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2-18-26 Hour 2 - Tony Clark Did WHAT?/Take A Flyer on Tyreek?, Melo Homecoming?/Oh, By The Way · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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Speaker 2: All right, Bill Hanslick Dans, We're gonna join us both
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Speaker 2: in the nine o'clock hour. As we learned of the
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Speaker 2: passing of Doug Mo yesterday, Vick, you got a couple
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Speaker 2: of things that you want to play from Doug Mo.
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Speaker 2: I'll let you set it up.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, listen, we have a ninety minute documentary
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Speaker 3: that we produced.
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Speaker 4: That if you want to watch the whole thing.
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Speaker 3: Altitude Plus has it. I believe the Nuggets YouTube page
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Speaker 3: has it.
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Speaker 4: It's available to get and we've done it. It's been
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Speaker 4: out for years. So really good. It's really well done, dude.
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Speaker 3: I want to thank Julie Brown and Brownan for helping
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Speaker 3: out by the way she was. Without her, we wouldn't
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Speaker 3: have gotten that to the finish line, for sure. It was,
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Speaker 3: believe it or not, most the first thing I wanted.
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Speaker 4: To do when I moved over to Altitude.
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Speaker 3: I said, we need to do a documentary on Doug Mo.
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Speaker 3: I remember and I this Matt Croll gave us the
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Speaker 3: tools to get it done, and we went out and
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Speaker 3: got it done, and it took a couple of years,
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Speaker 3: but thank god we did because it's the only as
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Speaker 3: far as I know, it's the only life story of
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Speaker 3: Doug Moo that exists in a television format. So we
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Speaker 3: flew out, we talked to him, we talked to coaches,
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Speaker 3: and some of the stories that he related to us
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Speaker 3: during the few days we spent with him.
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Speaker 4: I will cherish that project forever.
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Speaker 3: It is still the greatest television I've ever been a
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Speaker 3: part of because of the redeeming.
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Speaker 4: Value and quality of it.
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Speaker 3: But this story really resonated. Do you want to know
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Speaker 3: what Doug Moo is? Do you want to know who
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Speaker 3: he is? Do you want to know what kind of
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Speaker 3: personality he is? He played high school basketball at Erasmus
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Speaker 3: High School in Brooklyn. Such a good story man in
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Speaker 3: the summers, he was such a basketball junkie. He wanted
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Speaker 3: to keep playing in the summers, and not just one league,
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Speaker 3: but every league. And back then summer leagues. They were
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Speaker 3: truly tribal, like different religions held leagues with their schools.
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Speaker 4: So to think of this, this is the early and
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Speaker 4: mid fifties.
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Speaker 3: Catholic leagues, Protestant leagues.
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Speaker 2: So it wasn't AAU basketball No.
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Speaker 3: No religious institutions held their own leagues. So Doug Mouth,
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Speaker 3: he thought to himself, you know what, I'm agnostic.
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Speaker 4: I'll do it all. I want to give me all
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Speaker 4: one of the leagues. That's all I want to do.
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Speaker 4: I just want to hoop.
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Speaker 3: And this is the story he related to us, and
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Speaker 3: I thought it was pure Doug.
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Speaker 5: When I was at Erasmas, I played in a lot
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Speaker 5: of church leagues, played in the Catholic league, I played
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Speaker 5: in the Protestant league, and I played in the Jewish league.
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Speaker 5: You weren't allowed to play in those leagues if you're
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Speaker 5: playing high school ball. So the second half of my
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Speaker 5: junior year, when I was on the team, I had
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Speaker 5: to change my name in the Church because I still
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Speaker 5: wanted to play in the Church league. Played in the
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Speaker 5: Catholic League and the Chatterton Protestant League on the March
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Speaker 5: and uh Jewishly the moscowits so was moscowits Martin and chat.
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Speaker 5: And then the senior year I couldn't play. People got
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Speaker 5: to where they knew who you were. So I think
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Speaker 5: I'm mature, immature now high school I was really immature.
