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5 New Members Inducted Into the Pro Football Hall of Fame: Who deserved it? · NY's Sports Loud Mouth (VIDEO)

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They're going to have a ton of money to spend.
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Why not putting in one of the top three offensive players in
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Aaron Judge and saying that he can't win the big game, Michael
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for all our shows is go to our website at WWW dot
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worldwidesportsradio.com. I like to get other people's
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takes even when we're not talking about or speaking about
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it on the show. Because to me, I, I like to get
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the information in and it kind of use it as like a memory bank.
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And I don't use AI like everybody else does.
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I don't use computer programs like everybody else does to look
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at analytics or scope it up on Wikipedia, whatever the hell,
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people look it up. I don't do that.
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What I do is I, I scan it in my brain.
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I read a couple of stories, I pop things in my mind from other
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people's content that they give me some of the feedback and I
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embedded into my brain. And then at some points in some
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days, I will use that information to bring it out in
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my own opinion. And that's what's great about
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interacting with people. That's why I like to go to bars.
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That's why I like to, I, I used to when I was a kid, I used to
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hang out at the lunchroom and talk sports and speak sports
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with some of the kids that maybe about lacrosse or soccer stuff.
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I'm, I'm in a sauna at the gym and I'm speaking sports.
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I, I'm not a big European football fan or soccer fan,
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whatever you want to call it, but I watch enough of it.
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And I, I always look forward to the World Cup every four years.
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And I was this past week, I was speaking about who's the best
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soccer player in the country in the world.
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You know, so it's interesting when you hear other people's
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takes, especially people that watch it religiously.
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And then I, I get the information and I use it and I
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embedded into my brain and I kind of get the information and
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I'd be able to use it in a conversation.
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If somebody brings it up, a phone call or some of these,
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some of the fans reach out and they link me up with the direct
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direct messenger, direct connect.
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However way they contact me through e-mail and they ask me
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what I think about football, European football or soccer.
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I give you my take, but a lot of the takes that I give are really
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some of the information that people hand to me in
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conversation. So I do watch European football.
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I, I do watch a lot of MLS games, the Red Bulls, who we
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work with sometimes during the regular season.
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I, I'm a Manchester United fan, so I've been watching them since
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I was a kid. So I, I know a little bit more
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than people think about European football, but I'm most likely
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not as knowledgeable when it comes to that sport than a lot
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of the European fans and English fans that I meet throughout the
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year. So I want to give a shout out to
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the people that I met at the sauna over the week, giving me
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their take about Messi and Ronaldo and Neymar and all the
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guys that you're, we're trying Memphi, all these guys that are
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stars right now still in the soccer world.
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So it's fun. Anyways, we've got speedy Stat
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of the week. The speedy well you may run like
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me, but you hit like stat. Of the week.
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All right, we're going to get into some Hall of Fame in a bit,
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but we're going to start with my stat on a Hall of Famer, the
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senior member of the Hall of Fame, Roger Craig.
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Congratulations, him finally getting in one of the three
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layers to this One of 14 running backs have 90 catches in a
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season. He was the first one to do that,
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doing it in 1985. He's one of three running backs
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that led the NFL in total catches, joining Chuck Foreman
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and Lydell Mitchell, who did in the 70s and 89 receiving yards
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more than Jerry Rice that season.
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Errol and I both believe is the greatest football player of all.
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Time greatest. Yes, in 1985 and 89 more
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receiving yards and almost double the amount of catches. 92
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catches to 49 for Cherry Rice in that season.
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Wow. Errol was the only one alive
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when that happened. In 1985.
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Yes, you're right, but I was 3 so I didn't even know.
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I didn't even know how to take a dump by myself.
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As a matter of fact, my parents taped my diaper together because
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I was ripping it off and smothering my dump all over the
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wall. Jabba, you need to do bigger
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paint. Jabba, you need to go reverse,
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reverse Back to the future, Go back to 1985 and to get Errol
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some dude wipes. Believe it.
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I don't even think there were wipies at that time.
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That's why John has to go back inside.
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Bring your dude wipes. Believe it or not, I'm I'm
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allergic to powder. So my parents used to put powder
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because I get rashes and they didn't realize that the powder
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was the one that was giving me rashes.
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So I would get rashes like in all different areas that you
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don't want to have rashes. And I would try to get, I would
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try to itch, but my parents would take duct tape my diaper
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because I would try to get it off.
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And I used to do like disgusting things with my so I, I couldn't
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itch. Could you imagine the pain I was
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in trying to itch my my ass or in between my legs until they
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realized from my doctor that I'm allergic to powder.
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True story, ladies and times. Makes sense?
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Yeah, At the NFL Honors ceremony last Thursday, the 2026 class of
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Pro Football Hall of Fame was announced.
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The five new members included two first ballot Hall of
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Farmers, Saints quarterback Drew Brees and Cardinals wide
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receiver Larry Fitzgerald. The other three inductees are
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Panthers linebacker Luke Heekly and Patriots and Colts kicker
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Adam Vinatieri and 49ers running back.
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You heard it. The one as we all know it.
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Rodger Craig Brees, who won Super Bowl 44, was a 13 time Pro
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Bowler and is second all time in both passing yards and passing
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touchdowns. Larry Fitzgerald was an 11 time
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Pro Bowler and is ranked second all time behind Jerry Rice and
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receiving yards and six all time in receiving touchdowns.
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Adam Vinatieri got in on the second on his second try and
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became the third kicker to get into the Hall of Fame.
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He is the all time leader in field goals made, points scored,
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consecutive field goals made, and total games played.
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Luke Eakley also got in on his second try despite a short
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career by the Hall of Fame standards.
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He made pro made the Pro Bowl in seven out of the eight NFL,
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seven out of his eight NFL seasons, having over 100 tackles
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in all eight seasons, leading the NFL in total tackles twice
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and was Defensive Player of the Year in 2013.
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Rodger Craig was a senior member who got inducted finishing with
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almost 9000 running rushing yards, but is best known for his
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receiving receiving for the legendary 49ers of the 80s,
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having 5000 receiving yards in his career.
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His receiving total is ninth all time amongst running backs and
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he was the first ever to get 1000 rushing guards and
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receiving guards in a season. So a lot of people were
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questioning the whole Robert Kraft and Bill Belichick.
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Bill Belichick is a first ballot Hall of Famer.
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There's no way I'm putting an owner.
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I there's no way I'm putting an owner as a first ballot Hall of
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Famer, especially Robert Kraft with the background of who he is
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and his past, especially the rubbing tug thing as we all know
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the story behind it. But nevertheless, the NFL has a
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love fest for Robert Kraft. But I was happy that if you're
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not going to put Bill Belichick in, you're not going to put
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Robert Kraft in that. Does He's obviously not a first
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ballot Hall of Famer then? No, Bill Belichick is Robert
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Kraft. He's not.
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No, he's not. But he's he's not because the
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committee is a bunch of idiots. This guy, your greatest coach,
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this guy's the greatest coach of of all time.
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You you want to compare? We talk about facts.
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He's not a first ballot Hall of Famer.
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Not anymore. He should be well.
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And I'm not, I'm not disagreeing, but you can't say
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he's the first ballot hall of. Famer, I'm saying in my book,
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he's a first ballot Hall of Famer and I think 10 out of 10
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people that know anything about football.
