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Chuck in the Morning 7-28 Hour 3: Fleury and the offense, talk off Camp and more from NFL training camps. · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Well, we got all sorts of things to talk about.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like it's just like it's just flowing just everywhere.
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  Speaker 2: POMPEII. We're just gonna get it all over it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so let's let's dive into Brian Floory, which we
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  Speaker 1: have not really dove into in our two days together.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm very curious as your thoughts as we get
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  Speaker 1: camp going. You're putting eyeballs on the product. Yesterday, Clint
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  Speaker 1: Kubiak leaves. Anytime you're losing an OC from a Super
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  Speaker 1: Bowl champion, automatically you're gonna have a little worry about that.
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  Speaker 1: And then Brian Florey comes in, and he has no
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  Speaker 1: experience as an offensive coordinator and yet it's John and
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  Speaker 1: Mike that are hiring this guy. So all of that
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  Speaker 1: wrapped into one tiny little package. What's your reaction this
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  Speaker 1: transition from Kubiak to Flurry this year?
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  Speaker 3: Well, there, I have a little bit of a concern
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  Speaker 3: because he's never done it and talking about Flory and
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  Speaker 3: we kind of know how Clint Kubiak found his groove
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  Speaker 3: and a few of the things that you look for. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: what's his playbook? You know what's which is different than
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  Speaker 3: what's his philosophy. Now, in most cases in the NFL,
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  Speaker 3: there's a lot of copycatting. Everybody knows all the plays.
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  Speaker 3: Some people say, well, out of out of five hundred
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  Speaker 3: good plays, I like these two hundred the best, and
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  Speaker 3: then somebody else say, well I like these.
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  Speaker 2: Two hundred the best, and then you know.
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  Speaker 3: But but most of it is something that everybody has
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  Speaker 3: available to them. You know, it's off season, you can
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  Speaker 3: study study other people.
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  Speaker 2: They do that. They they copycat all the time.
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  Speaker 3: But then there's you know, there's different philosophies of are
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  Speaker 3: you want to be under center more or do you
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  Speaker 3: want to be more play action? Uh, you know, how
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  Speaker 3: aggressive are you going to be? Are you gonna be
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  Speaker 3: more ball control or are you going to try and
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  Speaker 3: you know how much shots? So so we don't know.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I assume he has a good playbook. It's
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  Speaker 3: the forty nine or playbook. I happen to have the
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  Speaker 3: forty nine or playbook. I know, I thumped through it
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  Speaker 3: and read their terminology. So you know, I've I gotta
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  Speaker 3: grasp on that. But we and and we've probably got
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  Speaker 3: a good idea of the philosophy because it's got to
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  Speaker 3: fit Mike McDonald.
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  Speaker 2: The teaching.
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  Speaker 3: The teaching part of it, the nuances, that's vital. Are
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  Speaker 3: you can can you say, can you teach the details?
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  Speaker 3: The precision is in the details. I remember playing for
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  Speaker 3: Ernie Zampezi, the noted offensive coordinator who was the architect
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  Speaker 3: of the Eric Coriel, and then he was at the
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  Speaker 3: Rams and he taught Norv Turner, the offense who took
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  Speaker 3: it to the Cowboys and won several Super Bowls. And
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  Speaker 3: Norm would sit there in these meetings and he would
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  Speaker 3: have like the John Madden tellustrator and and he would
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  Speaker 3: he would pause the tape with the receivers and he'd say, hey,
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  Speaker 3: here's your angle of your shoulder, and he Mike a
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  Speaker 3: yellow line on the tape, and he'd say, I don't
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  Speaker 3: want it here. I want it here, And I think
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  Speaker 3: you just changed.
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  Speaker 2: It three degrees and there's three hundred and sixty degrees
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  Speaker 2: in a circle. You changed the three like like like.
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  Speaker 3: But that's the precision, and you know, hey, this is
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  Speaker 3: you know, I want I want you to drop your
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  Speaker 3: hips one step further.
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  Speaker 2: The teaching of the details.
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  Speaker 3: I here's an opinion I have that is born from
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  Speaker 3: over forty years. I believe the difference in offensive coordinators,
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  Speaker 3: the between the best and the and the worst in
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  Speaker 3: the NFL, is about the same as the players. There's
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  Speaker 3: an enormous gap in the quality of offensive coordinators.
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  Speaker 2: So we just don't we don't know. Uh, the teaching
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  Speaker 2: and then he's got to You also have to have
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  Speaker 2: the presence.
