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Normally Podcast: Is It Too Little, Too Late for Kamala Harris? · Normally

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Speaker 1: Hey guys.
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Speaker 2: Here we are on normal the show with normalish takes
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Speaker 2: for when the news gets weird. I am Mary Catherine
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Speaker 2: Ham and I'm Carol Markolitz.
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Speaker 3: Today we're going to get into a continuation of what
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Speaker 3: we talked about a little last time, which is Kamala
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Speaker 3: Harris is struggling with male voters, and she particularly has
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Speaker 3: decided that black men are where she will focus a
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Speaker 3: little bit. I think Tim Wallas is maybe trying to
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Speaker 3: get the hunter demographic going with his amazing hunting skills
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Speaker 3: last weekend, but Kamala Harris put out a tweet where
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Speaker 3: she proposed some ideas for black men, and so here's
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Speaker 3: what it says. Kamala Harris will create an opportunity agenda
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Speaker 3: for black men. She'll provide one million loans that are
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Speaker 3: fully forgivable to twenty thousand dollars for black entrepreneurs and
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Speaker 3: others to start a business. She'll support education, training, and
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Speaker 3: mentorship programs that leads to good paying jobs for black men,
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Speaker 3: including pathways to become teachers. She'll protect cryptocurrency investments so
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Speaker 3: black men who make them know their money safe. She'll
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Speaker 3: launch a national health initiative focused on the illnesses disproportionately
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Speaker 3: impact black men. My personal favorite, she'll legalize recreational marijuana
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Speaker 3: and create opportunities for Black Americans to succeed in this
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Speaker 3: new industry. That is a hodgepodge of ideas.
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Speaker 1: It really is. The crypto one is odd.
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Speaker 2: Is there really a high proportion of black men who
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Speaker 2: are invested in crypto that this is reaching?
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Speaker 1: I don't know, right.
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Speaker 2: I like that one of her other campaign graphics for
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Speaker 2: the marijuana promise is green in the background, just to
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Speaker 2: really drive over the head the point home. This all
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Speaker 2: feels a little too little, too late for me.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not sure, because I think I will give
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Speaker 3: you twenty thousand dollars is actually a very very very
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Speaker 3: strong campaign message. And whether or not she could actually
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Speaker 3: do that is another story, but it's a fair point. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I do think the Constitution might have some issues with
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Speaker 2: giving money only by race.
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Speaker 1: Come on, Mary Kada, it's very old fashioned.
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Speaker 3: The Supreme Court told the Biden administration that they could
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Speaker 3: not pay off student loans, and then the Biden administration
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Speaker 3: went around the Supreme Court and did it anyway. Barely
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Speaker 3: any media coverage of this. No problem. They found some
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Speaker 3: other way to do it. If they want to give
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Speaker 3: out twenty thousand dollars to their voters, which is basically
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Speaker 3: what they did with the student loans. They're going to
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Speaker 3: find a way.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I love the part where democratic administrations announced that they
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Speaker 2: know they can't do stuff like this. It was Daco
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Speaker 2: with Obama who was the loans Pelosius specifically, it was like, now,
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Speaker 2: we can't do this, definitely not within our power. Right, Okay,
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Speaker 2: let's do it.
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Speaker 3: Let's do it anyway.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and maybe a couple of years from now the
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Speaker 2: courts will tell us that we did the wrong thing,
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Speaker 2: but by then it's already done.
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Speaker 1: So you're probably right.
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Speaker 2: But a Democratic campaig and having to cobble together promises
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Speaker 2: to a key constituency like this on October fifteenth or so, Yeah,
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Speaker 2: is not the sign I think of a healthy operation,
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Speaker 2: even if it might work.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. I think it's a hail Mary. And
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Speaker 3: for Tim Wall's fans out there, that's a football reference.
