker 1: last week of people that have bigger voices in NBA
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  Speaker 1: media having conversations about the Bulls, whether it be Bill
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  Speaker 1: Simmons talking about the ownership group or Zach Lowe who's
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  Speaker 1: back to podcasts and him talking about the Bulls and
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  Speaker 1: not that any of it matters. Hell, I've been making
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  Speaker 1: hit pieces about the Bulls for a decade now and
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  Speaker 1: nothing has ever really changed. But it is great to
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  Speaker 1: see other people noticing that, Hey, the Bulls are one
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  Speaker 1: of the biggest markets in basketball, and nobody cares about
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  Speaker 1: winning other than the fans. And as Bulls fans were
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  Speaker 1: always trying to grasp for the thing that can save us,
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  Speaker 1: where I was trying to grasp for the thing to
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  Speaker 1: make us excited again. Right, Monus Buzzella Chicago's very own.
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  Speaker 1: I mean before the twenty twenty four to twenty twenty
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  Speaker 1: five seas or twenty twenty three twenty twenty four season,
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  Speaker 1: Modus Buzzelli's was looked at as the top pick in
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  Speaker 1: the draft. He has a terrible year in G League
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  Speaker 1: and he falls all the way to us at number eleven.
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  Speaker 1: Cool rookie season starts off pretty light, and then he.
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  Speaker 2: Starts to be in the starting lineup.
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  Speaker 1: Then he haves it's like fourteen points as a starter,
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  Speaker 1: or he's driving, he's defending, he's doing cool stuff, and
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  Speaker 1: now we're like, yeah, man him, Caleb Williams, Pete Crow, Armstrong,
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  Speaker 1: Connor Bodar, I guess Coachon Montgomery.
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  Speaker 2: For the White Sox.
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  Speaker 1: These guys have to save our franchises. And that's just
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  Speaker 1: unrealistic expectations for the kid. I ain't gonna lie to you.
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  Speaker 1: I got all the love of the world from out
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  Speaker 1: as bizealous, but I don't know if he's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: good enough to save the franchise, because the franchise has
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  Speaker 1: to be saved from the very top, because if you
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  Speaker 1: have a.
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  Speaker 2: Bad owner, there's not much you can really do.
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  Speaker 1: Bad owners hire bad gms and bad basketball operations people,
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  Speaker 1: and those people go in with the idea to make
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  Speaker 1: the owner happy. Some owners don't want to pay the
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  Speaker 1: luxury taxt. Some owners just want to sell tickets and
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  Speaker 1: guests when Chicago's always gonna sell tickets. And I think
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  Speaker 1: I mean this when I say that as long as
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  Speaker 1: the Ryansdore family owns the Chicago Bulls. Then Bulls fans
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  Speaker 1: will never get that glory that they got in the nineties,
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  Speaker 1: and a lot of us weren't really around to really
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  Speaker 1: live through the greatness that was the Jordan era. All
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  Speaker 1: we know is really disappointment. So yeah, man, it's bleak.
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  Speaker 1: It always starts to own the ship. But let's even
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  Speaker 1: talk about the roster construction and the people that are
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  Speaker 1: making the basketball decisions, because that's where it even gets worse.
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  Speaker 1: You have a bad owner and then you also have
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  Speaker 1: a general manager that doesn't do well at valuing assets.
