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FIRST LOOK: The CW's Teen Drama "The Gargoyle Journal" · Artists on Artists on Artists on Artists

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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to artists on Artists on Artists on artists. Boy,
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  Speaker 1: Do you know why they call it show business? I
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  Speaker 1: always wonder that. Welcome back to artists on artists on
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  Speaker 1: artists on artists. This week we sit down with the
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  Speaker 1: cast and creators of c w's The Gargoyle Journal, one of.
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  Speaker 4: The hottest new teen dramas to hit the television space.
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  Speaker 4: Gargoyle Journal tells the story of a young girl who
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  Speaker 4: moves to town and finds that the sexy folks around
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  Speaker 4: her happen to be gargoyles.
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  Speaker 5: The CW is a network that all networks look up
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  Speaker 5: to for bringing hot, fresh and likable things to the
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  Speaker 5: teen dramas everywhere.
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  Speaker 2: So get those ears ready and make sure you bring
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  Speaker 2: a little towel because it might get a little sweaty
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  Speaker 2: in there. It's hot. Let's listen in HI.
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  Speaker 1: My name is Stephanie Christford. I am the creator, writer,
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  Speaker 1: showrunner and EP. Gosh, I just do it all of
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  Speaker 1: the cwu's the Gargoyle Journal.
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  Speaker 2: What's up. I'm Chester Church. I play Joe Nava, one
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  Speaker 2: of the students and who's also one of the Gargoyles.
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  Speaker 6: And my name is David Wimbley. I play Father Gargoyle.
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  Speaker 6: His name is Andago and I'm happy.
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  Speaker 7: To be here.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, I'm Randon Maker and I play the one, the
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  Speaker 5: only Jessica.
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  Speaker 1: It's so great to have everybody here to, you know,
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  Speaker 1: finally see our little baby come to life.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, it's and I got to give it up
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  Speaker 2: to you. Stephanie. Thank you for writing this because you
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  Speaker 2: know that's your pen on paper. I don't think we'd
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  Speaker 2: be here probab Stephanie.
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  Speaker 5: There, thank you.
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  Speaker 1: And it's funny you mentioned God because as a woman,
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  Speaker 1: uh raised in a some would call born again Christian cult,
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  Speaker 1: I had a lot a lot of you know, experience
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  Speaker 1: with shame and guilt surrounding sexuality, and so Gargoyle Journal
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  Speaker 1: was really just something I wrote in the darkness as
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  Speaker 1: like a scared teen and so to finally be able
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  Speaker 1: to see you know, some of frankly the hottest teenage
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  Speaker 1: actors I've ever seen. If I can say that portraying
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  Speaker 1: these roles. It's really brought me a lot of peace
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  Speaker 1: and healing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I love to hear that. I really love
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  Speaker 2: to hear that, you know, because for me, what a
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  Speaker 2: gargoyle is is bravery. What a gargoyle is is stone,
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  Speaker 2: What a gargoyle is is big teeth, big eyes, and
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  Speaker 2: also what a gargoyle is is brave.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I'm so glad you feel that way because the
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  Speaker 1: amount of executives who I you know, I said, I
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  Speaker 1: have this vision, I have this vision of these hot,
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  Speaker 1: sensual gargoyles, and they said, no, that's not sexy. Vampires
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  Speaker 1: are sexy, you know, were wolves can be sexy. Gargoyles
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  Speaker 1: aren't sexy. Well, I think take a look at this cast.
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  Speaker 1: I think we can beg to differ, right.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, you know, I have never been called sexy by anyone,
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  Speaker 4: So this has been very exciting to be involved in
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  Speaker 4: the cast and to be included. I've always been cast
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  Speaker 4: as kind of nasty men, and it's really fun to
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  Speaker 4: be fun seen as sexy as the father Cogoyle on Diago.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just I would say, it's really fun
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  Speaker 2: to be included in that. And I know, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I'm working really closely with Jessica every day and it's
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  Speaker 2: just been a delight. It's been fantastic. You know, Jessica
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  Speaker 2: played Jessica so well. I'm sorry, her real name is Branda,
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  Speaker 2: but I can only see her as Jessica. You know, Jessica,
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  Speaker 2: you want to jump in or what.
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  Speaker 5: I'm so happy.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the chemistry between you two is undeniable. We've
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  Speaker 1: gotten a lot of outside feedback that says, you know,
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  Speaker 1: these people were so perfectly cast because they a not
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  Speaker 1: only have this undeniable sexual tension, they also really, really
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  Speaker 1: really look like gargoyles, and that's something not a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people see the sensuality in that. But I was
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  Speaker 1: very clear when we started casting, I want to see
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  Speaker 1: people who look like gargoyles.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. What did you think when you were like thinking
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  Speaker 2: about that, What what does a gargoyle look like for you?
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  Speaker 1: To me, a gargoyle is packed packed, A gargoyle is dense.
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  Speaker 1: To me, a gargoyle is sturdy. A gargoyle has a
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  Speaker 1: busted face. A gargoyle has.
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  Speaker 2: So you just when we came in and casting, you
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  Speaker 2: thought that's what we looked like.
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  Speaker 4: We just talked about how sexy we were so I'm confused.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, those.
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  Speaker 4: Are not sexy things. Dense, it is not sexy.
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  Speaker 2: I know, like my skin is gray, pigmented, but I
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  Speaker 2: thought that was more of like a thing I was
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  Speaker 2: working on.
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  Speaker 7: You know.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to look tan. I want to look gray,
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  Speaker 2: you know.
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  Speaker 1: And that is what makes all of you, you're you're
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  Speaker 1: the dream. Let's be clear. I went, I went through
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  Speaker 1: thousands of the CW's typical roster of people they send
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  Speaker 1: in and they tape for these rolls, and I said, no,
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  Speaker 1: that's a vampire. You're sending me a vampire. Stop sending
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  Speaker 1: me vampires when I want gargoyles. And that was something
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  Speaker 1: I was very firm on. I need a dnse tightly packed,
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  Speaker 1: one ton little guy.
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  Speaker 5: I would.
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  Speaker 7: Just speaking. I haven't heard her speak more than sorry.
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  Speaker 5: I just I'm I'm so shy. I hate these interviews.
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  Speaker 5: I'm one of those actresses that doesn't like to talk.
