Latest / Who Did What Now With Katie Charlwood / 006 - Grainne Mhaol - Irish Pirate Queen
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- 0:00Speaker 1: You're listening to an air wave media podcast. Hi, there,
- 0:20Speaker 1: tattoo and we'll go by follow you us. Welcome to
- 0:23Speaker 1: Who Did What Now? The history podcast with me You're inconsistent?
- 0:26Speaker 1: Host Katie Charlewood, terrible linguist and reader of books. Disclaimer,
- 0:32Speaker 1: this is not your history class. If it was, I'm
- 0:35Speaker 1: not entirely sure you'd actually passed the junior sert. But
- 0:37Speaker 1: there we go. Let's get into it, shall we. As
- 0:41Speaker 1: anyone who knows me knows I love pirates. I love
- 0:45Speaker 1: me a buccaneer or two I do. There are there
- 0:50Speaker 1: are many parrots I want to discuss, from besties Anne,
- 0:53Speaker 1: Bonnie and Mary Read, to Jinshi, to even that demon
- 0:57Speaker 1: of the sea himself, Blackbeard. But I thought i'd start
- 1:01Speaker 1: with one a little closer to home, with the Irish
- 1:04Speaker 1: pirate queen Gronia Wheel. Where to start, I mean, but
- 1:13Speaker 1: the beginning was probably like a good place. Although I
- 1:16Speaker 1: would like to apologize in advance for any mins a worry,
- 1:21Speaker 1: for any mispronunciations and bittery of names. I'm doing my best,
- 1:27Speaker 1: and I'm going to partially blame the accent because that
- 1:30Speaker 1: might work. So Granny Namalia was born around fifteen thirty
- 1:38Speaker 1: when to put this into perspective and get a wee
- 1:40Speaker 1: bit of a timeline. Henry eighth was still married to
- 1:43Speaker 1: Catherine of Aragon but was currently chasing after Anglin. Oh
- 1:49Speaker 1: and he had the title of King of England and
- 1:52Speaker 1: Lord of Ireland because of course he did. Although generally
- 1:58Speaker 1: England only really dealt with the Pale, which was sort
- 2:01Speaker 1: of a portion of Dublin. They didn't really care too
- 2:05Speaker 1: much or go too far into the rest of the country.
- 2:10Speaker 1: But you know, context the best of all texting. So
- 2:18Speaker 1: Mali clan basically the Amale clan basically ruled the seas
- 2:23Speaker 1: on the west coast of Ireland. The Omalis they were
- 2:25Speaker 1: basically a steafair and clan who ruled over the Amal.
- 2:31Speaker 1: So it's basically the baronies of marsk Barristool and all
- 2:34Speaker 1: that sort of area, generally a portion of Mayo in Kannamara.
- 2:39Speaker 1: And they also owned effectively all the land around Cloebay,
- 2:43Speaker 1: and these lands were all seen as the Kingdom of Ireland.
- 2:48Speaker 1: I mean this was originally an Anglo Norman area, which
- 2:51Speaker 1: is another story for another day, but it was completely
- 2:54Speaker 1: Gallicized by the time Grona comes along back on track,
- 3:00Speaker 1: So Owen to that o'maya. Grania's dad was the head
- 3:04Speaker 1: of the Malay dynasty. Grownia was born on Clare, Ireland
- 3:09Speaker 1: and ended up being the only child of Owen and
- 3:11Speaker 1: maythe although she did have a half brother paternal half
- 3:14Speaker 1: brother Donally Papa. But if there was such thing as
- 3:19Speaker 1: an air presumptive, she was it, not him. Okay. In Ireland,
- 3:26Speaker 1: titles and ruling were not really hereditary. Chieftains and the
- 3:30Speaker 1: like would be voted in, so was it. It was
- 3:34Speaker 1: more of a best man for the job sort of thing,
- 3:36Speaker 1: as opposed to swearing allegiance of fuelty to testicles. Power
- 3:46Speaker 1: comes from the balls, apparently, that's very I'm saying, did
- 3:54Speaker 1: it not wrong? I mean, think about it. It's like, oh,
- 4:02Speaker 1: the next king of the next queene, it's all to
- 4:05Speaker 1: do with who was king before that. In general it
- 4:08Speaker 1: would generally be male heirs who would continue the line
- 4:12Speaker 1: of succession. So it's like, world, it comes from the balls,
- 4:18Speaker 1: so you'd still own what you wanted, but you wouldn't
- 4:26Speaker 1: be the big boss, right. So the Amaleys all had
- 4:32Speaker 1: castles all along the shoreline, so they would tax fishermen
- 4:35Speaker 1: to well fish there They also offered safe passage through
- 4:38Speaker 1: their treacherous horrors. They traded goods as far as spaying
- 4:42Speaker 1: and some good old piracy against the ships heading into
- 4:46Speaker 1: go Away. Effectively, the O'Malley van was actually banned from
- 4:52Speaker 1: go Away, so they thought, eh, so they thought, why
- 4:55Speaker 1: not pilled for in pillage those so and sos who
- 4:59Speaker 1: actually could go to go Away. Now, the amilies did
- 5:04Speaker 1: have farmland and the like, so it wasn't you know,
