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3 Guys Before The Game - Iowa State Game Recap (Episode 583) · 3 Guys Before The Game

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  Speaker 1: It's less than twelve hours since the UH Mountaineer game
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  Speaker 1: against Iowa State has been completed. So we're still in
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  Speaker 1: the UH. We're still in the UH. What'd you call it?
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  Speaker 1: It's not the cleansing mode. What would you say, hoppy,
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  Speaker 1: it's the the reality mode.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're just just absorbed. You're still absorbing processing, processing, processing,
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  Speaker 2: or if you're Canadian, is a processing we're processing.
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  Speaker 1: At twenty eight to sixteen final score, West Virginia falls
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  Speaker 1: to Iowa State. Remember last week after the Oklahoma State game,
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  Speaker 1: I said, number of texts decreases when they win, increases
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  Speaker 1: when you lose. It's just human nature, right, when you
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  Speaker 1: get upset, you react and like to thank all the
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  Speaker 1: folks at the paper company because we just made you
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  Speaker 1: money today. A lot of texts, all right, we'll get
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  Speaker 1: into those a little bit later on. We have not
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  Speaker 1: spoken really about the game yet. We don't do that
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  Speaker 1: until we hit the red record button. So let's find
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  Speaker 1: out what these two gentlemen are thinking.
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  Speaker 2: Hopster I loved the coal rush and the coal miners
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  Speaker 2: walking in with the team, and the coal mining business
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  Speaker 2: is complicated. There are a lot of things that have
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  Speaker 2: to go right to get the coal out of the crown,
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  Speaker 2: from underground into the shuttle car, out processed on the
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  Speaker 2: rail car the barge to the place that it needs
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  Speaker 2: to go. A lot of things brand have to go right. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: fair shuttle car breaks down and can get the miners
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  Speaker 2: to the point I don't do the roof bolt right,
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  Speaker 2: that's risky. Continuous mind. If you don't do routine maintenance
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  Speaker 2: on a continuous miner, then things are going to break down.
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  Speaker 2: So a lot of things have to go right to
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  Speaker 2: get that mintal while of the ground. If one or
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  Speaker 2: two things don't go right, or you don't take care
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  Speaker 2: of business, then you're not gonna mine coal, or you're
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  Speaker 2: not gonna move coal. So completing the metaphor for West Virginia,
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  Speaker 2: just not enough things went right for West Virginia. A
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  Speaker 2: couple of key penalties, a couple of turnovers, unable to
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  Speaker 2: move the ball. I know you have some other stats
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  Speaker 2: on this and you depend on the rush, but really
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  Speaker 2: the rush wasn't effective as you hoped it would be
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  Speaker 2: so just a couple of things did not go right.
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  Speaker 2: As a result, you lose the game to a team
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  Speaker 2: that did more things right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd have to say it's pretty dog going. Well done.
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  Speaker 1: You tied in the whole theme. Yeah, I tried to
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  Speaker 1: tie in the theme.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Do you have a sounder for my hoppies? Obvious observation.
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  Speaker 1: Let me see there's one here. Let me just do
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  Speaker 1: this because we never get to use these enough. You
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  Speaker 1: get a three second stinger.
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  Speaker 3: Well, now it's time for hoppies. Obvious observation that I
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  Speaker 3: will take. That was a good metaphor. By the way,
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  Speaker 3: the col rush was awesome. It was uniforms looked a
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  Speaker 3: great drone show, right, was fantastic. Crowd did its part.
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  Speaker 3: It's awesome, great, great, great promotion around that game.
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  Speaker 1: Loved it. It was awesome.
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  Speaker 3: Here's my obvious observation on this, and we'll get into
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  Speaker 3: the weeds. I realized, but macro, Iowa State did what
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  Speaker 3: it does better than West Virginia doing what it does
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  Speaker 3: best to win games as simple as that. Iowa State
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  Speaker 3: was what Iowa State has been defensively, even with all
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  Speaker 3: of their injuries, they made it difficult on West Virginia
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  Speaker 3: and didn't give you enough possessions to inefficient at times,
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  Speaker 3: and West Virginia was inefficient at times. Offensively, they didn't
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  Speaker 3: make mistakes. Their passing game was really good. Their quarterback
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  Speaker 3: was poised under control, did not make mistakes, and played
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  Speaker 3: extremely well in a really difficult road environment. That when
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  Speaker 3: you walked away from that, if you were looking outside
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  Speaker 3: in you went, that's what Iowa State has been about.
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  Speaker 3: And there's a lot of different angles to go. They
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  Speaker 3: were better at what they do than West Virginia was
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  Speaker 3: better at what it does. Iowa State wins the game.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh you're spot on, spot on. I come out
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  Speaker 1: of it just extremely disappointed. Yeah, just extremely disappointed. Yet
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  Speaker 1: yet again, another opportunity that is built up, and opportunity
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  Speaker 1: is right there in your hand, and you do not
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  Speaker 1: go out and play to the level of efficiency which
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  Speaker 1: is required to beat a very good team. And to
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  Speaker 1: your point, extremely impressed with Iowa State. If you were
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  Speaker 1: to watch that game, that is the absolute template of
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  Speaker 1: how Iowa State wins football game. Absolutely, I give them
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  Speaker 1: a ton of credit, and they were surgical. I just
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  Speaker 1: sent the text to Anthony Beck in fact and talking
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  Speaker 1: about his son's play Roco and I said he was surgical.
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  Speaker 1: He was an absolute total control the entire night. Not
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  Speaker 1: at one point did he look off kilter surgical, and
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  Speaker 1: they did so many different things. They do a lot
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  Speaker 1: of great stuff. They're unbalanced and just fantastic and threw
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  Speaker 1: the heck out of it. Conversely, conversely, you know West Virginia,
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  Speaker 1: you had your opportunities. Neil repeatedly said, Okay, this game
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  Speaker 1: is going to be decided on whether you get touchdowns
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  Speaker 1: once you get inside the red zone, the score zone,
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  Speaker 1: and you got it the first time. You missed the
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  Speaker 1: field goal and subsequently interceptions two interceptions that you could
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  Speaker 1: not make those and so their lack of playing clean
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  Speaker 1: cost them the game. This is this was not a
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  Speaker 1: hard game. You don't need to do calculus to figure
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  Speaker 1: out why this game was decided the way that it
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  Speaker 1: was decided. And with all that being said, it again
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  Speaker 1: becomes disappointing because offensively, these are the moments and these
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  Speaker 1: are the opportunities in the situations where a player or
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  Speaker 1: a group of players becomes the alpha dog and they
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  Speaker 1: take control of the game. Right through the years of
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  Speaker 1: Mountaineer football, you have to have someone that stands above
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  Speaker 1: all others and just makes high level plays and it
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  Speaker 1: did not and does not happen with great regularity. You
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  Speaker 1: can call them dogs. You could use curse words to
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  Speaker 1: describe that character of that person. And at this point
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  Speaker 1: you don't have that dog, and as a result, you
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  Speaker 1: lose the game.
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  Speaker 3: That that missed field goal and start with the the
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  Speaker 3: what you thought was a catch from Rodney Gallagher, they
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  Speaker 3: go back and review it. That that right there, starting
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  Speaker 3: at that moment, if it was rule to catch, if
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  Speaker 3: that stays a catch, now you're cooking it wasn't. It
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  Speaker 3: goes to incomplete. You start to felt like a missed opportunity. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: Michael Hayes coming on, hasn't missed that kick in two years,
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  Speaker 3: You're up to nothing, hasn't missed it all. Just go
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  Speaker 3: ahead and make take the points. Top go up to nothing.
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  Speaker 3: You're rolling there on their heels. There had to be
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  Speaker 3: a moment of that if you make that field goal.
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  Speaker 3: Iowa states gone, oh yeah, this is a tough place
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  Speaker 3: to play. Oh we didn't start well, there's a little
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  Speaker 3: bit of that and you miss it and you just
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  Speaker 3: felt it, didn't you You just you felt it like,
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  Speaker 3: uh oh, this that's a major moment in this game.
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  Speaker 3: It was early, there was a lot of football left.
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  Speaker 3: You had been mowing right through their defense, and it
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  Speaker 3: still felt like oh no, oh no here. And then
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  Speaker 3: three plays later a big play. You there's a wide
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  Speaker 3: open receiver just running clear with just green grass around him,
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  Speaker 3: and you felt, at least I felt at that moment,
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  Speaker 3: you've got big problems here tonight. It turned at least
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  Speaker 3: for me. Yeah, turned that fast for me. From look
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  Speaker 3: at that first drive. You just ran a perfect drive
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  Speaker 3: right down their throat. Eleven or fourteen plays told you
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  Speaker 3: they couldn't stop the run and you're just banging right
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  Speaker 3: on them, and then it just fell apart that quickly
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  Speaker 3: is what it felt like to me.
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  Speaker 1: And I share your thought on that possession on the
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  Speaker 1: Gallagher in completion drop whatever you want to call that.
