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  Don't see the majority? The real crown jewel in the
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  haystack. We have not talked about
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  keyboarding in forever. He should be a hot topic.
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  We. Should have an experience for
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  him next year. I'm drafting him cause it just
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  has not been enough of already talk and I feel like we just
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  talk about him a lot more when he's on my team so I'll make
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  that happen. I tried to trade for him but no
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  bites. If anybody's new here, the
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  majority is we put a nickel in the in the everything.
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  We talk about Gabe Vilardi and then we count.
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  But we've kind of lost track. So there's been a minute.
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  It has been a minute if we dive into assume some hot topics for
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  this. Week.
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  Yes, we should. Alright, let's get started with
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  a favorite of ours, and by that I mean someone who pretty much
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  don't think any of us would ever draft again, Timo Meyer of the
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  New Jersey Devils. His bangers have been sick, but
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  the points are abysmal. Is there any hope or is he
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  droppable? Hmm, this is such like he.
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  He fell from grace like no other.
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  He was one of the best. Players in the exact moment it's
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  when that flight went right over which part of the US, maybe
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  right when it landed in New Jersey, the San Jose.
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  Yeah, yeah, it's, it's such a crazy thing.
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  I I mean that they should not. They should just try to get rid
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  of him I feel like. If they're not gonna use it
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  like, what's the point? He's the brand of legal New
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  Jersey, but worse. What sick things, though, yeah.
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  Why, Brandon? Brandon Hagel's good.
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  Yeah, exactly. But I'm just saying like he's so
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  good but yet they don't give him like always great deployment,
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  but. How you actually produce?
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  That's what I'm talking about. Would you rather Timo Meyer
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  produce rest of season? He's gonna be here for the
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  bangs, but Portis will get more points probably.
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  I mean, this is how I see the situation.
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  The points are really bad guys. It's it's so bad, but the banks
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  are actually pretty elite. And because of that, you can
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  drop him. You just have to kind of like
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  reevaluate your expectations. He's the type of guy that I'm
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  always going to be like the floor is so high because he's
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  shooting a lot. He hits, he has great exposure
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  to talent around him. Just the points are just not
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  there, but the points could be there.
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  It just, it just feels like it's a deployment question.
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  And if he gets lucky on any given week, it can go in his
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  favor. But he's the type of guy like,
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  he's like Kadri. It feels like where you know,
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  you've seen it before carries the looming trade.
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  He's, you know, peripherals are somewhat good.
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  Usually teams are way better, but you can't drop them.
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  It just feels like there's too much value that you're dropping.
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  He's like Tolvanen, but like a better name.
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  Yeah, he's saying he's the type of guy and just reminds me of
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  this like a scene in like, have you guys seen Workaholics?
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  I have not. No, no.
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  OK, I know the guys TV show and like 2 of the guys like a bar.
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  Like they're taking these two girls.
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  One of them is like trying to type the other guy up.
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  He's like, he's the type of guy you don't wanna bring him bring
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  home to your mom. Tell him why and he's like, I'll
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  bang your mom. Yes, good thing we did.
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  This podcast is not for kids. Yeah, OK.
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  Moving along, I think, I think Meyer is is also.
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  I agree he's not droppable and I don't know how much trade value
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  you can get realistically, just kind of gonna be stuck with a
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  guy getting decent shots, hits all season and that's all you
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  can expect. I don't know if you could like,
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  can you trade him like for like a Nick Schmaltz to me.
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  Would you do that even? I would much rather have Nick
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  Schmaltz. To me he's the type of player
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  that you do. You have like a 2 for one deal
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  and he's part of the two and you're adding him as a bonus
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  where maybe you're losing value on the Shaws or the hits on
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  aggregate, but opening up the streaming spot and being able to
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  move like another player for a lateral move, that's an
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  improvement. I think that's the type of
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  trader you have to do if you're still holding Timo Meyer because
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  his roster percentage is going down and down.
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  But it's hard because he does have like so much name value.
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  He was drafted really high. It's just he's not on the power
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  play. He's not getting the points.
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  I'm surprised the. Shots are still on the power
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  play. Yeah, it's over him.
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  Like this is just not happening. Yeah, OK.
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  What are some names of guys like you would you would drop him
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  for? I have a crazy one but I'm going
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  to start off with I think it's spicy.
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  I would drop him for Mulkin. Yeah, for sure.
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  Yeah, I know, I know where it we've all, we've all been kind
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  of like on the walk and sell high train for a while and we're
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  not like necessarily the biggest believers.
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  But what he's been doing this year, you have to show, you
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  know, show some respect. He's been over a point per game
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  all season. So yeah, exactly.
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  I thought that was going to get a lot more reaction than it did.
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  Sorry everyone, moving along. Troy, Terry.
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  I would take Terry. Yeah, I mean honestly, I think
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  produce is a good is a good question.
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  Ohe, welcome to the club my. Friend, I'm taking my Rover
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  produce. It's great here we got hella
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  altitude. I would say protest over.
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  My job for Val Nichushkin. Yes.
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  Yeah, I think anyone who can have like similar back hats with
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  any material, no. Are they material from Mctavish?
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  Yeah. About Bennett Sanaki.
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  The goat. I think I'm taking.
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  I think I'm taking. Yeah, honestly, yeah.
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  Jared McCann. Yeah.
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  Yeah, it's all about easy. Yeah, yeah.
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  The Foley those are no, I'm taking my ear Mark.
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  I might rather, I think I'd rather Toffoli.
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  Was that crazy? Really.
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  I want to fully will give me more points, more power play
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  points I. Don't think I don't need to
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  fully like spot in the lineup on power play one or anything as
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  secure. We've seen him bump to power
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  play too, Sir. We saw him via drop earlier.
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  Like I think there is some there's definitely value to the
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  shots hits that Meyer brings. I just think you can't really
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  expect much of the much else. But you know, those are all good
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  names. I got one or Justin Sort.
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  Of it's tough, but give me a give me Meyer.
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  Meyer, but no disrespect to sort of.
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  I don't know, I feel like it's a.
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  Call. He's been unreal.
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  He's been. Unreal.
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  So good. I guess that's the safe thing to
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  do. But yeah, OK, I'm doing sort of
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  there. There's a lot.
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  Alright, let's do the next one. Jordan Kairu.
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  Is he an AD? Do we expect him to have a
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  strong finish to the year? Is he getting traded?
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  I, I only think he's a strong finish of the year if he gets
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  traded, but I think he's getting traded.
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  I feel like it's 5050. He had a decent week last week,
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  put up like like 5 points against.
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  Me, Well, that's we have enough of a sample size to know that
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  this year the Blues are just not going to be consistent enough
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  for me to rely on that production.
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  I feel like he's a streamer kind of level type of player.
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  I think if he gets traded, he'll have a way better opportunity
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  wherever he goes. Maybe I'm too low on him, maybe
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  that's just me, but that's kind of how I see it.
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  I don't want to buy into it too quick.
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  I think that a trade cadet would definitely benefit him.
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  I think he's definitely fallen out of favor with the coach and
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  all that. So that I don't disagree with,
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  but I I think he's definitely worth an AD.
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  I think, I think I'm higher than him than you are for sure.
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  I think he's been on a hot streak and I view more the early
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  season as an anomaly as opposed to what he's been doing now
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  because we've seen like past couple years what kind of player
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  he can be. And I don't expect him to go to
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  his full stealing rest of season, but I think he's going
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  to be a solid addition to your team, especially if you could
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  probably get it for free in a lot of leagues.
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  If he hasn't been picked up yet though, I like him rest of
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  season I think he'll be solid. Cairo Maddie Bonniers, who was
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  our top boy Roy AD this week. That's a good one.
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  I was gonna say the one that I would take Cairo over for sure
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  is some Mason marchment. And I know you're a big
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  marchman. Yeah.
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  So I'm talking. OK, Yeah.
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  So there you go. Jackie, where you taking between
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  those two? I'm probably gonna take, well,
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  first of all, in the first one, I'm going to take veneers and.
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  Then we were Weaver level guy then.
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  Yeah, but like the 1%, like are you taking Cairo or Meyer, you
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  know? Cairo.
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  I think I agree. Like I feel like I know it's
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  waiver. Wire miners, but Myers shot
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  points are just so low, that's the thing.
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  But they should not be this low. So I'm taking care.
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  I'm still going to Timo. Yeah, so Cairo over marksman,
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  but. I'm taking orders.
