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Dan Bongino’s Last Interview (Ep.160) · V

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Speaker 1: Good morning and welcome to Bongino Report, early edition. And
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Speaker 1: you guys know that when I have guests, I always say, I.
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Speaker 2: Have a special guest today.
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Speaker 1: This time, it is actually the most special guest that
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Speaker 1: we could possibly have on this show because it is
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Speaker 1: Dan Bongino Jr., himself joining the early edition.
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Speaker 3: Wow. This better be a really good interview. It's going
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Speaker 3: to be really good. That was quite an intro.
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Speaker 1: Anytime you come on, Dan, and it's like, like you
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Speaker 1: show up on the side of the screen at the
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Speaker 1: end of my show every once in a while, they
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Speaker 1: flip out.
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Speaker 3: Well, it was weird, right? Because we were in this
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Speaker 3: small studio. There's nowhere to go. So you have to
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Speaker 3: like genuflect and you got to move over and I
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Speaker 3: got to steal the mic from you. It just didn't work.
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Speaker 3: Now we're in this big studio. So look at this.
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Speaker 3: I'm just learning this now. So that's my camera. We
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Speaker 3: got the two-shot. Evita's got her camera over here. We
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Speaker 3: only had two cameras in the other studio, and one
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Speaker 3: of them was at this awkward angle. So this has
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Speaker 3: worked out perfect. I'm glad. We're still working on your set.
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Speaker 3: Evita's set's right over there. We're tinkering with the lighting
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Speaker 3: over there. But you like it so far, getting out
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Speaker 3: of the.
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Speaker 2: My favorite part is the side shot.
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Speaker 1: Can you guys see the flag here? Yeah, yeah, you
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Speaker 1: can kind of see it. It is so cool, and
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Speaker 1: especially in my shot, it's amazing. And this is what's
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Speaker 1: so amazing about the stand is we started this out
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Speaker 1: and we were literally in a closet in your house.
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Speaker 1: And now we're in this incredible studio. The team is growing.
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Speaker 1: The company is growing. We now have Haley's show. And
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Speaker 1: by the way, Haley's show is amazing. It's at 6 p.m.
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Speaker 1: Same as my show. It's on Bongina Report.
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Speaker 2: You guys can get it. 6 p.m. Eastern time. It
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Speaker 2: is so cool to be growing like this.
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Speaker 1: Did you envision this when you started the podcast five,
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Speaker 1: six years ago?
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Speaker 3: You know, I guess the stock company... you know, iPhoto
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Speaker 3: answer you can buy offline is, you know, no, I
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Speaker 3: didn't see it. But, I mean, I did. If I
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Speaker 3: didn't have a vision, I wouldn't have done it. Now,
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Speaker 3: did I know it was going to turn into, you know,
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Speaker 3: what I hope to be an alternative to linear cable,
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Speaker 3: like all-day programming, which is eventually my goal? No. But,
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Speaker 3: you know, I felt like I had a calling. You know,
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Speaker 3: obviously I've failed at a lot in life. You know,
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Speaker 3: I didn't ran for office. It didn't work out. But
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Speaker 3: that's where the podcast came from. I think as I
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Speaker 3: wrote in that last book, you know, it's it's your
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Speaker 3: failures shouldn't define you. And there were things I just
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Speaker 3: I didn't get into medical school. So I went to
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Speaker 3: business school. So after I lost this run for office,
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Speaker 3: I was reading this article about podcasting, how kids weren't.
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Speaker 3: This is in 2014. I'm reading this article, how young people,
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Speaker 3: I shouldn't say kids who were driving, weren't listening to
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Speaker 3: car radio anymore, that they were listening to Bluetooth. And
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Speaker 3: they said, podcasting will be the future. And of course
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Speaker 3: it was named after the iPod. That's where podcast comes from.
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Speaker 3: And I thought I should start one of those. And
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Speaker 3: I kind of knew within the first couple of weeks,
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Speaker 3: I said, this is really, this is interesting. Like you
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Speaker 3: can talk and you can talk about whatever you want.
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Speaker 3: And we didn't have a sponsor for about three, four years,
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Speaker 3: but I knew the show was going to, was going
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Speaker 3: to be good. I knew it because I knew God
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Speaker 3: had called me for something different despite falling down a
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Speaker 3: couple of times. But did I expect it was going
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Speaker 3: to turn into this and your show blowing up? I mean,
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Speaker 3: you were, I sent you that thing at show prep
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Speaker 3: this morning. Did you see that? You were a top
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Speaker 3: 50 live stream yesterday on Bongino Report. Did I expect
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Speaker 3: this to happen? No. So it's kind of a yes
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Speaker 3: or no answer. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's incredible what's happened. And, you know, you're
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Speaker 1: having a major transition right now. You built this whole studio.
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Speaker 1: We're starting something. And yet you're taking a step back.
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Speaker 1: You're going to go and serve what.
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Speaker 2: You've done before.
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Speaker 1: But it's pretty hard to, you know, serve when you
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Speaker 1: have all of this that you've built now suddenly coming
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Speaker 1: to fruition in front of you.
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Speaker 2: And you're like, I'm going to make that sacrifice.
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Speaker 1: And something that you said to me that's really always
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Speaker 1: had an impact, well, you didn't say it to me,
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Speaker 1: you said it to the world, but it still had
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Speaker 1: an impact on me. You were being interviewed by Tucker Carlson,
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Speaker 1: and you were talking about suffering. And you said, you know,
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Speaker 1: your job in life isn't to be happy all the time. Like,
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Speaker 1: you shouldn't always be pursuing just happiness, that we have
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Speaker 1: a reward system that's different than that.
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Speaker 2: Can you expand on that? And like, how does that,
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Speaker 2: you know, apply to what you're doing right now?
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Speaker 3: Well, I know you and I share a common belief in...
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Speaker 3: the Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. If you believe in
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Speaker 3: Jesus and you're missing the meaning of suffering, you really
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Speaker 3: miss the meaning. Jesus didn't have to sit there and
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Speaker 3: have nails driven into his wrists. He certainly didn't have to.
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Speaker 3: He's God. You could say, you know what? I'm not
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Speaker 3: doing this today. I just don't feel like it. He's God.
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Speaker 3: He's omnipotent. He's omniscient. So there was a lesson there. And, um,
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Speaker 3: There's a book, The Natural, there's a movie too, but
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Speaker 3: I've quoted it off in my audience, probably heard it before,
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Speaker 3: Bernard Malamud. It's about baseball, but the book's actually really good.
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Speaker 3: So is the movie. But in the book, there's the line,
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Speaker 3: you know, that we all live two lives, the one
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Speaker 3: we learn from and the one we live after that.