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Speaker 3: So I don't know. I'm not sure that this is
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Speaker 3: portraying strength. But again, I handing out cash to voters
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Speaker 3: is a very popular policy, and I don't know that
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Speaker 3: necessarily the it'll backfire. I would like you to imagine
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Speaker 3: for a second if it was Donald Trump's campaign that
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Speaker 3: was like, hey, black men, we will legalize recreational marijuana
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Speaker 3: because we know you love the weed and so you know,
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Speaker 3: we're going to make sure to make it easier for
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Speaker 3: you to smoke it. Jobs, Yeah, black jobs became the
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Speaker 3: ray most racist thing in the world, even though obviously
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Speaker 3: we know what black jobs are, jobs that black people do,
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Speaker 3: so it's crazy obviously this double standard, but here we are, so.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, black jobs, by the way, is the binders full
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Speaker 2: of women of this election where it's just this nonsensical
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Speaker 2: thing where maybe one word is left out of a
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Speaker 2: phrase and it's clearly not intended to be offensive. In fact,
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Speaker 2: it's part of talking about policies that would benefit the
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Speaker 2: demographic you're talking about, but the media decides that it's
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Speaker 2: just like the most heinous thing that's ever been said.
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Speaker 2: Romney was accused of great sexism and misogyny by noting
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Speaker 2: that his administration had binders full of women, and what
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Speaker 2: he meant to say was women's resumes, which was quite clear,
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Speaker 2: so that he could hire a bunch of women into
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Speaker 2: his administration. And yet to this day, if you ask
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Speaker 2: a liberal friend to tell you why this is offensive.
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Speaker 1: They'll have some trouble coming up with what right, Because
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Speaker 1: I could have.
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Speaker 3: Wanted to stuff women into binders. He just literally wanted to.
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Speaker 1: Keep them there. Obvious.
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Speaker 5: Oh.
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Speaker 1: I guess we will see where this leads.
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Speaker 2: Again, A key demographic that you should have been in
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Speaker 2: touch with throughout the process now being addressed on October
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Speaker 2: fifteenth is not a great sign. I also saw a
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Speaker 2: story today about the left and Democratic operatives being concerned
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Speaker 2: about the ground game in Pennsylvania for Kamala Harris, which
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Speaker 2: doesn't sound great, especially in Philadelphia where you've got working
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Speaker 2: class voters moving away from the Democratic Party right. So
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Speaker 2: that is perhaps one of many excuses that are sort
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Speaker 2: of being pre built into the election.
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Speaker 1: Excuses.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. The other one, Carol, that you noticed is that
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Speaker 2: a lot of people are starting some arguments about how
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Speaker 2: maybe if Kamala Harris is not doing well, it's the
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Speaker 2: media's fault.
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Speaker 1: I love that.
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Speaker 2: Let's hear Sunny Hustin of the View explain why this
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Speaker 2: might be the case.
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Speaker 5: I think that Kamala Harris has been running a flawless
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Speaker 5: campaign and that's why she raised billions of dollars. A
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Speaker 5: billion dollar I think it's because of the momentum that
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Speaker 5: she has. I think it's because people believe in her,
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Speaker 5: and I think people are showing that by the amount
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Speaker 5: of money that they're willing to give to the campaign.
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Speaker 1: I think we have the press to blame.
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Speaker 5: For a lot of this about you know what, but
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Speaker 5: you always say you don't believe in polls. I'm with
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Speaker 5: you now because I'm reading the press. First it was
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Speaker 5: Kamala is not doing enough press. Now she goes on
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Speaker 5: this huge press tour. She was here with us. I
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Speaker 5: thought she was fantastic, she was energetic, the crowd went wild.
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Speaker 1: It was electric.
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Speaker 5: CNN, Democrats grow anxious, Axios, Blue Wall, Blues, Fox, Dems
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Speaker 5: are scared to death.
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Speaker 1: No, Dems are not scared to death. Then Dems are pumped.
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Speaker 1: What I would like.
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Speaker 5: The press to talk a little bit more about is
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Speaker 5: Trump isn't hiding. He didn't do the sixteen minutes interview.
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Speaker 5: He does not want to do another debate. He's in
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Speaker 5: mental decline. Obama's speech was captivating in Pittsburgh, Yet instead
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Speaker 5: of talking about that, we're talking about what he said
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Speaker 5: before the speech to black men. I think that the
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Speaker 5: media has to do a much better job than what
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Speaker 5: they're doing.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, media has to do a better job at what
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Speaker 3: they're doing, which should be shoring up the Kamala Harris candidacy.
