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NFL Week 6 TNF Showdown | Eagles @ Giants | DraftKings DFS Picks, Plays & Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: Yeah, all systems.
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  Speaker 2: I'll bring you in. Man, what's going on? Another Thursday
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  Speaker 2: night game and some interesting stuff on this one. Jordan
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  Speaker 2: Humphrey talk even on the table here with everything.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it just was informed to that prior to the show,
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  Speaker 3: so that'll be an interesting talking point. But yeah, I
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  Speaker 3: mean to do the five days like right now. It
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  Speaker 3: is literally you know, it's probably the best stretch. You
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  Speaker 3: got multiple showdowns late. It's the NFL Mainsleague at usc
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  Speaker 3: college football, MLB playoffs. I don't know if there's NASCAR
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  Speaker 3: this week, and I'm sure I'm forgetting something, but I mean,
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  Speaker 3: it's a lot of stuffs are getting a lot of
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  Speaker 3: bang for your buck. We'd love to have you a
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  Speaker 3: great deal obviously, nineteen bucks for the five days. In
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  Speaker 3: terms of the game tonight, yeah, I mean it's it's
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  Speaker 3: not the most appealing game, and really the fantasy options,
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  Speaker 3: the DFS options are somewhat limited when you start going through.
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  Speaker 3: We'll see and talk through it all, but yeah, it's
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  Speaker 3: it could be an ugly one tonight. I mean the
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  Speaker 3: totals sitting like right around what forty one forty two
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  Speaker 3: ish Eagles favored obviously by like a touchdown, but their
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  Speaker 3: offenses looked really, really bad at all season, and you know,
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  Speaker 3: A J. Brown can't be happy with with the way
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  Speaker 3: things have gone so far, and there's grumblings there and
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  Speaker 3: Saquon hasn't had many or any big games this year,
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  Speaker 3: so I mean there are some definite talking points that
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  Speaker 3: that will go through. But this definitely kicks off a
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  Speaker 3: big week. I think got two games on Monday, I
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  Speaker 3: want to believe, got the Lions and Chase, which should
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  Speaker 3: be a good game in prime time. So it's gonna
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  Speaker 3: be a fun week. Excited to get it started here today.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, title kick it over to you man, Any first
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  Speaker 2: thoughts or anything coming into the week before we get
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  Speaker 2: to the grand scheme overview in this game.
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  Speaker 4: Is this uh our man from last year or two
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  Speaker 2: Think about it?
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  Speaker 3: Inops, guy got yeah, well who was the dude?
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  Speaker 2: Uh?
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  Speaker 3: We always get the we'd always get the update of
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  Speaker 3: where where he was at and the building.
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  Speaker 2: We don't know he's still alive. He was working up
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  Speaker 2: in the heavy tread. That was the dude. It was.
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  Speaker 3: Someone in the chat, someone that's been with I can't
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  Speaker 3: remember the freaking might know.
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  Speaker 1: He might be something. Maybe there it is.
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  Speaker 1: That'd be cool.
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  Speaker 2: But he'll restart the whole process. I hope you guys
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  Speaker 2: change my mind. Just did all this work, but just
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  Speaker 2: change my mind all He'll restart the whole process. Do
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's been with us for a while, though he
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  Speaker 4: knew who we were referring to, So shout out to Jonathan. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: good game third, I mean baseball. We got my brew
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  Speaker 4: playoffs have been fun. Your Blue Jays are you saying
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  Speaker 3: Man?
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  Speaker 2: I got a I don't have to have here, but
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  Speaker 2: I have a Blue Jays hat somewhere. I got a
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  Speaker 2: cheer for my boys.
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  Speaker 1: There you go.
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  Speaker 2: You always got to root.
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  Speaker 3: And if you're a true baseball fan, you always have
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  Speaker 3: root against the Yankees. If you're not a Yankees fan,
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  Speaker 3: you always got against the Yankees. What about the Dodgers
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  Speaker 3: and the Dodgers too, Like that's the problem with baseball,
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  Speaker 3: Like you're just forced to root against these teams that
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  Speaker 3: try to buy championships and usually it doesn't work out,
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  Speaker 3: but it's like they put themselves definitely at an advantage
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  Speaker 3: with the fact that they can go out and spend
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  Speaker 3: all this money. So you got to root against Yankees, Dodgers,
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  Speaker 3: and I think you can add Mets to the list
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  Speaker 3: as well.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with that. It's gonna be fun though,
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  Speaker 4: so playoff baseball. College football has always been a lot
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  Speaker 4: of fun Nascar, of course, NFL to go down so much.
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  Speaker 4: We got what Sunday morning game again, two games on Monday,
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  Speaker 2: Hey he did bring up a good point, so someone said,
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  Speaker 2: and Jonathan's the man for coming through on this is
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  Speaker 2: Saw I'm handbuilding while managing a booth for work. But Jonathan,
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  Speaker 3: How about we throw in some comments since DD hasn't
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  Speaker 3: been around lately, like, what are you think d D
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  Speaker 3: has been up to you?
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  Speaker 2: Since?
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  Speaker 3: Since we haven't seen him on the shows lately, let's
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  Speaker 3: get some Let's get some comments rolling in.
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  Speaker 2: What's what has DD been up to? We haven't seen
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  Speaker 2: what happened to d D. That's how we'll kick it
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  Speaker 2: off and get into this job. So all right, title,
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  Speaker 2: I'll stay with you, man, this is gonna be a
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  Speaker 2: good one. Let's get to the prizes and stuff later,
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  Speaker 2: but for now, let's get to the grand scheme overview.
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  Speaker 2: We know what it is. There is some potential for
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  Speaker 2: like a we mentioned the jokes aside. We got a
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  Speaker 2: two hundred dollars receiver. There's no neighbors, we know that,
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  Speaker 2: but there is some guys coming back, right. You got
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  Speaker 2: Tracy's back, the conversation around Philly, the blowouts, the five ones,
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  Speaker 2: everybody wants to build, all these things and more. What's
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  Speaker 2: your first thoughts?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, first thought, I'm similar to Hoop. I know he's
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  Speaker 4: talked about. It's just looking at the captain ownership. First
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  Speaker 4: thing that stands out. No one on the Giants are
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  Speaker 4: double digits at the Captain, which is interesting, but it
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  Speaker 4: makes sense when you dive in deeper. You mentioned Tracy's back,
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  Speaker 4: So Scatabo definitely looks overpriced at ten k. Tracy looks
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  Speaker 4: overpriced at seven K. And then the receiving room, there's
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  Speaker 4: obviously neighbors. Two weeks ago with the ACL really sucks.
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  Speaker 4: He was on pace for a monster year. Then they're
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  Speaker 4: number one Darius Slayton or number two whatever, him and
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  Speaker 4: Wondale one A one B. Slayton goes down with the hammy.
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  Speaker 4: So now they're have Jalen Hyatt, Bo Collins, an undrafted rookie.
