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Dodgers sign Sasaki, Scott · The 3-0 Take

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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Three O Take, where we talk
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all things Major League Baseball.
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Here's Kyle Corwin and Nate Reyes.
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It all starts right now. Welcome back to the Three O Take
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presented by Sea Kick. This is episode 504.
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I'll be your host Kyle Cordon. I'm here with my Co host Nate
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Reyes. Nate, Alex Bregman, you're a
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Dodger. Pete Alonso, you're a Dodger.
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Jack Flaherty, you're a Dodger. They're all Dodgers.
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Who's not a Dodger at this point?
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You mentioned it before we hopped on.
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I don't I I'm I'm struggling to to sit by I'm struggling to sit
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by the, you know, stand, stand on like the, you know, if your
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team isn't doing this, you're just jealous kind of thing like
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it it is. This is tough, man.
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Like this. This is not like anything we've
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seen. And I know that everyone likes
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to go back to like the dynasty Yankee years and just be like,
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well, the Yankees, the Yankees did it.
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They would get every free agent they wanted.
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And it's like, I don't, I don't think it was like this.
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This is different, man. This is different.
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They are. The Dodgers are quite literally
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assembling as as best as they can do within the limits that
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they have, which at this point are pretty much none.
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But I mean, aside from going in and hand selecting each team's
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best player that's already under contract, a la you know, a Bobby
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Witt or or something like that, they are assembling one of the
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greatest collections of on field talent that the game has ever
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seen. And again, they're doing it
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within their parameters, within their quote UN quote limits,
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which again are essentially nothing, whether it be
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monetarily or or otherwise. They are they They have a vision
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and there is not a single thing in their way stopping them from
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accomplishing this vision. Look, I I can fully understand
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and support the idea of of doing things well in each department.
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They obviously scout well, they develop well, they do those
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things really well. They the analytics department
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excellent. I it's, it's a perfect storm
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man. And it's and it's an
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organization that like it focuses on making sure that
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there are no weaknesses and the idea of it.
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Yeah, like I can, I can understand.
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But I mean, and we're going to talk numbers obviously, and
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we're going to talk these two deals, but you know this Jeff
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Passan tweeted a couple hours ago.
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When Tanner Scott deal is made official, the Dodgers luxury tax
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payroll for 2025 will exceed $375 million.
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That is 70 million more than the next highest team, which is the
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Phillies. The Yankees are the only other
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team with the CBT payroll projected to be over 300.
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And I think they're staying at like 3O13O2.
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It's tough, man. Like there's other tweets you
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can go by, like there's other things you can look at the I
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think I saw one that the entire AL Central combined is 544, 150
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million more and you have the entire central.
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Etalk Tweets there's a tweet in particular that I came across
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today that I I, I want to dissect here with you get your
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thoughts on it and those in there who are in the chat
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following along, please feel free to chime in.
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Ryan Cohen 24 on Twitter For those saying that what they're
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able to do, they, as in the Dodgers are able to do is not
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bad for baseball. For those saying who what
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they're able to do is not bad for baseball and in parentheses
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says not taking a side, genuinely asking a question.
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Is there a point when it is bad for baseball?
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And what is that point if not now?
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And I, we talked to you or we were talking before we hopped on
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and I said, they're, we're at the point now where a lot of the
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takes I've had up until this point have turned on their head
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like I'm I, I, you can't, you just can't defend this anymore.
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And I'm not you're, you're, if you're listening, you're
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probably going well, it's because you're not a fan of the
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Dodgers. So of course you're going to be
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upset. It's not I, that is one thing
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that I will stand by and it's that I'm not upset at the
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Dodgers. I, I'm not, I'm not frustrated
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with the Dodgers. I'm not angry at the Dodgers.
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I don't hate the Dodgers for what they're doing.
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They're doing that. What they are doing is fully
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legal within the scope of Major League Baseball.
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You may not like the way they're going about it.
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You may not like the, the, the, the names that they're
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accumulating. You, you may not like the way in
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which they're handling the contracts of these players that
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they're accumulating, but it's fully legal.
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They're allowed to do it. So I'm not going to be upset at
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the Dodgers for it because I, I've, I've tweeted out before,
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I've said it on this podcast. What do you expect them to do?
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Just sit back and do nothing? No, they're going to make their
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team better. And for, for that, every team of
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every other or every fan of every other team should be
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envious because you would you, you could only hope and wish
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that your team would behave in such a manner as the Dodgers.
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But chances are your team's not because the Dodgers are the only
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team doing this. But I think my frustration now
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is shifting towards these players where it's like, and and
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I was trying to go back and find whether or not I said it after
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the Snell signing, because I I thought I remember saying after
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the Snell signing, something to the effect of, you know, this is
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kind of it for me, Like anybody that signs with the Dodgers from
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this point forward, I'm like, I'm out.
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I'm I'm out because you, you very clearly.
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And even I mean, let's not kid ourselves.
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Even Snell knew what he was getting into, But I'm like, I
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got to draw the line somewhere. So from here, from pretty much
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this point forward, if you sign with the Dodgers, you know
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exactly what you're getting into.
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And I'm not going to sit here and say that I wouldn't do the
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same thing. But it's like how many more star
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talents like superstar level players are going to choose to
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sign with this absolute juggernaut, making it almost
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inconceivable that such a product would be able to be
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manifested the way it is. Like this is just insane.
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It's it's almost impossible to wrap your head around.
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Yeah, it gives me like the KD to Golden State vibes, you know
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what I mean? Where like it it it almost feels
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illegitimate. And if somebody starts to go to,
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you know, winning those, winning multiple trophies and and I
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don't know, last year was last year, I think it was, it's
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probably going to get roped into whatever they do during this
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window. But I don't, I don't know, like.
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Can we talk about this comment? The Chad said Somebody called
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the wambulance. I don't see you all protesting
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the trash shows. Johnny, welcome, Welcome to the
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Three O Tape 'cause you're you're clearly new here.
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Yeah, we took our fair share of punches.
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Towards them, it's very evident who's who's new here.
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But we're not talking about individual trophies of a, you
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know, an MVP being stolen. Like that's, that's not what
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it's, it's getting to. It's it's we're talking in a
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more general scale of like, like you said, like where where do we
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draw the line? When is it bad for baseball?
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When is it ridiculous? I mean, they could run out an 8
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man rotation with no problem with no problem.
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And you're talking about very competitive solid teams around
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the league who who are maybe struggling with a fifth spot.
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And I don't know where my my specific issue is and I I can't,
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it does feel a little whambulancy, I'm not going to
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lie, Like it does, like I can't, I can't.
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But it I think you and I are on the same page, though our
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frustration doesn't lie with the way in which they're handling
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their personnel, the way that they're handling their
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offseason. And for the people saying you
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got to sub cry, there's a guy, somebody in the chat.