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Speaker 3: That's so good, so good Chatterton Martin and muscowits.
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Speaker 4: How many times do you.
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Speaker 2: Think as coach yelled at him, like just at his
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Speaker 2: last hey, muscowits, and he didn't respond because oh.
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Speaker 4: The coaches knew. The coaches knew, the coaches recruited him.
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Speaker 4: I mean, he just had to change his name, you know.
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Speaker 4: They all he wanted to listen. All he wanted to
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Speaker 4: do was hoop. So yeah, if it means a little
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Speaker 4: name change, to keep on playing, and you change your name.
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Speaker 3: He realized Doug was an accidental coach. He never intended
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Speaker 3: to get into coaching. He went to North Carolina to
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Speaker 3: play for Dean Smith Get the Grades Right, played at
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Speaker 3: Elon for a while. Dean Smith convinced him to try coaching.
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Speaker 3: He said, I don't want to coach. His best friend
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Speaker 3: was who Larry Brown.
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Speaker 4: Larry Brown want the.
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Speaker 3: Greatest coaches of all time. He's the guy who convinced him. Here,
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Speaker 3: just sit on the side with me and we'll coach together.
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Speaker 3: And then he got the Nuggets job when the previous coach,
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Speaker 3: Donny Walsh got fired. He got nudged into that job.
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Speaker 3: He his intent in life was never to coach, an
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Speaker 3: accidental coach at one point, the winning his coach in
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Speaker 3: Nuggets history.
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Speaker 2: That's crazy to be a be that caliber of a coach.
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Speaker 2: And you're like, I don't even want to do this.
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Speaker 3: You're gonna hear from Danissel and Bill Hans coming up
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Speaker 3: in the nine o'clock hour, So if you want to
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Speaker 3: be regaled, and Doug Moos's storys in there enough to
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Speaker 3: fill two or three days of radio, those guys will
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Speaker 3: join us in the nine o'clock hour to give him
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Speaker 3: his proper due.
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Speaker 4: And I would also recommend watch Tom and ron Zapolo
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Speaker 4: and Woody reminisced as well, because the word came down
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Speaker 4: right as they wrapped up their podcast and they turned
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Speaker 4: the microphones back on and then they did that as well.
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Speaker 4: And I think, I think that's a really good guys
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Speaker 4: who obviously knew him really really really well. That's a
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Speaker 4: really good thing to watch too.
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Speaker 2: Hey just quickly here, did you guys see the story
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Speaker 2: I'm just talking about the MLB earlier, the MLB PA
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Speaker 2: president Tony Clark is resigning, And when I first saw it,
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Speaker 2: I was like, oh no, this guy sees that they're
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Speaker 2: going head on for a lockout next year, and he
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Speaker 2: wants to jump ship before we get there, because I
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Speaker 2: think everybody is convinced that there is going to be
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Speaker 2: some sort of shortened strike season next year because the
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Speaker 2: owners are really dug in on getting a salary cap now.
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Speaker 2: And it turns out he's resigning for another reason. Do
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Speaker 2: you see what it was?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, he was nailed. Oh I guess I shouldn't say
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Speaker 4: it like that. Yes, I'm sorry. Yes, he had relations
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Speaker 4: with another there you go, didn't she work?
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Speaker 3: Didn't she work there as well?
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Speaker 4: Hired? Then?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, let me tell you something, as my wife doesn't
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Speaker 2: have a sister. But I can only imagine if I
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Speaker 2: had a job that was paying me a couple of
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Speaker 2: MILLI year, and this is how I got to be
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Speaker 2: let go. You're I'm going like, ta haiti, You're never
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Speaker 2: gonna see me again. There's no way I could show
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Speaker 2: my face anywhere. I don't think that's how way I
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Speaker 2: lost my job.
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Speaker 4: Even with your own family, I mean, that's what I'm saying.
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Speaker 2: It was with your brother and your parents, and my
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Speaker 2: parents'd be like, what the hell's a mad Absolutely.
