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Are the Marlins legit? + Trade likes/dislikes w/Toddfather and Maybin · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: Hey, we've got Craig Mish the most style day and
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  Speaker 1: on the Marlins four years. You can catch them on
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  Speaker 1: TV cover in the Marlins, also on Sports Grid. Craig,
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  Speaker 1: great to see you and fun times. And I requested
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  Speaker 1: you yesterday because I'm like, we got to bring Craig
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  Speaker 1: Mish on when things are going right for the Fish.
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  Speaker 1: I know they lost yesterday, but they've been on an
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  Speaker 1: epic run and they had the big weekend against the
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  Speaker 1: Yanks with the Place Bowl. So how are things going
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  Speaker 1: down in South Florida right now?
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  Speaker 2: Guess Scott, I feel like I come on here playing
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  Speaker 2: defense every time I come on here, and.
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  Speaker 3: Now you can attack, go for it. Give us the goods.
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  Speaker 3: What's working some offense? On offense?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, they've they've played their best baseball
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  Speaker 2: since they won the World Series in ninety seven and
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  Speaker 2: in two thousand and three, and they just keep winning
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  Speaker 2: series after series.
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  Speaker 3: It doesn't matter who they put in front.
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  Speaker 2: Of them, it doesn't matter who's at home or on
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  Speaker 2: the road, and it's just really they've just played incredibles.
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  Speaker 2: If you consider there were sixteen games under five hundred
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  Speaker 2: and now they're back to five hundred as of yesterday
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  Speaker 2: losing to the Astros.
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  Speaker 3: Now they're one game back again.
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  Speaker 2: But it's one of those years where I guess you
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  Speaker 2: could say expect the unaffected, because I don't think anybody
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  Speaker 2: could have predicted them to finish close to five hundred
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  Speaker 2: this year.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, Craig, I want to stay there. We talk about
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  Speaker 4: what the Tigers did last year. Right we look at
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  Speaker 4: the Marlins right now. I think they're what six games
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  Speaker 4: out of the wildcard spot. Can they be the Tigers
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  Speaker 4: of last year and make a run that's simple?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I think it's possible. I think they're in
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  Speaker 2: a little bit of a tougher position in the National
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  Speaker 2: League given the teams that are ahead of him. You know,
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  Speaker 2: they're really talented teams there, and they're also you know
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  Speaker 2: in the mix with the Cardinals, Cam and also the Giants.
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  Speaker 2: I know that we don't feel great about those teams,
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  Speaker 2: not really pushing the foot on the pedal here at
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  Speaker 2: the deadline, but we do have to acknowledge they do
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  Speaker 2: have around the same record as the Marlins. So look,
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  Speaker 2: they kept a lot of the pitching together, and they've
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  Speaker 2: called up some nice young players. They called up this kid,
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  Speaker 2: Jacob Marcy, who after they traded Jesu Sanchez to Houston,
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  Speaker 2: has gotten on base at an incredible clip and he's
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  Speaker 2: playing good defense too. It seems like they have more
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  Speaker 2: reinforcements cam In the past, generally speaking, the Marlins always
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  Speaker 2: fielded a team, but then one or two goes down
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  Speaker 2: and then it's like, wow, we don't got anybody else.
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  Speaker 2: It feels like they have some of those guys that
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  Speaker 2: have come up this season and raised the floor, so
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  Speaker 2: to speak.
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  Speaker 5: I want to talk about Sandy al Contera a little
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  Speaker 5: bit here. I thought, I mean a lot of people
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  Speaker 5: did that he was the guy that was going to
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  Speaker 5: get traded at the deadline here. I thought he could
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  Speaker 5: have been used in other teams. Was there anything going
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  Speaker 5: into it knowing that, hey, we might have a chance
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  Speaker 5: here to make the playoff? Did that play a part
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  Speaker 5: in it? Or is just something didn't work there and
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  Speaker 5: it didn't seem like the right fit as they were moving.
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  Speaker 2: Forward, Yeah, I'm gonna go Todd seventy thirty meaning seventy
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  Speaker 2: let's explore trades and then pull back to about you know,
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  Speaker 2: the thirty percent As they went into.