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  Speaker 3: To challenge when guys, you know, sometimes you say say,
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  Speaker 3: wait a minute, everything the technique is right, but we're
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  Speaker 3: stuck in peanut butter. You're doing the right technique, but
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  Speaker 3: it's way too slow. This has got to be all
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  Speaker 3: the detail that you're doing.
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  Speaker 2: Is on point. You gotta play faster, you know.
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  Speaker 3: And it's the ability to recognize that, and do you
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  Speaker 3: have the personality to connect and to be able to
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  Speaker 3: challenge those guys. Then then, and I'm kind of going sequentially,
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  Speaker 3: there's a there's a there's a chronology to these uh,
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  Speaker 3: these attributes that I'm listening. Then you got the game plan.
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  Speaker 3: It's game week, and you got you gotta look at
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  Speaker 3: the RAMS defense. You gotta look at the forty nine
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  Speaker 3: er defense, and you're looking at uh all the games
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  Speaker 3: that they've played, particularly the last four uh, and you're saying, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: this is how I want to attack them. This is
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  Speaker 3: what I expect from their scheme. This is where the
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  Speaker 3: personnel that you know, Okay, it's not just as a
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  Speaker 3: cover three three D four under how do they carry
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  Speaker 3: the seams?
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  Speaker 2: Are they outside in? You know? How?
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  Speaker 3: Why does the defender get and and then they say, okay,
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  Speaker 3: based on their personnel and their nuance, these are the
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  Speaker 3: plays that are gonna work. And then thus you have
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  Speaker 3: the game plan. So so we've got one hundred and
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  Speaker 3: fifty two hundred plays, but I really like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: these forty or fifty uh And then the most important
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  Speaker 3: part is in the game. Yeah, the play calling. I
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  Speaker 3: will just tell you this. Everybody's got a play sheet.
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  Speaker 3: There's nobody who can I know this is a double negative.
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  Speaker 3: There is nobody who cannot call a play in the NFL.
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  Speaker 3: Your four year old niece with the crayon can call
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  Speaker 3: a play in the NFL. You know how, Chuck. You
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  Speaker 3: look at the play sheet and it usually has a
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  Speaker 3: number by by it, you know, and you just say.
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  Speaker 2: I want fifty eight. You can call fifty eight, So
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  Speaker 2: he can call fifty eight. Nailed it. Okay, that's it exactly,
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  Speaker 2: she says. That's how she sounds, right.
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  Speaker 3: So now all of a sudden, your niece is a
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  Speaker 3: play caller in the NFL. I obviously give a sort
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  Speaker 3: to make the point that good play calling is setting
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  Speaker 3: up plays. Remember Abe yesterday said that that that touchdown passed.
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  Speaker 2: At the beginning of the fourth court in the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 3: They ran the stretch, They ran the stretch to the right,
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  Speaker 3: and they set it up, and then they ran the
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  Speaker 3: play action stretch stretch and then but you have to
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  Speaker 3: have the same release by the tight end what's called
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  Speaker 3: the easy release arc releases, and it's all got a coincide.
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  Speaker 3: You set it up and then you're more likely to
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  Speaker 3: get the touchdown, and you got to be able to
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  Speaker 3: make the adjustment.
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  Speaker 2: So so uh uh.
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  Speaker 3: And you've got to be able to do it under
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  Speaker 3: the gun, under the gun. And I'll I'll tell you something.
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  Speaker 1: How do you know if somebody has a talent for
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  Speaker 1: that or not.
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  Speaker 2: You don't. That's my point.
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  Speaker 3: That's why there's a concern that is you just hit
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  Speaker 3: you just that question is at the center of why
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  Speaker 3: anybody would have a reasonable concern about this. You don't
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  Speaker 3: know about a never time play caller.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah he's in.
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  Speaker 3: He's a never time You say his first time. Yeah, well,
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  Speaker 3: first time means never before. He's a never time play caller.
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  Speaker 2: So we we don't know. But I'll I'll tell you this.
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  Speaker 3: At the end of the second quarter in the in
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  Speaker 3: the NFC Championship game, you had Clint Kobiak, he gets
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  Speaker 3: a motion with jays n set. The defense has to adjust. Now,
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  Speaker 3: how are they're going to carry this scene? He gets
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  Speaker 3: on a split safety. He gets Jackson Smith and Jake
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  Speaker 3: but wide open on one play, forty two yard game
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  Speaker 3: down in the red zone. Then he calls a play.