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Adam, I see you. You got to stop crying about the
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Dodgers. Please let me go back in, in my
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in my feed here and share some thoughts that I've tweeted out
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over the last few months. Just shy of the Dodgers winning
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the World Series. I think this was like game three
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or four of the World Series. I said, if and when the Dodgers
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win the World Series, don't be upset at the Dodgers for
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spending money. Be upset at your owners for not.
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Later the next month, I said, did people think the Dodgers
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were going to spend $0.00 this offseason?
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And then I went on to say, yeah, just yesterday I said last year
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the Dodgers disproved the theory that it's not always the best
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team on paper that wins the World Series.
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They were the best team. They won the World Series, and
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they just got even better. And this was after signing
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Sasaki. And I've said countless times
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before, I, I, I want the Dodgers to, I like, I, I think I tweeted
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out like a month or two ago, I said, I want, I, at this point,
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I want the Dodgers to go out and sign everybody just to show the
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rest of the league what it's like to actually invest in your
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product and make your product better.
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Yeah. So the whole like, stop crying
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about the Dodgers. I'm not crying about the
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Dodgers. I've, I've made that abundantly
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clear. I don't know how many other ways
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I can express that. I'm not upset at the Dodgers for
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the way that they're handling their franchise.
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I'm envious of it, but it's again, my frustration lies with
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these players now where it's like Sasaki, like I, I don't
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know how you feel. I'm I, I could not be more out
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on Sasaki as a player. Don't know the guy from Adam but
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I'm like this whole this this just felt like a game.
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This just felt like a ruse. Like I felt like the the all of
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baseball got punked even though we weirdly knew he was going to
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end up in Lai. Just feel like the whole song
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and dance was far more grand than it needed to be.
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Where it's like I. Agree.
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It was rumored that he possibly might want a smaller market,
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that he he wanted to to go elsewhere and and not be center
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stage. He didn't want to be center of
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attention. It's like, OK, well, naturally
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he ends up in LA. That makes sense.
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I don't know, but I'm I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm done.
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I, I will say like, you know, if we, if we go back to the era of,
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of having the Yankees as the villain of baseball and everyone
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hating it and, and hating them, like one could argue like it's
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that part of it is good for baseball.
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And this, this is naturally going to happen with the
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Dodgers. Everyone's going to hate the
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Dodgers. Can I ask you as a Yankees guy,
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being a fan of that franchise, was there at, at like did you
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were you ever at a point as a fan growing up where you thought
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to yourself, like you looked around at at the team and you're
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like, no, this kind of does seem a little bit unfair, like how
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good we are. Like, did you ever feel like
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that was the case? I mean, sure, the Yankees were
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good there for a good stretch, but like, did you ever look
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around and go this almost feels illegal?
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I I think the only time where I kind of felt that way was O 9:00
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just because of like the addition of to share ACCAJ
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Burnett. It, it did feel a little bit
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that way. But like when you go back to the
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late 90s in the early 2000s, like a lot of that was
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homegrown. Like when you when you talk
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about the core 4, that's that was homegrown stuff and they all
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you know, that was development. And you look at like the
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addition of some names, you know, Rodger Clemens being added
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to that mix, you know, with Tina Martinez.
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But like, even then, like they traded for Paul O'Neill was a
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part of that first part of that run and they traded for him when
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the Reds no one knew who he was. Like they weren't trading for
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multiple MVPS during their peak years.
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You know, I I think when you look at like the Patriots, you
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know, mane in the chat pulling up the Patriots as an example in
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the 90s, Bulls, like, you know, Tom Brady, Teddy Brewski,
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Gronkowski, you know, big names with those organizations.
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Those are home grown guys. And you weren't talking about a
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payroll that hovered that far over everything.
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Did the Yankees lead the league in payroll multiple years during
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those years? Yeah, they did.
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But again, when you're talking about, you know, 9698992000,
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that core was still, you know, minuscule dollar amounts towards
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your main guys, Ohtani, Freddy, Mookie, Snell, Yamamoto, this
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these, none of these guys are home grown.
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None of these guys, you know, are coming up through your
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organization. So I don't know, like I I don't
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know if there was ever a point where I felt like, all right,
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this is a video game at this point.
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O 9 was kind of close, but you're talking about other guys
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being towards the end of their career, other guys that just,
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you know, like the Robinson Cano was in his prime to Shara, you
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know, reaching the end of his career, Jeter reaching the end
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of his career. These are all back end things
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where it's like right now you're talking about half of an All
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Star lineup. I don't know man, it is what it
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is. They're going to have a target
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on their back the entire year. Every team is going to give them
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their best every game. And is that part good for
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baseball? Absolutely.
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I absolutely agree. But when you are the sole
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example of rules needing to go into effect and no other team is
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doing like I and you're going so far to the other other end of
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the spectrum, I don't know, I'm, I'm just, I'm struggling to wrap
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my mind around it. And, you know, you can bet your
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ass we're going to see a lot of negotiation going on with the
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next CBA to figure out, you know, this deferment money and
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to figure out how to kind of close some of those loopholes.
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Well, you talk about the target on the back for the Dodgers in
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2025 this coming season. What are what are we, I mean,
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what are we looking at in terms of win total here?
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Like it is it or really not just win total just expectation for
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the 2025 Dodgers in general? Like are we, are we setting a
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minimum for number of wins that this team has to, has to tally
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this year for it to be a success?
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Because it like it gets to like even last year with the a World
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Series winning team. You look at the team last year
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and you're like, you know, like they, they have, they've got a,
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they've got a, a wealth of talent here and they're most
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likely going to win the World Series.
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But if they don't, well, that's just baseball.
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But we're at a point now with this Dodgers team a year, not
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not even a full calendar year later after winning the World
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Series, where you're going, they're 234 steps ahead of where
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they were at the end of last season.
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So at what point does it do we look at this team and go, they,
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they have to win the World Series And, and we, we hear
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World Series or bust thrown a lot, thrown around a lot with,
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with other teams. But truly, they, you cannot
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acquire this much talent, like not just talent, superstar
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talent and not win the World Series, not go out and set the,
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the, the, the regular season win total, which I believe was 116
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from the O1 Mariners. You, you can't not go out and,
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and and surpass that. You can't not go out and
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steamroll your way through the postseason in route to winning a
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repeat World Series title. You just can't because anything
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less than that has to be deemed a failure because this team is
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too good not to. Yeah, man, I don't know.
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Like, I think there's probably going to be a point where it's
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like a little bit of a coasting at some point during the regular
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season to where you don't have to have like you don't have to
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have anyone in this rotation throwing 190 innings plus.