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  Over the other ones. OK, I think I'm taking, yeah, in
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  years as well, but I think I'm taking over the other guys.
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  So I think Kevin just a lot lower on him and they look, I
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  don't expect a full bounce back, but I think the team's gonna
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  come back. I think the team is still bad.
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  I just think he's a good player and a lot better than he's been
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  doing. They're going to get Robert
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  Thomas back. They're gonna get Dylan Holloway
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  back. And you know, wherever he ends
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  up in the line up, even if he's in line 2, power play 1B, I
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  think that there's still value there.
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  He's usually on the line with Holloway, who I expect to have a
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  solid finish to the year. So I think and he's been showing
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  flashes already in the last like week or two of getting his like
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  spark back. So I think he's worth definitely
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  worth an ad. I wouldn't buy though.
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  I wouldn't like buy or anything like that.
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  Yeah, add, but not by. Yeah, alright, here's a fun one.
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  Brandon Hagel, Is he the best player in the NHL?
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  Is he a sell high or is his current face at all sustainable?
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  Biggest question, does he keep power?
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  Play one when Brayden Point returns.
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  I mean, he's been insane. He's been ridiculous.
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  I don't, I I mean, like I want to say, I don't know why they
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  would take him off and let me kind of like get a little bit
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  more specific with that. The power player one right now
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  is would have Kucherov and Gensel and then you'd have
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  Radish Bjorkstrand and point where all right.
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  I think that it's working well with the way that they have it
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  balanced. So to me, I think first of all,
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  Bjorkstrand, obviously we can all agree caliber wise, Hagel
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  should definitely be there over Bergstrand.
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  It's just about what makes sense.
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  And look, they've finally given them the opportunity.
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  He's run away with it and despite the fact that they're
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  missing their top enter, he's still like Hagel still been
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  amazing and Tampa Bay is winning games.
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  So I I don't think it's a guaranteed by any means.
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  If you could sell them for someone who's clearly better
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  with the deployment and everything, then go right ahead.
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  But I feel like it's a really difficult market to sell Hagel
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  because there is the looming. Clearly he's not the default on
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  power play 1. And the second factor there is
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  that yes, this is an over performance.
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  Like obviously it's like 1.4 plus once per game.
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  It's possible, but I mean, he's been so good, I think you can
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  sell him. Like, I don't think anyone's
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  gonna look at that and immediately think, oh, this
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  isn't real. Like people are gonna be like,
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  wow, Like they put it on private.
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  I mean, it'll go both ways. You'll have some people who
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  think points will come and he immediately gets bombed.
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  You have some who think that why the heck is buried there?
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  He should be the one who gets bumped.
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  And Hagel's finally showing why he deserves to be there.
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  So I don't think it's a. Solo though.
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  Yeah, I think that. I think you can as well.
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  I think you can get natures. I think you could get natures.
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  I would do that. Are shaky, send that right now.
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  I forget your signature fix on your team.
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  I think you could get I think you get like trick cancel who
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  maybe people feel like you. I mean, you can aim higher for
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  sure, but I would still be happy getting again.
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  So you could probably get Matthew could Chuck.
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  I think it's very feasible. That would be nuts.
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  I'm gonna try that right now. I think you're, well, I would do
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  that, I think. You could get.
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  Conradi gotta think about it. I gotta think.
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  About it if you. Think you can get Connor Bedard
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  maybe why it Johnston? But listen, this guy every time
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  he just produces always except that like 2 week stretch in like
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  weeks two and three. I feel like he's just been
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  insane and whenever he does get power play one, which is not
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  super often, it takes like 17,000,000 injuries, he's just
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  gets even. It's like they inject steroids
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  into his veins and say go play ice hockey.
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  This guy's nuts. I'm super happy he was my
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  signature pick because listen, it did not look good for a
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  little bit. But at the end of the day, he's
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  just elite. Do I think he keeps power play?
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  One point comes back. I do not think we have enough of
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  a sample size to know that. I think there's like an 80%
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  chance he doesn't keep it. 20% chance of them being like
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  alright he was so good, let's try to find a way to make it
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  work with both of them on there. But I would say the safe way to
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  go is to say that he's not going to get power play 1.
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  And that's why I would say I'm not trying to get him off my
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  roster, but you have to try to capitalize on it when he's
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  producing this much. Yeah, I'm totally for that.
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  All the names that Kevin mentioned, if you can actually
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  do it, except Gansel, I think I would need Gensel plus, to be
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  honest, because Hagel's they're on the same team and Hagel has
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  been really good, better than Gensel has.
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  If you can do that to all the listeners, go right ahead.
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  I know in our league that's gonna be tough to swing.
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  Like I don't think the bar owner would do that in our situation,
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  but I think if you. Can.
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  Yeah, that's great. Yeah.
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  I also have the coach stock, so I will say it's a little bit
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  harder for me specifically. Like it's really fun to watch.
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  State gets worse if he gets bumped off the 1:00.
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  I know, but the line 1 I think is safe still so I really think.
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  That I don't think it's floor. I'm not saying you get awful if
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  he's not on it though. But.
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  Let's say he got. Shifted around I.
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  Think he's gonna maintain a point per game?
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  Yeah, I would. I would say why not?
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  Like this guy is just so good. Yeah.
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  Yeah, you did it. Great floor.
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  He did it last year with no power play 1.
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  I don't know what a trade from Chicago.
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  Crazy. Yeah, couldn't use.
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  Him as a winger with radar right about.
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  Now you gotta be sick and there he would be.
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  He would get powerfully one. All right, let's go to let's go
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  to the next 1C Coyle. Is he a must pick up?
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  Does he have a better rest of season outlook than Mason
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  marchment? Do we expect him to keep Power
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  Play 1? Charlie Coyle is one of those
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  names that I feel like every year he he does something like
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  encouraging and the owners like I really wish I would have
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  gotten rid of him earlier because that's all high windows
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  gone and now he's droppable. But has he ever gotten power
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  play 1 before? At least a couple.
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  Years. I feel like he has like on
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  Minnesota, no? I don't remember him.
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  Power Play 1. Boston more recently, maybe like
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  this is like a while ago already.
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  I just feel like there's enough of a sample size in his career
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  to know that this insanity is clearly not sustainable.
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  But and I would say I'd kind of rather marchment.
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  I just, I think it's just like the new coach experimenting with
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  different things. And yeah, Minnesota was
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  20/18/19. So that was a while ago.
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  Yeah, no, I know. I just I'm not buying into this
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  one as much as let's say I'm that buying into like Cairo
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  being good. I know coil's been way better.
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  So I think like, you know, obviously that's that's one
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  thing, but I just think that this is subject to change.
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  This looks incredible, though. There's no doubt about it.
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  But I would love to sell if I can.
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  I'm not buying. I mean, for me, I echoing Jiggy
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  sentiment, I feel like you look at the numbers, you look at all
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  the peripherals and you know the situation.
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  I feel like something like this requires a lot of context
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  evaluation. They got a new coach deployment
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  change. The whole team has bounced back,
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  right? I think they want eight of their
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  last nine games under the new coach.
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  This is a different Columbus team.
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  You can't really use the pass data to influence your thoughts
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  going forward, but I think you can use past data on in terms of
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  like Charlie Coyle and who he is as a player and what he can do
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  before NHL teams of fantasy teams.
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  I think this is just like the easiest way of being like he's
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  just not that guy. Like he's he's not that guy.
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  I'm really happy with what he's doing right now.
• 18:23
  But I feel like as we get near out of this honeymoon phase of
• 18:26
  the bonus, I still think Columbus is a sick teams are
• 18:29
  great. They arguably the second best
• 18:30
  team in this division, But I don't think Charlie Coyle is
• 18:33
  going to be, you know, power play 1 the whole season.
• 18:36
  I just don't see it in the cards.
• 18:39
  And that's why to me, I think he's a great waiver wire pickup.
• 18:41
  I think it feels like all his production for the last month
• 18:44
  came in three games where you got like 10 points.
• 18:48
  That's just not sustainable. And I feel like we'll see him
• 18:50
  regress back towards the mean in terms of like, I think his floor
• 18:55
  has been lifted after with the new coaching change, but I don't
• 18:59
  think the ceiling, the ceiling probably goes up, but it's not
• 19:01
  as close as a lot of people think.