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  Speaker 3: The very next play, he calls a play where he's
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  Speaker 3: got Jake Bobo running a post route on the left,
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  Speaker 3: white ass open. He said, wait a minute, wasn't that
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  Speaker 3: a touchdown? No, that was in the second half. At
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  Speaker 3: the end of the second quarter, he had Bobo wide
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  Speaker 3: open for a touchdown ten yards.
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  Speaker 2: Darnald missed him. He throws in the flat over to Hallane. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: The next play, he calls another play and he gets
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  Speaker 3: JSN wide open in the back of the end zone.
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  Speaker 3: The ball is thrown, it's caught, but it's like four
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  Speaker 3: yards outside the end of You remember when Jason skied
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  Speaker 3: from the left to right from the slot, So he's
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  Speaker 3: attacking these coverages. He's getting guys open, he's calling touchdown
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  Speaker 3: on passes. And then the very next play, he puts
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  Speaker 3: JSN in the backfield as a halfback on the left
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  Speaker 3: run up just a simple half back corner, but the
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  Speaker 3: way he he uh, he had the the split in
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  Speaker 3: take the safety out. And then he ran what's called
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  Speaker 3: a snag route to the flat back and and JSN
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  Speaker 3: from the backfield goes wide ass open, uncovered Jackson Smith
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  Speaker 3: and Jig but number eleven the offensive player of the year,
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  Speaker 3: and the Rams don't cover him. And then we get
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  Speaker 3: a touchdown at the end of the second one. He
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  Speaker 3: calls four straight plays that were touchdowns. Wow, we get
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  Speaker 3: one touchdown. You said, what about the first one is
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  Speaker 3: forty two yard? Well, if it had it been thrown
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  Speaker 3: a little bit earlier there there, he might have split
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  Speaker 3: the defense and scored.
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  Speaker 2: So so we'll call it three and a half.
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  Speaker 3: But the plays after that forty two yard he called
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  Speaker 3: three straight touchdown passes.
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  Speaker 2: He was on fire. I'm like, whoa clay who back
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  Speaker 2: is on fire?
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  Speaker 3: And and so you know that's what you I don't
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  Speaker 3: know if if Brian Florey can do that, Like, how
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  Speaker 3: that would for me to say that he can do that?
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  Speaker 3: You would logically turn around and say, on what basis
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  Speaker 3: do you know that he can set that up? He's
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  Speaker 3: been exposed to Kyle Shanahan. We're gonna see a lot
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  Speaker 3: of Kyle Shannon. Kyle Shanahan is great, but you know,
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  Speaker 3: does you have to notice what what Kyle Shannon's offense
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  Speaker 3: did against the Seahawk defense, right, Bagel? Right, So, so
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  Speaker 3: I think it's I don't know how I could overstate
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  Speaker 3: the importance of this.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he's a he's a.
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  Speaker 3: First time play caller, he's a never time play caller,
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  Speaker 3: and and and we don't know. And by the way,
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  Speaker 3: one last thought, he's gonna have to have some chops
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  Speaker 3: because I know for a fact there's there are times
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  Speaker 3: that the Seahawks won football games good enough and this
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  Speaker 3: isn't good enough and this isn't precise enough. Excuse me,
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  Speaker 3: and this has got to be better. And Kooby is like, damn,
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  Speaker 3: like I thought we were pretty good and so so
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  Speaker 3: this is this is one of the things about don't
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  Speaker 3: go to sleep on Mike McDonald. Mike McDonald, you know,
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  Speaker 3: he's got a you know, looks like a frat boy,
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  Speaker 3: you know, a little little you know, I mean, could
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  Speaker 3: he not pass for twenty five years old? Like probably,
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure when he rents a car, they go like,
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  Speaker 3: show me your ID that you're over twenty five.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: So Mozart has this, you know, this kind of little
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  Speaker 3: boy press.
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  Speaker 2: But he has such a.
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  Speaker 3: Brilliant vision of what professional football is supposed to look like.
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  Speaker 3: And he knows it from the defensive side in ways
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  Speaker 3: that are almost unmatched. And he challenges his offense and
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  Speaker 3: he challenges his offensive coordinator to say, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 3: I know how precise professional football needs to be. We're
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  Speaker 3: not at that standard. We just won yesterday. Everybody's I'm
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  Speaker 3: throwing no, it has to be better. So he's gonna
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  Speaker 3: have to be able to respond to that.
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  Speaker 2: Mm hmm. So, uh, it's a big deal. I think
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  Speaker 2: that he has all the qualifications.