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You don't have to have that. I think the goal and now that
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you have 3 Japanese starters in your rotation who are very
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comfortable having a six man rotation, that's definitely
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going to happen. That's absolutely going to
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happen. You don't have to push the
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envelope for a Freddie Freeman maybe not being fully healthy or
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you know, a Mookie Betts, you know, having a tweaked shoulder,
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like whatever it may be. You don't have to push the
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envelope. Put them on the IO like it's
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fine. Glass now doesn't feel is back,
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doesn't feel great. Ride that out like whatever next
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man up. The depth is incredible and when
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you talk about any of that homegrown talent that they have,
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none of those guys are going to have much of an opportunity.
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None of those guys are going to get too many ABS or too many,
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you know, innings. So I don't know, man, I mean
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like it's it's definitely 100 win season.
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That's that has to be and I'm not going to sit here and say,
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you know, if they only win 99, but then they take the trophy.
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Is that a failed season? Of course not.
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I don't know. It's it's weird, like every
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every team has the mentality. At least I hope every team the
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mentality is, you know, World Series are bust, but this is
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this is now. I mean, where it's your 2025, if
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you don't have three rings before 20-30, none of this was
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worth it. I don't I don't know.
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I don't know how to I don't know how to chalk it up.
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I don't know how to express any of this.
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This is such uncharted territories that like there's
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such thing as like, well, you still got to play the game.
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To what extent man, Like to what extent when you when you want to
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go play Monopoly and and your opponents already have a lot
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more properties and money than you like, I don't know.
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That's a great no, that's a great analogy.
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The rest of major and this isn't me like again, I, I don't, I
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don't want to go back and read all my tweets again to prove
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that I'm not upset at the Dodgers.
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But this is just the, the, the reality of it.
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The 2025 season is one team showing up to the Monopoly board
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with $1000 cash. Three sets of monopoly or
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property monopolies and hotels and then the 29 other players
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are showing up to the board with nothing that I mean, that's
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comparatively speaking, That's, that's the reality.
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Of it and I and I, I would like to hear why because you've made
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the argument that this is going to be better for baseball.
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This is good for baseball having, having other owners, you
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know, start writing checks to keep up.
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I think it's crossed over to the point where like owners are
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going to be like, we're not, we can't, and then we're done
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writing checks because we might as well try to save money and
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and. Make it to the.
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Championship here, yeah, exactly.
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Like, what's the point? What's the point for Oh my gosh,
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I mean, you could run through half the league.
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You could, you could run through pretty much both leagues in the
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central can run through at least 15 teams that are just going to
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be like, why? Like what?
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What are we going to do? And OK, so in the chat, I mean,
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I'm seeing they should have got in reference to the monopoly
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analogy, they should have gotten more before they showed up to
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the board. And I absolutely agree with that
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sentiment. And that's what I've been saying
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to your point of, of talking about like, well, this should
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this should inspire, motivate owners around the league to pony
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up. But we're getting to the point
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now and hand up. Maybe I was just naive.
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I didn't think we'd get to the point so far into this thing
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where even if you had teams offering well over the amounts
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that the Dodgers. Think about pay cuts.
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Well, over years that the Dodgers were offering you can't
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you, there's nothing that you can do The, the the Dodgers have
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established themselves as such a destination at this point.
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And you, you take, you take Yamamoto out, you take Snell
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out. If, if you've got Los Angeles, I
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mean, certainly not to make light of it, but you, you know,
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obviously pre for wildfire situation, you, you take, you
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take Otani and the city of Los Angeles.
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And that's really all you need to sell your product.
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Because the reality of it is, is the Dodgers have absolutely
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cornered the Japanese market. You're if there, if there is a
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Japanese player worth anything, you are not getting him unless
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you were the Los Angeles Dodgers.
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And, and I, I understand it. I understand why it, if you're a
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guy like Sasaki, why, why wouldn't you want to come play
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with Yamamoto and Otani again? I'm still sort of out on on
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Sasaki at this point because I feel like he really could have,
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he really could have shaken things up had he gone to San
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Diego and and still had a great opportunity to succeed, a great
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opportunity to to develop as a pitcher, I believe.
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But I mean, there, there's nothing that these that these
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teams can do. And it's it's sort of a
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demoralizing blow when when this whole time I've been saying,
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well, again, these these owners should hopefully be you know,
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it, they should serve as a kick in the gut a little bit to them
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to be like, all right, we need to step up.
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We're but it like we're talking about.
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I think we're at a point now where.
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They're going to throw. This out, it's just it's why
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bother? Why bother?
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Yep. Yeah, if you're the Rockies, why
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bother? You know what I mean?
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And but that was that. But that's what I'm saying.
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That was before this offseason. You're you're going well, of
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course the Dodgers aren't really going to care.
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But now you, I, I, I, I'm hoping that this isn't coming across as
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like an overreaction, but it, we're dangerously close to
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getting to a point where even the, the, the teams that rival
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the Dodgers in terms of, of financial force and star power,
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I think even those teams are going to be like they're, it's,
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it's the, the, it's the, the crap at the bottom, you know,
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like the, the A's, the Rockies, the Marlins, like no, no offense
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to those teams. And then you've got the next
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year where it's like, OK, you look around, there's the big
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market. Teams.
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Yeah, the, the whole, the, the mids and then you got the upper,
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the, the upper market teams. And then beyond that it's the
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Dodgers. And I think the, the tier below
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the Dodgers like these, these big market teams like the
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Yankees teams like that. I, I genuinely think we're at a
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point where they're going to look around and go not even we
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can keep up. And that's that's kind of a wild
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place to be at in a sport. Well, here's here's where I
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could say that it it could be good for baseball in a way that
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if you're not in contention, if you're not even being considered
24:57
to be able to sign some of these names, turn all your money and,
25:04
and focus on scouting and development develop.
25:07
We, we've seen this new age baseball that's created laziness
25:13
and and a lack of fundamentals. We watched it with my team in
25:18
the World Series where you know you're seeing professional level
25:22
players that the grandest stage struggle with fundamental stuff
25:27
because maybe it's not being taught in their organization at
25:30
the younger level. So focus on that, develop your
25:34
young core and that I think that's the only way is that you
25:37
know, you're going to have a young controllable team that is
25:42
just really good at baseball. That's the only thing you can
25:46
do. Because if you're an
25:47
organization that doesn't have that market to be able to spend
25:51
on free agents, that's what you have to do.
25:54
That's what you got to and you got to hold on to them.
25:57
You can't trade them. So we can talk about all the
25:59
names that have become, you know, that that time in Oakland
26:03
Athletic, But if they hang on to them in a Matt Olson, in a Matt
26:07
Chapman or those types of guys are still Athletics, it's a
26:12
different thing. It's a different conversation,
26:14
so develop your guys and do something with that youth.
