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All-Wheel Steering Explained; Auto History: Some Karting ideas and First Look At The Land Rover Range Rover! · In Wheel Time Podcast

• 0:08
  Jeff Dziekan: Yeah.
• 0:11
  Jeff Dziekan: But uh it was first popularized in the 80s.
• 0:14
  Jeff Dziekan: Uh four-wheel steering or four WS is all-wheel steering, uh AWS is all-wheel steering, relatively common, but all-wheel steering uh does have uh uh certain benefits and also has certain things that you really don't want to get involved in.
• 0:29
  Jeff Dziekan: So rear-wheel steering vehicles utilize a system where rear wheels can turn in conjunction or with opposite to the front wheels, enhancing maneuverability and stability.
• 0:38
  Jeff Dziekan: The system allows the rear wheels to turn in either direction or in the same direction as the wheels call parallel for stability at high speeds.
• 0:46
  Jeff Dziekan: Why four-wheel steering you might ask?
• 0:48
  Jeff Dziekan: Mike was asking this.
• 0:49
  Jeff Dziekan: Uh car manufacturers fit four-wheel steering in various reasons.
• 0:53
  Jeff Dziekan: High speeds, rear steering, uh rear wheels normal to turn in the same direction as the front wheels, as whereas at low speeds they would turn in an opposite direction.
• 1:02
  Jeff Dziekan: These drive-by-wire systems usually have no physical linkage between the steering wheel and the rear wheels, unlike earlier mechanical steering.
• 1:09
  Jeff Dziekan: That's comforting to know.
• 1:10
  Jeff Dziekan: Yeah.
• 1:11
  Jeff Dziekan: Uh is it the same?
• 1:12
  Jeff Dziekan: Well, since all cars' front wheels are steered in the front wheel, uh and some are referred to as rear steering vehicles, that would be like a forklift or a rear skid turning uh device, uh, but not strictly correct.
• 1:27
  Jeff Dziekan: It refers to a vehicle that has fixed front wheels and steered by the rear wheels only, such as a forklift truck.
• 1:32
  Jeff Dziekan: That's just data.
• 1:34
  Jeff Dziekan: Now, four-wheel steering is used most popular uh to handle on the best sports cars and maneuverability of some of the biggest SUVs and truck models.
• 1:42
  Jeff Dziekan: It's a great way to aid the handling of a large heavy-duty truck or large heavy-duty SUV and appears to be more nimble and agile as they would otherwise be.
• 1:51
  Jeff Dziekan: It's usually found in more expensive vehicles and not regarded to be worth the complexity, weight, and extra cost on your everyday small vehicles like your Hondas, your Toyotas, and things.
• 2:01
  Jeff Dziekan: Well, how does it work?
• 2:02
  Jeff Dziekan: Well, we just talked a little bit about that, but mainly the front wheel steering uh steers it while the rear wheels provide the motivative force in that direction.
• 2:12
  Jeff Dziekan: So you're saying, well, are what kind of cars do we usually get them on?
• 2:16
  Jeff Dziekan: Well, the engine and the drivetrain do matter on this.
• 2:19
  Jeff Dziekan: Uh it's report that the different speeds and different uh turning radiuses, which are very limited on some of these as well.
• 2:26
  Jeff Dziekan: Some of the disadvantages, you're looking at the cost.
• 2:30
  Jeff Dziekan: Now, if you have the system, if you were to buy it on a car nowadays, you're looking at about a five grand option for this.
• 2:36
  Jeff Dziekan: If it was to go out of warranty and it breaks, you're looking anywhere between an eighteen hundred dollar minimum repair per corner or just a replacement of thirty five hundred bucks per when the mechanic sees one coming in the door, this part of the guys, he goes, how does that work?
• 2:52
  Jeff Dziekan: Yeah.
• 2:53
  Jeff Dziekan: And of course, uh one of the other parts is the malfunction.
• 2:55
  Jeff Dziekan: If one part of it goes down, then they all go down.
• 2:58
  Jeff Dziekan: So it's it's pretty much uh it's the it's a risky thing to do.
• 3:03
  Jeff Dziekan: Various Audis, various BMWs, Ferraris, Lamborghinis, Porsche models, and you can still get it to today.