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  Speaker 3: You know. My favorite part about Brian Floury is my very,
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  Speaker 3: very favorite thing. He said, what, what's my number one
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  Speaker 3: thing I like about him being our offensive coordinator?
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  Speaker 2: Mike McDonald hired him. Yeah, it was. It was Mike
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  Speaker 2: McDonald's decision.
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  Speaker 3: So if it passes Mike McDonald's test, that's the thing
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  Speaker 3: that makes me feel.
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  Speaker 2: The best about the Seahawk cofense cod You know, you know,
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  Speaker 2: but you wanna.
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  Speaker 1: He won a super Bowl, one of the youngest ages
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  Speaker 1: of a head coach of all time, and he wrote
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  Speaker 1: don Giovanni.
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  Speaker 2: So it's like he.
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  Speaker 3: What more can he do? Most hard figure marriage a
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  Speaker 3: figure is much better? Uh more of a magic flute guy.
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  Speaker 2: Ah, but let's get into.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get into his mind if you can into Mike McDonald,
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  Speaker 1: because on one hand, like we won the Super Bowl,
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  Speaker 1: is there any part of it where you go to
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  Speaker 1: Floria like, hey, we like that. You know Shanahan's playbook,
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  Speaker 1: but why don't you check out what we did last year?
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  Speaker 1: And these guys really liked this system, and uh.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe you could absorb some of that.
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  Speaker 1: And then there's also the aspect of, Okay, we don't
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  Speaker 1: want you to just bring the San Francisco Playbook because
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  Speaker 1: we've mastered that, the rams know it and everything else.
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  Speaker 1: And then also, you know, boy, you know that I
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  Speaker 1: had one other point I can't remember it, but just
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  Speaker 1: the mindset of not just not promoting someone within because
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  Speaker 1: you're you like the system Kubiak left here and everybody's
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  Speaker 1: accustomed to it. But then going in division against an
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  Speaker 1: guy that's never called plays probably is gonna bring a
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  Speaker 1: lot of the Shanahan Playbook, which you've already mastered, and
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  Speaker 1: the rest of the division already knows.
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  Speaker 3: Uh well, I think that first of all, there's a
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  Speaker 3: hell of a lot of overlap, like like the Venn diagram.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's more than just the MasterCard symbol. They're
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  Speaker 3: like they're they're almost laid over. That might not have
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  Speaker 3: been a good illustration, but but I'm trying. I'm drawing
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  Speaker 3: circles here as I'm talking, and and and they're almost
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  Speaker 3: on top of it. Like there's not gonna be much deviation.
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  Speaker 3: There's gonna be more more like the forty nine ers.
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  Speaker 2: Uh uh. You know, for example, if you go back to.
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  Speaker 3: My my Monday morning quarterback stuff after we play the
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  Speaker 3: forty nine ers, I I was saying doing something that
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  Speaker 3: I've never really seen with with Kyle Yushchev, where he
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  Speaker 3: lines up as a wing and he and he motions
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  Speaker 3: towards the ball, but he also motions into the backfield.
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  Speaker 3: And I mean, we've seen all kinds of motions through
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  Speaker 3: the years, right, we're football fans.
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  Speaker 2: But to see a.
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  Speaker 3: Full back taking his momentum away from the line of
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  Speaker 3: scrimmage and then have to redirect his energy towards the
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  Speaker 3: line of scrimmage, I haven't seen that. I gotta think
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  Speaker 3: that through. Well, it's on the practice field yesterday, like
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  Speaker 3: they're doing that stuff. And I'm quite content to say
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  Speaker 3: that that that has never been done. It hasn't been
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  Speaker 3: done in forty years up until you know, call it
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  Speaker 3: a year or two ago. I'm not saying full backs
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  Speaker 3: going motion but more or less parallel with the line
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  Speaker 3: of scrimmage. What I'm that's been done for a long time.
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  Speaker 3: What I'm talking about is the full back lines up
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  Speaker 3: in a wing. What is a wing wing is just
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  Speaker 3: outside the tight end and then starts to go in
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  Speaker 3: motion to get back in the backfield, and then you snap,
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  Speaker 3: not shift and get your your your uh, your your
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  Speaker 3: body obviously static.
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  Speaker 2: If you fit shift, you have to hold for one second.
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  Speaker 2: You snap the.
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  Speaker 3: Ball when the fullback is going backwards away from the
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  Speaker 3: line of scrimmage, and then he's got to redirect that.