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I'm not saying you Jabba, but 10 out of 10 people that are have
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been a part of the NFL and not even been coached by Bill
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Belichick. If you ask Peyton Manning and
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all all the quarterbacks that Bill Belichick has beaten over
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the years, they all will tell you he is a first ballot Hall of
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Famer. There's no question.
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But he's not. But when you look at the list of
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guys that got in this year, all deserving, everyone of Adam
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Venterry is the greatest kicker I've ever seen.
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Most clutch. When we talked about the great
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Patriot teams, three out of the what, 5 Super Bowls?
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He was as important that any player, including Tom Brady,
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especially in the Super Bowl against Carolani, kicked the
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game-winning kick. We've seen how important the
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kicker isn't a Super Bowl this year.
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Yeah, but he was as important as any kicker I can remember in the
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big stage of of a football game in the playoffs.
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This guy was as clutch as you can get.
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I mean, kicking 50 yard field goals, 48 yard field goals in
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the wind. I mean in the snow, this guy
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would had the leg of AI don't know I don't even know what you
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call his leg leg of a diamond. If there if there's such thing
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diamonds are forever. So I guess it's it's as
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important as that. But he is well deserved and, and
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I think he honestly thought that I, I know you're not going to
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put a kicker as a first ballot Hall of Famer, but if there was
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any kicker that I would put as a first ballot Hall of Famer, it
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would be Adam Vinatieri. Drew Brees is a first ballot
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Hall of Famer. The success, first of all, Drew
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Brees maybe is 510, probably around 59.
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When I saw Drew Brees, he's a little bit smaller than me.
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So he's not 5-10, but they say he was.
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But the guy had an unbelievable arm, one of the most accurate
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throwers I've ever seen, one of the the, the the most unique
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personalities the NFL has ever had.
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How many 5000 yard seasons has he had?
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How many 4500 yard seasons he's had?
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Yes, he had Sean Payton, but look who you're throwing to.
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Colston was his number one target for many, many of many
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years over there with the Saints.
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And remember, he started over there in San Diego and then they
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decided to part ways with him and let him go because of AI.
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Think if I'm not mistaken, a knee injury and then he goes,
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Sean Payton signs him and brings him over there and and then we
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all know what Rivers goes over there gets drafted.
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It was a flip flop with Eli Manning and and Rivers was
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successful but never won over there.
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But he jumped ship, went to the Saints and won a Super Bowl and
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was as good of the other two, as good as the other two
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quarterbacks that he's compared to, and that is Tom Brady and
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Peyton Manning. Because all three of these guys
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were really connected their whole careers.
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Aaron Rodgers was at the he was a little bit below them at the
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tail end because he was still younger than them.
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Do I think Aaron Rodgers is better than all three of them in
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the 10 year Spence? Yes, I think Aaron Rodgers as
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good or even better than all of those guys, but nevertheless,
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Drew Brees, it stood for something and I don't know if
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he's a good analyst because we've seen enough of him as an
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analyst to be to say that he's not he's not Tom Brady, he's not
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Tony Robo, but the guy had an unbelievable ability to get the
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ball where he wanted it to go and a thirteen time pro bowler.
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I I was he MVP. Was he ever he?
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Was never an MVP, which I'm surprised.
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Yeah, there was a year, I think in 2011 he did.
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He should have won over Aaron Rodgers, I think.
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Yes, but he was a sensational player and honestly, at some
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points maybe in a five year span, I thought he was the best
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quarterback out of all three of them.
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He really was as good of a quarterback as some of the best
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quarterbacks of of this era and of this time.
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And and probably the but this is the best time when you think
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about quarterbacks, you had Aaron Rodgers, Ben
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Roethlisberger, Eli Manning, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, I
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mean, Phillip Rivers. I'm trying to think of the the
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quarterbacks of of this of that era and how good they were.
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Andrew Luck. There were so many good
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quarterbacks. And to think that Drew Brees
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might have been the second or third best one out of all those
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great quarterbacks and all of them are going to go in as Hall
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of Farmers. It's an amazing feat.
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And I think he's a first ballot. He absolutely.
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And I had AI had a story out of all these guys.
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I put Drew Brees as the number one guy as a first ballot Hall
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of Famer. As far as Laura Fitzgerald,
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Larry Fitzgerald is probably the most likable one out of all
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these guys. He is a great analyst by the
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way, and I think eventually will be one of the better color guys
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on television. But everything about him, his
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ability to catch the ball, not drop the ball, make big plays,
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he never won a Super Bowl, never.
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He's played in a Super Bowl, never won a Super Bowl.
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But it's a shame because of the outstanding career this guy had,
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he has he had multiple coaches, multiple quarterbacks and still
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was as successful as he was in his career is an amazing,
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amazing career and story. First ballot Hall of Famer, slam
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dunk Hall of Famer, honestly probably top three wide receiver
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of all time. I would take him over Randy
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Moss. A lot of people might think I'm
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crazy, but I take him over Randy Moss.
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Randy Moss never won a Super Bowl.
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So if you talk about guys that never won a Super Bowl that are
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first ballot Hall of Farmers, this guy's the best one.
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And it's such a good person by the way.
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And then Adam, we mentioned Adam Vinatieri.
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Then there's Luke Kuechly. A lot of people question Luke
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Kuechly. Is he a second ballot Hall of
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Famer? Luke Kuechly in a in an 8-9 year
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span was the best linebacker in the NFL.
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I remember when he was if a mom is was it boasting you that he
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boasted college, boasted college that he played for?
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I remember he was a second round draft pick, right?
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No. No, he was top ten.
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He was a top ten. Yeah, he was 9th pick.
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It shows you how much I know about Luke Kuechly, but I
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remember when they were talking about him going into the draft
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and he had a great season. He came out of nowhere as it was
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a four-star recruit and he played for Boston College.
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Boston College is not known for their football, they're known
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for their hockey. So that the fact that he chose
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Boston College to play for and then and get his opportunity to
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be a first round talent. But the, the career that he had
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and the trajectory, this was the Carolina Panthers defense for
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like 7 years was one of the top five defenses in the league.
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And I remember when they went to the Super Bowl against the
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Broncos, they were the best defense in the NFL, including
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better than the Broncos were that year.
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And the Broncos were sensational, especially on that
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playoff front with Wolf and, and, and the talent that they
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had. But I will say this, Luke Eakley
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is, I don't know about a second ballot Hall of Fame.
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He's a Hall of Famer. And when you you talk about
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Willis, Patrick Willis getting in in a short career, I speedy,
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we went back and forth. I think Luke Eakley was better
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than Patrick Willis. I do because Patrick Willis
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played on better defenses. I think Luke Eekly was the, he
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was the backbone of the Carolina Panthers defense.
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He was the play caller. He was the captain.
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Patrick Willis was not the play caller on that defense.
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So I think Luke Eekly and first of all, another likable person.
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Anybody that's met the guy, I've never met him, but what I've
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heard through the Grapevine is this guy is as good of a person
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then you'll ever meet. So and he he loves teaching
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kids, loves autographing. He doesn't ask for anything more
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than just a hello and a goodbye. Very, very nice guy.
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And then there's Rodger Craig. I think this is long overdue.
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If you think about those 80s championship San Francisco 49ers
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teams who made the final catch of the game.
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I forget what Super Bowl it was to Joe Montana throwing him the
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ball. It was it was Rodger Craig.