• 3:08
  Jeff Dziekan: You can get a lot of them through Mercedes.
• 3:10
  Jeff Dziekan: Mercedes do offer it as an option when you go in there and look at those cars.
• 3:14
  Jeff Dziekan: And Mike just clicked on it.
• 3:15
  Jeff Dziekan: My favorite, which is the uh bonus pick.
• 3:18
  Jeff Dziekan: There's a rear-wheel drive vehicle right there.
• 3:20
  Jeff Dziekan: That was actually uh a four-wheel drive vehicle.
• 3:22
  Jeff Dziekan: A rear-wheel drive.
• 3:24
  Jeff Dziekan: Four-wheel steering.
• 3:26
  Jeff Dziekan: Uh so the tires on this Lunar Rover were uh a wire mesh composite uh for durability to add to the temperatures so that they didn't sink in the sand and the and the moon dust and all that good stuff.
• 3:38
  Jeff Dziekan: But that vehicle was on Apollo 15, 16, and 17, and they're still up there.
• 3:43
  Jeff Dziekan: So I think, Mike, what we need to do is send you up there to bring them back on a flatbed, and we'll check them up.
• 3:49
  Don Armstrong: Oh yeah.
• 3:50
  Jeff Dziekan: That would be fun.
• 3:51
  Don Armstrong: Okay, good.
• 3:52
  Don Armstrong: Well, that what a great that great feature.
• 3:54
  Jeff Dziekan: I took that uh at uh Johnson Space Center.
• 3:56
  Jeff Dziekan: That was a display.
• 3:57
  Jeff Dziekan: Oh, really?
• 3:58
  Jeff Dziekan: Yeah, that's a good idea.
• 3:59
  Jeff Dziekan: So that's why I've sent it to Mike Lake.
• 4:01
  Jeff Dziekan: Let's get over to driving.
• 4:08
  Don Armstrong: Let's get over to driving destinations.
• 4:09
  Don Armstrong: Mr.
• 4:10
  Don Armstrong: Mars has that.
• 4:11
  Don Armstrong: We're talking about go-karting.
• 4:13
  Mike Marrs: Yeah, so we're gonna stay along the same lines of something that's fun to drive.
• 4:16
  Mike Marrs: So if you're looking for something that goes beyond the big indoor uh chains, you know, like around Houston, there's a couple of places, big multi-story buildings that uh take up several blocks.
• 4:28
  Mike Marrs: And it's so if you're looking for something that gets a little more personality, a little bit more host or history, or some old school Texas vibes, then we've got a few of those that we can look at.
• 4:38
  Mike Marrs: So we're gonna start with uh the go-kart raceway, great name off uh West Mount Houston Road in Houston.
• 4:45
  Mike Marrs: But for decades, it's been kind of a quiet, but it's been one of Houston's best old school outdoor kart tracks.
• 4:52
  Mike Marrs: Survived after all the similar family entertainment centers have all disappeared.
• 4:56
  Mike Marrs: Now they've all got some sort of arcade system and everything built in with it, but it's all part of trying to make that family experience to go along with it.
• 5:05
  Mike Marrs: But now this facility includes the arcade games, laser tag, and the 1960s vibe, just an old school vibe that uh families can go to, particularly the younger riders, because they've got four different levels of carts.
• 5:17
  Mike Marrs: You got regular carts, you got two seaters so that you can take and ride with the kids.
• 5:21
  Mike Marrs: They've also got what they call the supercarts, which you've got to be 15, at least 15 years old to drive, or they've got an F1 cart that you've got to be 16 with a driver's license to be able to drive.
• 5:32
  Mike Marrs: So they got a lot of variety there out there on their tracks.
• 5:35
  Mike Marrs: Then uh the second one would be Speedy's Fast Track up off Hempstead Road.
• 5:40
  Mike Marrs: Now, it's really been a neighborhood type entertainment center because that's what they've built and that's what they've kept.
• 5:46
  Mike Marrs: And that's alongside Hempstead Road, so there's a lot of attractions there with go-karts, mini golf, laser tags, and some arcade games.