26:18
Let them come up, let them play, get younger, get more athletic,
26:23
but be good at everything that you can be at.
26:28
That's the only way that I can think of competing because if
26:32
otherwise, you know, you can't focus on trying to spend what
26:36
they spend because you're not going to be able to.
26:38
All right in the chat I'm seeing how many rings does LA one maybe
26:42
wait to judge JDS third in the chat on YouTube.
26:45
Appreciate you for the comment. But and that's a valid point.
26:52
But that goes back to to what I was talking about earlier when I
26:54
referenced my tweet of saying last year, the Dodgers disproved
26:57
that theory. Because if you recall, and I
26:59
don't remember if you, if you sort of were, were on track with
27:02
me with this thought. But I was basically saying the
27:05
Dodgers are not going to as good as they are in 2024, as good as
27:10
they are, they're not going to have a cakewalk to the World
27:12
Series. And if you remember, they got
27:15
they were battered with injuries.
27:16
They had, they had some, some moments where they slipped and,
27:19
and and had to climb the way back to the mountaintop, if you
27:22
will. They got everything they got
27:24
from San Diego, man, that San Diego gave them everything they
27:27
had. Exactly.
27:29
And and you know, and the reason those things all happen is
27:32
because that's baseball. But what did they do?
27:35
They went and disproved the theory that the best team up
27:37
because they were on paper, the best team in baseball.
27:40
And they went out and did it. And I'm not saying that's the
27:42
first time it's ever happened, but in recent memory, you you
27:45
look at the Dodgers and go, well, I mean, pretty easy to
27:49
understand why they're favorited on paper because you look at the
27:52
rotation, you look at the lineup and beyond that, you look at the
27:54
depth that they have. So of course, so they did what
27:58
they did last year. They went out this offseason and
28:01
got, I won't say infinitely better, but like like I said
28:07
earlier, 234 increments better showing no signs of, of, of
28:12
slowing down, of stepping back, of only moving forward in the
28:15
direction full steam ahead. So it, it begs the question,
28:20
what's what's stopping them from doing exactly what they did this
28:24
last year because they're even better this year.
28:26
I, I, I don't know the answer to that question.
28:28
And well, I, I do know the answer to the question.
28:32
As of right now, it's nothing, nothing can, is going to stop
28:35
them from doing that. It's just a matter of if, if
28:38
things pan out the same way they did last year, were they able to
28:40
overcome any injuries they have, if they're able to utilize their
28:43
depth well like they did last year, but of.
28:46
Course they will. If you have if you have these
28:50
guys both in the rotation and in your lineup that are locked down
28:53
for years to come, outside of some of these guys aging and and
28:58
getting to a later stage in their career, this window is for
29:02
them is wide open for for years to come.
29:05
So sure, they haven't won the titles yet, but they're in a
29:09
much better position than 29 of the teams in the league.
29:12
We know that much. Yeah, it's definitely a big head
29:15
start, man. It's like I said, I I think
29:20
three more, three more trophies before the end of the Otani.
29:28
I'm not going to say contract because the deferment, but the
29:30
end of the of the playing days of Otani, I would look back and
29:38
say that it was a success. Four rings for Otani era in LA.
29:50
Yeah, I don't know, man. I think it's, it's, it's going
29:56
to bring up a lot of interesting conversations and it's going to
29:58
change how we look at, you know, payroll and everything like that
30:02
forever. So only thing I can hope for is
30:05
that other teams get better with their development and make sure
30:12
that they're they're buttoned up in every other category and
30:19
windows have to hit just right. For some of those lower market
30:23
teams, they have to hit just right.
30:28
Why I do have to say a lot of these thoughts that I that I
30:30
have stemmed immediately following the Sasaki signing,
30:35
but which which I don't even know if we've technically
30:37
touched on, but like we're. Just go ahead and screw all
30:39
these numbers out, yeah? With the Scott signing, what I
30:43
mean, what is that? I know it, it only adds, adds to
30:47
this conversation certainly. But are there any thoughts
30:50
specifically to the Tanner Scott signing that that you have?
30:53
Because I, I, I thought, you know, there, there were teams
30:58
that were very much directly tied to needing a, a top, a top
31:06
end or a high caliber relief arm such as the Red Sox.
31:13
But I mean, really, I mean, any, any team could realistically use
31:16
a, an elite arm like that out of your pen.
31:19
But teams in in particular team specifically were tied to, to
31:23
guys like Scott so on and so forth.
31:27
And seemingly out of nowhere, here come the Dodgers scoop him
31:30
up. So, you know, like, how does
31:33
this like, how does this affect the rest of the league?
31:35
Because now you've got teams that I think we're possibly
31:39
banking on, you know, like, well, we missed out on on this
31:42
name. We missed out on that name.
31:43
But at least we could maybe go scoop up Scott and call it an
31:46
offseason and and sort of move forward as it stands.
31:51
But now Scott's off the off the table.
31:54
So like, where does this leave the rest of baseball?
31:59
Stop low balling. Stop low balling.
32:05
You know what I mean? And, and really like figure out
32:11
the character of the guy you want to sign and what his
32:13
mentality is. You know, does he does he want
32:18
to call that place home? Does he want an easier ride to
32:21
get to a trophy? Does he want the legacy of, you
32:26
know, etching his name in that franchise's history?
32:31
I don't. None of most of these names are
32:34
going to be forgettable. No one, you know, we're going to
32:36
look down the road 30 years from now and look at this Dodger
32:40
stretch and no one's going to remember it's Tanner Scott name.
32:43
If it becomes a Red Sox, maybe that's different.
32:45
I don't know. But look, let's face it, like
32:49
we're halfway through January. It's not like these other
32:53
organizations didn't have an opportunity.
32:57
But I don't know, man. Like you, you read about some of
33:01
these names and, and you're, you're recognizing that the pay
33:06
cuts. I mean, the, the notification
33:09
came out yesterday that the Padres offered Sasaki $10
33:12
million. So again, he takes a pay cut and
33:17
we can talk Japanese connections.
33:19
You Darvish is still there. Who is revered, revered in
33:24
Japan? Like, that's that's still there.
33:29
So if we're going to take that part of the conversation out of
33:31
it at this point, it is, yeah. You took less money to be less
33:36
important on a team that has, in my mind, a clear path.
33:44
So you have to start taking that into account.
33:48
It's tough, man. And then on the same end, you
33:51
have agents that are obviously going to try to maximize the
33:54
amount of dollars that their client gets.
33:57
Everyone's doing their job, everyone's doing their job.
34:01
No one's breaking the rules here.
34:05
So at a certain point, the rules are going to have to change.
34:10
And that's what I'm saying. That's I, I cannot stress enough
34:13
people in the chat, you say you don't, you say you're not upset,
34:17
and then you just keep going on whining for the rest of the
34:19
episode. That's not literally it.