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Rodger Craig as a guy that has always been known as one of the
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elite players, offensive players of the 80s, but he always got
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forgotten because of all those great 49ers teams.
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If you think about Jerry Rice, you think about Joe Montana,
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Steve Young, those defensive players and.
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Very underrated. Go to John Taylor.
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Don't forget about him. No, I'm not, but Rodger Craig
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was the the the focal point early in the 80s and there was
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no Jerry Rice there really. He was the focal point of that
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offense and it was he was one of Joe Montana's favorite players
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to throw to and and give the ball to.
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So I was very surprised. It took him like almost 20
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something years to get into the Hall of Fame, but very well
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deserved, I would say should have been in the Hall of Fame 10
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years ago. But the NFL is so hard on.
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I think this is the hardest out of all sports to get into the
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Hall of Fame. It's like the NFL really
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reaches. And if like Terrell Davis should
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not be in the Hall of Fame. I don't care what anybody says.
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If Rod, if Terrell, if Terrell Davis is in the Hall of Fame,
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Rodger Craig, she definitely should have been a first ballot
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Hall of Fame. Because to me, if you would ask
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me right now in the prime of their careers, who would I want,
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Terrell Davis or Rodger Craig? I'm taking Rodger, Craig.
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So another guy that has sensational career, very well
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deserved and it like Joe Montana said after he was chosen to be
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inducted into the Football Hall of Fame, he says long overdue,
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one of the best and one of the nicest people you'll ever meet.
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So Joe Montana, who comes out and doesn't really give anybody
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compliments says a lot. It says a lot about his his
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personality and who Rodger Craig is.
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Yeah, before I get my take on the on the Hall of Famers, we
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have a Rodger Craig Fang, a big 49ers fan on the on the phone
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right now with us. He also so snowman in the
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morning, Mr. Brian Snow. Evening gents, how are you
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doing? All right, man, how are you?
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Snowman. What's up, buddy?
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Hey, how's it going, E? What's going on, man?
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I know you wanted to call up and talk about your Roger Craig tag
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because I know you're a big 49ers fan and so is Owen, by the
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way. I am Owen.
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They suck. I'm sorry I had to do.
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That listen, Roger Craig's Roger Craig's induction into the Hall
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of Fame is way past overdue because as I've said on my show
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and arrow, you've ridden shotgun with me when you heard me say
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it. If you can honor Marshall Faulk
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with 1000 thousand season with a gold jacket, if you can honor
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Christian McCaffrey, who almost came close to doing in a game
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this year, then why couldn't you honor the original?
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The man who originated the stat, Roger Craig.
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He was there before Jerry Rice was there, as you mentioned, he
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was there before He was there before John Taylor was there.
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And Taylor caught the winning catch in Super Bowl 23.
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So the person they relied on a lot was was was Rodger Craig
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because Wendell Tyler was on his way out.
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In fact, Wendell Tyler retired after Super Bowl 19 because he
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knew the Niner, said Rodger Craig, Tom Rathman was on the
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way mentioned that same year. They draft, they traded up to
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draft Jerry Rice. So you get another one, so you
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get another weapon. And as everyone has said to me
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and I have said in return, Rodger Craig just got lost in
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all the shuffle of that luster of of what was that 40 Niner
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dynasty in the 80s. But if you needed a tough run,
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see the Los Angeles Rams from 1988 or any run in the playoff,
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again, 88 playoffs against the Vikings, you needed a tough run.
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Rodger Craig got you that, that tough run.
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And he just quietly went about his business.
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He did his job. And a set that a lot of people
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forget from Super Bowl 23, Montana threw for 353 yards.
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Yeah, Jerry Rice called 11 for 2:15.
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But Rodger Craig was also 100 yard receiver.
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He caught 9 for 101, including the catch that set up the game
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winner to John Taylor. I remember that Brian and I was
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young and I've seen the video and, and if you ever seen the I
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forget what, what the documentary was, it wasn't the
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Joe Montana. It was the 49ers documentary.
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And it went from it went from the the 70s when they made the
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move to draft Joe Montana in the second round.
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He fell out of the first round and, and they built it around
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the core and Roger Craig was one of those guys, one of those core
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players that when you, you talk about the, the infamous talent
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and, and over the, the, the early, late 70s and 80s type of
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team. So the 49ers had Roger Craig was
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the one of the faces, one of the the focal points of that
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offense. And the Niners were not really
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known as a running team even when their dynasty started in
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1981 because they had Amos Lawrence as the feature running
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back and knowing who no one knew who he was until they got to
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Pontiac, MI The the running back that really sold the West Coast
23:42
offense was Rodger Craig in 1984.
23:45
Look at who they had since then. Ricky Waters, Christian,
23:48
Christian McCaffrey, Frank Gore. It was all about Montana.
23:52
But Bill Walsh designed that offense to run the football
23:56
before they attacked you, before they attacked you through the
23:59
air. And the original Jackknife
24:01
running back was Roger Craig. No question.
24:04
And if you know anything about the West Coast offense, you
24:06
don't have a running game. You don't.
24:07
You can't play a West Coast. Offense, you're sunk.
24:09
Yes. You're sunk.
24:11
And you need a guy that can catch the ball too, because that
24:13
has a lot to do with the West Coast offense, too.
24:16
And, and in that, in that game against the Cowboys in 85 where
24:19
he set and where he where he set the record, no one was aware
24:25
except for the CBS broadcast crew that he was close to that,
24:29
that he was close to that feet, 1000 yards rushing, 1000 yards
24:32
receiving. He did both in the same game.
24:36
He crossed them both in the same game because they ran the ball
24:38
heavily against the Cowboys in the first half.
24:41
And then three receptions into the second-half he crossed 1000
24:44
yard receiving barrier. So he did both in the same game.
24:47
I want to ask you a question. Out of all five of these guys do
24:50
first of all, Bill Belichick, is he a first ballot Hall of Famer
24:53
and why in your opinion? And out of all five of these
24:56
guys, how would you rate them from top to bottom one through
24:59
5? You would have to throw a
25:05
question like this at me. Let me let me start with the
25:07
first. Let me start with the first one,
25:09
Bill Belichick. I say yes because remember Bill,
25:14
Bill Belichick, before he became the architect of the Patriots,
25:17
he was the architect of the New York Giants defense, which held
25:22
many A-Team, including my 49ers under their, their scoring
25:26
average. So yes to, to Bill Belichick.
25:29
As far as these 5 Hall of Farmers, I can't rank them to be
25:32
totally honest and totally fair for the, for the Super some
25:36
reasons. They all, they, they all.
25:39
Come on, you know, this is me you're talking through.
25:40
Here this is. I know, I know.
25:42
I know first of all you Arrow, you and I have like the best
25:47
sports mind and we think along the same lines all the time.
25:50
We. Actually, do we actually do?
25:52
We, we, we think along the same lines all, all the time.
25:56
You can't, you, you can rank these guys, but it'll present a
25:59
hell of a hell of an argument. Like you were talking about a
26:02
moment ago with Drew Brees, who should have been the MVP not
26:06
once, but twice, in my opinion, in the time that he was playing
26:09
with Peyton Manning and Tom Brady.
26:11
And like Roger Craig got swallowed by the 49er dynasty,
26:14
Drew Brees got swallowed by the quarterbacks that were playing
26:16
in that era. Larry Fitz, Larry Fitzgerald.