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  Speaker 1: Then boy, you win for some trouble doash Getty as
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  Speaker 1: it today, is still a free agent, which I do appreciate,
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  Speaker 1: by the way. I would like to keep Josh Getty
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  Speaker 1: on the team, but there's no reason to pay somebody
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  Speaker 1: thirty million dollars if he doesn't have a market to
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  Speaker 1: get paid thirty million dollars. I hope that the Boys
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  Speaker 1: learned that lesson with Patrick Williams, who they paid early,
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  Speaker 1: didn't even let him hit free agency, and now he's trapped. Well,
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  Speaker 1: you can argue that he's always been drafted. Either way,
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  Speaker 1: he hasn't been very good. Josh Giddy's game lock reads
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  Speaker 1: so very interesting. Before the trade that line, he has
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  Speaker 1: months where he's shooting forty percent from the field, thirty
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  Speaker 1: percent from three and only averaging ten points. It was
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  Speaker 1: a really, really tough stretch. And then post All Star
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  Speaker 1: things started to look pretty good. After about twenty points
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  Speaker 1: per game, eight rebounds to assists. This month he shot
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  Speaker 1: fifty three percent from three. Let's be realistic. We know
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  Speaker 1: that that's not realistic. Then we continue to see him
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  Speaker 1: be great or for his own standard, great as a stretch,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, really good for what he could potentially do.
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  Speaker 1: Twenty points per game, seven or nine assists, about ten rebounds,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, the shooting splits are better than what
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  Speaker 1: they've ever really been, and he closes out the season
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  Speaker 1: really good. And there's basically amongst Bulls fandom there's a
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  Speaker 1: couple of different perspectives on Josh Gitty. Perspective. A from
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  Speaker 1: some fans says, hey, man, there's no coincidence that once
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  Speaker 1: we traded away some of the.
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  Speaker 2: Other ball handlers, the zach Lavine's and.
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  Speaker 1: So on and so forth, that Josh Gitty, when he
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  Speaker 1: had the ball in his hands, he put up these stats,
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  Speaker 1: and the Bulls were really competent and at least fun.
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  Speaker 1: So what he did and the second half of the
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  Speaker 1: season is probably a better indication of him really progressing
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  Speaker 1: because we gave him the keys, if you will. The
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  Speaker 1: other side of Bulls fandom is like, hey man, March
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  Speaker 1: basketball doesn't really exist. We should never pay somebody based
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  Speaker 1: on what they did in March because it.
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  Speaker 2: Doesn't really exist.
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  Speaker 1: And even if it does, even if this is Josh Gitty, right,
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  Speaker 1: he's gonna average next season, let's be nineteen eight and eight.
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  Speaker 2: What is the cost of that?
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  Speaker 1: And I don't mean the financial cost of that, I
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  Speaker 1: mean more of My biggest complaint with Josh Skitty as
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  Speaker 1: a basketball player is that obviously the things that he's
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  Speaker 1: good at, he's really good at. I got it tip
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  Speaker 1: my cap to the fact that he turned himself into
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  Speaker 1: at least an ok three point shooter. All of them
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  Speaker 1: are off the catch. He very really took shots off
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  Speaker 1: the dribble, by the way, But he you know, some
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  Speaker 1: of the things that he really struggled at last year
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  Speaker 1: in OKCE. He came to Chicago and he rounded out
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  Speaker 1: some of those games. You got to get from respect
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  Speaker 1: for that. But he's not so dynamic of an on
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  Speaker 1: ball player to make you feel like he deserves to
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  Speaker 1: have the ball all the time. But an encounter to
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  Speaker 1: that is that the only way to really get Josh
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  Speaker 1: Kitty to be really good is if he does have
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  Speaker 1: the ball all the time. Right, So the best version
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  Speaker 1: of him needs the ball. But that best version is
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  Speaker 1: still not that amazing. So where are we at with him?
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  Speaker 1: I've talked about this when we were doing like the
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  Speaker 1: Draft show. There were a couple bigger point guards in
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  Speaker 1: this year's draft, like a Yaeger. He pronounced it on
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  Speaker 1: TV the other day, Yet Yeager Yemen something like that,
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  Speaker 1: Yeger Yemmen.