34:20
I'm sorry if it comes across that way.
34:22
I'm not upset. Let me stress again, I'm not
34:25
upset with what the Dodgers are doing as a franchise because
34:29
they are doing it within the parameters set forth by the
34:32
league. I'm not upset at Dodgers.
34:38
I'm just asking. It's and it's what we started
34:41
the episode off with it. It's it.
34:42
It begs the question at what point does what the Dodgers are
34:49
doing become bad for the sport and where what it where is that
34:55
point if it's not now? I'm not saying that it is now.
34:59
Some people think that we we surpassed that point a long time
35:02
ago with the Otani signing or even before that.
35:08
But it it, it begs the question, like, where are we at with this
35:11
whole thing? Yeah.
35:13
Monetarily, what did, what did we say?
35:15
Three, 72377, something like that?
35:20
Oh, for the payroll. Yeah.
35:23
I think, yeah. I thought you were talking
35:25
Scott. The Scott deal was 4 four years,
35:28
72 million. That payroll to the the over
35:31
370. Now the as we know, once you
35:35
reach that, that you know, the Cohen tax is what everyone calls
35:39
it, the 110% threshold. Is that for the whole dollar
35:44
amount or just whatever they're over that threshold for?
35:51
Like are they paying 110% on 370?
35:54
I don't think they care honestly.
35:56
Or are they paying 110% of the 70 plus, you know, if that's the
36:02
the 77 or 72, whatever it is, you're paying another 80 on top
36:06
of that. You're talking about overall
36:08
money, you know, in that 45460 range.
36:12
In 2023, the tax rate was 90% on any amount over 293.
36:19
Yeah. And that's since we've got the,
36:24
the, the 320 threshold, isn't it like 3-10 or three O 5, whatever
36:30
it is, that's the 110% threshold.
36:33
There's different thresholds where you're going to pay the
36:35
90% or the, you know, 110%. I think it's never 325.
36:40
That year, the Mets paid $101 million in luxury tax.
36:44
Yeah, yeah, man, yeah, yeah. I mean, you're closer to, you
36:51
know, the half a half a bill all out money coming out.
36:57
So I don't know. I don't know how to feel.
37:04
I are you bummed because I got my team wasn't necessarily that
37:09
I think they were in early in the offseason on Tanner Scott.
37:13
There was some rumors about Sasaki, but like I don't think
37:16
that the Yankees were like fully in in that conversation.
37:21
How do you feel as a Red Sox fan?
37:22
Like are you? You feel kind of gypped cause
37:25
Tanner Scott was linked to them pretty strongly.
37:29
Yeah, I I was trying to find the tweet I put out, but it yeah,
37:37
the the Red Sox were certainly linked to Tanner Scott and and
37:40
how serious of an offer they made I have yet to see.
37:45
But I had I had a tweet earlier this offseason.
37:51
Oh, I said pitchers. The Red Sox have been linked to
37:53
Corbin Burns and a Mariner started starting pitcher and
37:56
this was early to mid. This was December 13th.
38:00
I tweeted this out. Position players the Red Sox
38:02
have been linked to Nolan Arenado, Alex Bregman, TE Oscar
38:06
Hernandez, Anthony Santander. Go get one of each, add a
38:10
reliever and let's roll. As of right now, none of those
38:16
things have happened. They miss out on Corbin.
38:20
Corbin Burns. The Mariners laughed him out of
38:22
the room at a trade offer. First starting pitcher Nolan
38:26
Arenado is still TBD. Alex Bregman is still TBD T
38:30
Oscar Hernandez back in LA, Anthony Santander TBD, the
38:36
reliever that you're linked to most highly, Tanner Scott is now
38:40
a Dodger. So that's kind of where I'm at
38:46
with with my situation as a fan. But like it kind of going back
38:51
to the point about the Dodgers having a a target on their back
38:54
and then being this being good for baseball.
38:57
I absolutely agree with that. And, and in terms of them having
39:02
such a target on their back that it almost makes you forget about
39:07
other storylines possibly going on around baseball, maybe other
39:10
teams who are like even the Mets, for example, like the Mets
39:14
there for a minute were were sort of the king on the seat
39:17
where it's like, OK, that that's the team to beat right now.
39:20
Because they they went out and got the guy that so many of
39:23
these other teams wanted. And they forked out as much
39:26
money as they were going to to have to make that happen.
39:30
And they did it. And then you quickly remember
39:33
there's a team on the other side of the country that oh, yeah,
39:36
nothing, nothing's really changed.
39:37
They're, they're still, they're still the team team in charge.
39:41
They're the team to beat. And by the way, they're just,
39:44
they continue to get better and get better and get better.
39:47
So I think the 2025 storyline with the Dodgers just being this
39:50
absolute juggernaut is going to be good for baseball because we
39:55
can. We can talk all the time about.
40:00
You know, they're needing to be a level playing field and you
40:03
and I have even talked about how like, you know, it's refreshing
40:06
to to see some smaller market teams get in there.
40:08
Some even like some mid market teams make a deep run into into
40:12
October that I'm not saying that's not good for baseball.
40:14
That's, that's also great for baseball, but at all times, I
40:19
believe you need a team like this, whether it be the 90s
40:23
Yankees, the early 2000s Yankees, the, the, the Dodgers
40:27
of now of, of today. You need a team like this at all
40:30
times to look at as the proverbial boogeyman because
40:34
hate them, love them. You have a feeling towards them.
40:38
And that's what drives the sport forward because you, you, you've
40:42
always you always have a storyline to look to and say,
40:46
all right, my team has the Dodgers circled on their on
40:50
their schedule in July. We got it.
40:53
We got to make sure that we tune in for that.
40:55
We got to make sure we make the trip over to the ballpark for
40:57
that. Whatever things like that,
41:00
they're they're they're ramifications.
41:02
There's a ripple effect of the Dodgers being as good as they
41:05
are that I don't think people are fully taking into account
41:08
right now. But they are things, believe it
41:10
or not, that are good for baseball.
41:12
And I'm curious to see how this shakes out.
41:14
And I can almost guarantee you before Opening Day hits, we are
41:18
going to get a handful of Mookie Bet sound bites that are going
41:22
to only add fuel to this fire because we saw it.
41:26
We saw it last year and granted, some of those were, were
41:30
misinterpreted, I believe, But I, I only think that this is
41:33
going to put a that much more pep in their step through the
41:37
lens or, or through the words of guys like Mookie Betts and and
41:42
others on that team. Because you can, you can pretty
41:45
much say whatever you want at this point.
41:47
You're coming off a World Series title.
41:48
You're the best team in baseball right now and you're going to be
41:51
the best team in baseball for presumably the near future and
41:54
and possibly even beyond that. So.