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  Speaker 1: You go up there fourteen to nothing, and then the
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  Speaker 1: next level of emotion in that stadium ignites. And to
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  Speaker 1: your point, yes, it was only the second possession of
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  Speaker 1: the game. How can you say like it got away
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  Speaker 1: from you there? Because your margin for air, yes, is
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  Speaker 1: so small that possession does matter. Even though it's possession
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  Speaker 1: two out of nine in the game. That one's good
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  Speaker 1: there's only nine possessions.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's but I thought, and I know what you're
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  Speaker 2: saying about the field goal, and I generally agree, but
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  Speaker 2: the fact you were able to move the ball twice
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  Speaker 2: and then you missed that field goal, but you were
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  Speaker 2: able to move the ball twice effectively at that point,
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  Speaker 2: to me, the bigger sign was then when they got
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  Speaker 2: their possession and big played you.
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  Speaker 1: That to me was that was more of a warning
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  Speaker 1: sign to me that.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, oh they can they can big play you, and
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  Speaker 2: how they did it indicated that you still have these
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  Speaker 2: defensive problems that they were able to exploit.
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  Speaker 3: And yet now I'll talk out of the other side
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  Speaker 3: of my mouth. Then you come out at halftime and listen,
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  Speaker 3: Iowa State thought that same thing. They were ultra aggressive
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  Speaker 3: at the end of the first half, right. That wasn't
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  Speaker 3: a team that was making Okay, we're going to take
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  Speaker 3: one shot and try and get a field goal here,
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  Speaker 3: and if we don't, we'll just run out the clock.
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  Speaker 3: That was a use every time out give me the ball,
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  Speaker 3: We're going to attack you.
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  Speaker 1: Guys.
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  Speaker 3: We think we've got you on the ropes. You come
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  Speaker 3: out in the second half and here comes the defense.
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  Speaker 3: Nice job, defense, you get off the field twice, forced
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  Speaker 3: two punts after what looked in a first half like
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  Speaker 3: you might have to score forty to win. The defense
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  Speaker 3: then did its job to start the second half, and
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  Speaker 3: there goes the offense. The offense can't get itself going.
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  Speaker 3: So you did get back in with a chance, you're
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  Speaker 3: down four, and the offense then couldn't take the baton
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  Speaker 3: and go up.
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  Speaker 2: You did, and that's a great point. The offense then
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  Speaker 2: stalled out badly in the second half. By the same token, though,
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  Speaker 2: Iowa State just said, well, I'll tell you what we're
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  Speaker 2: gonna We're gonna just gonna line up. We're gonna give
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  Speaker 2: it to Hanson and he's gonna run for one hundred yards.
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  Speaker 2: He's gonna score three touchdowns. And so they were able
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  Speaker 2: to manage the clock and put together long drives and
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  Speaker 2: limited your possibilities.
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  Speaker 1: It choked you out. Yeah, yeah, they they squeezed it.
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  Speaker 1: They squeezed it. The absolutely they choked it. I said,
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  Speaker 1: come here, come here, a little bit more almost take
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  Speaker 1: a little bit more air, Gonna take a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, those were epic, epic drive. They were in
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  Speaker 1: someone in the text line a little later and I
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  Speaker 1: said this during that So this is like water torture
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  Speaker 1: that you're going through right now. They're just dripping and dripping,
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  Speaker 1: or paper cuts like one paper cut at a time,
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  Speaker 1: one paper cut at a time. That was I keep
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  Speaker 1: saying the word surgical. That was surgical.
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  Speaker 3: You look at moments in games where you where you
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  Speaker 3: can seize the advantage or not. And that's why I
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  Speaker 3: think that the missfield goal was so massive because and
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  Speaker 3: here's why to play that further. You got that they
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  Speaker 3: missed a field goal, right, So now the advantage. Right,
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  Speaker 3: you're a big tennis guy, so that the right that swings.
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  Speaker 3: You get their team to miss a field goal, that's
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  Speaker 3: usually a good sign. You go on a nearly eight
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  Speaker 3: minute drive to start and where they almost the entire
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  Speaker 3: first quarter out and you bury him, and you're going, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: that's an advantage that we get. We get two points
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  Speaker 3: of advantage right there in this game. That's a great sign.
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  Speaker 3: Oh hold on, wait, now we missed a field goal.
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  Speaker 3: What's regin missus field they're saying that to themselves, we
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  Speaker 3: miss one. Now that gives that advantage back. Oh wait,
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  Speaker 3: they just went on an eight minute drive too. You
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  Speaker 3: gave that advantage back, so the stuff you had seized,
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  Speaker 3: you gave it right back to them. You mentioned those
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  Speaker 3: drives actually eight possessions, Tony.
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  Speaker 1: I no nine, they had nine. I was stated at nine.
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  Speaker 1: West Virginia only had eight. So here's talking to you.
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  Speaker 3: And Hopo was one of my keys to the game yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: Was it not right? In the red zone? You've got
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  Speaker 3: to convert because you're not going to get a lot
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  Speaker 3: of those possessions. And that's where that margin of error,
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  Speaker 3: Tony that you mentioned comes into play. You have the
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  Speaker 3: two touchdowns, you had a field goal, and then you
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  Speaker 3: missed a field goal. That's it. That's half of your
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  Speaker 3: drives were ten plays or more. You did have a
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  Speaker 3: little bit of success. And I'm gonna get into this
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  Speaker 3: that these numbers do not match at least what I
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  Speaker 3: felt walking out after that game. This was a lot
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  Speaker 3: closer than what that game felt like.
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  Speaker 2: Then, when the statistically, I mean yeah, when statistically the
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  Speaker 2: fact that it looks better, what's that come down to?
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  Speaker 2: It comes down to a couple of things. Comes down
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  Speaker 2: to a couple turnovers, the missed field goal, and just
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  Speaker 2: not making a play or two or three when you
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  Speaker 2: needed to.
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  Speaker 3: You really could have called this episode missed opportunity. That's
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  Speaker 3: what the overall story of this day was a missed
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  Speaker 3: golden opportunity for the program to move it forward around
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  Speaker 3: a great event. And then within the game that's what
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  Speaker 3: cost you the game. Where missed opportunities within the game.
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  Speaker 2: Remember it was a five on the opportunity scoo.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but just scored a zero on the result, right
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  Speaker 3: because you just didn't seize it right exactly.
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  Speaker 1: No, I'm looking at the numbers right now statistically, and
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  Speaker 1: you you got hot, You've got the analytics, and I've
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  Speaker 1: just got the base numbers. So West Virginia gives them
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  Speaker 1: the ball twice, so I alway stayed as nine possessions.
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  Speaker 1: I was stayed, only had forty more yards of offense
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  Speaker 1: three ninety four to three fifty four average per play
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  Speaker 1: in the game. This will be a surprising stat for people.
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  Speaker 1: The average per play in the game was five point
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  Speaker 1: five for both teams.
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  Speaker 3: Dude, I'm telling you, well here, let me just jump
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  Speaker 3: in because I've got this.
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  Speaker 1: This this is I want you to start spreads on this.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I've got more stats, but this discounts, so it's
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  Speaker 3: an early com CPA spread on sets because this part
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  Speaker 3: to me is when when you walk out, they went
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  Speaker 3: on a twenty eight to three run. That game didn't
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  Speaker 3: feel close for a long time. Right you scored the touchdown,
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  Speaker 3: they go on twenty three round.
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  Speaker 1: It didn't feel What I say, it's not basketball. You
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  Speaker 1: can't go on twenty eight three run, twenty three run.
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  Speaker 3: Needed a timeout or something, I mean to stop, like,
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  Speaker 3: call time out. You needed a TV time out. Knock
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  Speaker 3: the ball out of bounds, get a TV time out,
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  Speaker 3: do something, take a charge, a charge, reignite the crowd. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: they were getting outlet passes running down the floor on you.
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  Speaker 3: Total yards three ninety four to three, fifty four first downs,
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  Speaker 3: twenty three twenty two third down conversions conversions nine to
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  Speaker 3: fourteen for Iowa state, nine of thirteen for West Virginia.
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  Speaker 3: Yards per play, as you mentioned, five point five per team.
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  Speaker 1: That's why I said this game is easy to figure out,
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  Speaker 1: super simple game to figure out. You gave them the game.
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  Speaker 1: You made fatal mistakes. They're plus nine on the year
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  Speaker 1: on turnovers. Yeah you're not. No, you're nine.
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  Speaker 3: What is their plus minus now minus five? There's only
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  Speaker 3: six Power four teams that are worse.
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  Speaker 1: Can't win it.
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  Speaker 3: So you wonder why you're treading water at three and
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  Speaker 3: three with some close losses. It is just the margin
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  Speaker 3: for air is a big word, Tony. You said that earlier,
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  Speaker 3: that that's a theme for this season. In this league,
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: you just don't have a lot of opportunities where you
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  Speaker 3: cannot be at your best and get wins over very
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  Speaker 3: solid programs, all of them very solid programs. And you
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: can't go in and get a pump block for a
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  Speaker 3: touchdown at pitt and walk out.