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Speaker 4: I'll tell you what.
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Speaker 3: Tony Clark was an intimidating hitter Man.
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Speaker 4: Yes, he was.
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Speaker 2: He still is intimidating. You see the beard he's rocking
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Speaker 2: right now. It's like a strong beard. Looks like it hurts.
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Speaker 4: That being said, did you read Patrick Saunder's article in
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Speaker 4: the Denver Post about with Kyle Freeland. He's the new
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Speaker 4: team rep for the Colorado Rockies for the MLBPA. What
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Speaker 4: do you say? Apparently the MLBPA and Freeland is saying
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Speaker 4: that they're they're preparing for a massive battle.
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Speaker 2: Well, of course, I just saw 'm a child the
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Speaker 2: other day.
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Speaker 4: Uh.
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Speaker 2: Remember, Machado is not part of the Dodgers. He's competing
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Speaker 2: against the Dodgers, and they asked him, what do you
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Speaker 2: think about what the Dodgers have done? And he said,
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Speaker 2: I love it. I think every team should do it.
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Speaker 4: Why do you think he loves it?
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Speaker 3: Because yet, now go ask the players who make minimum
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Speaker 3: if they love it.
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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sure they love it too, because they have
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Speaker 2: the potential to get there. They love it too. There's
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Speaker 2: there's not a lot of guys making the minimum in
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Speaker 2: the just.
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Speaker 3: Generally speaking, players are gonna love it. You're right, because
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Speaker 3: when you know, I don't think people understand how rare
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Speaker 3: the case is with the La Dodgers. They're owned by Guggenheim.
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Speaker 3: I'm a fund.
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Speaker 4: It's they're owned by you know what, Pathosh Rapnel Brett Brett.
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Speaker 3: The Dodgers are owned by a pile of money.
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Speaker 4: I had this debate with my future.
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Speaker 3: Son in law in La over the weekend because he's
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Speaker 3: a huge Dodgers fan and he didn't see anything wrong
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Speaker 3: with the present system.
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Speaker 4: I said, dude, your ownership group is this. You have
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Speaker 4: this few a real problem, Vicott. I don't know how
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Speaker 4: to tell you this.
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Speaker 2: Like they're owned by Scrooge mcdoc.
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Speaker 4: It's just a pretty pretty.
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Speaker 3: Much most You're not gonna You're not gonna be happy
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Speaker 3: with me. I cheated on Nuggets Nation over the weekend.
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Speaker 4: I saw you played on the Lakers court. I saw what.
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Speaker 4: I don't want to say anything, right, I gotta tell
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Speaker 4: you about this.
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Speaker 3: So on game day All Star Game, Dave McManamon, who
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Speaker 3: was ESPN's own you know he's married to Malika. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: so he invited me to be part of this All
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Speaker 3: Star Media Game invite. Only most you wouldn't have not
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Speaker 3: you would not have gotten an invite.
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Speaker 4: I wouldn't want one.
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Speaker 3: And we all went out there. It was a private
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Speaker 3: home in the hills of La the Ritzy Hills, the
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Speaker 3: will Smith Hill. Is it a famous person's home? This
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Speaker 3: this guy used to own La Gear. I don't know
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Speaker 3: if it still exists Ella Gear, I don't know. He
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Speaker 3: has a full basketball auditorium in his backyard indoor and
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Speaker 3: it's all decked out in Lakers stuff. He's e owns
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Speaker 3: like tickets to He's owned front court tickets to Lakers
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Speaker 3: for years. And apparently it's where guys go for private
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Speaker 3: workouts when they don't want to be seen, when they don't,
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Speaker 3: you know, want the media involved. This court is unfreaking real,
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Speaker 3: and even me, the most ardent anti Laker fan.
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Speaker 4: That exists, had to be impressed by what I saw.
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Speaker 4: Get out of here.
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Speaker 3: Ye, well, this is my opportunity to call out all
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Speaker 3: Nuggets fans.