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  Speaker 4: Jalen Hyatt's been irrelevant forever. I mean, there's been hype
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  Speaker 4: from he's never done anything, and then yeah, possibly Lil
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  Speaker 4: Jordan Humphrey two hundred dollars expected to be called up
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  Speaker 4: from the practice squad. Just it's very tough on the
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  Speaker 4: giant side of wanting to play captain. So what that's
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  Speaker 4: gonna do is funnel everyone into Jalen Hurts. You haven't
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  Speaker 4: projected for twenty two, Saquon projected for nineteen. AJ Brown
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  Speaker 4: right around ten. Anyone outside of I'm even gonna say
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  Speaker 4: pretty much outside of Hurt, Saquon like nine percent, AJ
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  Speaker 4: Brown ten percent, I'm fine with. But the nice thing
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  Speaker 4: is on eagle slates, you can play Jalen Hurts in
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  Speaker 4: so many ways that captain due to the tush push,
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  Speaker 4: due to the rushing upside, where even if he is chalk,
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  Speaker 4: which he will be, you can play him in so
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  Speaker 4: many different ways than the field one, pass catcher, two, three,
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  Speaker 4: even zero. You can also play a defense against both
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  Speaker 4: quarterbacks today start a good rusher, Hurts a good rusher,
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  Speaker 4: so I will say, last thing. Pricing seems more tight
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  Speaker 4: on this late than I think we've seen all year.
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  Speaker 4: But there is enough cheap options that you can still
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  Speaker 4: leave money and value pieces.
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  Speaker 1: But the studs and the Spens I.
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  Speaker 4: Think are priced appropriately, which I don't think we can
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  Speaker 4: say for most of these slates so far.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Hoop, what's your thoughts on that? I thought it
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  Speaker 2: was a really good breakdown just to kick it off.
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  Speaker 2: But what do you got for this one that you're
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  Speaker 2: you know comes to mind when you think of this
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  Speaker 2: two teams playing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, the main dudes for the
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  Speaker 3: Eagles are going to get a majority of the ownership
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  Speaker 3: in the captain and then you know, probably whatever you
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  Speaker 3: know people can fit in in the in the flex spot.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's hard to look at some of these
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  Speaker 3: Eagles guys and of these Giants guys and say that
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  Speaker 3: you know they're going to be the highest scoring players
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  Speaker 3: on the slatee Now, to be optimal Campan, you don't
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  Speaker 3: necessarily have to be the highest scoring, but you want
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  Speaker 3: them to be able to be, you know, exceed their
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  Speaker 3: their expectation, but by quite a bit. And it's difficult,
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  Speaker 3: and you have Tracy coming back today, which you know,
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  Speaker 3: Scataboo is a name that people probably would have been
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  Speaker 3: comfortable playing up top, but with Tracy back, there's going
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  Speaker 3: to be some sort of split. And Scataboo is priced
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  Speaker 3: like he's the only the only show in town and
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  Speaker 3: he's no longer the only show in town, and Tracy
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  Speaker 3: has an uncomfortable price tag. So it makes those running
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  Speaker 3: backs a little bit difficult to figure out what's going
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  Speaker 3: to happen there. And then you get to the wide
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  Speaker 3: receivers for the Giants and who the hell knows. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: when when little Jordan Humphrey is in the conversation to
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  Speaker 3: be in your your top three, you know you're receiving
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  Speaker 3: cores and some some big trouble. So that's kind of
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  Speaker 3: where the Giants guys are at. So, yeah, it's going
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  Speaker 3: to be a lot of Hurts, it's going to be
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  Speaker 3: a lot of Barkley. I don't think as much AJ Brown.
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  Speaker 3: I would assume Hurts and Barkley probably end up close
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  Speaker 3: to around fifty in the Captains by combined, not obviously individually,
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  Speaker 3: but combined, somewhere right around fifty. I think anything else
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  Speaker 3: you do has a chance to go pretty low. Owed
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  Speaker 3: even Aj Brown, like AJ Brown, I think probably comes
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  Speaker 3: down a little bit just because he really hasn't done
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  Speaker 3: shit all year long. So I think he's a guy
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  Speaker 3: that I would be interested in. I'm fine playing those
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  Speaker 3: those top guys for sure. And it's tough on the
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  Speaker 3: giant side. I mean Dart obviously, I think is on
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  Speaker 3: playe just because the rushing upside. Maybe Wandale because he
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  Speaker 3: can catch a lot of passes like he if they
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  Speaker 3: are trailing. I mean he has a path to you know,
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  Speaker 3: seven eight, nine, ten catches and one hundred yards, So
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  Speaker 3: I think he's in the conversation a little bit. But really,
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  Speaker 3: the more I look at it, I think, you know,
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  Speaker 3: anything out of Hurts in Barkley is going to be
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  Speaker 3: not totally different, but you know it's going to be
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  Speaker 3: low owned.
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  Speaker 2: I guess to say, yeah, I'll go to you in
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  Speaker 2: a SEC title just on Captain Doughts. I got a
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  Speaker 2: good laugh at this one to start, But I get
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  Speaker 2: that Freebee, I'm eighty percent sure I can ship a
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  Speaker 2: six figure contest like that was some confidence there. So
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  Speaker 2: we'll keep rolling in with the comments. Let us know
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  Speaker 2: what you think happened to d d and we'll get
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  Speaker 2: it going from there, But title, what's your thoughts on
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  Speaker 2: how you're gonna handle the captain position tonight? We already
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  Speaker 2: had a thought process in there from our guy Ryan
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  Speaker 2: about you know, using Dart solo captain with five eagles.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you can do it. I mean Dart is gonna
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  Speaker 4: let's see his rushing at Temps prop. That's what I
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  Speaker 4: was most interested. And there's no doubt he's a running quarterback.
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  Speaker 4: He can use his legs and when he does have
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  Speaker 4: pressure on him. Seven and a half is his rushing
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  Speaker 4: at Temps prop. Nine and a half for Hurts, twelve
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  Speaker 4: and a half for Scatabo. So man, a guy that
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  Speaker 4: quarterback that helf the ball in the hand a lot
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  Speaker 4: is a seven point underdog that if they get in
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  Speaker 4: a bad game script or they're losing good game script
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  Speaker 4: for him, there's so many outs to get there. So
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  Speaker 4: when I played Dart, I'd probably still a more likely
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  Speaker 4: to play a pass catcher with him, at least one
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  Speaker 4: up top I'm talking or two just because of how
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  Speaker 4: cheap they are. And if he fully gets there at
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  Speaker 4: the captain position, I think he probably throws a touchdown
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  Speaker 4: or two and drake someone with but it's not out
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  Speaker 4: of the possibilities that Dart, captain, Nate or like with
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  Speaker 4: no pass catcher, five Eagles.
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  Speaker 1: Can get there.
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  Speaker 4: The Giants guys that I will be playing at captain
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  Speaker 4: is Dart because of his rushing upside of seven point dogs.
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  Speaker 4: Thel Johnson's my second favorite. He's Dart's favorite pass catcher. Like,
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  Speaker 4: I think it's pretty clear, big guy in the red zone.
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  Speaker 4: He's fifty eight hundred bucks. They're without so many other
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  Speaker 4: the receivers, so like it's Wandale and him, and I
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  Speaker 4: think those are the only three Giants captains I'll be
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  Speaker 4: playing Wandale, THEO, and Dart. Wando's my least favorite of
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  Speaker 4: the three. Seventy two hundred still a real price tag.