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Speaker 3: And that the real path to happiness is through suffering.
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Speaker 3: And that's what I was trying to explain in that
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Speaker 3: Tucker interview. I remember that answer well. It said that
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Speaker 3: you have... I hate stupid cliches like, oh, you know,
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Speaker 3: don't worry, be happy, like the Bobby McFerrin song. Me too. No, no, worry.
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Speaker 3: And don't always be happy. Because I can be happy.
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Speaker 3: There's crack. Oh, that makes you happy for 15 minutes.
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Speaker 3: It does. I mean, you can look at the dopamine.
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Speaker 3: People love it. People can throw their whole lives away.
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Speaker 3: You have alcohol, people can't stop drinking. You have people
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Speaker 3: out there who smoke nicotine. Hey, it's going to kill you,
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Speaker 3: but it makes me happy. So don't worry, be happy. No,
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Speaker 3: don't be happy. The irony is you will be happiest
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Speaker 3: when you say, don't worry, suffer. When you choose deliberate suffering,
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Speaker 3: working extra hours, putting in hours in the morning in
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Speaker 3: the gym, even silly things. Like I talk about the
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Speaker 3: cold plunge and people may laugh, but you know what?
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Speaker 3: Jumping in 45 degree water in the morning really sucks
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Speaker 3: at 530 in the morning. But you know what? It's
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Speaker 3: good for my body and I need it. So I
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Speaker 3: do it. And it sucks. And, you know, go into
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Speaker 3: your kid's game after a long day of work when
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Speaker 3: you're tired. You could go home and eat popcorn and
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Speaker 3: watch whatever, some crappy movie on Netflix. But that's not
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Speaker 3: being a dad. That's being a loser. So, yeah, you
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Speaker 3: happy watching your Netflix like a fat ass eating your popcorn? Yeah,
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Speaker 3: you're happy, you know. I mean, you guys know, you
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Speaker 3: think your dad was happy commuting from Wisconsin. That's not
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Speaker 3: a one-way, that's not an easy flight. He was a
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Speaker 3: congressman for multiple terms. You think that was like happy, joy,
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Speaker 3: joy time? I mean, dealing with a lot of these
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Speaker 3: people in D.C.? And I think the lesson is, and
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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but I'll wrap it up here, is if
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Speaker 3: you seek suffering, you'll be the happiest. If you seek happiness,
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Speaker 3: you're going to suffer. That is the greatest irony of life.
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Speaker 3: Jesus taught us the lesson in the Bible. And even
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Speaker 3: if you're not a Christian, even if you're not, I
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Speaker 3: love Jesus and that's my religion, it may not be yours,
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Speaker 3: but you look at the world's great religions, which millions
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Speaker 3: of people follow, every single one of them has the
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Speaker 3: same lesson. You have got to suffer to reach salvation.
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Speaker 3: You're never gonna reach salvation seeking happiness all the time.
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Speaker 3: It's an embarrassingly bad approach to life. And that's why
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Speaker 3: when that call came in for this, just like when
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Speaker 3: it came in for your dad, who had a great
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Speaker 3: job up at Fox, I know. I talk to your
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Speaker 3: dad all the time. We're good friends. The answer was yes.
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Speaker 3: There's not even a second thought. Do it. That's the answer,
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Speaker 3: even if it involves some temporary sacrifice. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: And I think even if you're always pursuing happiness and
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Speaker 1: you might think it'll make you happy, ultimately what makes
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Speaker 1: you happy is when you take the hard route and
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Speaker 1: you pursue suffering. That's where the fulfillment comes from. That's
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Speaker 1: what the reward system that you were talking about.
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Speaker 3: But haven't you seen in your life? I mean, you
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Speaker 3: were in University of Chicago, right? With the vaccine thing.
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Speaker 3: You could have just taken it, right? I definitely would
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Speaker 3: have taken it. I mean, you would have caused yourself
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Speaker 3: probably some issues, but you could have saved yourself a
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Speaker 3: lot of headaches, correct?
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Speaker 1: I almost got expelled. I had to sue the university.
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Speaker 1: I mean, people were calling me a grandma killer. I
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Speaker 1: had to go in every single week and inconveniently take
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Speaker 1: a vaccine test because I was unclean. Other people I
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Speaker 1: knew were expelled. A friend of mine, she got vaccine injured.
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Speaker 1: And this is verified by Pfizer.
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Speaker 2: It's not a conspiracy. You can look her up.
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Speaker 1: And her doctor said, do not take the booster. And
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Speaker 1: the school had a booster mandate. And they said, you
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Speaker 1: have to take it.
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Speaker 2: And she said, I won't. And they expelled her. And
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Speaker 2: she was like, OK.
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Speaker 1: And there are a lot of people who were brave
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Speaker 1: like that. And if you aren't willing to stand up
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Speaker 1: for what is right or what is true or what
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Speaker 1: is good, then there are a lot of other people
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Speaker 1: that are going to suffer, too. We are all kind
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Speaker 1: of connected in that way, I think.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, and I bring that up, you know, specifically
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Speaker 3: because there's nothing I, listen, you've been around this business
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Speaker 3: a long time, you know, obviously your parents are involved,
9:34
Speaker 3: what do we call it, the content creation business, the
9:36
Speaker 3: talking head, I don't care what you call it, but
9:38
Speaker 3: you've been around this business a long time, and I
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Speaker 3: see it, there were so many really amazing people, Mark Levins,
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Speaker 3: Hannity's always been there for me, Glenn Beck early in
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Speaker 3: the days gave me my start, and these guys have
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Speaker 3: just been incredible, but You know there are a lot
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Speaker 3: of fakes and phonies out there, and they pretend like
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Speaker 3: they're above it all, and they make mistakes. I bring
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Speaker 3: that story up for a reason. I'm one of these
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Speaker 3: guys who highlights my mistakes all the time. That was
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Speaker 3: a decision I had to make at the time. It's
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Speaker 3: one of my greatest regrets. I never felt the same
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Speaker 3: after it, after I took it, but I had no,
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Speaker 3: I could not get these cancer treatments.
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Speaker 2: But you were, yeah, you were in a really special situation.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was. But, you know, still to this day,
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Speaker 3: like I see some of the, you know, I'm only human.
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Speaker 3: I read criticism about me too. I see it. It's
10:21
Speaker 3: hard to avoid because, you know, we micro target on Twitter.
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Speaker 3: So I see my name creep up. And when people say, well,
10:28
Speaker 3: that was dumb. And I'm like, you know what? You
10:32
Speaker 3: weren't in my situation, but I can't disagree with the decision.