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Speaker 4: What are you losers doing?
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Speaker 3: Is there not a Nuggets fan out there that can
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Speaker 3: build an all Nuggets auditorium somewhere in your private home.
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Speaker 4: It's not needed, man, it's not. It's it's gaudy, it's
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Speaker 4: all it's I was going to VIC, but my ad
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Speaker 4: the basement prevented that.
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Speaker 3: Until a Nuggets fan matches what I saw in La
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Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
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Speaker 4: They got us.
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Speaker 3: They got us, and there's nothing we can do about it.
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Speaker 2: I don't even know who I'm talking to right now.
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Speaker 4: You know what we do in Denver instead, You know
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Speaker 4: what we do. Instead of building.
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Speaker 3: Beautiful, spacious, private gyms, we're taking our current gyms and
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Speaker 3: transplanting them and turning them into pickleball courts. That's what
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Speaker 3: we do because we're losers.
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Speaker 4: That's true. That is not that's your But I just
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Speaker 4: knew I shouldn't have come home. I just know it.
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Speaker 4: It took me an hour and sixteen minutes to realize that. Dude,
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Speaker 4: listen back to the Dodgers real quick. It's a problem
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Speaker 4: for the game. It's a problem for all but a
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Speaker 4: handful of teams in Major League Baseball. It's a problem.
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Speaker 4: You know what I watched last night National Treasure, which I love.
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Speaker 4: By the way, I've probably seen this good time.
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Speaker 2: It's a good one.
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Speaker 4: So at the end when he lights the torch and
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Speaker 4: it goes up all the way through the treasure room
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Speaker 4: and you see all you you see how big it
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Speaker 4: is and all that treasure. That's what owns the La Dodgers. Okay,
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Speaker 4: the the marble or what do you call it all
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Speaker 4: the Egyptian stuff and all the scrolls of at all
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Speaker 4: that they own, the Dodgers. It'd be like money fort
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Speaker 4: Knocks owning the team. That's exactly right. Who's the that's
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Speaker 4: Fort Knocks. Yeah, but a building full of gold cane
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Speaker 4: on the team. Well, it does, it does. That's exactly
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Speaker 4: what the Dodgers are. It's it's an absolute joke and
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Speaker 4: everybody knows it's a joke. And you know what, I'm
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Speaker 4: here for it. If baseball shuts down completely for a year,
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Speaker 4: eight years, ten years, hey, no skin off my teeth.
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Speaker 4: I couldn't give a rats rip less.
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Speaker 2: I would love to hear contract negotiations with the Dodgers.
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Speaker 2: Like you're sitting down at the table, They're like, all right,
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Speaker 2: what what do you want? You're like seven hundred million? Yeah? Sure?
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Speaker 2: Like do they even push back on price? It was
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Speaker 2: just like just say the number and then that we're good.
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Speaker 2: Just say it out loud.
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Speaker 4: Why of these pop into my head? You ever see
12:11
Speaker 4: the Seinfeld episode when he in a lane are flying
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Speaker 4: and he gets upgraded to first class. No, that's too bad, Mitchell.
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Speaker 4: You've seen that, right, sure have. So he's sitting with
12:20
Speaker 4: a super model in first classes, lanes back shoved back
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Speaker 4: in the economy in the middle doesn't get a meal
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Speaker 4: or anything. And the flight attenant comes by and says,
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Speaker 4: more of anything, and he looks at the girl and
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Speaker 4: he goes more of everything, which is exactly what the
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Speaker 4: Dodgers are. They're more just more of everything. Everybody gets,
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Speaker 4: I mean, everybody gets money. Everybody gets everything they want.
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Speaker 2: Got another keyword coming away in just a couple of minutes,
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Speaker 2: along with the NBA is very concerned, very very concerned
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Speaker 2: about tanking. And there's one sport that has people openly
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Speaker 2: tanking and nobody cares. We'll get to it next. All right,
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Speaker 2: some news out of the NFL yesterday, and we can
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Speaker 2: take this two different ways. Number one, Miami Dolphins.