• 5:54
  Mike Marrs: It's kind of a compact place, but it's all uh something you can get to, and it's a little more personal than you find with a national polish change with a lot of the neon lights and flashing indoor racing type things.
• 6:06
  Mike Marrs: It's not a big track, but it's got a lot of tight turns that might think you about the old school when you were a kid and you used to go and drive on them.
• 6:12
  Mike Marrs: And because it all keeps all the racing close, it's lively and it's very competitive because it's all such like a short track.
• 6:19
  Mike Marrs: Now, you can make it for a great casual date night destination because it balances fun.
• 6:23
  Mike Marrs: You got a little bit of atmosphere, you got lots of different things you can do at Speedy's to get because of the quirky personality that keeps people coming back year after year.
• 6:32
  Mike Marrs: This made this a really great place to go do.
• 6:34
  Mike Marrs: Now, the other one, it's a little more upscale, is Speed Sports Racing Park.
• 6:39
  Mike Marrs: We've talked to these spies before, and I brought them in because they are out of the way.
• 6:43
  Mike Marrs: They're up in New Caney, so they're up in Southeast Texas, if you will, and they've got a lot of arcades, of course.
• 6:50
  Mike Marrs: And you know, they do a lot of birthday parties and they got a big venue there.
• 6:53
  Mike Marrs: That's but it's all into motorsports culture.
• 6:56
  Mike Marrs: The outdoor track is fast, it's very technical, and it's designed for drivers who want to improve lap times because they do have league racing here that you can get involved with.
• 7:07
  Mike Marrs: They also have driver coaching that you can get involved with.
• 7:10
  Mike Marrs: So whether you're a beginner or you get into the competitive cart racing, uh, you can see different levels of driving on this track that'll reach that everybody can participate on.
• 7:22
  Mike Marrs: And uh they also actually do have a racing academy that you can sign up for if you really want to get into it and get serious.
• 7:29
  Mike Marrs: Then the next one, I was surprised to find this one, MSR in Houston.
• 7:33
  Mike Marrs: We talk about MSR in Houston a lot because of the road course on it, but did not know about the carting.
• 7:40
  Mike Marrs: Wow.
• 7:41
  Mike Marrs: They actually have carting.
• 7:43
  Mike Marrs: Now, this is down in Angleton.
• 7:45
  Mike Marrs: Uh they've got uh where they, along with all their track for their road track for their cars and stuff, it is a track that's set up for golf carts.
• 7:55
  Mike Marrs: Now, it's part of that like larger complex, it's a shorter track.
• 7:59
  Mike Marrs: Uh it's a three-quarter mile part of the track, and you've got to be at least 13 years old to get on this course and get on this track because it is a little skillful.
• 8:08
  Mike Marrs: I mean, it takes some skill and you've got to be able to drive it.
• 8:10
  Mike Marrs: And because the track itself is long, it's smooth, and it's quick enough that you're gonna get some speed up.
• 8:15
  Mike Marrs: And I think they can get up to like 45 miles an hour in this course, and so you've got with the turns and stuff, you've got concrete walls.
• 8:23
  Mike Marrs: It's a racetrack for cars that you're gonna get into in a golf in a go-kart.
• 8:27
  Mike Marrs: So you gotta be uh I gotta have some skills, you gotta pay a little bit of attention.
• 8:31
  Mike Marrs: The the last one I found that uh I thought was really interesting.
• 8:34
  Mike Marrs: Now, this is down in Galveston.
• 8:36
  Mike Marrs: So it's still, I consider that still part of the Houston area, but it's down on Seawall Boulevard in Galveston.
• 8:41
  Mike Marrs: It's the Galveston Go-Kart and Fun Center.
• 8:45
  Mike Marrs: Now, this is Beachtown.
• 8:47
  Mike Marrs: We're talking resort, Beachtown Energy.
• 8:49
  Mike Marrs: It's got a lot of uh charm to it because of the retro family amusement park setting it's in.
• 8:55
  Mike Marrs: Along the seawall, it's very easy to be part of that beach atmosphere.
• 8:59
  Mike Marrs: A lot of people on vacations going down here.
• 9:02
  Mike Marrs: But they've also got the outdoor cart track, and it's not really ultra competitive, but it's great for going out just to go for a ride that you want to get quick on and maybe have a little family racing setup or just something to do on vacation, like a lot of towns across the country.