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  Speaker 4: The receiving prop wasn't great. I believe it was like
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  Speaker 4: forty four and a half. However, he's a PPR monster
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  Speaker 4: out of the slot, so if he gets you seven
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  Speaker 4: catches for sixty yards and a touchdown, that could be
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  Speaker 4: good up top. And I am good with some of
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  Speaker 4: these cheaper captains. I guess mainly Theo Johnson is the one,
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  Speaker 4: but on a slate with like the bo Cowns, Lil Jordans,
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  Speaker 4: so many, so much Uncerta down below, you could see
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  Speaker 4: a mid tier captain that gets you fifteen DK points
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  Speaker 4: and that's what you need to get the studs up top.
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  Speaker 4: Outside of those three, I don't think I'm going anyone
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  Speaker 4: on the Giants Eagles. Obviously Hurts, you can play him
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  Speaker 4: a lot of different ways. I always say it on
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  Speaker 4: Showdown slates and I'll continue I always prefer Aj Brown
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  Speaker 4: at captain than the flex. No changes here today. He
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  Speaker 4: either fully gets there, I hope, or he's reading his
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  Speaker 4: book on the sideline, which we got right on week
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  Speaker 4: one or whenever it was when he had two points.
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  Speaker 4: It's been a lot of bad games for him, but
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  Speaker 4: the explosions come in one.
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  Speaker 1: Of these days.
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  Speaker 4: Could clearly be now. He's obviously frustrated, has had plenty
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  Speaker 4: of talks with Hurts. I like Saquon, but I think
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  Speaker 4: I prefer Hurts and Aj Brown more than Saquon, So
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  Speaker 4: I could end up a little underweight there. The last one,
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  Speaker 4: DeVante Smith. I'm fine with it. He had a monster
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  Speaker 4: game last week. He's definitely going to be low owned.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like you're going to be on him, Tam,
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  Speaker 4: but like six percent for a guy that is a
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  Speaker 4: wide receiver two that has the one hundred plus yard
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  Speaker 4: two touched on upside. It feels wrong not to be
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  Speaker 4: on him, but kind of been different there.
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: You know, I'm a big KD guy and I don't
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: know why I treat it because Slim Reaper and then
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: I like Davante sow you nailed it. It's like we've
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: been doing these shows for years now. It's like, yeah,
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: that was my segue because I think that's the path, right,
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: It's gonna be Hurts Barkley conversation show up. However they
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: show up, they're both gonna be forty to fifty percent
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: of the captain ownership somewhere in that range. Even caught
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: forty to be Saved twenty twenty split it however, But
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: I think just naturally because the pricing night it's fourteen seven,
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: fourteen to four Brown versus Smith, I think it's the
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: natural progression right, is to go to Brown. I honestly
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: think even after that, people start thinking about like Dart
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: THEO Goddard, like how can I just make this all work?
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: And I have thoughts on that too, But I definitely
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: think Davante is a guy that I can go to
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: up top and I think there's tons of different ways
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: that you can use him, and I just I at
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: least see him being held in check and if you
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: have the stone, which if you don't have it yet,
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: you can get it for nineteen bucks for the next
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: five days for all the sports and all the events
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: and everything that's going on all access, including Sabersim. I
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: will say the stone tells the story right there and again,
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: even if you want to add ownership to aj Brown
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: and take it off of Smith, I don't think that'll happen.
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: It's probably pretty close to where we've got it, and
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: it'll change up to lock. But I still feel like
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: Devonte will stay somewhere and check there and it's pretty
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: close to the same thing on paper at least.
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: So one last thing looking at the stone for all
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: member it's pretty cool obviously now that we have more data,
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: that report card on there, the DVP all that it's
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: a fun time of year, that yeah, the stone's already
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: great but only gets better once we get more data.
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this thing helps huge and Hoop, I'll kick it
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: to you, but we definitely will be going through that
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: on the Monday review shows. NADS and I've been doing
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: the last couple of weeks and just showing out the
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: Stone mixed with Saber the color code like if you
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: are if you're strapped for time. I think people always
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: think it's like a sales pitch, like buy content content.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: It's like, it's honestly not. If you want to play
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: at a higher level, you're trying to do well in
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: these tournaments and try and win the big money. It
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: helps to have this stuff. There's so much information out there,
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: but we know that your time is limited, and that's
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: really where we get different and try and make it
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: easy for you. If you just have the Stone and
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: not time to read everything else or watch all the shows,
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: you can literally build with the Stone. The stack rankings,
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: very competitive lineup for showdown, for mainslay, whatever sport it
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: is you're playing. It makes your life a hell of
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: a lot easier, and that's why we give you the
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: trial to check it out. It's less than twenty bucks.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: You're probably spending more than that just tonight alone in DFS,
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: so do that, but I can't make it any easier
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: for you.
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: Go ahead, who Yeah, there's no like answer to DFS.
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: There's not one thing that is the answer. And if
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: you have it, you're going to be successful. We always
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: talk about each piece of content, each tool being a piece,
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: one piece, even the optimizer saber, Yes, saber is awesome.
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: It does a hell of a job. But that's just
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: one piece of the puzzle. Like you need other pieces
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: to make it all work. And that's why we try
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: to bring it all together, with the shows, with the content,
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: with the stone, with the discord, with the overall community,
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: just you know, bring all those pieces together and give
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: yourself a better chance. You know, we just happen to
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: do it at a much cheaper rate than the rest
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: of the competition, so we can do deals like this.
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: But I want to someone said I could use a
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: membership now, Like we've seen a lot of random like
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: YouTube names, right, and there's been some some very way,
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: can we get an explanation behind Shabby Wabby the watermelon
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: And if there's a good story behind this, you might
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: find yourself in that picture and the picture, Like I
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: need an explanation for all of this, the picture and
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: the name, and if there's a good story behind this,
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: a legit story, give us the truth, Like you might
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: find yourself with the membership because that stands out as
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: like super random, Shabby Wabby the watermelon like I need it.
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: We need the backstory in that one. We need it.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: That's a I was gonna bring that one up. Do
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: you have anything else? Who if you want to? Like again,
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: we went through some of them. What's your thoughts at it?
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: But I mean, like usually it's the difference of Saquon
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: and Hurts and then down from there. But what do
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: you think on this light for captains?
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I mean like the Hurts and Barkley, Like
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: the one thing about the Eagles, everyone's panicked and freaking
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: out about like the Eagles offense and you know AJ
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: Brown hasn't done this and Saquon hasn't done that. They're
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: the super Bowl champs and they're four and one, like
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: they're they're four and one. Like the panic is a
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: little overblowing, Like they're all They're gonna have a successful season,
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: They're gonna get better offensively moving forward. A. J. Brown's
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: gonna have big games, Saquon Barkley's gonna have big games.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: Hurts is DeVonta Smith is, Like they're totally fine. Like
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: the panic, I don't get so for the one game sample,
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: Like I want exposure to all the Eagles guys, because
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: I think they're all capable of going off. And the
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: one that stands out to me is definitely A J. Brown,
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: Like if he's gonna be under ten percent owned, like
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: I get he hasn't really he's had one game all year, like,
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: and I agree with what title said, like if I'm
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: playing him, I want it to be in the captain
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: because like, if it's him, it's gonna be him and
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: he's gonna go off, and like from what we've seen
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: this season, like if it's not him, it's a dud.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: So it's like perfect showdown captain sort of play. Here's
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: the here's the update. First job was selling alcohol in
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: high school. Sold a bottle of watermelon vodka to someone
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: and after a long night of drinking, that became my
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: nickname Shabby Webb. So he sold the watermelon vodka in
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: high school and that isn't that is an interesting way
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: to get get that sort of nickname. But yeah, like, uh,
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: shoot us an email because we'll get we'll get them
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: lined up.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: That's that's a that's a.