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  Speaker 5: It was crazy because my wraps sent me the part
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  Speaker 5: right after I had been the cover of teen Vogue,
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  Speaker 5: and I know they're filming this interview I did. I
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  Speaker 5: was in an oscar deal rent to dress and I
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  Speaker 5: was sitting like this crouchy with both my knees up
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  Speaker 5: and that's gargoyle.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, like that and meek smile.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, Mathiasca de la rented dress. Yes, And it's just
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  Speaker 5: funny because this is the way I normally sit. And
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  Speaker 5: my reps called me and they were like, the cover
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  Speaker 5: is amazing. We also have the perfect role for you.
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  Speaker 5: And if you were going to tell me it was gargoyles,
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  Speaker 5: I would have cried and been like, this can't be
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  Speaker 5: my big break to be a female gargoyle.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, And that's the thing. There are very few
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  Speaker 1: female gargoyles out there, and so that was something I
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  Speaker 1: really wanted to do, not just for me, but for women.
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to give women a gift, and that is
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  Speaker 1: the representation of female gargoyles on screen. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: I gotta say, Miranda, you absolutely nailed it. The second
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  Speaker 1: you crouched in that audition tape, I knew, I knew
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  Speaker 1: it was you.
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  Speaker 4: And that's just how I like to say, to say
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  Speaker 4: that the amount of cloth set chairs that you busted
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  Speaker 4: through because you crouched with your feet on those chairs,
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  Speaker 4: those directors style chairs, the way you would bust them
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  Speaker 4: and they'd fold in it was.
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  Speaker 3: It was a lot to watch for the way I sit.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like you went through three just during one
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  Speaker 4: scene that I was shooting, because the noise.
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  Speaker 7: Was loud, and it took.
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  Speaker 4: A lot to each time.
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  Speaker 5: Each time I thought I'd be like, oh God, and
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  Speaker 5: I just.
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  Speaker 4: Helped you so much and gave you another chair for
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  Speaker 4: you to break. Everyone always no one told you to
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  Speaker 4: not do that.
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  Speaker 2: It was great.
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  Speaker 5: It just it makes my ass look better when it
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  Speaker 5: was like that.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, I got into a ton of you know,
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  Speaker 1: I was talking to the production manager all the time, saying,
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  Speaker 1: We've got to get these gargoyles some stone chairs. They
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  Speaker 1: we can't keep going through these. I mean, this is ridiculous.
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  Speaker 7: And I'm gonna be honest. I'm gonna be honest.
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  Speaker 4: I'm glad we didn't go with that either.
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  Speaker 2: For the record, I'm glad we For the record, for me,
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  Speaker 2: I'm glad we had just regular chairs.
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  Speaker 4: I wish we were going to a rock situation with
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  Speaker 4: the chairs stones.
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  Speaker 1: I wish stones, Thank you, Miranda. I wish we had stones.
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  Speaker 1: And I know it's acting isn't comfortable. I don't believe
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  Speaker 1: that acting should be comfortable, you know, I think should
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  Speaker 1: be about the character, but agree to disagree anyway.
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  Speaker 5: It's just it's it's honoring to have every female written
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  Speaker 5: for our screen, and I think the CW does that.
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  Speaker 5: We're getting to see females be hungry and nasty for blood,
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  Speaker 5: and we get to see females crouch and sit like
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  Speaker 5: a freaking weirdo.
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  Speaker 2: Like me, because that's kind of the fun thing. It's like,
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  Speaker 2: this school has a ton of hot people, and they're
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  Speaker 2: the hot people are the gargoyles. And when Jessica or
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  Speaker 2: Miranda's character Jessica comes into the school, you know, she's quirky,
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  Speaker 2: she's not the usual hot person, but she's still really hot,
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  Speaker 2: you know. Like I think, objectively we can, I.
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  Speaker 1: Mean, but I think I speak for myself and the
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  Speaker 1: CW network. We would never cast an uggo.
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  Speaker 2: No, definitely, yes, I'll hear that.
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  Speaker 7: I'd love to hear when you guys say that.
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  Speaker 4: Really it's nice for me.
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  Speaker 5: To hear, and I think it's good for Hollywood to hear.
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  Speaker 5: Can you elaborate like.
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  Speaker 2: Well, because I want to also just jump in and
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  Speaker 2: cut off Stephanie here purposefully and say.
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  Speaker 1: That thank you.
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  Speaker 5: And thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's just I will say I've been in this Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: no problem anytime. Like my one of my favorite things
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  Speaker 2: to do is, you know, make a stand like this, Stephanie, Sorry,
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  Speaker 2: did you want to go? I'll go?
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  Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.
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  Speaker 2: This industry has been tough for hot men, hot white men, specifically,
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  Speaker 2: Like I've been in this industry for four years and
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  Speaker 2: when I started, it was completely different. I'm I'm a
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  Speaker 2: good looking guy. I can book, I could get out there, book, book, book.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I've done my series regulars before, I've done
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  Speaker 2: my pilots before, and then about two years in it
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  Speaker 2: started drying up, and I thought, it's not me. It's
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  Speaker 2: just it can't be me. So I thought they're probably
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  Speaker 2: stopped trying to cast hot people. So you guys making
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  Speaker 2: the statement CW to only ever cast hot people. I'm
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  Speaker 2: behind you one percent. I'm behind you one.
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  Speaker 4: One thing I would like to bring up that I
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  Speaker 4: thought was incredible. Are we allowed to give away much
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  Speaker 4: of the plot of the pilot of the First Team?
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  Speaker 2: I think so.
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  Speaker 1: I think that. I think that if you haven't seen
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  Speaker 1: the pilot, I mean, you're missing out.
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  Speaker 3: That's on you to watch.
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  Speaker 7: Well, well, we'll talk about it.
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  Speaker 4: There's a very incredible scene when Jessica, you know, finally
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  Speaker 4: does come in with the gargoyles.
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  Speaker 7: Of the high school and there is the.
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  Speaker 4: Transformation in which they turn her into a gargoyle. And
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  Speaker 4: I thought the scene was in one word.
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  Speaker 2: Frightening amazing, and also that they did it in the pilot.
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  Speaker 2: You'd think that'd be a whole series arc. It was,
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  Speaker 2: but instead it was pushed it to the top.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, the middle twenty five minutes. It was a lot,
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  Speaker 4: and we got to it fast. And it's a forty
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  Speaker 4: three minute episode, so.
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  Speaker 2: She's brand new to the show. In twenty five minutes
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  Speaker 2: in she's a gargoyle. Yeah, immediately.