• 9:18
  Mike Marrs: They do have arcade games and they've got uh a lot of other things like pool tables.
• 9:23
  Mike Marrs: Uh they do have some axe throwing that Don found real popular one time.
• 9:27
  Mike Marrs: We were talking about that.
• 9:28
  Mike Marrs: Then we also have a virtual reality roller coaster that I thought was rather I was trying to understand.
• 9:36
  Don Armstrong: Don't even talk to me about roller coasters, okay?
• 9:38
  Don Armstrong: No, no, but it's a virtual one.
• 9:40
  Mike Marrs: You just put on the headset and go, man.
• 9:42
  Mike Marrs: Okay.
• 9:43
  Mike Marrs: Well, thank you very much.
• 9:44
  Don Armstrong: Yeah, we appreciate that.
• 9:45
  Don Armstrong: Driving destinations go-karting around the Houston area.
• 9:48
  Don Armstrong: Thank you, Mr.
• 9:48
  Don Armstrong: Mars.
• 9:49
  Don Armstrong: In real time cart.
• 9:55
  Don Armstrong: So Mr.
• 9:55
  Don Armstrong: Mars has this week in auto history, and um we're ready when you are, Mike.
• 10:01
  Mike Marrs: All righty.
• 10:02
  Mike Marrs: This week we found a few stories that we thought were rather interesting, and of course, the Indianapolis 500 was just finished up.
• 10:09
  Mike Marrs: Excuse me, and and I found another little story about it.
• 10:12
  Mike Marrs: But actually, the very first Indianapolis 500 was on May the 30th of 1911.
• 10:18
  Mike Marrs: Now, it may it that's the start of the most famous race in American history.
• 10:23
  Mike Marrs: Now, the car winning car was a Marmon Wasp.
• 10:26
  Mike Marrs: This was a revolutionary single-seat car, had one of the earliest rear view mirrors, and that's significant because that's another thing that came out of the racing world and became into production cars, as well as some of the other features for the engineering advancements on this car that kind of influenced cars made for the public sector for the next several centuries.
• 10:47
  Mike Marrs: So the also this week was the introduction of the diesel passenger car.
• 10:54
  Mike Marrs: Now at the Berlin Motor Show, Mercedes Benz introduced the 260D, which is generally recognized as the first series production diesel passenger car.
• 11:03
  Mike Marrs: There were diesel engines, obviously, out in trucks and uh tractors and railroad gear, but this was the first one that was set up for everyday automobiles and improved the efficiency and the reliability of the diesel motor in that in the category.
• 11:20
  Mike Marrs: Now, it's long been held over in Europe.
• 11:22
  Mike Marrs: They've always used diesels a lot more than what we would here, but this is where it started and where it brought it into uh common usage.
• 11:30
  Mike Marrs: Now in 1934, this is really interesting.
• 11:33
  Mike Marrs: I did not know this existed, but it was the birth of the Chrysler Airflow era.
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 11:38
  Mike Marrs: Now, they started production of this automotive design thinking that Chrysler engineers were going to use the wind tunnel testing and the airflow, which was actually a model of a car that was produced from 1934 to 1937, and it was a unibody vehicle that I did not even know existed back then.
• 11:57
  Mike Marrs: I like it.
• 11:58
  Mike Marrs: So uh Sir.
• 12:01
  Jeff Dziekan: I said I like it.
• 12:02
  Mike Marrs: Yeah.
• 12:03
  Mike Marrs: It it's got a lot of features on it, including the uh it sits down low, it's got a waterfall type grill to it.
• 12:10
  Mike Marrs: The uh windshield was technology advanced because instead of it being one piece of glass that was flat, it's two pieces that come up to that V that you can see sectioned off right there.
• 12:20
  Mike Marrs: Uh it sets a little lower, it's got the wheel wheel coverings that kind of come over the tires.
• 12:24
  Mike Marrs: There's a lot of things that were done because of the wind tunnel testing that they developed on this car.
• 12:30
  Mike Marrs: And it's a shame they only produced it for three years, but they also produced one over in the DeSoto line as well as the Chrysler line, but it just never was publicly accepted.