26:20
What took him so long? Well, you had to wait.
26:23
You had to wait five years. He kept playing.
26:25
You had to wait five years. You never.
26:26
Ate well, Yeah. Well, yeah, it was it.
26:30
Yeah. You got got some guys you as
26:33
Errol as you well know and you've heard me say yes, some
26:37
guys don't need to wait to get in the Hall of Fame.
26:40
OK Right. Even though you have to have you
26:42
have to have the five yard five year.
26:45
Oh good gracious. It's been a busy Monday 5:00 You
26:48
got to wait five years before you get in the hall.
26:50
You got to wait five years before you before you get in the
26:52
hall of. Fame.
26:52
I messed up, Josh. McDaniels.
26:54
To Mike McDonald. So I I know it's been a long
26:58
day. It's been a long day for me too.
27:00
You can tell it's You can tell it's Monday when creators like
27:03
us mess up simple need. I was, I was interviewing me.
27:07
I was interviewing Howard Cross last week and I was watching an
27:10
Ernie Davis documentary and I'm I saw I messed up.
27:15
What was his? So he said Ernie Banks for Carl
27:19
Banks. Carl Banks.
27:20
And yes, I called and he called Ernie Banks a great running
27:23
back. A great running back.
27:24
So I was lost. And then Howard Cross, like he
27:27
kind of fell into it. He was laughing about it.
27:29
It was funny. You know, it was funny.
27:31
I love I love I love Howard Cross.
27:34
I love Howard Cross and the way he the way the way he played
27:37
with with with the with the Giants.
27:40
This more this morning I had I had a big one when we I had AII
27:45
made a big mistake this morning when I when I was doing my show
27:50
and I looked at a name because I was searching for a basketball
27:54
game doing Wednesday and I accidentally said that name
27:57
instead of what I wanted to say and covering the Super Bowl
28:01
because of the because of the same same last name.
28:03
But if you really want to go if you really want to go one
28:10
through 5 on this Hall of Fame class for me, one has got to be
28:15
Drew Brees. OK all.
28:17
Right, you agree. Right, you agree?
28:20
Drew Brees has got Drew Brees has got to be 1. 2 through 5 is
28:27
2 through 5 is a toss up, but I'll say 2 would be 2 would be
28:35
Larry Fitzgerald. OK.
28:37
I agree. Three would be Roger Craig just
28:42
because of the amount of time it took him to get in.
28:49
Venetary is 5 for me. OK.
28:52
Venetary is five, but as a kicker, and it's rare as a
28:56
kicker or a punter that you have that much of an impact.
28:59
And Venetary had it with two teams.
29:01
He had it with the Patriots and he had it with the Colts.
29:03
Hell, he he won the he won the Patriots 2 Super Bowls, right?
29:06
Yeah, he was the only one of the three kickers that I've ever
29:08
gotten in. The other two are Morton
29:09
Anderson. Anderson and you know, and then
29:13
the great thing was to have Morton Anderson knock on Adam
29:17
Beneteri's door. That is that was great.
29:20
That was great for me because I remember Morton Anderson Morton
29:24
Anderson was the first kicker I saw kick a 60 yard field goal
29:27
hit against the Bears in 1990 or 1991.
29:30
I beg your pardon? 91 But no matter where you rank
29:35
them, they all had their they all had their impact because
29:39
the, the comparison that you drew, the pair, the comparison
29:44
that I drew with Larry Fitzgerald, I compared him to
29:46
Jerry Rice and I would take Fitzgerald over Randy Moss in an
29:50
instant because Larry Fitzgerald can do something.
29:54
And I look, I love when watching Randy Moss play.
29:57
Don't get it twisted. But you know, I'm a 49er fan.
30:00
And what do 49ers receivers love to do?
30:03
Block. You get the ball downfield with
30:07
Larry Fitzgerald on it and Larry Fitzgerald sees somebody, he's
30:09
going to knock the heck out of him.
30:11
And then he would pick you up and ask you how your mom?
30:14
'S doing. He'd pick you.
30:15
He'd pick you up and ask you how you.
30:17
He'd pick you up and ask you how you were feeling, but during the
30:20
play, he'd knock the heck out of you.
30:22
Period. That's what I love about
30:26
receivers when when they get downfield and block because John
30:29
Taylor did it for Jerry Rice for years and vice versa.
30:33
And, and the great thing about Larry Fitzgerald is he never
30:36
dropped the ball. I I don't even remember the last
30:37
time he dropped. A great stat too.
30:39
He has more tackles in his career than he does drop.
30:41
Pass. It is unbelievable how how great
30:44
his hands was and he was what was he the number one pick of
30:47
the draft, The. 3rd pick of the draft.
30:49
He was a high draft pick and and I remember he came out of pit, I
30:52
think it was. And he actually got his degree
30:54
after that, yeah. Arizona.
30:56
Yeah, he did. I think it was online Arizona
30:58
State or something like that, but I.
31:02
And it's so sad. It's so sad that Fitzgerald
31:05
ended his career without a Super Bowl win.
31:07
Yeah, but he. Was one of the best playoffs
31:09
receivers. Ever.
31:11
Well, yeah. Well, yeah.
31:13
It's it's sad it ended his he ended his career without a Super
31:16
Bowl win. But when that toe tap catch by
31:19
San Antonio Holmes happened, I had to pick my mouth up up the
31:23
floor as I was leaving a friend's place watching the
31:25
thing. Yeah, because I remember after
31:26
that The Jets signed him and he did absolutely nothing but.
31:29
Brian, think about. The run nothing.
31:30
Think about the run though. Before that, all the really good
31:33
teams they had to go through. Atlanta was great that year.
31:35
That was their first win. Carolina might have been the
31:36
best team in the NFL that year when they behavior.
31:39
Then the Carolina was something. At that time, Carolina was
31:42
something else. Yeah, Carolina.
31:45
Carolina was something else. And they got and and they got
31:47
through Carolina. But yeah, those are those are my
31:50
rankings. I may bring that, I may bring
31:53
that question to to my show tomorrow.
31:56
But it's always it's it's always fun chatting up with you.
32:00
And when you saw the and when you, when I saw the subject you
32:03
were talking about, Roger Craig, I said, oh, I got to have a
32:05
piece of this because I've said for years, as long as Arrow and
32:08
I have been buddies, Pete, you've heard me say it.
32:11
Also, Rodger Craig needs to be in the Hall of Fame period.
32:16
Yeah, well, he's been, he's been out and about in San Francisco
32:21
all week and, and enjoying his time as everybody is celebrating
32:25
his greatness and very well deserved it and celebrating your
32:28
greatness, man, because all the work and all the dedication, all
32:31
the stuff that you've been through, like I always say, I've
32:34
been behind you and I love your show.
32:36
Happy that you've been a, you've been a part of our product and
32:39
keep up the good work and I'll see you.
32:41
Tomorrow. Thank you I'll.
32:42
See you tomorrow. Yeah, 4, four years now I've
32:44
been a part of worldwide sports radio because I jumped back on
32:47
full time after my surgery the follow the following fall after
32:51
I had a chance to to recover because I originally jumped on
32:54
in 2020 while we were in North Carolina.
32:57
Then I got then I got ill and I had to take two years off, but
33:01
four years worth man, this is a partnership that's going to go
33:04
for a long, long, long time. I love you very much.