- 5:06Speaker 1: all yoho and sea fairiness. Gronya probably spent a lot
- 5:09Speaker 1: of her time at Clear Island, and she may have
- 5:11Speaker 1: been forced it out a little bit to another family,
- 5:13Speaker 1: which was very common at the time, and jenerally was
- 5:16Speaker 1: a way of a protecting your ears and b creating
- 5:19Speaker 1: slash maintaining political alliances. Now, Coronia was a child, or
- 5:25Speaker 1: so the legend goes, and then she asked her dad
- 5:27Speaker 1: if she could go with him on a trading expedition
- 5:30Speaker 1: to Spain, and he was like, oh no, your lovely
- 5:34Speaker 1: long locks would get caught in the ship ropes and
- 5:36Speaker 1: they'd get tangled and it would be dangerous. And here's
- 5:41Speaker 1: the thing kids are in general, unintentionally cunning. Kid logic
- 5:47Speaker 1: is very much what the quickest and simplest solution to
- 5:50Speaker 1: the problem is so problem here too long. Solution make
- 6:00Speaker 1: hair short. I imagine Gronia lobbing over hair like the
- 6:05Speaker 1: Moulan cartoonstead I just like, but I mean she was
- 6:10Speaker 1: probably just like sawing through chunks about with the closest
- 6:13Speaker 1: knives and ow. I mean, we've all seen a kid
- 6:15Speaker 1: cut their wrong hair. It's it's never good. This is
- 6:20Speaker 1: supposedly where her nickname came from, grona whale. So wheel
- 6:27Speaker 1: means like sort of bald or cropped, so it's supposed
- 6:30Speaker 1: to be like bald grone. Yeah, And when Grania was
- 6:40Speaker 1: about twelve, her mum may have passed away, And this
- 6:45Speaker 1: seems to be the time where she really gets into
- 6:47Speaker 1: the seafairy as she gets old down. She went out
- 6:52Speaker 1: learning the ropes pans I don't care and on the
- 7:00Speaker 1: I mean not seven sees, but you know, some of
- 7:03Speaker 1: the seas, a section of seas, some And the story
- 7:08Speaker 1: goes that she was effectively trained in like safety procedures,
- 7:15Speaker 1: you know, and all this kind of stuff like basically,
- 7:17Speaker 1: if they if somebody comes on our ship and is
- 7:21Speaker 1: trying to kill us, you get the fuck below deck, like,
- 7:24Speaker 1: don't you stay up here. You're a kid. Get the
- 7:26Speaker 1: fuck down now. So, as she's out on some mission
- 7:32Speaker 1: with her father, they get boarded and she's trying to
- 7:37Speaker 1: get below deck, but she can't. It's all blocked off.
- 7:40Speaker 1: So as she's trying to find somewhere to hide, she
- 7:44Speaker 1: sees a I'm gonna say, pirate going up to her
- 7:49Speaker 1: father and is about to you know, stab him in
- 7:52Speaker 1: the back or something out of that effect, and she
- 7:55Speaker 1: just grabs a knife or a cutlass or whatever is
- 7:58Speaker 1: closest to her, some sharp implement of some kind, good
- 8:02Speaker 1: for pointy, pointy stabby stabby.
- 8:04Speaker 2: And.
- 8:07Speaker 1: So she jumped yeah, yeah, no, that's right. She was
- 8:11Speaker 1: actually climbing so she couldn't go down, so she thought,
- 8:15Speaker 1: I'll go up. And so she's climbing up the mast
- 8:19Speaker 1: trying to get up towards the crow's nest or something
- 8:22Speaker 1: to that effect. She says, the guy about to stab
- 8:24Speaker 1: her dad, and she's like no, and so she jumps
- 8:28Speaker 1: on him and decides to stabby stab stab him instead,
- 8:32Speaker 1: and then saves her father from certain death. Gronia was
- 8:37Speaker 1: actually pretty well educated for the time, all right. She
- 8:40Speaker 1: had the you know, the social and realing knowledge from her,
- 8:45Speaker 1: you know, in her place in that society, and it's
- 8:48Speaker 1: generally agreed upon that because of the nature of her
- 8:51Speaker 1: way of life, an international trade and the like, that
- 8:55Speaker 1: Groaner spoke Irish, Spanish Scots, whether that's Scott's Gallic or
- 9:02Speaker 1: ah Scott's, which is also something known as Ulster Scott's,
- 9:07Speaker 1: which is generally from the region of Ayrshire, which is
- 9:12Speaker 1: where she was actually collecting a lot of her sailors from.
- 9:15Speaker 1: So because if she had such a huge amount of
- 9:17Speaker 1: Scottish crew, they believe that she spoke Scott's, but that
- 9:22Speaker 1: it doesn't really specify whether it's the Gallic or whether
- 9:24Speaker 1: it's Scott's two different languages. Scott's probably sounds it's a
- 9:32Speaker 1: little bit closer to it's somewhere between Gallic and English.
- 9:36Speaker 1: If something he said, trying to think of, I'm trying
- 9:38Speaker 1: to think if there's anything I can say in Scott's. Oh,
- 9:43Speaker 1: it's a Bonnie brick, it's a good bright night tonight.
