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Almost Famous OG: Don’t Panic with Jamie Blyth · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the almost famous podcast with iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 2: Hello everybody.
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  Speaker 3: It's just it's been so long, and I'm so excited
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  Speaker 3: to get back in front of the mic and actually
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  Speaker 3: bring it back to the OG's kind of really truly
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  Speaker 3: bring it back to the ogs, obviously with my lovely
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  Speaker 3: co host Bob Guinea, who is looking trim and tan,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm very jealous about that.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks. Yeah, it's amazing.
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  Speaker 4: You know, when you're when you're our age and you
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  Speaker 4: have a six year old and a three year old
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  Speaker 4: and you find out your cholesterols for the roof, you
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  Speaker 4: do whatever you can to get in shape fast. So
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  Speaker 4: that that and a lot of travel has basically been
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  Speaker 4: the gist of it.
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  Speaker 1: But thank you. That's a very nice compliment. I appreciate it,
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  Speaker 1: of course. And I've missed you, t Bone. I have
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  Speaker 1: missed you, my friend.
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  Speaker 2: I know it's really been forever.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I know you're doing the I Do Part
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  Speaker 3: two every so often, and I just I'm like, I
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  Speaker 3: am just out in never never Land on an island,
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  Speaker 3: just waiting. Just give me a call, pick me, pick me.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I am so glad we're back, and I'm really
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  Speaker 4: glad to be back. I mean, I I've been kind
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  Speaker 4: of excited about this one for a while to have
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  Speaker 4: basically you talk about ogs. This is about as og
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  Speaker 4: as it's gotten for us on this show. Only well
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  Speaker 4: obviously you and I are o G episode every day,
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  Speaker 4: but when we had Ryan on, of course, that was
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  Speaker 4: that was about as og as it gets.
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  Speaker 1: And then this one.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, this dude was my partnering crime on your
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  Speaker 4: season when we were on the Trista season of the
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  Speaker 4: inaugural season of The Bacheorette, and it was incredible. I
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  Speaker 4: don't know what either one of us would have done
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  Speaker 4: without each other on the on the show. And I
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  Speaker 4: leaned on him a lot, he leaned on me a lot.
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  Speaker 4: But we were we were basically Mutt and Jeff in
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  Speaker 4: it through your season night one, literally from night one
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  Speaker 4: until now. I mean, I am still He's the guy
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  Speaker 4: I keep in the most touch with besides you, of course,
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  Speaker 4: from from that season of the show, and we've remained
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  Speaker 4: very very very good friends. And and he's he's we
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  Speaker 4: always used to joke at that time, I said, gosh,
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  Speaker 4: with his face and everything else of me, we make
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  Speaker 4: one really nice guy.
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  Speaker 1: That was the only Jamie, because Jamie was just such
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  Speaker 1: a hot mess.
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  Speaker 4: And we're talking about my buddy, Jamie blythe who is
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  Speaker 4: a is a wonderful person, and we just would rip
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  Speaker 4: on each other constantly and it was so much fun.
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  Speaker 4: And we brought Ryan into that mix more than once.
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  Speaker 4: Ryan and I would tease it with Jamie, and Jamie's
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  Speaker 4: just so great.
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  Speaker 1: At taking it.
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  Speaker 4: But he's you talk about somebody who's overcome some stuff
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  Speaker 4: in his life. You know, you wouldn't look at this
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  Speaker 4: guy and think he has a single problem in the world, right,
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  Speaker 4: But then you you get to know him a little bit,
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  Speaker 4: and there's so much when you peel the onion, there's
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  Speaker 4: so much more to him than he even gives himself
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  Speaker 4: credit for. And he's really leaned into it. He's really
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  Speaker 4: embraced it. And I love that and I love him
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  Speaker 4: for that, Yeah, I really do. But I think it's
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  Speaker 4: gonna be such a fun reunion to have the three
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  Speaker 4: of us together because the last time the three of
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  Speaker 4: us were together, and I will bring this up, by
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  Speaker 4: the way, I will bring up this story. I'll actually
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  Speaker 4: say that, I'll say of it because I know you
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  Speaker 4: know the story. He knows it really well. But I'll
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  Speaker 4: never forget our beach date with Jamie.
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  Speaker 1: Do you remember that one? Yes? I did?
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  Speaker 2: Sure do.
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  Speaker 3: You've told this story before, so it's not like our
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  Speaker 3: listeners are going to be shocked.
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  Speaker 2: But yes, it is a funny story. Okay, I think
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  Speaker 2: he's in the waiting room, So are you ready to
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  Speaker 2: bring him in?
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  Speaker 1: I am. Let's do it. Let's do it, so, Trista.
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  Speaker 5: Since the last time you've seen me, which might have
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  Speaker 5: been like nineteen forty five, sometimes.
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  Speaker 6: Briefly right after World War Two, I think little bit.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a long time.