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Speaker 4: Wait wait wait, wait like Peter, like the name Peter r. K.
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Speaker 4: Well that somebody needs to tell the computer that that's
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Speaker 4: the keyword.
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Speaker 2: Oh you know what I've done my part of this,
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Speaker 2: I don't know, Okay to fix that part?
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Speaker 4: Cool? Uh.
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Speaker 2: The Miami Dolphins have released both Bradley Chubb and Tyreek
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Speaker 2: Hill yesterday. Now, very clearly, one thing is for certain.
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Speaker 2: Out of all the trades and Russell Wilson and the
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Speaker 2: things that you missed, you won this one. You traded
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Speaker 2: Bradley Chubb for a first round pick. You parlayed that
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Speaker 2: first round pick for Sean Payton. Sean Payton has now
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Speaker 2: led you to the AFC Championship Game in two straight
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Speaker 2: playoff appearances. So that's number one. Number two, I'm kicking
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Speaker 2: the tires on any talented player that's on the market
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Speaker 2: right now. The Broncos are in that position, Okay, they
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Speaker 2: should be talking to everyone who could potentially make them better.
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Speaker 2: That includes Tyreek, That includes Bradley Chubb. For all I care.
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Speaker 2: You should be talking to everybody you have cap space.
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Speaker 2: You're in a position that it's sort of like championship
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Speaker 2: or bust. Now that you made it as far as
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Speaker 2: you did this past season, I think everybody should be
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Speaker 2: on the table if they have talent. And I know
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Speaker 2: Tyreek is like well, character issues and speed. Guy who's
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Speaker 2: getting older and has a leg injury. I get it,
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Speaker 2: But see if that guy can still run, because if
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Speaker 2: he can, I'd love to add that to the offense.
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Speaker 4: I'd love to You know.
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Speaker 3: The Tyreek thing is very intriguing. That's my word of
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Speaker 3: the day. Clearly he can't walk away from that kind
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Speaker 3: of talent. He automatically makes your offense, your team better.
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Speaker 3: I just don't know if I can trust him.
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Speaker 2: I get that totally. I totally get. It's my same
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Speaker 2: concerns I have with AJ Brown and George Pickens and
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Speaker 2: guys like that. But I think you're in a position
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Speaker 2: to talk to everyone.
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Speaker 4: I'm trying to think back, did Sean Peyton ever have
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Speaker 4: a problem child diva on the Saints?
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Speaker 2: Did he Thomas got there.
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Speaker 4: And get there? You also recall when Sean Payton took
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Speaker 4: over the job, he started the clean house a little bit.
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Speaker 3: Jeremy Shockey was a little you know, he had a personality.
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Speaker 4: Sure, But Tyreek Tyreek is a huge, huge personality. And
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Speaker 4: there's a lot that I'm just saying. When you sign
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Speaker 4: a Tyreek Hill some off the field issues, there's a
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Speaker 4: lot that comes with it. You can call it baggage,
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Speaker 4: you can call it, call it whatever you want to
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Speaker 4: call it. You're not just getting the player and his ability.
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Speaker 4: You are getting god everything else that comes with it.
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Speaker 4: But his ability, obviously in his speed, is so tantalizing.
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Speaker 4: I'm just I'm wondering, if that's a Sean Payton kind
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Speaker 4: of guy, will you talk about a game breaker or
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Speaker 4: at this point do you do you just do you
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Speaker 4: just eat all of that and deal with it because
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Speaker 4: he can help you get over that offensive hump that
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Speaker 4: you need to get over right now.
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Speaker 3: Is there anyone more tantalizing athletically than Tyreek killed offense?
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Speaker 3: I mean, you you put him in the open field,
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Speaker 3: you throw him a simple slant pattern and he could
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Speaker 3: take it the distance.
