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Find Sehaj your Inner Bliss With Jas Cheema · Inspiring Stories

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Thank you for listening to de Pictures Media Radio. You rat you readything to
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me? Oh well, jus well, not a bad dude. Stop alone,
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I just see sow spassion. Stop alone? Is it? Jazz event?
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Welcome back everybody, our next guest Jazz. Her work is about equity
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and fostering meaningful relationships through ancient teachings. It is a program she developed and
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she weaves with yoga and meditation with coursework that enables to participate to build healthy
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thought patterns and strong emotional foundations which turned into supports and meaningful, fulfilling life.
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Jazz connects with people in an honest and genuine manner. She has a
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MA in intercultural communication and has study various healing modalities. With her extensive training,
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she helps others clear limiting beliefs, generational trauma, break negative thought patterns,
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heal while healing these issues and challenges and limitations allow us to live a
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life of abundance in all areas of our lives. Will we jump in and
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start speaking with Jazz and find out what all this means? And find out
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the definition of the word sage that she has used in her business name Sage
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with Jazz, something Jaz, Welcome to the show, Jazz, and I'm
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probably gonna the word again. I'm going to ask you to define a hedge
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because it has a like other words, especially from Southeastern Asia, it has
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specific meanings that it takes a bunch of words to define what it means in
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English because it means more than what people think on the surface, right,
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m hmm. Yeah. So the seedge can be defined in many different ways,
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but it is a state of being right for me, It's a state
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of being and it's in that place of you could call it bliss, but
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you could call it connectedness, you could call it oneness, but it's it's
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where I know I'm being taken care of, that I know there's flow in
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my life, and you know there might not that there's no ups and downs
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in your lif But then when you're in that place, you're able to be
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that witness, to be able to witness the world around you and remain in
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that place of calm. Mhmm, that place of calm. I like that.
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So you've started with with that, You've started a bunch of programs to
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help people discover their path towards the hedge, and we should say inner peace
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and resilience, right, mm hmmm, Yeah, there is a there is
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a there is a piece of resilience in there as well, because it's not
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that life isn't going to throw you any curve balls. Those curveball curve balls
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will come, but you allow them to move through you versus hanging on to
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that pain and just you know, always questioning why did this happen? Why
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did this happen? You recognize there is a floe in the world. There
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will be these ups and downs, but again you remain in that place of
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knowing and then calm and that peace and stillness. Right. So that's what
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I you know, when I was thinking of a name for my business,
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and you know, what is it? What is my purpose? And it
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is that to just bring people into this place of resiliency so come what way
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they were able to walk through it and just know that this too shall pass.
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Yeah. Well, was there like a series events that led you to
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this path? My life? My life? That's right, that life.
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And so throughout my life there have been many ups and downs and you know,
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and I was volunteering with hospice, sorry hospice, and as a volunteer,
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I noticed, you know, there were many individuals that were coming to
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me for help. I would speak to them and I would, you know,
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just hold space for them. And then two or three sessions, they
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would be okay, they would be off in doing what they need to do,
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and then until another loss or some event would you know, cause them
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to be back in that same place. And then you know, I'm going,
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oh, this is you know, you know, noticing this pattern.
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And then yet there were others that you know, it doesn't matter what came
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their way, They're able to get back up again and kind of just keep
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moving on. And during COVID, I had time to reflect and I,
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you know, I looked at, you know, what makes a person resilient?
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And one of the programs I looked at was Penn University's Resiliency Program,
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and I thought it really nicely defines some skill sets that people can have that
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you know, once we we have these skills, a different way of looking
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at life and what it's time to teach us and we as we you know,
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learned about some of our unconscious belief systems, we can then move forward
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in a more connected way and really understand life and the traumas that have have
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affected our life and what what is all this pain teaching me? And so
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as I move forward in life, I've had the loss of a spouse,
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I've had losses of different family members, job based cancer throughout this like I
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you know, had it had me all questioning life and why are you doing
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this to me? And that's what kind of led me on the road to
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kind of search for meaning, right, search for meaning? I think all
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of us human beings search for for that that that meaning one of the things
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that that I learned and and I heard you kind of go down this similar
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path when when we met at the Surrey Hospice conference the other day, that
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we have an event, we have teaching and we have learning. The event
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happens, it's trying to teach you something. What have we learned after the
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event has passed? Right? It is that a healthy way of looking at
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things. I think it's really healthy. Is it's one way to come to
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a place of forgiveness as well. If somebody's wronged you, if somebody's you've
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lost somebody through death, you know, you can come to a place of
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gratitude, gratitude for the time that you did have with them and the beautiful
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memories that they've left you with versus always being in this place of resentfulness or
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you know, why did they believe me? Why did this have to happen?