• 19:04
  So I think Marchman is still way safer as a prospect and a player
• 19:07
  that I want on my fantasy team rest of the season because he's
• 19:09
  the prototype player that I want, like left wing, you know,
• 19:12
  line one, power play 1 exposed to the top talent and that's
• 19:16
  pretty cemented. Yeah, we should call this this
• 19:19
  bump in production the the bonus bonus.
• 19:22
  Yeah, that's cool. Actually the BB.
• 19:24
  Yeah. I love that.
• 19:26
  Yeah, but. The bonus bonus for Coil?
• 19:29
  Yeah, exactly. So yeah, no, I I fully agree.
• 19:32
  You won't actually. Gay.
• 19:38
  Yeah. So anyways, we I, I fully agree.
• 19:43
  I don't think this is like a must add rest of season
• 19:45
  game-winning like season winning type of thing.
• 19:48
  You pick him up while he's hot and you write it.
• 19:50
  I mean as long as he's power play one I'm interested in
• 19:51
  knowing him. Especially faceoff win leagues
• 19:53
  where he can get face off wins from a from a winger position.
• 19:55
  That's a big addition while they're both on power play 1.
• 19:59
  I feel like what Quilt been doing has been better than what
• 20:02
  Martin's been doing. I just am more confident in
• 20:05
  Marchment keeping that deployment as opposed to Coil.
• 20:08
  So right now I'd rather have Coil, but longer term.
• 20:11
  Expect Martin to be. Better I'm still thinking
• 20:13
  Marchman because I don't want to miss out on March rest of season
• 20:15
  for Coil right now. That's kind of how I'm viewing
• 20:18
  your situation. But if both of these guys are
• 20:20
  going to be guys that are easily on waivers in your leagues and
• 20:23
  maybe you're in a more shallow league and you have to pick one
• 20:25
  just for like the immediate future, you can go with Coil and
• 20:28
  it's not a bad decision at all. If anything, you might be
• 20:31
  rewarded so. Yeah, alright.
• 20:34
  Last one this is. Big Broadcasting Corporation.
• 20:37
  Continues. Yeah, exactly.
• 20:38
  Yeah, that's what that's what he meant.
• 20:41
  The last one, I think this is a good one.
• 20:43
  Talking about wood, we've got Scott Wedgewood of the Colorado
• 20:47
  Avalanche. Who was talking about wood?
• 20:54
  Scott went to the Colorado Avalanche Blackwood it seems to
• 20:57
  be getting most of the starts in Westwood has only started three
• 21:01
  of the last 11 games. Is this the end for Wedgewood or
• 21:04
  do we expect it to go back to the 5050 it was earlier?
• 21:09
  I see this. Also, is Wedgwood a drop?
• 21:12
  I'm not dropping just yet, but I see this more as a 66%, thirty,
• 21:16
  3% type of situation. It's like 2 stars black when one
• 21:19
  start wedge. But that's kind of how I see it
• 21:20
  moving forward. But with the data that we have
• 21:23
  in the past, what it tells you about the situation is they
• 21:26
  won't shy away from going to one guy or the other if they're
• 21:29
  running hot or if one's playing significantly better than the
• 21:31
  other. But Blackwood is the main
• 21:33
  starter on this team. He's paid to be the main starter
• 21:35
  on this team. I think we've seen that as long
• 21:38
  as he doesn't falter, I think Wedgwood will be like the one be
• 21:41
  at best but with the potential to be A1A.
• 21:46
  Blackwood starts to suck so. But like, if Wedgwood's getting
• 21:51
  one out of every three starts, can you really afford to hold
• 21:54
  him on your roster? It's tough.
• 21:56
  It depends on your league of what your league settings are.
• 21:59
  With goalies it's so no contextual too.
• 22:02
  Like are you playing a points league?
• 22:03
  And a points league I'm for sure cutting because you need volume
• 22:06
  there right? And a cat's league.
• 22:08
  The quality of the one star could be enough to warrant his
• 22:11
  roster spot. His quality hasn't even been
• 22:13
  there. I'm gonna depends right still in
• 22:15
  Colorado, but the last few games have been lackluster because
• 22:17
  Colorado themselves have been in a little bit of a slum.
• 22:21
  But I think moving forward, I'll give him like a better than not
• 22:24
  chance to win most of the games that he's playing, given that
• 22:27
  he's on arguably the best team in the league.
• 22:29
  So to me, if I'm going to categories, league and my
• 22:33
  categories, you know, way on quality a lot.
• 22:36
  He's basically Walstead but more consistently good.
• 22:40
  So that's not the easiest player to own when you know you have
• 22:44
  guys on waivers that are pushing forward the spots.
• 22:46
  Like, would you drop them for Alice Lyon?
• 22:48
  I feel like at this point you do.
• 22:50
  Yes, the Lions beast. But what you smoke which would
• 22:54
  has way more name value though so I feel like if anything I'm
• 22:56
  trying to trade before I just drop right?
• 22:58
  Yeah, I mean, that's always the ideal situation.
• 23:01
  You never wanna just drop, but in a lot of leagues that's not
• 23:03
  possible. So assuming you can't trade, I
• 23:06
  think that I think you can drop them.
• 23:09
  I think, look, if you have the luxury to hold and hope that
• 23:11
  things get fixed in the in the near future, like if you're so
• 23:14
  doing so well in your league that you're like, you know, I'm
• 23:17
  not worried about the near future.
• 23:18
  And if you could come back and start getting more starts and
• 23:20
  times of playoffs, then then yeah, hold.
• 23:22
  But if you're fighting for a spot now, then I'm fine.
• 23:26
  I'm fine cutting. And I don't think I think it's
• 23:29
  unlikely you'll regret. It would you rather Stewart
• 23:31
  Skinner. Yeah.
• 23:33
  Yeah, would rather Phillip Grubauer.
• 23:36
  No, I think at this point the court seems to be taking the up.
• 23:40
  Yeah, I think, uh, I'm with Josh and all those answers too.
• 23:46
  All right, we get into some some mailbag questions.
• 23:49
  Those are some good hot topics though.
• 23:50
  Those are. Great look at you, so excited
• 23:52
  about the hot dog. Yeah, I know.
• 23:54
  I I had some good ones this week.
• 23:56
  A lot, a lot of topics that are hot.
• 23:57
  All right, let's get into some mailbag questions.
• 24:01
  Easy peasy on Discord asked who are some players with the
• 24:04
  biggest discrepancy in performance between their
• 24:06
  preseason projections and actual performance this season?
• 24:09
  What happened and why? Why was the players big dip or
• 24:12
  boom in performance unexpected? So I, I did some digging for us
• 24:17
  ahead of time. I went on the Yahoo rankings and
• 24:20
  obviously this is tailored to our league, yeah, settings.
• 24:23
  But I went on looking at their preseason rankings versus their
• 24:27
  current season rankings and I found the how many did I find?
• 24:31
  12345 biggest discrepancies that I could find of big name
• 24:35
  players. So let me let's go through them
• 24:37
  and we can say kind of what happened.
• 24:39
  So first, one of the biggest ones, Mika's advantage AD
• 24:43
  preseason ranking, 185 actual ranking in our league right now.
• 24:47
  29th Yeah, that's nuts. Now he's just been on a tear.
• 24:51
  And also the shorties does influence the rankings a lot
• 24:54
  like Arley has. 40. Points off wins.
• 24:56
  Yeah. So those those categories are
• 24:58
  let's say less common to most leagues out there, can be pretty
• 25:02
  valuable for ours, especially shortage like 1 Shorty can boost
• 25:04
  you up like 50. Right.
• 25:06
  It's an entire category on its own.
• 25:07
  But I mean, the fact is that he's also at like 1.4 points per
• 25:11
  game over the last month. So it's not like he hasn't been
• 25:13
  doing anything else. At what point are we like, where
• 25:17
  do we value him rest of the season?
• 25:19
  Like we think he's like insanely overperforming or just slightly
• 25:22
  overperforming. No, I think he'll hover around a
• 25:24
  point per game player. I think it really depends how
• 25:27
  the Rangers shake out in terms of who's still on this roster
• 25:29
  and who's not. But the main thing was advantage
• 25:32
  was we're going to give a detailed response on all these
• 25:34
  guys, but to manage it was like the team didn't want him on the
• 25:37
  roster last year, right? Then coming to this year, we
• 25:39
  didn't even know. We were like, OK, like, you
• 25:41
  know, Crider is gone, but life is taking a jump.