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  Speaker 5: It has been a long time. I've gained thirty pounds
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  Speaker 5: since then. I bet you I'm bob. What are you
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  Speaker 5: weighing on? I bet I'm two ten. I bet you
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  Speaker 5: I got you beat.
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  Speaker 1: You're two pounds heavier than me.
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  Speaker 6: There we go. It all came full circle. Buddy.
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  Speaker 1: Let me just say this.
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  Speaker 4: I cannot I've never tried harder to get someone on
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  Speaker 4: this show in my life.
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  Speaker 6: You've never dealt with someone dumber.
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  Speaker 1: That's valid.
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  Speaker 7: That's what we've got.
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  Speaker 2: We've got dumb and dumber shop we do.
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  Speaker 3: Oh lord, you guys need to get together for Halloween
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  Speaker 3: and actually like dress up like dumming. Could you please
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  Speaker 3: that could we do a Halloween episode.
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  Speaker 5: My son realized very early well COVID that I was
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  Speaker 5: an idiot because Seema's very smart, she's great at math
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  Speaker 5: as mother, and I was trying to do kindergarten maybe
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  Speaker 5: first grade math.
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  Speaker 6: I'm like, I can't do that. I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: It's really hard. Now, do you give yourself some credit?
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  Speaker 3: Because the way that they teach math now, it's really hard.
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  Speaker 4: I was going to say, it's not the old school math,
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  Speaker 4: and you got to show your work, and like for
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  Speaker 4: us showing our work, you'll end with the same answer,
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  Speaker 4: but you got to do it in this different way,
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  Speaker 4: which I'm going to have to tackle next year.
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  Speaker 6: I'll stick to the sports.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah good, I did exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Let the teachers do their job. You stick to basketball.
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  Speaker 1: How are you.
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  Speaker 6: I'm doing great.
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  Speaker 5: It's probably been like corenty something years since, like we've spoken.
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  Speaker 5: I bet something like that.
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  Speaker 2: At least twenty years.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, obviously you were at the wedding that was
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  Speaker 3: will be twenty two years in December, but I feel
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  Speaker 3: like we saw each other at some point after that.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not sure.
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  Speaker 5: I'm sure there was like some an event of some
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  Speaker 5: sort that we saw each other for sure.
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  Speaker 1: At my season premiere. Well, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 6: That's probably what it was.
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  Speaker 1: That would have been.
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  Speaker 2: Do you have pictures from that, Bob?
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  Speaker 4: I found some a while ago Andrew fire someone I
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  Speaker 4: got a couple and sent them to me too, and
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  Speaker 4: so I had a couple from that.
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  Speaker 6: Hey, Bob, this is kind of funny.
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  Speaker 5: I was going through some old stuff here and you
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  Speaker 5: won't be able to see this, but this is in
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  Speaker 5: the Chicago Tribune or sometimes or one of those, and
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  Speaker 5: it reads, Jamie blythe Bachelor, Bob was a lot funnier
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  Speaker 5: when he was fat. And then they go, this was
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  Speaker 5: I just saw this today. I was looking for some
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  Speaker 5: stuff and they say, do you detect a little jealousy
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  Speaker 5: from bachelor at Jamie?
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  Speaker 1: So wait, you said that and they were ripping on you.
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  Speaker 6: They wrote that in the Tribune. So I thought you
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  Speaker 6: would enjoy.
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  Speaker 1: That, you know, I love that. Yeah, I love that.
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  Speaker 4: But you weren't wrong. I was funnier, and uh, you
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  Speaker 4: know they just edited me. They edited me romantically.
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  Speaker 3: On the Batchel Oh yeah, yeah, I know, because when
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  Speaker 3: you did when you did the Irish jig, that was edited.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember remember when we when we Uh, I
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  Speaker 4: think you might remember this. By know Jamie will remember this.
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  Speaker 4: So Jamie comes on, because you and I have talked
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  Speaker 4: about this twist. But I remember I gave this speech
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  Speaker 4: night one when I'm the bachelor, right, and I'm I
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  Speaker 4: give this speech about you know, hey, ladies, this is
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  Speaker 4: no prize, this is nothing to be upset about. In fact,
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  Speaker 4: I remember saying if you are sent home tonight, you're welcome.
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  Speaker 4: The only the women will stay. I'm sorry, I remember
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  Speaker 4: saying something like that, and and I was like, oh
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  Speaker 4: my god, that's gonna be so great when they air that,
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  Speaker 4: because that's truly how I feel.
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  Speaker 1: And they don't air it. They only air like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the Prince Charming moments or whatever. And You're like, come on, man.
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  Speaker 4: I even said, I was like a date with me
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  Speaker 4: at home. We are not Hella choppering it into a volcano.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no, my lady.
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  Speaker 4: Friend, we are grabbing we are grabbing my my my
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  Speaker 4: two speed chavette and we are cruising downtown Detroit.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I was like, you know, I mean, it
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  Speaker 1: was just but none of that, manut, none of that.