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And you're always questioning, you know, and you're always a victim of
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whatever is happening out there. You know it's happening to me, whereas you
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know, when you build your resiliency skills and have an understanding of life,
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then you're in the driver's seat and you see how you're creating whatever is going
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on around you, and how it's actually bringing you back to a truer,
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truer, more authentic you. And that's where I think there's so much joy
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and bliss when you actually are on that path and in you're understanding what's happening
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around you. That's what brings happiness then and then you're in that place of
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flow right like you're not you're not waiting for things. Things are kind of
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coming to you. Yeah, let me ask you this. Then when you
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finally find it's a hedge or that place of bliss right and in and you
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have it, it's centered in your life and you have and you have that
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place to ground you in your life. Uh, can We're always going to
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have events can, but can those events take all that away from us?
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Or because we're grounded in that the event happens, it may shake our are
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bliss, but it won't tear it away. Yes, that's exactly true.
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And so you know when you have that grounding and you know that you're you
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know, you're not the victim. So you know, if you lose your
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job, you lose a loved one, there's that grieving period for sure.
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We're human, after all, we're human, right, We're going through the
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human experience, and when we have a loss, we may we may feel
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sad and that this on a surface, you might see its tears, but
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underneath all of that, there's that groundedness that holds you together and kind of
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and you know, I always come back to that this is going to pass,
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right, I'm feeling is I need to feel the emotions of this.
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It's a loss, and so it's almost like you're witnessing that, you're witnessing
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that loss, and you're kind of going, oh, you know, actually
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this week we I was going through something like that, right, So I'm
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watching myself. I'm going through the tiers and I'm going, oh, there's
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jazz, you know, she's feeling sad right now because there's this big mountain
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that she's you know that she feels that she needs to climb over. And
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yet there was a part of me that kind of knew this is going to
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pass. This is okay, I'm okay, and I can still put on
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a smile and I can still show up right. Yeah, So they as
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as we put it there, the mountain isn't is it is? We're able
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to climb over the mountain? Yeah, there is. There is light on
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the on the other side. Yeah. Yeah. So how do you teach
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people to to go to find these things? What about your person? So
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a lot of it is around self awareness. So one of the keys that
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there were six pillars that Penn University discovered that an individual needed to kind of
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embody. One of them was self awareness. And I think even in a
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different text, it's you know, when you're saying you need to overcome your
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anger, greed and all that, like, you know, it's about knowing
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yourself. Right, So you know, what are my belief systems and where
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did I get them? Like are these things that my parents have you know,
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passed down to me or my ancestors have passed down to me or society
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is telling me my role in the world as a woman, as a leader,
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as whatever, and so understanding your belief systems and then kind of like
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are they really do I really really believe in this? Or is this something
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that I've been taught but you know, I really don't actually don't want to
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do that, right. So it's a great example for me was my role
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as a woman in my culture, it's very much defined, Oh, you're
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in the home, you're the you're the mother, you're the you know,
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the caregiver and everything. And you know what, you know, you're not
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going to be the leader. Your husband's going to be the leader, or
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another man's going to be a leader. And yet the role that I chose
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in this lifetime anyways is to be a leader in my community and to talk
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about these issues right and kind of say, well, no, I don't
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know if I really agree with this, that I have to stay at home
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and you know, make sure my roteas are around or right, and so
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there's other things other talents I do have, and recognizing that that these are
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things I'm good at, right, not necessarily what my parents taught me or
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society has taught me. I have other skills, so that I'd say the
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bigger piece of the program that I have is around self awareness, awareness of
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our traumas and even our ancestral traumas and how that is still affecting us in
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this life today. So the core crux of the program is around self awareness
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and how we again become the leaders in our own lives, right, versus
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blaming others for all of the pain that they've caused us, or you know,
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every little thing that they say pisses me off, versus you know what
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there's angers inside of me. Right, these are just triggers on the outside.