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Speaker 3: Now we're recording this on Wednesday for Thursday's release. Tonight,
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Speaker 3: Kamala Harris is going on Fox News again, not the
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Speaker 3: sign of a campaign that is super comfortable, But with
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Speaker 3: Sonny Hoysten's comments that she already has done a huge
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Speaker 3: press tour, she included the view Mary Catherine, I mean,
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Speaker 3: what else is there? So you know, I think that
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Speaker 3: it would have actually been a stronger argument post Fox
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Speaker 3: debate for her.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, a pox interview, interview. There's a couple things going
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Speaker 2: on here that I find amazing. A flawless campaign. Does
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Speaker 2: she really believe that? Number one? Number two, the idea
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Speaker 2: that the press is not sufficiently soft on Kamala Harris,
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Speaker 2: I think is delusional, just totally delusional. And then there's
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Speaker 2: the idea that if you just hit the bare minimum,
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Speaker 2: which is to make yourself accessible for a job interview,
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Speaker 2: for the most important job on earth, that you have
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Speaker 2: really hit the mark. No, she actually has to do
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Speaker 2: the interviews. Well, I think Houstin here is probably trying
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Speaker 2: to claw back a little of the damage that Kamala
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Speaker 2: Harris did to herself on the View in response to
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Speaker 2: Sonny Huston's question, which is now an ad by the way,
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Speaker 2: when she said she couldn't think of anything that she
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Speaker 2: would differentiate or she would do differently during the last
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Speaker 2: four years. She's doing it to herself, right, And it
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Speaker 2: remains to be seen what happens on Fox with Brett Baer.
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Speaker 2: These things are challenging, and they're challenging for a reason
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Speaker 2: because the job is challenging, and.
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Speaker 1: All of us aren't challenging.
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Speaker 2: By the way, that's one of the first challenging ones.
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Speaker 2: But you're supposed to do this. This is the bare minimum,
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Speaker 2: and then you should do it well.
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Speaker 3: And it's a lay up question. What will you do
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Speaker 3: differently than the president who's in there now? Whose vice
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Speaker 3: president you are? She's not ready to answer that. What
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Speaker 3: is she ready to answer? We'll be right back on normally.
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Speaker 2: Can I note that Donald Trump isn't really in hiding.
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Speaker 2: I watched the Chicago Economic Club interview he did with
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Speaker 2: a Bloomberg reporter and it was an hour and five
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Speaker 2: minutes long, and at the top of that interview, the
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Speaker 2: interview at thinkst migkel Swaite said that he had invited
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Speaker 2: Kamala Harris, that the organization had invited Kamala Harris and
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Speaker 2: she had turned down this hour long explication of economic issues. Now,
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Speaker 2: you can disagree with many of the points he made
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Speaker 2: during this hour and five minutes, but he did the thing.
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Speaker 2: And he's done several appearances, one of which I would
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Speaker 2: like to draw attention to called Bustin with the Boys.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so this is.
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Speaker 2: A podcast, one of the many male demographic podcasts that
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Speaker 2: he has appeared on.
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Speaker 1: THEO Vaughn.
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Speaker 2: This is a barstool podcast with two NFL players, and
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Speaker 2: it's like bro versus Bratt, right, So these are the bros.
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Speaker 2: Donald Trump goes on Busting with the Boys, this barstool podcast.
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Speaker 2: And apparently one of the questions that they asked or
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Speaker 2: the stories they were telling that the hosts laughed at
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Speaker 2: Trump's answer. The Washington Post was interested in that. So
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Speaker 2: let's hear what the Washington Post had to ask the
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Speaker 2: Busting with the Boys guys. Here is Will Compton, who
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Speaker 2: is one of the hosts of this show, explaining the
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Speaker 2: email they got was a.
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Speaker 4: Part of the episode where we're talking ball and how
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Speaker 4: Trump used to play tight end would have locked him up,
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Speaker 4: and he essentially makes the comment, I don't I wouldn't
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Speaker 4: want to get hit, or I didn't want to get
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Speaker 4: hit by somebody who's been lifting weights all day long
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Speaker 4: and came from a bad neighborhood. Taylor and I laughed.
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Speaker 4: They want to they want our comment. Their question is
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Speaker 4: why did we find that amusing? You already know what
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Speaker 4: they want to do with this thing. You want to
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Speaker 4: know what kind of picture they want to paint. You
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Speaker 4: want to know what kind of box they want us
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Speaker 4: to put it. You want to know you know their
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Speaker 4: vision for this entire question. On asking that number one,
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Speaker 4: I thought it was funny because Trump is sitting there
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Speaker 4: admitting that he is not built for the A gap,
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Speaker 4: nor is he a tight end that was built for
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Speaker 4: catching his slant over the middle, only to get his
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Speaker 4: vertebrae is L four and L five compressed by a
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Speaker 4: middle linebacker that probably goes on to play in Nebraska
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Speaker 4: and arguably ten years in the NFL. But just knowing that,
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Speaker 4: you know the direction they want to go with this
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Speaker 4: thing as they write whatever article that they're trying to write.