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  Speaker 1: With a win.
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  Speaker 3: You can't lose turnover battles to nothing in multiple games
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  Speaker 3: and get wins. And unfortunately, that's what west Fredi has
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  Speaker 3: been doing. That's been the story of this offense, where
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: last year it was the opposite story. How many times
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: did we talk about how great they were at taking
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  Speaker 3: care of the ball. They just didn't give turnovers. They
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  Speaker 3: just didn't give it away and that allowed that offense
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  Speaker 3: to efficiently get going and add to the playbook and
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  Speaker 3: be more creative and get defenses problems. You're not only
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: turning it over this year, you know. Brandon Yates and
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  Speaker 3: Neil said afterwards that he had a hand issue. The
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: snaps were a real issue last night guys. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: you're somewhere around seventeen to twenty percent of the snaps
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  Speaker 3: on the night were not where they needed to be,
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: so they didn't result in a catastrophe, which I thought
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: was coming all night. I thought there was an over
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: the head coming, Garrett getting his hand on the ball.
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: You know, basketball charts deflections. Garrett had a lot of
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: deflections and controlled it. But it throws off timing, and
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: this offense is built on timing. So if a fifth
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: of your plays are going to be thrown off against
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: a defense, that makes you be ultra efficient. Too many inefficiencies.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: Green did have double digit rebounds in the game.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: It's not funny, but it's funny. You're right, You're absolutely
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: right that that was as close to watching someone like
• 17:19
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• 17:30
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• 17:33
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• 17:36
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• 17:40
  Speaker 1: was kind of a microcosm of the night. You were
• 17:43
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• 17:45
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• 17:48
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  Speaker 3: All right, jump around here, and this is the overall
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: theme of this is going to be the numbers and
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: the way you walk out of that stadium feeling in
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: terms of the disappointment. Don't match each other here. So
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: let's do what we do. Let's go back to the
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: previous show and recap what we said. Because this was
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: an all time this should have happened, and it didn't.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: The fact that you didn't run and bury these guys
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: via the run, We'll go down all season hobby. I
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: will come back to that all season long. The numbers
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: showed you you should have been able to run more
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: in West three. It was fine, average four point six
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: yards per carry, one hundred and fifty yards RUSS one
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: hundred and forty eight top exact. Fine, but that was
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: not the performance you needed on the ground in order
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: to win this game. Given what Iowa State's numbers told you,
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: and given the depletionate linebacker, those injuries did come to
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: fruition and that's where i West Virginia didn't do enough
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: job with the depleted unit to run it. Credit Iowa
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: State for those guys being able to step in.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Guys.
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: They had a kid by the name of Ryland Barnes
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: from britt Iowa, a walk on for them, a red
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: shirt freshman walk on plugged in. Wasn't the only one.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: They had another true freshman Book good Win that played
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: at linebacker. They were not going with their normal linebackers.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: Rylan Barnes ends up as the sixth best defender for
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: Iowa State. Hats off, Hats off to that kid, But
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: West Virginia should have been able to punish that defense
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: running the ball, and you just didn't do enough of it.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: If I had told you on Thursday that Garrett was
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: going to go for eighty seven yards on the ground
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: and eight point seven yards per carry, fingers say that's
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: probably a win, and throw it like they threw it
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: that that's a win almost every time. You know what gotcha?
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: This number blew me away. Two point five yards per
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: carry for West Virginia's running backs, Yeah, yeah, right right there.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: This team can't win many games when that happens. That
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: had to be more successful running it. And again some
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: of that we outlined. It was the game plan had
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: to change when you got behind, and the inability to
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: get an efficient offense because the snaps were throwing off
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: right away. That caught you right there. You got half
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: your rushing yards on that in the first quarter, which
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: is basically most of that first drive.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: Okay, stop right there, those are your two biggest numbers,
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: So Jaheim White and CJ. Donaldson twenty one carries for
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: sixty three yards. Not going to get it. And you said,
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: give me that number again.
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: You just said, Yeah, you ran for seventy six yards
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: in the first quarter. You finished with one hundred and
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: forty eight rushing yards. I do the math, right, it's
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: a little more than half right.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: So you got seventy two yards after your first drive
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: for the rest quarter quarter, the first core, seventy two
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: yards in the second, third, and fourth court.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: You can't win ballgame, ball game against a team that
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: was struggling to stop the run.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: And but to your point, that's what's deceiving. If you
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: just take a look at the stack numbers, they average
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: four point six yards per carre. It's good enough to win. Yeah,
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: not really, it was not. It was not in this night,
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: all right.
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: One of the other things we talked about incessantly, hop
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: and I know I wore you out during the game
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: last night talking about it. What part of the field
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: was open during the passing game the middle of the field.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: Said in the preview, you've got to run it to
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: suck them up, hit them between then start to get
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: some plays. It was there all night.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: You saw it.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: We said, going in what that Garrett had a sixty
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: eight percent completion percentage on throws from ten to twenty
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: yards from the line of scrimmage in the middle of
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: the field. That's where you have to cook. That's where
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: you have to cook against Iowa State in that zone
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: six of ten for one hundred and five of his
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: two hundred and six passing yards.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: Right there. It was good.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: Now, expand that out middle of the field from the
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: line of scrimmage to twenty yards downfield fourteen of twenty one,
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: sixty seven percent completion percentage for one seventy of his
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: two oh six. It was right there. So had you
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: run it a little bit better and you're hitting the
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: pass and you're working Cole Taylor and you got Cole
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: Taylor against those linebackers and you got Trailon Ray against
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: it was work. It was right there. You just couldn't
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: do enough to get through with that. We mentioned already
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: the turnover margin that was that was just the biggest
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: thing right there. You just continue to struggle with giving
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: the ball back to the other team. That was a
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: major part last night. Some other just odd numbers here
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: that when you look at it overall, take some PFF grades.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: That was Iowa State's second worst defensive grade. Really did
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: that feel like the second worst defensive grade for an Iowa.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: State defensive team? No?
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: No, did it feel like a really good offensive performance
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: for for West Virginia.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Not really?
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: Right, second worst coverage grade for Iowa State. Talked all
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: week about their defensive backs. You had some success throwing
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: the football. That was a below average tackling grade for
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: Iowa State in that game, although they had some moments.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: You had Jaheem White on the edge in a one
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: on one matchup that has the potential to be a
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: fifty or sixty yard run, and you take Jahem matt
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: Jeheim White in that matchup, ten times out of ten
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: he goes to shake. Iowa State defender made a nice
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: play in the open field. Those were things You've got
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: to get those in a game when it was a
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: few plays could have flipped that around.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: So that's when I'm talking going back to my initial
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: point about someone making a big time play. Those are
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: those opportunities where you break a tackle and you scoot
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: and you're gone, huge momentum builder for your team. The
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: crowd blows up, but it doesn't. It just becomes this
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: you just don't get this is all about energy and
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: emotion and what was.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: The crowd Like, when did the crowd because crowd was
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: into it big for how long? Then when did it dissipate?
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: Probably the middle of the third quarter when you feel
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: like you're getting paper cutted. Okay, you know you hang
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: in there, but you just you didn't like the vibe.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: You loved the vibe. After the first drive you lost
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: the vibe. You lost the vibe. And also there's sixty
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: yard touchdown reception on the blown assignment that also was
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: like a huge O blank. Yeah, I've seen this before.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: None of the missfield I just get. Just it slowly evaporates.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and yet there were those moments. But you go
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: back to those two receivers Higgins and Noel that we
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: talked about so much, and listen, they're both super talented
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: eleven catches one hundred and seventy nine yards, but you
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: end a touchdown streak at seven games for Higgins he
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: didn't have one. Noel had won on that one. So
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: had you told me that on Thursday, that you held
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: them to one touchdown catch there, I would have said Okay,
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: you're probably in you hold rock O to one touch
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: down pass. He'd thrown multiple touchdown passes in eight of
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: nine games. And that's what I'm saying. Like Rocco was outstanding.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: I thought he was really good. And listen, that's not
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: a surprise, guys. If we know Anthony forever, you know
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: how Rocco has come up, and you've watched him. He
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: knew he was going to come in here and not
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: be flustered by all the stuff going on around him,
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: and he.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: Handled his business.
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: But if you had told me one touchdown pass and
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: Higgins didn't have one, I'd say, okay, you're right there.