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: Solid, uh solid backstory.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: Babby with the first winners. Please send an email Shabby
• 20:41
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• 20:44
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• 20:47
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• 20:48
  Speaker 3: I like how he says the first his first job
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: in high first job was selling alcohol in high school.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: Like he went for like a job interview, Like, hey,
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: I want to be the salesperson for alcohol at the
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: at the high school. Like where do I apply?
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: Great story? Veto ban the man? He's in Discord, for sure,
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: you can check him out there, but Kenny said get
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: him in the this. I never bring up competitor stuff,
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: but today I just don't care. I'm in a mood.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: This is a good way, like when you are trying
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: to get a free membership from a site in the YouTube,
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: to just bring it up as not personal. We've had
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: told great stories about our g all of us used
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: to work at RPS. But we hear this a lot,
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: like people do want to change, get to a different community,
• 21:29
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• 21:32
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• 21:35
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• 21:37
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• 21:41
  Speaker 2: We'll get we're giving them all away. Who cares to
• 21:43
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• 21:46
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• 21:48
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• 21:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that move. I definitely like that.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: Not personal, it's just business. But I would say, like,
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: you know, if you want to let us know that.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: We get people that say at our pricing is affordable.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: That's the difference. The community is amazing. There's no beef,
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: there's no problems, and on top of that, we're giving
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: away a ton of money and having a ton of
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: fun doing that. Everyone's playing trying to play for the
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: same reasons. We're cheering each other on. If we're not
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: gonna win anyway. People make fun of Rickey Fowler given
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: the high fives on the side of the green. It's like,
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: you ain't gonna win anyway, Why wouldn't you cheer on
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: your friends and all your boys and girls, everybody that's
• 22:19
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• 22:20
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• 22:23
  Speaker 3: That is That is a good point because you can
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: apply it to the DFS too. When you know your
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: lineups are stone dead and you have zero chance. It's like,
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: all right, you still check out the leader born and
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: say can I root for? Can I root for any
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: of my boys? But that's what I mean personally, what
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: I do when I know I'm done and I have
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: nothing that's competitive, I look for ship at Nation logos
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: is there opposite.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Of most plays. I know other sites will say they'll
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: cheer for their logos. I'm talking about like when Rio's
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: up top the other night and I'm dead, there's like
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: literally no way I can catch them on points behind them,
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: like like damn, like I can't get it. So I'm like,
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: I'm now I'm rooting for Rio, like please don't have
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: this thing happen at the end. But other people just don't.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: I don't think a lot of people do that. They
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: usually are cheering against people because it's like they're not
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: winning or they're not getting it their way. We all
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: want to win, but you got to take your lumps
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: along the way and then you'll get your positives when
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: they come your way. So certainly something I believe in
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: a ton I know the rest of us are all
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: the same. Title hoop also, so yeah, that's really what
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: it's all about. Title you got anything else. You can
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: pick a free winner soon too. There's been some good
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: comments I tag some others. We'll definitely take care of people.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: But anything else to add at the captain spot. If not,
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: you can go into more on the quarterback or just
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: running back I think is more important to get into next.
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm still looking at comments. I need nothing stood
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: out yet though we got some time as far as
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: quarterbacks running backs. Yeah, I don't really have much more
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: at the captain like. The interesting spot is when we're
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: talking flex mainly the guys like Scatabo and Tracy because
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: they're both over at price with Tracy coming back. The
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: thing is I kind of want to embrace that mark.
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: I think this is where it depends what contest you're playing.
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: If I'm playing a three hundred man like contest, I'm
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: probably not going to get to scatabow as much, whereas
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: I'm playing the eighty eight thousand contests the flag Ship like,
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: you get rewarded more when you are right, So overspend
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: on a guy like Scatabo. We just thought I believe
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: it was Week two against the Chiefs, maybe when he
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: was the captain in the week two three. They're kind
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: of blending in, but Tracy was playing. They lost like
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: twenty two to nine. Scatibo was the captain optimal in
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: that game. He can catch passes. I mean he's a
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: great pass blocker, Like I think he is the running
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: back one. I'd be shocked if Tracy outsnapped him. Now,
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: what is it sixty forty? Is it seventy thirty? Like
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: that's what we don't know yet. But overpriced at ten k.
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: But a guy that, I mean, he's a beast like
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: they love him for the Giants. He does so many
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: good things right on the football field. You reward guys
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: like that at seven point dogs, you probably want to
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: take the air out of the football early. I think
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: Scatabo is the guy, so I'll probably be overweight in
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: the flex. I don't even hate him at captain. We
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: are showing three percent at captain he falls in the
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: box twice. Like again, when you do that, especially handbuilding,
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: like you can pick a game script. If Scatabo captain,
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: he gets there twice more times times than not, I
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: think they're winning. However, he did show that he can
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: still do that and get there at captain optimal in
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: the lower scoring game. Obviously pricing was different, But I
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: don't like Tracy much as seven K at all.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: I'm more likely to overspend for scatabo at.
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: Ten K, Will Schipley AJ Dillon like man four four
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: and four K. That's just really hard to get to
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: when we got like these giants receivers. I'd even prefer
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: Johan Dotson for thirty four hundred Bellinger like.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: Backup tight ends. I don't know if I can really
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: get to those guys.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was trying to find it too. I'll bring
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: it up in a minute. But the joie who started
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: this whole things that having community like this helps keep
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: my rooting itfter just going throughout the whole game. Slash
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: Slate certainly appreciate that. And Nickel, I think it's tonight,
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: are you guys doing that show? Yeah, the UF tonight,
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: So at least two more membership giveaways tonight, but you
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: got to watch the show live, so get to the
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: show tonight. Title's gonna head it up. We're gonna give
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: away two more memberships on the show tonight as well,
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: So excited for that. And then remember keep the like
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: button going. We got the head to head the first
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: person to try and take down Hoopster five and oh
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: we got that winner coming soon, and see if somebody
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: could take them down this week a chance at a
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: golden ship it but hoop running back your thoughts.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: Kind of the uh, kind of the same. I mean,
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: like definitely Barkley. I mean, I think totally fine. In
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: all four meats, we already kind of talked about it.
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: The Scatterboo Tracy situation is tough. Like, if I were
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: to guess, like I think they probably ease Tracy back
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: into the mix here a little bit. It's obviously on
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: a cut into the workload for Scataboo, but like, if
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: anyone's gonna get there, to me, it's gonna be Scataboo
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: over Tracy. I just don't see how you can play
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: Tracy is titled changing.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: Is that a belly shirt? Do you see that?
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: I yet, what was going on?
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Dude?
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Were you wearing a bell? Are you wearing a belly shirt? Like?
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: All I saw was like you're half your back in
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: your shirt? Like what are you talking on a belly shirt?
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: Someone?
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: Someone definitely saw that. I swear to god, I was
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: hot in here. It's like a Sawnas I took my
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: sweatshirt off. It's like when I looked up yet I
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: looked again.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: What are you saying of belly shirt?
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: Come on new gear on the side. Soon we're getting titles,
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: prop tops.