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Speaker 4: And they asked if Willer Taylor would provide a comment
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Speaker 4: on why we found that amusing. So I'm thinking to myself, well,
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Speaker 4: I will just I'll publicly tell you guys my comment.
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Speaker 4: So Washington Post, here's my comment about why I thought
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Speaker 4: it was amusing.
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Speaker 2: I set this clip to so many people and I
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Speaker 2: was like, very seriously, watch till the end.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, take tips on these guys on PR response. I
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Speaker 3: like that.
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Speaker 2: I call it made up crisis calms, because the crisis
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Speaker 2: isn't real, so you shouldn't treat it seriously.
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Speaker 3: Imagine why did you find this funny? Like break down
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Speaker 3: for us? Why you thought that was funny?
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Speaker 2: And also Trump is just like admitting something against interest.
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Speaker 2: He's saying, like I wasn't going to be out there
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Speaker 2: on the field looking to take hits, right, it is funny? Yeah, absolutely,
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Speaker 2: Why wouldn't that be funny? Trump is a funny guy.
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Speaker 3: Like again, I feel like there's a lot of like
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Speaker 3: you're allowed to hate Trump, go ahead and hate him,
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Speaker 3: but he's funny and that is funny.
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Speaker 2: So I think I think it is like largely his
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Speaker 2: saving grace that he is entertaining. And by the way,
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Speaker 2: this comes in a proud tradition of barstool folks destroying
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Speaker 2: the Washington when they ask them for comment on things,
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Speaker 2: because Dave Portnoy famously blew a Washington Post reporter out
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Speaker 2: of the water by taping their conversation when she had
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Speaker 2: questions about a pizza festival that Dave Portnoy had had
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Speaker 2: the temerity to host in New York City and bring
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Speaker 2: his ichy views to And they were sort of trying
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Speaker 2: to pre cancel this pizza festival, and Dave was not
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Speaker 2: having it. And I think addressing these things publicly because
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Speaker 2: he's exactly right. We know where this is going, and
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Speaker 2: this is not in good faith and you should not
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Speaker 2: address it as such.
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Speaker 1: And perhaps that's why.
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Speaker 2: By the way, Carol, I just want to note a
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Speaker 2: new Gallup poll that shows Americans trust in media at
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Speaker 2: a trend low. Thirty one percent of Americans expressed a
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Speaker 2: great deal or fair amount of confidence in the media.
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Speaker 2: That's a thirty one percent with two levels of confidence combined.
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Speaker 2: If you just take the great deal, it's much smaller
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Speaker 2: than that.
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Speaker 1: Not enough, not low enough, lowest since nineteen seventy two.
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Speaker 3: So let us read one more tweet. This is from
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Speaker 3: Will Stancil. I don't entirely know who he is, but
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Speaker 3: a lot of people really hate him on.
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Speaker 2: X left leaning punching bag is sort of the vibe
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Speaker 2: I get from the account.
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Speaker 3: So it's fun. It's fun, you know, to watch from Afar,
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Speaker 3: but he tweets. The thing is a handful of news
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Speaker 3: organizations could end Trump's campaign tomorrow if they covered his racism, conspiracism, age,
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Speaker 3: sexual assaults, and criminality the exact same way that those
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Speaker 3: same topics get covered when any other candidate does the
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Speaker 3: same or less than him. You know, I just haven't
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Speaker 3: heard enough about how Trump is racist. I feel like
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Speaker 3: if they just stamp that up a little bit twenty
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Speaker 3: four to the.
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Speaker 1: Bottom of that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is wild to me to imagine living in
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Speaker 2: the brain of Will Stancil or Sunny Hastin when they.
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Speaker 1: Look around and go, you know what, we need more bad.
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Speaker 2: News about Trump, because I believe, if I'm not mistaken,
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Speaker 2: I believe it's Media Research Center did a study pre
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Speaker 2: ABC hosted debate and found that one hundred percent of
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Speaker 2: their stories about Trump were negative from the preceding several months.