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: But yet I felt like their passing game was really
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: really good.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: Last wik, well you were a third down. They absolutely
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: kept drive alive, drives alive on third down. I mean
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: countless times West Virginia's defense could not get off of
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: the field. They're throwing well executed passes right to the stick,
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: getting the first down, keeping drives alive. So let's hop
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: one side.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: Let me give a Rocco real quick here to put
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: a cap on his performance. And again, this is not
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: a surprise, guys. We talk about this a lot. We
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: said it going in. You've got to be able to
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: get some pressure on him. One of the differences with
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: him this year, he's more apt to run so he
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: can avoid pressure. He's good with his legs. This was
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: a little different. They called some more design runs for
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: him this game, in high leverage third and in the
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: fourth down situation. But how about this fifteen of eighteen
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: for Roco eighty three percent completion percentage for two hundred
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: and nine of his two hundred and sixty five yards
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: when he was not pressured.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I watched the tape of him before the
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: Baylor tape. That's what I saw. If you don't, if
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: you don't in get in his face and make him
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: move a little bit, he will stroke you out.
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: Which is quarterbacks in this league. If you're a starting
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: quarterback in this league and you don't get to him
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: and they can stand, they're going to crush you.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: He did.
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: That's too many attempts with no pressure for a really accurate,
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: good quarterback under pressure three of eight thirty seven and
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: a half percent for fifty six yards. You want to
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: help your defensive backs get some pressure. Western he did
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: at times, not nearly enough. Okay, I'll go ahead sorry.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: Well, just that you're right if you would have said,
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: will you take a Higgins getting no getting six or
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: seven receptions, no touchdowns, So you go, yeah, okay, I'll
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: take that. But the difference is does somebody else do something? Okay,
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: you're subtracting with Higgins, but does somebody else step up?
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: Like at West Virginia Karay Green, you know, didn't run
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: the ball, but CJ. Donaldson had one hundred and ten
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: yards to go. Okay, I'll make that trade. So for
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: Iowa State Hanson. You know, how much do we talk
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: about Hanson come into the game, didn't mention we mentioned
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: his name? And he runs for one hundred yards and
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: three touchdowns. So that makes up for Higgins not getting
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: a touchdown?
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: Right? Yeah? So okay, so Hanson really good? Right?
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: One hundred yards, three touchdowns, team average under three yards
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: of carry. Then why is it saying so you're un
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: You're running game one?
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: Good?
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: You held them in check. They couldn't run the ball.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: They thought their running game was back. They'd run for
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: two hundred yards in two hundred yards rushing in three
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: straight games. You held them to two point nine per carry.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: I talked about pressure. You didn't get enough pressure on Roco.
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: They'd given up four sacks coming into the game, top
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: five in the country.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: You got two.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: So the raw numbers, this is one of those times
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: when statistics did lie to you. You see some of
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: these raw numbers without having watched the game, and you went, well,
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: what the heck happened there? And so you're right tony
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: to oversimplify it. Just the mistakes. You miss a field goal,
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: you have two turnovers, ball game. You want some grades?
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I might as well go ahead again to.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: Stay with the theme of lying, lying, statistics lying to you.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: This was pff wise And again these will early Sunday morning,
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: they will mature a little bit, but they're in the ballpark.
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: Second best overall grade on the season for you.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: Really, really, it's hard to believe.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: Offensively overall grade includes offense and defense. That was your
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: second out I'm taking out all, but it's your second
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: best game overall grade.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: Huh. That shocks me.
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: Passing game, second best over second best passing grade, just
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: slightly behind the Kansas game passball fucking second best game.
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: Defense eight tenths of a point off your best games.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: So what do you make of that?
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: You know, how I like to give you some analytics
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: to back up what you saw. I don't think they
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: didn't feel like they matched to me. Now, if you
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: listen to Neil afterwards, it was interesting. Neil wasn't. Neil's
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: reaction was similar to what I'm saying from a number standpoint,
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: where he didn't feel like it was a total disaster collapse.
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: Recognize it was a disappointing loss. But we did this,
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: We did this, We were right there in these categories.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: A couple missed opportunities retitled the show missed Opportunities. Yeah,
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: I don't know what the takeaway is from that, guys,
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: I don't know what the takeaway is That the numbers
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: lied to you a little bit loss, still disappointing loss. Yeah,
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: did I just find that interesting how that graded out.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: It's fascinating.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Go back to Macro and that is what is the
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: what is the desire of Mountaineer Nation, and that is
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: win some of these games.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: Okay, it's a close game, you're you're a home dog.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: Everything is set up for you win the game, and
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: there haven't been enough. Last week was great against Okloma State, Like, oh, okay,
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: you go on the road against the opponent you've struggled
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: with and you and you dominate the game. So you're
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: looking Tony for more of those kinds of games where statistically,
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: even though it doesn't look like at times, statistically it's
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: very even or even played pretty well at times, then
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: you have to find a way to win the game
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: in that in that situation. And that's been one of
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: the criticisms of Neil Brown is you've not been able
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: to win enough of those.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: Games, correct, as is evidenced in the upcoming textual Healing. Okay,
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: that's what the fan I mean, what you just said
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: is basically what the fan base is. As we said
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: when whatever the game that was, whether it was Kansas
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: earlier this season. You know, all of this is based
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: upon emotion. All of this is based upon emotion. And
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: as a fan, when you come in and you engage
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: in the opportunity to watch, you know, high risk, high reward.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: We often say that, right, and the general consensus is that, like,
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: you have to give me something to replenish my desire.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: I need. I need a little shot of dopamine, so
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: to speak. And every time I come out of here
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: instead of that, it feels like, right, I'm not getting
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: that and yeah, I got a little bit of a tick.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: That's what's that's what's happening. You build it up. But
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: that's the that's the risk reward that we do in
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: following sports and following teams, whatever the team is. You engage,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: you invest, You don't get it negative reaction.
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: And on these moments, when the emotional investment is more
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: or higher, the crash is greater. Yes, yes, right, And
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: so this was one of those with all of the
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: stuff going around it and all the fun and excitement
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: and the momentum you had built, the emotional investment had
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: been elevated. So the crash is going to be harder
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: and the feeling of disappointment is greater.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it right. I mean during the game,
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: oh my gosh, you were beside yourself. Well it's a
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: double crash because you lost the game and you have
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: a terrible feeling because it was all set up, it
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: was a huge event. And then if you do take
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: the time to look at the statistics and say, oh
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: my gosh, it's worse than I thought because you were
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: statistically there.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: And can't win the game, it makes you more angry. Yeah, yeah,
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: exactly right, makes you more angry makes you want to scream.
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: Last last one and then let's move on. Because the
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: numbers are the numbers, and they're lying to us today anyway,
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: So I'm done with the numbers. Only four rush plays
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: of ten yards or more. So they six again back
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: to my original hobbies. Obvious observation that I delivered today.
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: They they Iowa State and defensively in this case, did
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: what they do. You're not You're not gonna big play us.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: We're gonna keep everything out in front of us.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: And that was the case.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: West Virginia couldn't pop that big running play on the
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: outside in particular or straight up the middle of you
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: in so clod.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: Stand spreads on stats brought to us by Conley CPA
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  Speaker 1: the state of West Virginia, family owned for four decades.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: I often say that they sell the avalon boats which
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: are manufactured in Michigan.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: And Michigan or Minnesota, Missisian, Missig.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: Michigan and souh friend of the program came to me
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: at the the other night. I saw her and she's
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: she's the friend of the up with the Avalons. She's
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: up there Micheon. She said, the Avalons sounds like there's
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: at least two of them that run there. That the
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: manufacturer these boats made one hundred percent made in America,
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: and that's what the boats Lou Wendell sells. She says,
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: they're giddy about three guys. Oh really, that we're we're
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: actually talking about avalons. Most talk about Avalon since Frankie Avalon.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: So the Avalon boats a premier pontoon boat, and the
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• 36:24
  Speaker 2: Good job stats.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: Those are weird stats. It may be the weirdest batch
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: of stats that we've seen since you started doing this.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: Weird actually didn't make you feel better, made you feel worse?
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: Can there's there there has to be then a stat
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: for didn't you What was the stat you had? It
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: was something about what was it called something factor?
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: Where you got anything, especially you're holding back on a
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: senator any kind of a special factor stat.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: Oh no, there's something there should be then a stat
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: that says even though even though yea, I know what
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: he means, it's a there's like a.
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: Oh win probability, win expectancy.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's usually what we go to.
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: Now, I have all looked at it now, But but
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: that's that's gonna be the other weird thing. I'm sure
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: the Iowa State win expectancy, and that was in the
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: ninety percent because it never did it ever feel after
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: that first quarter? Did it ever feel like West Virginia
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: was there? No, you were down four, it felt like fourteen. Yes, right,
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: so I'll look up what postgame I didn't, but I
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: will right now.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: All right, no extra charge, that's coming up. Time now
• 37:36
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• 37:57
  Speaker 1: corrected again. What what numbers.
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: Postgame win expectancy for Iowa State? Just sixty percent.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: So that's when they take all the data in and
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: they say Okay, based upon these numbers.