33:07
So do I love you crew. Thank you all for for welcoming
33:11
me. I really appreciate it and there
33:13
I will talk to you tomorrow, bottom of the second hour.
33:15
I can't wait. Yes.
33:15
Sir, my friend. Thanks for calling, Brian.
33:17
Ryan Snow, ladies and gentlemen, I don't know what I I see the
33:21
snowman over there. I mean fish, you are a pain in
33:25
my ass. You really are.
33:27
And I want to give a shout out to Jabba because Jabba has been
33:29
traveling a lot and just happy that he's back with the crew.
33:33
I know you know, we've been back and forth text messaging, but
33:37
he's been obviously working with his son.
33:40
His son's has a big season coming up and I'm excited for
33:43
his son. I'm excited for him and looking
33:46
forward to all the success of his son in college and maybe
33:50
professionally. So shout out to Jabba
33:52
Chamberlain for, you know, being with us tonight and much more.
33:56
We have a lot more show to go. But speeding your take on the
33:59
Super Bowl, I mean, I'm sorry, on the Hall of Fame.
34:01
Yeah, I have the same top 2 as you.
34:03
I think Drew Brees definitely was #1 I like Brian was saying,
34:06
there's definitely at least two years.
34:07
You could have definitely made the case that he was the MVPI.
34:10
Think 2011, definitely the biggest one.
34:11
When Aaron Rodgers got it and that Saints offense, I was so
34:15
afraid of them that year. I was so happy the 49ers beat
34:17
them in the playoffs that year because the Giants would have
34:20
probably gotten smoked by them in the NFC championship game if
34:22
they had to play that offense. It was the best offense in the
34:24
NFL. And Drew Brees, he was the most
34:26
accurate when it comes to completion percentage season.
34:29
I think he has like 7 seasons over 70% completion percentage.
34:32
Even later in his career too. Was absolutely insane.
34:34
I know Aaron Rodgers individual, I think collectively his whole
34:36
career has a little better but Drew Brees had some of the best
34:39
single seasons in no brainer for his ballot.
34:41
Larry Fitzgerald I agree with you.
34:42
Top three receiver did so many different things even later in
34:46
his career when he because he wasn't like super fast, but when
34:49
he was a great possession receiver even in with Kyler
34:52
Murray there and later on in Bruce Ari and Senor Carson
34:54
Palmer had some really good seasons too and a really big
34:56
influence on those Arizona teams.
34:57
The 2015 Cardinals, I think probably even a better shot than
35:00
the 2008 Cardinals to get into Super Bowl.
35:02
It's just a shame that they just crumbled down the stretch with
35:04
Caroline. I thought they were the better
35:05
team, but Larry Fitzgerald was not the reason why He's
35:07
unbelievable, one of the best, probably the best playoff
35:10
receiver that did not win a ring and his number is just
35:13
unbelievable. Easily first ballot.
35:16
Obviously what you're saying with Keekly, definitely there's
35:17
some questions because the newer committee has to face to these
35:20
types of guys that I think. He's a better player than
35:23
Patrick Willis. They have to face to the types.
35:25
I don't care what anybody says. That retired early because
35:28
there's a lot of them in the league.
35:29
We talked about it with Calvin Johnson when he got in, he got
35:31
in first ballot. Patrick Willis got in first
35:33
ballot. They all retired relatively.
35:35
Calvin Johnson played ten years so.
35:37
Yeah, I'm just saying he's still retired at 31 years old, which
35:40
at the at the time where there's not a lot of players that did it
35:43
compared to a lot of these stars now that are doing it.
35:45
Joe Thomas, another one that retired in 2017.
35:48
He played, he played probably he probably played the same length
35:51
as Calvin Johnson, maybe a little more.
35:52
And he retired early and he was arguably the best tackle this
35:55
generation. And same kind of thing with
35:56
Keekley, like you look at the. Was he inducted into the Hall of
35:59
Fame? Joe Thomas.
36:00
Yeah, he was recently. He was two years ago, I think.
36:02
And he played I think only one more year than Calvin Johnson
36:06
did. And then Keekley probably after
36:08
Willis, probably after Willis has those concussion issues
36:10
towards the end of the career, phased into the best linebacker
36:13
in football until he retired after that in 2019 and played
36:17
with, like you said, a lot of young players on that Panthers
36:19
defense that I did have a lot of good front sevens.
36:21
He. Was the leader of that defense.
36:22
And he was arguably the best zone coverage linebacker for a
36:25
long time on that scheme and in that cover 2 scheme and did very
36:29
well. And like we were talking about
36:31
in the read off, 100 tackles pretty much every year was
36:33
flying and adapted quickly to the NFL level when.
36:36
He finds me a foyer, Lukin. He was one of those sideline,
36:43
the sideline guys back in those days is you have the the one
36:46
linebacker in the middle for the Tampa 2 defense.
36:49
And if it's a run play, he has to run from sideline to sideline
36:52
from the middle of the field. And if you had a guy like that,
36:54
you could run that defense. You don't see a lot of that
36:57
anymore. That Tampa 2 is kind of an
36:59
older, much older school thing, but he was great at it and they
37:02
were able to do a lot of things that other teams can do simply
37:05
because he was on the field. I mean, I think they had like an
37:08
older Julius Peppers came back to them when he was there.
37:11
They had the best linebacker core.
37:13
It was him and. Thomas Davis Thomas Davis, Shaq
37:16
Thompson was the third guy on that on that Super Bowl team.
37:19
They probably, I would say they had the best lineback in core in
37:21
a whole league for. For and they were, they were
37:24
just lights out. And you're right, I remember it
37:26
was like Urlacher. Then it was the the two guys.
37:29
It wasn't just what's his face in the 49ers, Patrick Willis.
37:34
Yeah, it was also Navarro. They also too.
37:35
Yeah. And they also had Bowman, who
37:37
just had these terrible injuries, but he was sick next
37:40
to them. They played that three fours, so
37:41
they really had two different. I'm as rich was pretty solid too
37:43
they. Also had a player they drafted
37:46
who had one great season and then he retired because the.
37:48
Seats. Oh, Borland, Yeah.
37:50
Borland, who everybody thought was going to be a star.
37:51
Yeah, yeah. Correct.
37:53
And but I think like what Peakley did was kind of more
37:56
impressive. I agree with you, Errol.
37:57
I think to play in that more Ray Lewis style middle linebacker
38:01
that he played and as opposed to A3 four guy, that's like kind of
38:05
like, I don't know, Ray Lewis just was constantly flying.
38:07
It's not that they didn't have another linebacker like Bart
38:09
Scott inside with them. It's just one guy's flying.
38:12
The other guy's blitzing. Well, it felt like with the
38:14
49ers the Willis had they had two guys who could do both.
38:18
So it was a little bit different than Keighley doing everything
38:20
and I loved watching him play. I wouldn't, obviously I wouldn't
38:24
rank him as high as, you know, these top two guys, but I think
38:28
I might go Fitzgerald over Brees even, because I think Fitzgerald
38:31
was unbelievable. I, I, he was like the top guy
38:35
coming out of high school, the top guy in college, the top guy,
38:38
the top guy, the top guy. And there was never a time he
38:41
didn't rise up to those expectations.