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Speaker 3: Not enough.
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Speaker 1: I don't know how you do better. I don't know
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Speaker 1: how you do better.
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Speaker 3: You know, what they're really saying is they're saying that
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Speaker 3: Fox News exists. And also Bridget Fetesi pointed out that
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Speaker 3: this election is like the podcast election. All these candidates
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Speaker 3: or you know, Trump, all these candidates Trump keeps going
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Speaker 3: on the podcast and even of course Kamala Harris had
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Speaker 3: her call her daddy. But this is the first time
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Speaker 3: that's really happening. And what these people are saying is,
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Speaker 3: I don't like that there's non leftist outlets out there,
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Speaker 3: non liberal outlets. They wanted to be only their news groups,
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Speaker 3: only the stations that they like, and so you know,
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Speaker 3: too bad, too bad, too bad that there's other outlets
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Speaker 3: out there now and you don't have them an out
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Speaker 3: on it anymore. But speaking of podcasts, there's a rumor
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Speaker 3: there's potentially a situation where Kamala Harris will be going
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Speaker 3: on the Joe Rogan Show.
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Speaker 2: So there's been some talk about this and it keeps
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Speaker 2: being buzz And again I want to caution everybody that
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Speaker 2: Beyonce was supposed to show up at the DNC, so
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Speaker 2: don't take this to the bank, okay, But they're talking
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Speaker 2: about her going on Joe Rogan and it's continued for
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Speaker 2: more than twenty four hours now, so maybe there is
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Speaker 2: a booking in the offing here of the places one
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Speaker 2: could go, this is a.
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Speaker 1: Three hour conversation.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Now, I suppose in a world where you're a candidate
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Speaker 2: for president, you just say like, I'm doing a shorter
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Speaker 2: version of that.
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Speaker 1: But I feel like you got to hit forty minutes.
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Speaker 2: If it's Joe Rogan, I mean, hey, he's not going
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Speaker 2: to do a ten minute interview with you, yusy.
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Speaker 3: I find it very hard to imagine her on it.
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Speaker 3: I kind of find it hard to imagine any presidential
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Speaker 3: candidate talking for three hours, maybe except Trump, because I
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Speaker 3: don't think he's worried about like saying the wrong thing.
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Speaker 3: He has no such concern. So other than Donald Trump,
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Speaker 3: I can't picture another candidate talking for three hours. I
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Speaker 3: don't think Kamala Harris can.
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Speaker 2: Do ninety minutes.
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Speaker 3: So and if she does, imagine if she does, you
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Speaker 3: know it's going to be wall to wall clips of
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Speaker 3: her talking herself into a circle and not being able
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Speaker 3: to get out of that. Also, there's, of course, of course,
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Speaker 3: the thing where Joe Rogan used to be the sextist, racist,
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Speaker 3: worst guy ever. Neil Young can't be on the same
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Speaker 3: platform as him, but Kamala Harris can now potentially interesting.
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Speaker 2: The moral panic over the Joe Rogan Show being on
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Speaker 2: Spotify was one of the more creepy displays that we've
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Speaker 2: had in the last four years, and that includes the
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Speaker 2: COVID creepy displays of authoritarianism. By the way, they always
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Speaker 2: call us authoritarian And I'm like, you tried to get
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Speaker 2: Joe Rogan taken off of all the platforms because you
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Speaker 2: don't you don't like that he smokes weed and talks
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Speaker 2: to people for three hours that you don't like. I mean,
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Speaker 2: this is a crazy thing. And now they're just like,
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Speaker 2: oh no, forget that. It's like install the chip, take
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Speaker 2: the chip out.
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Speaker 1: Fine again.
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Speaker 3: You know, I'm not a finance person and this is
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Speaker 3: not to be financial advice. But when Spotify stood by
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Speaker 3: Joe Rogan, we bought stock and Spotify and it has
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Speaker 3: gone way up, way, So you.
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Speaker 2: Know, very much appreciated that any any company that can be.
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Speaker 1: Brave like that.
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Speaker 2: Especially I remember that that controversy was so pitched. It
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Speaker 2: was like the only thing in media for I want
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Speaker 2: to say more than a week we talked about the
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Speaker 2: scourge that is Joe Rogan. On the on the national
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Speaker 2: body politic, and it's like, my dude is just having
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Speaker 2: a blunt and talking to people.