- 9:49Speaker 1: So it's sort of it's it's it's there is a
- 9:54Speaker 1: there is something like that. It's a basically a tongue twister.
- 9:56Speaker 1: But I can't do it because I didn't learn it
- 10:02Speaker 1: I did not learn it. No, it's because it's in
- 10:04Speaker 1: Scott's and I always feel strange saying things in scott
- 10:07Speaker 1: because my accent is a little too Irish for it,
- 10:11Speaker 1: and I'm also a little bit too posh for it.
- 10:13Speaker 1: I'm told I'm molways made up. I get told im
- 10:18Speaker 1: posh and I'm like, I'm not posh. I do not
- 10:21Speaker 1: sound pots it. So yeah, so she would also speak
- 10:27Speaker 1: Latin French, and I'd say she probably spoke English. She
- 10:34Speaker 1: probably would have had a little bit of it. See,
- 10:36Speaker 1: I I maintained that being the kind of girl that
- 10:41Speaker 1: Gronia was, I mean, I'd like to believe that either
- 10:43Speaker 1: she deliberately didn't learn English or speak English just to
- 10:49Speaker 1: be spiteful. It was sound about right.
- 10:56Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 10:56Speaker 1: So when Groania was about sixteen and fifteen forty six,
- 11:04Speaker 1: I don't even think I meant yeah they mane tom there. Yeah.
- 11:06Speaker 1: So when growing it was about sixteen and fifteen forty
- 11:09Speaker 1: six she married Donald and Jogi O Flaberty and this
- 11:14Speaker 1: was yeah, say that's five games fast. And this was
- 11:18Speaker 1: a great physical match because he was the tarnish of
- 11:20Speaker 1: the o Florite Klan. Like the next time line. So
- 11:25Speaker 1: by effectively consolidating their power. They basically had a shit
- 11:29Speaker 1: ton of it. Now I should already mentioned that Ireland
- 11:34Speaker 1: at the time there was sort of a diary that
- 11:37Speaker 1: grow on you had and women would bring whatever they
- 11:42Speaker 1: brought into the marriage they could leave with it, so
- 11:46Speaker 1: the land, the animals, the money, and you know, at
- 11:51Speaker 1: least at least three ships they came with her into
- 11:56Speaker 1: the marriage, and they would and when she left the
- 11:59Speaker 1: marriage they would come her. So so not only did
- 12:04Speaker 1: Gronia enter the marriage with her own wealth. Under Irish law,
- 12:10Speaker 1: she was able to acquire more wealth property and she
- 12:16Speaker 1: could do this yeah, et cetera. And she could earn
- 12:20Speaker 1: independently as well. So not everything that she earned or
- 12:24Speaker 1: gained during the marriage would become her husband's. Donald A.
- 12:29Speaker 1: Flaherty was neither a great husband nor a great leader.
- 12:35Speaker 1: Are we surprised now? He was known to have a
- 12:40Speaker 1: quick and foul temper, He was a nursehole, and he
- 12:44Speaker 1: was often causing and getting into skirmishes with neighboring clans.
- 12:50Speaker 1: During their eighteen year marriage, they had three children, Owen
- 12:53Speaker 1: May and Marcia. It was a really funny story about
- 12:58Speaker 1: when somewhere was under attack, somewhere where they were was
- 13:03Speaker 1: under attack and Marca didn't want to fight. He basically
- 13:12Speaker 1: ran away or he was just doing some kind of
- 13:14Speaker 1: shit like that. And I don't know the phrase in Irish, okay,
- 13:19Speaker 1: but she basically said, are you trying to crawl up
- 13:23Speaker 1: my arse the place you came out off? Like, get
- 13:27Speaker 1: the back like, you know, get your back together and
- 13:30Speaker 1: go fight, because she basically said, and well to something
- 13:35Speaker 1: something up mahone ah so but it's I don't I
- 13:40Speaker 1: don't know the exact phrase in Irish, but basically she
- 13:43Speaker 1: was like, what the fuck me, get your back at
- 13:46Speaker 1: there because she was fighting like and he wasn't a
- 13:50Speaker 1: child at this point, he was like a man. But anyway,
- 13:58Speaker 1: in fifteen sixty or a lower ranking member of the
- 14:02Speaker 1: flowerte clan wanted to expand his territory. So the Crown,
- 14:10Speaker 1: who basically weren't really around so much at that point,
- 14:14Speaker 1: had come and went right before what really wanted to
- 14:18Speaker 1: get their claws into Ireland at that point, so the
- 14:21Speaker 1: Crown decided to support his cause because it was beneficial
- 14:24Speaker 1: to their plans. And at this point, Good Queen Bess
- 14:28Speaker 1: had ascended to the throne and had set her sights
- 14:31Speaker 1: on Ireland. Good Queen Best is Queen Elizabeth the first
- 14:38Speaker 1: If you hadn't guessed that I liked to call it
- 14:42Speaker 1: good beeen best. No, before the afforemationed hot tempered Dono
- 14:51Speaker 1: I had a chance to respond or retaliate, he was
- 14:56Speaker 1: unfortunately slain by a neighboring clan, the Choice and Granya,
- 15:03Speaker 1: upon hearing of the death of her husband, well she
- 15:11Speaker 1: was not the most forgiving person, shall we say? So
- 15:14Speaker 1: when Dona was killed, she either laid siege or repelled one.