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: I can send you some ship at Nation t shirts
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: if you if you're I'll take someone. I won't say no,
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: but yeah, it's like man like definitely Barkley and then.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: Back to the fan.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: Uh, you know Scataboo because Tracy's back is going to
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: be low owned on a low scoring slate, like I
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: think he can. He can definitely get there, like I
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: can't play Tracy at the seven K. I think he
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: probably gets eased back into it a little bit. Scataboo
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: has looked pretty good, but these other guys like how
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: in the world can you pay four K for Dylan
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: or forty four for Shipley, Like I'll just be axing
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: those guys out, and even Devin Singletary two thousand like
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: with with Tracy back, so I think it's probably just
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: like Barkley and then some Scataboo. I mean, Skataboo is
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: gonna come in low. I guess there is probably a
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: world where it's still mostly Scataboo, and then Tracy just
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: mixes in a little bit first game back Thursday night situation.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: So yeah, it's you know, a lot of barkley and
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: then maybe like some scataboo, but that's it. Like these
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: other guys are all like massively overpriced, and they're overpriced
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: to the point where it's like they got to do.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: They gotta do a lot. I mean definitely a touchdown,
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: probably touchdown plus I'll say they got to do more
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: than just a touchdown. So I'm out on those other ones.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: That's my guy, Allan.
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: If you don't got a membership, you just won one
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: because you are absolutely money.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: Oh gosh, Yeah, I.
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: Was wondering that's how you pronounce it, and Andrew be better. Alan,
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: My man, he knows what's good in Michigan. You got
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: to go up a couple more hours and then you
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: really be hearing the popper pronounciation.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: Canada, we have those accents, and I still don't think
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: they call it a s every time they say it.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: I'm like what, I'm like, what is this guy saying?
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: Like the finish?
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: My grandparents way up in the up way up north
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: from Hoop Salana in their backyard, they build them their
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: plenty out there. Yeah, youper there you go, Holton Calum
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: Matt Hancock.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: That's hyah.
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: Every time you say that word, I just hope you
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: I'm praying that you eventually just start saying it the
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: normal way.
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: But you can never say it because the uper will
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: not say that. Alan, my guy, let's go.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: Alan, You're the literally the only person I've ever heard
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: say it like that, like no joke. I've never heard
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: Sauna like that.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: Rails is good, by the way. I had to put
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: my guy up on the screen because I'm still I'm
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: committed to this tonight. If I can win five hundred k,
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: I said it would be a million. But if I
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: can win five hundred k with scat, I'm getting that
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: chain that says Tambo and I'm rocking it on every
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: I swear to God, so sick. I just want to
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: have it. It's the same five letters across Tambo put
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: a little I think he's got a forty four on
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: and I'll put like a twenty two. That's that's the
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: number I like, So t T two two get that on.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: There have it. So maybe maybe I'll try and get
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: him into the lineups tonight. But I still think this
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: will be the spot where he's a little lower owned
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: than he could have obviously a lot lower than he
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: would have been if you don't get a guy like
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Tracy back. But my point being he didn't come through
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: for us all the times we needed him, so of
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: course he's going to come through on the slate when
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: Tracy's back, when they're underdogs at home and so on
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: and so forth. So I actually do have a little
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: bit of interest in scat tonight anyway, just paying up
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: for probability. He's two hundred bucks less than Dart, He's
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: only a thousand less than Hurts and guys like that.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: So it's it's definitely gonna be unique to play them.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: But like Titles nailed it, it's the tournaments that you're
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: playing in. I'm definitely playing in the main. I can't
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: win five hunder k and buy a SCAT chain that
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: says Tamba unless I play in that tournament. So that's
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: where I'm thinking about using them and going a little
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: bit crazier there. Like will Shipley, guys like that can
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: probably get in where they fit in when it comes
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: to those lineups as well, because you're taking shots on them.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: But how would anybody know else? I think even last
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: game they got the same touches for like Shipley and
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: Dylan and and so there's things like that. So it's
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: just like those are just going to be flyers in
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: the lineup. Wop. I'll go back to you. You were talking
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: about wide receiver earlier. Both you made good points about
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: Brown up top and if he's getting there, it's all
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: the way. But obviously you could see him in the
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: I gues seem the flex with like Hertz captain lineups
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: a ton. But outside of that, what are you doing
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: at wide receiver, especially on the Giant side with some
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: of the random wide receiver roulette over there?
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the eagle side is fairly easy. I
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: mean it's aj Brown, it's DeVonta Smith. And then if
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: you want to play a cheapy you know Jahan Dots
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: and he probably needs a touchdown you're not going to
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: get You're not going to get the get dots and
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: getting there on volume. It has to be like a
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: touchdown or along play. And you know, I don't think
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: it's very very likely you can keep them in the middle.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: The Giants thought it was obviously interesting, but like title said,
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: you probably need to wait for inactives.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: To see you know who's in who's out.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: I mean, people are talking about Little Jordan Humphrey, and
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: like I said in the opening, like I've been a
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: proponent of Little Jordan. It was a nice little bit
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: last year, more so a bit than anything else. But like,
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: if they're depending on Little Jordan Humphrey, like their passing
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: attack is probably probably in trouble. But if he is active,
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: he's two hundred bucks, should be low owned. You can
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: play him. Wanda Robinson, I like quite a bit on
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: this lay, Like if you think the Eagles are I mean,
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: he fits any sort of build, Like if you think
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: the Eagles are playing with a lead and the Giants
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: are trailing, he can rack up a ton of catches,
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: no neighbors, no slate, and I think he's fine. Jalen
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: Hyatt's one of these guys that everyone hypes up, has
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: been hyping up for a while, and he's never done shit.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: Thirty two hundred. He's going to have an opportunity tonight
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: to potentially do something. I'm sure he'll he'll disappoint, but
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: to need him in the player pool. And then this
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: Bo Collins guy, same thing three k You know what
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: can he do?
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: So whoever's active for.
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: The Giants wide receivers, you probably want him in the
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: player pool because the range of outcomes is so wide
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: for these guys, Like who knows what they're thinking. The
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: one secure player would say for the Giants is one
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: Dale Robinson. After that, it's it's pretty wide open or
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: very wide open, probably mixing in anyone any wide receiver
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: that's active for the Giants. I think you want to
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: keep him your player pool and get some exposure to
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: if you're building a lot of lineups, Like if you're
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: building a lot, obviously, if you're building a few lineups,
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: you don't need to do that. If you're building fifty
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: or more, you probably want some exposure to these guys
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: because again, the range of outcomes is is pretty wide.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: But I just I think it's I think it's going
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: to be an AJ Brown Knight. Some something has me
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: leaning that direction, just because we haven't seen it. But
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: I do agree with what title said though, like if
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: playing him, it's it's probably more. It's definitely more in
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: the Captain I think, I just I love him up there.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: I will play him in the flex too, but uh,
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: I think a J. Brown is a big night tonight.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is another one here. This is he said,
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: people call a winter hat a toboggan. Maybe he's talking
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: about a sled or toboggan is the thing, but usually
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: the winter hat thing is a tu versus a beanie.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: That's that's the other one that.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: I've never heard to you, No, what's it? Now?
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: That's got me thinking about the Now that's got me
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: thinking about the people in the sauna that have you
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: ever seen the people bro Like even even even Jordan's
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: in here, he's in the cave, he goes, never, man,
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: I say it like hoop the normal way like that.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: You're literally the only.
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: Person What were you saying though about to have the
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: people that wear have you seen the people that wear
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: those hats in the sauna?