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Speaker 1: I don't leave Joe Rogan alone. That's our possession.
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Speaker 3: We're going to take a short break and come right
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Speaker 3: back with normally.
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Speaker 2: So shall we talk about crime for our in case
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Speaker 2: you missed it this week. We do not want you
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Speaker 2: guys to miss this important stats update.
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Speaker 3: So the FBI has revised their crime numbers. They actually
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Speaker 3: edited it and didn't tell anybody about it. We call
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Speaker 3: that a stealth edit. And crime is no longer down
19:24
Speaker 3: two point one percent. It's actually now up four point
19:29
Speaker 3: five percent, which is worse, I think.
19:33
Speaker 2: And if you'll remember, I believe it was during the
19:36
Speaker 2: summer up to a couple of weeks ago, there was
19:38
Speaker 2: a lot of crowing in the mainstream media outlets about
19:41
Speaker 2: CNN violent crime is down and the US murder rate
19:43
Speaker 2: is plunging. FBI statistics show Northern starline to cap violent
19:49
Speaker 2: crime down. New FBI stats and NBC news show US
19:53
Speaker 2: historic declines in violent crime rate.
19:55
Speaker 1: On and on and on.
19:56
Speaker 2: Violent crime dropped in twenty twenty three. Despite Trump's saying
19:59
Speaker 2: such an well, it turns out that's not true, which
20:05
Speaker 2: is what a lot of people right of center or
20:07
Speaker 2: critical thinkers were saying at the time that these stats drop.
20:11
Speaker 2: They said, well, a lot of these cities aren't reporting
20:13
Speaker 2: them in the same way that they used to, so
20:15
Speaker 2: we can't really take that to the bank. And why
20:18
Speaker 2: does it take real clear politics investigative writers to be
20:23
Speaker 2: watching the stats to see the stealth edit so that
20:26
Speaker 2: we see the four point five percent increase ye instead
20:31
Speaker 2: of the two point one decrease.
20:34
Speaker 3: You know, that's a great question. And I don't understand
20:37
Speaker 3: how the FBI doesn't release a statement about the change.
20:41
Speaker 3: They just edit it and hope for the best. And
20:44
Speaker 3: you know what's another funny thing is that when people
20:46
Speaker 3: were saying these crime stats are made up and they're not,
20:50
Speaker 3: you know, you can't apples to apples the crimes deats
20:53
Speaker 3: from a few years ago because they're not writing it
20:55
Speaker 3: the same way.
20:56
Speaker 4: That was a.
20:56
Speaker 3: Conspiracy theory and that was something that crazy Republicans would say,
21:02
Speaker 3: and you know, look at the stats, Well, look at
21:04
Speaker 3: the stats. They've been changed.
21:05
Speaker 5: Now.
21:06
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have a reliable narrator problem in this country.
21:10
Speaker 1: People don't know who to trust.
21:11
Speaker 2: And it's my full time job to watch these stories,
21:15
Speaker 2: and I feel like when something breaks, I got to
21:17
Speaker 2: do at least an hour of work to figure out
21:18
Speaker 2: who's telling me the truth, because the press generally is
21:22
Speaker 2: not interested in telling you what's actually happening, So you
21:25
Speaker 2: have to do a lot of work on the back
21:26
Speaker 2: end and try to make yourself trustworthy. Yeah, man, organizations
21:31
Speaker 2: like this are looking to burn through public trust, or
21:33
Speaker 2: at least that's the way it feels. And the same
21:36
Speaker 2: thing has happened in places where schools were closed, for instance,
21:39
Speaker 2: during COVID, is that they've changed the way that they
21:43
Speaker 2: do stats for student achievement, specifically so that you cannot
21:48
Speaker 2: compare right post pandemic with pre pandemic, because they know
21:53
Speaker 2: that the receipts will be bad for them, and so
21:57
Speaker 2: that also hurts public trust. We have to have some
22:00
Speaker 2: sort of consensus that we're dealing with stats fairly.
22:03
Speaker 3: Right, absolutely, and they've like, I mean not to get
22:06
Speaker 3: too into that, but it's obviously a topic that you
22:08
Speaker 3: and I care a lot about. But they've discouraged parents
22:12
Speaker 3: from letting their kids take state tests in the wake
22:16
Speaker 3: of the pandemic closures, and so you really don't know
22:19
Speaker 3: because they're telling parents don't have your kids take these tests.