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  Speaker 3: That last day.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I think that I broke that maybe with
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  Speaker 2: about fifteen minutes to go in the deadline. But Todd,
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  Speaker 2: truth be told, I think they made that decision a
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  Speaker 2: lot earlier in the day when they realized the teams
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  Speaker 2: were not just going to pay their price for what
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  Speaker 2: they were looking for, which was very high end prospects
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  Speaker 2: at from a lot of different teams. So, look, he
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  Speaker 2: didn't have a great start yesterday. He's definitely been tinkering
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  Speaker 2: with his arsenal, throwing more curveballs, which is not something
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  Speaker 2: that he's generally done in the past, just trying to
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  Speaker 2: get out any way that he can. But if he
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  Speaker 2: does finish the season, well, I would imagine the Marlins
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  Speaker 2: will take a look at this again and say, hey,
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  Speaker 2: look is this something we can explore, or potentially they'll
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  Speaker 2: roll back with him for another season.
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  Speaker 1: All right, So give me the glimpse of the trade
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  Speaker 1: picture in general from the deadline.
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  Speaker 3: You know, what were you.
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  Speaker 1: Hearing besides Sandy, did you think there was any chance
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  Speaker 1: Edward Cabrera was going to get dealt or really anyone else?
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  Speaker 3: Like the relievers.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure the team was thrilled that there weren't as
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  Speaker 1: many deals as anticipated with them because it helps them
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  Speaker 1: gone this nice little run and also teach some of
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  Speaker 1: the young guys how to win, which I do think
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  Speaker 1: is an important part of rebuilt process.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, Scott, it'll be great for next year to see
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  Speaker 2: those guys in the way they prepare for games. I
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  Speaker 2: think you're exactly right. Yeah, No, Edward Cabrera was also
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  Speaker 2: a player that easily could have been traded if a
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  Speaker 2: team like Boston or Chicago or another team would have
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  Speaker 2: offered up their very best prospects and then some.
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  Speaker 3: That was the key.
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  Speaker 2: The Marlins were looking for multiple players, so just one
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  Speaker 2: of the top guys wasn't going to get it done.
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  Speaker 3: And Scott, the reason.
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  Speaker 2: Why is not just because Edward Cabrera is pitching very
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  Speaker 2: well or Sandy al Contras won the cy young. They
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  Speaker 2: still have team control with Sandy next year and with
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  Speaker 2: Edward Cabrera for a couple of more years. And you
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  Speaker 2: saw what the relief pitchers were going for. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: the Marlins were well within their right to ask for
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  Speaker 2: a king's ransom for those players. So once it didn't happen,
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  Speaker 2: they just decided to pull back. But you know, I
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  Speaker 2: want to be clear, because it's definitely a fair question
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  Speaker 2: that Todd asked too. They went in with an open
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  Speaker 2: mind to trading those players. So while yes, it is
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  Speaker 2: a great story that they held some back and that
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  Speaker 2: will help them win, that absolutely is true. But the
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  Speaker 2: way that this organization is run, as Peter Bendix, the
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  Speaker 2: President Baseball Operations, always says, is they're going to have
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  Speaker 2: one eye on the president and one eye in the future.
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  Speaker 2: It wouldn't have surprised me if one of them got traded,
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  Speaker 2: both of them got traded, or in this case, none
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  Speaker 2: of them got traded.
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  Speaker 4: I want I want to stay there because you said
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  Speaker 4: something that I've been thinking about even as they dangled
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  Speaker 4: those pieces out there to kind of see what they
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  Speaker 4: could get. The most important thing, Craig, you said it control.
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  Speaker 4: And now here we are, they're showing some glimpses of
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  Speaker 4: plants together.
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  Speaker 6: Showing some athletics, leticism. They're a fun team to watch.
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  Speaker 4: If you actually two in to watch the Marlins play,
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  Speaker 4: there's gonna be some action, some things happen.
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  Speaker 6: They got some really nice young pieces. But when we
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  Speaker 6: talk about that.
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  Speaker 4: Control, what is the outlook now that they're showing, Hey,
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  Speaker 4: maybe if we do learn how to win, like Scottie says,
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  Speaker 4: maybe we don't just abort and we hold on these
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  Speaker 4: special pieces like Edward Carbrera, like Sandy who. You know,
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  Speaker 4: if they get right or if they continue to grow,
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  Speaker 4: they could be some of the best arms that we
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  Speaker 4: see in the game.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 2: Can They do have players that they would like to
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  Speaker 2: see in the minor leagues as well. In one of
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  Speaker 2: the trades that they made with the Padres, they got
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  Speaker 2: this kid, Robbie Snelling, who's been as good as any pitcher.