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: Like the little it's like a little duns cap. It's
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: like looks like a felt thing some of them. That's
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: why that's why they're calling it the wrong name. They
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: don't even know what they're doing in there.
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: Because they say it it keeps the heat around your
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: head or something. So it's like a lot of old
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: timers where people will someone in the chat will will know.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: What I'm talking about.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: But it got me that that comment got me thinking,
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: but so what was the original one. It's like a toboggan.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: I went to college and people.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: That is definitely a thing. But the Canadian thing is
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: the tuc versus tuke versus beanie. They call it beanie
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: in the States when you wear your winter hat on or.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah beanie, Yeah yeah, you never heard of a tu.
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: I will say, like back on, like I keep clicking
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: that you do. I do not think you should build
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: any of your teams before we get in actives today.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: I think it's one.
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: Of the most lights you kind of can't on showdown,
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: Like right now, there's no prop on DraftKings for Little
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: Jordan's yards and all that, but we think he's gonna
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: get called up, but it will change ownership projections. I
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: would not build until an actives come out and we
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: send it in discord that everything's good to rock.
• 35:54
  Speaker 6: Yeah, big Sabersim update just came out, so we just
• 35:56
  Speaker 6: alerted our discord to go check it out. But there's
• 35:58
  Speaker 6: a new Saberscore met there's a new lineup, management, new
• 36:03
  Speaker 6: visual updates, lineup selection, NHL updates for the the Utah
• 36:07
  Speaker 6: team logo. Man Sheets is excited about and then some
• 36:10
  Speaker 6: some ui ux changes.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: So again, if you want to check out Sabersim, now's
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: the time to do it. Even the Freshnest update, you
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: can get it this week. You get the five days
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: for nineteen bucks with code ship nineteen. That's on any
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: monthly all access plans. You can try out anything you
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: want for this five day stretching and get it all
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: covered there. And yeah, people got to get the spelling like,
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: it's it's not even it's not a took. That's like
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: people put is it a took or a t uk e. No,
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: it's uh, you know, guys nuke the slate. It's not.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: It does sound like it could be like two like that,
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: but no, it's a It's t o que is how
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: they spell it.
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: Soa shirts I looked up and your entire lower abdomen
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: was exposed. I mean it was a quick like glance.
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: I saw that. I was like, is this dude really word?
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, he forgot he was on. He pulled the
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence from the other night.
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: Right, Yes, yeah, that's what I thought we caught him in.
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: And he's like, oh Manler like this whole time because
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: you're like, the joke is you know the news anchors
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: are people on camera only you know, waiste up, like
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: are they really wearing pants? Are they sitting there in
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: their undies? With title It's like man like, not only
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: are we wondering if he's wearing pants or not, but
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: does he have a shirt that goes like like below
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: the chest area?
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: He thinks he thinks he's in the sauna. I felt like.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: I felt like I was in one. I'm still sweating.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: That's good, all right, I'm losing track. Okay, one thing,
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: we definitely want to make sure we get too quick guys,
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: the head to head winners. So just eight eight more
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: people hit the thumbs up button so we can knock
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: this one out and get the eighteenth Golden Ship at
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: winner of the fifty available. And it is not too late.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: You can still get into ship at games anytime. You'll
• 37:48
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• 37:50
  Speaker 2: is game number three. But you can go to ship
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: at games dot com, or you can go to ship
• 37:54
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• 37:56
  Speaker 2: two hundred and seventy six dollars at the top. It
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: will take you directly to that all right wide receiver
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: anything else their title you want to add, or anybody
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: else you want to you want to hit on. If not,
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: we could keep it rolling.
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: I just I could see with thirty two hundred high
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: at three k Collins, I could see we have thirteen
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: or we have eighteen percent hiat thirteen Collins, I wouldn't
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: be surprised if that gap was a little wider, And
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: if so, I guess just naturally that would lead me a.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: Little to Collins.
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: Props are similar, sixteen and a half high at thirteen
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: and a half Collins with Lil Jordan all the way
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: at two hundred. Though if he does get called up,
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: like you can leave money just going from Bow to
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: Humphrey or something like that. The last thing I'll mention,
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: no one ever plays Johan Dotson rightfully. So, but he
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: was on the winner week one. Only three catches for
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: fifty nine yards to eight point nine was enough. If
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: it's very condensed on both sides, he could be who you.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: Need down below.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: But that's all I got, all right, we can take
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: it to tight end. Our man, Allen is a founding
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: family member, So shout out to Allen. We really appreciate that.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: He said he sent you a message but maybe he's
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: got a plan for that, but in by all means
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: you can check that out after. But yeah, tight end
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: is definitely being talked about today with Goddard with THEO,
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: but either side, and then you've got the chat talking
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: about Granson right now as well. I think it was
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: didn't Bellinger catch one last week too or got close
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: to it? I thought they tried to get him in there,
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: so I know THEO caught a couple, but just of note,
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: those are sort of the thought process here at the
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: tight end position. Title.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's no gran kelc and Terra.
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: That's why people are mentioning grantson backup tight end Calcaterra
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: not in there's gonna be more snaps and routes and
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: stuff to go for him. So he's all the way
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: down there at two hundred bucks, and if Lil Jordan's
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: two hundred as well, like Lil Jordan will probably be
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: a lot higher on So.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: I don't mind Grandson at all. One touchdown could be enough.
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: And the Giants they ran plenty of two tight end
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: sets when Darius Slayton went down with the hammy. They
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: ran a lot of Bellinger, THEO, Johnson, THEO Johnson already
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: Jackson Dart's favorite pass catcher in my opinion, so he
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: looks really strong. I think Bellinger, though, is really interesting
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: at twenty eight hundred. I'm prefer him over Hyatt and
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: Collins right now. I just think he's going to be
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: on the field a lot more. He'll have a lot
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: more easy receptions, and Dart's going to look for his
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: all reliable tight ends. So I think tight End's very strong.
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: Goddard really not much you need to say about that.
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: Everyone knows who Gottard is. But tight ends are very
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: very viable on this late you could play three, like
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: someone just said, I have no problem with that at all.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: He'd be crazy. Three tight ends on the winner. That'd
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: be nuts Hoop. Before I go to you on this,
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: we will announce it, so we hit it. We appreciate
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: you guys. Let's keep it rolling. If we get to
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: one fifty quick, we'll do the next one asap. If not,
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: we'll do it at the end of the show. But
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: just to note, the winner of Golden Ship at number eighteen,
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: they will play against Hoop in the head to head
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: this upcoming Sunday to try and take down his five
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: to zero record to start the season and then also
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: will automatically be in for the Round one of the finals,
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: the final fifty. Only fifty people can win golden shippits.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: You can only win one and they will play down
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: in week seventeen to be able to move on to
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: round one of the playoffs, Round two of ship At
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: Games where they will play for a twenty thousand or
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: more cash first prize. That's part of joining ship At
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: Nation just being a member for NFL only football only,
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: I should say, with college football in there or all
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: access as long as you're a monthly or more member,
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: so you can check it out for five days see
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: if you want to stick around and then get into
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: the games like that. The winner is another longtime member
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: excited to see this one. So number eighteen of fifty
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: is Thomas McCurdy. So we appreciate you, Thomas, and thanks
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: for being with us. I think it's we have a couple,
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: like we have Philly Phantom, Philly Fan, Philly whatever this is.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: This is Philly Fan. I think it's like two thousand
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: and ten or something like that. It's a different user
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: name than Philly Fandom. Shout out to our guy, Philly Fantom.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: As well. But Thomas, congrats, man, this is awesome. So
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: Thomas will be the first to well, we'll see try
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: to be the first to take down Hoopster on Sunday.