• 12:41
  Mike Marrs: I mean, they just couldn't sell many of them.
• 12:44
  Mike Marrs: I think it was only like about 7,000, was actually they ended up selling it across three years, and uh they pulled it from production.
• 12:50
  Mike Marrs: But it was another one of those things ahead of its time.
• 12:54
  Mike Marrs: Yes, in 1986, Henry Ford's quadricycle hits the road.
• 12:58
  Mike Marrs: Now, this was the first you just said 1986?
• 13:02
  Mike Marrs: 1886.
• 13:03
  Mike Marrs: Excuse me.
• 13:04
  Mike Marrs: 1896.
• 13:04
  Mike Marrs: Yeah, there you go.
• 13:05
  Jeff Dziekan: 1896, okay.
• 13:06
  Mike Marrs: Yeah, let me let me turn my glasses around.
• 13:09
  Mike Marrs: Okay.
• 13:09
  Mike Marrs: So this was uh in Detroit, and this was a four-wheeled vehicle powered by a small gasoline engine.
• 13:14
  Mike Marrs: Now, this is Ford's earliest practical automobile, and this is what he started off building the whole Ford Motor Company from.
• 13:23
  Mike Marrs: It's absolutely very primitive, but if you think about it, some of the things that as kids that we tried to build little go-karts, our own little motorized powers, it was basically that four wheels and a motor with some sort of steering.
• 13:35
  Mike Marrs: In uh 1928, Chrysler produced purchases the Dodge Brothers.
• 13:41
  Mike Marrs: Now, the interesting thing about this is the the Dodge Brothers were originally parts suppliers to all of the manufacturers at the time, including Ford.
• 13:51
  Mike Marrs: So in 1914, they decided to start building their own automobiles.
• 13:56
  Mike Marrs: And so through that production, and then it came up in 1928 after both brothers had uh died for one of them was under the Spanish flu, and the other one, they're not really sure, but they think it was related to that.
• 14:08
  Mike Marrs: So the family then ended up selling it, and Chrysler ended up buying it through a couple of other transactions.
• 14:14
  Mike Marrs: And what it did, it gave Chrysler, expanded their production ability to bring things in and make Chrysler that started Chrysler into becoming one of the big three of Detroit.
• 14:25
  Mike Marrs: Uh and uh yeah, and that's the things that I found that were interesting.
• 14:29
  Mike Marrs: Some of them I didn't even know existed in automobile history.
• 14:32
  Don Armstrong: I saw the Marmon Wasp, it's in the uh Indianapolis Museum uh at the Indianapolis Speedway, and I got to see, and I think you did too, Mike, that uh that Chrysler Airflow.
• 14:42
  Don Armstrong: That was in the Chrysler Museum there in Auburn Hills when we went to visit.
• 14:47
  Don Armstrong: That's very cool.
• 14:48
  Don Armstrong: Yeah, yeah, and that those cars are around, but you have to seek them out.
• 14:51
  Don Armstrong: You just you know they don't show up at at the cruise inn or something.
• 14:55
  Mike Marrs: No, yeah, they're they're very special cars and they treat them that way, fortunately.
• 14:58
  Don Armstrong: All right, time now for the uh timeout for this hour's car review.
• 15:07
  Don Armstrong: Had a chance to drive the 2025 Land Rover Range Rover that is built in Sully Hull, England.
• 15:19
  Jeff Dziekan: Sully Hull.
• 15:19
  Don Armstrong: Okay.
• 15:20
  Don Armstrong: Um so it's available in these trim levels.
• 15:23
  Don Armstrong: Don't laugh.
• 15:24
  Don Armstrong: The P400 S E the P550E, the S E, the P 530 S E.
• 15:36
  Don Armstrong: And um I had the S E LWB.
• 15:43
  Don Armstrong: What does that mean?
• 15:45
  Don Armstrong: Long wheelbase.
• 15:46
  Don Armstrong: Is that what it is?
• 15:46
  Don Armstrong: Yeah, okay.
• 15:47
  Don Armstrong: Long wheelbase.
• 15:48
  Don Armstrong: Seven seats, the autobiography, uh P615 SV.
• 15:56
  Jeff Dziekan: A lot of P's in that.