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  Speaker 3: That's unusual, but it does create some communication issues for
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  Speaker 3: the defense. They have to immediately process. You know, it
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  Speaker 3: kind of freeze the defense. It didn't obviously impact Seattle
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  Speaker 3: much because they had one of the best defensive performances
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  Speaker 3: that we've seen ever by a Seak or any other
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  Speaker 3: defense against the forty nine ers the way they stoned them.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, so.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, you know, bring the good stuff from San Francisco,
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  Speaker 3: but but leave the stuff that didn't work.
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  Speaker 2: But he won't blend it.
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  Speaker 1: He's gonna he's gonna bring over what he was comfortable with.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: He's bringing over Shannan's offense. He's been a couple of tweaks.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, from what I understand, he's he's bringing over Shannan's offense,
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: which has already had similarities with Clint Kopiacs anyways, Right,
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: but he's also aware of Clint Kobiac the strengths of
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: what they're doing, so they'll be there'll be minor changes,
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: minor changes. This is not like learning a whole new offense.
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: There there's mostly a similarity to it. Uh, but the tweaks.
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: But but the point I'm saying is is can he
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: can he teach it?
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: Does he does he recognize the detail? Does he say okay?
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: Does he ask guys to to to Everybody thinks, well,
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: don't ask a guy something to do something he can't do.
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: Don't ask Rashid Shi he to have a a nuanced
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: blend of where to sit down in his own But
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: the flip side of that is make sure you ask
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: of every player everything he can do, because you're leaving
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: something on the table if you don't he's capable of
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: doing that and you haven't recognized that he is, and
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: you don't ask him to do it something that can
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: help the team, Well, that's a that's an air of omission, right,
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: So can he do that? But then you know Kenny,
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: and then Kenny game plan during the week. Can he
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: go in against the Eagles? Can he go in into
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: against uh, you know the best teams and recognize Okay,
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: this is the personnel, and this is the scheme and
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: how I'm gonna attack it, and I'm gonna have my plan.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: This is my plan is good going in the game.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: We have practiced it. We are ready to go. That
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: that's really important. And then now you spot the ball.
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: You play football, are are you recognizing you know, like
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: people talk about halftime adjustments, Well, the best coaches they're
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: not waiting for halftime. Yeah they're well they're talking, they're talking. Well,
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: the defense is on the field. Hey, listen, Sam, this
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: is what we're getting to this series. I got these
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: two or three plays in mind. Uh you know, on
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: second down we're going to take a shot on this.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna try and get you. I'm gonna try and
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: get to the left hash and then and then boom,
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: we're gonna I think we're gonna get this coverage and
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: we're going after you know, twenty eight. You know, like
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: like you gotta be able to see that stuff and
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: adapt and until until we see evidence of it.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: I think the sensible position is, I don't know.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: Okay, cautious optimism were the best source of optimism is
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: that Mike McDonald thinks sees the guy right right, that's
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: my number one source of optimism. Other than that that
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: the sensible position is. I don't know until I see it.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: QB one with us, you mellon. My name is Chuck Powell.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: It is our training camp coverage here on.
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• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Continues next with the one of our annual features. Yes,
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: I it's too early probably to determine who the talk
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: of camp is, but can we maybe forecast who the
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: talk of camp will be? Sports Radio ninety three point
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  Speaker 2: Them got a voice like an angel.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Uh, it's time for Talk of Camp here at Seahawks
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: training camp. Chuck Powell, Hugh Milling with you as we
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: stare out over the beautiful practice field here at the
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: Virginia Mason Athletics Center getting ready for day number four
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: of training camp. Do want to let you know that
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: Softy Maller and that Dick Fane are gonna have Sam
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: Darnald on today. Uh, so you want to tune into
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: not going to be there? Oh, Dick Fane's not gonna
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: be You're gonna be on there.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna be on there. You're doing double today? Yes,
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: They asked me to look at that all right, So
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: idea Softy and Hugh Millan will be interviewing Sam Donald grilling.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: He's got a lot to answer for such a Putts
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: can't win the Big One? Exactly, that's what your first question. Actually,
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: you joke that might be a kind of funny Sam.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: So we're just is this gonna be the year?
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's get real for a moment here, Sam, Are
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: you ever gonna win the big One?