38:43
It's not surprising. He's going to be a great
38:44
sportscaster, sports writer. His father was a sports writer
38:47
famously. He used to, you know, be there
38:49
was something that was very known when he was still playing,
38:52
how big his dad was involved with his career as far as, you
38:55
know, support writing him and then writing about him.
38:58
I mean Breeze though, he was 6 foot tall maybe, maybe 6.
39:02
He wasn't because I when I met Drew Brees, well, I didn't meet
39:06
him, but we were in the vicinity.
39:07
He was smaller than me and I'm 5/10 and 1/4 as Java would make
39:10
a joke about SO. He was real short and like to be
39:14
able to do what he did. They they didn't think he could.
39:17
That's why he fell to the second round.
39:18
Jabba, you like that, right? Hey, I was, I was going to let
39:22
that one slide. I was going to give you a
39:23
freebie today. Yeah, I'm sure you were.
39:26
He did slide from Purdue. But the one why I think they're
39:30
one A1B honestly, is they both answered the bell.
39:34
They both answered the bell year in, year out in, in, in both of
39:39
those positions. That's tough to say.
39:41
I mean, obviously Brett Favre answered the bell, but.
39:43
With with some help. Well, if Santonio Holmes doesn't
39:47
catch the toe tap touchdown in the end of that Super Bowl,
39:49
Fitzgerald's the MVP of that sort Easily.
39:51
Yeah. Yeah, Fitzgerald, 50 something
39:52
was 40 that had that. Something, yeah.
39:54
He he caught like a skinny post to the house.
39:57
Yeah. And brain by everybody with like
40:00
2 1/2 minutes left to go. I mean, or maybe even less.
40:04
I mean, he should have been this MVP, you know, except that they
40:06
had no defense. That's why it was a fun game to
40:09
watch. You know, it's like it's just he
40:11
was unbelievable. I thought he was.
40:13
I mean, he did. Maybe he didn't stay elite as
40:18
long as you'd like, you know, as compared to like a guy like
40:20
Jerry Rice, who was still like an effective receiver at the end
40:24
of his career. Fitzgerald was not an effective
40:25
receiver at the end of. His well again when you once I
40:28
think the game got a little faster too with a lot of those
40:30
spread schemes and stuff like that he had.
40:31
To just be slowed down, you know?
40:33
Yeah, but the the Bruce Arian scheme, he was still effective
40:37
because he they needed a bigger body possession.
40:39
The guy go along with all those speed guys that they had when
40:41
Carson Palmer was there and they had John Brown and Jerome Brown,
40:45
guys like that, like stretch the field, all those little
40:47
receivers and he had to be the big body guy.
40:49
So he still served a role even though, yeah, maybe his stats
40:52
weren't eye popping towards the end of his career.
40:54
He still was the 708 hundred. Yard, I will say this and and
40:57
the fact that Eli Manning is still not in the Hall of Fame is
40:59
ridiculous. I, I It doesn't make any sense.
41:02
He But you know, we've had this. Argument before though too.
41:05
It's like when it comes to part of the human element of this,
41:10
it's going to happen. Like it's literally like we saw
41:14
with the MVP, the dude that came out that voted for Herbert and
41:17
however, and it changed obviously what what could have
41:20
happened with between staff and Drake May.
41:22
But when there's a human element it, it may be some dude that Eli
41:26
shunned that gets a vote, but that's going to always play a
41:31
part of it when it comes down to this.
41:33
Because listen to these Hall of Fame guys.
41:35
I felt like your your stats don't change.
41:39
So what the hell am I now in the Hall of Famer in Year 5 that I
41:43
wasn't Hall of Famer in year 1? I think my number.
41:46
Didn't change, it's just the people that are around me.
41:49
Yeah, the only stats that changed in the last few years
41:51
has been there's new SAC data, so there might be.
41:53
Some. I also think it's a compact.
41:55
XPD your stats. I also think it's a.
41:59
Comparison to advanced analytics.
42:01
I get that. But it stays the same.
42:05
I I also think you can make. Sure, you get that as a trap.
42:08
I do believe that every single year there's another guy that's
42:12
up and they look at that player to be like Drew Brees.
42:16
If Drew Brees wasn't going to the Hall of Fame, they probably
42:19
pick Eli Manning to be the. OK, so how does how does Philip
42:22
Rivers going back affect this class?
42:26
Immensely Well, next year's class because.
42:28
Because Ben Roethlisberger, he would have.
42:29
Been up for this class. OK, so.
42:31
You know what I'm saying? Because he went back, so now he
42:34
has to wait five years. So Ben, he would have been up
42:36
for this class. So Ben is going to be out next
42:38
year and I think what they're going to do is they're going to
42:41
put Ben and Eli Manning in. They're going to say that Ben is
42:44
a first ballot Hall of Famer because he has a two time MVP
42:48
and as far as Super Bowl MVP, but I think his accomplishments
42:52
in the regular season were a little bit better than Eli's, so
42:56
they're good you. Look at his stats though, you're
42:58
going to see Eli has better overall career stats.
43:00
Giant fan, so we're not a significant.
43:02
Amount nobody's going to take. Then take your your take to be.
43:05
Said he he was, you think the last bunch of years worse than
43:08
Eli was. But you, you would, you would
43:10
say that because you're a giant fan and and I know and you know,
43:13
but. We did this when you were
43:14
talking about rivers, like, I don't know, it might have been a
43:17
year ago. We've compared all three of
43:18
their stats. Roethlisberger was clearly third
43:21
behind the two of those if he didn't count Super Bowls, if he
43:23
counts Super Bowls and Super Bowl MVPS, Eli's got two of
43:26
those also. And I and I would say Eli had
43:29
zero rape charges against him and allegations as well.
43:32
And I think that the voters, you know, the voters, the media
43:36
voters are going to remember that if they're going to punish
43:39
Kraft for his, you know, by the way, did you see girlfriend with
43:42
the orchids orchids of Asia shirt on during the Super Bowl?
43:46
Did you see that that she had a custom made, you know, craft
43:51
massage parlor shirt that she wore during the Super Bowl?
43:55
Obsi. Wouldn't doubt it because
43:56
obviously I believe it was Robert Kraft.
43:59
There's the one that is the one that kept him out of the Hall of
44:01
Fame. You think the two of them
44:03
cancelled each other out? No, I don't.
44:05
I think Robert Kraft didn't go in because you're not putting an
44:07
owner in as a first ballot Hall of Famer.
44:10
I don't care how much success. He's not the one that won those.
44:12
Championships saying they both have to go in at the same time,
44:15
not first ballot. No.
44:17
And if they put Robert Kraft in at the same time as Bell, Bill
44:21
Belichick, the committee is a bunch of idiots.
44:23
Because to me, it was Bill Belichick that built this
44:26
organization. He was the GM, he was the
44:28
mastermind, he was the personality.
44:30
He was the voice of this organization, not Robert Kraft.
44:33
All Robert Kraft did was steal him from the New York Jets in 24
44:36
hours. That's all he did.
44:38
Everything else. And honestly, if you think about
44:41
why Bill Belichick left the New York Jets, cuz he didn't trust
44:44
Woody, Woody Johnson. And now, now you see the back
44:47
end of this whole story. And now how Robert Kraft pretty
44:50
much laid the smacketh on Bill Belichick on why he couldn't
44:54
stay there anymore or he had to walk away from the New England
44:57
Patriots and didn't get that job in with the Atlanta Falcons.
44:59
He was the biggest backstabber of them all.