• 25:43
  Like who's gonna fill that role? He just kept his own role and
• 25:47
  was still one of the best players on the ice for this
• 25:48
  Rangers team. So, I mean, we were we were
• 25:51
  absolutely wrong as a manager. I think we said he was one of
• 25:53
  our, our biggest phase this season turns out to be, you
• 25:56
  know, one of our the biggest things we got wrong.
• 25:58
  So I think we did a good job of adjusting during the season.
• 26:01
  But going into the season, it was definitely a Big L.
• 26:05
  Yeah. Yeah, this is a mess, but they
• 26:07
  can't all be wins. Only most of the time, all
• 26:10
  right, Then we had Anton Lundell, Yahoo preseason rank
• 26:14
  282 versus his actual of 38. Again, I think this is heavily
• 26:18
  skewed by shorties and faceoff wins, but I mean, the biggest
• 26:21
  answer here is just the Barkov injury, right?
• 26:23
  Giving him a big much girl, we knew that we knew he had it in
• 26:25
  him and I think we talked about it before the season started
• 26:28
  like once that back off injury happened, we expected him to be
• 26:31
  the biggest beneficiary and that's how it worked out.
• 26:34
  Another one was Ryan O'Reilly 228 original rank versus 42.
• 26:38
  I mean, I don't think anyone saw that coming, right?
• 26:41
  He just been on an app that's crazy.
• 26:43
  Still a cell. I still think we all stand with
• 26:46
  that. And then two that were are doing
• 26:49
  way worse than the original ranking.
• 26:51
  But I think both of these are just because of injury.
• 26:53
  Actually, no. First one symmetry.
• 26:54
  William Nylander, he was preseason ranked thirteen and
• 26:57
  now he's ranked 215th, but he's been out for a ton of time.
• 27:00
  I think that's mainly the injury and Toronto being a lot worse
• 27:03
  than people expected. And then we had Brayden Points
• 27:06
  ranked 49th or preseason versus 351.
• 27:10
  I mean, he was garbage for most of the season.
• 27:12
  Then he was injured, then he was good for like a week and then he
• 27:15
  was injured again. So no surprise there.
• 27:17
  But yeah, so those are some of the biggest differences in
• 27:19
  rankings that we've seen. I will say before we go to the
• 27:22
  next question, the one name that popped out to me straight away
• 27:24
  as soon as you read the question, I didn't see what you
• 27:26
  had prepared, was Trevor Siegrist.
• 27:29
  I think yeah, he was probably like, you know, triple digit
• 27:32
  like in the hundreds of terms of like pre pre draft ranking.
• 27:35
  And I think he's done a good job at like at least holding some
• 27:37
  value this season, and that's certain points being really
• 27:40
  high. Do you guys, what do you draft
• 27:42
  secrets next year like do you think that you can do anything
• 27:44
  like getting like moving forward he can be this type of player
• 27:47
  like on. Philly, I mean, I think he'll be
• 27:48
  like a guy that's drafted in like, I mean, 300 players are
• 27:51
  drafted in our league. He could be player drafted
• 27:54
  number like 200. And I can see that being like
• 27:56
  understandable. Yeah.
• 27:58
  Yeah, I see him being around like a Nick Schmaltz type of
• 28:00
  player. Like yeah, exactly around the
• 28:02
  same spot. I'd rather Nick Schultz play,
• 28:04
  yes. Yeah, all right.
• 28:06
  JD Whale on Discord asked. Do you guys golf?
• 28:11
  I golfed once this last year for it was a tournament at work that
• 28:15
  I called for. But before then I had in golf
• 28:17
  for three years. I think during COVID I got into
• 28:20
  it a little bit. I was just like, oh, let me let
• 28:22
  me see what I can do here and actually had a lot of fun.
• 28:25
  Golf is really is really rewarding.
• 28:26
  It's really punishing. Feels like you fix one thing,
• 28:28
  five other things break, so you're constantly tweaking.
• 28:31
  But I like golf, moved to downtown Montreal and you can't.
• 28:37
  I like didn't bring my car with me.
• 28:39
  So it was hard to golf when you live in the heart of downtown
• 28:43
  and don't have a car. So.
• 28:45
  Yeah, I I just mini golf. Yeah.
• 28:49
  Uh, I, I don't know, I mean, like I, I, I suck at golf, but
• 28:53
  I've, I have golfed. Thinking we should.
• 28:55
  Golf, and we should golf. Jake, remember, he wants to
• 29:01
  wait. No, never mind.
• 29:02
  That wasn't us. That was my other girlfriend.
• 29:08
  Heard the story was. Yes, I was in I was in Vegas for
• 29:12
  for my 21st and top top Golf and I decided I was gonna Happy
• 29:17
  Gilmore the balls. But it turns out that's really
• 29:20
  hard to do. And so I just I kept swinging
• 29:23
  and missing and I think I swung like 30 times before I like hit
• 29:27
  the ball and then it was super underwhelming.
• 29:29
  And then like, I turned around and like everyone in the place
• 29:31
  starts clapping because I guess I had drawn a bit of a crowd for
• 29:34
  how bad are you? Actually wish I was there to
• 29:38
  watch that. Great, though.
• 29:40
  Yeah, you know, my brother, like he was playing.
• 29:43
  He he he was there and he was like playing and he was killing
• 29:47
  it. He just launching them, like all
• 29:48
  the way to the end every time, right.
• 29:49
  He doesn't really golf, but he's like gone to like, like driving
• 29:52
  range and stuff. And then like at the end of the
• 29:54
  game we had like a few leftover balls and he's like, you know
• 29:57
  what? I've been doing lefties.
• 29:58
  Hold on, let me try, right, Because I can't remember which
• 30:00
  way I usually hit, you know, And he switches to righty and starts
• 30:02
  like demolishing them even more. And he's like, oh, yeah, I
• 30:05
  forgot. I'm writing in golf.
• 30:06
  And I'm like, what do you feed all of us?
• 30:08
  Like playing like the wrong side?
• 30:10
  That is so huge. Killed it.
• 30:12
  That is like, absolutely. Do you know his brother Kevin?
• 30:16
  Like, you know that that exact exact sequence is the least
• 30:20
  surprising thing? That is so typical.
• 30:24
  Oh my God. Yeah, OK, Kara, each on Discord
• 30:28
  asked what Winter Olympic sport do you think you could
• 30:31
  successfully participate in if you tried?
• 30:34
  I'll go last on this one. That's all your answers.
• 30:37
  I'm like what? What did I even?
• 30:39
  What the fanfiction is this? If I had to pick 1 winter sport,
• 30:45
  honestly, I feel like I'd be really good at the skeleton.
• 30:48
  Like I don't know, I just feel like I got the the motion and
• 30:53
  how to how to distribute my weight and everything.
• 30:57
  I you know that I'm doing three 60s in the air or something.
• 31:00
  Not the good way. I would be scared bleep bless to
• 31:05
  do this. I didn't even know what it was,
• 31:07
  so I. Just felt, really, but.
• 31:09
  Yeah, some say delusion. Is easier, but the skeleton is
• 31:12
  scarier for sure. I don't even know like I I like
• 31:16
  that is way actually. I'd be so good at curling.
• 31:20
  I've always wanted to play curling honestly, would I?
• 31:24
  I'm the one that's I'm the one that's driving the what it is.
• 31:28
  What do they call the curl? Is it?
• 31:29
  That's not the curl. Well, the.
• 31:31
  It's like a. The curling disc.
• 31:35
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 31:37
  I'm forgetting. Like the one pushing the rock.
• 31:40
  Yeah. Is it the?
• 31:40
  Rock. Yeah, that's.
• 31:42
  Called. Not to be mistaken with Dwayne.
• 31:46
  But yeah, he does not throw Dwayne the Rock Johnson.
• 31:51
  He does curl, just not the same type of curl.
• 31:54
  Yeah, yeah, No, I would actually be pretty fun.
• 31:59
  Anger management. Curling team.
• 32:01
  Sick. I mean like, what's Nordic?
• 32:05
  Combined mean Janky literally thinks he could stop McDavid, so
• 32:08
  he should just. Be nuts like hockey, but I feel
• 32:10
  like OHT Nordic combined is pretty cool.
• 32:13
  I don't know I'd be so scared to do this though.
• 32:15
  It's like the one where they like they ski, but then they
• 32:17
  like fly through the air for a little bit and they.
• 32:20
  Have just have to like they hold it and then they went as.
• 32:23
  Far as possible that yeah, like they're skis are.
• 32:25
  Like that, Like that, to be honest.