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Speaker 3: Like maybe I should have, I had to get that
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Speaker 3: treatment at that place. And maybe I could have made
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Speaker 3: that decision a little differently. I mean, I try to
10:43
Speaker 3: rethink these things all the time. And I think, you know,
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Speaker 3: one of the reasons you and Haley, I mean, I, I,
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Speaker 3: we picked you guys for a reason have succeeded on
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Speaker 3: this specific network is I know this audience watching right now,
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Speaker 3: you guys, the Bongino army, they absolutely crave authenticity and they,
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Speaker 3: You know, they don't want fakes and phonies. Like, oh,
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Speaker 3: you know what? I had some special scientific reason. No,
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Speaker 3: I didn't. I just wanted to live. Like, that was it.
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Speaker 3: And maybe I could have rethought it. But I'm authentic
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Speaker 3: when I tell you that I make mistakes too, man.
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Speaker 3: I wrote a whole book about it. You want to
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Speaker 3: read all the things I screwed up? Because there are
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Speaker 3: a lot of them. I advertised it in a book
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Speaker 3: just to let people know. There's nothing special about me.
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Speaker 3: My lodestar is this, and I know where I'm going.
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Speaker 3: But I fall off the path all the time. It
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Speaker 3: happens all the time.
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Speaker 1: Well, and on authenticity, I think it's relevant to the
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Speaker 1: viewers to just know, like, you have never told me
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Speaker 1: what I can and can't say on this podcast.
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Speaker 3: No.
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Speaker 1: And this, for everybody listening, it's so unnatural. I mean,
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Speaker 1: everywhere you go, if there's any kind of overhead, they
11:48
Speaker 1: are moderating content. And you're a mentor, and you tell me,
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Speaker 1: you know, hey, you know, I think here's a way
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Speaker 1: to think about this.
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Speaker 2: But it's very balanced, and it's very respectful.
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Speaker 1: And I never have felt like I am told what
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Speaker 1: to say or what to think by you. And I
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Speaker 1: think the viewers can tell that. So I really appreciate that.
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Speaker 1: And on being authentic and true, Dan, I have to
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Speaker 1: tell you that when I cold plunge, it's 33 degrees
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Speaker 1: and it's in the middle of the lake and I
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Speaker 1: chop up the ice in Wisconsin.
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Speaker 3: You win. I'm not doing no 33. I keep it at,
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Speaker 3: what is it, 46, 47? I keep it at 45,
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Speaker 3: but it usually goes up to 47 because it's going
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Speaker 3: to cool it down.
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Speaker 2: Have you tried to get it to 33?
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Speaker 3: No, no. 33, I'm suffering. I'm not suffering. Here, let
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Speaker 3: me show some authentic side. I ain't suffering that much.
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Speaker 3: I forget what I said about suffering. I'm just kidding.
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Speaker 3: I ain't going down to no 33. No, not a
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Speaker 3: chance in Hades.
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Speaker 1: We'll have to show the video of it at the
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Speaker 1: show next time, you guys, because I'm out there with
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Speaker 1: Michael in the middle of the lake.
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Speaker 3: Bring Michael in with you.
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Speaker 2: Chop the ice, jump in there, and we have the thermometer.
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Speaker 2: It's 33 degrees.
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Speaker 3: Justin, get that video and stick it in their show
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Speaker 3: and they don't know about it. That would be fantastic.
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Speaker 3: That show would go nuclear. watching these two freeze their
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Speaker 3: butts off. 33 degrees. That's insane. No way.
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Speaker 1: But there's something so much better about jumping in a lake.
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Speaker 1: You got to try it in a lake.
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Speaker 2: It's different. It's cool in a lake. And you feel
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Speaker 2: like you're in nature. There's something really amazing about that.
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Speaker 3: I wish I would. But it's Florida. And Michael knows
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Speaker 3: there are not many lakes with 33 degree water. Not
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Speaker 3: in Florida. Justin, have you ever seen a lake in
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Speaker 3: Florida with 30? No, never. Justin hasn't seen a lake
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Speaker 3: in Florida with less than 80 degree water at all.
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Speaker 3: He's been down here with Justin as a Florida seniority
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Speaker 3: over all of us. So we're all kind of, I
13:26
Speaker 3: think I've been here 10 years. He's been here his
13:28
Speaker 3: whole life. So Guy, Guy's six. So yeah, he's got
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Speaker 3: the Florida seniority.
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Speaker 1: Dan, I want to get to something that we were
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Speaker 1: kind of talking about before this started that I think we,
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Speaker 1: you know, I would love to take, get more of your,
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Speaker 1: your opinion on. You got this kid, he's Mahmoud Khalil.
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Speaker 1: He's a 30 year old man. He was at the
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Speaker 1: University of Columbia.
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Speaker 2: He was a graduate student. He's now been detained by
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Speaker 2: ICE because he is accused of being.
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Speaker 1: A Hamas sympathizer. He's also accused of anti-Semitism by the DHS.
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Speaker 1: It's a little unclear exactly what they are going to
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Speaker 1: charge him with and on what grounds he's going to
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Speaker 1: be deported.
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Speaker 2: But to be clear, federal law does.
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Speaker 1: Say that if you are a terrorist or a terrorist sympathizer,
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Speaker 1: you don't have a right to be in this country.
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Speaker 1: But I want to get your take on this because
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Speaker 1: you were telling me you were thinking about it really deeply.
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Speaker 3: I am. Yeah. Yeah, listen, this is one of those
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Speaker 3: topics on a political talk radio show that's, there's something
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Speaker 3: for everyone. I don't mean that in a qualitatively good way.
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Speaker 3: I just mean that if you really want to do
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Speaker 3: a talk show, you don't avoid topics like this. If
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Speaker 3: you want to be one of these, you know, kind
14:39
Speaker 3: of wuss guys who doesn't want to offend anyone, you
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Speaker 3: avoid a topic because you're like, there's nothing I'm going
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Speaker 3: to say that's going to make everyone happy. I don't care.
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Speaker 3: I'm honestly not here to make people happy. I'm here
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Speaker 3: to make them interested and feel like, wow, you know,
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Speaker 3: that this isn't as simple as I thought. So with
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Speaker 3: the Khalil case, you have this weird situation where he
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Speaker 3: is not a U.S. citizen, but is an LPR, legal
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Speaker 3: permanent resident via green card. He has a wife here
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Speaker 3: and the wife happens to be eight months pregnant. I
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Speaker 3: am obviously an anti-Hamas activist.
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Speaker 2: Most anti-Hamas man I've ever met.
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Speaker 3: Yes, I am. He wins the award. Thank you. If
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Speaker 3: there's an anti-Hamas, like, I don't like terrorists award, then
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Speaker 3: that would be an honor of a lifetime to accept it.