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: Hoop Your thoughts on Thomas getting the.
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: W after I go to Stixon, Oh, I mean we're
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: gonna be going from Thomas McCurdy to calling in Thomas
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: mcturty because there's no way he's taking down Whoo, it's
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: over McCurdy to Turty.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: I like it, you're getting the one. Like he's still
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: working on them. Title, he's still working on them for us,
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: so we got to let him just work through it right. Well,
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: he'll get there eventually. That was a pretty good one though,
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: to give him that. So yeah, congrats to Thomas. Sean
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: knows them. Sean says hoop is definitely cooked this week.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: These guys know Thomas.
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: The competition has been a little better than Aids in
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: week one, so I will I will give I will
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: give the crew some credit. I hate to go back
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: to that same story, but like ten seconds, building alignmup
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: and smoking Naids is fun.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: I think that'll be like the wheelchair. Three years from now,
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: you're going to be talking about that aids the wheelchair
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: to get brought up today. People, I know it did.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: I was dying. People tried sneaking it back in.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: Oh, this is a good one too, our man Wardo.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: He's getting excited for NBA. I know that. Shout with
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: the Wardo in their daily nightly, overnight, you name it.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: He's living a full time shift. In the discord, he says,
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: you should have said he's cooked like my steaks, well done.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: Damn you should have sent me a d with that.
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: One would have been so that's.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: Amazing, shout the Brittany in the chat. We got a
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: dad joke, Detroit says. And then Nid's what did Nate say?
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: Bellinger is the right back up tight end. We'll see
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: gotta see if he's the guy tonight. But yeah, I
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: think the biggest thing for me Goddard and Naids knows this.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: We got this is a good slate for Gottard up
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: in the Captain. This was the one that Nad's and
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: I chopped a couple of years ago when you had
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: a everyone on a five to one for the Phillies.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: We ended up building a three three with Goddard up top.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: And you can get there honestly like this, especially by
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: the way, if we get some so I guess I'll
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: lump all this together and then we go to kickers
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: and d's. But the thing about the tight end, or
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: if you can pick like a, I don't know who
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: else would be. Not many people fit the Dotson I
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: guess kind of fits this. But if you could get
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: to something like this up top, it will give you
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: a different build, obviously, But I mean in the sense
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: of if we get Lil Jordan Humphrey, if we get
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: the people trying to put in the Grantson's and those guys,
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: if they don't come through and you need a more
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: balanced build to get the job done. That's where, like
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: Hoop said earlier, these may not be your highest scoring captains,
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: but they may make the full lineup work and you
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: may see those lineups get to the top. Remember it's
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: not always the players, though they are the players that
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: make up your lineup, but it's the whole lineup that
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: gets you up to the top. And you got to
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: think about that when you're building out, as if those
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: two hundred dollars players fail, what does what happens? What
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: does that mean? And how does that build your lineup differently,
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: So I think that's where like THEO and Goddard become
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: a little bit interesting. But guys like Bellinger and Grantson
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: and those guys will be mixed into the pool in
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: the one fifty set for sure. All right, hoop anything
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: else there if not kickers d's.
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I do. I like, just to add on
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: to the tight end stuff. I think THEO Johnson's a
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: phenomenal play. I mean, with these young quarterbacks that have
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: shown the ability to target tight ends, he usually don't
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: go away from it, and if they're trailing, like he could,
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: he could rack up a lot. So I do like him.
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: I'm good with Bellinger kickers d's, you know, definitely prefer
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: the Eagle side here with Elliott and Eagles defense, you
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: know the other I don't even know how to pronounce
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: the Giants kicker, that dude, and then the Giants defense
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: not a ton of interest, but definitely in on Elliott
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: and Eagles.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: Jude is the dude tonight Field goals to that guy?
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: What do you think? Title? What do you got?
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: I like all of them, like both defenses and kickers.
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: The reason is obviously, like hurts can take sex. I
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: do prefer Eagles defense over the Giants. We just saw
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: with the Saintstid to Dart like man, he's because he's
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: so athletic, and he uses his legs like it's still
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: a transition from college ball to pro ball. You can
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: see him make a lot of mistakes. One play can
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: change everything. Giant can get after hurts a little bit.
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: Elliott I like mcanton me I like, but a lot
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: of that has to do with just like Hyatts, Bo Collins.
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: We can even throw Goddard in there, THEO Johnson who
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: he liked, but will Shipley AJ Dillon like that. Rang
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: just isn't really good at all. Defenses have forty eight
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: minutes to go.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: Make a play.
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: One play can change anything, a punt return, et cetera.
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: Kickers if they stall out. I think I prefer Giants.
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: I don't know, it's close. The reason I was gonna
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: say I prefer Giants kicker to Eagles is any time
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: it's like third and two, you can touch push it
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: twice and they get the first down and then they
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: don't kick as much. But I just I really don't
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: like the mid tier range that much. I could easily
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: see him be in the highest scores in their own
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: respective rains. So I think I'll be close to the field,
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: if not overweight and all four.
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be tricky for again, it's all how
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: you build and what type of story you're telling the
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: Giants are I don't know. I don't even know because
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: with Dart at the helm, that's the thing people found
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: out last week and some of the hard way myself
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: included in certain spots with lineups where it's like, if
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: you don't think he's gonna throw as much, but man,
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: when he did throw, it was just like autot It
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: felt like so again, not saying that'll happen again. But
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: the tricky part is it's like, do you think if
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: the Giants are down seventeen to nothing, do they kick
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: the field goal just to put I think that the
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: first one they kicked the field goal to put the
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: points on the board, of course, But I'm saying the
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: further that goes on now we're talking about third midway
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: through the third quarter into that, do they keep pressing
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: because let's just let this kid go and see what
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: he's got. Let's keep grinding through it and see or
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: do they kick the second field goal in the third
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: field goal and just get their nine points. In that scenario,
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: what do you think title.
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: I think if it's like four, if you're down seventeen
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: to three, ors if you're down seventeen or fourteen midway
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: through the third and you got fourth and sixth or greater,
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: I think they're going for it.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: I'm not.
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: I'm not gonna put the Giants in that much of
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: poverty as who the fricking Jets or the Bengals like
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: those got those two teams that made some of the
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: worst punting.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: You've never down forty to nothing and kicked the fielder
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: thirty seven nothing last week?
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: You can forget what it was me and whoever was
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: playing the Colts, right, wasn't it?
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: The Raiders?
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: Was the Raiders?
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: I think? So it was bad man, it was they
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: were you know, yeah, Raiders. I kept laughing to you.
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: I was like that stuff. I don't get how that
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: is not a fireable offense. I know, it's horrible. Like
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: coaches like it doesn't like you you do not do that,
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: like you just do anything. But that is just the.
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: Most formal coaches are just idiots, man, They're just not
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: They're just dumb people.
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: And I think being an idiot though, Like how did
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: you become one of the only people in the history
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: of the world that became an NFL coach and you
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: do that and that's excusable, Like I never understand that,
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: Like just get blown out. I don't care anything. Don't
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: do that.