• 32:27
  No, no, I'm not aerodynamic enough.
• 32:30
  If I shave my head and shoot like 100 miles an hour, that's
• 32:33
  different story. Darren rather be sick at that
• 32:36
  though. You'd be so good.
• 32:38
  OK. I feel like I feel like hockey
• 32:42
  kinda has to be my answer if I'm being serious.
• 32:45
  But I'd also like to try like the moguls skiing.
• 32:51
  I feel like that. Would be cool, I already tore
• 32:52
  one ACL counter another. Yeah, that's true.
• 32:55
  That's. Probably have two for you.
• 32:58
  Got the spare one. Here's what I do.
• 33:01
  OK, this is pretty put a lot of thought into this.
• 33:03
  How I I took it more is how how can I qualify for the Olympics
• 33:07
  and here's what I do. OK, first of all, I can only
• 33:09
  pull this off if I wasn't married, but here's what I do.
• 33:11
  First I would find someone in the small Southeast Asian nation
• 33:15
  of Timor Leste. They got independence in 2002,
• 33:18
  only 1.34 mil population. OK, I would marry them, get
• 33:21
  citizenship through marriage. OK, let's just step one then I'd
• 33:25
  enter a bunch of qualifying events for cross country skiing,
• 33:28
  accumulate enough points to qualify for the Olympics and
• 33:30
  qualify through the universality slots.
• 33:32
  That, essentially is special. Lots for nations that haven't
• 33:35
  had a Winter Olympian for that sport yet.
• 33:38
  OK, next thing you know, I'm in the Olympic Village getting lit
• 33:41
  with all the NHL players. Do I go too hard and forget to
• 33:44
  show up to my event? Maybe.
• 33:45
  But do I have memories that will last a lifetime?
• 33:47
  You bet. I I'm gonna be watching the next
• 33:52
  Winter Olympics being like, who is the person from Timor Leste
• 33:55
  that Josh is going to replace your future and how can he get a
• 34:00
  universality slot? Ohhhhh my God there was no OK.
• 34:05
  First of all thank you for letting us go first cause
• 34:08
  following that would have been impossible.
• 34:11
  Second of all thank you for teaching me what Timor Leste
• 34:13
  was. And no offence to all the two
• 34:15
  more lesbian fans, what a story you have to be in in the fan
• 34:23
  fiction section. I don't know, like honestly, too
• 34:26
  creative. You should check with Eva Josh,
• 34:28
  you might. Let you do this even though
• 34:30
  you're married. I read this, I told her this
• 34:33
  idea and she was like not impressed.
• 34:37
  OK, well, listen. She was like, she was like, I
• 34:40
  don't even think she was like, I don't think you'd qualify even
• 34:42
  with all that. She's like, have you ever cross
• 34:45
  country ski? Like it's not easy.
• 34:46
  And I'm like, yeah, no, it's not because it's easy.
• 34:48
  It's because there's so many slots, like 60 plus people who
• 34:51
  can do it. So yeah, I don't think I'd do
• 34:54
  well. I thought, like I said, I
• 34:55
  probably wouldn't show up for the event, but at least I'd be
• 34:57
  in the Olympic Village. OK.
• 35:03
  Yeah, well anyways, let's move wild.
• 35:07
  My God, alright. OK Chris Carey must be on
• 35:12
  discord asked would it be insane to trade it Makar for Quinn
• 35:16
  Hughes in a keeper league? I'm a Minnesota Homer and would
• 35:19
  love to have him on my team and my car has been brutal as of
• 35:21
  late. Do you think if you do Queen
• 35:25
  Hughes plus, it's like. I'm still taking my car forever.
• 35:30
  Quinn Hughes and Batherson from a car.
• 35:32
  Who do you take? Alright, Bathurst is involved
• 35:34
  that we got the actual question. Here.
• 35:40
  But I mean, one for one, I'm always taking my car no matter
• 35:42
  what. It just feels like no matter how
• 35:44
  good the situation in Minnesota can be, it's never going to be
• 35:46
  as good as the situation in in in Colorado.
• 35:50
  And Makar is just that guy that we talked about, Charlie Coyle
• 35:52
  not being that guy. I'm a car.
• 35:53
  Is that guy Quinn Hughes? Plus, then it's a conversation,
• 35:58
  obviously. Quinn Hughes Batherson.
• 35:59
  I think that's actually not a bad offer.
• 36:01
  Animal Care and plus Batherson. No other way around.
• 36:04
  He's changing. He's changing Makar for Quinn
• 36:07
  Hughes. Yeah, you're right.
• 36:09
  You're right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 36:11
  But OK. What about this, though?
• 36:12
  I mean, this wasn't part of the question, but this was for
• 36:14
  keepers. What about for just this year?
• 36:17
  No, I'm taking my card this year to end the season and I'm taking
• 36:19
  my card next year and the year after that.
• 36:22
  OK, because this year, at least lately it's been way Quinn has
• 36:25
  been way better. I know, I know, but I'm still
• 36:27
  betting on the car. He's just we, we have too much
• 36:29
  of a sample size to know that. Like what he can do on the ice
• 36:32
  is just what no other fantasy defenseman can do.
• 36:35
  And I know clean user has been hot AF, but I don't expect it to
• 36:40
  stay at this level forever. Quinn Hughes can still be a top
• 36:42
  three defenseman. He was already a top three
• 36:44
  defenseman. But my car is just #1 for me.
• 36:48
  Yeah, yeah. Like if you if you if you look
• 36:51
  at the way that the whole Colorado team has been
• 36:54
  performing as of late, they've been extremely cold compared to
• 36:57
  the way they started. And on the season, Makar is
• 37:01
  still on pace for like over 85 points.
• 37:04
  So he's done incredible things in this career, getting 90 plus
• 37:08
  points as a defenseman a few times.
• 37:10
  And I expect that to continue. That's that's what elite
• 37:13
  defensemen do. It's very difficult to get like
• 37:15
  100 to 105 plus points of defensemen.
• 37:17
  I can't remember the last time that happened.
• 37:19
  So to me, his pace right now is what you can expect from him.
• 37:24
  It's just been cold as of late. So it'll even out and it'll hit
• 37:26
  the 90 to 95. And I mean, I know it's been
• 37:30
  really bad, but it's just because he started off so
• 37:32
  insanely strong. Like this is what we talk about
• 37:34
  regressing towards the mean. It was he was due for some
• 37:37
  negative regression. Now he's due for slight positive
• 37:39
  regression. I would take my car as well.
• 37:42
  What about you, Josh? Yeah.
• 37:44
  I mean, you gotta go Makar. I think if you can get Quinn use
• 37:47
  Plus, I think that we actually talked about this in the
• 37:50
  offseason. I looked at last year's stats
• 37:52
  when I was kind of like doing some research before and I was
• 37:55
  like, why is why is Macara the unanimous #1 when Quinn Hughes
• 37:59
  was putting up like almost like super close stats to Macar,
• 38:02
  right? We had we had this entire
• 38:04
  discussion and in the end it was like just the surrounding cast
• 38:07
  was a big thing, right? But now Queen, who's got traded,
• 38:10
  like we, I think we do have to reevaluate.
• 38:12
  He's been killing it. I think the gap is a lot smaller
• 38:15
  than people give credit for. I think at the end of the day,
• 38:18
  nothing's going to be playing with McKinnon.
• 38:19
  So I I don't disagree with that, but like going from this
• 38:22
  Vancouver team that's absolutely dog awful to this Minnesota team
• 38:26
  playing with like Krill Kaprizov, you know, like Boldy,
• 38:29
  Eric Snack, all that. Like this is that's a big
• 38:32
  change. So I don't think the gap is as
• 38:34
  massive as it has been in the past.
• 38:37
  So I don't think it's most insane thing in a one for one.
• 38:40
  I'm still taking the car, but if you can use that name value and
• 38:43
  get Quinn Hughes plus plus a Batherson, I'm taking that.
• 38:46
  Yeah, I I think yeah, with the plus I, I do agree.
• 38:49
  I'm I'm happy with that return. I have another quick addition to
• 38:52
  this. Would you rather rest this
• 38:54
  season Quinn Hughes or disparity Code Kanami?
• 38:59
  I would rather pretend that that draft had never happened.
• 39:02
  Doesn't. Have time.
• 39:02
  It's actually abysmal. Like it's so sad that this is
• 39:07
  what happened. At the end of the day, horrible.