• 15:57
  Don Armstrong: There's I I don't quite understand all of that, but whatever the case may be, a beautiful vehicle.
• 16:02
  Don Armstrong: Standard SUV, so body on frame, seven seats, all new in 2022.
• 16:08
  Don Armstrong: They don't change these over a quick period of time.
• 16:12
  Don Armstrong: Look at that interior.
• 16:13
  Don Armstrong: Yeah, so exterior straight lines and smooth body panels.
• 16:17
  Don Armstrong: Front fascia is straightforward in design with a rectangular grille, very conservative, unique rear hatch with the rectangular highlight.
• 16:28
  Don Armstrong: It is stunning to look at.
• 16:30
  Don Armstrong: Concentric wheel openings.
• 16:31
  Don Armstrong: I'm sorry.
• 16:32
  Jeff Dziekan: I was gonna say that you know an old school watch from you know the 50s to the square.
• 16:36
  Jeff Dziekan: That's what that looks like.
• 16:37
  Jeff Dziekan: It does.
• 16:38
  Don Armstrong: Yeah, yeah.
• 16:38
  Don Armstrong: Uh, what I liked about it, the fit and finish of this thing is unbelievable.
• 16:42
  Don Armstrong: There's no side sculpting in the bodywork.
• 16:45
  Don Armstrong: Think smooth and no stupid roof rack.
• 16:49
  Don Armstrong: Roof rack.
• 16:50
  Don Armstrong: What a dumb thing.
• 16:52
  Don Armstrong: I know.
• 16:52
  Don Armstrong: And why ruin all that line with a roof rack?
• 16:55
  Don Armstrong: Well, they don't have that.
• 16:56
  Don Armstrong: We could use improvement, nothing.
• 16:58
  Don Armstrong: Interior highlights.
• 17:00
  Don Armstrong: Overall, beautiful, high-class design with top-of-the-line materials, large tablet style center infotainment screen, horizontal dash lines with a smallish instrument screen, but who looks at that anyway, unless the red light comes on.
• 17:16
  Don Armstrong: This is luxury at its finest.
• 17:18
  Don Armstrong: Take note, Cadillac.
• 17:20
  Don Armstrong: Something for Lincoln also that they should look into to mirror this.
• 17:24
  Don Armstrong: Um what I liked about it?
• 17:27
  Don Armstrong: Classy Luxo vibe.
• 17:30
  Don Armstrong: Look at use improvement.
• 17:31
  Don Armstrong: The third row is for two kids only.
• 17:34
  Don Armstrong: That's it.
• 17:35
  Don Armstrong: They squeeze the thing back there, and you can put the grandkids back there, and then they'll love it, squealing with delight.
• 17:40
  Don Armstrong: Uh screen controls can be hard to understand.
• 17:45
  Don Armstrong: It is an English vehicle designed in England, owned by an Indian company called Tata.
• 17:51
  Don Armstrong: Tata Motors.
• 17:53
  Don Armstrong: Engine.
• 17:54
  Don Armstrong: Three-liter, turbocharged, inline six-cylinder with 395 horsepower, 406 pound feet of torque, eight-speed automatic transmission.
• 18:04
  Don Armstrong: Toll rating?
• 18:06
  Don Armstrong: 7,715 pounds.
• 18:09
  Don Armstrong: That's from that straight six.
• 18:11
  Don Armstrong: Uh mileage.
• 18:12
  Don Armstrong: Do we really care?
• 18:14
  Don Armstrong: But just in case you did, it gets 19 in the city, 24 in the highway for a combined at 21.
• 18:20
  Don Armstrong: I got 19.4 miles per gallon over 371 miles.
• 18:27
  Don Armstrong: What I liked, plenty of power through this straight six.
• 18:30
  Don Armstrong: This is the same straight six that they use in the Jaguar lines as well.
• 18:34
  Don Armstrong: What could use improvement?
• 18:36
  Don Armstrong: The 5,240-pound curb weight is a little on the heavy side.
• 18:43
  Don Armstrong: And it kind of feels that way.
• 18:44
  Don Armstrong: Yeah.
• 18:45
  Don Armstrong: Start and stop.