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: In analytics guy. Every single team should have an analytics
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: guy above in the headset. If you need a close decision,
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: you asked for it. If it's fifty to forty eight,
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: you know your game it's sixty three thirty seven. There's
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: no thinking.
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: That's all egos.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: These guys get to the top and they think they're
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: the smartest person alive, so it doesn't matter, Like they
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: don't they don't think they need to rely on anyone
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: else to make the decisions because they're smarter than everyone else.
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: Like that's like I'm the.
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: Title on getting an analytics person the Ravens got in
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: a while. It hasn't helped them this year, obviously, but
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: they've been on it forever. So I love that when
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: teams do it, because there is tricky spots and there
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: is stuff we follow the box on X and stuff.
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: It's like this means this, this means this, Like you
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: got to think through it. But that's what I'm saying.
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: If you somehow become a coach in the NFL, there
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: has to be some level of brain to get to
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: that acceptance of that job and that role. And then
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: it's forty to nothing that you don't need analytics. There's
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: no like, it's literally nothing there that you need. Told.
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: That's I don't get how these people do this, but yeah, anyway,
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: it's a long rent for no reason. I'm sure other
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: people don't care as much. I just think it's crazy
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: to me how that stuff still happens. But yeah, anything
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: else title you got for Kickers d and if not,
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: maybe kick off the FanDuel conversation. Who will take a
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: look and we'll round up FanDuel, get to the final
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: ship at games winner and move on.
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, nothing for that.
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: Just looking at FanDuel, I mean, it's pretty similar as
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: most of the slates have been. We don't have like
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: a one K mac Jones, but Hurts and Saque are
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: going to get all the ownership at the captain position.
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: Then you'll get Brown Dart. Even if you're playing Brown
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: and Darted, that's different enough. Any pricing differences that I'm
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: seeing on both sites.
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: Looks like those cheap Giants guys are even cheaper on
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: on FanDuel Hyatts twenty two and then Bo Collins is
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: eighteen hundred very.
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: Little Jordan min price at one k Calcntara's cheap down
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: there as well. I think because the kicking pricing and
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: the defense pricing, I think defenses will be, like with
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: Philly Defense, higher than all three of them. I think
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: maybe they're a little lower Kickers, maybe a little higher.
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: Tracy a lot better price on FanDuel at five to eight.
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: Still not something I'm too excited about, but versus seven
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: k on DK Scatabo's eleven k, so he's really expensive.
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: Still, THEO looks cheap. Dotson's down there. It looks really
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: similar to DK.
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: It just I think, like Coop kind of mentioned the
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: Giants receivers, the cheapis will probably be even higher owned.
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: So if you're gonna play Saquan or Hurts up top
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: and then use the Giants receivers as the fillers down
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: cheap and leave no salary, I think you're getting a
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: little too chalky there.
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's something to be said, Jeff, Like the they
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: did kick the field goal, that's where analytics would say,
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: you're playing the Indianapolis Colts, you suck and they're good,
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: and they're at home and they're about to crush you.
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: They probably shouldn't kicked that field goal either, But that's different,
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: like get a game, start to get momentum. The only
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: thing I can say it was the fourth quarter they
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: were down forty to three. Maybe there's like a mindset
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: of like, don't let these guys feel like losers. Let's
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: say we got another drive that added points. Again, I
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: can never validate it in my brain at least, but
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like the funniest part of that is
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: the analytics probably were to go for the touchdown in
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: the first quarter, and if you don't get it, so
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: be it. You need points. It's like when people used
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: to play the Chiefs when they were on top of
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: the world, and it was like you're trying to get
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: field goals against this team like they're gonna put up
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: thy plus you're just you're never going to get there
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: that way. So we got to see. But what else
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: do we got here? We got some news actually coming
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: soon for the NBA season. We're excited. Yeah, our man
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: rio heads everything up over there for the NBA side
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: of things, and we might have a little more fun
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: coming your way this season, so it'll be a really
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: beneficial thing to all of our members. And then yeah,
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: I'm excited for that too, So you know, just hitting it.
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: We got NHL just came back, nas is covering it,
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: and the NBA just around the corner hoop. Anything else
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: on that or with FANDUL stuff you want to mention.
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: No, the only other guy that looks cheap or cheaper
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: than on DK is THEO Johnson. I mean he's substantially
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: lower than the kickers and defense at fifty fifty two hundred,
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: so he's you know, fifteen hundred cheaper than the kickers
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: and defenses you know, on average, So I definitely like
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: him at fifty two. But uh yeah, yeah, really nothing
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: else to add.
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's actually a good point too, because even
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: you compare like Goddard sixty four hundred, fred on DraftKings
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: eight thousand versus fifty two hundred. So yeah, it's pretty
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: pretty wild on the price difference there at the tight
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: end position. But again, you can mix them at your
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: lineup however you like. I do think tonight's interesting for
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: some like don't for me. I'm just I don't want
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: to be all in on five one builds or something
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: with the Eagles. I know people get all excited for that,
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: and especially it is nice when you get like two
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: hundred dollars plays or like cheaper options, or you fit
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: in a Dots center, a Grant Center something there that's
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: cheap enough to make it all work, and you can
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: definitely still get different with it. We saw it with
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: Mahomes lineups the other night. I ended up getting I
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: still was underweight, but I had like a bunch that
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: they left like four grand five rand on the table,
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: like you could get that tonight with Hurts lineups or
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: Barkley lineups. No problem. So you can get different with
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: your five ones and four two's. But I also think
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: it's worth remembering that the other team is still gonna
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: be pushing it. They're still gonna try and do things.
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: And that was where the conversation with Nads and I
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: came up. A few years ago, or I guess two
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: or three years ago now, But like the Goddard captain
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: that night everyone was on Philly five to one, it
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: ended up being Goddard at the captain with it was Hurts.
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: It was the backup running back at the time gain Well,
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: and then it ended up being the three Houston guys
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: that were supposed to get blown out. It was the quarterback,
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: the running back, and the wide receiver, and it was
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: like that just made sense. You only just gonna hit
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: those two guys all night long. It might be a
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: little bit lower scoring, that just counts as the raw
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: points in the flex and boom it got there. So yeah,
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: anything can happen on these slates. I wouldn't commit too
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: much to one bild just because the blowout is gonna happen.
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, look at the title Super Bowl win one
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: hundred and thirteen K plus the Philly blowout did happen,
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: and still a two to four Chiefs line up got
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: there with a Chiefs Captain Mahomes and the flex and
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: then the rest from there. So yeah, I think this
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: is a good slate title. You got any final thoughts
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: before we do the last winner?
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: Nope? Uh yeah, it's a good slate.
• 54:46
  Speaker 4: I just do not build, or at least I highly
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: recommend not building until we get in actives because those
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: like I know, like Jalen Carter like got downgraded a bit.
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: I think he plays, but there's something on the defensive
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: side of the ball too that could change things a bit.
• 55:02
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  Speaker 2: else to put into this, and then there's full one
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  Speaker 2: year ultimate memberships forty three hundred plus value that the
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  Speaker 2: top three are getting. The top fifty also still get
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  Speaker 2: an Ultimate membership three twenty one for a month. So
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  Speaker 2: lots of information if you want to go check it out.
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  Speaker 2: But that's the way to do it. Congrats again to Stewart.
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  Speaker 2: That's gonna do with this guy for this week, guys,
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