• 39:10
  It LED us to where we are now and the haves are killing it.
• 39:12
  But yeah. But yeah, it's.
• 39:15
  But would you rather Quinn Hughes or cockamamie plus Lane
• 39:18
  Hudson? Still going.
• 39:22
  But it made you think. Did it though.
• 39:24
  Yeah, it's a lot closer. Would you rather quite huge plus
• 39:28
  Lane Hudson or Code Kanami? Kanami easy.
• 39:32
  Yeah. The thing is, you have to draft
• 39:33
  for positional need. Yeah, alright, let's move on.
• 39:37
  Joshua Furon on Discord asked. You're the commissioner for the
• 39:40
  day. Gary cannot undo your actions.
• 39:42
  What one change would you make to the league?
• 39:45
  Was who's Gary? Gary Bettman thought, I thought
• 39:49
  you were talking about like, fantasy hockey, you know, it was
• 39:52
  like. During the league.
• 39:55
  Gary, your rival in Pokémon Gary and early.
• 40:00
  Gary the Snail logic. You wouldn't get that SpongeBob
• 40:04
  reference. Yeah, I know who that is.
• 40:08
  Like, yeah, I mean, what that is, I suppose big question
• 40:13
  though. I mean, I've got my answer
• 40:15
  locked and loaded. I could say it's, yeah.
• 40:17
  But is it gonna be like, are you bringing in that country?
• 40:20
  Again, I think people are less they to the League 30. 2 sheep.
• 40:24
  Must have someone from my nation.
• 40:28
  Actually my answer is way less ridiculous.
• 40:30
  It's very serious actually. As as I'm known for, my favorite
• 40:33
  thing is when emergency backup goalies have to enter the game.
• 40:37
  So what I would do is get rid of the position of backup goalie
• 40:40
  and say that anytime you want to switch goalies mid game, whether
• 40:43
  it's due to injury or poor play, you have to put in an ebug who's
• 40:46
  just a regular guy. That's fun.
• 40:49
  That's fun and. Then you can still you can still
• 40:51
  hold. You can still hold the goodies
• 40:53
  on your roster. Breakaway.
• 40:55
  Yeah, exactly. Like Jake could end up against
• 40:57
  McDavid in this situation. Like you still hold 2 goalies
• 40:59
  like in like on your roster, but you can only dress one per game.
• 41:04
  And like if that guy gets injured or like you want to pull
• 41:06
  him, you have to pull up like, you know all those.
• 41:08
  You have to pull up the Zamboni driver or the accountant, you
• 41:11
  know, like all those over the years, like the E bugs.
• 41:13
  It's just it's the best. So I think that would be my
• 41:15
  move. Mine were way more realistic and
• 41:18
  I guess boring but I would love. I mean the main thing for me is
• 41:23
  I would love playoff receding. I think give me give me just one
• 41:27
  to 16 or whatever, or even 1 to 8, I'll be happy.
• 41:31
  I think that's just like everybody kind of wants that at
• 41:33
  this point given the mattress we've had over the last years.
• 41:36
  I also think it would be really fun is if short handed goals
• 41:40
  like remove the power play that would be.
• 41:43
  Really. Yeah.
• 41:44
  I know that's, I think they've, they've done that in the PWL.
• 41:47
  I'm I'm not sure that's cool, but I think it's a cool rule.
• 41:52
  Short you'll get LA versus Edmonton for the 7th year in a
• 41:55
  row and you will like it. Yeah, seriously.
• 41:58
  Yeah, Short handed goals. You're saying that the founding
• 42:01
  team scores then? The.
• 42:02
  Patches yeah, It's like they killed the penalty.
• 42:04
  Wow. Interesting.
• 42:06
  I mean, that's been a topic of conversation over the last
• 42:08
  couple of years. Yeah, I have a I have a crazy
• 42:11
  idea, but it's bad. But it's fun.
• 42:13
  So. Over.
• 42:15
  Time would be mean. 10 minutes from minutes 7:50, it's 5 on
• 42:20
  586. It's 4 on 4/6 to four.
• 42:25
  It's three on three. OK, four to two.
• 42:28
  It's two on two and then two to. Zero goal is Duke it out.
• 42:32
  Actually be insane. Imagine one-on-one like it's
• 42:35
  like, I mean the game tonight, right, San Jose, Chicago, yeah,
• 42:38
  like celebrity versus Bedard, one view one yeah, McKinnon
• 42:41
  versus McDavid like Oh my God, that would be so hype.
• 42:44
  And then teams like cancel like, you know, like the annoying
• 42:48
  overtime when they just like delay the game, right.
• 42:50
  So like some teams won't will be incentivized like not to do that
• 42:52
  because they like, OK, we don't have McDavid, so we probably
• 42:55
  don't want this to get to 1, you know, like we have to finish
• 42:58
  this. Well, it's like 5V5 or.
• 43:00
  Like I find like the three on three is fun to watch, but it's
• 43:02
  just so strategic and kind of like sometimes like, yeah, back
• 43:05
  and forth a little place doing all alongside thing.
• 43:08
  I think that this would kind of be like, let's get to the point
• 43:10
  because. Yeah.
• 43:12
  Yeah, that would be so fun. I mean, realistically, like the
• 43:15
  way I would fix three on three is first of all, I agree with
• 43:17
  making it longer at like 10 minutes, just get rid of to make
• 43:20
  less chance of shootout. And then you should just not be
• 43:22
  allowed to move it back behind the red line once you've crossed
• 43:25
  it. I love that.
• 43:27
  That should be like, like an easy rule.
• 43:28
  You know, like it's like that's a basketball rule, right?
• 43:31
  You can't like go back like the half court, whatever.
• 43:33
  Yeah, backcourt violation. Yeah, exactly.
• 43:36
  Yeah, exactly. That's that should be what it
• 43:37
  is. I mean, maybe I'll give the
• 43:39
  other team though. Maybe it's just a face off or
• 43:40
  something. But yeah.
• 43:42
  But yeah, so that's what I think.
• 43:43
  There's a lot of sense, actually.
• 43:45
  That's the worst it takes, the whole excitement when it's all
• 43:48
  strategic. It's like teams against Edmonton
• 43:50
  do that right, They get possession like let's just wait
• 43:52
  out until McDavid and Dries out have to get off the ice and then
• 43:54
  let's actually try and play. So yeah, not that it works for
• 43:57
  them because they're so good, but but yeah, alright, all great
• 44:00
  ideas. Gary.
• 44:01
  I hope you're listening. These were especially my
• 44:03
  emergency backup goalie one and the team are last day rule.
• 44:06
  Anyways, Jodari on Discord asked would you rather get absolutely
• 44:11
  wrecked by your least favorite hockey player, Matthew Olivier
• 44:14
  every week you play them for the rest of their career, or loose 3
• 44:18
  consecutive fantasy hockey championships by one category or
• 44:21
  one point? I heard lose 3 consecutive
• 44:23
  hockey championships and I went give me whatever else.
• 44:25
  Is on that list Kevin's like. I love both of these, literally.
• 44:30
  Already happened to me, might as well knock one out.
• 44:35
  Yeah, Olivia wants to do to be for the rest of my life if he
• 44:39
  could be doing that to me in any matchup.
• 44:41
  But I could still win the championship, you know?
• 44:43
  Yeah, definitely that one. Also just drafted the guy then
• 44:46
  or trade for him and then he can't.
• 44:47
  Do it to you. I think the question implies
• 44:48
  that he can do that to me. Or he when he's on your team,
• 44:51
  you have to hold them and then he's just getting straight zeros
• 44:54
  when he's on your team. That sucks.
• 44:57
  Yeah. Every week because you're always
• 45:00
  facing him. Oht my.
• 45:01
  God, I'm also taking whatever Olivier wants to do to Kevin
• 45:06
  Championships. I do not like losing in the
• 45:11
  finals sucks. Like it's horrible and it
• 45:14
  happened twice and then, you know, whatever.
• 45:20
  And then I started a podcast with the guy, so not that.
• 45:24
  Yeah. Josh, how about you?
• 45:26
  Sing in the finals. That'll be.
• 45:27
  That'll be crazy. OK, go to the next point.
• 45:33
  Yeah, let's go to the next one. No one?
• 45:37
  Discord asked. No one is going to ask what are
• 45:41
  the different tiers of the Bangor Management Fantasy league
• 45:43
  going to be called next year. For example, he said, Apples and
• 45:46
  Genos has their leagues named after different 0G heroes.