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  Speaker 2: Who.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, he's a rookie, so I'm not trying to
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  Speaker 1: put no pressure on him. But the reason why that
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  Speaker 1: archetype is really tough to really translate to the NBN
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty five is that no matter how good of
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  Speaker 1: a pass you are, or no no matter how good
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  Speaker 1: of a you just overall facilitator you are, if you're
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  Speaker 1: not a threat off the dribble, then it just won't
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  Speaker 1: materialize anything great. Josh Getty is a phenomenal passer in
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  Speaker 1: the half court and in the full court, but if
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  Speaker 1: other teams are not respecting his jumper or he can't
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  Speaker 1: shoot off the dribble, then he won't be a toppying
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  Speaker 1: point guard. And at the end of the day, if
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  Speaker 1: you want the ball in somebody hands as much as
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  Speaker 1: Josh Getty needs the ball in his hands, you want
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  Speaker 1: him to be.
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  Speaker 2: A top end player.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe he's developing at this offseason, but I can only
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  Speaker 1: go on what he's doing right now this season. According
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  Speaker 1: to Synergy, these are off the dribble jump shots from
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  Speaker 1: Josh Getty. He shot thirty percent on those shots. Thirty percent,
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  Speaker 1: and you can see all the blue in this shot
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  Speaker 1: chart from the three point he shot thirty four percent
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  Speaker 1: and twenty four percent in this mit rain slash close area.
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  Speaker 1: That's just never going to be good enough as a
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  Speaker 1: lead ball handled. And listen, I'm not trying to make
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  Speaker 1: this all about Josh Giddy, but really what happens with
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  Speaker 1: Josh Gilly as a player and his development, It's like
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  Speaker 1: one of the most important things with the Chicago Bulls.
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  Speaker 1: But outside of him, we still have to figure out
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  Speaker 1: what's going on with Kobe White. Right so last year
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  Speaker 1: of his contract. He's played so great here in Chicago,
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  Speaker 1: but do you want to pay him so and so
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  Speaker 1: amount of money, and do you trust that the front
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  Speaker 1: office will pay him a good amount of money based
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  Speaker 1: on his production? This front office hasn't been the best
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  Speaker 1: at paying people what they're worth and also valuing an
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  Speaker 1: asset for what it is. Kobe White's one of my
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  Speaker 1: three favorite players in all the basketball I got no
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  Speaker 1: choice but to have love for my boy CW. But
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  Speaker 1: I also do recognize that, like for the future of
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  Speaker 1: the franchise, maybe last season would have been a great
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  Speaker 1: time to potentially trade him away because he had an
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  Speaker 1: extra year on his contract and he was having like
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  Speaker 1: a career year. And what the Bulls have done over
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  Speaker 1: the last couple of seasons is basically wait until a
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  Speaker 1: player was on the last year of their deal with
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  Speaker 1: they hold nearly zero value, and then you trade them
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  Speaker 1: away for one the one kind of deal. So it's
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  Speaker 1: very grim and I got no choice but the route enough, Bulls.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go to the next thing. I guess we can
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  Speaker 1: go Bulls West with the Sacramento Kings. Hey, listen, if
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  Speaker 1: there's any silver line into the Sacramento Kings going into
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  Speaker 1: this season, because y'all know I'm an optimistic guy. Shout
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  Speaker 1: out team enjoyed basketball. I'm an optimistic guy for every
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  Speaker 1: team except for my own. Nee Clifford is a real
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  Speaker 1: basketball player. I don't know exactly what that looks like.
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  Speaker 1: I saw people giving j Doug comps on the timeline
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  Speaker 1: Yesterdam like, yeah, this is true sumer League stuff. But
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  Speaker 1: I do believe Nee Clifford is a real guy. But
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  Speaker 1: based on all of the decisions they've made recently and
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  Speaker 1: all of the rumors that we've seen around them, it
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  Speaker 1: just nobody knows exactly what the hell they're trying to do.
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  Speaker 1: Right from the moment they decided it's a trade for
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  Speaker 1: Zach Lavine, the question.
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  Speaker 2: Was, oh, oh, okay, now what.
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  Speaker 1: And I think I did them somewhat of a disservice
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  Speaker 1: when we made that video about their trade with dearon
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  Speaker 1: Fox and in real time, I kind of just completely
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  Speaker 1: forgot about the lever the lack of leverage that they
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  Speaker 1: had when your your guy requestioned. The trade basically has
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  Speaker 1: one destination, and it is to the San Antonio Spurs.