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So the first place, first thing is and then developing healthy relationships communication,
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having petire communication skills, uh, and then and really connecting with that
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that spiritual part of you, like whatever that may look like for you,
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like whether that's your true self, your authentic self, or whether you have
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a faith that you practice, just exploring all the font where where what's your
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connect to this world? Yeah, on the spiritual end of things, it's
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like every Sunday I put my reverend hat on and I do a talk about
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the love of God in our community and how we need to expand that with
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that we're talking about a lot of different life experiences and putting the blame on
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other people. How often does does that happen and leads to like things like
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self hatred and self doubt because we're meeting somebody else for what we could take
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responsibility for. Yeah, that's a really good point. And I just want
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to take one step back and what you said earlier around love. I know,
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since yesterday was Valentine's Day, you know, it was kind of reflecting
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on love and how society in itself, as you know, made love like
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so commercialized. And it's also always about having someone in front of me to
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love and then they should reflect that back to me and they should love me,
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and they better love me like how I want to be loved because otherwise
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of me right and and for me, it's like it's a state of being
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right and we are love. We are love all the time. We're love
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right, and we just have all of these you know masks that we wear
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that prevents us from from loving each other all the time, right. And
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so one of the beautiful scriptures that you know, I came across was just
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you know, being able to just see see the divine and everything and everyone,
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and just everything I look at, whether it's a plant or you know,
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computer or whatever, it's it's all the divine right and so just and
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when you see life from that place, that love just kind of wears out
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of your hard for everybody right and then and it starts with loving yourself too,
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because I'm also a creation of the divine right. And when I can
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really get into that, then I don't project that, oh I'm such a
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loser. I'm not good at this. I'm not good at that. You
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love yourself wholly right, holistically, and I do agree that that you have
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to really around the self awareness. One of the things I talk about is
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just being aware of our self talk. You know what am I always telling
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myself? And one of the biggest things for me. I grew up in
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a culture which where girls weren't valued, and so my big self talk is
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I don't matter. Right for me, I don't matter. And even with
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all of the things that I know, I do catch myself hearing that,
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right, So, you know, it's about being able to turn that self
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talk around and say, you know, I'm loved unconditionally. I'm loved unconditionally.
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When I do hear that self talk coming through, right, Yeah,
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I know for for myself, coming from a culture where you're supposed to be
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more drone like and just fit in and keep your head duck sort of thing.
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It's like I I keep I hear myself every night. Again, let's
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say, who am I to be doing this right? That's right? Or
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am I not right? Why not me? Or why not me? Why
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should I do this work right? Somebody needs to do why excellent? Yeah?
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Yeah, So that negative self talk like it's so important. Like I
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think a few years ago, you know, I lost my husband and that
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was another like you know, it's like, you know, you know,
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how are you going to survive as a single person and you know, children
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and all that, like, you know, like a woman on her own,
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Like especially when I was growing up, like it was just like oh,
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you know, we better go give her some money and we better you
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know, there was those were my role models, right, Like it was
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all like it was all about women having a support of a husband or a
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supportive brother because women won't survive on their own. So so that negative self
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talk will come in every now and then. And yet I have lots of
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abundance around me and I've proved all of that wrong. But it's very very
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deep. Those those words you know, probably like ancestral too, never mind
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just from this lifetime. Well yeah, the ancestral part. I want to
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get to the ancestral park. But I want to say this first. It's
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like, is there a point where we had to realize that we are love
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and we are abundance? Yes? Can we accept that we can be great?
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Yeah? Yeah? You just have gratitude right, and you know you,
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I mean you could be living in a hut and you still have gratitude
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for for for whatever it is. It's like the air you breathe and and
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not. Some of my hospice work too, like I I when you're working
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with people at the end of life, you know, they they don't have
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I mean, yeah, they have regrets of things they didn't do, but
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you know that was in those last moments. It's like, can I breathe
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enough breath to be able to see my wife again? Or can I breathe
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enough breaths so that I can see that child be born? Like you know,
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I want to know is that a boy or is a girl? Like
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you know, so you cannot have gratitude for anything and everything no matter how
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little you have. Yeah, so you know, there's a lot of events
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that happen in our lives, and one of is is like is like you
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were saying about how commercialized love is and Violentier's Day. I'm not going to
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be an absolute down on Valentine's Day, because hey, I like Valentine's Day.