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  Speaker 5: I think it's so important that you establish it fast,
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  Speaker 5: and that probably happens.
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  Speaker 4: Let's get to it.
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  Speaker 1: We've on the series not to name names Twilight. Well,
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  Speaker 1: tease that out to hate hate it, hate hate it.
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  Speaker 1: My inner gargoyle just comes out about Twilight and how
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  Speaker 1: fucked that is. Stephanie, will it killing it?
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  Speaker 2: Name it and hate it, name it, hate it, Gargoyle Journal.
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  Speaker 7: We like that one.
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  Speaker 2: That's good.
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  Speaker 1: We do like that one. That's the one that we made. Okay, anyway,
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  Speaker 1: I would love to show that scene really quickly because
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  Speaker 1: I think that's sort of what this whole series is about.
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  Speaker 1: So this is when this is twenty three minutes into
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  Speaker 1: the pilot, when Jessica becomes a gargoyle.
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  Speaker 7: No jes.
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  Speaker 8: The process is, I don't feel well, father, gargo, I
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  Speaker 8: don't feel well.
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  Speaker 6: We're feeling your body with submit.
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  Speaker 3: Father.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think this is all right? Do you think
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  Speaker 2: she's ready?
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  Speaker 6: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: She just got to the school just a day ago.
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  Speaker 5: I don't care how long I've been in this town
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  Speaker 5: or been in this school. I am ready, father, I'm ready.
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  Speaker 5: Throw me in there.
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  Speaker 7: We feel her with cement. Well, let the dragon wings emerge.
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  Speaker 7: If she is true of gargoyle, the simon confuse with
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  Speaker 7: the skin and the wings will become flappable.
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  Speaker 8: Ra I am a gargoyo, Jessica, I'm the hot prom
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  Speaker 8: king gargoy, and I would wonder if you want.
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  Speaker 1: To have sex with me?
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  Speaker 5: You are also a gargoyle.
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  Speaker 1: Is the school full of them?
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  Speaker 5: Yes?
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  Speaker 1: We wanted to get into it right away.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, I love that.
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  Speaker 5: I seen so much. I seemed so sweet.
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  Speaker 2: And it's kind of fun because that the gargol that
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  Speaker 2: just comes in right at the end there sets up
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  Speaker 2: kind of what the season's about, which is prompt? Yes?
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  Speaker 2: And where if Jessica's going to go to prom, who
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  Speaker 2: She's going to go to prom with? You know, because
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  Speaker 2: my character Jonava, you know, he is kind of an outcast.
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  Speaker 2: He's like kind of like I know that Gargol said
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  Speaker 2: he was the bad boy, but I just always thought
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  Speaker 2: Jonava was the bad boy because he's kind of an outcast,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Miranda.
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  Speaker 7: Oh, sorry, Stephanie. I was wondering.
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  Speaker 4: I wanted to ask you something I've I've always been
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  Speaker 4: wondering this. Why did you have such incredibly creatively named characters.
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  Speaker 7: Like Jonava and Andiago?
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  Speaker 4: And then you know that character that came in right
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  Speaker 4: at the end of the second act of the pilot
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  Speaker 4: was named hot Gargoyle prom king why did you make
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  Speaker 4: that choy?
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  Speaker 5: So, yes, that was the breakdown, but that's the role name.
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  Speaker 1: No, that was the name that.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, the breakdown said Jeremy.
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  Speaker 1: It goes back. Yes, the breakdown was Jeremy, but that
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  Speaker 1: was just code name because you don't want to give
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  Speaker 1: away all your secrets. You know, you have every actor
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  Speaker 1: in town when you're doing a big cattle call for
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  Speaker 1: hot Gargoyles, and you don't want to give it all away.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was crazy because I almost went out for
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  Speaker 2: that and it did. I just got a breakdown. Usually
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  Speaker 2: you get like like quirky or hot. This this all
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  Speaker 2: it said was break Jeremy hard people.
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  Speaker 1: You're really trying to attract Jeremies to the role. But
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  Speaker 1: then to go back to the naming hot Gargoyle prom king,
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  Speaker 1: it goes back to Comedia del arte. Right, we're talking stereotypes.
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  Speaker 1: We're talking archetypes. We're talking people who just are what
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  Speaker 1: they are. We're talking recognizable tropes. We all know the
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  Speaker 1: stereotypes surrounding hot Gargoyle prom kings, right. I mean they're ladies, men,
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  Speaker 1: they're they're they're football players. They're jerky, full of cement,
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  Speaker 1: and they love jerky at night.
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  Speaker 2: They eat women and protect church.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, and they all have some sort of epiglottal disorder.
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  Speaker 1: They gurgle so intensely in the night.
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  Speaker 4: This brings me to another question. I wanted to know
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  Speaker 4: where you got all of your gargoyle research and and
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  Speaker 4: what specific type of law are you're using for this
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  Speaker 4: television ship.
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  Speaker 5: Or I have another just to piggyback off of that,
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  Speaker 5: What gives you the right to tell the story of
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  Speaker 5: the Gargoyle.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I mean fair question, Miranda, I will be honest.
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  Speaker 5: I am well, did that come across accusatory?
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  Speaker 2: And I hate to cut both of you off, but
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  Speaker 2: I'm going.
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  Speaker 7: To please do, please do.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, I think real art an artist should be
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  Speaker 2: able to talk about whatever they want. They should be
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  Speaker 2: able to write whatever they want. If Stephanie wants to
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  Speaker 2: write about gargoyles, that's great. If I want to write
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  Speaker 2: about I don't know indigenous people in Australia, that's great too.
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  Speaker 2: And maybe my pilot should have been picked up.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, Big Red Rock, are you talking about that one?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? You read it? Thank you for reading it.
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  Speaker 7: I did read that.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, that had a reputation as being pretty extensively offensive
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  Speaker 1: to everyone involved.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I didn't see it, but I got a
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  Speaker 2: lot of feedback, and usually with feedback I just say no.
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  Speaker 5: I got the SAG don't work email for Big Red.
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  Speaker 4: Rock, and it was still in the script phase when
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  Speaker 4: that went around, which was kind of wild.
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  Speaker 2: It was I wrote a first draft, I was setting
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  Speaker 2: it up for notes, I was saying no to all
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  Speaker 2: the notes, and SAG sent that email and I was
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  Speaker 2: just dead in the water. There is no.
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  Speaker 3: Recovery attached to this.
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  Speaker 1: This script is not in development, but we want to
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: make sure then nobody goes anywhere near this and it hurts.