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: This because they're looking at the numbers, we are, so
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: again real feel that's not kind of like wind chill factor,
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: Like what's the temperature, then what's the real feel windfield
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: windschill factor.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: Okay, So, as I said earlier on, as we jump
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: into this stuff, more than we can use, but general
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: themes will be communicated. You'll get the gist. If your
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: text did not get used, nothing against you, it's just
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: that just so many All right, let's do this. Sean
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: and Raleigh. Good morning, gentlemen. Well they did it again.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: This team gets me excited and then they just throw
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: a big bucket of cold water on me. And to
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: be honest, I'm getting a little tired of it. I'm
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: sure there are plenty of tax that assigned blame fairly, unfairly, singularly, collectively,
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: So I'm not going to do that. I'll just say this,
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: at some point, you are what your record says you are.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: I do understand the reality, but we're kind of spinning
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: the wheels and that's deflating on many levels. All that
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: being said, the Big Twelve has got to do something
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: with this officiating. It's every single game across the board. Anyway,
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: on to the next Sean.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: And Raley, Hey on that a question? So on the
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: holding call.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: In the end zone and the end zone zones.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: So, but the hold occurred before the pass which was uncatchable, right,
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: so therefore it's a legitimate call, right, I mean Neil
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: Brown lost his breath. So what, guys, what's what's the
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: call there? I mean they threw the flag before the pass,
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: before the throwing away the ball.
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: You're gonna make me get all the texts again there,
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: but yells at me when I say it's officiating.
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: I think it's probably fair to say this. When that
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: crew is reviewed for its performance on the field, it
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: will not be a good night really to be a
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: zebra wherever you may be. I think that's a fair statement.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: Fair statement, fair statement. I think Neil was most livid
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: on the Cole Taylor pass interference that he did not
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: get that he was hyped Texter. Unconfirmed report that Hoppy
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: was in Eugene, Oregon for college game day signed by
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: Mike from well there he is. There's all huh oh,
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: not bad. That's Pete, theamil, that's Pete. I think they
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: hit him with some silly string or something like that. Texter, Hey,
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: three guys bo from Somersville long text alert, I need
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: some textual healing. I'll start by saying, this is not
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: a fire Neil text, nor am I a fire Neil crazy.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: I would, however, like your guy's opinions on a few numbers.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: West Virginia is one of four Power four teams not
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: to be ranked in the AP Top twenty five since
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: Neil took over at West Virginia. The other three are
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: Texas Tech, Surprise, Vanderbilt, and Yes, Rutgers. With all due
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: respect to touch on Tony's comment Thursday, west Virginia should
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: expect to win and compete with top twenty five schools.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: I completely agree. Asking for a one to one split
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: not the West Virginia way. However, West Virginia now two
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: and fifteen against top twenty five schools at WVU from
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty through twenty twenty four in the Big twelve
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: under five hundred versus Power four programs, that is not
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: the WV way. If we look great one week, then
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: blow the next. Inconsistent, no true identity. I will be
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: back at seven am next week picking up by revcv's
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: game day barbecue tray which is a ten out of
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: ten and each game after. But at what point does
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: he genuinely lose the fan base? Seems like that time
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: as near wins can change minds fast, but he doesn't
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: seem to be able to win consistently enough to save it.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: Hope it proves me wrong. I'd like to know your
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: thoughts on his thoughts. Thanks for listening. Keep up the
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: great work.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: I'll give you mine.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: And that is.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: Rin Baker is not looking for a reason to fire
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: Neil Brown. Rin Baker is up on Neil Brown. You
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: know situations bad where athletic directors are looking for an
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: opportunity to move on to the next coach. Right, Yes,
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: Rin Baker is not doing that.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: A B.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: He's still responsible for having a winning program, so he's
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: got to look at it in a practical, analytical way,
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: not an emotional way. C. Because of the financial Because
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: of the financials, Neil Brown, this team could go five
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: and seven, four and eight, and I don't. My opinion
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: is Rin Baker would not fire would not fire Neil
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: Brown for a couple of reasons, including the financials. D
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: If you go five and seven, four and eight, then
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: next year, the following year becomes a determinative year. And
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: if you would go five and seven, four and eight
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: the next year, Thenrin Baker would I think his hand
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: would be forced. That's my opinion.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: Texter. Good morning, three guys. This game proved quite the
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: conundrum for WVU football. On one hand, create a big
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: event and revenue stream with new uniforms, new merchandise. On
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: the other hand, create huge expectations and motivation for the
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: opponent to ruin your special atmosphere in the future. Be conventional,
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: just take care of business on the field.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: Do you go back to the uniforms again?
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: Yes, reason because they look great?
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: Yes, okay, just wondering.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: Yes, you know, I'm not a uniform guy, but man,
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: those are nice. Yeah, they're great. Those numbers, the way
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: they reflect off the light, that was like perfect. And
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: Mountaineer Nation responded, you know, you get the back.
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: You can't be in a the one week doesn't work
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: and you and you change everything about your entire operation.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: You just got to keep coming.
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: You mean, the gray uniforms, but just all of it,
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: just everything, fire, fire, the entire coaching. You just got
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: to keep you got to keep coming. And yes, you've
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: got to win games. And yes, that was a missed
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: opportunity last night. And yes, you've got to get back
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: to the point where you're more consistent. You do, I
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: get it, But you can't scrap everything each week and
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: then be back in when there's two wins and everything's great.
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: It's just it's not that you got to take the
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: totality of it. You got to regroup now and find
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: a way to get a win over a very good
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: Kansas State team coming.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: And you and again you can call for I know
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: the folks that you know want have wanted Neil Brown
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: gone from the very beginning. Rin Baker is not going
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: to fire Neil Brown this season.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: Walk that down not going to happen, period.
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: And Guys, I've said this many times. Is why you
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: have to look at it in totality here And so
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: I get that. I get the disappointment of you've got
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: to get over the hump here, But then you're balancing
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: that with how far away are you? Are you further
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: away or are you closer? And then you start to
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: do your three losses or to teams that are eighteen
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: to zero. Should you have beaten one of those?
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah? You sure you should have. Yeah, Texter in game text,
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: Iowa State just scored made to twenty one to ten.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: Iowa State's a better team. Doesn't hold on third in goal,
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: converts third downs, catches passes, doesn't turn it over. Unfortunately,
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: year six, Neil's records are mediocre. Just being honest, I
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: love the Mountaineers. Really frustrating. I'm hoping for six and six.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: See you at the food court for the Baylor game.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: I love the show Rich Satellite Beach, Florida. Can I
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: insert one more number? I said, I was done with
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: the numbers. Yeah, success rate for the game offensive success rate,
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: which is what a play considered to be successful. I'll
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: give the exact definition a play is considered to be successful.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: That's awesome, goodness gracious here two, you want some time?
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: It's my turnover.
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd had a turnover.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: What's the thing refreshing on you?
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: If it's successful at least if you get fifty percent
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: of the yards on first down that are needed, and then.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: It goes on from there.
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: I won't stay out my shoos I'm having I'm having
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: a thousand pat snaps.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: I can't get my timing work in here either.
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: See it happened West Virginia in three of the four
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: quarters last night had better than fifty percent success rate
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: sixty seven percent in the first, fifty five percent in
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: the third, sixty two percent. Three of the four quarters.
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: So it shows up green, right, there's green or red.
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: I alway stayed only had one quarter where it had
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: offense success better than fifty percent on first down. No,
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: the whole, the whole drive overall. I was just part
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: of the definition includes first down.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: Jenny's text. I won't harp on the game. I'm sure
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: the text line full of stuff. I just want to
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: say thank you for the food court this season. Every
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: time I visit, I meet new people. I interacted with
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: Joel just happened to see the food court when he
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: stopped in. Plus it was great to see three guys,
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: especially after it got dark. By the way, I made
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: a new friend while tailgating. He's doing some good work
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: with the NBA team in Cleveland, signed by Elite one.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: So was Gansey here? I don't know it? Did thought?
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: Who's is he talking about? Gans?
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: Well?
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: Maybe he saw it.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: P Jane Jennings was.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he was there. Looks totally different with his beard off.
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah I don't hell.
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: Mustash back though. Yeah, thanks Jennings.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: I always appreciate you, Texter. We had our picture made.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: You'll probably show it yeah later. The biggest solace, says
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: Ben in Chicago's that I take from this game is
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: that because the Iowa legislature never finished all twenty eight
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: locks on the Des Moines River in the eighteen forties
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: and fifties, the Cyclones will not be able to enjoy
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: a pleasant pond tune ride from Morgantown back to Ames
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: on one of those avalon boats from lou Wendell.
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: They're high stepping right now, though, first time they've won
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: their first six games since nineteen thirty eight, Yeah, which
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: included wins in thirty eight brand over what was that school?
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: You meant Luther Luthor, big rival, and of course they
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: had wins over Luther Marquette and somebody else said you Luther.
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: They couldn't stop me. Said, serve that up. I'm gonna
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: drill you. I went up there in my senior year,
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: went about eight hits in a double header. Thought, line up,
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: just beat your ass and then we're out of here.
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: Freakin' Luther, get out of here with your Luther.
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: Where is Luther? Cora? Iowa Cora did you play spring baseball.
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: Just lined up in an orange and black bus, just
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: rode right into Decora, said, come on, boys, we're here.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: Did you guys play spring baseball in high school? High school?