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  Speaker 1: You have no choice but to kind of accept the
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  Speaker 1: assets that are given to you and the player that
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  Speaker 1: was with Zach Levine. But given the fact that Zach
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  Speaker 1: Lavine and the Martin Roseen literally played together for three
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  Speaker 1: seasons before that. It makes no sense to me that
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  Speaker 1: even if Dan or Fox wanted to go to the
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  Speaker 1: San Antonio Spurs, that.
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  Speaker 2: We would just do what the Bulls just did.
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  Speaker 1: If there's one team I never want to replicate, it's
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  Speaker 1: the goddamn Bulls and the King's like, you know what,
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  Speaker 1: European center, zach Lavine, zach Lavine, de Martin Rosen, a
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  Speaker 1: Kobe White type of player in Malik Monk, a four
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  Speaker 1: man or wing that looks good and in.
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  Speaker 2: Other games he looks terrible.
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  Speaker 1: Patrick Williams and Key Murray and granted Keigy Murray's leagues
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  Speaker 1: ahead of Patrick Williams will getting wrong. But it really
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  Speaker 1: turned into the sacra of the Chicago Bulls Bulls West
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  Speaker 1: and now you get the rumors about them potentially trying
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  Speaker 1: to pop off the Martin rose and even if that
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  Speaker 1: means they traded away Malik Monk, Malik Monk at the
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  Speaker 1: Detroit Pistons connection and then you got Devin.
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  Speaker 2: Carter and trade talks.
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  Speaker 1: He just look great and some of the I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: they probably downe and now he just hit like a
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  Speaker 1: thirty ball against the Bulls, but there's there has not
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  Speaker 1: been a decision that the Kings have made over the
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  Speaker 1: last year that I'm like that's the right one other
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  Speaker 1: than the Clifford draft, which based on where they got him,
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  Speaker 1: I think that's an absolute steal. And then you got
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  Speaker 1: the fact that Demntas Sabonus, who's already extended this year,
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  Speaker 1: he's forty two million dollars, next year's forty five million dollars,
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  Speaker 1: and he's forty eight million dollars after that.
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  Speaker 2: I've been very open about this. I'm not the huge
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  Speaker 2: to Mantsaabonus fan.
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  Speaker 1: I respect him as a player, I respect his game,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm thinking about trying to be able to contender.
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  Speaker 1: I just don't know how much I like de montsa
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  Speaker 1: Bonus as my five man. I feel like that's is
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  Speaker 1: that okay? I think that's okay, right, And I especially
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  Speaker 1: don't like him if he's gonna be used as his
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  Speaker 1: hub with the pieces that are around them.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, no man's land.
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  Speaker 1: Feels like the perfect way to describe the Sacramento Kings
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  Speaker 1: right now, Like I did this segment on my podcast,
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  Speaker 1: but they have so much money into these players that,
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  Speaker 1: like you don't even really think about, right, Zach Levine
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  Speaker 1: is technically on his last year, but he's got a
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  Speaker 1: player option for about fifty million. Why the hell would
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  Speaker 1: he say no to that? You already talked about the
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  Speaker 1: de Montsa bonus thing. The Marti Ross contract is actually
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  Speaker 1: not a bad contract whatsoever. Twenty four million dollars for
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  Speaker 1: the Martin rows and feels like a steal based on
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  Speaker 1: his production. Malik Monk is extended, Dennis Shrewd that just
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  Speaker 1: brought in for forty five million dollars. You gotta pay
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  Speaker 1: Keith and Murray who's about to hear restrict the free agency?
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  Speaker 1: Devin Carr, Like, they just have so much money tied
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  Speaker 1: into certain players and it's like, where do you go
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  Speaker 1: from here?