• 45:50
  I could see us doing our classic banger management players.
• 45:52
  Like, we can have a league called like after former forward
• 45:55
  Jackson Lacombe, we can have Gabe Bachardy, Jonathan Jonathan
• 45:59
  Miller. True, the Talisman Miller yeah,
• 46:02
  that could be actually that's we have to start thinking about
• 46:05
  that, but. I like that.
• 46:09
  I think that's fun. But the.
• 46:10
  Yeah, wow, that's a tongue twister.
• 46:12
  The thesaurus is also a good one.
• 46:15
  You know what I mean? Like dog, awful vulgarity does
• 46:18
  count. Yeah, You know what I mean?
• 46:20
  Diamond in the haystack profile, focht, splitting feathers, lot
• 46:25
  of these. Like I feel like that's fun.
• 46:27
  But that's a little Feathers league.
• 46:30
  Yeah, we have to come up with how many leagues we have, but I
• 46:33
  think we're onto something here. Yeah I like it alright.
• 46:39
  Skyline 6426 on discord asked is Landeskog worth a hold for
• 46:44
  playoffs in first place? So getting a buy first round
• 46:47
  most likely playoffs from your week 22 and 23.
• 46:50
  He plays seven games and has been getting face off wins
• 46:52
  lately. I think it's worth a hold.
• 46:55
  Yeah, if you're in first it's deep enough league like I'm
• 46:58
  assuming you have a pretty loaded team.
• 46:59
  Otherwise, if it becomes a question mark, I.
• 47:02
  I definitely don't think he's a lock, but uh, I don't know
• 47:06
  when's he supposed to come back? He should be playing in the
• 47:09
  Olympics. So he will be back after the
• 47:11
  Olympic break. I mean, I think that he has high
• 47:14
  upside if he can be on power play one, we saw he can be
• 47:17
  productive. I don't think it's gonna be a
• 47:19
  power play 1 all season. I think it's gonna be back and
• 47:21
  forth like it is with all these Colorado guy like fringe
• 47:23
  properly one guys. So if you have to have like a
• 47:26
  dead roster spot and you're in any shape or form in danger of
• 47:29
  losing first place, I would not hold him.
• 47:31
  If it's a free stash on IR, you have nothing to lose unless you
• 47:34
  have better IR stashes available.
• 47:36
  But I don't have the highest expectations from rest of the
• 47:39
  season. But I think he has upside.
• 47:41
  I'm just gonna come play time. If he's aligned one power play
• 47:44
  one, he's gonna be super valuable to have on your on your
• 47:47
  fantasy team. So if you have the opportunity
• 47:49
  to stash on your IR for free or you pick them up for a post
• 47:52
  dialytic break, I would really like doing that and seeing how
• 47:55
  it shakes out. He's the type of player that I
• 47:57
  like slightly better than most waiver wire options given the
• 48:01
  potential he has with who he's playing with.
• 48:03
  And we saw what he was even doing with the winger
• 48:06
  eligibility plus the face off wins earlier this year.
• 48:08
  I think that would be integral to the success of your fantasy
• 48:11
  teams if you play elite that has those categories.
• 48:14
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 48:16
  OK mate on discord asked what can you tell me about Matthew
• 48:20
  Noyes home and away splits. So I looked into this because I
• 48:24
  I first I couldn't tell you much, but I looked into it and
• 48:26
  it's actually kind of crazy. OK here Matthew is at home 33
• 48:30
  points in 29 games. Matthew is away 11 points in 23
• 48:34
  games. That's over a point per game at
• 48:35
  home and less than .5 points per game away.
• 48:39
  And then I looked into on to see like you know, is this a Leafs
• 48:42
  problem in general? Is this Matthew Nice problem?
• 48:44
  The Leafs as a whole, their home records 16 at 9:00 and 6:00 away
• 48:48
  record is 912 and 3. So it seems to be a lease
• 48:52
  problem as a whole, not just a Matthew nice problem.
• 48:54
  And usually those things kind of go hand in hand.
• 48:56
  So I mean, look, the only way that I would use this
• 48:59
  information to your advantage is if you're trying to make a sit
• 49:03
  start decision with noise and you see he's at home versus
• 49:05
  away, I would let that you know, be a factor in your decision.
• 49:09
  Other than that, it's more just an interesting tidbit I think.
• 49:14
  Yeah, I mean, it's it's been disappointing for eyes overall.
• 49:19
  Not now we know why. Yeah, exactly happens.
• 49:22
  Games are really. Yeah, exactly.
• 49:24
  Yeah. They should play them all at
• 49:25
  home. Yeah, it's.
• 49:26
  Why? Simple thing?
• 49:27
  Why haven't they thought of that?
• 49:29
  Yeah, alright, Pantaloni on Discord asked where do you guys
• 49:32
  stand in your league of record, Where in the standings and how
• 49:35
  are you feeling about your team's chances?
• 49:37
  So standings after last week I am in fourth, Jakies in 5th and
• 49:43
  Kevin's in 6th. Personally for me I think that
• 49:47
  my biggest weakness all year consistently has been
• 49:49
  goaltending. I even when I win weeks I barely
• 49:52
  win them just because my goalies have been so dog awful.
• 49:55
  If I can figure out my goaltending, I think I have a
• 49:57
  solid chance, but if I can't then I don't think.
• 50:00
  I don't see myself going far, but I just picked up Alex Lyons,
• 50:02
  so I hope. The last league winner?
• 50:05
  Some say Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I so I actually
• 50:11
  think that I have a very solid bangers team and my goalies
• 50:15
  were, you know, I went zero G and now it doesn't seem like
• 50:17
  they're a big problem. I just don't get the points that
• 50:21
  I think I should. I feel like my shooting
• 50:23
  percentage as my team shooting percentage is probably the worst
• 50:25
  in the league and with like very elite shots on goal, for
• 50:28
  instance. And then I don't do so well.
• 50:30
  My face offs are not competitive, which is nice, but
• 50:32
  I'm definitely not elite there. And then hits and blocks.
• 50:35
  I'm always like, I'm always competing against my opponent so
• 50:38
  I don't get blown out in any of those categories.
• 50:40
  My power play points are weak and my points are not very good.
• 50:43
  So come playoff time, I'm hoping to pick up like another solid
• 50:47
  points guy. I'm holding baby Fabian
• 50:50
  Zetterlund. Just just, you know, like a
• 50:52
  little wide broken for some magic, but that's probably going
• 50:56
  to change soon. So yeah, I mean, to me, I don't
• 50:59
  even really know how to fix it other than to make a swap,
• 51:02
  potentially giving up some bangers for some points.
• 51:05
  It's almost like we've been saying that you need to, you
• 51:08
  know? You know, try.
• 51:08
  To trade for some people you want guys.
• 51:10
  Jackie I. I'm always happy to trade.
• 51:13
  Yes. I mean, I actually have a decent
• 51:17
  mix of power play one guys. It's just that there's like, I
• 51:21
  just, I don't know, there, it's not elite.
• 51:23
  That's not where somewhere my team thrives.
• 51:25
  I think anymore produces don't ask.
• 51:27
  Yeah, actually missing, yeah. You don't even have the
• 51:30
  protests. Not yet.
• 51:32
  I don't know, but we're we have 4 points separating us in the
• 51:36
  standings like. We are all in that case.
• 51:38
  I'm four points behind Josh, one point behind Jakey, but honestly
• 51:44
  it feels like every week it's an uphill battle for my team, which
• 51:46
  is not fun. I've been having really
• 51:49
  difficult matchups against bad teams, like they just turn up
• 51:52
  against me and now I'm playing, going through the gauntlet,
• 51:54
  finishing the season, playing the first, second and third team
• 51:57
  in the standings, top 8 make the playoffs.
• 52:00
  So I think honest, it's gonna be really close.
• 52:01
  There's a very sincere chance I do not make the playoffs.
• 52:05
  I will throw it back to earlier, earlier this season when I had
• 52:09
  like 3 dead roster spots for like 5 weeks and just was like,
• 52:12
  I'll just make up for it later in the season.
• 52:14
  Lo and behold, this is the most competitive season in our league
• 52:16
  has ever had, so you can't really make up for it.
• 52:19
  Big regrets on my end. Like there was a week I lost 14
• 52:21
  zero because I was just like holding Zach Benson on IR
• 52:26
  because I mean, I already had so many other injuries.
• 52:28
  So that really make a difference.