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I like getting There's nothing wrong with being a part of that, you
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know, and saying Happy Valentine's Day. But I'm just saying, you know,
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I appreciate your love. How do we make that that, well,
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wish from one day expand into a whole lifetime of wishing everyone around this love
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and happiness and all those things that we say at certain occasions. How do
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we how do we extend that out? Well? I think I answered that
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earlier, which is about love is a state of being, right, So
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when love flows out of you, you don't need to choose like a day
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that I'm gonna you know, Yes, you can still wish people happy Valentine's
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Day or whatever day. But when that love is flowing through you, it's
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flowing twenty four seven, right, and when people come in contact with you,
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they feel that love. You don't have to say I love you.
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They just feel your love. And so I think again, that's the state
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we want to be, the more authentic us, without our masks on having
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to prove that we're a certain way or not a certain way. But yeah,
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like, and I'm not saying that we get there overnight unless there's some
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grace that pourson Like, it's a process, right, and then we see
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ourselves oh here, like I just said, like, oh, I hear
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that negative self talk coming in. It's telling me who am I to be
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doing an interview? There? No, but why not? Right? Like
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I've got all this great information that I'd love to share. Why not right?
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And so always watching that what's going on on the unconscious side, and
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before you know it, there will be less and less of that and more
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of you know. Even when you're looking at people, it's you just see
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them with love, right right, they feel your love now. And I
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think, like you know, I think in some cultures, especially even the
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word love, we've associated love and sex as one right, But love again,
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like I said, it's a state of just being. It's not something
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that the dirty or that you can't love everybody, you know, Like if
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I look at Garnonik who who is the founder of the sick faith? Like
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he loved everyone, whether you'd killed somebody, whether you know you were begging
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or whether you're the king or whatever. Everybody received love. There was no
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enemies, right. Yeah, I like that because when we Okay, I'm
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gonna poke at Christians for a little bit, because hey, I am I
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am a Christian, Okay, But there's the structure that is Christianity. And
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then there is with Jesus Christ taught and his teaching was everybody deserves love,
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it doesn't matter. Right. It was one of those is like you know,
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we we are that and that was how we were created. Right,
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We're all children of the divine. Yeah, I mean there we may get
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into where egos and do some strong things or hurt people and all that.
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Right, but if you if I think of, you know, people in
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my life that have hurt me, and then when I can look past their
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masks, right, like they were the ones that were in fear when they
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were trying to hurt me. Right, they were the ones they thought,
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you know, they were threatened by me or whatever it was. And then
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but if I could see them without their masks, they were they were just
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love, right, they were just beautiful beings, right right, Yeah,
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it is something that I like to say to a lot of people that I
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tell most people that cross my path, unless well most people across my path
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because I don't find too many people anymore because I'm always focused on the good
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in people. Yeah, that I find that good in them, and I'm
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finding myself telling more and more people how beautiful they truly are. And it
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isn't the hysthetic facial features or any it's that love that they're that they're projecting
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out from them, the beautiful. So yeah, so you, like I
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said, you have a whole program that that that you've built with a hedge,
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with with jazz, and what what are the the results that you want
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people to get from working with you, Well, that they're feeling more resilient,
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more self aware, self aware you know, of their own unconscious sort
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of unconscious belief systems, the unconscious dialogue that goes on within them, and
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that they come out with some tools that you know, when they are going
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through some hard times, that they're going to be able to you know,
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understand what they're going through and then come out of it still connected and able
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to move forward with the lessons that they've learned and really lead a life of
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authenticity connected to divine wisdom and that there will be flow in their life as
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well. So the program itself there is the the the educational part, but
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then it's coupled with yoga and some meditation so that you know, they can
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go, they can help move energy through through their body and learn some breeding
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techniques. So these are all tools that they can use as as a you
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know, move forward in life themselves. And also they can teach this to
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their their loved ones as well. YEA, create more peace and harmony in
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our homes. Who doesn't want that? I think that's something we all want,
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right I think? So, I think that is our goal. Right
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you used a another I think it in our cultural I should say, in
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our general area that that the word yoga is misused hm hmm, because we
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think of the Birkham's Yoga Center or the Hot Yoga Center where we yes,
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yes, yes, more of an exercise. Yeah, So if you could
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explain what you mean by yoga within within your programs, because it has different
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meanings, right, yeah, it definitely does. And so the yoga that
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I teach is Kunderlina yoga is taught by Yoga Budget and so I'm a certified
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yoga teacher with Yoga West and uh yeah, and so for me, the
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exercises or the koreas are all designed to move through something, right, so
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there you know, whether it is like you're trying to strengthen your your spine
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or your time to remove energy, to basically move energy from our lower chakras
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into our higher So that's where we want to be all the time, where
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we're more connected to our our the universource, to our authentic selves. And
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the yoga portion the eight the eight classes, it's all beginner's yoga, so
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it's nothing really really advanced. It's just designed to the block the energies that
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we have. And each each crea that I choose, its it matches whatever
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lesson that we're learning. So for lesson learning a lesson on surrender, or
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for learning a lesson on uh just maybe moving through some of our childhood traumas,
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that's the yoga postures will do for that day. And the feedback I've
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gotten from the students is that they come to the class and by the end
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of the class there they have such sound sleep that they feel that they have
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no worry in the world, and so it's been so positive to see some
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of the changes the participants have gone through s if you is actually doing a
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study or around one set of classes I did. They interviewed the participants before
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they took the classes and then after and kind of are looking at their mental
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health for and after and the pliminary results I've seen and yeah, what the
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participants are just systhetic about how you know, if they were going through depression
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or anxiety, and how much better they're feeling after the eight weeks, and
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how they're how they're using the tools to really help them in their daily lives.