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Speaker 4: Yeah. Every time, Well we've seen it against the Denver Broncos.
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Speaker 4: It's it's not fun to watch.
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Speaker 2: I think that you should you should be in on
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Speaker 2: anybody that has talent and at least be poking around.
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Speaker 2: Now here's the other thing to this that I think
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Speaker 2: is really interesting. By the Dolphins doing this, they have
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Speaker 2: admitted to the world, Hey, we're gonna suck this year
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Speaker 2: on purpose. They're and no one cares. Meanwhile, the NBA
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Speaker 2: is like, I think we need to have a tournament
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Speaker 2: to see who has the first pick in the draft.
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Speaker 2: And I was like, maybe maybe you could just do this.
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Speaker 2: Maybe the worst team gets the first pick. Maybe that's
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Speaker 2: just how it should work.
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Speaker 3: Do you understand why there's so much unrest with the
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Speaker 3: NBA and the tanking issue? Do you know the root
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Speaker 3: of the problem here?
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Speaker 4: Gambell gambling.
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Speaker 3: The problem gambling companies who are in bed with the NBA,
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Speaker 3: and they're in bed with the NBA. The NBA was
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Speaker 3: the first league, by the way, you go back in history,
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Speaker 3: what was the first league to embrace the gambling company?
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Speaker 4: It was the NBA. The NBA, so they took him in.
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Speaker 3: And now the gambling companies are like, wait a minute, this, uh,
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Speaker 3: this ain't good.
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Speaker 4: Now.
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Speaker 3: All these these bets we have out there are getting skewed.
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Speaker 2: There's a difference with what the NBA is dealing with
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Speaker 2: with Utah right now. I think it's perfectly okay to
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Speaker 2: have your team suck because you're sucking with a purpose.
18:05
Speaker 2: I mean NFL franchises, they make mottos around their team,
18:09
Speaker 2: sucking for certain quarterbacks, suck for luck or whatever. All
18:13
Speaker 2: these different things are. We've seen it over and over again.
18:16
Speaker 2: The difference with Utah is that they're sucking in the
18:18
Speaker 2: fourth quarter on purpose, and that's different. Not playing your
18:21
Speaker 2: best players in crunch time so you intentionally lose is
18:25
Speaker 2: different than just having a bad team that loses.
18:28
Speaker 3: You know, I'm hearing all these ideas to fix the
18:30
Speaker 3: nbas if, I mean, I don't understand what needs fixing.
18:33
Speaker 3: There's this movement now to eliminate the NBA draft and
18:37
Speaker 3: just have free agency insanity. Absolutely, do you understand the
18:41
Speaker 3: ramifications of that? Do people think this stuff through? Oh,
18:46
Speaker 3: you know, every team, each on their own, they should
18:48
Speaker 3: be able to spend amount of money and recruit. Do
18:50
Speaker 3: you under most what happens if you say no draft,
18:56
Speaker 3: Every team can just bid on whatever college player that
18:58
Speaker 3: exists and let bidding begin.
19:00
Speaker 2: What happens if you do that, then your league becomes
19:03
Speaker 2: the LA Dodgers.
19:03
Speaker 4: It's exactly right. I mean, you have you have your cat,
19:06
Speaker 4: but all the best teams get all the best players. Still.
19:09
Speaker 3: Here's why because people may say, well, no, that's not
19:11
Speaker 3: possible because there's salary caps. So let me ask you this.
19:13
Speaker 3: If there's a shoe deal between Nike and A J.
19:17
Speaker 3: De Monsa, the guy from BYU, there's a great shoe deal,
19:20
Speaker 3: where do you think Nike is going to push?
19:23
Speaker 4: They don't want him in Charlotte. They do not want
19:25
Speaker 4: him in Charlotte, on Milwaukee, they don't want him in Sacramento.
19:28
Speaker 4: Do you think they want him to play Los Angeles?