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: Those films are helpful as an actor, and that's why
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: I pay my dues.
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: I've been working on every single one. I've been working
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: on every single one of those projects when those emails
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: go out, so he will.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: Pick every sag doll you're accidentally accidentally.
• 18:07
  Speaker 7: This is a little bit of my lot in life.
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: I'm so excited to be on Goggle of the Journal
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: because I've been on so many what I would call
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: scam productions. I have been tricked so many times. It
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: has been frightening. I yes, so many?
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: Is that like me?
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: Twenty so many meaning twenty yes. It is frightening the
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: amount of things that I've been subjected to. And I've
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: been told these projects are Union, and then I get
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: there and they say Union spelled y oh oh in,
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: I oh in, And I say, what is Union?
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: That's an onion exactly.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's that's Richard Union's club of He's that famous
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: con artist slash director who who makes these projects. And
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: he tells them, well, that's a Union project.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: Yes, And it's kind of like this uh Scooby Doo
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: thing where once Sag finds out, he goes whoa found
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: out again?
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: And the Rascal of North Hollywood is what we call him,
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: and Chatsworth.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: He is a nightmare with every project.
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: Do you just like like open your email waiting for
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: the call sheet and then you get a SAG do
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: not work email?
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: And then sometimes I'm on set, sometimes I'm midline, sometimes
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: literally the emails are coming and all of the sudden,
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: oh I shouldn't be there, you know, And they said,
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: where are you going? And I get out in the
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: craziest ways, but I always get out.
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: It is I love our Union.
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: I love our Union. I don't love Richard Union. And
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: I want to make that clear. Richard Union is a
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: scam artist.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: Someone has to arrest that man. I think we can
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: all agree that Richard Union needs to be arrested.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: Catch him. They just can't catch him.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: He has so many wigs that they cannot.
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: Catch him, so many wigs, and he wears him on
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: his wrists so you can't even slap handcuffs.
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: Because his wrists are so slippery.
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: The slippery withthetic wig, greasy wig, greasy wigs Wigson.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: I would actually like to jump to one of my
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: favorite scenes of the pilot. This is kind of the
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: scene where myself and Miranda's character meet, and I really
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: really loved it because I felt like, I don't know
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: what kind of you get what the show is about immediately, yes.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: Yes, and well because she becomes the gargoyle at minute
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: twenty three, right, and so we really get right out
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: ahead of this very quickly. I believe in a quick
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: and fast pilot. I believe in a season one condensed
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: into the pilot, and then the rest of season one
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: could be season two.
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: If that makes me.
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I remember when I screen tested for
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: this rule. I remember the head of c W told
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: me that the that the CW shows aren't about the
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: fabric in which these characters are made in the climax
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: is the love triangle. So it's actually like, when you
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: think about it, like not about gargoyles. It's just about
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: three people fighting for love.
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: Would you say that, Stephanie, that it's not about gargoyles.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: I'll cut her off again. It definitely is thank about gargoyles.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: I'm making a choice to cut you off because they
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: don't trust what you're gonna say. It's about gargoyles, you know,
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: it's about gargos and the gargoyles journal I.
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: Think I misspoke because I'm not used to speaking on
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: my own. I think it is about gargoyles, But like,
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: what's really what the whole season is is about a
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: love triangle.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: I would say that for me, the show is about gargoyles.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: But in my mind, gargoyles are the purest form of love.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: There is there is no being on earth that loves
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: like a gargoyle. And that is why, going back to
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: what you were so aggressively asking me earlier, Miranda, I
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: believe I have the right to write about gargoyles because
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: I'm someone who's fallen in love. I am a woman
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: in love. He plays the tin man on Hollywood Boulevard,
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: and I have fallen head over heels in love with him.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: His name is. I was wondering who that was on
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: set all that time, walking around very loudly, interrupting all
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: the shots to constantly stop because we heard all.
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: This clean, clean clan clingin hitting tis.
• 22:23
  Speaker 7: Does he ever take that costume off?
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: And my second answer, my second question after you answered
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: no is why doesn't he?
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: I hope you have a second answer as well.
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: As a second answer, give us two answers and then
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: and then and then and then answered the second question
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: as well.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: Thank you. So I have two answers for the first question.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: The two answers for the first question are no and
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: no way. He never takes it off. And to your
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: follow up question, why doesn't he? He is very religious?
• 22:54
  Speaker 7: Okay, another question I had about the goggles, and then
• 22:57
  Speaker 7: we have to get to this scene.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just did we just not want to
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: see it?
• 23:01
  Speaker 7: Or well a question about it? I think this could.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: I would love to see it, would love to see it.
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: Gargoyles are mostly associated with churches, correct, and on churches
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: and Gothic buildings. I noticed there aren't any outward religious
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: tones or any references. And even there's a scene where
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: my character on the ogo is walking past the church
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: and someone looks and says, don't look at that. We're
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: not talking about that. We're not talking about that right now.
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: We're not talking about that right now.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: It's played for laughs. It's played for laughs.
• 23:33
  Speaker 7: Oh, we're not talking about that right now.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: I do think it's very well because that was a
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: major note I got on the script from many different people.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Is so these gargoyles. Gargoyles are attached to buildings inherently, right,
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: But these gargoyles aren't attached to anything. They don't ever
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: like By definition, a gargoyle isn't like a real thing.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: It's not like a specific creature that exists. It is
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: when creature is attached to the building and they're made
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: of stone, that's a gargoyle. But these hot kids are
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: running around without any buildings on them, and I had
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: to tell them, you know, that's because you don't have
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: any imagination. The kids, these hot gargoyle kids are carrying
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: the world on their backs. That's the biggest building.
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: There is, studios.
• 24:23
  Speaker 7: They're idiots.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: They don't get it. They don't get it. They don't
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: get it. And you know, I'm very happy. They have
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: given me a lot of creative freedom, really for no reason.
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: A lot, not even a gargoyle.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: And you wrote about it, Miranda, Easy, okay, Miranda, Miranda, No,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: we should we should air this now, we should air
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: this now.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: I just confirming nobody wanted to see my scene.
• 24:44
  Speaker 7: I want to see the clip.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: I want to see the fine let's air it out
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: first at least.
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: No, no, I think we should see the scene.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: No, it's fine. Well no, no, no, no, no, no, we're gonna
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: get I'm cutting you off.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: Miranda, Miranda, I want to know why this hurts for
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: you because I want to heal this. I want to
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: heal this by the time season two is rolling around.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: I need to heal this before prere.