- 15:20Speaker 1: But with Grania, and I'm going to assume that she
- 15:22Speaker 1: led it. And so basically leads a siege on cox
- 15:29Speaker 1: Castle and one and because she won, it was renamed
- 15:37Speaker 1: Hen's Castle in her honor. So because of because of
- 15:43Speaker 1: obviously the Irish law, with the death of her husband,
- 15:48Speaker 1: she only had what she entered the march with and
- 15:49Speaker 1: what she had gained within it, so like she wasn't
- 15:53Speaker 1: indeitled to any of his lands or anything like that.
- 15:58Speaker 1: So she grabs her gear, her money, her cows, and
- 16:03Speaker 1: her three ships. Well do you know what she brought
- 16:08Speaker 1: into the match? And then but she also leaves with
- 16:12Speaker 1: two hundred fighting men. Now one must wonder how well
- 16:18Speaker 1: respected she was that she was able to retain the
- 16:22Speaker 1: allegiance of so many o'flarerty men. And these are big, bruising,
- 16:32Speaker 1: fighting piratey men. Like It's not as if these are
- 16:36Speaker 1: just like farmers and shit. But anyway, so all she
- 16:41Speaker 1: pops back to Klube and Clear Island and she's doing
- 16:46Speaker 1: her thing, and she briefly takes a lover. Supposedly it
- 16:50Speaker 1: was a shipwrecked sailor. Anyway, he gets killed by the
- 16:54Speaker 1: mans of Ballyvoi, and being the reasonable person that she is,
- 16:58Speaker 1: she seeks vengeance and attacks them. One's she attacks the
- 17:02Speaker 1: Castle of Dinner and a black sword bay, slaying her
- 17:07Speaker 1: lover's killer and giving herself the nomina. Is that a word, Monica?
- 17:18Speaker 1: Thank you, ah, I'm earning herself the Moniker, the dark
- 17:23Speaker 1: Lady of Dona. So two years after the death of
- 17:29Speaker 1: her first husband, Grone remarried and she took be with
- 17:34Speaker 1: me In this one mistred misjudge Aaron Burke as her
- 17:45Speaker 1: misjudging that Aaron Burke as her second husband. I'm also
- 17:49Speaker 1: known as Iron Richard, but I like to call him
- 17:53Speaker 1: Iron Dick because I think it's funnier. So we had
- 17:57Speaker 1: one child, t Wood so t wod Burke and he
- 18:06Speaker 1: ended up becoming the first Viscount of Mail. Now the
- 18:10Speaker 1: story goes with tea bud is that he was born
- 18:13Speaker 1: at sea. So apparently she's in the ship and gets
- 18:17Speaker 1: buf him on the ship and then like the day
- 18:23Speaker 1: after he's born, the ship gets raided. Pirates are there
- 18:28Speaker 1: and she's like, well fuck this, jumps out of the bed,
- 18:33Speaker 1: grabs a musket and goes up on deck, shoots a
- 18:37Speaker 1: bunch of buggers and is like thank you, Okay, get
- 18:40Speaker 1: the fuck off my ship, bye bye and h Yeah.
- 18:46Speaker 1: So by all accounts, Richard was also a crappy husband.
- 18:55Speaker 2: Now the story goes, I know, this is a lot
- 18:59Speaker 2: of alleged and the story goes, but a lot of
- 19:02Speaker 2: Irish his three is oral and not written down, so
- 19:06Speaker 2: it took a long time to piece this together from
- 19:09Speaker 2: different sources.
- 19:10Speaker 1: So effectively they had a sort of it. They're supposed
- 19:14Speaker 1: to have had a temporary marriage right where they can
- 19:17Speaker 1: get it's a trial marriage for a year.
- 19:21Speaker 4: But yeah, so it's a good trail marriage and basically
- 19:29Speaker 4: it's supposed to be part of a certain ancient Irish law.