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  Speaker 4: Me the air.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, of course it came up.
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  Speaker 6: So you know what was so great was.
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  Speaker 5: I was like absolutely just terrified to go on that show.
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  Speaker 5: And I was the first guy out of the limo.
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  Speaker 5: I'm figuring they're going to give me some direction. They
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  Speaker 5: didn't tell me anything, so I just kind of got
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  Speaker 5: out and it was sort of like kind of like dumb, dumber.
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  Speaker 5: I'm just sort of looking around because there's like producers,
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  Speaker 5: there's Trista, there's all these people, and I think they
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  Speaker 5: did two takes?
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  Speaker 2: Did they?
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  Speaker 6: I don't know, I'm pretty sure.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, So wheat had you watched the show before?
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  Speaker 6: No? I had no frame of reference.
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  Speaker 3: And you're obviously we know why you didn't want to
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  Speaker 3: apply to the show or it was kind of out
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  Speaker 3: of your comfort zone. We'll talk about that a little
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  Speaker 3: bit later, but you know, you didn't think it was
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  Speaker 3: something that you could do, So I'd love to know
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  Speaker 3: why you did it. Like I, you overcame a lot
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  Speaker 3: of you know, mental stress.
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  Speaker 5: It was absolutely terrifying for me. So I was pretty
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  Speaker 5: late in the game. I was actually at a I
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  Speaker 5: think I was at a bar at Sunset for like
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  Speaker 5: some sales award I had won, and Lisa Levinson was
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  Speaker 5: there and she said, hey, you'd be great for the
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  Speaker 5: show The Bachelor. Should they actually kind of leapfrog me
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  Speaker 5: for the Bachelor? But Bobby, how much of a disaster
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  Speaker 5: with that?
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  Speaker 1: About?
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  Speaker 6: Holy cow?
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  Speaker 1: You would have been great dude?
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  Speaker 6: Right?
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  Speaker 5: But anyway, when I was you know, Bobby's heard the
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  Speaker 5: story bunch. But when I was nineteen, kind of out
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  Speaker 5: of nowhere, I had a panic attack. I was never
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  Speaker 5: socially phobic. I never had a panic attack. I didn't
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  Speaker 5: know what it was. I won't go through the whole
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  Speaker 5: long story, but the long and short of it is
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  Speaker 5: my the biggest fear became people. So I literally had
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  Speaker 5: clinical panic disorder in sociophobia. So it happened talking to
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  Speaker 5: a person in college. I was probably one month in
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  Speaker 5: and then kind of like anybody, but back, especially thirty
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  Speaker 5: years ago, I didn't know what the hell it was. Right,
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  Speaker 5: It's not like they talked about this stuff and it just,
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  Speaker 5: you know, I thought it was a one time occurrence.
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  Speaker 5: I was talking to a buddy. It was in the morning,
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  Speaker 5: maybe one month into school, and then I'm like, all right, well,
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  Speaker 5: what the hell was that? And then I went to
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  Speaker 5: class and I had to talk in class, and I
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  Speaker 5: was always okay with it. I was never great at it,
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  Speaker 5: but I was always okay with it, and all of
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  Speaker 5: a sudden, I had a panic attack there, and you know,
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  Speaker 5: I'm sure it was just a lot of stress from
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  Speaker 5: college and just change and all these things going on.
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  Speaker 6: And then I left the.
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  Speaker 5: Class and then everywhere I went after that, I had
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  Speaker 5: a panic attack. So it creates avoidance, and then so
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  Speaker 5: you know, I just I didn't leave my dorm room
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  Speaker 5: for two weeks.
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  Speaker 6: And then my mom called me and she said, what's
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  Speaker 6: going on.
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  Speaker 5: I broke down crying, and then she had had a
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  Speaker 5: panic attack before, so she kind of knew what was
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  Speaker 5: going on, which was thankful to me. I just thought
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  Speaker 5: I was going crazy, right, and I didn't know it
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  Speaker 5: was kind of that other people had this. I didn't
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  Speaker 5: even know what it was.
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  Speaker 6: And then she was, you know, was trying to get
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  Speaker 6: me to leave school and to pick me up to
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  Speaker 6: go home, and I just, you know, knowing Bob knows
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  Speaker 6: my personality, I'm a little hard headed, and I think
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  Speaker 6: we all are a little bit. We're all fun but
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  Speaker 6: hard headed probably at the same time. And I just
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  Speaker 6: I there was part of me that I couldn't quit.
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  Speaker 6: I didn't want to necessarily give into it. I didn't
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  Speaker 6: know how to fight it, so ultimately I did. I
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  Speaker 6: made it through the year.
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  Speaker 5: But you know, if you fast forward through college, I
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  Speaker 5: just sort of lived on the periphery where if you're
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  Speaker 5: at a big school, you know you could You went
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  Speaker 5: to Indiana, right and Bob, I know, you went to
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  Speaker 5: Michigan State. So if you're at a big school, you
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  Speaker 5: could kind of hang out in the back of class.