22:23
Speaker 1: I hear from.
22:24
Speaker 3: Parents often that are told by their school administration that
22:28
Speaker 3: it's not really that important for your kids to take
22:30
Speaker 3: these tests.
22:31
Speaker 1: But back to the.
22:32
Speaker 3: Data here on the FBI and crime, I'll read what
22:36
Speaker 3: John Lott wrote for real clear investigations. He wrote, while
22:40
Speaker 3: the FBI claims that serious violent crime has fallen by
22:43
Speaker 3: five point eight percent since Biden took office, the numbers
22:47
Speaker 3: actually show that total violent crime has risen by fifty
22:52
Speaker 3: five point four percent. It's actually not a small discrepancy.
22:56
Speaker 3: That's not like, oh, two points here are two points there.
22:58
Speaker 4: No.
22:58
Speaker 3: Rapes are up by forty two two percent, robbery by
23:01
Speaker 3: sixty three percent, and aggravated assault by fifty five percent
23:05
Speaker 3: during Biden's term. This is the largest previous sorry, since
23:10
Speaker 3: this they started looking at these numbers. Largest previous increase
23:13
Speaker 3: over three years was twenty seven percent in two thousand
23:16
Speaker 3: and six. So the increase under Biden was slightly more
23:19
Speaker 3: than twice as large. It's mind boggling that this is
23:24
Speaker 3: not a wall to wall story. I mean this, It
23:27
Speaker 3: just is unacceptable that these kinds of numbers are not
23:33
Speaker 3: being clarified in our national media.
23:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, it won't surprise you that the FBI declined to
23:38
Speaker 2: comment on real clear investigations work on this, And I
23:43
Speaker 2: just think this is something people feel in their real lives, right,
23:46
Speaker 2: They feel the difference in their communities.
23:49
Speaker 1: Yes, it's not fake to them, right.
23:52
Speaker 2: And just another story that speaks to that is the
23:55
Speaker 2: Walgreens story from this week where the pharmacy is cover
23:58
Speaker 2: closing twelve hundred story over the next three years, with
24:02
Speaker 2: eight hundred more under evaluation. And some of that is
24:04
Speaker 2: because they're in places that are very prone to being
24:09
Speaker 2: robbed and they've got everything locked down. It makes the
24:13
Speaker 2: shopping experience not nice for normal people who aren't looking
24:16
Speaker 2: to rob the place. You have to have someone unlock
24:19
Speaker 2: anything that's in the store, and happening on this scale
24:23
Speaker 2: reveals something. People see this in their daily lives, and
24:27
Speaker 2: to tell them it's not real, whether you're the FBI
24:30
Speaker 2: or running for president, is not wise.
24:32
Speaker 3: Yeah. I really oppose the gaslighting of this kind of thing.
24:38
Speaker 3: When we lived in Brooklyn and we saw a crime
24:40
Speaker 3: going up, you know, we lived in a very lefty area,
24:43
Speaker 3: so all the boards were like every time you mentioned like,
24:45
Speaker 3: I feel unsafe on the subway now, So people the
24:49
Speaker 3: chorus would be like, that's racist and that's not acceptable,
24:53
Speaker 3: and you know this person should be not allowed to
24:56
Speaker 3: post here. Really, that's what would happen. So the fact
25:00
Speaker 3: that these numbers are being massaged, I think is a
25:03
Speaker 3: giant issue. I hope that the right side of the
25:06
Speaker 3: aisle stays on this and turns it into a bigger
25:09
Speaker 3: story because it deserves to be.
25:11
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a strange thing to tell your citizens that
25:13
Speaker 2: they're not allowed to want a higher quality of life.
25:16
Speaker 2: That's right, no matter what color they are or what
25:19
Speaker 2: income they are. It's actually your first job as a
25:22
Speaker 2: government to keep them safe.
25:24
Speaker 3: Right. I'd rather want to do a whole bunch of
25:26
Speaker 3: other jobs, but you do that job.
25:28
Speaker 2: Yeah, we should have them change those priorities. Maybe Elon
25:31
Speaker 2: Musk will be in charge of that.
25:32
Speaker 3: That would be good. Let's get some Elon on it.
25:35
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25:35
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