41:58
What's the Ribble effect on the trade deadline?
41:59
You know what I mean? Like some of those teams that
42:02
feel like they can compete by still giving up some things, not
42:09
to beat the Dodgers, you know what I mean?
42:12
You need as much depth as you can get.
42:15
So I'm curious to see how many teams punt during this window
42:21
because that happens. We watched the Orioles do it for
42:25
a decade and just load up and try to get that young core,
42:30
young, controllable, really good core.
42:33
How many teams do that? How many teams where you see a
42:40
Mariners rotation? We say you have a little bit of,
42:43
you know, well, you, you got some riches there that you could
42:46
maybe move on to plug other holes that you have.
42:50
Is that still a conversation? Does that change?
42:55
I'm not saying now, I'm saying as that deadline's coming up,
43:01
then you're probably just going to get a plethora of quotes that
43:04
are just like, we got to play our game.
43:05
We got to play our game. We can't pay attention to what
43:08
they're doing over in LA. We just got to play our game.
43:12
And that's what I mean is that like, I think coaching is is
43:16
more important now than ever. Make sure these guys are doing
43:19
every little thing. You can't give a Dodgers team an
43:23
inch. They're going to beat you more
43:25
often than not without you giving them anything.
43:28
So you can't give them an inch. You can't have a drop fly ball.
43:32
You can't have a first base going uncovered.
43:35
You can't have a 90 not being run hard.
43:38
You can't have it. So I do hope that that spreads
43:43
to the rest of our game to where it's specifically seeing, you
43:48
know, AD backs team that led the league in offense last year, by
43:52
the way, continues to do the little stuff right.
43:56
And maybe you start seeing the rest of the game being played a
43:59
little bit. Maybe there is more bunting.
44:02
Maybe there is we just got to scratch and claw to beat this
44:05
team and do whatever we can to to get a dub.
44:10
Maybe you start to see that. And I don't know if it happens
44:13
during the regular season, but hopefully it does happen during
44:16
the postseason. And and again, you just see
44:19
whatever, you know, every team's best version of themselves going
44:23
up against, like you said, the boogeyman.
44:32
I've got MLB Network on right now and they're just running
44:35
through the Scott deal and it's like, yeah, it this was just
44:40
another example of like, Shirley, Shirley, this, this
44:46
wasn't going to happen. And it does.
44:48
And do you know that those, you know, those Emmett Sheehan's and
44:51
and Dustin Mays are likely just going to move to the bullpen?
44:56
They're likely just going to be an opener like middle relief
44:59
guy. Which is crazy You talked
45:01
earlier about or I was asking you like, what does this look
45:03
like for the, for the season itself?
45:05
And you're like, well, there's going to be some coasting.
45:06
And I, and I'm thinking to myself, imagine, imagine being
45:11
at a point where there's a week in the, in the, the heart of
45:14
summer where your guys are just zapped.
45:18
There's no energy. And like we got to, we got to
45:22
take the take the foot off the pedal for a little bit.
45:25
Who do we got? You look, you look on the line,
45:27
you could look at the roster. Well, we can.
45:28
We can roll Dustin May out there.
45:31
Yeah, who would be a middle rotation guy on most most teams
45:38
it's. Crazy.
45:39
We got to give. We got to give Mookie or Tommy
45:41
Edmund a day off in the outfield.
45:42
Who we got? Oh, we just roll out James
45:44
Outman. Sure, let's do that.
45:49
The depth is insane and it's not just a it's not role player
45:55
depth. It's like they'd be starters
45:56
anywhere else depth correct. They'd be in the starting
46:01
lineup, starting rotation first made out of the pen and any
46:06
other team. So there will be coasting.
46:11
You don't need to rely on an on an Otani coming back after TJ
46:15
and being like, wonder what he's going to give us.
46:17
Who cares? You're not going to have to
46:19
worry about a Tyler glass now missing 7 to 10 starts because
46:23
of, you know, a back tightening up.
46:26
Who cares? You're not going to have to
46:28
worry. I feel bad for the guys in the
46:32
in the in in the minor league system.
46:36
Good luck. Yeah, good luck.
46:38
I do feel for those guys and maybe that's something I don't,
46:45
I don't like there's no weaknesses.
46:49
What's what are the Dodgers organization?
46:51
What do they do? Do they do they move those guys
46:53
for what? What else is out there?
46:56
What else do you need? So like I don't.
47:02
Know I said, I said we're, we're talking.
47:05
I mean, we can talk about the Japanese market, but I saw a
47:09
tweet yesterday that said the Los Angeles Dodgers make history
47:12
with the signing of Joseph Dang, the first player ever signed
47:15
from South Sudan. He's 6 foot seven, 185 lbs and
47:21
can hit 95. 67195. No, I yeah, 67185 it's.
47:32
A bean pole. And I said the Dodgers are just
47:34
out here completing side quests at this point.
47:36
Like they're just, it's, it's insane.
47:39
It's crazy. And I'm no matter what they do,
47:43
no matter who they sign. And this is sort of like my, my
47:48
main take away from all of this. No matter who they sign, no
47:51
matter who they trade for. I, and I'm sure many other
47:57
baseball fans could, and I said this earlier, could only hope
48:01
that our teams would behave the way the Dodgers are doing.
48:04
You could only wish to have an owner of front office A, a, a
48:10
coaching staff be this invested and care this much about
48:14
winning. And I get it.
48:15
They have money. I understand that, but so do
48:19
other teams. And I'm not saying that.
48:21
I, I, I think I'm past the point now of saying, well, the other
48:24
teams can just do what the Dodgers are doing because we've,
48:26
we've laid it out very, very clearly here that they can't
48:29
necessarily do it to that effect.
48:32
But they're, we talk about it all the time.
48:35
This was such a, this has been such a big issue in baseball.
48:37
There's owners out there that also have money and choose to
48:41
pocket it because this is nothing more than addition.
48:45
Owning a baseball team, a Major League, a big League Baseball
48:48
team is nothing more to them than just in addition to their
48:52
portfolio. And so if you're a fan of a team
48:56
like that, which is more than not in this league, how could
49:02
you then look at the Dodgers and say, well, that's not good for
49:05
baseball. Look at your own team.
49:07
Yeah, look at how far off you you are now from the standard.
49:11
Channel the frustration to your own organization, your own
49:15
franchise and look at, look to your owner and say, what are we
49:18
doing? And, and credit like that.
49:20
I, I know some White Sox fans out there in particular, and I
49:23
know they, they get kicked around more often than not.
49:27
White Sox fans are very aware of their situation and they're,
49:31
they are very much aware of who their frustration should be
49:35
directed at. And I and I and I applaud them
49:37
for that because they're not looking around going well, woe
49:40
is us. The let's look at the big bad
49:42
Dodgers and, and blame them for all of our troubles.