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  Speaker 3: In the minor leagues. They haven't even seen him yet.
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  Speaker 2: And they drafted a couple of years ago a kid
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  Speaker 2: named Thomas White, who at his level, he's been one
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  Speaker 2: of the best pitchers too. So I mean, look, there's
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  Speaker 2: always room for pitching. Because pitchers always get hurt. We
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  Speaker 2: have to call it what it is. The Marlins have
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  Speaker 2: been extremely fortunate on the injury side this year. They've
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  Speaker 2: been a very healthy team. I think that has helped also.
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  Speaker 2: Now the things they're doing behind the scenes keeping guys healthy,
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  Speaker 2: I can't speak to that. I know, teams like the Braves,
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  Speaker 2: everybody's getting hurt. Teams like the Marlins, everybody seems to
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  Speaker 2: be healthy for the most part.
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  Speaker 3: This season.
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  Speaker 2: They've had their fair share of injuries, so I think
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  Speaker 2: that's important cam for the future. But we also have
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  Speaker 2: to acknowledge that no one in baseball, including the Marlins,
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  Speaker 2: thought that Kyle Stowars would finish top three or five
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  Speaker 2: in the most vile voting in the National League. And
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  Speaker 2: when you have that kind of player on a team,
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  Speaker 2: that's Aaron Judge or show Heyo Tani or Kyle Tucker,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he has those numbers like those guys this
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  Speaker 2: year and no one saw it coming so inevitably. With
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  Speaker 2: that and the call up of Augustin Ramirez, who's played fantastic,
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  Speaker 2: He's been a great hitter for them. That with everything
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  Speaker 6: You answered my next question.
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  Speaker 4: I was gonna say, when you look back at that
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  Speaker 4: Trevor Rodgers trade, Connor Norby was like the big piece.
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  Speaker 6: Stowers was kind of almost the throwing guy.
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  Speaker 4: So I was gonna say, where is Connor Norby on this,
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  Speaker 4: you know, on his progression and his journey?
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  Speaker 6: And then you kind of answered it.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, how pleasantly surprised have they been with Kyle
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  Speaker 4: Kyle Stowers and did they expect this?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's you know, it's really kim an interesting trade
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  Speaker 2: because if you think about it, and you think back
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  Speaker 2: a few months ago, it looked like at the t
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  Speaker 2: and by the way, Kyle Stouwers has been awesome, and
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  Speaker 2: I think Norby will be an everyday player in the
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  Speaker 2: big leagues. He hasn't been healthy, a little bit of
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  Speaker 2: mixed results this season. They like him to do things
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  Speaker 2: a little bit differently at the plate, not you know,
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  Speaker 2: better swing decisions, I think is what the Barlins call it.
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  Speaker 2: But you know that that is something he can fix
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  Speaker 2: in the future. But I don't want to completely take
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  Speaker 2: down the Orioles in this trade, guys, because all of
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  Speaker 2: a sudden, Trevor Rodgers looks like he has figured it
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  Speaker 2: out back to when he won Rookie of the Year
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  Speaker 2: with the Barlins several years ago. So it really could
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  Speaker 2: end up being a good trade for both sides. We'll
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  Speaker 2: see if right now the Marlins have the edge here
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  Speaker 2: without a doubt, because Towers. I don't think the Oils
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  Speaker 2: would have ever even dangled him if they would have
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  Speaker 2: thought that was the case.
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  Speaker 3: But Cam, you are right when that trade was made, That's.
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  Speaker 2: What I was told too, is the trade is for
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  Speaker 2: Connor Orby and Kyle Stowers. And it has turned out
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  Speaker 2: to be maybe one of the best trades the Barlins
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  Speaker 2: have ever made in their history.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's been ridiculous. And for Rogers, I didn't have
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  Speaker 1: time to look it up, but I think that after
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  Speaker 1: next season he's a free agent. Right, they have one
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  Speaker 1: more season, one more year. Okay, so and Sotowers has
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  Speaker 1: what four or five?