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  Speaker 5: You don't have to talk that type of thing. So
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  Speaker 5: my mom was a registrar to school, so she picked
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  Speaker 5: classes where I didn't have to do that. And I
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  Speaker 5: made it out of college in four years by just
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  Speaker 5: sort of isolating myself.
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  Speaker 6: I didn't go on dates.
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  Speaker 5: I didn't go on one date from nineteen to maybe
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  Speaker 5: twenty four or five. And where I overcame it was
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  Speaker 5: in sales. So there was a guy where I grew
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  Speaker 5: up on the basketball court. I was always pretty comfortable
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  Speaker 5: playing basketball, and he just he said, Hey, I'm doing
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  Speaker 5: this startup tech company. Do you want to be one
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  Speaker 5: of my sales guys. And that's where I really dealt
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  Speaker 5: with it. And it was the hardest thing outside of
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  Speaker 5: maybe the bacherette, that I've ever done. But every day
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  Speaker 5: you had to like a quote. If you didn't hit
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  Speaker 5: it for one month, you were fired. And it was intense.
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  Speaker 5: You had to do one hundred two hundred cod calls
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  Speaker 5: a day, so I was getting exposure every single day
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  Speaker 5: to what I was afraid of. But the second week
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  Speaker 5: on the job, we had to do this role play,
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  Speaker 5: which is Bob, I know you were in sales and
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  Speaker 5: maybe had to do some of this, But the president
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  Speaker 5: was this typical kind of hard ass guy from a movie.
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  Speaker 6: Glengarry Glenn ROSSI that type of guy.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, And I mean you could put this guy
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  Speaker 5: in the movie and he would be be the same,
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  Speaker 5: you know. So he had it was on stage and
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  Speaker 5: I had a role play with this guy, and I
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  Speaker 5: was the last guy to go.
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  Speaker 6: There's probably one hundred people nowadays. I walked up there.
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  Speaker 5: I'm twenty one years old, trying to hide a panic
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  Speaker 5: disorder that nobody knew I had, and I was trying
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  Speaker 5: to control it to the best of my abilities. And
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  Speaker 5: then I went up there and I was a toast.
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  Speaker 5: I just started a panic right away, and I'm like,
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  Speaker 5: I'm a fed right, And so what happened is you
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  Speaker 5: just shut down, and it's kind of like if you
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  Speaker 5: know people what does it feel like if somebody put
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  Speaker 5: a gun to your head randomly, like right now, you'd
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  Speaker 5: feel fight or flight? Right it's light, so that's what
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  Speaker 5: I felt. So it's just at the long time because
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  Speaker 5: you're talking to a person. So your whole thing is, well,
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  Speaker 5: I got to.
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  Speaker 6: Leave, I got to escape. I got to get out
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  Speaker 6: of there. And luckily the guy got a phone call
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  Speaker 6: the last second and he said, hey, you got saved.
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  Speaker 5: You knew I was scared, and I was about to
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  Speaker 5: break down, crying and just walk out and leave, and
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  Speaker 5: then my mom picked me up. We went to dinner
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  Speaker 5: and my face just fell in the past. I remember that,
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  Speaker 5: just bawling, crying, and again it was you need to quit,
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  Speaker 5: you need to quit, you need to quit, that type
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  Speaker 5: of thing. No, I won't go through the whole story,
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  Speaker 5: but that was where I overcame it. I worked twenty
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  Speaker 5: four to seven. I never slept. I still don't sleep really.
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  Speaker 5: I probably slept an hour a night if that. And
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  Speaker 5: I just worked on my presentation. I worked on everything
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  Speaker 5: that you kind of need to do to confront beating
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  Speaker 5: an anxiety disorder, which you don't really beat it. But
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  Speaker 5: I was in the ring, so to speak, and then
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  Speaker 5: it was very incremental. The people that I value were
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  Speaker 5: sports people, especially coaches. Rick Patino, I basically plagiarized its book.
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  Speaker 5: I hope he never reads mine. He probably won't, but
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  Speaker 5: I really took a lot of my philosophy from him.
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  Speaker 6: I read all the books, and you know, from therapists.
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  Speaker 5: I saw therapists this sus great I needed, but they
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  Speaker 5: didn't have an anxiety disorder, right.
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  Speaker 6: I wanted somebody that can I could relate to.
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  Speaker 5: And that kind of goes back to the show I'm doing,
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  Speaker 5: where I'm interviewing people that didn't necessarily have an anxiety
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  Speaker 5: disorder per se, but.
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  Speaker 6: I could relate to them. They had some sort of
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  Speaker 6: adversity that they had overcome, and that's kind of the
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  Speaker 6: universal thing for all of us. But going back to
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  Speaker 6: your question really quick.