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: All right? Well, that'd be fun.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, looking forward to that conversation with with you three
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: fellas a little bit later on today. Also, should let
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: everybody know that's out and driving maybe.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: In the renting area.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: Our engineer Terry has just left the building, So prepare
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: to get tailgated.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: It's gonna happen.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: Let's do talk of camp, and talk of camp is
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: something that's usually evolves.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, we do it at spring training. We do
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: it at training camp.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: It becomes a huge part of coverage of camp or
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: spring training, and that is just who's creating the buzz
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: out there on the practice field.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: I mean, we're four days into this.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: I don't know if we can really target I mean,
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: how far do we need to get into this before
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: somebody starts to.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: Emerge in that area.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: It seems like a lot of people are already discussing
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Jadarian Price, but maybe that's just because he's an intriguing
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: figure period heading into camp and trying to replace Ken Walker.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: So I don't I'm not gonna pin you down and
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: giving me who's your talk of camp so far? What's
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: the buzz around camp? Because I don't know if we're
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: far enough in it. So maybe we just kind of
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: speculate as to who could end up being talk of camp.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: And I want to throw a name at you, Aj Barner.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: We were just talking about Brian Floury and him coming
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: over here and maybe bringing some forty nine ers principles.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: He was a former tight end coach. Any chance Aj
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Barner can be George Kittle?
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that the first thing you think is okay.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: George Kittle was a fifth rounder. Barner was a fourth
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: time Kittle from Iowa. Obviously Barner from Michigan. He had
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: been with Coulson Lovelin and kind of the second fiddle
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: at Michigan, and so.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: Was Tom Rady.
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah he was right? Was it Drew Henson? But but
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: I know there's a long lineage of Iowa tight ends.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: I don't know the nuances of Kittle's career, but it's
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: it's entirely possible that he was kind of a second
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: fiddle guy Noah Fan and all him.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: I think I was basically.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: Tight end you pretty much hackinsck and all those guys
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: Hocken Sock, yeahh TJ.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: Hawkinsck. It's not like a game you pick up at target.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Hey, kids, I got you some Hawckens Sock, Hockinson, yes, Hawkinson,
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: t J. Hawkinson Uh hawk Uh. But yeah, I think
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: that could be an app comparison. I think Kittle.
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: You know, Travis Kelsey's obviously passes prime, but I know
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: there was a few years there that that I felt
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: like Travis Kelcey was the best pass catching tight end
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: in the league, but that Kittle was the best all
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: around tight end the league. The tenasis blocker, damn good
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: in the passing game, you know, kind of a tight
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: end without a flaw, and yet he was He was
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: a fifth rounder, so you got Barner is a fourth rounder.
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: So it's not out of the realm of there are
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: some similarities. Big ten guys you know, drafted similarly, So.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: I yeah, I'm I'm a big believer in A J. Barner.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: I wasn't when they first drafted him. I think I
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: was kind of slow to coming around on him. But
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: then you just kind of look at you know, how
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: he moves, his presence, his his feel in the passing game,
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: natural catching ability. I mean, I can show you texts
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: I have with my my friends, many of whom were
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: I played Huskies or or professional ball with where who
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: are Seahawk fans, and you know, be a third quartern.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: I go, they need to throw it to Barnard to
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: get the offense going. Every time they get you know,
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: they they throw to eighty eight. It seems like that's
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: the catalyst.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: So yeah, big believer.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: I think that he he has that ability to be
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: like a kittle where you say he's damn good on blocking.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: There's no there's not a hole in his game.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: You know, he's got he's got the frame to be
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: be dominant at the edge, at the athleticism.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: You know, he's got the feet, he's got the length. Yeah.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: So so I'm I'm bullish on him as far as
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: as as talks of the camp for me yesterday.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: Okay, so you got somebody that was emerging yesterday.
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: Well emerging, you know, because yeah, because it's Tuesday, and
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: and you know, we got to talk about somebody. I
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: think it's probably fair to wait a couple of weeks.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: But let's just go with Riley Mills. And when you
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: asked me about him the monday after he was drafted
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: and he was a fifth rounder, I did a bunch
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: of of tape study of him at Notre Dame, and
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: of course he had the knee injury, and I remember
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: saying to you that that he looks like a poor
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: man's Mason Graham. Mason Graham was the defensive tackle for
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: Michigan who was the fifth over all pick to the Browns.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: And and my comment to you on that Monday after
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: the draft is is I'm looking. I'm looking. And I
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: had done a bunch of study on Mason Graham. Why
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: because he was a first round prospect, and I only
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: do the first rounders prior to the draft, and then I.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: Do all Seahawks after the draft. Right, And and I'm gonna.