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  Speaker 3: He's got several.
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  Speaker 2: But if you what's crazy, Scott is if you can see,
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  Speaker 2: this is what what bothers me. And no one could
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  Speaker 2: give me a real explanation about war, which is the
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  Speaker 2: stat that everybody goes looks like like Trevor Rodgers can
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  Speaker 2: pitch in three or four games and have a higher
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  Speaker 2: war right now than Norby and Stowars.
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  Speaker 3: Combined, Like, how is that even possible? That's why I
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  Speaker 3: love War.
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  Speaker 2: I get it, but I'm never gonna understand how that
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  Speaker 2: works because this guy Stowars has been unbelievable for one
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  Speaker 2: hundred and fifteen games. Rogers comes up, pitches a few,
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  Speaker 2: and all of a sudden it's the same. But this
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  Speaker 2: is what teams are judging contracts and players by. And look,
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  Speaker 2: I got to give credit to Trevor Rodgers. I thought
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  Speaker 2: he was cooked. I thought it was over and he's
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  Speaker 2: really bounced back.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. Yeah, Orioles have done a nice job
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  Speaker 1: with development with him and also him just getting healthy again.
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  Speaker 1: I see what you're talking about. Yeah, Rogers, at least
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  Speaker 1: for Baseball reference, war is two point nine, Stowers three
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  Speaker 1: point six. I personally will still take Stours for now,
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  Speaker 1: but I get it. Hey, if you're pitching like a
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  Speaker 1: number one, which he has been for the last month
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  Speaker 1: and a half, you know, that's great, so win for
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  Speaker 1: everyone in the Oriols. They need starting pitching, all right,
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  Speaker 1: So let's finish with this manager. Clayton mccaulla's over. I
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  Speaker 1: don't feel like he gets a lot of attention right now,
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  Speaker 1: So tell us about what it's been like to cover
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  Speaker 1: him and what he's bringing that's different from what other
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  Speaker 1: Marlins managers have tried.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think the first thing that happened was when
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  Speaker 2: McCullough was hired. They realized that they had a guy
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  Speaker 2: that was going on board with all of these different
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  Speaker 2: ideas and development processes that they had. That was the
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  Speaker 2: number one thing that was with Clayton McCullough. And so
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  Speaker 2: so far, so good in spring training, because you know,
• 11:31
  Speaker 2: when you bring in a whole new staff. And you know,
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  Speaker 2: obviously Gabe Kapler is their assistant general manager. He brings
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  Speaker 2: a wealth of experience and a lot of new and
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  Speaker 2: intriguing ideas to the organization when he was hired as well,
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  Speaker 2: So everybody sort of has to be on board with that,
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  Speaker 2: and so he checked that box immediately. Then from there,
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  Speaker 2: what you started hearing is not only is this guy
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  Speaker 2: just a baseball lifer, but he's like a lot of
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  Speaker 2: fun to be around in the clubhouse. And he's like,
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  Speaker 2: when it started, my background died and one of the guys.
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  Speaker 2: So he's really been I think a breath of fresh
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  Speaker 2: air for the team this season, and again getting along
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  Speaker 2: with everybody in the organization has been a clear positive
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  Speaker 2: for them.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, one last one fan question from for you from
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  Speaker 4: Ryan Bloomberg. Marlins are training four or training four for sure.
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  Speaker 4: They almost have to stand pat in the offseason and
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  Speaker 4: run it back in twenty six.
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  Speaker 6: The thing is will they do it.
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  Speaker 2: Well they run it back? I mean I need to
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  Speaker 2: be more specific. You mean like keeping every single player
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  Speaker 2: that's on the roster.
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  Speaker 4: I'm assuming that means the core pece, whatever the core
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  Speaker 4: pieces are.
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  Speaker 6: Let's just what are the core pieces right is I think.
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  Speaker 1: I just want to add, yeah, Cabrera's Contra et cetera.
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  Speaker 1: Like I think he's saying, like, you're gonna keep all
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  Speaker 1: these guys so that the rotation can have al Contra Cabrera.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think up next years you think they'll trade
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  Speaker 1: al Contra.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know who they'll trade, Scott.