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Speaker 3: But here's the thing. Okay, so let's go with angle
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Speaker 3: number one. Some people have said it's a free speech case.
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Speaker 3: if anyone's going to lecture me on free speech after
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Speaker 3: what I've been through in my life, I mean, I'm
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Speaker 3: not even going to bore you guys with the details.
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Speaker 3: The amount of suffering my wife and I have taken
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Speaker 3: on defending people who say things I don't like, there
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Speaker 3: are people on a platform I've invested in who go
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Speaker 3: on the platform and insult me all the time. One
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Speaker 3: guy threatened me on the platform. We have never, ever, ever,
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Speaker 3: ever considered like, oh, well, he needs to go easy.
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Speaker 3: It's not about me. It's about his ability to speak out,
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Speaker 3: even when it hurts actually or could hurt. I said,
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Speaker 3: leave it, leave it. We're not touching anything. And you know,
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Speaker 3: we're not doing anything with it. So the free speech
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Speaker 3: bona fides are there, but it's not a simple free
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Speaker 3: speech question because it's not, it's not black or white.
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Speaker 3: There's a lot of on the margin here. Does this
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Speaker 3: involve conduct and actions as well? Because that's different. I
16:28
Speaker 3: can say all I want, um, I support, I don't
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Speaker 3: like Israel. I don't like Benjamin. I'm going to say
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Speaker 3: that's obviously not my opinion, but I don't like the Netanyahu.
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Speaker 3: I hate the Israeli government. Israel has no right to
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Speaker 3: exist in that territory. They haven't been there. That's historical Palestine.
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Speaker 3: You can have all the opinions you want.
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Speaker 2: From the river to the sea.
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Speaker 3: From the river to the sea. I mean, if you
16:49
Speaker 3: don't say the magic words and threaten someone's life, which
16:51
Speaker 3: would apply to a U.S. citizen too, that is protected speech, period.
16:55
Speaker 3: And it should be defended, even if you don't agree
16:57
Speaker 3: with it. The question is, the fact that it involves
17:01
Speaker 3: some degree of conduct on the university, private property, and elsewhere,
17:06
Speaker 3: and that some of the conduct may, there's not necessarily
17:10
Speaker 3: a direct link, but may involve the support of terrorism.
17:15
Speaker 3: Is it a conduct issue or a speech issue? This
17:18
Speaker 3: is one of those talk topics where Evita, I don't
17:21
Speaker 3: have an easy answer yet. And I've applied, I hate
17:24
Speaker 3: to throw it out there, but the Bongino rule where I,
17:27
Speaker 3: I want to see what comes out in this due
17:29
Speaker 3: process hearing. But second, this is where it gets complicated.
17:33
Speaker 3: If this is a U.S. citizen, it's a little bit
17:35
Speaker 3: more of a black-and-white case. It isn't. It is someone
17:39
Speaker 3: who is not a United States citizen. They have rights
17:42
Speaker 3: on U.S. soil as a legal permanent resident, okay, here
17:45
Speaker 3: on a green card. There's no question. But then you say, well, okay, well,
17:49
Speaker 3: he needs to go. Get him.
17:51
Speaker 2: Maybe.
17:54
Speaker 3: but maybe not. We haven't had the due process yet either.
17:57
Speaker 3: He's getting it, which is good, but this is one
18:00
Speaker 3: of those things. I encourage everyone, regardless of where you
18:03
Speaker 3: stand on the Israel-Palestine, Israel-Arab world issue and the entire
18:08
Speaker 3: issue of the Middle East, I just encourage everyone to
18:10
Speaker 3: be deliberate, wait for the facts, don't get emotional. I
18:14
Speaker 3: know it's hard because this involves terrorism, life or death,
18:17
Speaker 3: believe me. There's no more serious topic, but I encourage
18:19
Speaker 3: everyone to just think like an investigator and a spreadsheet.
18:23
Speaker 3: Let the facts develop And in this due process hearing,
18:26
Speaker 3: if the government can show that there was some material
18:29
Speaker 3: support for terrorism, I don't care if you're a citizen
18:31
Speaker 3: or not, you've committed a crime. And I don't care
18:33
Speaker 3: if that's a white supremacist, a Nazi, an Islamic radical.
18:38
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter. You cannot financially or physically support and
18:44
Speaker 3: take actions to support a group that commits to killing
18:47
Speaker 3: people in the name of terrorism. You just can't do it.
18:49
Speaker 3: It's a crime. It doesn't matter who you are.
18:51
Speaker 2: And I'm a little even more radical than that, Dan.
18:52
Speaker 1: I'll say even if it's not under federal law, I
18:54
Speaker 1: just think the government should be able to deport anyone
18:57
Speaker 1: on any grounds who's not a U.S.
19:00
Speaker 2: Citizen.
19:01
Speaker 1: You have the right not to get killed or raped
19:03
Speaker 1: in this country if you're not a U.S. citizen, or
19:04
Speaker 1: you have human rights. But the only people that have
19:08
Speaker 1: a right to be here are U.S.
19:10
Speaker 3: Citizens.
19:11
Speaker 1: You don't have a right to be here if you're
19:12
Speaker 1: not a citizen. I don't know why people seem to
19:14
Speaker 1: be confused about that issue. The other thing that I'm
19:16
Speaker 1: going to say, though, Dan, is there have been some
19:18
Speaker 1: laws that have been introduced and in some cases even
19:21
Speaker 1: passed in the state and on the federal level introduced
19:24
Speaker 1: to criminalize antisemitism.
19:26
Speaker 2: And my fear with this.
19:27
Speaker 1: Issue is that there is perhaps a precedent being set
19:31
Speaker 1: that it's against the law to be an antisemite because
19:35
Speaker 1: we have seen that actually proposed at the state and
19:38
Speaker 1: federal level.
19:39
Speaker 2: And I hate antisemites. I'm not an antisemite. But do
19:42
Speaker 2: I think that that is a very clear speech issue?
19:45
Speaker 1: I do. And that's where I'm kind of taking a
19:47
Speaker 1: pause and saying, Are we sure we want to take
19:50
Speaker 1: a step in that precedent, even if it's a non-citizen?
19:52
Speaker 3: Well, that's a very fair and adult question that, you know, again,
20:00
Speaker 3: it's one of these things I think people always reflexively
20:03
Speaker 3: jump to an answer because that behavior is so repulsive
20:07
Speaker 3: that the reflexive answer is, well, we need to ban it.