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: No summer baseball? What do you mean by that?
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: The high school season was in the summer after school
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: was over.
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: Correct, hmm, probably followed her the regular rules though about practice.
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: You can get about two days of nice weather in
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: Iowa in the spring summer.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: No reason to take a shot at your home state's weather. Hey,
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: three guys. On the bright side, West Virginia has only
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: lost to teams that are undefeated to this point of
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: the season. Hopefully better weekends are ahead. Signed by j
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: D from the Southern coal Fields, Ryan from Arden Rights
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: in game text after Garrett's second I int you guys
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: nailed it. It basically came down a Roco against Garrett.
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: Rocco was the cleaner QB texter man. Matt Campbell's a
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: good coach and he's got a heck of a staff
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: to go with it. Hats off to Iowa stay forwithstanding
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: a good West Virginia start and doing exactly what they
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: wanted to the rest of the way. Go get them
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: next week. Greg and Pittsburgh Texter. We've now lost to
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: three ranked undefeated teams and beat three teams we should
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: have beaten. Although tonight was disappointing, we still have a
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: tremendous opportunity ahead of us if we can manage to
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: beat a good Case State team take care of business
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: rest of the season. I don't think these three losses
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: will look too bad when all is said and done.
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: Ps Cole rush unis looked absolutely amazing. Matt and Matthews,
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: North Carolina Texter. Hey, three guys, West Virginia deserve to lose.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: The interceptions, multiple bat snaps, broke in coverages too much,
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: but one penalty against a powerfour team on the road,
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: that is nuts. Sean in Shanesburg, Washington State Texter. This
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: is Jason sitting here at the game, four forty two
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: to go. I have an Iowa State fan sitting next
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: to me, adding insult to injury. He just says to me, Hey,
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: thanks for having us. Not even sure what to say.
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: Damn it Texter. You know what, props to them. They
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: get it. They get it. You talk, You talk, Zach
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: from Timonium, Maryland. Is that how you say it? Hoppy
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: Tom twenty thirteen. Grab Maybe this wasn't Neil's fault, miskick,
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: bad interception, et cetera. When we were in the game,
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: but you had You've had six years. Whenever big moments come,
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: we shrink. If a CEO of a company reported losses
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: year over year for six years, they'd be fired. I
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: know players have to execute, but at some point after
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: six you might be the problem. Love the show. This
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: team won't give up. We deserve better Texter. This cannot
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: be excused as we played a better team. There's no
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: way on earth you three can vindicate Neil or Jordan
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: being embarrassed. Every single game of meaning is all coaching.
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: Just be honest and say Neil has to go.
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: I think I spoke to that.
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: I mean Oklahoma State on the road was a game
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: of meaning until it wasn't. We do We are very
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: subjective with games and meaning. Again, knowing that was a
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: disappointment last night, huge disappointment.
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: How many more times can we be embarrassed on national
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: TV and not admit something's wrong? Please put us out
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: of our misery, make a change. I love to show
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: A battered fan in Morgantown, Mike and Orlando writes at
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: some point you have to seize these opportunities. There have
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: been numerous opportunities. The result continues to be the same.
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: I am numb. Texter Tony usked West Virginia fans. We're
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: expecting to beat both Iowa State and Kansas State, and
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: we're hoping for just a split. Well, it's quite simple, Yes,
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: I guess he said, meant why West Virginia fans were asking, Well,
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: the rosters are arguably equal. We face distinct coaching disadvantages
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: in each game. Thanks for having us PS. A final reminder,
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: Neil told Roco that he wasn't good enough to play here.
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: Grant from Parkersburg, I'd never heard that. Have you ever
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: heard that? No, that's not how I've heard that. You've
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: talked to Anthony. That's not how I've heard that. Oh well,
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: we've should have seen it coming. Team never shows up
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: when it matters on the next year. I just don't
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: understand why you three won't admit it changes needed. It's
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: okay to say it out loud because we know what
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: you're thinking. Actually you don't. I'll go ahead and tell
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: you what I ben.
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: Thanks for telling me what I think, But I'll go
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: ahead and handle that with an open mic here on
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: shows twice a week and every night, I'll tell you
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: what I think, But thank you, Ben.
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: Very disappointing game. The defense gave us a chance and
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: the second half bad snaps occurred all through our timing
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: off took us out of rhythm to interceptions, Daggers. You
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: just can't have those mistakes from fifty year seniors expect
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: to be to solid team. I love Garrett, but if
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: he starts shaking next week, the entire stadium will be
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: begging for Nico. I hope he can write the ship.
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: Garrett struggling and I don't know. I don't know, Brad.
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: You look at the analytics, I don't know why. I
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: don't know what's going on there. But last year, as
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: we said many many times, that he was elite. He
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: was elite on multiple levels. And this year the expectation
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: through the roof and you just keep waiting for him
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: to have and he has had. He has had some
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: good performances, but it hasn't been elite like it was
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: last year. And because he was elite last year, when
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: he struggles, it stands out, it stands out dramatically.
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's it He was so dynamic last
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: year and has such a great skill set, and it's
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: just the production hasn't been there. Guys, I'll give you
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: I'll just give you one number, and it's I think
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: this is the crux of what slows down the offense
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: at times, and it's it's the turnovers. And just on
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: the interception side, guys, how many times did we talk
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: last year about just the lack of interceptions. There were
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: four of them on the air for Garrett and two
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: of them bounced off hands of receivers. He was just
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: an elite passing year for Garrett in terms of that.
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: He had a four to one touchdown to interception ratio
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: last year, four to one so far this season. Seven
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: touchdown passes, six interceptions. So at some point he's going
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: to break out here and get it going. But so
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: far it's been struggling. And some of that, guys, is
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: defenses taking things away. Now right, they've adjusted to West
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: Virginia has to adjust back to them.
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: Texter, Honestly, the climb has been much too arduous. I
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: firmly believe West Virginia had more talent out there than
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: the Cyclones. I give them their flowers, but how many
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: third downs. Can one team get beat and get beat
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: by the most vanilla stuff because West Virginia loves to
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: sit in soft zone. I was a patient as a
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: fan with hugs. I'm trying with Neil, let's pump the
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: brakes from now on when hyping up West Virginia after
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: we've beaten a bad Kansas and Oaks state team. As
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: the kool aid we all drink was left without sugar,
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: signed by a fan from Syracuse.
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: That Iowa state team Tony and again I listened to
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: Steve Dunlay, former West Foot longtime assistant coach. That's a
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: well coached team and they do different things. They do
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: a lot of different things. They keep you, they keep
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: you just off off base, I mean defense, don't lap
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: point out a number of times. They will bring only
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: four guys on pressure, but you don't know where the
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: fourth guy's coming from. So it's a pretty good team.
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure if they're the seventh best team in
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: the country. New ranking is out today, but they're pretty good.
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: Chris from Houston formerly Putnam County, and I do own
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: land in Greenbrier County. Landowners have been a little bit
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: quiet of late. Yeah, right, I never thought we were
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: winning any championship, But after our second drive, I said
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: we'd lose by ten or seventeen because Neil will freak
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: out over adjust and Garrett Green will try to win
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: the game on every play. We go away from the
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: run which worked the first drive, and is what at
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: all the underlying stats coming in say to do We
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: continue to pretend Jordan Leslie has a clue what he's
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: doing coaching defense. Neil's a good man running the program
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: is one, but he should but just can't win a
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: big game. It's time to move on, as this was
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: supposed to be our one in every four years.
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: I mean, they did make adjustments to the run. After
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: you ran it eleven times down their throat, they made
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: some adjustments. So you went to the pass, which, again
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: having effect, was working. You were getting pass blocking that
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: you talk about pressure up. They had two quarterback hurries
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: and no sacks that they did not get home on you.
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: You had plenty of protection. And again the bad snaps
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: and the two turnovers ballgame right there. It throws off
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: your whole ability to run offense when you have those
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: things going.
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: I just find it so interesting that, and I've said
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: this before then in football, I don't know if it's
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: just here or I guess it's everywhere if you go
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: look at this thing, but like immediately everything points to
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: the coach. Everything is on the coach, And to be
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: quite honest with you, I just don't understand it. I mean,
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: this game is clearly easy to define. You missed a
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: field goal, you had a blown assignment. I don't think
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: they coached. I don't think they coached Tyron Bradley to
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: let that receiver release, and they didn't have Jahem Joseph
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: on the opposite hashmark. That's not where they told him
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: to stay. But mistakes happened, and then you throw the
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: two interceptions, Like it's like, how is that? Now? I
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: understand the totality of it is this this program has
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: had higher levels of success. I get that part of it,
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: but I think it's so incorrect to just, all of
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: a sudden, you just focus on the coach, like, make
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: a f and play and win the game. It's there
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: for you. Do that. Make the field goal go up
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: ten to nothing, hold the ball and run with it
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: and get a first down. Make the things like that's
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: not the coach. Now. Again, the big picture stuff is
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: you have to win at a higher level that you're
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: accustomed to win. So I get that part of it,
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: but like just to like immediately say well that's no,
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: it's not no, it's not make the play. That's my
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: takeaway of it.