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  Speaker 2: But you know the great thing is, even though it
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  Speaker 2: will not be exact and can it will this will
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  Speaker 2: be very much the way that Tampa Bay does business.
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  Speaker 3: Does Tampa Bay ever run it back?
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  Speaker 6: No?
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  Speaker 4: Exactly, exactly exactly you there you go, Ryan, that's the answer.
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  Speaker 6: It's very similar to temporary tempa rays.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, that's the blueprint. That's why they brought in Peter Bendix.
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  Speaker 1: Creg you're the man. Thank you so much for joining us.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks Craig, good to see you man.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you two Scott have a great day. Guys. Crats.
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  Speaker 1: In the weeds. I've talked about the trade deadline for
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  Speaker 1: probably about thirty hours on the show over the past
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  Speaker 1: week and a half, but we haven't had you guys on,
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  Speaker 1: So Todfather, what did you like and not like about
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  Speaker 1: the trade deadline.
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  Speaker 5: I mean it just for one, I'm not getting any
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  Speaker 5: team jet. I remember watching it, it just seemed like
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  Speaker 5: boom boom. It was compared to last year, right, compared
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  Speaker 5: to last year. I mean, honestly, it was a whirlwind.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I know, you guys were going back and forth.
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  Speaker 3: It's fun.
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  Speaker 5: You know, we talked about the Yankees. I thought they
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  Speaker 5: got a pluthorwer guys. Red Sox what the Red Sox too.
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  Speaker 1: They got Dustin May for the back end of the rotation,
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  Speaker 1: and they straight away Blaze Jordan, who's having a great
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  Speaker 1: year Upper Minors for Steven Mattz. And that is That's.
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  Speaker 5: It, And that's that's what I'm trying to get at.
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  Speaker 5: Like this team has is in the right direction of
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  Speaker 5: moving forward. They're doing really good right now. I think
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  Speaker 5: that was the team I was a little disappointed in.
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  Speaker 5: There's another team. I let Cam go on. But you know,
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  Speaker 5: I had them making I have them making the playoffs
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  Speaker 5: this year, and I thought they were going to be
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  Speaker 5: even better than what they were. They've had their struggles,
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  Speaker 5: but man, like, put your money where your mouth is,
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  Speaker 5: go get somebody to go, get another starter, get another
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  Speaker 5: another bat something. I mean you know, they talk about it,
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  Speaker 5: but you know, I don't know. I think that's the
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  Speaker 5: team that for me, I was just a little disappointed.
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  Speaker 5: And there's others, but that's the one I think about
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  Speaker 5: that where they could make even bigger push to win
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  Speaker 5: the division considering what the Yankees are doing.
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  Speaker 1: Our resident GM Jim Bowden said that they were the
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  Speaker 1: toughest team to deal with because they asked for too
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  Speaker 1: much in deals, right, like you're not getting fair compensation
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  Speaker 1: and deals according to most there, and Bob Nightingale said
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  Speaker 1: the same thing that they were difficult to work with.
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  Speaker 1: He specifically said, I'm going to be on here tomorrow too,
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  Speaker 1: so we can we can ask tomorrow. He'll be on
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  Speaker 1: with us tomorrow. Cam, what did you think about the deadline?
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  Speaker 1: And do you have anything for us on the Red
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  Speaker 1: Sox because they're playing good ball, so that's like the US, Right,
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  Speaker 1: they're having a great week, but this team could win
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  Speaker 1: a World Series And he didn't supplement it.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I'm with Tie. I think Ty said it all.
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  Speaker 6: But for me, you know, one thing.
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  Speaker 4: I really like is as we watch the Phillies go
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  Speaker 4: out and get one of the best closes in the game,
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  Speaker 4: I like that the Mets said, you know what, hold on.
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  Speaker 6: A minute, We're gonna go get Ryan Hailsley.
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  Speaker 4: We're gonna get Tyler Rogers, Gregory and Cedric Mullins to
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  Speaker 4: kind of help that defense as well. Right, I'm one
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  Speaker 4: of those guys that I don't really buy into the
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  Speaker 4: defensive metrics a lot. I watched the games, and the
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  Speaker 4: defensive metrics will try to tell me that Cedric Hunter
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  Speaker 4: excuse me, yeah, yeah, that Cedric Mullins cannot go get
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  Speaker 4: a baseball.