45:02
I think he should have stayed with Woody Johnson because at
45:04
least Woody Johnson probably wouldn't have done this to him.
45:07
I mean, Robert Kraft thinks that he's the mastermind.
45:09
He thinks he's everything to the New England Patriots and now
45:12
after going to the Super Bowl, if could you imagine if the
45:15
Patriots won the Super Bowl this year?
45:17
How much how you know to me his personality and who he thinks he
45:22
is, I would have taken it to an all time high.
45:24
Oh, look what we did with a new coach and a young quarterback.
45:29
I mean it. This is typical Robert Kraft
45:32
fashion and and he was bragging about it all season, all all
45:35
week, all week long, dancing with Cardi B, showing up to all
45:39
these stupid events. He's an.
45:41
Idiot. His dance moves, he's horrible
45:43
out there. He's.
45:44
Horrible. I mean it's.
45:46
People, people were making comments that it was very
45:48
strange. She's.
45:49
Strange, too. She was dancing with a robot on
45:52
TMZ or whatever she was trying to do, trying to back her thing
45:56
up on a robot. I mean, she's a weirdo, too.
45:59
That whole organization's weird. All right, that's all I'm going
46:03
to say. Look.
46:04
Before we we wrap this one up, there was something that came
46:07
out that because of all of this uproar that they're going to
46:10
look at a way to possibly change the voting.
46:12
And I have a list of things they're looking at to change.
46:15
They haven't done in person voting since COVID.
46:18
So they're talking about going back to in person voting.
46:21
So you can't be like a coward and tough type and hide behind
46:24
your keyboards. They want to separate coaches
46:27
and contributors. So they want a group, coaches
46:31
and contributors differently, which led to snubbing some major
46:35
candidates. They want more transparency.
46:38
So you got to release the votes and the ballots of the public.
46:41
So you're not, you know, just like voting for, I mean,
46:45
somewhat like the MVP vote. Someone voted for Justin.
46:47
Her Why can't the you know, to me, I think the players should
46:51
have a voice. They should be all vote, they
46:53
should all get a chance to vote and it should be equal to 1 big
46:56
vote. I think that's, I mean, they
46:58
don't want that. They're not even asking.
47:00
But that's what I players. Don't want to vote because I'm
47:03
just watching the games. I'm just, I'm just sitting, but
47:05
they played against these coaches and they played against
47:08
these players. So that's my opinion.
47:10
I think that all the players should get a vote of a
47:13
particular and then they see how it rates and and they take that
47:16
guy or they give him that one vote or first ballot votes.
47:19
And, and I think the fans should have a chance to make that
47:21
choice of voting as well. So would you, would you do like
47:24
a like a panel of players and they they get one vote?
47:28
Yes. And then obviously it doesn't
47:30
count as one vote, but you do a percentage and then you see
47:33
whoever wins that percentage. Like the player, like the
47:36
players vote counts for 33%, the fan vote counts for like 20% of
47:42
the the panel vote counts for 50%.
47:44
You know, like whatever you come up with, it's not just this like
47:48
elitist group. And that's one of the things.
47:51
There's two more things are all the changes.
47:53
They may include changing how this committee is made, whether
47:57
it's going to be more sports historians and GM types or if
48:00
it's more a fan type deal. And then they said they're going
48:04
to move the vote closer to the NFL Honors because they didn't
48:08
like all the leaks coming out. Yeah.
48:09
That Belichick didn't make it early.
48:11
That Eli didn't make it early. That's the media.
48:13
A little upset about that. And that's another thing, why do
48:15
the medias get the media people and the writers get an
48:18
opportunity to have a voice on it and not the.
48:20
Players, they're, they're the ones that cover it.
48:23
I know daily. All right.
48:24
And we cover it too. So why can't we have a vote?
48:27
We cover it. We, I think, I think honestly,
48:29
it's going to have to move in that direction too, because
48:31
there there's so many more people that are listening to our
48:36
avenues more so than reading print and the big like, you
48:40
know, the post and all the other stuff.
48:41
Like I think it's moving that direction.
48:44
Will that group of whatever you want to call them ever give that
48:50
right up? I don't.
48:51
I don't think they ever will. I think it's a big problem and
48:56
and again, the NFLI don't like who's running the organization
49:01
and over the last couple of years when you see these
49:03
different rule changes and, and, and, and obviously the referees
49:08
have been a big problem with the NFL.
49:10
It's all sports, but in big games, especially when it comes
49:14
to bets and prop bets and obviously Vegas.
49:17
I'm I'm going to tell you this right now.
49:19
If you didn't see some things that happened in that game last
49:23
night to be a problem and might have hurt obviously the betting
49:27
in the sports betting, then I don't know what I'm not going to
49:29
mention. If you watch the game, you know
49:31
what I'm talking about, especially in the fourth
49:33
quarter. So I I just thought there was a
49:35
lot of things that happened in that game that kind of make you
49:37
shake that. The one thing I could say is the
49:40
refs, we're not calling penalties that much in the game.
49:43
They kind of let the game go so but there.
49:45
Was a punch in the face They let go on the sideline.
49:48
What was it? Job punched Digs.
49:52
Punched Digs in the face. Not that anyone was like feeling
49:55
bad for Digs necessarily, but that guy should have probably
49:59
been injected for that. Let me give you the guys that
50:02
are still that the finalists that didn't make.
50:04
By the way, do you think that ball, do you believe that Cooper
50:07
Cup ball hit the ground? Because I didn't.
50:09
Looks like it did for a second, like a like barely like grazed
50:14
it. I thought it it touched it, but
50:16
it doesn't really matter, you know?
50:18
I'm just saying that it would have been a first down, maybe a
50:20
touchdown and probably ends the game quicker.
50:23
Well, maybe so. Listen, I'm just saying.
50:26
Terrell Suggs is still not Hall of Famer.
50:28
Marshall Yanda is still not a Hall of Famer.
50:33
Reggie Wayne and Tori Holt are not Hall of Famers.
50:37
Reggie. Reggie Wayne.
50:38
Yeah, he's not yet. Wow.
50:41
Well, he also played. He also played with Marvin
50:43
Harrison and Clark. I mean, yeah.
50:45
Sure, but I'm saying like, if we're talking about who's
50:47
getting in and who's getting snubbed, like Marshall Yanda was
50:51
the best guard for a decade. In the league, how many courts
50:55
are in the Hall of Fame? That's that's what I'm saying.
50:56
It's a. Good question.
50:57
Let's see. I don't think a lot.
50:59
Not a lot from this generation right now.
51:00
A lot. A lot of them from the the 80s
51:02
and the 90s will be. I think there's only like 3
51:04
centers. I wish there was a rule that you
51:06
had to induct the offensive lineman of some type every year
51:10
because I feel like they just don't because nobody knows who
51:13
they are. They don't watch lineman play.
51:15
Why are you even asking some of these receiver types to tell to
51:20
tell us who the best lineman are?
51:21
They've never practiced A lineman technique in their
51:24
entire lives. Well, you know, they they're not
51:26
past setting, you know what I mean?
51:29
Like when are they ever going to pass set as receivers?
51:31
They don't know what to what they're looking at.
51:33
They didn't have to go up against these guys.
51:35
They didn't have to face Dexter Lawrence, you know, like that.
51:39
There should be a guy that gets in every year.
51:41
There should be alignment from both sides of the ball.