20:12
Speaker 3: And the question then becomes, well, who gets to say
20:15
Speaker 3: what that is, okay? Take the anti-Semitism component out of
20:19
Speaker 3: it because it elicits so many emotional responses you can't
20:21
Speaker 3: ever get to the spreadsheet. Say something to somebody who says... Homophobia, even. Yeah,
20:27
Speaker 3: say someone who comes out and says, I don't like
20:30
Speaker 3: people who are X, some group, whatever it may be, LGBTQIA.
20:37
Speaker 3: You know, I don't... who gets to say, in other words,
20:42
Speaker 3: what's considered, say, anti-Semitic or anti-gay or anti... Once you
20:49
Speaker 3: start opening up this gray area, then you get to
20:53
Speaker 3: the disinformation paradox where two different people see two different things,
20:57
Speaker 3: and both of them can't be right. In other words,
20:59
Speaker 3: you get to, like, the, say, the COVID issue, where
21:02
Speaker 3: they're going back to the vaccine where, you know, someone says, well,
21:05
Speaker 3: the vaccine's ineffective, and the government says, well, that's disinformation, right?
21:09
Speaker 3: And then what's ineffective mean? Someone may say ineffective, how?
21:14
Speaker 3: Show me a study. Well, I'm going to show you
21:16
Speaker 3: studies that doesn't prevent people from contracting COVID from someone else. Well,
21:20
Speaker 3: that person's probably correct if you look at the science
21:23
Speaker 3: or masks. Who gets to say what disinformation is? And
21:28
Speaker 3: this is why I'm such a free speech absolutist and
21:31
Speaker 3: why I don't reflexively answer these questions about people without
21:34
Speaker 3: getting the data. If it's conduct, if it's in violation
21:37
Speaker 3: of the law, or a threat.
21:38
Speaker 1: I mean, Mahmoud Khalil.
21:41
Speaker 3: Or anyone else, I don't care who it is, I'm
21:43
Speaker 3: not suggesting he said this, but it could be Paula.
21:46
Speaker 3: If someone comes out tomorrow and says, I want to
21:49
Speaker 3: kill this person, that's a crime. You're directly, immediately inciting violence.
21:54
Speaker 3: And if there's an immediacy component to it, that's different.
21:58
Speaker 3: But the gray area of disinformation bothers me because you're
22:01
Speaker 3: always going to get politicians who weaponize the term. And
22:05
Speaker 3: disinformation becomes any information you don't like.
22:08
Speaker 1: I got one more point to bring up to you
22:10
Speaker 1: on this one, Dan. And I'm just going to say
22:11
Speaker 1: about those kids that were protesting at Columbia, at my school,
22:14
Speaker 1: the University of Chicago.
22:17
Speaker 2: I didn't even think I would.
22:19
Speaker 1: I was shocked by myself when I reacted to this
22:22
Speaker 1: because I had such a negative visceral reaction. It brought
22:24
Speaker 1: back all these memories to me of students who treated
22:27
Speaker 1: me horribly, like friends who were liberal, who then were
22:31
Speaker 1: sending me death threats online.
22:32
Speaker 2: And they were.
22:33
Speaker 3: You know, are you talking about the anti-Israel?
22:36
Speaker 2: So, yeah.
22:37
Speaker 1: So when I was at UChicago, I had made an
22:41
Speaker 1: anti-socialism statement and I got just slammed with hate from
22:45
Speaker 1: my peers to the point where like law enforcement had
22:47
Speaker 1: to get involved.
22:47
Speaker 2: The university had to get involved. David Alex had.
22:50
Speaker 1: To come out with a statement like it was it
22:51
Speaker 1: was a big deal. And so what I'm saying is
22:53
Speaker 1: that I saw those pro-Israel. Palestine kids on campus, and
22:57
Speaker 1: it brought back these memories, because I know they're not
22:59
Speaker 1: motivated by, many of them, a love for Palestinians.
23:02
Speaker 2: They're motivated by Marxism. It's the haves and the have-nots,
23:06
Speaker 2: and I know where it's coming from.
23:07
Speaker 1: At the same time, Dan, I remember during that time
23:11
Speaker 1: when I was canceled in 2020, that there were university
23:16
Speaker 1: students who attacked this country, America. They were looting, and
23:21
Speaker 1: they were burning our cities, and they were toppling down monuments.
23:24
Speaker 1: And I know that that ideology was coming from the
23:26
Speaker 1: university system. And there weren't any calls to get rid
23:29
Speaker 1: of foreign-born students who were involved in the BLM rioting.
23:33
Speaker 2: And to me, I thought, I think.
23:36
Speaker 1: We can have a conversation about anti-Semitism and anti-Israel sentiment
23:39
Speaker 1: and pro-Hamas, I mean, serious questions.
23:42
Speaker 2: And at the same time, I go, where.
23:44
Speaker 1: Was this outrage when we were talking about America? I
23:47
Speaker 1: want that too. You know, that was my reaction to
23:50
Speaker 1: this as well.
23:50
Speaker 3: There's a great op-ed in the Wall Street Journal. It
23:53
Speaker 3: came out two days ago. And the gist of the
23:58
Speaker 3: piece is, you know, because America is an open society,
24:02
Speaker 3: and we have been, we've been very open to people.
24:04
Speaker 3: Whether you like that approach or not, it's a fact.
24:06
Speaker 3: I mean, the country was built by early Americans. There's
24:11
Speaker 3: no doubt about that. But my grandparent, Paula is an
24:14
Speaker 3: immigrant to the country, a first-generation immigrant. My grandparents came
24:18
Speaker 3: here from Palermo, Sicily. Immigrants have played a vital role.
24:23
Speaker 3: Anyone from the Irish to the Italians to people who've
24:26
Speaker 3: come here from Spanish-speaking countries and other places around the
24:29
Speaker 3: world as well. But because we're an open country, it's
24:33
Speaker 3: been said, who was it? Was it Scalia who said it?
24:35
Speaker 3: None of this stuff is like a suicide pact either. Like,
24:38
Speaker 3: we don't have to allow people into our treehouse who
24:41
Speaker 3: hate the place. And there's this op-ed in the Wall
24:43
Speaker 3: Street Journal where the guy's like, isn't this common sense?
24:46
Speaker 3: I mean, yes, once you're here, you have rights. That's it. Like,
24:49
Speaker 3: we have a constitution, and there are four corners of it.
24:51
Speaker 3: Respect it no matter what.
24:53
Speaker 2: As much as I want to get rid of Ilhan Omar,
24:54
Speaker 2: she's a citizen.
24:55
Speaker 3: She has rights. And you can't just say, like, no,
24:58
Speaker 3: she doesn't because we don't like what she's saying. That's
25:00
Speaker 3: not the way. The constitution is not a suggestion is
25:02
Speaker 3: what I'm getting at. It's a hard stop sign, not
25:04
Speaker 3: a four-way stop sign no one pays attention to. You
25:06
Speaker 3: have got to follow the rules, or else you have nothing.