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  Speaker 6: They're tripping.
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  Speaker 4: I think he's a big upgrade from what they had
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  Speaker 4: in center. So I just like that the Mets tried
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  Speaker 4: to go, you know, lock Stafford Key to try to
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  Speaker 4: keep up with the Phillies. Even though I still worry
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  Speaker 4: about that starting rotation. I like what they did. I
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  Speaker 4: think we could talk about the Padres. I talked a
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  Speaker 4: lot about the Padres and how aj Preller. If I'm
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  Speaker 4: a Padres fan, I love a J Preller, Right. I
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  Speaker 4: know he got rid of maybe one of the top
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  Speaker 4: prospects in baseball. But when I was coming up, people
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  Speaker 4: told me, prospect just meant you hadn't done anything yet, right,
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  Speaker 4: so it was worth giving up a shot if you're
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  Speaker 4: trying to win now, and teams used to try to
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  Speaker 4: win now. So I applau AJ Preller for going out
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  Speaker 4: and really really putting his best foot forward, saying, you
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  Speaker 4: know what, I'm gonna.
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  Speaker 6: Give up these prospects. And you have to give him credit.
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  Speaker 6: He always find a way to replenish the organization.
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  Speaker 4: We're prospects to go out and make these moves every year,
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  Speaker 4: so it's not like they're giving up all these prospects
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  Speaker 4: and not getting anything back to go ahead and do
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  Speaker 4: it again next year. So shout out to A. J.
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  Speaker 4: Peler and the Padres. I think they did a great job.
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  Speaker 3: Cam.
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  Speaker 1: You played with Carlos Correa when he was with the Astros,
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  Speaker 1: and he's had an interesting journey right ends up with
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  Speaker 1: the Twins, then has the signing issues with the Medicals,
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  Speaker 1: with the Giants and the Mets, ends up back with
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  Speaker 1: the Twins, now gets traded to Houston. That was the
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  Speaker 1: most shocking move, right, not just that. I actually if
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  Speaker 1: you told me, hey, he'll end up back in Houston,
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised, right, he loved it there. Twins
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  Speaker 1: weren't going to have him through the whole contract most likely,
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  Speaker 1: but during the season, they figured it out and actually
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  Speaker 1: I think it was Jeff Passens report yesterday he said,
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  Speaker 1: originally they wanted Griffin Jackson the deal, and they wanted
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  Speaker 1: them to eat half the contract about fifty million dollars,
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  Speaker 1: and so it was debt and then the Astros eventually
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  Speaker 1: called back like, how about we eat like thirty isshes,
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  Speaker 1: keep Jacks or trade him somewhere and then they get
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  Speaker 1: it done.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah. I love this.
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  Speaker 4: I love this for one because I was never, you know,
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  Speaker 4: blessed enough to be in that position to sign a
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  Speaker 4: deal like Carlos Correa.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 4: I think sometimes it's players you do that right, you
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  Speaker 4: do what you do what you need to do to
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  Speaker 4: take care of your family. But on the other end
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  Speaker 4: of it, the Astros knew him right, even being being
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  Speaker 4: there in twenty seventeen and understanding how the analytic department
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  Speaker 4: and the information that they you know, they conversated about.
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  Speaker 4: It's it's sometimes you take for granted that, you know,
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  Speaker 4: being in a place that knows you right, and thinking
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  Speaker 4: that the grass will be greener on the other side
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  Speaker 4: because the money's better. And I think this is a
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  Speaker 4: situation where you know both sides are going, let's get
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  Speaker 4: that old thing back.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 6: This is like that accident.
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  Speaker 4: It's like, you know what, let's go out there, let's date,
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  Speaker 4: let's see how everything goes, and then all of a
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  Speaker 4: sudden you realize you're better off with each other. Right,
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  Speaker 4: So you saw my tweet right there, I'm like, hell,
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  Speaker 4: while they're at it, go ahead and.
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  Speaker 6: Resign Bragg and you put him at second. Right.
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  Speaker 4: We know he can play the middle of the infield,
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  Speaker 4: and go ahead and bring that old thing back and
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  Speaker 4: put it back together move before. But I love this
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  Speaker 4: move for the fan. I love it for Colos Korea.