51:43
It should just be mandatory. One guy from the line, one guy
51:47
from the second level and one guy from the third level.
51:50
Whether that means one guy in the backfield on offense and 1
51:53
receiver and and then what, you know what have you, I don't
51:58
know. I just feel it.
51:59
To me, it just feels like they're doing it wrong and I
52:01
hope they figure it out. But, you know, Goodell runs it,
52:03
so it's probably not going to go how anybody wants it, so.
52:08
Very interesting. I mean, if you're, if you're a
52:11
football fan and you want to be, you want to have the opportunity
52:15
to vote, I think that the NFL should give the fans a vote that
52:19
the fans should be eligible to vote for whoever they want.
52:23
And then they have a percentage, they get 20% of the vote.
52:25
And, and I think it makes a lot of sense.
52:27
It'll open up an opportunity for fans to be in tuned and and
52:31
younger, the younger, the younger generation of fans that
52:34
are into fantasy and sports and all that other stuff.
52:37
They'll get an opportunity to actually put their their take
52:40
out and and give their opinion out in the future of the future
52:44
for Hall of Fame's Hall of Famer.
52:46
So I think that makes more sense.
52:48
But that's just my opinion. Anyways, my golf clap of the
52:51
week. This deserves a golf clap.
52:55
No doubt. Golf clap.
52:56
Golf clap. Well, ladies and gentlemen, I
53:00
don't know if this is a golf clap, but it's definitely
53:03
somebody needs to be bitch smacked because, and he probably
53:06
will when he goes to jail. Terrible, terrible story that
53:10
came out during the Super Bowl week.
53:15
Darren Lee is up for a homicide. And I, I, I, I kind of shrug my
53:21
shoulders because it's typical New York Jet fashion where
53:24
you're these guys or even New York Fashion that these guys are
53:28
in the tabloids or something has gone wrong with these guys after
53:32
they leave the sport of football.
53:34
Well, Lee, according to police reports, was present at the time
53:41
and told the law enforce law enforcement that the woman had
53:45
been unconscious on the couch, possibly as a result for falling
53:50
in the shower. Could you believe this man had
53:53
the audacity to say that his girlfriend fell in the shower
53:57
and he picked her up and he put her on the couch and then called
53:59
the police. As you know, as the police tried
54:02
to revive her and give her CPR and and announced her to be
54:05
dead, they realized that she had bruises all over her body,
54:08
including her face and realized it was a homicide.
54:12
And Darren, Darren Lee was arrested and now is going to be
54:17
up for murder, first degree murder.
54:19
It's a horrible, horrible story. And and again, I, I'm not saying
54:24
it's a Jets organization. I'm not blaming The Jets for
54:26
somebody trying to murder somebody.
54:28
But it just to me, when you look at organizations, do you ever
54:32
see an organization like, and I'm just saying I like the big
54:36
organizations and I'm not, I even the 49ers, let's say,
54:40
because I've seen the Giants, we've seen domestic violence
54:42
with the Giants, with Brown. We've seen Pittsburgh, the
54:46
Pittsburgh Steelers with Antonio Brown, as we all know that
54:49
story. And Le'veon Bell, So and The
54:52
Jets, they're also an organization.
54:54
The Bengals too, Pac-Man Jones with all his abuse and and Vince
55:00
Young. We all know the Vince Young
55:02
story with the strip bars and. Ray Rice.
55:05
Ray Rice, another one, I mean at the Dallas, the Dallas Cowboys.
55:09
How many Dallas Cowboys have been with domestic violence?
55:12
I mean the Hardy. Situation with the Raiders.
55:14
Yeah, I, I mean, it just, it keeps on going and going.
55:17
Why isn't the NFL stepping in now?
55:20
A lot of these players down the NFL after they leave the sport
55:23
of And I was talking, by the way, shout out to Quinton
55:25
Coppols. I was speaking to him today and
55:28
had a great conversation with him and I, I brought up Darren
55:32
Lee in the situation because he never played with Darren Lee,
55:35
but it was that he was back. He was there after Darren Lee,
55:39
but he said he kind of knew the guy.
55:40
He said that the problem here with the NFL and the thought of
55:44
the way the NFL is moving is they've always brushed things
55:48
under the rug. They they don't take care of the
55:50
players after they leave the sport and they find ways to not
55:53
help players with the the mental issues that they have now.
55:58
Darren Lee had mental issues when he was in the NFL.
56:01
As a matter of fact, if I'm not mistaken, I think he was
56:04
bipolar. The Jets obviously discovered
56:07
that later in his career. He was he was a Jet for a very
56:10
short time. He went to Kansas City, did win
56:12
a Super Bowl. He was on that roster when they
56:14
won the Super Bowl, but he really didn't play a big part of
56:16
their fifth line. Yeah.
56:17
So I this is a horrible story. I feel bad for the the family of
56:23
the victim. And you know, it just tells me
56:26
one thing that the NFL is not helping out these players after
56:30
they leave the sport. Now, again, I'm not blaming the
56:32
NFL on this. I'm not this is not the NF LS
56:35
fault that this guy went on a rampage and killed his
56:37
girlfriend. It just I think that if the NFL
56:41
was more connected to the players after they left the
56:43
sport, maybe these things wouldn't be happening as much.
56:47
And it's been going on not only with the players in the sport,
56:49
but after they leave the sport with CTE.
56:52
And, and some of the dynamic things are, and I say dynamic
56:55
things because the, the stories that you're hearing after the
56:59
fact, what they're doing and murdering people and killing
57:02
themselves and killing their families, It's just a horrible,
57:05
horrible thing. So I wouldn't call this my Golf
57:07
Club, but it is definitely something I, I think this man
57:11
should be bitch smacked and he might get bitch smacked when he
57:13
gets sentenced for life in prison, imprisonment.
57:17
A horrible story, but hopefully the victim's family, you know,
57:23
is a, you know, is a part of the the whole interrogation and all
57:27
the the crap that is going to be coming for Darren Lee.
57:31
So that is my golf clap of the day.
57:33
So I'll give it a golf clap. I I don't want to give it a golf
57:35
clap because it makes me makes me sick to my stomach.
57:38
But typical New York Jets fashion.
57:41
It's a horrible story. Anyways, that's it for our show.
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I mean, obviously you're my partner.
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Do you have anything to say before we go?
59:11
No, it's just been it's been a fun run.
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This is going to be a great year.
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Obviously, hang with me. It's going to be touch and go
59:18
with Carter and all the stuff, but love being a part of it.
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Love having you guys on. You guys haven't met me yet, but
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my dumb ass is right here. So glad to have you.
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But no, it's it's been fun. I've learned a lot.
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I pay attention to different things more and what I pay
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We just kind of go, we kind of have a, an, an outline of what's
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It's going to be a fun year, that's all I can say.
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Announce the stuff, Oklahoma. There you go.
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All right, ex Giants Super Bowl champion linebacker Gary Reasons
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will be joining us on 845. Gary Reasons SO is very well
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known own it with the with with I'm sorry with the giants
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organization and some of the things that they that he's done
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in the past. One of the better what?
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What do they what do they say? Goal line people, right?
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Goal line stand people. One of the best plays of all
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time on the goal line. Yeah.
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So, well, I'm, I'm interested to interview him.
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I've never interviewed interviewed him before.
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And I want to thank Nathan for getting him.
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