49:45
No, they go, you know what we got to, we got to be better
49:49
here. And there's other teams around
49:50
the league that I think are, are getting to a point where they
49:52
are other fan bases, I should say, we're who are getting to a
49:55
point where they're starting to come around to that way of
49:57
thinking. But to the the people that are
50:00
looking at the Dodgers, you, you, you got to not be upset
50:04
with what they're doing because it again, it's legal, but
50:08
instead be more upset with your own team.
50:12
How do you force owners out? How do you force owners out of
50:17
their situation of just, you know, cashing checks and
50:21
enjoying owning A-Team? Like how do you do, I don't know
50:24
how that can happen. I don't know.
50:31
Before we get out of here, I was, you know, kind of thinking
50:33
of this question. What do you what do you feel
50:35
like you would want more now? A salary cap or a salary floor?
50:41
Salary floor even. I'm still in that camp.
50:43
I'm still in that camp. Even with the way this offseason
50:46
has gone, particularly for this Dodgers team where we we've been
50:49
talking about this entire time. What would you like to see that
50:51
floor at? Just kind of shooting from the
50:53
hip? What number?
50:59
To be honest with you, I I haven't gotten to a point of
51:01
thinking about specific dollars, but I just know that when you
51:04
when you talk about having a putting a cap on what players
51:08
are willing to acquire, because ultimately a cap is anti player.
51:13
That's the reality of it. Sure, yeah.
51:17
And so if, if you're looking at, if you're looking at both camps,
51:19
I'm going, I'll take the floor because again, my, my anger with
51:26
the issue in baseball of teams not spending lives with these
51:29
owners who are not spending. So I'm, I would need there to be
51:34
just a bare minimum spent across baseball.
51:38
Like I, I want to see, I want to see momentum as misplaced as it
51:44
is like we're seeing with the A's right now.
51:49
And again, I know that they're not spending out of the goodness
51:51
of their hearts. They're doing it to avoid a
51:53
grievance. I understand that.
51:55
And just get some of this revenue sharing that's going
51:57
around. Sure.
51:58
But like, I, I want to see that, but in a more altruistic, a, a
52:02
more honest way, a, a way that I want to see that happen, but in
52:09
a way that's better for baseball where you go, OK, you know, what
52:12
this team is, is, is being asked to, to spend more to, to go out
52:16
and sign names that aren't necessarily out of the dumpster.
52:22
And you look at what the A's do and you go, OK, like I, I, I
52:25
kind of like that. I want to see that across these
52:27
other cellar dweller teams that are, that are around baseball.
52:31
Like I want to see that happen. And again, I know the A's aren't
52:34
the greatest example because of their current situation, but I
52:37
want to see a snowball effect like that.
52:39
And so that happens with a, with a, with a floor as opposed to a
52:44
cap, because what, what good does, what good does, does put
52:50
in a cap on payroll do OK, You, you, you keep the Dodgers from
52:57
from going above and beyond. What is that?
53:00
What about these other teams that refuse to spend money?
53:02
That's why I've never understood the people that are, are in the
53:04
camp of we need a seller cap. We need a seller cap.
53:07
OK, the Dodgers are going to Max it out.
53:11
What about the other team? What about the other third of
53:14
the league that just does not care?
53:18
They're going to stay exactly where they're at, So what good
53:20
does a cap do, at least with a floor?
53:24
I, I, you get the ball. Rolling a little the.
53:25
Floor is easy. I mean just raise the the
53:29
minimum requirement for that that that revenue sharing raise
53:33
it. I think if I was to throw a
53:37
number out there, I'd say 200, one, 85200, something like that.
53:45
Yeah, yeah, I think it'd be a fair number of like what you
53:47
need to have your payroll at. And if you can't afford it as an
53:51
owner, maybe you shouldn't be an owner.
53:55
If you're not competitive enough to want to afford it, then you
53:59
shouldn't be an owner. I'm sick of seeing, like you
54:04
said, owners become owners just to add it to their portfolio.
54:09
Give me competitive owners. Give me winners.
54:14
It's the, it's the simplest thing that I've I've said for
54:18
years at this point. It should be a requirement to
54:23
have an owner who take who, who, who takes on a Major League
54:33
franchise. It should be a a minimum
54:35
requirement, bare minimum that they actually like the sport,
54:41
that they want to make their product better.
54:43
And people can say, well, it's it's it's a business, OK.
54:47
I know plenty of business owners that do the work that they do
54:52
and are in the industry and field and business that they are
54:54
in because they like doing it. Just because they make a certain
54:58
amount of money doesn't mean that they should be let off
55:01
Scott free. And regarding actually caring
55:05
about this, because unlike other businesses or industries, this,
55:09
this, you know, element or, or asset that you're, that you're
55:16
taking on impacts the lives of a lot of people.
55:20
And you have fan bases. You don't see the, this is the
55:25
thing that I try to always make people understand.
55:27
You don't see people we love. We love farmers.
55:33
We love our farmers. But you don't see hundreds of
55:36
thousands of people showing up to a farm rooting for a farmer
55:41
to do his work, OK? You don't see hundreds of
55:45
thousands of people rolling up to a school to cheer on teachers
55:49
that they do that they do good work.
55:52
Baseball, sports. You had this, this.
55:55
And I'm not saying those other things don't impact people.
55:58
That's not what I'm saying. But you have other people who
56:01
would give their left arm to see their their team succeed, to see
56:06
their players succeed, to see their their favorite player get
56:09
the respects and and type of contract that they deserve
56:12
because of how well they perform, the type of money they
56:15
bring on, bring in, so on and so forth.
56:18
But the person at the top of the food chain could not care less.
56:24
There's a problem with that. So we we need to get in.
56:28
You're not going to be able to enforce this as a league because
56:31
it's all it's the good, it's the good old boys club up there,
56:34
which I understand and you know, it's going to be what it's going
56:37
to be. So I'm not going to sit here and
56:39
say what, like you said, you, you can't force these owners
56:41
out. But we need to have a the
56:44
conversation, I think needs to shift to guys like that.
56:47
We need to, we need to stop, you know, putting all, all of our,
56:51
our thoughts and, and concerns about the, the direction of the
56:55
league on the Dodgers and instead look to these other
56:59
1520, maybe even 25 owners that simply do not care because it's
57:06
nothing more than a financial asset to them.
57:08
That's where the issue in all of this lies.
57:13
Yeah, by the way. I mean, we're going to feel
57:16
this. We're going to feel this
57:18
eventually, you know? Nobody in the chat, nobody has a
57:23
Tyson chicken tattoo. My point?