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  Speaker 5: Sorry, going on the show was terrifying, but I had
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  Speaker 5: incrementally sort of built myself to a place where I
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  Speaker 5: could kind of face it. But if it was twenty two,
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  Speaker 5: twenty three, twenty four or five years old, I couldn't
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  Speaker 5: have done it. There's no way. I mean, I just
• 15:48
  Speaker 5: wasn't there yet. And I really wasn't there when I
• 15:50
  Speaker 5: did the show and so I didn't know what was
• 15:53
  Speaker 5: going to happen. But the night before there was a
• 15:56
  Speaker 5: real concern that I was going to break down crying
• 15:58
  Speaker 5: on the show pan attack.
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: That was a concern of yours, Jamie or the pretty.
• 16:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, well I thought I thought I was going
• 16:07
  Speaker 5: to break down. Actually this goes back to you. You
• 16:08
  Speaker 5: saved my ass, but I'll go back to that. But yeah, no,
• 16:12
  Speaker 5: I thought I was going to break down crying with
• 16:13
  Speaker 5: a panic attack. But I was at a place where
• 16:16
  Speaker 5: I was willing to confront it. Yeah, and whether even
• 16:20
  Speaker 5: if I did that, even if and I knew the
• 16:21
  Speaker 5: cameras would follow me unexploited, I knew all that, which
• 16:24
  Speaker 5: intensifies the fear right because if you're if you have panic,
• 16:28
  Speaker 5: the sort of social phobia, the last thing you want
• 16:29
  Speaker 5: to do is be the center of attention. You don't
• 16:31
  Speaker 5: want to be on a camera, you don't want lights
• 16:33
  Speaker 5: on you.
• 16:34
  Speaker 6: You just want to escape and avoid.
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: So my whole thing was confront and if I fail,
• 16:39
  Speaker 5: meaning public humiliation, great.
• 16:43
  Speaker 6: I was at that place where I was kind of strong.
• 16:45
  Speaker 5: Enough to do that and kind of radical acceptance of
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: any outcome was what I was looking for. But it
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: was supremely hard. But when I got out of that
• 16:54
  Speaker 5: limo and I saw you, I made it quick. You
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: look you know it was you looked great. I said hi,
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: and I was on my way. And then I went
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: and sat in this mansion and I was kind of like,
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: what the hell am I doing here? This is crazy?
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: What did I get myself into? I am like, I
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: am dead? And then this guy walks in. I can't
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: remember his name anything.
• 17:14
  Speaker 6: It was Billy or something, you.
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: Know, talking to him, and he was sort of hyper competitive,
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: like if you wanted to win this damn thing, you
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: could just tell And I'm like, I don't know if
• 17:23
  Speaker 5: I want to be here.
• 17:25
  Speaker 6: And then Bob walks in, like I think right after him.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: Maybe I was. I was number three. I was number
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: three out of the law.
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Ryan was after you, right, Wasn't Ryan
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: the fourth?
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: He was the last one out of the first limo?
• 17:38
  Speaker 7: Yeah?
• 17:39
  Speaker 6: What was so great about what Bob did? I mean?
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: It was it was honestly amazing because when you when
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: you look at how nervous I was, and then you
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: look at how and you'd have to tell me, Bob,
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: you didn't you were the opposite. You were having fun.
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: And I knew you were screwing with this guy. And
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: it was probably my favorite conversation of my entire life.
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: I told you I met him years later, didn't I. No, Okay,
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: go ahead, you tell the story and then and I'll
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: tell it.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you that.
• 18:05
  Speaker 6: This is how I recall it. It was so long ago,
• 18:07
  Speaker 6: but I remember we're kind of all talking what.
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: Do you do?
• 18:10
  Speaker 6: What do you do? What do you do?
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: And uh and the guy who was trying to a
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: kind of badass and he's like, I'm a martial artist.
• 18:17
  Speaker 6: And then you go, I'm also a martial artist.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: I said, I too, am a martial artist.
• 18:23
  Speaker 6: Yes, And I knew you were screwing with him. And
• 18:25
  Speaker 6: I'm like, this is this guy really screwing up?
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: This guy here, Like we just got in here and
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: I had been sitting in this damn mansion for like
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: an hour, and and the guy got kind of you know, competitive,
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: and he goes, what's your discipline? And you go, tybo,
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: and he goes, that's not a discipline. And you go,
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: do you tell that to Billy Blanks will kick your ass.
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: I mean, it was just the And then you push
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: that guy out in the center of the ring, like
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: in the carpet when we were all there and you
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: told him to do the dance.
• 18:57
  Speaker 6: Do is like martial art moves in front of trista guys,
• 19:03
  Speaker 6: do it?
• 19:04
  Speaker 7: Who was it?
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: What's his name?
• 19:06
  Speaker 6: I think it was Billy right.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: I have him in my phone and I will tell
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: you this.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: Do you have it under martial artist?
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: I have that. I do have an under hold on
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I have it at.
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: So, by the way, you know what. He was a firefighter.
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: His name was Billy Perlata.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: Billy Billy. He went, he left the first night.