19:31
Speaker 3: And you think or maybe the fluff the money up
19:33
Speaker 3: a little bit if he plays in a big market,
19:35
Speaker 3: of course, So don't don't do this, man, don't do
19:38
Speaker 3: this because all you're gonna do is make the big
19:41
Speaker 3: markets bigger.
19:42
Speaker 4: That's all you're gonna do.
19:44
Speaker 3: The only chance these teams in the NBA have.
19:47
Speaker 4: Is to draft and develop. It's the only reason there's
19:50
Speaker 4: been parody for the last decade. But why are they
19:53
Speaker 4: so like it's the only reason that Oklahoma City is
19:57
Speaker 4: where they are, well, not the only reason. They made
19:59
Speaker 4: some good deals as well, but those draft picks have
20:02
Speaker 4: been remarkably productive for them.
20:04
Speaker 2: I just I don't understand the concept of a lottery
20:07
Speaker 2: and why they think that's better than just the worst
20:09
Speaker 2: team getting the first pick.
20:11
Speaker 4: Because of the tanking, that's why.
20:14
Speaker 2: Miami just admitted they're going to tank in the NFL.
20:16
Speaker 2: They admitted that they released their best players. They said,
20:18
Speaker 2: we're done, We're not we're not competing this year, and
20:21
Speaker 2: and everybody there's both different, yeah.
20:24
Speaker 4: But both different.
20:24
Speaker 3: Though it is sometimes less to what you deem is
20:27
Speaker 3: less talented.
20:27
Speaker 4: Sometimes those teams win.
20:30
Speaker 2: Miami's not winning.
20:31
Speaker 4: I think I think football is different because of the
20:33
Speaker 4: physical nature of the game. But number two, Brett Miami
20:36
Speaker 4: was seven and ten. Two has got a bad cabasa right. Yeah,
20:40
Speaker 4: you can see the riding on the wall where they're
20:42
Speaker 4: gonna have to eat some dirt for a couple of
20:44
Speaker 4: years to get out from underneath that contract. But they're
20:46
Speaker 4: going to do it. They're they're in sort of a rebuild,
20:49
Speaker 4: though not necessarily they're they're tanking. They're I think they're trying.
20:53
Speaker 4: They're going to try to win.
20:55
Speaker 2: What does try to win mean? Well, guys on the field,
20:57
Speaker 2: they're going to try and win, but if you put
20:59
Speaker 2: bad players on the field, he probably won't.
21:00
Speaker 4: Here's what they're not doing. They're not taking all their
21:03
Speaker 4: first stringers and putting them on the bench for the
21:04
Speaker 4: fourth quarter into twelve.
21:05
Speaker 2: That's the individual game situation is different.
21:09
Speaker 4: Like it's seventeen seventeen and you're sitting all your starters.
21:12
Speaker 2: I mean that's no, no, no, that's tanking. Here's the
21:15
Speaker 2: difference though. This is why the Utah thing is different
21:17
Speaker 2: than what I'm talking about. That will affect gambling companies
21:21
Speaker 2: because that is one singular game in the middle of it.
21:24
Speaker 2: If Miami is tied seventeen to seventeen going into the
21:27
Speaker 2: fourth quarter and then they decide we're just going to
21:29
Speaker 2: bench a healthy to a that's much different than being like,
21:33
Speaker 2: our team stinks from Week one to Week seventeen on purpose.
21:38
Speaker 2: That's what I don't get. It's like, if it's your
21:40
Speaker 2: only recourse if your team stinks, you need talent. You
21:43
Speaker 2: get talent through the draft to get a good draft pick,
21:46
Speaker 2: and a good player you need to be bad. That
21:49
Speaker 2: all makes sense. It checks out. Yeah, I mean, I
21:53
Speaker 2: don't even think that's tanking. That's just rebuilding.