57:26
That's exactly my point. Yeah, we're going to feel this
57:31
eventually as a fan. And, you know, the average
57:37
family is, is likely not going to be able to afford to go to a
57:40
Dodgers game. And there's going to be a ripple
57:42
effect to that eventually. And your MLBTV subscription for
57:47
the year, instead of 120, it's probably going to be 199.
57:51
You know, all that stuff's going to start to climb.
57:56
There's a ripple effect to it. So, you know, I, I understand
58:00
your sentiment and I'm just playing devil's advocate here
58:02
because, you know, I agree, but a salary cap does kind of keep
58:07
some of those things in perspective to where it's not
58:12
just so much of like the player getting what he deserves.
58:16
Our fans, you know, we're going to be paying for that and it's
58:18
going to come out one way or another.
58:21
And when you're talking about going to a game with your buddy
58:24
and sitting somewhere, we don't need binoculars and, and trying
58:29
to get a hot dog and a beer, you know, But where do we draw the
58:34
line? Where do we draw the line that,
58:36
you know, just having a day at the park doesn't turn into a
58:39
four or $500 a day because it's getting there?
58:44
And to that point, I say if, if, if a cap is what needs to
58:49
happen, which I, I don't think it's going to happen, but if
58:52
that's what needs to happen, it had it needs to come with the
58:55
floor because it goes back to the point that I made about.
58:57
For sure. Yeah, I don't think you have one
58:59
without the other. What is a cap going to do to the
59:03
the third, if not half of the league?
59:05
That is fine. Sitting on their hands, yeah.
59:08
Not to mention you're going to see more advert, you're going to
59:10
see more sponsorships, you're going to see more patches,
59:13
you're going to see more ad deals on the helmets and the
59:15
jerseys and all that kind of stuff is going to start to, you
59:18
know, hit you more. And this is this is what
59:21
happens. This is how it goes.
59:23
And you're going to see more streaming sites, you know,
59:28
trying to get exclusive Friday night games or Saturday day
59:32
games and you're going to have to have more, more subscriptions
59:35
than ever. And that's, that's what's
59:38
happening, That's what's coming. So buckle up.
59:43
You know, that's my devil's advocate argument argument with
59:46
that, you know, just letting teams spend whatever they want
59:49
'cause that money is going to come from somewhere.
59:51
Yeah, but and we don't need to pull on this thread because we
59:54
could spend a whole another episode on this, but there is
59:56
certainly without a doubt an element here of just gluttonous
1:00:01
greed where it's like I think in an ideal world, you could have a
1:00:06
a league where you don't have a salary cap.
1:00:09
Teams are are are free to spend whatever they want and also
1:00:13
have. A family of four be able to go
1:00:16
to a baseball game for an affordable price.
1:00:18
There, there there is a world out there, right?
1:00:20
It's not ours, but there there's a, there's a reality, there's a,
1:00:25
a universe where a family of four, family of five can go to a
1:00:29
baseball game for under 100 bucks and the guys that are on
1:00:35
the field are getting their I use fair cut, fair share in
1:00:40
quotes. I use that loosely because I
1:00:42
know this, I know that I know there's certain people that go,
1:00:44
how much money do you need? I'm just talking about how much
1:00:47
money is brought in by a team and what it, it's the whole
1:00:50
like, should college athletes be paid?
1:00:52
It's like sort sort of along that those things.
1:00:54
It's like they deserve a cut of, of the, the product that they're
1:00:57
producing. That that's my take.
1:01:00
But yeah, ultimately there, there is a universe where these
1:01:03
things can coexist, but it it's not going to.
1:01:06
Yeah, it's it's not going to. So tell you what, I'll try to
1:01:08
take the wife out to a Dodgers spring training game and I'll
1:01:11
let you know what that bill looks like for spring training.
1:01:16
I'll I'll sit in the grass and I'll let you know what that
1:01:18
looks like. We.
1:01:19
You and I went out to one back in 2023 when we're out there for
1:01:23
the World Baseball Classic, we're like, oh, let's just go,
1:01:25
why not? Let's catch a dodge game.
1:01:26
And if you remember, I'm pretty sure that was the steepest bill
1:01:29
of, of, of the spring training games we went to.
1:01:33
Understandably so. But I can't even imagine two
1:01:36
year, 2 year, 2-3 years later, what?
1:01:38
It's going to be crazy. Crazy, crazy.
1:01:44
Well, good stuff, man, good stuff.
1:01:47
Hopefully this starts to have a little bit of a ripple effect.
1:01:50
I, I think, I think some of those team like I, I think the
1:01:56
Red Sox are definitely going to go in on, on Bregman now.
1:02:00
I think some of these, you know, teams that not necessarily the
1:02:04
Sasaki stuff because that had international money and that was
1:02:07
going to have some kind of a, a, a limited dip anyway, but
1:02:12
hopefully there's a little bit of a domino effect with some of
1:02:14
these other deals. I mean, look, dude, we're
1:02:15
getting close to February and we got some big names still out
1:02:18
there, so. We got a we got a boot licker in
1:02:21
the chat that says whining about prices sounds like a you
1:02:24
problem. No, you're right.
1:02:25
I I in fact, I hope they raise the prices really truthfully
1:02:29
like I'm, I don't know about you, Nate, but I I want to take
1:02:33
I I want to be able to take out a small loan this spring, this
1:02:37
summer for it to to be able to enjoy A9 inning ball game that,
1:02:41
by the way, last two hours and nothing more.
1:02:45
Yeah. So count me in as wanting them
1:02:47
wanting to raise the prices. That's that's where I'm at with
1:02:51
all this. But anyway, you got any, you got
1:02:54
any final thoughts here before we before we get out of here?
1:02:57
No, I mean nothing really. Anybody that's new.
1:03:00
Thanks for thanks for hopping in.
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This was a little bit of a, you know, spur of the moment.
1:03:04
Let's let's knock it out for Sasaki and Tanner Scott was just
1:03:07
a bonus because we already decided to record today.
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But we're normally, you know, Monday, Thursday nights.
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We're always going to go live for the most part.
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And once the season starts, things may shift a little bit.
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Yankee fans crying poor. Hey, that sort of closing on
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that note, whether you hate us, whether you love us, whether you
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pull forward, we're just here. We're just talking baseball.
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And at the end of the day, you, Nate and I are going to log off
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1:04:16
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1:04:22
We're not, we're not, we're not above you guys.
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We just like we're we're baseball fans.
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I like talking baseball. And again, you can hate us or
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We're not going to get upset with you.
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We're not going to we're not going to write you off as as
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crazy as takes as some of you guys have.
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We're we're cool. So if you want to talk baseball
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to talk ball with us. So with that said Nate, I think
1:05:03
you are good, I am good. Let's get out of here.
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We love you all. And as always, looking forward
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Until next time, stay filthy.