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: Got to get there, before season two is rolling around.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: We have to. We don't even know if we're confirmed,
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: but we're all assuming.
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: Once it starts rolling around, you never know what's going
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: on this show.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: They'd be they'd be fucking fools.
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: No, it's a that's a good showrunner and lead like
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: head writer to talk about things before the show the
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: season two rolls around, because you have to do things
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: before they roll around. I just care about story authority
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: and who has the authority to tell them And sometimes
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: I feel like being in love with a tin man
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: on Hollywood Boulevard has nothing to do with Gargoyle.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: General Miranda, thank you for saying that. And now I
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: pausit this question, which I'm not I'm not sure if
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: I'm allowed to say, as your boss, are you a gargoyle.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: And if you don't want to talk about this, we
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: can we can cut this out. But I just want
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: to ask, you know, do you have the authority to
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: challenge me on this?
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: I don't want to answer that question.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's see the clip.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: So you're new in town. Yeah, right, there's the library,
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: that's Fountain Hall, that's the Performing Arts Center, and right
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: here I am performing arts.
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: Do you do that?
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: Hm?
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: I guess you could say, but not here.
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: Where?
• 26:31
  Speaker 7: Look?
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: Outside of school, a couple of us hang out. Maybe
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: you should join.
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: Oh at I have math homework and I love math.
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: I'm a geek like that.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: So yeah, you fucking are aren't you? Excuse me? You're
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: fucking geek too scared? You probably came from some big
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: city school and now you want to join our group. Yeah,
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: don't my gosh, what's happening?
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: Sorry, sometimes when I look a little weird.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: All right, meet us after school Dad's house. You're gonna
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: become a gargoyle. Thanks for letting me show that clip.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: Guys that that I felt like I really acted my
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: ass off there and I looking back, I didn't realize. Yeah,
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: you're just gonna say this out loud. Miranda you might
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: be a gargoyle. You were making some choices in that
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: scene that seemed like maybe, I don't know you're a
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: legitimate gargoyle.
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: And to be technically clear, you were not yet a
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: gargoyle in the show. Mm hmmm, so you were supposed
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: to be playing non gargoyle.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: You could hear me say kill that line when I said,
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: right at the end, I said, let's go, We're gonna
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: turn you into a gargoyle.
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: I don't, I don't know. I only do what I'm told.
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: On said, I don't.
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: Really, I was screaming crouch a lot.
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And I was probably listening to the director. We didn't,
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: didn't Billy Crystal's son direct this episode.
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Whitney Crystal.
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: Whitney Crystal.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, Whitney Crystal. I remember his crystal demanding visionary.
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: I remember he was really demanding.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: So I was probably just demanding.
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: I probably was just listening to what he had to
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: say and nothing else besides me.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: But I also now I'm remembering every time we shot,
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: you couldn't do night shoots, and then when sunset rolled around,
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: you said, sorry, I have to go, And then I
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: followed you one time and you just walked into that
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: church walked.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, anytime we walked by a church, you would sort
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: of go oh no, and then you'd look away, and
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: then I'd look back, and then there'd be a sort
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: of gargoyle that I didn't recognize, like some sort of
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: lion bust that I wasn't quite sure was there before.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: I also remember like some people were protesting outside of
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: the church and you went, Haywall. You were screaming like,
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: I have to protect it. You don't understand. I have
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: to protect it. This is my duty, this is my honor,
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: this is my duty.
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: There was also a time at catering when you were
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: eating a burrito and you, instead of the way normal
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: people eat burritos, which is a cylinder in, you ripped
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: the middle of the brittle open and then you're back
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: arched and you had these huge teeth and you were
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: just digging with your hands eating the burrito.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: Oh when there was that moment where you asked Crafty
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: if they had any more concrete, and then the Crafty
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: person said what, and then you said never mind and
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: you ran away.
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: And then I was there at Crafty once and you said,
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: do you have any bibles?
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: Okay? Should I go in order, or I guess I'll.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: Just order do it exactly at order, do you that'd
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: be great if you could just start from the top.
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: Number one, I was following direction from Whitney Crystal, Billy
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: Crystal's son, who was directing that episode. Number two.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: What was Number two?
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: I every time you guys see a church, I run
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: into it. Yes, I was raised Catholic and I'm trying
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: to let that go. But still when I do see
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: a church, I go to that confessional booth. I'm Number three.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Was catering first, Yes, three catering questions.
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: The thing they don't tell you about tacos to madre
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: is all of the meat is in the middle of
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: the burrito, and I don't like I get really full sometimes,
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: so I actually go in the middle so I can
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: get the meat and get out. Number two. I've never
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: asked for concrete ever before. I think maybe I was
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: just asking for a green juice and you miss have
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: heard it.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: Okay, green juice concrete those sound like very different. I
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: have maybe if I maybe if I said it quickly, grangeruice, granger.
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: Maybe I was asking for con meat with meat, meat.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: Meat, green juice or corne meat like you're ordering in Spanish,
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: but only the cold.
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: Do you drink a green juice and put meat in it?
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: Corn meat? Sometimes they do.
• 30:57
  Speaker 7: That juice meat.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: I will say, though, ordering green juice of putting meat,
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: and it does sound like you're a gargot. Again, I'll
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: just say that I feel like I would assume that's
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: what gargoyles eat.
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: Why did you choose? Why do you choose with to
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: be the only Spanish word? You say green juice?
• 31:15
  Speaker 7: Calln meat.
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: Sometimes I'm like, I need to go to l bathroom.
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: I like to so you only you like Sanish.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: I love the articles of Spanish, but just for the
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: and and and.
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's and that's an easy way to speak
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: Spanish and not exclude English.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: Speakers, just without any nouns. Yeah, it's an easy way
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: to speak Spanish if you don't learn the nouns.
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: I'm feeling pretty fucking ganged up on.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: I'm feeling I'm sorry, you've got some things popping out
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: of your back just a little bit.
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: I'm feeling I'm just gonna relax.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: No, let it out, I love it. Let it out.
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: Okay, Now it's the perfect time to change the subject.
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: And finally, talk about how awful Chester is as a person.
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: He never.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: What.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: We're still trying to get a season two? Might I
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: add when that rolls.
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: Around that airs, this is our press, folks.
• 32:23
  Speaker 7: We have to get this one. We have to get
• 32:25
  Speaker 7: a season two.