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: It's interesting you brought up that play because Dunlap talked
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: about that too. That on that long touchdown pass where
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: the linebacker is supposed to chuck that receiver and push
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: him out of his route. Right, that's what you're talking about, right, correct,
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: And that didn't happen.
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: Correct. So because of that, so he gets a free release,
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: he's in the safety within the safe, he's in the
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: run around the other hash mark. He's got to go
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: all the way across the field instead of being where
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: he's supposed to be. That's not how they coach it.
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: So kind of like the transitive property right, fake wis
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: be and BQ will see then eight will see. No,
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: it really isn't. It's not how we coached it to
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: do that. But that's what that's the world you're living in, right,
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: That's what this is based upon. I just think, well,
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: this is I I agree with you.
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: I agree with you. However, the CEO is going to
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: be held to account.
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: I get that part of it. But if you want
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: to be like, if you want to talk about last
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: night's game, say this, this is why this did not
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: happen for it. That's all I'm saying. Do do do
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: do do do do postgame text Probably unlike your others. Typically,
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: I watched the games from home, but I didn't want
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: to miss this inaugural rush. I got tickets for my
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: family right near the end zone second row. However, the
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: very tall drunk folks in Row one chose to stand
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: most of the game, blocking our view, and as the
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: game war on, several of them decided to stay standing
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: with their backs to the field, not even watching, blocked
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: everyone's view. At least they did not drunkenly fall into
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: our laps. Oh wait, they did that too. Good times.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: The drone show was need high enough to see over
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: the tall drunk madness and rant tough week. Let's go
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: Eric Morgantown. David Kaiser writes a thing where every time
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: Kaiser loses in high school football, West Virginia does the same,
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: and then when Kaiser wins, West Virginia wins.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: Got to causation, Probably correlation, not causation. Okay, or random
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: acts in the universe.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: Relatively new new listener checks in first time Texter. Three
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: hour drive home after a gut wrenching loss allowed me
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: plenty of time to think my first memories of attending
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: West Virginia Games twenty oh three against Virginia Tech. I
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: was eleven, teenage early to adult years, I became accustomed
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: to success. Since twenty twelve, I have taken each loss
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: as a punch to the gut, longing for the teams
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: I grew to love. I started attending games with my
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: now father in law on twenty sixteen. I noticed the
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: he handled losses differently than I did, and it wasn't
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: until tonight, as we exited the stadium that I truly
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: understood why he's calloused and maybe now I am too.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: Coach Brown is who he is, and we are who
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: we are. The attached picture of some three am number
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: crunching really puts this into perspective. Seven win seasons with
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: the hope to have a special one once in a
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: while is really what we can ask for, and realistically
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: ask for another big opportunity next week. But for now,
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: I'll get some sleep, sleep and maybe a tutor's biscuit
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: in them. Signed by Harry in Harrisville Graphic. They're of
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: the winning percentages Texter. Good morning, three guys. Another hyped
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: up game, another disappointing loss. I heard the announcers on
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: Fox say that Rocco wanted to badly play for West Virginia,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: but they snubbed him. Can anyone tell me if it's true? Anyway,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: I'll be rooting for Iowa State to run the table
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: and represent the Big twelve in the playoffs. Signed hot
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: Rod in Woodbridge, Virginia. Again, I don't know Brandon from Herndon, Virginia.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: As we get further along the season of Big Candy,
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: my daughter was allowed to check out a Halloween themed
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: book from the library. She chose a book about the Mothman.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: As she and my wife read the book, she asked,
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: my wife, is the Mothman for real? My wife's responded
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: absolutely not. I interjected and said, I'm afraid you're a mistaken.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: There's a man named Scopes that came out of the
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: talking box Alexa in the corner that knows him. My
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: daughter's eyes lit up with fear and excitement. My wife's
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: eyes just rolled. Yeah, Brandon, and see what you're doing.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: You're affecting young children, Tony with histories, damaging these young minds.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh, Vinny from the Valley, I know last night's
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: game was hard to swallow. Might influence my opinions, but
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: I'd like to weigh in on the halftime show. One
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: of the things my kids and I like to see
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: is the Pride of West Virginia, one of the best
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: bands in the world. He said, country. We look forward
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: to all the great formations marching around the field. The
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: new addition of the led light's really cool and it
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: leads to a really good team entrance and game experience.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: But as for the halftime drone show, oh what an
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: overhyped underperformance. Really, With all due respect, I'm sure the
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: technology was really cool. What I witnessed was a bad
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: light bright show performed over one end of the stadium
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: that half the fans couldn't see, while the amazing Pride
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: of West Virginia stood still in the middle and played
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: background music For me. It goes to show that change
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: is inevitable, but not all changes. Good Vinni from the Valley,
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: You saw it right, I mean, I thought it was
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: absolutely fantastic. I thought it was mesmerized. Really, and it
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: just goes me to show you, Vinny that it doesn't matter.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: It's just like everyone's everyone's gonna have. You can't. You
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: can't please every rick right, right, Ricky Nelson. You can't
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: please everyone, so you got to please yourself.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: You got guys off and asked me why I left
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: athletics and I came over here.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: Well, I thought the thing was unbelievable.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 3: I had multiple close friends, family members there says unbelievable thing.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: They say, I've never seen one of them. What is
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: what is w V?
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: I mean Vinnie's and titles, Ben and whatever. Man, what's
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: WVU doing?
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: Brad?
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: You're in this value? That's that's your background WVU with
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: the uniforms. It wasn't a call in the night game
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: with the show at half time. They're trying to make
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: it what an event, right, a memorable event surrounding the game.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: Correct, and they're succeeding. It's cool, It was cool. Well,
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what what. We're eighteen days away as
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: we record from Halloween. It's time to get yourself, So
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: go mart Candy. Big Candy's taken over. Big Candy's taken over.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: You'll go ahead, No, No, I just I had a
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: piece of candy Friday from you.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: Oh I didn't send that picture to from I had
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: that what you're talking about there recy peanut butter cups.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: You're talking can go get him at gomart on set right.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: Duke at the wine bar, at our food court. Oh,
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: fried those up, fried up little mini pumpkin recy peanut
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: butter cup shapes.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: That picture somewhere.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: I was there fright, didn't it was good, it was
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: busy talking, didn't didn't eat anything. Well, you know, a
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: couple of little things. And just as I was lee
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: Duka hit me up with that, and I thought, man,
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: can I have it like a deep fried Reese Cove
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: on an empty stomach? I did?
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: You don't want to ask me how many I had? Then?
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: How many is you have?
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: I'm not answering. No, how many do you have? Not answer?
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: Go ahead next time? More than two?
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: I had one? It was delicious.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: I hold in my hand the Tutor's Biscuit World stainless
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: steel Camo mug.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: I got one too.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: This bad boy is unbelievable. It's almost like a It's magic.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: It can keep hot things hot and cold things cold.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: But how do it know how do it? No? Well,
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: right now you can buy one of these and forever
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: for the rest of your life, get a twenty four
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: ounce refill for the price of a small coffee or
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: an iced TEA good deal. Now you get twenty four ounces,
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: but you only pay for a small, so you just
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: buy it once. Hoppy's got one over there, he's got blue.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: I've got one over here that's red. And as you
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: all know, as an avid successful hunter that I am,
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: when I'm out there on the tree stand, do you
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: have one? I got one of these tutors Biscuit World up,
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  Speaker 1: so get there.
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  Speaker 2: I filled mine up with coffee prior to this show,
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  Speaker 2: which means we need to move this show along. H
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  Speaker 2: Sweet Mercy, don't eat any more of the fire the
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  Speaker 2: coach things. Can we just move on to other things?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you get the theme. I just wanted to
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  Speaker 1: be fair. Uh.
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  Speaker 2: Pup up up up up up up up.
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  Speaker 1: Uh. People want to know where our over unders are
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  Speaker 1: at the start of the season. We'll do that. We'll
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  Speaker 1: do that a little bit later on. Maybe we'll do
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  Speaker 1: that during the We'll do that during the off week.
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  Speaker 1: Had an unbelievable time at the food court by the bye.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I had an unbelievable time, and I show
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  Speaker 1: some of those pictures. Tector comes in efforting on a
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  Speaker 1: Saturday morning brisket on a biscuit and some bowls from
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  Speaker 1: Revkev with a little three oh four washed down. Where
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  Speaker 1: is Hoppy, Mike? Not in Myrtle Beach reports? I thought
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  Speaker 1: your attendance at the food court. There's those guys, Mike,
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  Speaker 1: not Myrtle. From Myrtle. Okay, they're decked out and they're black.
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  Speaker 1: They got there early, looked like they were having a biscuit.