25:09
Speaker 3: You have chaos and anarchy. However, the rules also say
25:14
Speaker 3: you don't have those rights if you are not an
25:17
Speaker 3: American citizen. An American citizen in Paris still has rights
25:20
Speaker 3: of an American citizen. A resident of Accra, Ghana, who
25:25
Speaker 3: comes over here, until they land on US soil, has
25:29
Speaker 3: no such rights. Matter of fact, even one of the
25:32
Speaker 3: exceptions to the search exception in the Constitution is at
25:35
Speaker 3: the border. You do not have those rights at the border.
25:38
Speaker 3: Even you, when you come into the border, it is,
25:40
Speaker 3: we can search your vehicle. Wait, fourth amendment, not at
25:43
Speaker 3: the border. You don't even have American citizen rights. And
25:46
Speaker 3: we're letting people in, not obviously, not anywhere close to all,
25:50
Speaker 3: but a subset of people coming into the country who
25:53
Speaker 3: just hate the place. They hate everything about us. They
25:56
Speaker 3: love the first world living standards. But they hate the place.
26:00
Speaker 3: And that's the suicide pact that we've been warned against.
26:04
Speaker 3: The Constitution was never meant to be a suicide pact.
26:08
Speaker 3: Everything has four corners around it. Even our wonderful, amazing
26:13
Speaker 3: First Amendment. You can't threaten people's lives. You can't libel people.
26:17
Speaker 3: I can't come out tomorrow and say, I have evidence
26:20
Speaker 3: Evita was born on Saturn. I can't do that. It's
26:24
Speaker 3: not true. I made it up. But I am the
26:27
Speaker 3: first one. Everything has restrictions on it because the Constitution
26:30
Speaker 3: was not meant to be a suicide pact. And this
26:32
Speaker 3: is what bothers me. And like with the protesters on campus, hey, listen,
26:38
Speaker 3: your viewpoint is protected. You hate Israel. You hate Netanyahu.
26:42
Speaker 3: You hate the IDF, the Shin Bet, the Mossad. You
26:45
Speaker 3: hate them. You are allowed to do that. But the
26:49
Speaker 3: question is, are you allowed to do it on a
26:51
Speaker 3: private college campus? If they say you are, it's their property,
26:55
Speaker 3: it's not mine, that's fine. But then there's other questions.
26:57
Speaker 3: That's why I said everything's nuanced. Are you allowed to
27:00
Speaker 3: stop Evita Duffy from walking in a classroom? Because Evita
27:03
Speaker 3: has rights too. And the answer is no, you're not.
27:07
Speaker 3: You are not allowed to physically contact Evita Duffy and say,
27:10
Speaker 3: you can't go in the classroom. You can't. So, you know,
27:15
Speaker 3: these are really nuanced questions that I think our audience,
27:18
Speaker 3: which you've seen, who's very deep, the Bongino Army are
27:22
Speaker 3: super smart. Just read the chat. They understand that none
27:25
Speaker 3: of this stuff lends to easy answers, but when you
27:27
Speaker 3: talk it through like me and you were doing now,
27:29
Speaker 3: you're like, you know what? I think they're right. I
27:32
Speaker 3: do love the First Amendment, but the First Amendment, like
27:34
Speaker 3: any other right, doesn't allow you to impact on the
27:38
Speaker 3: civil bigot rights of others either.
27:41
Speaker 1: Well, there's an interesting conversation to be had about the
27:44
Speaker 1: Catholic Church, Dan, because you were just talking about identity.
27:47
Speaker 1: Do you just have a right to come in here?
27:50
Speaker 2: And is that the Christian answer, right? Because you'll see
27:53
Speaker 2: the Catholic bishops will slam J.D. Vance, will say, we
27:56
Speaker 2: have to just let.
27:57
Speaker 1: All these people in and have Catholic charities be a
28:00
Speaker 1: government contractor and facilitate all this and get billions.
28:03
Speaker 2: Of dollars from the taxpayers.
28:04
Speaker 1: That's the right Christian moral thing to do. And we
28:07
Speaker 1: have to have conversations about what is the moral thing
28:09
Speaker 1: to do. In the past, church fathers have said that
28:12
Speaker 1: it's actually the duty of the leaders of said countries
28:16
Speaker 1: to protect the people.
28:18
Speaker 2: That's a moral duty.
28:19
Speaker 1: And protecting the people includes protecting them from threats like
28:23
Speaker 1: terrorists crossing the border, but also protecting the unique American.
28:27
Speaker 2: Identity that we have.
28:28
Speaker 1: And there's this narrative right now, and I'm seeing it
28:30
Speaker 1: on these viral Jubilee videos that are going around the internet,
28:35
Speaker 1: that we don't have an identity. That everybody is, it's meritocracy,
28:38
Speaker 1: and everybody can believe what we believe, and it's kind
28:40
Speaker 1: of a salad bowl, not a melting pot.
28:43
Speaker 2: And to me, Dan, that is so backward. We are
28:45
Speaker 2: a people.
28:46
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're not a salad bowl. No.
28:48
Speaker 2: No.
28:49
Speaker 3: Why does our military work so well? And the answer
28:52
Speaker 3: is because when you go to boot camp, we specifically
28:56
Speaker 3: are absolutely not a salad bowl. You've got, say, an
29:01
Speaker 3: immigrant from India who maybe grew up speaking Hindi or something,
29:05
Speaker 3: but now has learned English and is a U.S. citizen
29:08
Speaker 3: who says, I'm going to serve in the United States
29:09
Speaker 3: Marine Corps next to a guy who may be white,
29:13
Speaker 3: whose parents immigrated from Ireland, say, 100 years ago, or grandparents,
29:18
Speaker 3: whatever it may be, great-grandparents came over, right? And the
29:21
Speaker 3: whole idea is we are not going to recognize superficial
29:24
Speaker 3: differences that mean nothing. You are part of one cohesive team.
29:28
Speaker 3: That's why the military is so damn effective before we
29:33
Speaker 3: started to break it up with this DEI stuff. So
29:36
Speaker 3: I find that ridiculously patently offensive. and I think that's
29:40
Speaker 3: why the woke left and the DEI people want you
29:44
Speaker 3: to focus relentlessly on all of our differences. But to
29:47
Speaker 3: get to your question about the Catholic Church, because I'm
29:49
Speaker 3: part of it, I love it, I worship there. You
29:54
Speaker 3: and I feel the same way. about Jesus and faith.