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: Wait, why am I a bad person? Everybody thinks we
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: don't have to it.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: No, I want to talk about it. You guys didn't
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: like my rap, my set raps I don't love. And
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: I thought it was fun, you know. It was kind
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: of like a bully rap. It was like a fun
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: rap that I would do.
• 32:44
  Speaker 7: You know.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: I'd be like, oh, like Jerry, really nice guy, really
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: nice actor, But yeah, I would rap about him Jerry,
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Jerry kind of hairy, looks like his wife cheats on
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: him every night? Why did he get married? And I
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: just have the flow, you know, I just have the
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: flows times. And yeah, Jerry Lake kind of quit.
• 33:03
  Speaker 7: Lots of crew members quit.
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: I would like to say that because because there was
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: somebody that I got to know, several of them. You
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: always did weird specifically kind of obsessive raps about you.
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: Dosessive obsessive raps about the best boys. And you say
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: he's he's my best boy. He's a reddal bad bitch.
• 33:23
  Speaker 7: You know.
• 33:23
  Speaker 9: It was really it's yes, I know we would go
• 33:28
  Speaker 9: way back, but it was it was David, Yes, Yeah,
• 33:32
  Speaker 9: Dojah and I were on a couple of Richard Union
• 33:34
  Speaker 9: shoots and I'm really proud of her forgetting out of
• 33:36
  Speaker 9: it because she was one of his favorites.
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: All sorts of projects and and awful awful stuff, and
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: we kind of worked in the trenches together, but it
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: was difficult for you to You were just kind of
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: obsessive over this best boy. The first one was Neil,
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: and then it was.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: Neil, he's my best boy. Yeah, he's a real bad bitch.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: He's real bad bitch.
• 34:00
  Speaker 7: It was weird.
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: It was that's just straight up, Doja.
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: It was well, I don't care about the copyright infringement.
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: The big problem for me was it was uncomfortable. He
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: was trying to work and you just kept talking about him,
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: and you learned things about him and look him up
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: on social media and stuff like that, and it was
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: uncomfortable for everyone. You kind of fixated on.
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: Okay, I'm really glad you brought that up, David.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: Thank you. Yeah, anybody else got any concerns or anger
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: at me? That they didn't tell me.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm trying to get a season two me too,
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: me too. I will say I needed to roll around.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: I needed to roll around because personally I am in
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: a lot of horse racing debt, and so I really
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: really really needed to roll around.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: See, your boyfriend is tin Man on Hollywood Boulevard and
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: you're in a lot of horse racing. By the way,
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: how did you get in here?
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: Did you just get into the show.
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: Tell other people's stories that aren't yours and to just
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: like make ship up, make up. You guys were danging
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: up on her.
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: Too, looking up on her for her life choices, not
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: in her creative choices.
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: I just don't understand who gives you the fucking.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: Teeth came out? Your eyes sort of got very yellow
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: for a moment and then retracted. Listen, I broke into
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: the industry the same way anyone breaks into the industry.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: My tin Man boyfriend and I were at the gambling races,
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: We were at the horse races. We were at the
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: Santa Anita Racetrack. And then who walks in but Steven Spielberg,
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: And he said, and he said in a.
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: Spielberg at the Santa Anita.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Yes, well, I have generational wealth. So we were sitting
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: in the same place.
• 35:56
  Speaker 7: That's the place where wealth kind of is its head.
• 35:58
  Speaker 7: It's Santa Anita.
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: When I hear When I hear Santa Anita, I hear
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: old Money.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: But Steven Spielberg, he said out loud, I really need
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: a script. And then little did I know a script
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: was the name of the horse. But that didn't stop me.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: That was the that was the conversation starter that led
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: me to go, mister Spielberg, I have a show that
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: I think would be really great for the CW. Could
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: you hook me up with them? And he said, what,
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: talk to me when the race is over. And thank
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: god a script won the race. He was in a
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: good mood and he was willing to talk to me
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: because he had just won ten million dollars off that horse,
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: and so he was ready to go. He was ready
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: to help.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just a really big shout out to our exec
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: producer Steven Spield, you thanks for jumping ONW show dvoy.
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: He's just so honest and you know what you think.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: It wasn't a mat but if you're really passionate about something, uh,
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: you do it.
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: He was the most hands on I've ever seen any
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: executive producer there. Every day I saw every day he
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: worked on the props a little bit.
• 37:13
  Speaker 7: He was so so dedicated.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: There was that one day that Crafty was short one person.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: He jumped in, Yeah, he.
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: Said em and m's I said, Steven. He said, don't tell,
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: and he said, just kidding.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: Kill every He's like undercover Bosston. He's having the most
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: fun he's ever had. And he did disclose with me
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: he loves the c W. He said, nobody can know this,
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: but I love the c W. I think he's I
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: gave him a Vampire Diary's T shirt for his birthday
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: and he said that it was the best present he's
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: ever gotten. He was so he was so elated.
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: I worked with him when I was a young actor too,
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: so it was good to see him again. Really well,
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: it was almost him. It was his name, it was
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: named It was a guy named Steven Spielmerkilberg. It was
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: Meelberg mielbergerg. It was a Smielberg movie produced by Bridgard
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: Union called e P Wow, Yeah, e P. That'sunds extra
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: per rest real.
• 38:12
  Speaker 7: It was a cat. It was a man and a.
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: Cat, and then you got a non don't do not
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: work and.
• 38:18
  Speaker 7: I had to leave.
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: Did they do not work?
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: Notice?
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: Do not work on Steven Schmielberg.
• 38:24
  Speaker 7: Smielbergs Yes, Steven Spielberg's EP.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: I just got a question like, how was how was
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: he making money? Were you guys paying to be on set?
• 38:33
  Speaker 7: Was part of the club? Yeah, it was a club thing.
• 38:36
  Speaker 7: It was dues.
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: So so you paid dues union dues, yes, union.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: Dues, and in exchange he gives you.
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: What rolls and carts, car advice rolls.
• 38:53
  Speaker 7: Those were kind of the triumvirate.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: And how many years into your life, into your career
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: did you realize that this wasn't good work?
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: Well, that this wasn't real.
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: We you cast me on Gara Gargoyle Journal eight months ago?
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: And yeah, so four months ago. Yeah, I was still
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: in the kind of paying union dues until four months
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: ago because they're they're bi weekly, so twice a week,
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: and how much two hundred a week? Two hundred to
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: do twice a week? Four hundred a week.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: Okay, so you're paying sixteen hundred dollars a month to Richard.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: Union to be in the movie.