- 19:32Speaker 1: But whatever. But as far as like the British were concerned,
- 19:36Speaker 1: and they were still married, and they still presented themselves
- 19:39Speaker 1: as as a married couple, you know. So take this
- 19:44Speaker 1: with a bit of salt. So effectively he's off Galavatan
- 19:47Speaker 1: somewhere and it comes back to rock Fleet Castle and
- 19:57Speaker 1: Gronia basically locked the door, all ships outside, and she
- 20:02Speaker 1: yells out the window to Iron Dick Richard Burke, I
- 20:06Speaker 1: dismiss you, and opposedly, that's all you gotta do. That's
- 20:09Speaker 1: an Irish divorce, being like bye, and surprisingly she managed
- 20:18Speaker 1: to like keep the castle and her and Richard were
- 20:22Speaker 1: like still good buddies. So Gronia Wheel stayed in the
- 20:29Speaker 1: O'Malley castle in this arm. It was basically a stronghold
- 20:32Speaker 1: and strategically in the best place to be because it
- 20:34Speaker 1: was right in the center of her sea kingdom, and
- 20:37Speaker 1: she had booby traps and smoke signals and way of
- 20:41Speaker 1: sending and receiving messages that she had a rope that
- 20:44Speaker 1: went from her bed the post of her bed all
- 20:49Speaker 1: the way down to the mast ownership like and so
- 20:57Speaker 1: all of the castles at the time, what they would
- 21:01Speaker 1: do is they were the staircases were built so that
- 21:08Speaker 1: you would have to hold if you were going up
- 21:10Speaker 1: the staircase, you would have to hold your sword in
- 21:17Speaker 1: your left hand, and obviously you did not hold a
- 21:22Speaker 1: sort of left handed especially then, so if you were
- 21:25Speaker 1: going up, you would basically have a I would have
- 21:29Speaker 1: a disadvantage to so when you got, if you were
- 21:33Speaker 1: to an attack, you'd have to have your sword in
- 21:36Speaker 1: your left hand, so you're more likely to get like
- 21:38Speaker 1: at the top of the stairs, like down you go.
- 21:45Speaker 1: Fifteen seventy five, No, the crowd is taking power all
- 21:48Speaker 1: over the shop. And in fifteen seventy five, Groana offers
- 21:53Speaker 1: her three galleys and two hundred fighting men to the
- 21:57Speaker 1: Lord Deputy Sir Henry Sydney, trying to add more taxes
- 22:01Speaker 1: and you know, people just weren't paying them. So she's like,
- 22:06Speaker 1: you know, I will offer you my fighting men, my ships,
- 22:09Speaker 1: and she took them on a trip to see all
- 22:12Speaker 1: of you know, what she could do, and he's still like, okay,
- 22:16Speaker 1: no thanks, And within three weeks of this offer, she
- 22:20Speaker 1: goes off to plunder and whatnot and gets captured, so
- 22:25Speaker 1: she's kept. She's kept for a bit and then she's
- 22:28Speaker 1: sent to Dublin in chains in fifteen seventy eight as
- 22:32Speaker 1: a demonstration of a loyalty to the crown. So she's
- 22:40Speaker 1: forty eight at this point when she gets captured in
- 22:47Speaker 1: transferred to Dublin. Now she gets released in fifteen seventy
- 22:51Speaker 1: nine and gets it back to carry Gerhoy which is
- 22:55Speaker 1: a rock fleet, which is the other name for it.
- 22:59Speaker 1: And she gets busy sieged by Captain Martin for her
- 23:02Speaker 1: pirating escapades and this is not this was not Gronia's
- 23:08Speaker 1: first rodeo and basically she scares him off like he
- 23:14Speaker 1: tries to attack her, and then he barely leaves with
- 23:17Speaker 1: his life. Now fifteen eighty, Iron Dick becomes Lord Brooke,
- 23:24Speaker 1: with Gronia getting the title of Lady Birke because yay,
- 23:30Speaker 1: appeasement is totally going to work for this check new Castle,
- 23:36Speaker 1: new title, new life. Three years later, unfortunately Iron Dick
- 23:44Speaker 1: dies of natural causes or you know, I mean for him.
- 23:48Speaker 1: Great for her e now are Gronia, She's been through
- 23:53Speaker 1: this before. She packs her bags, grabs her followers or
- 23:58Speaker 1: like a thousand herriques cat oh one thousand heads of
- 24:04Speaker 1: cows and males for Scott Curus. She got horses and
- 24:10Speaker 1: she get the fac back to Carraga. Howley well, she's
- 24:15Speaker 1: fifty three, she's independently wealthy, so you know she should retire.
- 24:20Speaker 1: She'd chill out, relax a little bit. No, So in
- 24:26Speaker 1: fifteen eighty four, Sir John parent Is appointed the Lord
- 24:30Speaker 1: Deputy with the fucking arsehole Sir Richard Bingham as the
- 24:36Speaker 1: provincial President of Connacht. Now hm and how he hated
- 24:43Speaker 1: the Irish and oh he really really hated grown here.
- 24:47Speaker 1: So parent is trying the whole you know, you can't
- 24:51Speaker 1: more flies with honey than vinegar approach, where Bingham is
- 24:55Speaker 1: definitely more of a stick than a carrot. With all
- 25:01Speaker 1: the penalties and all the shit he was doing, the
- 25:03Speaker 1: Birks start rebelling, and Bingham fought back, being you know,
- 25:11Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say unreasonably cruel. So he sends his
- 25:14Speaker 1: brother to kill on no Floherty, which is Growna's oldest son.
- 25:18Speaker 1: When offers you know, hospitality to Bingham junior or brother
- 25:25Speaker 1: Bingham whose name I didn't learn anyway, Brother Bingham, Bigham's brother.
- 25:30Speaker 1: He's offered, you know, oh, come to dinner. Everything's fine,
- 25:34Speaker 1: We're gonna have a wee chat. I will show you
- 25:36Speaker 1: that I'm a respectful person. And Bro Bingham ends up
- 25:43Speaker 1: stabbing him twelve times. Now, I don't want to say
- 25:45Speaker 1: stabbing someone twelve times is overkilled, but it definitely feels
- 25:48Speaker 1: like a bit much.