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M Yeah. The meditations themselves are again from some of them are from
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different I've taken them from different modalities and UH and again are basically allowing ourselves
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to kind of connect with our unconscious self for connect with the divine, come
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to a place of peace and just quietening those thoughts. So yeah, they're
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all yeah, very much the feedback I get. It doesn't matter what faith
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you're from. Like, I think they're feeling a lot more calmer. Yeah,
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yeah, I know. I used to go to there was a center
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in in UH in Vancouver. I used to go to and there was just
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one time we were going through the the the yoga meditations and everything right,
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and hers was definitely about meditation. And I hadn't slept in like a couple
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of days just because of work. Right just kept me, kept me going,
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going, going going, and like and it was such a calm place,
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and she was such such a cool person that I fell asleep with the
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meditation and she just just left me where I was. She's like, well,
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no, that's what you you needed this time out of our class and
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say that was your calm was to be there. So that's how we had
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to respect all that. So yeah, no, I my one of my
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fondest memories is I'm going to see a hospice client and when I went in
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and there was you know, just talking to her. What I thought,
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I was just talking to her and doing a meditation with her, and then
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she fell asleep as well, and so I left and her daughter was there
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and I just you know, I was like around five in the evening,
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and so the next day I thought I'd just see, you know, how
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to check in how she's doing. And the daughter's like, oh my god,
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I don't know what you did to my mom and I'm like, oh
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my god, I got scared because for maybe she passed or something. And
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she goes, like, my mom slept from when you left, so seven
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in the morning the next day, and when she woke up, she said,
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where's that girl? And she goes, I'm like, Mom, I'm
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like, she left last night. And then she goes, oh my god,
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I feel like she took all of my pain with her. And on
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my side, I'm like, I don't know what I did, right,
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And so yeah, definitely, you you know, if you can help a
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client get into that deeper state kind of thing, it can really help with
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the healing and yeah, just moving moving them forward, yeah, whatever that
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next stage is for them. Yeah, so that's that's a really cool thing
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that you do with it with the yoga. So I always ask somebody one
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of these off the walk questions, right, what would what is the most
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beautiful place on on the world and why does it bring you bring you peace?
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Wow? The most beautiful place in the world. I guess I haven't
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traveled all the world, so I don't know, but I was going to
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say, just in my own in my own home, like in my home
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when I'm meditating. Like this morning, I start the morning with asadna,
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which is practice, I guess, and I just had the most beautiful experience
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this morning. I just felt like Guru wor God was talking to me and
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it was actually answering everything that I had been asking where I was talking to
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a friend about the night before, and I was just like wow, like
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this is this is like I guess, like I was in heaven right Like
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there's nothing that I need more, There's nothing like I don't know that I
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need to be anywhere else, Like just in that where my meditation corner is
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is bliss for me. Awesome. What are the best ways people can find
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you and work with you? Where can they find me? Did you say
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find you along with you? Oh? Okay, Yeah, if they'd like
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to work with me my I have a website Joshchima dot com and then or
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they can call me at six oh four five six one twenty seven hundred.
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Love to hear from you. Yeah great, Oh thank you for joining us
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today. It's been thank you been a lot of pleasure. I got a
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lot more to learn from you, and vice versa. I don't know you.
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I want to know more about your church where is it? Yeah?
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