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: Listen, I realized how crazy all of this was about
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: a month and a half ago, And it's nice to
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: be able to talk it out because I'm still trying
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: to process how I got trapped in it.
• 39:44
  Speaker 7: It was tough for me.
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: I don't know. You know, you're so desperate to get
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: a job out here, and I was told you're ugly.
• 39:49
  Speaker 7: You're ugly or ugly, you're ugly to buy all sorts
• 39:52
  Speaker 7: of people.
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: And you guys are the first people that saw me.
• 39:54
  Speaker 7: From who I was.
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: Can I ask you something, was Richard.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: Union the one calling you ugly over and over again?
• 40:02
  Speaker 7: Yes, it was him. It was him.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this sounds like a cult.
• 40:06
  Speaker 7: Yes it might be. We didn't you know it was.
• 40:09
  Speaker 7: It was a bad, bad way, It was a bad situation.
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: But I'm really glad you said something because people in
• 40:15
  Speaker 5: Hollywood need to know about these scams.
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: Yes, I'm you know, I'm being kind of d D
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: transitioned out of it, you know, I'm I'm I'm I'm
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: taking away.
• 40:24
  Speaker 7: I'm being deep programmed out of the part of the Union.
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Now I've heard there are those support groups for
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: people who have been scanned by Richard Union. Yes, they
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: meet in church basements and they sort of, you know,
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: you have coffee and donuts and you and you be
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: honest with each other.
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the the the scam a verse geniuses, the SAG,
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: the SAG joined SACK.
• 40:52
  Speaker 7: I have joined SAG. No longer in the union, but
• 40:54
  Speaker 7: I am.
• 40:54
  Speaker 5: I've joined because you need those you need to join,
• 40:57
  Speaker 5: not in the Union.
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: I left the Union and now I'm in SAG.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: Wait. Sorry, you said SAG was scam a verse.
• 41:05
  Speaker 7: Scam averse geniuses.
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: Now that's another scam.
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: It can be, can't That's not.
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: What's the logo when you get your dues or your emails?
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: What is the logo?
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: It is a kind of wayfish man raching his hands
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: up to the sky.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: Close.
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: Okay, who that's not it sounds that sounds fine, close.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: Most interesting.
• 41:30
  Speaker 7: Don't worry.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: Not enough for me to say no, it's I know,
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: not enough for me to know.
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: God, they're helping me a lot. They are giving me
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: all sorts of car advice.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: It is really how much do you pay them?
• 41:42
  Speaker 7: I pay them.
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: Let's see, it's they They don't ever want to do
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: what Richard Union did to us. So now we just
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: pay a lump sum every year, which I think is
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: twenty five to thirty thousand dollars to start that sounds right.
• 41:55
  Speaker 5: That sounds right, That sounds exactly.
• 41:57
  Speaker 7: Those are my sag dues.
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: Okay, that doesn't like a scam. That sounds like Zach.
• 42:03
  Speaker 7: Thank you regardless.
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: I'm so happy to be on this project and I
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: think we're gonna I really need it to kind of
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: cover these duws, so let's keep it rolling around.
• 42:11
  Speaker 5: I'm Stephanie. I have a question. Yes, so uh A
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: couple of the Riverdale shows in their second season, when
• 42:19
  Speaker 5: the second season rolled around, they had an episode con
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: music like a musical, and I was and I was wondering,
• 42:30
  Speaker 5: will we have a musical episode of Gargoylet Journal in
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: season two that people can look forward to.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: I'm so glad you asked, Miranda, because oh gosh, I
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: don't want to spoil anything with con music really picked
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: up for a season two music we will be doing
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: Dear Evan Gargoyle. It's a bottle episode. It's a onn
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: gargoyle kills himself and then the other gargoyle through a
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: series of really out there misunderstandings, somehow tricks people into
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: believing he was friends with the other gargoyle and then
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: uh for it. Yes, we're supposed to like him we're
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: supposed to think what he's doing is redeemable, right, And
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: we're gonna get someone older to play it. Not sure yet, someone.
• 43:21
  Speaker 5: Not Chester.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: No, I think we're gonna get Robert de Niro. I
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: think we're gonna give Robert de Niro to play the
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: dear earle. But it's all gonna work out at the end.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: And it's just a bottle episode, So it's we're we're
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: gonna move past it the next So you.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: Just want you want Robert de Niro playing a high
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: school gargoyle, just doesn't.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we'll put him in a polo. We'll put
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: him in a polo. It's fine.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fine, that's fine.
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: I'm very fine.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: Well, I am so curious to know from all of you.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, were there any sort of I mean, this
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: is I can't believe I'm as your boss. I'm asking
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: you this. This is kind of a you know, a
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: sensual show. Were there any off screen romances that I
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: don't know about?
• 44:14
  Speaker 7: I've been wondering.
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: And oppressed it.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: I think we can talk. I think we can talk
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: about it. I think, you know what, there's no.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: Mario Lopez here to ask these questions. So sometimes you
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: know what I'm feeling.
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: Would I'm curious about the two in this room. I'm
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: curious about the two in this room.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, we've had a lot of on screen chemistry.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: I didn't know she thought I was awful. I really
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: had no idea.
• 44:43
  Speaker 5: But it's not about you being awful. It's that my
• 44:45
  Speaker 5: vagina is a stone.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: But well, this is actually interesting. I wasn't going to
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: go that far, but we did try to hook up.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: It didn't work because her vagina was a stone. Really yeah,
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: just one singular stone, and I can.
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: Be a stone and I could still not be a gargoyle.
• 45:02
  Speaker 5: Those two aren't.
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: And now I'm just realizing because I've been in intimate
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: situations with her multiple times, and when we would hook up,
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: you know, every week.
• 45:11
  Speaker 7: Okay, so you did.
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: Off screwed romance.
• 45:15
  Speaker 5: None of this sounds like it adds up, but please continue.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: Well, I've just realizing how dumb I was, because, like,
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: you know, we're hooking up, and I don't want to
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: go into details because this is a breast junket. But
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: I would take off her shirt and it was all stone.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: It was just all stone, and I could not figure it.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: I literally could not figure it. It looked carved.
• 45:38
  Speaker 5: I don't want to talk about what I look like
• 45:39
  Speaker 5: underneath my clothes on Okay, okay.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's total.