• 18:45
  Don Armstrong: It's to go away.
• 18:46
  Don Armstrong: That is the dumbest feature ever.
• 18:49
  Don Armstrong: And especially when you're dealing with a luxury car, is it going to make you feel better because you're saving ounces of gas?
• 18:55
  Don Armstrong: Yeah.
• 18:56
  Don Armstrong: No, that needs to go away.
• 18:57
  Jeff Dziekan: So there's no there's no offsh with the switch you couldn't turn on.
• 19:00
  Jeff Dziekan: I couldn't find it.
• 19:00
  Jeff Dziekan: Oh wow.
• 19:01
  Don Armstrong: If there is one, I couldn't find it.
• 19:02
  Jeff Dziekan: So was it really?
• 19:04
  Don Armstrong: This thing is as smooth as glass.
• 19:07
  Don Armstrong: What could use improvement?
• 19:08
  Don Armstrong: Nothing.
• 19:09
  Don Armstrong: This is not a corner carver.
• 19:12
  Don Armstrong: This is a you drive this thing with respect like a sophisticated driver should.
• 19:18
  Don Armstrong: Turn your nose up, say what you will.
• 19:20
  Don Armstrong: This is one awesome SUV.
• 19:24
  Jeff Dziekan: Get the great coupon.
• 19:25
  Jeff Dziekan: Get it ready.
• 19:26
  Don Armstrong: Okay.
• 19:26
  Don Armstrong: Now you also have to get ready for the price.
• 19:28
  Jeff Dziekan: Oh, yeah.
• 19:28
  Jeff Dziekan: I'm sitting down.
• 19:29
  Don Armstrong: You ready?
• 19:29
  Don Armstrong: Yep.
• 19:30
  Don Armstrong: Okay.
• 19:31
  Don Armstrong: Base trim price,$117,200.
• 19:36
  Don Armstrong: Price is tested.
• 19:39
  Don Armstrong: Got to drive the$128,695 version.
• 19:45
  Don Armstrong: Now you can touch you.
• 19:47
  Don Armstrong: You can slip into one of these at the base model price of$107, yeah$900.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, what are you doing?
• 19:55
  Don Armstrong: So when you see one of these, you're gonna you gotta look at the guy that's driver girl that's driving it and going.
• 20:02
  Don Armstrong: For whatever the reason me.
• 20:04
  unknown: All right.
• 20:05
  Don Armstrong: So competitors, the Lexus LX 600,$107,000.
• 20:10
  Don Armstrong: Cadillac Escalade, Cheapo at$91,100.
• 20:15
  Don Armstrong: And the the only other thing that I could really come close to is the Mercedes Benz Maybach GLS for$180,000.
• 20:23
  Jeff Dziekan: Oh wow.
• 20:23
  Jeff Dziekan: That's the other direction.
• 20:24
  Jeff Dziekan: Yeah.
• 20:25
  Don Armstrong: Um next week, the GMC Sierra EV Truck Mobile.
• 20:29
  Don Armstrong: That's what I'll review.
• 20:31
  Don Armstrong: So that was a fun ride.
• 20:32
  Don Armstrong: Thank you very much, Land Rover, Range Rover, for letting me drive it.
• 20:36
  Don Armstrong: I promise I didn't put a dent or ding in it anywhere, and I turned it in just like I found it.
• 20:43
  Mike Marrs: Hey Don?
• 20:44
  Don Armstrong: Well, yes, Mike.
• 20:55
  Don Armstrong: It was.
• 20:55
  Don Armstrong: It was, unfortunately, yes.
• 20:57
  Jeff Dziekan: I think any start stop is noticeable.
• 20:59
  Mike Marrs: Well, I think I just thought maybe they hit it a little bit better.
• 21:02
  Jeff Dziekan: No, they didn't.
• 21:03
  Jeff Dziekan: If I if I don't turn mine off, I've I've well wait a minute.
• 21:06
  Jeff Dziekan: Next thing I gotta do is I gotta turn that off.
• 21:08
  Don Armstrong: Hey, if you'd like to get in touch with us, send us an email.
• 21:09
  Don Armstrong: The address is info at n wheeltime.com.
• 21:12
  Jeff Dziekan: We're back after this.