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: He did Billy Peralta and he was a firefighter at
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: the time in l A. And now and now he's
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: in Louisville, or not Louisville, maybe he was in Ohio
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: or something. But he was at the derby and he
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: came over to me and he's like, man, I don't
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: know if you remember me or not, but I had
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: I had the best memories of you from that night.
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: And he's like, you told me that you did martial
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: art with Billy Billy Blanks.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh my god, I'm like I remember that.
• 19:50
  Speaker 6: Do you remember that?
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: Yes, he was gonna kill me because he.
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: Pushed him into the thing and he was like, he
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: went like that and then he starts jumping around like
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: a monkey.
• 20:00
  Speaker 6: I think you cut him first.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: Well I cut him that night. That's not why I
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: think he was really young, really.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: Young he was because he's super young now. I mean
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: he's still such a nice guy too.
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, oh my god, yes, I totally remember you,
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: and yeah, I do remember that.
• 20:16
  Speaker 7: Oh man, I have a question.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: So after you know, obviously we can talk about the
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: show too, but afterwards, you know, they give you the
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: opportunities to speak to a psychologist. Did you ever consult
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: with a psychologist before, during, or after the show to
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: talk about before?
• 20:44
  Speaker 6: I did, and I think I just lied about it.
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: In retrospect, I think I was really intense for The
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: Bachelor because I was like, which, again, they have to
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: be smoking crack. But I was like, final four or
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: five for The Bachelor, they sort of leave frog me. Yeah,
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: and then so that was pretty obviously you guys went
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: through that.
• 21:05
  Speaker 6: But yeah, for.
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: Aaron Burgee's season, you were being looked at for the
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: Bachelor for.
• 21:10
  Speaker 7: That a season.
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah, remember, like, yeah, a few people that we would
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: both know that are pretty big names were vying for
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: it that I.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: Won't mention their names, but why not mention their names?
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: Oh?
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: One of them is a friend of mine and he
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: went on a different show, Bill Rantick.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: Bill Ransick.
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Bill is such a First of all, love Bill
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: Ransick and he's a great guy.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: I'll never get him bring it up to me.
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: He's like, you know, they talked to me about The Bachelor,
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: and I was like, no kidding, and.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: I didn't know the timing of it.
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: And he's like, it would have been before you were
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: even on the Bachelorette and he's like yeah, And then
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: they came to me with a different show and he
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: was and I just felt like that show was more
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: my speed. And I'm like, yeah, I think you and
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: you ended up leinning it, you know, which is amazing.
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: You ended up learning the Apprentice.
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: He's a he's a great guy.
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: Good, he's a friend of mine and yeah, obviously from Chicago,
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: but love that guy. The Apprentice would have been a
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: better show for me. But yeah, Tristan, they slide to him.
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: I never mentioned it. I was doing my best to
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: hide it and just to see what would happened. And
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: then I knew, like even at the worst of it
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: that you know, it sounds a cliche and kind of
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: cheesy or whatever, but I knew there was some growth
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: on the other side of just facing something that fearful
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: for me, I guess for you, like I was scared
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: out of my mind. So you guys both went through
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: the same thing. But Trista was the first Bacheorette ever. Yeah,
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: so it kind of goes back to like when I
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: reviewed Mike Tyson. I'm very interested in that because I
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: know the night before I didn't sleep. I was outrageously
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: scared because of what I was dealing with. But you
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: guys were the batchleror bacheorette. What does that feel like
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: the night before? I mean, were you nervous? Did you
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: have any doubt? Did you have any fear?
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: Heck, yeah, yes, a lot.
• 22:51
  Speaker 7: I mean I was.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: I think I bet Bob would feel the same, and
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: I think certainly all the leads feel in a way
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: the same. I feel like you're really excited it for
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: the potential of, you know, your future, and then it's
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: also like, oh my gosh, what am I doing? Like
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: you said, I feel like that's probably a very common
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: sentiment with anyone who goes on the show, and then
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: I have to say, you know, you said, you know,
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: going through the worst of it. You know, after you
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: publicly announced that you had suffered and were suffering from
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: panic disorder, all I could think about was, oh, my gosh,
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: you were the biggest Why were you so.
• 23:30
  Speaker 7: Mean to Jamie?
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: Even though I didn't feel like I was mean to Jamie,
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: but I was. I was like, honest, But if I
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: had known that you suffered through panic disorder, like I
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: definitely wouldn't have been like, oh yeah, you can kiss me.
• 23:45
  Speaker 6: You were I thought you were. No, I thought you
• 23:48
  Speaker 6: were great. Actually, know where it came out.
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: I think this is where because you know, I didn't
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: realize they had hidden mics everywhere.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, I think.
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: Me and you were talking about something personal between both
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: of us, and I told you that in confidence.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: There I think, oh you did, okay.
• 24:09
  Speaker 6: I think so that's a guess.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: Actually that does that does sound familiar now that you're
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: saying that show they have maybe on the during the
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: the SPA date. I don't know, maybe during the spot.