- 25:52Speaker 3: So.
- 25:52Speaker 1: Gronia, obviously, being the vengeful bit she is and rightfully so,
- 26:00Speaker 1: joins the rebellion. So Bingham gets sent to help the
- 26:05Speaker 1: Dutch in their fight against Spain, and while he's away,
- 26:08Speaker 1: Gronia sails to the Pale Oh Yeah, which joins the rebellion.
- 26:13Speaker 1: The rebellion does not go well. Now, at one point
- 26:18Speaker 1: she gets shipwrecked somewhere, and a bunch of other stuff happens.
- 26:21Speaker 1: That's not really that relevant because she's basically just away
- 26:24Speaker 1: for a couple of months, and then Bingham gets sent
- 26:27Speaker 1: to help the Dutch in the fight against Spain, and
- 26:31Speaker 1: so she has her ships back again and decides to
- 26:35Speaker 1: sail to the Pale Dublin and ask the Lord Deputy
- 26:40Speaker 1: Parrot Parole, parrot whatever for a pardon for her and
- 26:46Speaker 1: her children and their past defenses, and him, knowing of
- 26:52Speaker 1: Gronia and her reputation, agrees. In fifteen eighty eight, the
- 26:59Speaker 1: Spanish Mada is eding for England, so they were preoccupied
- 27:05Speaker 1: with this for a bit. Obviously, thanks to you know,
- 27:08Speaker 1: the weather and just luck for the English. The athough
- 27:14Speaker 1: Spanish armada, most of it sinks, most of it's already
- 27:18Speaker 1: destroyed before even gets to England. However, Grolanya, who was
- 27:25Speaker 1: not supposed to be doing any shit, is said to
- 27:28Speaker 1: have found gone out searching for you know, a sort
- 27:34Speaker 1: of Spaniards and the like who had ended up on
- 27:37Speaker 1: the shores of Ireland, and she's giving them safe passage
- 27:41Speaker 1: to Scotland where they were safe. So uh, it's and
- 27:50Speaker 1: it sounds like something she would do because one she
- 27:52Speaker 1: is spiteful and two you know, these are people that
- 27:55Speaker 1: she's been trading with her entire life. And also fuck
- 27:59Speaker 1: the English is far she's concerned. So in fifteen eighty eight,
- 28:06Speaker 1: Peart is replaced with Fitzwilliam. Bingham returns and just fucks
- 28:12Speaker 1: everything up, killing whenever he wants, laying waste to the
- 28:18Speaker 1: land and the people, and Fitz William is trying to
- 28:22Speaker 1: rain bing him in, but it didn't work. All these
- 28:27Speaker 1: reports commit against Bingham, and Bingham gets tried and but
- 28:30Speaker 1: he gets acquitted because of course he does, because no
- 28:34Speaker 1: one cares that he literally destroyed like acres and acres
- 28:38Speaker 1: and acres of farmland and tried to make it uninhabitable, inhabitable, uninhabitable,
- 28:48Speaker 1: that's the one inhabitable. He returns to Connacht and is
- 28:53Speaker 1: hella mad and hell bent undestroying Ranya. So when she's
- 28:58Speaker 1: at sea, he just roys her land at Carrigahilly in
- 29:03Speaker 1: her son Marca. He aligned himself with Bingham and that
- 29:07Speaker 1: was him cut out the will, and she also torched
- 29:11Speaker 1: all of his shit and she completely disowned him and
- 29:17Speaker 1: she refused to speak of him or to him ever again.
- 29:21Speaker 1: So all of Corona's fleet ends up impounded. And fifteen
- 29:29Speaker 1: ninety two, Tibud is like Tibud is the son, her
- 29:32Speaker 1: youngest kid, and he's like, ah, I have to submit
- 29:36Speaker 1: because he's looking around going fuck yes no. So he
- 29:45Speaker 1: ends up being held captive by Bingham. So Grona is like,
- 29:49Speaker 1: fuck this for a game of soldiers. She's worried her
- 29:53Speaker 1: youngest child is going to be executed as he was
- 29:57Speaker 1: linked to the rebellion by the Earl of Tyrone. So
- 30:03Speaker 1: in fifteen ninety three she goes all the way to
- 30:05Speaker 1: the top. She goes phil Karen and seeks to speak
- 30:10Speaker 1: to the manager and requests an audience with Queen Elizabeth
- 30:14Speaker 1: the First, and Queen elizabetha First says, yea, why not
- 30:22Speaker 1: come on over, let's have a chat. So she shows
- 30:26Speaker 1: up in a lovely guna. She's there in her gown
- 30:31Speaker 1: and she gets frisked as she goes in, and they
- 30:33Speaker 1: found a dagger on her and she's like, protection, they'll
- 30:36Speaker 1: win it. Ah whips, I forgot that was there? Did
- 30:41Speaker 1: I did? I happen to bring a small saber with me? Whoops?
- 30:44Speaker 1: And what a crazy random happenstance. So she's in court.