29:57
Speaker 3: You don't have Jesus and faith. You're just in a
30:00
Speaker 3: dark forest. I mean, you just are. I mean, you're
30:04
Speaker 3: sitting around looking for answers to a, the answer's right
30:08
Speaker 3: in front of you. It's right there. But God gave
30:11
Speaker 3: us a world of scarce resources. There is a world
30:14
Speaker 3: without scarce resources. It's the second creation, which we call
30:18
Speaker 3: heaven in the Catholic faith. There's no scarce resources there.
30:21
Speaker 3: This is the test, okay? You're buying your movie ticket
30:25
Speaker 3: into the second creation. And through that, God gave you
30:28
Speaker 3: a complex problem to solve. The first problem we already discussed,
30:32
Speaker 3: so this was kind of an unintentional segue, but is suffering.
30:35
Speaker 3: How do you navigate the balance? God doesn't want you
30:37
Speaker 3: to suffer all the time. He wants you to enjoy happiness.
30:40
Speaker 3: But he doesn't want you to live your life in
30:42
Speaker 3: the pure pursuit of happiness. I don't care what anyone
30:45
Speaker 3: tells you. There's going to be suffering. But secondly, he
30:49
Speaker 3: gave you a world of scarce resources where there are
30:51
Speaker 3: no easy answers. So anyone telling you, well, the Catholic faith,
30:55
Speaker 3: we have to take care of everyone all the time. Really?
30:57
Speaker 3: Resources are scarce. The expense of my own kids? So
30:59
Speaker 3: just to be clear, you're telling me that those closest
31:03
Speaker 3: to me with my DNA, who I would do anything for,
31:06
Speaker 3: I would kill for in a second. If I had to,
31:08
Speaker 3: I would.
31:09
Speaker 2: I believe it.
31:09
Speaker 3: You're telling me, right, that I should.
31:11
Speaker 2: He would.
31:12
Speaker 3: Right, right, in a second, that I should forfeit the
31:16
Speaker 3: resources I've accumulated. I'm not talking about charity. I mean,
31:20
Speaker 3: we give and do. I'm not talking about that. I mean,
31:22
Speaker 3: you're saying that as a country, because not everybody's been
31:25
Speaker 3: blessed as much as they have. Some people are really struggling.
31:29
Speaker 3: You should forfeit those resources away for your nuclear family
31:33
Speaker 3: to take care of someone you have no idea. And
31:36
Speaker 3: you're saying God said to do that? God said be charitable.
31:40
Speaker 3: absolutely be kind, be nice to everyone. If you have
31:43
Speaker 3: extra resources, donate them, give them away. Give them away
31:48
Speaker 3: in a responsible way. But we should just endlessly take
31:51
Speaker 3: in groups of people at the expense of our own
31:54
Speaker 3: citizens and our own laws? That's so incredibly naive. I'm
32:00
Speaker 3: really convinced you never actually read the Bible. You think
32:03
Speaker 3: you read the Bible, but you didn't read the Bible.
32:05
Speaker 3: You completely missed the context of it.
32:07
Speaker 2: How backward is it that there are people.
32:10
Speaker 1: in this country who their priorities are things that are
32:13
Speaker 1: on the other side of the world. I mean, that's
32:14
Speaker 1: what I think about when I see these pro-Palestinian kids.
32:16
Speaker 1: I'm like, there are people dying of fentanyl in this country.
32:19
Speaker 3: There are people- Not just a few, either.
32:21
Speaker 2: Veterans who are homeless in this country. And your priority
32:24
Speaker 2: is apparently Palestinians.
32:25
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean that you can't genuinely be concerned about
32:28
Speaker 1: the Palestinian lives on the other side of the world,
32:30
Speaker 1: or any life on the other side of the world.
32:32
Speaker 1: But it's just natural that your priority be your family,
32:36
Speaker 1: your community, your country.
32:38
Speaker 2: And for so many people, that doesn't seem to be
32:40
Speaker 2: the case. And they slammed J.D. Vance for this.
32:42
Speaker 1: The Pope Francis did, because he articulated this really eloquently,
32:46
Speaker 1: better than I'm doing now. And Pope Francis said, that's
32:49
Speaker 1: not Christian, actually. That's, you know, it's.
32:52
Speaker 2: Contrary to the Catholic doctrine.
32:54
Speaker 1: And this is not correct. Pope Francis was patently incorrect
32:58
Speaker 1: about this issue.
32:59
Speaker 3: He is. And I think the infallibility of the Pope
33:04
Speaker 3: argument is frequently misinterpreted by people I haven't really read.
33:07
Speaker 1: Yeah.
33:07
Speaker 3: He's just wrong.
33:08
Speaker 2: Faith and morals.
33:10
Speaker 3: He's just incorrect on this. The irony of what you
33:14
Speaker 3: just said, where Vice President Vance is totally on it,
33:18
Speaker 3: is the point J.D. is trying to make is when
33:20
Speaker 3: we build a solid core of nuclear family home units,
33:26
Speaker 3: it's almost like the positive externality that comes from that
33:31
Speaker 3: is the, I don't want to talk in lofty terms,
33:34
Speaker 3: but the energy is infectious. When you have a, it's simple,
33:39
Speaker 3: let's do the inverse. It's easier to understand. I wish
33:41
Speaker 3: it weren't, but it is. You get a family full
33:43
Speaker 3: of fatherless homes and a broken neighborhood. What do you have?
33:45
Speaker 3: Every single time, every time, crime, destruction, property damage, economic loss,
33:52
Speaker 3: no tax base, low property values. Decorrelation is 100%. Then
33:58
Speaker 3: you see other neighborhoods, middle class, upper middle class neighborhoods,
34:01
Speaker 3: two parents, good job. Maybe one stay at home parent
34:04
Speaker 3: around the children. Good, decent schools. The correlation is almost perfect.
34:10
Speaker 3: So the irony is when you take care of what's
34:12
Speaker 3: closest to you, like them or not, Jordan Peterson says
34:16
Speaker 3: all the time, just make your own bed. Make your
34:19
Speaker 3: own bed first. When you make your own bed, the
34:21
Speaker 3: whole house looks better. But when everybody's focused on everyone
34:24
Speaker 3: else's room, no one's focused on their own, and the
34:27
Speaker 3: whole house is a hole. It's a mess. So that's
34:31
Speaker 3: just a completely ridiculous approach. I could not disagree with
34:35
Speaker 3: Pope Francis more on that. Take care of family first.