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  Speaker 4: We saw him in Boston. Now they didn't you know,
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  Speaker 4: fare that will, but he came out, I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 4: hit a big homer to kind of, you know, create
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  Speaker 4: that buzz again.
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  Speaker 6: So I'm excited to see what they're gonna do.
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  Speaker 4: And they made some good moves to kind of show
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  Speaker 4: up that defense in Ureus and and some other guys
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  Speaker 4: as well.
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  Speaker 6: So I like what they did. And I definitely like
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  Speaker 6: bringing Carlos back home as we could, we should say.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they have him for three and a half
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  Speaker 1: more seasons and they're going to pay seventy something million
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  Speaker 1: dollars if you go back several years ago. I mean
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  Speaker 1: Korea wanted mid three hundreds, and he did get it.
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  Speaker 1: He got three something I think it was low threes,
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  Speaker 1: three fifteen or something like that from the Giants, and
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  Speaker 1: then the Mets offer was lower, and then eventually the
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  Speaker 1: Twins offer was I think in the in the mid
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  Speaker 1: to high hundreds. But if you're the Astros, this is
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  Speaker 1: why they say to themselves, we're not signing a player
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  Speaker 1: to a seven, eight, nine, ten year deal for hundreds
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  Speaker 1: of millions of dollars. And look, one of the guys
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  Speaker 1: who they wanted to keep very badly as much as
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  Speaker 1: anyone in their Frameschise history. They end up getting him back.
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  Speaker 1: And so I think Cam that's probably part of why
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  Speaker 1: they went from saying, hey, fifty and it came down
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  Speaker 1: to thirty, and they're like, think about it, we were
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  Speaker 1: thinking about having this guy for five six more years
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  Speaker 1: and two hundred something million dollars. Now we're getting him
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  Speaker 1: back for three and a half at seventy and change.
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  Speaker 1: And if they believe in him and that he can
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  Speaker 1: stay healthy enough for the next few years and they
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  Speaker 1: know he's you know, part of the spiritual leadership within
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  Speaker 1: the clubhouse, there that's a bargain for them, and not
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  Speaker 1: with and not and.
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  Speaker 6: Not out the realm of hey, check this out.
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  Speaker 4: Let's say he plays good for two more years and
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  Speaker 4: all of a sudden that third year and like we can.
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  Speaker 6: Flip him again and get something else for him.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just saying, you never know, it might be a
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  Speaker 4: situation where who knows where the Astros are three years
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  Speaker 4: from now, and they're like where Carlos is playing really
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  Speaker 4: well and somebody else may need him to go play
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  Speaker 4: third there. You know, there's a lot of possibilities that really,
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  Speaker 4: I really like how it's worked out for both sides.
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  Speaker 3: I really do.
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  Speaker 6: I really do. Actually, there was that a player option
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  Speaker 6: or team option as far as that trade goes. Was
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  Speaker 6: that a I'm just curious which one the Carlos.
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  Speaker 4: Going back to Houston was that a club? Was that
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  Speaker 4: a player option or a team option as far as well?
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  Speaker 1: So the team obviously traded him, but he had a
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  Speaker 1: no trade class and that he's initially in the stories
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  Speaker 1: that I've read, he said that he gave approval only
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  Speaker 1: to the Astros, which were the only team that was
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  Speaker 1: really in the running, So it all makes sense. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he had to he had to approve it, so it
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  Speaker 1: was really ever he had the option to say, nah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm staying here in Minnesota if I want, but all right, Minnesota.
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  Speaker 6: Says a lot. That says exactly.
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  Speaker 4: That says a lot that he's like, you know what,
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  Speaker 4: ain't that upset, you know, I'm not that upset that
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  Speaker 4: you didn't.
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  Speaker 6: Take care of me in the first the first time, Astros.
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  Speaker 4: You know what, I missed that old thing. You know what,
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  Speaker 4: It's okay, you know, so, I just it says a
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  Speaker 4: lot about how they parted. Weighs and I love this,
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  Speaker 4: I absolutely love it.
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  Speaker 1: I actually think he's going to retire there because I
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  Speaker 1: think he's got three and a half years left with
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  Speaker 1: the way the body's working in the age, so I
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  Speaker 1: think he'll finish up there with the shows. Much more
• 23:02
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• 23:04
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