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: I'll talk about I'll talk about absolutely, I'll talk about
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: it's actually fair.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry I brought it up that complete.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's level the playing field. When I take off
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: my shirt, it's like a lot of brick. It's a
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: lot of brick.
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: I'll be honest.
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: You are you lying?
• 46:01
  Speaker 5: Are you lying to make me feel better?
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: I can't help it.
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: I'm an ampath.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: I'm an ampath. That's what I say every day on set.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: You know it's it's It's much easier, I will say,
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: here's an insider Hollywood trick. Much easier way to deliver
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: bad news is to tell people you're an mpath after
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: you do it, because then they feel bad for you.
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: Yes, I will even the playing field as well. Tell
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: you guys about a little on screen romance, off screen
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: romance for me as well. I had a couple of
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: things going on behind the scenes. I divorced my wife
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: during the shooting of this, and.
• 46:36
  Speaker 7: It was mortal, but it made me.
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: Being on the show made me realize that I could
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: you know, if I looked good enough to be on
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: the c W show, I realized I could do a
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: little bit better wife wise. So this is brutal for
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: me to say.
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: To be honest, we wish you luck, man, it's really
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: and I haven't.
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: I don't think any of mine are working. I've called
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: I've called every single headquarter. I've called Ginger headquarters. I've
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: called Inger headquarters. I've called you because I say my
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: app isn't working. I'm not getting any matches, and I say,
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: how to figure it's just not how.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's a software.
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: My app is broken. I see them and they don't
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: come to me. And it's broken because I'm on a
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: CW show. It's they don't understand. And so it's been hard.
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: But I'm good and I'm living in Redondo now and
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: it's really nice.
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: David, I gotta take you out, my guy, I gotta
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: take you out.
• 47:29
  Speaker 7: We're gonna go, Oh, that would be fun.
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: Hit the young party scenes. Good.
• 47:32
  Speaker 7: Where do you go, dude?
• 47:34
  Speaker 6: Oh?
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: We go to all the great bars that are kind
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: of like open now, you know, kind of like new
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: ones open, like post pandemic. Like there's a junkies which
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: is really junkies. Yeah, junkies. It's kind of like we're
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: all like the twenty one year old twenty two year
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: olds a go. It's like really fun. And then there's
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: two two two, which is this bar on like Hyperion.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: Do you know where a Hyperion is? Oh?
• 48:01
  Speaker 7: Is that is that in Los Fila's.
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: Not that hype Okay, that's the wrong hypo. Okay, this
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: one's in the hills.
• 48:11
  Speaker 5: I'm really loving this.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Hyperion Hills.
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: Hyperion Hills. Yeah, it's just outside. You got a Hyperian
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: Hills and it's wild. Dude, you're gonna have a great time.
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: You'll probably meet you know where I met my wife
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: originally was Dimples in Burbank karaokee bar. It has since closed,
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: and so now that I'm divorced.
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: There's that I call to the huge breakout happened.
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, mister building from say by the Bell used
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: to run that needs to be there every night. And
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: I called him up and I called him, I said,
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: where did you go? Because I need Dimples back because
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: I'm single again, And he said, I'm busy, buddy, I'm
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: busy boy.
• 48:45
  Speaker 5: You love to call people when you have a problem.
• 48:47
  Speaker 5: You love to just like.
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: There is nothing, nothing more refreshing than a nice phone call.
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: In twenty twenty one, I wish more people were making
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: phone calls. You younger generation are always texting, and the
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: beauty of the oral conversation is being lost.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: It's being lost, you know, David, if you're in a bind,
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: I can always call Trevor. He has a ton of friends.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: He knows everybody. He knows gn husband, he knows, he
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: knows Superman, he knows Batman, he knows Elmo, he knows.
• 49:21
  Speaker 5: But those aren't real sippany. Those are just the people
• 49:23
  Speaker 5: in front of the grimmen's Chinese eat.
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: What are their names and are they women?
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: I don't.
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: I don't think you named a one woman character, he said, Superman, Batman, Elmo.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: Well, they don't have a lot of women on Hollywood Boulevard.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: I will say, not a lot of female characters on there.
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: I think there's a Harley Quinn, although Trevor and her
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: are not on good terms. There was a sort of
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: luncheon with all the Hollywood Boulevard people.
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: They're doing.
• 49:53
  Speaker 5: It's so fun they do a luncheon.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: Are they more organized than you think?
• 49:57
  Speaker 5: Are they union?
• 49:59
  Speaker 7: Which union?
• 49:59
  Speaker 4: You're in the which.
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: Union, So that's Shelby.
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: The Onion.
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: I was in the Onion in the eighties. I was
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: in the Onion in the eighties. It played Doc Brown
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: on Venice Beach. It was a nightmare, it was a
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: true I'm sorry to hear that she is still that
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: she is still going.
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: You know, you could lead a horse to water, but
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: sometimes you can't lead him out of the onion. That's
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: what I That's what I say. And sometimes you just
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: have to learn to accept it at a certain point,
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: because if I get into this fight with Trevor one
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: more time, that's marriage. Our marriage will it made every
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: aspect of my life crush, So.
• 50:45
  Speaker 5: It will crunion. Wow, listeners, beware l Union l Onion.
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: So I guess we haven't done much actual promotion of
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: the show.
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: We've really just been kind.
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: Of watch watch it please.
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: It's really fun, it's really hot, it's really great. There's
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: so many things that happen that are so fun. And
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: as you can see, we're we're thickest thieves. We're a
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: tight cast. Everybody big fans.
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  Speaker 1: I just got a very interesting text. We have been canceled.
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  Speaker 2: Oh oh my god, she's spread of wings Jesus.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so she has ale.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah she was.
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  Speaker 1: She was a garglele.
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  Speaker 4: This has been Artists on artists and artists on artists
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  Speaker 4: answering the question. Now, that's why they call it show business.
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  Speaker 7: We'll see you next week.
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  Speaker 5: Hi, I'm Angela Jertana.
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  Speaker 4: I'm Jeremy Colhayne, I'm Patrick McDonald's.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm Kylie Brakman. Artists on Artists on Artists on
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  Speaker 1: Artists is an improvised Hollywood roundtable podcast available on iTunes
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  Speaker 2: You can follow us at ao ao ao a pod
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  Speaker 4: That's right, four a's with three o's in between.
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  Speaker 7: Then.
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  Speaker 2: Pod music for this week's episode was provided by Gabriel Ponton.
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