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  Speaker 2: And I just don't know the answer to that, just
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  Speaker 2: don't know the answer to We got ja. I'm saying Miami, Miami,
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  Speaker 2: and Miami.
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  Speaker 1: That's got one point two k likes that might be
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  Speaker 1: the most like to be seeing on this post.
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  Speaker 2: So let's talk about the Miami.
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  Speaker 1: I will say I like the trade that they just
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  Speaker 1: did recently, Like it doesn't put them into contention, but
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  Speaker 1: getting Norman Powell for basically nothing is a win, even
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  Speaker 1: if Norman Pal's year last year was unsustainable, which it
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  Speaker 1: might be at the age of thirty two. He's so
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  Speaker 1: much better than any of the option that you had
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  Speaker 1: right there, and the fact that you gave up Kevin
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  Speaker 1: Love and what slow mode. You didn't even give up
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  Speaker 1: the there was a second round pick in the trade.
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  Speaker 1: I thought they the ones that gave him the second
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  Speaker 1: They didn't give the SCD round pick. So they got
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  Speaker 1: a guy who just was like a borderline All Star
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  Speaker 1: before he dealt with his injury, So that is a win.
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  Speaker 1: You do believe that they're missing certain type of players
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  Speaker 1: on the team though, like and maybe Davion Mitchell is
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  Speaker 1: this guy. Maybe Kaspar Jakashonis can turn into this guy.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, but Bam just had basically his worst
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  Speaker 1: season since he was a rookie, and I'm hoping that's
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  Speaker 1: more just having a down year versus him being this player.
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: Like there are a lot of things and like the
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: analytics that I just really don't like about BAM's last season.
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: The lack of getting to the.
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: Ram, the more mid range jump shots, the more flow
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: to range jumpers, instead of him being this dog get
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: into the basket like he was in the first couple
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: years of his career, but also he just didn't really
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: play too much with a true point. And again, Davion
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: kind of shows flash of this and maybe it will
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: end up being him, but the Norman palat of this
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: and definitely don't make me feel like bam on thea
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: Biyo is about to get set up more. Miami's also
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: in his worst spot that there's been so many rumors
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: about them potentially getting Tyler Hero this big ass contract,
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: And something that we did on the show is like, bro,
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: what is your team if bam Adebayo's making more than
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: fifty million dollars annually and Tyler Hero is too. Both
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: of them are five basketball players. Hell, bam Minbajo is
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: a great defensive player in the offense. Again, last year
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: wasn't so good, but he's been good enough to give
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: you twenty and elite defense almost on a nightly basis
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: before last season. But that said, both of these guys
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: are better. It's like number twos and number threes versus
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: being number ones. You paying them one hundred million dollars
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: annually together, then where could you even go? The reason
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: why Miami Miami gets the benefit of the dow compared
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: to these other teams, because we've seen Miami be in
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: similar situations where you felt like, oh man, old man
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: pat Riley and lost his fastball and the boom just
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: like that.
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: They're a good team again, right.
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: The Kings and the Bulls don't get that level of
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: respect from us to believe that they can flip it
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: on the switch, while Miami kind of does. Now, some
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: of the things that have happened in Miami have been
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: like fools gold obviously not fools gold, that's the wrong word,
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: have been like, I don't know. I think it's kind
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: of tricked the front office to coach the staff to
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: think that they are closer than what they are. Right
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: when you become the eight seed and make it to
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: the NBA Finals and like you were there, right, But
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: there is no way in our minds as NBA fans
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: that we thought that that Miami he team would be
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: able to replicate doing some of those things. They couldn't
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: be a team that clas to do the regular season
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: and said, hey, postseason is here, especially since Jimmy not there.