34:40
Speaker 3: Make your bed. Then you know what? When everything's good
34:42
Speaker 3: at home, you have extra resources, community, local. Then when
34:46
Speaker 3: you have some extra resources, maybe find a group. I
34:49
Speaker 3: don't know, like Folds of Honor I like. They take
34:52
Speaker 3: care of military people who lost their parents and take
34:56
Speaker 3: care of scholarships. But then you branch out. It's the
34:59
Speaker 3: principle of subsidiarity, which is a religious faith-based principle, but
35:03
Speaker 3: applies to economics and government too. The closest impact you
35:07
Speaker 3: can ever make are the people closest to you. As
35:09
Speaker 3: you start to think about other things and get away
35:12
Speaker 3: from local, the irony is you destroy the other things
35:16
Speaker 3: and the local.
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Speaker 2: It's so true, Dan. And I'm getting the producers behind
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Speaker 2: the scenes telling me to wrap it up. Really?
35:22
Speaker 3: Look at this guy.
35:23
Speaker 1: He's like, cut.
35:24
Speaker 3: He's like, get out of there. We got producer Jim
35:28
Speaker 3: here too. He's kind of laughing in the background.
35:30
Speaker 2: Producer Jim would never cut us off.
35:32
Speaker 3: That's just a Guy and Michael thing.
35:34
Speaker 1: But Dan, I got to ask you just really quickly,
35:36
Speaker 1: fast pitch, tell everybody what Silverlock is all about.
35:39
Speaker 3: Silverlock, so that is the new media company going forward
35:43
Speaker 3: and luckily Paula's been so deeply involved in the business
35:46
Speaker 3: for years that it's kind of a natural segue. But
35:48
Speaker 3: the idea of Silverlock is to build a long-term alternative
35:54
Speaker 3: to pay models. I want a free service available on Rumble,
35:58
Speaker 3: which is free. I mean, premium is an option, of course,
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Speaker 3: but you don't have to. And I want people to
36:03
Speaker 3: be able to have programming all day. You were the first.
36:06
Speaker 3: This was an experiment that could have gone awry. I
36:09
Speaker 3: knew it wouldn't. I knew it. I just, I saw
36:12
Speaker 3: you and I was like, we need to grab her.
36:14
Speaker 3: She's fantastic. But you've been a huge success, a major launch.
36:19
Speaker 3: We just brought in Hayley. Vince, and eventually by the
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Speaker 3: time Silverlock is done, Paula has this vision now of
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Speaker 3: building out more talent and giving them and giving people
36:29
Speaker 3: just an all day alternative so that you don't have
36:32
Speaker 3: to pay. You know, it's a it's a tough it's
36:34
Speaker 3: a tough place. You can pay for that. convenience of
36:37
Speaker 3: not getting all those ads and stuff on premium. But
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Speaker 3: that's kind of the vision of Silverlock.
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Speaker 1: And what's going to be so amazing about it is
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Speaker 1: because I told you guys, I have nobody telling me
36:46
Speaker 1: what I can and can't say. This is going to
36:49
Speaker 1: be something where it is authentic voices. You are going
36:51
Speaker 1: to hear the truth from that person without oversight from
36:55
Speaker 1: some corporate somebody saying this is what you gotta say
36:58
Speaker 1: and this is what you gotta do. And that's what
36:59
Speaker 1: makes it so unique from the corporate media for sure.
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Speaker 3: Oh, well, yeah. I mean, we'll never, and you and
37:04
Speaker 3: I have chatted frequently about, because I just haven't done
37:08
Speaker 3: this for a long time. I feel like sometimes there's
37:12
Speaker 3: a better way to make an argument. And the only
37:14
Speaker 3: reason I say that is because I've screwed it up.
37:17
Speaker 3: I mean, after 10 years, there's not a single topic
37:20
Speaker 3: out there I think I haven't discussed. And there is
37:21
Speaker 3: sometimes I say to myself, I wish I would have
37:24
Speaker 3: said that differently, you know, not because I believe differently.
37:28
Speaker 3: I just think I could have been more persuasive in
37:30
Speaker 3: the argument. But whatever your arguments are, I mean, you know,
37:33
Speaker 3: you and I don't agree on everything. I'm like, you
37:35
Speaker 3: knock them dead. And I've got, you know, just like
37:38
Speaker 3: people complain about, you know, my show sometimes. I don't
37:40
Speaker 3: like what you said about that. I get people go, Dan,
37:42
Speaker 3: you and Evita don't think the same way about X issue. Well,
37:45
Speaker 3: that's the point. What do you think I want? I
37:47
Speaker 3: don't want to, you know, a clone. I wasn't looking
37:50
Speaker 3: for Dolly the sheep. I was looking for someone who's
37:52
Speaker 3: a powerful person. And I wanted a younger voice. I mean,
37:55
Speaker 3: I'm 50. You know, it's important. It's tautological to say
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Speaker 3: the young people are the next generation. They just are.
38:02
Speaker 3: It's a math problem. I don't know what it's like
38:05
Speaker 3: to be 20. I'm 50. I knew what it was
38:07
Speaker 3: like to be 20, you know, 30 years ago. So
38:11
Speaker 3: that's why we brought you and Haley on. And some
38:13
Speaker 3: of the other talent will be, you know, have different
38:16
Speaker 3: perspectives as well. But that's the long-term vision.
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Speaker 1: Well, I am so unbelievably grateful for the confidence that
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Speaker 1: you've had in me. the opportunity that you've given me here.
38:24
Speaker 1: I'm so happy where I'm at. So I just want
38:27
Speaker 1: you to know that. And for all of you guys listening,
38:30
Speaker 1: I hope you enjoyed this episode.
38:31
Speaker 2: Again, the producers are back there. They're like, you have
38:33
Speaker 2: to wrap it up. So we're going to wrap it up.
38:35
Speaker 1: But you guys, this was an amazing episode. I'm so
38:38
Speaker 1: glad for all of you tuning in.
38:39
Speaker 3: You're the best.
38:40
Speaker 2: And we're going to have Haley, of course, 6 p.m.
38:41
Speaker 1: We're going to have Vince Collignese filling in for Dan
38:45
Speaker 1: Bongino while he's serving his country. So I really appreciate
38:49
Speaker 1: everyone listening, early edition. 9 a.m. Eastern time, five days
38:53
Speaker 1: a week. Rumble.com slash Evita. You guys know where it's at.
38:57
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for tuning in.
38:58
Speaker 3: Thanks, guys. The U.S.
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Speaker 3: I'm your host, Megan Klingenberg, and I am super stoked
39:04
Speaker 3: to be joined by Daryl Dike.
39:06
Speaker 2: Arguably, your most impressive quality cannot be measured. You're a
39:09
Speaker 2: guy who is the definition of grit.
39:12
Speaker 1: Injuries have ended plenty of careers, but instead you decided
39:15
Speaker 1: yours would only be a chapter instead of the ending.
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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show, Daryl.
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Speaker 3: Thank you so much. That's a good intro right there.
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