- 30:52Speaker 1: She's at court and she sneezes or her alergies are
- 30:56Speaker 1: playing up or whatever. She's given a handkerchief by one
- 31:01Speaker 1: of the ladies of the court and she blows her
- 31:03Speaker 1: nose into the shock of all the courtiers. She chucks
- 31:07Speaker 1: it in the fire and everyone's like, oh, oh no,
- 31:11Speaker 1: and she has to explain that it's dirty and it's
- 31:14Speaker 1: an Irish thing. Apparently it's an Irish thing where you
- 31:18Speaker 1: have to like, you know, if it's your handkerchiefs once
- 31:22Speaker 1: thing used are seen as dirty and she'd be destroyed.
- 31:27Speaker 1: I'm not entirely sure if this is a true thing,
- 31:29Speaker 1: but it does seemed like something she would do. Just
- 31:31Speaker 1: you know, for shits and giggles, being like it's more
- 31:37Speaker 1: of a shock value personally. But like, so when she
- 31:41Speaker 1: meets the Queen, she doesn't curtsy or bow to her,
- 31:46Speaker 1: and again it's like shocks. They already shocked court. And
- 31:51Speaker 1: she's like, well, I'm Queen of Ireland, so we're equal.
- 31:55Speaker 1: I don't need to bow to you, and good Queen
- 31:59Speaker 1: Bess is like, yeah, all right, so no worries. And
- 32:06Speaker 1: so the two of them start chatting in Latin because
- 32:12Speaker 1: Elizabeth doesn't speak any Irish and Grownia supposedly doesn't speak
- 32:17Speaker 1: any English, and so basically Grownia goes that, you know,
- 32:24Speaker 1: her savioring ways were out of necessity because you know,
- 32:27Speaker 1: she lived on the coast and times were tough, and
- 32:30Speaker 1: you know she had to provode for her children, and
- 32:33Speaker 1: that Bengham had it out for her, and you know,
- 32:37Speaker 1: everything she did she had to do for her own safety,
- 32:40Speaker 1: and that she had been living a simple farmer's life
- 32:43Speaker 1: since her pardon no pillaging here can't prove a thing.
- 32:48Speaker 1: You don't have the receipts, you know, and that's what
- 32:51Speaker 1: And so she says like that she had to come
- 32:52Speaker 1: over here because you know he already killed one son.
- 32:57Speaker 1: Who's to say he isn't going to kill another like
- 33:01Speaker 1: she needed her help. So Bengham is fucking pest and
- 33:08Speaker 1: so he gets the hell at a dodge, only to
- 33:10Speaker 1: be arrested when he hits England. Granted it's it's not
- 33:15Speaker 1: too long before he's back, but you know, so Queen
- 33:19Speaker 1: Elizabeth believes grown yet somehow I don't know she does,
- 33:26Speaker 1: and she's like, yeah, she'll be a loyal subject. Upon
- 33:29Speaker 1: receiving a small pension and being looked after by the crown.
- 33:36Speaker 1: Bengham at this point has incensed, and so one of
- 33:42Speaker 1: the things that Groanhead asked for is to have like
- 33:46Speaker 1: Bingham removed from removed from Ireland, and so the Queen
- 33:51Speaker 1: raised right. And then after a while, you know, Bingham
- 33:56Speaker 1: goes back so again incensed, and he just creates chaos
- 34:08Speaker 1: and he just keeps wailing on Granit. He just keeps
- 34:11Speaker 1: causing issues here, there and everywhere. Like everything everything he
- 34:18Speaker 1: can do to make her life harder he will do.
- 34:22Speaker 1: So she ends up returning to her seafaring pirrating waits,
- 34:28Speaker 1: and so fifteen ninety seven the Barks end up being
- 34:31Speaker 1: paid handsomely for helping the Crown. So that's uh, so
- 34:37Speaker 1: that would be Gronia and her son Tibut. So up,
- 34:45Speaker 1: they end up pretty well out of it. So they're
- 34:47Speaker 1: going around and they're sort of sailing about, and the
- 34:50Speaker 1: last known record of her sort of still out sailing
- 34:54Speaker 1: is sixteen oh one, so seventy one years old, and
- 35:00Speaker 1: she's still out there kicking ass, like seventy one and
- 35:02Speaker 1: she's still out there pirating like how anyway, I don't know,
- 35:06Speaker 1: so especially in the sixteen hundred's less insane to me.
- 35:12Speaker 1: But okay, so sixteen oh three, age finally catches up
- 35:18Speaker 1: the Gronia and she dies of natural causes, so they say,
- 35:22Speaker 1: I mean, at this point, maybe the devil himself came.
- 35:26Speaker 3: To take her. But Gronia and Queen Elizabeth actually died
- 35:34Speaker 3: a couple months within each other. There was like a
- 35:37Speaker 3: four or five months disference, I think. So Gronia wheel
- 35:40Speaker 3: her life becomes the stuff of legend, and you know,
- 35:45Speaker 3: folklore is created about her, and you know, a lot
- 35:50Speaker 3: of a lot of Irish history like omitted her, like
- 35:55Speaker 3: officially omitted her from a lot of things. But it
- 35:59Speaker 3: was actually for the English records that they were able
- 36:01Speaker 3: to find out so much information about her. Because it
- 36:04Speaker 3: was just a lot of were just Bingham's complaints been.