• 52:29
  But it's gonna be tough. But I think I have an elite
• 52:32
  elite hits team. Elite say my shots are above
• 52:36
  average. I'm really good at power play
• 52:38
  points and I think my points are very solid too.
• 52:41
  My goal tending is super, super secure.
• 52:43
  Like I'm just killing me every week.
• 52:46
  I have to figure that out. Either I'm dropping him or I'm
• 52:48
  picking up somebody else. Thing is, you know who's got
• 52:51
  goalies to spare that would love to?
• 52:52
  Trade. I'm never gonna give you one of
• 52:53
  my starters for a goalie, though, when I know they're
• 52:55
  gonna drop a goalie. No one wants to trade with me.
• 52:59
  It's. Crazy.
• 52:59
  Yeah, I also like this. Just San Jose has the second
• 53:03
  easiest strength of schedule rest of season.
• 53:04
  Like at some point the matchups are gonna get better.
• 53:07
  So I just really have to hold on until that happens because our
• 53:09
  goalies are scarce. Like you just picked up the last
• 53:11
  league. What am I supposed to do now?
• 53:13
  Trade me. Who am I gonna give you for a
• 53:17
  guy that can just get bumped back down anyways, That's that's
• 53:20
  the. Look, on the topic of no one
• 53:23
  wanting to trade with me, Joshua, if you're on Discord
• 53:26
  asked how do you feel about the level of consolidation on Josh's
• 53:29
  team? Is there a limit to how much
• 53:30
  consolidation is actually good? I mean, as the you have to Josh,
• 53:36
  I love it. And honestly, I would
• 53:38
  consolidate even more if people would trade with me.
• 53:39
  Really. I'm still I'm still constantly
• 53:41
  finding guys I wanna pick up, and having the flexibility to do
• 53:43
  that without worrying about shipping someone valuable is
• 53:46
  super nice. Yeah.
• 53:47
  You're talking about if you did consolidation now you would not
• 53:50
  be giving anything of substance. So obviously I'd love to consult
• 53:53
  it in that way, right? Well, I mean, yeah, I've
• 53:56
  consolidated so much that I don't really make more trades
• 53:58
  because I don't have anyone other than the top tier guys.
• 54:01
  I'm saying like if I had the chance, like even like all
• 54:04
  consolidations, like what I keep doing it.
• 54:06
  Yeah, absolutely. I think that look, I currently
• 54:09
  have three guys injured and I'm hoping when the Olympic break
• 54:12
  ends, they're all coming back. I don't have in my mind, I don't
• 54:14
  have three guys that I'm super happy to drop.
• 54:17
  I've got I think like 2 easy drops, but then I've got a
• 54:19
  decision to make. So like the fact that I'm still
• 54:22
  have guys that I'm like gonna have to drop that I don't really
• 54:25
  want to after how much I've consolidated just shows that
• 54:28
  like if I hadn't, you know, I would have wasted a lot of value
• 54:31
  over the course of the season or there's pickups I wouldn't have
• 54:33
  been able to make. So I just think consolidation is
• 54:35
  always, always the answer as long as it's done correctly,
• 54:38
  like consolidating for the top, you know, four of the top six
• 54:41
  players in the league. So that definitely.
• 54:43
  Helps I mean as your volatility obviously, right And I think you
• 54:46
  saw it when you played, when you played my team, like my team
• 54:48
  didn't do anything crazy, but like it could have been playoff
• 54:51
  matchup and they could have gone the opposite way, right so.
• 54:53
  Yeah, no, I'm definitely putting all my eggs in 4 baskets, but
• 54:58
  those baskets are McDavid recital Pastor Nathan Celebrity.
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  So like, you know, a certain point, you just have to trust
• 55:04
  that the elite players are going to be in the weeks that matter
• 55:06
  to you. But yes, if ever Edmonton has a
• 55:09
  bad week I'm pretty much have no chance of winning that.
• 55:11
  Yeah, I mean the the odds of them having a bad week are like
• 55:14
  it's more like if they have a bad game, they can still make up
• 55:17
  like with two other. Games.
• 55:18
  That's it. I mean, I think it was last week
• 55:20
  McDavid went two straight games with zeros and then he got a 5
• 55:22
  point game. So he still averaged over a
• 55:24
  point per game on the week. It's rare that over a whole
• 55:27
  week, these guys. Are almost 2 points per game.
• 55:29
  For the week, yeah, exactly. After putting up zeros the first
• 55:33
  six days, yeah. Like, I don't know what you guys
• 55:36
  think of what I've been doing. I mean, I love consolidating.
• 55:39
  I just do it on a smaller scale than you and.
• 55:43
  Yeah, I think, I think maybe maybe it was like one too many.
• 55:48
  But you ended up being able to flip Matthews with Celebrity, so
• 55:51
  it worked out. That's not the deal breaker, but
• 55:56
  I I forget, I forget what it was.
• 56:00
  I think it was the trade for Matthews that maybe kind of put
• 56:04
  you over the edge of like, OK, this one was slightly too much.
• 56:08
  What was it and that? Was Robinson was pretty solid.
• 56:11
  I gave Robertson geeky and cider, and I got Matthews,
• 56:15
  Erickson, Eck and Barzel. Kino, that's actually way better
• 56:18
  than I thought it was. Maybe it was the posture knock
• 56:20
  that one. Another one maybe I gave I got
• 56:23
  pasta, Lindholm and Feldar and I gave that was I probably gave
• 56:28
  too much. I gave Crosby, Erickson, Eck and
• 56:30
  Barzel who are just. A question.
• 56:31
  Don't think that's too much. I mean, it's doesn't seem that
• 56:35
  doesn't. Actually.
• 56:36
  And Lincoln was still. Good, yeah.
• 56:39
  And you open up a streaming spot.
• 56:40
  Do you think in hindsight you would have rather kept like the
• 56:43
  players or? Three Nah, fast as a beast and
• 56:46
  pass on both have like the best pleasure also so I'm kind of
• 56:49
  Eldar like actually helped my goalies for awhile so.
• 56:52
  Yeah, listen. I don't know if I have no
• 56:54
  regrets. None of these trees were bad for
• 56:57
  you. I feel like they were all wins.
• 57:00
  Honestly. It's just like it was it like
• 57:03
  maybe like what I have done it. I think I would have stopped at
• 57:06
  11 less and then may have like not worked out, but you're now
• 57:11
  poised to like one or two pickups and you become
• 57:14
  unsolvable. Like if you look at the hard
• 57:16
  thing is how competitive our league is this year with
• 57:19
  pickups. So every time there's a good
• 57:20
  one, like it's really hard to like be the one to grab them.
• 57:23
  So I will say that for the consolidation, you have to be
• 57:25
  really on top of things and you have to, you can't miss, you
• 57:28
  know, there's a lot more pressure on every pickup.
• 57:30
  But I feel it, you know, like we have 3 pickups a week and if I
• 57:33
  waste a pick up, I'm like my teams like recovering for like a
• 57:37
  week or two, you know, like so there's definitely a lot of
• 57:39
  pressure on every single pickup you make.
• 57:41
  Yeah, but the upside is really big.
• 57:44
  Yeah, and it gives you a lot of flexibility.
• 57:47
  Yes. And it's fun.
• 57:48
  And you did it early on enough that like I feel like you still
• 57:51
  had months. Like if you were to consolidate
• 57:53
  now, less than a month until the trade deadline, then you know, I
• 57:57
  feel. Like it wouldn't be as another
• 57:58
  big opportunity for me is this trade deadline.
• 58:01
  So I have plenty of empty roster spots that I could fill with the
• 58:06
  interesting trade side effects. So.
• 58:09
  So we'll see what happens. Understand what to pick up the
• 58:12
  goalie you drop. It's probably gonna be dark,
• 58:16
  yeah. Calgary Lion you'll.
• 58:18
  See. No, he's, he's unreal.
• 58:20
  I can't believe I managed to get him.
• 58:21
  It's nuts. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 58:23
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• 58:34
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• 58:40
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• 58:42
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• 58:45
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• 58:49
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• 59:11
  I don't think I missed anything. Yeah.
• 59:14
  That's crazy good. Snipe it every time.
• 59:16
  It's like I can't do it. I've tried and it's, you know,
• 59:20
  the whole thing. Like I'm not, I'm not that guy.
• 59:24
  Trust me, I'm not that guy. But you are the guy to take it
• 59:30
  away, Ernie. I do know, I do say that.
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