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: So let's talk about that. That that date, So.
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: If you want to talk about I'm sure it was
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: awful for you, but like that that.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: Was the full stop it.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: Well, hold on, hold on, let's let this stage a
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: little bit here.
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: So, okay, it's trist this season of The Bachelorette, right,
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: Jamie and I are on a date with Trista. I
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: want I want to tell the story that leads into
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: the story first.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: So we are to the beach. We're on the beach.
• 24:51
  Speaker 6: Well that was a different one, but yeah.
• 24:53
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that was a different date.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: This was this was the full party.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the sad was.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: The full party.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: Right, so this was the first time that this something
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: of this nature may have happened, so I'll never forget it.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: I am standing there and I don't know what.
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: To do, and one of the producers says, well, hey, Bob,
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: you know, Trista came to us earlier today and said, god,
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: I really, I really, I feel like Bob's in the
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: friend zone and I really want them to kiss me.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: And I'm like really, and they're like, oh.
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'm like and I've gotten to know Trista,
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: We've got to know you really well at this point,
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: I feel, and I'm like, so you're telling me that
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: Trista walked up to you and said, man, today would
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: be the perfect day, if only Bob would come up
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: and try and put us tongue in my mouth and
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: they're like yeah.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, no, hey, that did not happen. That
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: did not happen. And see, I'm not doing it. And
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: so I walk away and.
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: I'm like, we're on a group date with five guys
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: and she wants someone to try to make out with her.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: I don't think so. So I walk over and I
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: grab two beers and I'm not even a big beer guy.
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: And I come walking back and I'm like, where's Jamie
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: And he goes, hey, you go back there. Jamie's out
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: there with Trista and I'm like, I look, and he
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: was Jamie leaning in for a kiss.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: It goes Tristan little.
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: He goes and he kisses around the cheek and I'm like,
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: my timing, My god, thank god.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: They went to him and I didn't listen, you know,
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: but he listened.
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: I think it's the wisdom that you had a couple
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: of years older. You're like, now, I'm not came up
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: and asked me too. It was just like the wrong time.
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: But even honestly, even that, I was like, yeah, I'll
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: try it.
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: What the hell, but what I loved and this is
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: my favorite part. So at the end, now I'm second
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: guessing myself.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: So we get in the limo and we're all going
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: to go home and I and we're all getting ready
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: to to a toast, and I go, hey, before we
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: say anything, I go, Trista, I want you to know.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: You know, here, we're on a date with five guys.
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: I mean, Trista, you might not even remember this, but
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: I remember saying this to you. And the reason why
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: I remember it was because my best buddy Jamie's sitting
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: right next to you.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: I'm at the end.
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: He's like, in with you, and I go, you know,
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: if we're on a group date like this, and if
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: we aren't trying to be affectionate with you or anything, it's
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: out of respect for you.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: And I look at Jamie's like, and I go, but.
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: If we are trying that, then maybe we have a
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: different connection.
• 27:20
  Speaker 6: I saw you, so I'm like, or.
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: You know, if we are trying, then maybe it's because
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: we have a different connection.
• 27:29
  Speaker 6: Then oh god, but you know, we all have so much.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: Respect for you and we just don't want to you know.
• 27:34
  Speaker 6: And I remember you saw my face and it was
• 27:37
  Speaker 6: just like a ghost.
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: Don't throw me under the bus, and then we are Okay,
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: So let's go back to the other one. So now
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: we're on the spa date again, Jamie and I together,
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: you know, the two of.
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: Course, we're in a we're in a hot tub. I
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: think half our relationship spend in a hot tub.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: I love that you're saying half of our relationship yours
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: and bops.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say, because ninety percent of the relationship
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: with Trista, for you, has been in the hotel.
• 28:07
  Speaker 6: Yeah, right, I have.
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: To say I contracted ringworm in that hot tub, and
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: I should have told Trista, so it should like any
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: of the final suitors didn't.
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: Oh my god, whatever, this is his humor. He's kidding,
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: he's kidding.
• 28:20
  Speaker 6: Is that the Jamie we know?
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: This humor is like trust me, trusted, he's kidding, he's kidding. Okay,
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: So let's cut back to the spa date and let's
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: go from there. Okay, because this is where this one
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: actually makes makes the uh. It does not get end
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: up on the cutting rom floor. This one makes it
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: into the season.
• 28:39
  Speaker 6: Oh my god.
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: So we're having a good time, like we're in the hotel,
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: there's me and you. I don't know who else was
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: in there, and you.
• 28:44
  Speaker 6: All remember bout.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah Ryan was on that day too.
• 28:50
  Speaker 6: That's amazing. So and Ryan was the best man. He
• 28:53
  Speaker 6: was awesome. I actually met him. He might have been
• 28:58
  Speaker 6: the first person I met. And I'm kind of like,
• 29:00
  Speaker 6: maybe this will be okay, because I was really worried
• 29:03
  Speaker 6: what type of person would be there. Yeah, and I
• 29:06
  Speaker 6: remember sitting in the I think I was in his limbo.