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: Wait a minute, Mason Graham is fresh in my mind.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: Now you could say, well, there are two white boys
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: from the Midwest. You know that that had hell of
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: the seasons. But beyond that, I'm like, this guy really
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: looks like Mason Graham and and and I say, poor man,
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: not that much of a poor man like this guy's
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: And I remember thinking, I think he's a second round pick,
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: maybe top fifty in the draft w if he doesn't
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: get hurt. And and the gap between him and and
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: Mason Graham is is very little. I'm not saying that
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: that I would if I'm picking, I wouldn't take Mason
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: Graham obviously, but the gap was really small. So so
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: Riley Mills. He's not playing with a knee brace out
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: here in practice. He looks like he has no ill effects.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: He had that that that great sack in the Super Bowl,
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: which I'm this is just my speculation conjecture. I think
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: that that probably gave him a lot of confidence, like, hey,
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: I can do this thing. My knees fine, I can go.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: And so you had to.
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: I think you got you know what I got. I
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: think you got Chuck. I think he got a second
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: round defensive tackle in the fifth round because of his
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: knee injury. Yeah, and and he's out there now, they're
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: not in pads and everything. But but if you have
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: to ask me who who I guess is he's gonna
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: look more impressive than Pads. I mean, he's the guy
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: that likes to mix it.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: I mean there's a a physical there's a nastiness to him,
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: but there's a strength. I mean he's got a forklift
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: uh in him in his game.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: And so anyways, that would be that guy.
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he He was conspicuous on a number of
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: times where he just penetrating and and and he's and
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: he's jaw jacking, he's doing some he's doing some Devin
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: with us.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. So so I am liking everything
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: I'm seeing from Riley Mills.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: Okay, uh well, great, good session. Talk of camp. We'll
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: have that conversation quite a bit over the course of
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: the next month. Who's creating the buzz i? Like the
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: early entry there from he more from training camp. On
• 30:01
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• 31:17
  Speaker 1: some NFL camp notes. We do that pretty much on
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: a daily basis throughout training camp. Uh, and we're we
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: got a few things out there. Vidavea from the Tampa
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  Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers former Washington star who we all loved as
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: a Husky.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: And he might have been even better in his pro
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: career as he was as a college player.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: And he the Tampa Bay Buccaneers already have a quarterback
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: situation and now Vida Vea said yesterday he wants to
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: be traded out of Tampa Bay. That's not a bad team,
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: Like they kind of have periphery Super Bowl aspirations, and
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: yet here they are, first week of training camp with
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: a quarter back, in the middle of the negotiation, and
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: now they're arguably best defensive player.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: Hugh was saying, I went out.
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: Well, he's a unique player in the discussion for the
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: strongest player in the NFL.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: How old is he? I assume he's about.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: Thirty top thirty probably, I'll look it up. That that's surprising.
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: You kind of wonder from a Sea OK perspective, could
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: the Seahawks.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: Be interested in that. I was thirty one. I don't know.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: I've rattled four year, seventy one million dollar deal. But
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: he wants a new deal. He wants a new deal.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: I probably doubt it. I mean, you know you're gonna
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: have to pay Byron Murphy. I guess the thinking would
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: be if you thought Leonard Williams only has one year
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: left and you want to have you know, they're different players,
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: but uh, there's a there's a term in in defensive
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: line play that's called one gap or two gap and
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: and A and a single gap type of a player
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: would be one where you say Okay, you want to
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: you want to get into that gap as fast as
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: you can and create mayhem and you know, play the
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: run on the way to the quarterback and just with
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: your quickness get in there and penetrate, get deep into
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: the backfield.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: And then a two gaping is where the defensive lineman
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: they're they're gonna hold up uh, they're gonna take their
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: hands and they're gonna kind of like almost like bench
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: like how you would be in a bench breast before
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: you lowered it down.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: You know, you have your elbows lock.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: You want to lock your and then be able to
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: to throw the defensive linemen off on either side, or
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: if you're pass rushing, you can just convert that to
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: a bull rush.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: And he's about as good a two.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: Gaping style defensive linemen as there is in this league.
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: And now the Seahawks play a little bit of a
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: hybrid where they play a gap and a half where
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: they they want to get into a gap, but then
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: they don't want to penetrate and they still want to
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: maintain the ability to throw.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: And get back in to you.
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: It takes a lot of strength to be a sea
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: defensive alignment to play that gap in a half.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: Style and so but your mind does jump there because
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, the Rams are your chief competitor, and they've
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: added Garrett, and they've added mcduffy. It looks like Aaron
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: Donald might be coming back, and you're like, oh, man,
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: do we have enough? And then all of a sudden
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: they becomes available, like, oh, I mean, we might not
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: even need that guy, but they added Garrett. Let's add beya.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: You know that you sort of have that instinct, sure,
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: and and and I agree with you that the Rams
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: moves would incite you to do it even more.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: But I think that even in the absence of those
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: Ran acquisitions, you'd be looking at, hey, can we better
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: our team this way?