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  Speaker 1: They had a little Revkev box. It's cool, Texter, not
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  Speaker 1: the food court, but a little three oh four with
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  Speaker 1: a boil will do a one Adam in Summersville, right,
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  Speaker 1: So he had a boil, he had a crab or
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  Speaker 1: a seafood boil going on there, and they had the
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  Speaker 1: connection three oh four beers. Well done, Texter says, barbecue
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  Speaker 1: sold out. I had to fall back to the Golden arches.
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  Speaker 1: So this guy did Revkev eventually sell out? I mean, right,
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  Speaker 1: the sign of a great barbecue is when they run out.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah it is.
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  Speaker 3: The brisket went fast, but I was still there at
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  Speaker 3: two thirty is two fifteen yesterday and they were still serving,
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  Speaker 3: so thought thing went a little deeper than that.
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  Speaker 1: Texter guys. My wife and I made our first trip
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  Speaker 1: to the food court. Revkev Barbecue was d licious. Connection
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  Speaker 1: three oh four was smooth, Mimosa's tasty, Daniels had the
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  Speaker 1: best swag I'd ever seen, and Dave and Brad were
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  Speaker 1: incredibly nice to spend some time chatting with us. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: and Dave's dog, Sage is a sweetheart. The ideal pre
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  Speaker 1: tailgate spot. On a side note, we had both of
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  Speaker 1: my siblings and their spouses at the game together for
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  Speaker 1: the first time since my thirtieth birthday back in twenty
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  Speaker 1: out to eleven. All in all, it's perfect day until
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  Speaker 1: a lamentable second half of football. We all those pictures
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  Speaker 1: Matt and Tulsa. We often talk about Matt and Tulsa.
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  Speaker 1: Here's the four pick. There's homeless Dave with Matt and Tulser,
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  Speaker 1: and then I go ahead and rotate those through Ethan.
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  Speaker 1: There's the Senator.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, Matt and from Tulsa and his brother.
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  Speaker 1: Which two of those guys work out? And next picture,
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  Speaker 1: the next picture flease, Oh, there's the girls and the
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  Speaker 1: guys had a big time. And here's our first ever
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  Speaker 1: composed picture. Look at this. They dated it for us.
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  Speaker 1: Next one, the October one. Come on, Ethan says October
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty four on the picture. Apparently not okay, fine,
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  Speaker 1: you know what, that's fine. Did you sent some pictures
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  Speaker 1: in Danian?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you want to see mine. Yeah, it's just from Friday.
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  Speaker 2: Had a great time Friday.
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  Speaker 1: Run the hoppy pictures, Ethan. Well, look at that. Oh
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  Speaker 1: that's Claire, mister Joe reality. Look at Hoppy all happy,
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  Speaker 1: happy baby Claire three months old. Cute, Yeah, she's she
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  Speaker 1: was adorable.
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  Speaker 2: Good baby. Had a good time with those folks.
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  Speaker 1: What do we have here?
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  Speaker 2: Just boys, just guys, just guys hanging out. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: all right, people guys. One of them was from the
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: fact all these guys were worked in the petroleum industry
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: and they had been all over the world, I mean
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  Speaker 2: everywhere everywhere.
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  Speaker 1: Did they like the beer? Oh, everybody likes the beer.
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  Speaker 1: Here's how for all the crap we gave him about
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: being anti social a couple of years ago, this guy,
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  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, he's has really helped his social life.
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  Speaker 1: He's done.
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  Speaker 3: He's done a nice job. He enjoys hanging out at
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  Speaker 3: the food to Yah, who do we have here?
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  Speaker 2: Just just a couple of guys at the food court.
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  Speaker 2: The guy on my right is it is a heart doctor.
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  Speaker 2: Excuse me, heart doctor. Had him check me. I said,
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  Speaker 2: I know, you get this all the time. I had
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  Speaker 2: him check me for a fib while I was there,
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  Speaker 2: and he said, at that moment, Oh, there's one.
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  Speaker 1: There's Jennings without his beard. Look there, we got a
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  Speaker 1: big family shot there. Just all kinds of people there. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: just that I mean so Also shout out to the
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  Speaker 1: Iowa State fans. They showed up. Good for them. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they know about it. I don't know how they knew,
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  Speaker 1: but they found it and they said, like, this is
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  Speaker 1: the greatest in the world. Why don't more schools do
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: this because we're not a school. Yeah, just a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of dumb And there is oh, Mike Clement, that's Hudson's dad,
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  Speaker 1: and Murphy's dead and Murphy's deck keeps saying that the Clement,
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  Speaker 1: the Clement kids's dad. He was outstanding. Oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: good he booked again. He's doing it again. Next Friday
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  Speaker 1: he played re signed him.
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  Speaker 3: It was about nine to thirty Friday, before he wrapped
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  Speaker 3: up his set. He kept he kept going. His wife
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  Speaker 3: Tracy was there. They had a great fun group from Martin's.
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  Speaker 1: Guess that was there. They were hanging out. That was awesome.
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  Speaker 2: You know what, And you know what he did. He
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  Speaker 2: sat down, got his guitar out. He played about two
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  Speaker 2: hours before taking a break. He just he just kept rolling.
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  Speaker 2: And I mean his his playlist is varied. When I
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  Speaker 2: took that picture there he was playing his version of
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: Sympathy for the Devil by the Rolling Stones, no kidding.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and he was really good.
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  Speaker 2: He's been playing since he's was seventeen. We had a
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  Speaker 2: chat afterward.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah that was great. Yeah, three guys before the games
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  Speaker 3: Also got that deal on pumpkins and the Snickers pumpkins.
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  Speaker 1: Had to go get one of those. I was there
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  Speaker 1: for gas yesterday. Had did you get one? Well?
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  Speaker 3: I had to give the food court. I didn't have
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  Speaker 3: time to run in talk to my guys over there,
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  Speaker 3: and so find out where the pumpkins were Nickers pumpkin
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  Speaker 3: get out here. Speaking of the food court, was delivered
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  Speaker 3: a gift nice MJ and Savannah for an MG. I've
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  Speaker 3: not looked at this. I've not looked at this, she said. Oh,
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  Speaker 3: they were individually packaged, so I was supposed to deliver
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  Speaker 3: to all three. Hoppy, I pointed out, every time Tony's
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  Speaker 3: but that I would thank you.
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  Speaker 1: What you got to do?
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  Speaker 3: Know? Got oh some kind of a claw milk chocolate
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  Speaker 3: bear cloths.
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  Speaker 2: Oh nice, thank you, he's look good.
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  Speaker 3: Couple, Thanks Thanks MJ. It was great to see him.
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  Speaker 2: Hey.
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  Speaker 1: Rev keV.
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  Speaker 2: You you might not have had any of this because
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: it was Friday. Revkev was floating out something new. Did
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  Speaker 2: you hear about that?
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  Speaker 1: The turkey?
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  Speaker 2: The turkey you knew about that?
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  Speaker 1: Got a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: It is really really good.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: I bought a beef rib from them. Did you brought
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  Speaker 1: it to the house? Eight on that thing? Three times?
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  Speaker 1: The turkeys.
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  Speaker 2: This was like a what do you call it, a
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  Speaker 2: like a beta, a test runner at test run. And
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  Speaker 2: they were just taking it around and it was so moist.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: You know how the white meat turkey is dry.
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  Speaker 1: It was so moist.
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  Speaker 2: And he says, they take the turkey and they soak
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: it in brine for two days and they're gonna roll
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  Speaker 2: it out Thanksgiving. I ordered one really for Thanksgiving. For Thanksgiving,
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  Speaker 2: including the kids lunchbox programs here in the elementary schools
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  Speaker 1: This this three guys tailgates. It's it's become a thing.
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  Speaker 1: Mm hmm. It has its Yeah, it's gonna probably take
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  Speaker 2: Dave I was talking to him and you know his daughter,
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  Speaker 2: Emma was their brand Terrific previous week. Terrific did a
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  Speaker 2: great job. And Emma doesn't understand any of this, like
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: what's going on?
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  Speaker 1: Why are all these people here? And Dan struggles with it.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: Why does everybody want your picture made? Because now it's
• 1:16:39
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  Speaker 1: They were good. Do you have me yet?
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  Speaker 2: They had one of them? The chocolate though, like they
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  Speaker 1: All right, Thursday, we're back with preview the Mountaineers and
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  Speaker 1: Mountaineers Friday season basketball game week, Tony, this is game week. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it is game week for the Mountaineers.
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  Speaker 2: It probably means so are we doing Friday night for
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  Speaker 2: three guys?
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  Speaker 1: Tailgate? Yeah, tailgates from four to nine on Friday and
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  Speaker 1: then Saturday probably eight. Again.
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  Speaker 3: Times a game might not start as early on nine
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 3: or ten or something. It might back that up a
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  Speaker 3: little bit.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, we're out. Ethan our producer, he's terrific.
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  Speaker 3: Rif tremendous. He just you han't a quick turnaround hit too.
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  Speaker 1: He was. He's got great there late last night, boom
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