• 29:08
  Speaker 6: I want to.
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: Say we were all on the same level. We were
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: in the same level.
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: So he was just so nice and normal, and I
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: remember he's saying he played football for the Panthers, and
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: he just seemed kind of like this humble, smart, nice guy.
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: So I'm like, wow, this is might be different than
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: what I thought. Anyway, So the producers come up to me.
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: I think we had a contest, Bob, and somebody's like,
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: whoever wins it has to you know, we're going to
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: do a massage with Tristan. Yeah, Trista, nothing against you,
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: but I didn't want to have a pantic attack, right,
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: So it could have been anybody, and all I was
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: hoping I was praying it wasn't wasn't going to be
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: me because I don't want to have a panic attack.
• 29:47
  Speaker 6: And then I won.
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: I got it. So now I'm like, oh my god, okay, massage.
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: What does that mean? I don't really know you yet, right,
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: So we're having a massage and I actually felt believe
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: it or not, Like I remember this. I felt okay.
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: And we were talking about basic stuff. Where are you from?
• 30:03
  Speaker 6: Uh, just simple stuff family, which is a little odd
• 30:06
  Speaker 6: while getting massage in your basketball shorts. Right, So I
• 30:10
  Speaker 6: made it, and I made it through that, and I
• 30:12
  Speaker 6: remember being like, all right, I did it. I got through.
• 30:14
  Speaker 6: I'm done. Now I can go.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: Back to Bob, like come to pop up, buddy.
• 30:24
  Speaker 6: So I can go back to the hot top with
• 30:25
  Speaker 6: Bob and.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: I can get ring worm.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: Get ring worm.
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: But like you did it and then went well, so
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: the other ring worms that's a problem. And then now
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: they're like, oh, you guys are going to get a shower,
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: and I just remember that that's when I had a
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: panic attack. I'm like, that's the fear of God? Like
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: what does that mean?
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: Am I?
• 30:44
  Speaker 6: Like what do?
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: I don't even know what to do? Like I have
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: an Irish mother who's supremely Catholic. That's going to be watching,
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: and I'm like, so I go in the shower. I
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: trust that you were you were so nice, but I
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: was so afraid. I didn't know what to do. I
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: just started showering. I remember like washing my armpits and
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: like shampooing my head, Like.
• 31:05
  Speaker 6: Do you need any soap? What kind of soap do
• 31:07
  Speaker 6: you like? Do you like the shampoo first? You're like
• 31:09
  Speaker 6: the soap first, which like, but.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: That's not what makes That's not what makes it on
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: the air. What makes it on is Janie's interview.
• 31:18
  Speaker 6: And then they slow it down, Yeah.
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: Like the super slow motion of me, Like she goes,
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: you know, maybe you could like massage my shoulders. So
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: I basically just took a shower. Yeah, but Trisa, that
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: had it, but like you had to know. I got
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: that this is not going to work with this guy
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: obviously right after that shower.
• 31:34
  Speaker 7: Oh stop, no, no, no, that's not true.
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: Tell him what you said, Jamie to get through the
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: dead rats things. I remember sitting there rubbing her shoulder
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: and she's so beautiful, and all I could think to
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: myself was dead rats, dead rats, dead rats, And it's
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: just like, what the hell.
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: It might be? The new Viager commercial.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: You never know, so good, that's so funny.
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: I remember feeling so uncomfortable, like for you, like doing
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: was that uncomfortable? They had to be uncomfortable for you,
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: but you probably don't remember because you're on a bunch
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: of them.
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: You know, honestly, it's not as uncomfortable. I was just like, Okay,
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: this is just what we're doing. But I I'm I
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: wasn't dealing with a panic disorder. So like you know,
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: from my mental position compared to yours was definitely very
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: very different. And I came from a very Catholic family too,
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: and so that's why background story. I was like, you know,
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: I'm not like the kissing bandit we're talking to right now.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to kiss everybody.
• 32:38
  Speaker 7: Oh who who whatt.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: You? No? Stop?
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: So, so you know, I went into it thinking I
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: don't want to look like I'm, you know, a floozy
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: and a slug like they were calling me in the press.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: I so much I was.
• 33:00
  Speaker 6: I wasn't aware of that that people were saying that.
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, actually I think Chicago was one of the
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: places that did an article. Anyway, anyway, whatever, it's all
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: in the past, it's all good. But That's where my
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: headspace was, you know, like I wanted to make sure
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: that I was very thoughtful about who I was, you know,
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: being more like physical with yeah, and I didn't want
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: to be physical with everybody.
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: All right, Well, you know what, this is a great
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: time to take a quick break. We've got so much
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: more to talk about. So we are going to take
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: a quick break right now, and we'll be back with
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: more almost famous the Ogs our special guests Jamie blythe