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: Postseasons here, we could get back on their thing. And
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: they probably felt like they were closer to contention and
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: closer to a championship than what their roster showed. And
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: now that Jimmy Butler's out the door. But even that said,
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: I still do like a lot of the players in
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: their team. Like again, BAM down season, I still a
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: BAM fan. I think Tyler Herro is just just an
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: all star. He's a He's a very particular archetype that
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: we've seen. I mean, he's a little he's above. He's
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: on a different tier of some of those players. But
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: like this archetype of two guard, you know, you know,
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: they costplam as a one. Occasionally, these two guards score
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: first average to below average playmakers. Teams are kind of
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: just storing them dudes around right now. Nobody wants this
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: type of player. The Jalen Greens, the Norman Pals, the
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: Jordan Pools, all of these dudes just got traded this offseason,
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: right And Tyler Herrow again is on a different tier
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: to some of those dudes. But the archetype is still
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: the archetype. And if other teams are throwing this archetype away,
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: and we're about to give this archetype fifty million dollars
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: owned by Sons at three point five likes on the
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: on the three teams that we mentioned, Oh my god,
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: everybody's in the same boat.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: Talking about the Raptors did come up a decent amount,
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: and some of the other names. I'm gonna give them
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: the benefit of the doubt.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: Like Charlotte got mentioned a good amount of times, the
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: Wizards got mentioned a good amount of times. I'm giving
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: them the benefit of the doubt. Maybe they don't deserve it.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: But like with the new ownership groups and the new
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: general managing, I kind of like some of the stuff
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: that the Charlotte Hornets have done. Now will that mean
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: that they're about to go into another rebuild within their rebuild?
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: Maybe?
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: But sometimes you got the flush the deck when the
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: previous regime just wasn't doing it the right way. What
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: does that mean for LaMelo Ball? I don't really know
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: the Washington Wizards. I also just really like a lot
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: of the deals they've done. They've kind of you know,
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: they have a ton of young players and a few
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: good amount of like veterans in that locker room between
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: Chris Middleton, Season McCallum, and Marcus Smart. They just traded
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: away Kelly Olennock, But I don't know how they balance
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: that rotation, by the way, but I feel more optim
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: missing about what the Wizards can be in the near
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: future versus some of these other teams. Right I think
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: they are rebuilding, but we have a direction for that team,
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: and as some of those young guys on that roster
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: are really intriguing to me, Like Trey Johnson's maybe my
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: favorite player from the twenty twenty five draft class. You
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: gotta be a number two, but I think that out
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: of all the young players they have on the roster,
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: he's the one with the upside to make you think
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: he can be an All Star. And there's a couple
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: of guys on the team with a lot of upside,
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: but he's the one that makes me like, I'm watching
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: me so smooth, so butter he plays at his own
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: tempo that I'm like, Man, if there's anybody on this
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: young team that can be an All Star one day,
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: Trey Johnson kind of could be that. Obviously, Alex sarr
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: is blocking every shot in existence. So like, I'm giving
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: them more of a benefit of the doubt than some
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: of these other teams because at least with their new regime,
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: they have a direction. They've brought in second round picks
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: in a first round pick that ended up being Will
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: Riley for just taking on bad contracts, and the next
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: year they're gonna have, like I don't forget the number
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: one hundred million dollars in cap space to do the
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: same thing, take on bad contracts, get first round draft capitol,
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: and just keep doing this until they draft the players
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: that they think are good enough to help them do
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: the thing. There's also another direction for them that I
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: don't know if many people are talking about that with
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: that one hundred something million, I forget the exact number
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: of million dollars that they might have an open cap
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: space next season, they may try to do the same
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: shit that the Houston Rockets did. Instead of using that,
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: like I mentioned, to bring in bass salary, they may
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: overpay for some like really good dudes like what frev
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: and Vliet was or Dylan Brooks ended up being. And
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: that's not even I didn't even think about that actually
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: hurt that on the podcast or shout out to I
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: think it might have been Robed ma Hooney, shout out
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: to Rob Mahoney. That was not even a thing that
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: I saw in my brain. So like, yeah, so that's
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: a possibility as well so again giving them the benefit
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: of doubt.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll entit there, in it there.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: I think those are the three teams that are most
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: in no man's land. The Suns came up a little bit, yeah,
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: but who else