- 36:06Speaker 1: Like every and it's like every fucking issue we've had
- 36:11Speaker 1: over the every rebellion we've had over the last forty years,
- 36:13Speaker 1: that bitch has been like everything.
- 36:17Speaker 5: So either so Gonul her life becomes the stuff of legend,
- 36:25Speaker 5: you know, with tales of her escapades being taught to
- 36:28Speaker 5: Irish school children today, Like there's tours about her, you
- 36:31Speaker 5: can go visit, you can go visit our castle, like it's.
- 36:35Speaker 1: It's such a huge deal. And especially to have such
- 36:38Speaker 1: a strong, powerful woman in Irish history, it's just really
- 36:42Speaker 1: nice to have. And in Grannuville she was a warrior,
- 36:45Speaker 1: she was the pirate queen of Ireland. You would not
- 36:50Speaker 1: want to mess with her, That's all I'm saying. But
- 36:54Speaker 1: a lot of the times when you read about Grona her,
- 36:58Speaker 1: she's referred to as Grace O'Malley, which is not her name.
- 37:05Speaker 1: Her name is not Grace. I'm putting this at the
- 37:07Speaker 1: end because if I did at the beginning, it would
- 37:09Speaker 1: it just ended up in a long, angry rant. Ah.
- 37:13Speaker 1: So they say it's like they say they anglicized her name,
- 37:16Speaker 1: and it's like no, no, they didn't. They just changed
- 37:20Speaker 1: they gave her a different name. Grace is not the
- 37:24Speaker 1: English version of Gronya. Gronia doesn't really have an English
- 37:28Speaker 1: version of its name. Gronia means Gronia means corn, and
- 37:35Speaker 1: Grace comes from grace of God, so isn't it it's
- 37:38Speaker 1: not the same name. But yeah, the name Gronia means called.
- 37:42Speaker 1: But her name is Gronia o'malia name Alia. Sorry, Gronia
- 37:46Speaker 1: name Alia, which is that's her that's her full actual name,
- 37:49Speaker 1: which would be Gronia O'Malley in English and Grona name
- 37:53Speaker 1: Alia in Irish. The documents they have her name written down,
- 37:58Speaker 1: but they've written it down the way that they they
- 38:01Speaker 1: think it is, like they wrote Grona as Granny and
- 38:07Speaker 1: crany and like g r a n y a, like
- 38:11Speaker 1: they tried. It's just somewhere down the line it got
- 38:16Speaker 1: changed to Grace. So at the time they were correct,
- 38:21Speaker 1: but like it's somehow over time it's gone weird. Like
- 38:27Speaker 1: my name in Irish is Catchleen need Charlwood, So like
- 38:33Speaker 1: Charlwood doesn't have an Irish translation. It probably could if
- 38:39Speaker 1: I worked hard enough, I could use another surtname. But like,
- 38:44Speaker 1: but I'm Catchleen as technically what my name would be
- 38:50Speaker 1: in Irish, but catches probably catches what would be used
- 38:55Speaker 1: more often than not. Because I'm Katie, I would be catch.
- 38:58Speaker 1: I'd be Captain Childwood, which is really fun when you're
- 39:00Speaker 1: playing rounders and the shout catch catch, it did happen.
- 39:06Speaker 1: They should do it all the time. Catch catch. That's why
- 39:08Speaker 1: I was a goalie for a bit so to story.
- 39:14Speaker 1: So that was the That was the story of Grow
- 39:19Speaker 1: on your Wheel. Oh yeah, what was the point. Yeah,
- 39:22Speaker 1: I was going to say Lupita. So it's like saying
- 39:25Speaker 1: the name Lupita is the English version is Lucy. It's not,
- 39:31Speaker 1: it's not the same name. It's it's kind of how
- 39:36Speaker 1: I'm going to say, like how the default character is
- 39:39Speaker 1: always a straight white male, Like it shouldn't be, Like
- 39:44Speaker 1: the default language should not be English, says me, speaking
- 39:48Speaker 1: in English, but like you know what I mean. No,
- 39:50Speaker 1: just like with regard to names, like we should learn
- 39:53Speaker 1: to be able to pronounce people's names like as best
- 39:57Speaker 1: we can.
- 40:00Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 40:01Speaker 1: See, but yeah, that was the story of Grown your Wheel,
- 40:05Speaker 1: Grown Ni Malia, grown ya oh Mally the Irish pirate queen.
- 40:10Speaker 1: So yeah, I forgot how I was gonna end this
- 40:16Speaker 1: not Yeah. Whoever said history was boring clearly wasn't paying attention.
- 40:23Speaker 1: There was something else that I had. I had a
- 40:25Speaker 1: really I was like in my head earlier, I was like,
- 40:27Speaker 1: I have a really good sagen and then I forgot
- 40:30Speaker 1: what it was that I was gonna say. But it's fine,
- 40:33Speaker 1: it's final. Oh oh, we'll be okay, we'll get through this.
- 40:39Speaker 1: Uh So I'm gonna say adios au Revoir and of
- 40:43Speaker 1: weeta Zen, see you next day.