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: And and you know, assuming that he likes the puge.
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: Sound region, and and I would would maybe you win
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: all ties in some type of a battle. I don't
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: think it's gonna happen, but we're all Vitavea fans around
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: here at lisas Husky fans, we want the best for
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: his career, and that happens to meander to Seattle, that'd
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: be all the better.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: Well, he's on the last year, so maybe maybe Leonard
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: Williams does play his last season who knows. I mean,
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: looks like he's got a lot left, but maybe veya
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: as a free agent who knows Aaron Donald. By the way,
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: speaking of that, this is one thing that hasn't been
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: part of the Aaron Donald is he coming back conversation.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: He resumes the contract that he was scheduled to make
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: when he retired, so that just picks up where it
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: left off.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: So it paused, It just pauses. Yep.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: So he's on the books for thirty million going into
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: this season. They don't have that kind of cap space now.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: Certainly it'd be subject to possible negotiation if he does
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: decide to come back, But it's not just as easy
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: as hey, Aaron Donald wants to play suit up here
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: we go. Looks like they would have to do a
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: little bit of restructuring or maybe even let somebody go
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: in order to make room for it.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, thirty million is not easy to get under the
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: app at this point.
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure exactly what they do. They could they
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: could sign him to a long term contract that they
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  Speaker 3: know he's not going to fulfill, but that would allow
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: them to spread the signing bonus over and that you know,
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  Speaker 3: maybe his last year is you know, ninety million, which
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: they're never going to pay. But I think at this
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: juncture two things. I don't really think they care much
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  Speaker 3: about the future. I say much because they did draft
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: Ty Simpson, but other than that, all their their moves
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: are for the now.
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  Speaker 2: You know, let's take advantage of Matthew Stafford. Well he's
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: still healthy and young enough.
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  Speaker 3: And then the other part of it is when they
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  Speaker 3: wanted in twenty twenty one, remember they it seemed like
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  Speaker 3: they went all in then, you know, playing for them
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  Speaker 3: now they met Odell Beckham, and the way they acquired Stafford,
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  Speaker 3: you know, all the you know, two first rounders plus
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: Jared goff and and there were some other moves that
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: they had made that that appeared to be like, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: they're leveraging, they don't care about the future. Less sneed
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  Speaker 3: and and Kevin Demoff the president. And yet they never
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: had the dip that we might have forecasted in twenty
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: twenty one. They did a remarkable job of roster. They
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: drafted well with Jared Verse and Cam Kitchens and and others,
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: and and they just never had that dip. So maybe
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: in their mind they're thinking, hey, we've done this all
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  Speaker 3: in to get a Super Bowl before what it didn't
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  Speaker 3: really hurt us. Let's let's go all in again. I'm
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: sure you know, well we can figure this thing out
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  Speaker 3: on the fly. We've done it once before.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: So last I want to mention and I got like
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  Speaker 1: thirty seconds here, but this can be quick. The Minnesota
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  Speaker 1: Vikings made an interesting signing yesterday. Three time Pro bowler
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: Jamal Adams is now a Minnesota Viking. What do you
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: miss more his bloated sack total or his over confidence?
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, is barking h at the uh the uh the
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: sideline after he didn't do anything right the opposition.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I really want I.
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  Speaker 3: Really missed the turning down an opportunity to uh to
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: tackle a ball carrier at the goal line.
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  Speaker 2: And you miss that? Yeah? Yeah, uh, I.
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: Just I just I just loved it when when opposing
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: running backs were coming and and I'm looking for him,
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: you know, hey, he could he could punch the Maybe
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: he couldn't with his momentum make the tackle without getting
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: trucked into the end zone. But but he could cause
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: a collision and cause a fumble at the one yard line.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: But I just love how we realized, well that's silly
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: that's probably I probably can't cause a FuMB. Well, I
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: might as well just get a bucket of popcorn and
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: watch this running back stroll into the end zone.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I miss that. There's a lot of the popcorn.
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  Speaker 3: We miss you, the popcorn touchdowns by the opposition, Yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 1: The business decisions, Yeah yeah, sure, miss him all right.
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  Speaker 1: Coming up next, Ryan Heally's going to join US Sports
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