21:56
Speaker 3: The other big issue that's going on now and people
22:01
Speaker 3: are pressing on this is the length of the NBA
22:04
Speaker 3: season like it's it's almost ironic. The NBA seasons in
22:07
Speaker 3: the NHL seasons run parallel. The NHL is actually adding
22:11
Speaker 3: to its schedule, actually adding games. In the NBA, they're
22:14
Speaker 3: talking about removing games, subtracting part of the schedule, and
22:18
Speaker 3: it's been thrown out there, maybe ten games come off
22:21
Speaker 3: the schedule. My question remains, if you take ten revenue
22:27
Speaker 3: generating games off the NBA schedule, what do you do
22:32
Speaker 3: with the player salaries?
22:34
Speaker 2: Yeah, they aren't taking less money. So that's why all
22:37
Speaker 2: of this is like the only option that you're going
22:39
Speaker 2: to have is expanding the season. You aren't shortening anything.
22:42
Speaker 2: It's never gonna happen. They aren't going to voluntarily give
22:45
Speaker 2: away money. But so vicim, by the way, take the game,
22:50
Speaker 2: take ten games off the schedule eighty two to seventy two.
22:52
Speaker 2: Are they still going to do load management?
22:54
Speaker 4: Yes, yep, of course they are.
22:55
Speaker 3: So it doesn't fix anything. Are they're still going to
22:57
Speaker 3: sit back to backs? Yeah, they may not have as many,
22:59
Speaker 3: but yep, yeah, fifteen percent less, fifteen percent fewer games
23:04
Speaker 3: is not going to solve a lot of the problems
23:06
Speaker 3: that exist. Is what I'm trying to say.
23:08
Speaker 4: I saw your stuff all over all over the interwebs
23:11
Speaker 4: and whatnot when you were in LA So I guess
23:15
Speaker 4: my question to you is, what's the feeling around the
23:17
Speaker 4: people you were talking to regarding the league right now?
23:21
Speaker 4: Is there is there is their genuine worry? Is their
23:23
Speaker 4: genuine concern? Everybody thinks everything's just honky dory, everything's fine.
23:27
Speaker 3: No, there's the players. Players are having a good time.
23:31
Speaker 3: They're making good money.
23:33
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm not asking you. I'm not asking you if
23:36
Speaker 4: a guy who's making twenty five million years having a
23:39
Speaker 4: good time. Hey, What I'm trying to ask you is
23:42
Speaker 4: behind the scenes, I saw your Adams, I saw the
23:43
Speaker 4: Adams silver stuff. I saw all of that. This is
23:46
Speaker 4: very vic really is very concerning. And else is all
23:49
Speaker 4: where he said we're not going to contract and we're
23:51
Speaker 4: not going to move, We're going to expand I said,
23:53
Speaker 4: there there comes some more money right there. Yeah, But
23:56
Speaker 4: but are you do you want to buy into this
23:58
Speaker 4: right now? Because to me it has a really easy feeling.
24:01
Speaker 2: I walked by Bruce Brown in the airport a couple
24:02
Speaker 2: days ago. I should have asked him. You having a
24:04
Speaker 2: good time.
24:05
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm sure he's having a great time.
24:07
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, else have a good time. This came
24:09
Speaker 3: up again because I saw him at the All Star Game,
24:11
Speaker 3: and I've got some insight.
24:13
Speaker 4: Ladies in gentlemen, imagine what imagine this guy real quick. Sorry, Vic,
24:16
Speaker 4: I hate to cut you off, but bright imagine this guy.
24:19
Speaker 4: But you have players having a good.
24:20
Speaker 2: Time, good time, have fun, eat some food.
24:25
Speaker 3: About I know I've brought this up many times on
24:28
Speaker 3: the show, and some of you are probably tired of
24:30
Speaker 3: me going here, but I don't care because I think
24:34
Speaker 3: it's very important. When you write the history of Nuggets basketball,
24:38
Speaker 3: we just saw Doug mom not doing it.
24:40
Speaker 4: The legendary Dug Mo.
24:42
Speaker 3: He is the history of Nuggets basketball. He's one of
24:45
Speaker 3: the forefathers. He's on the Mount Rushmore. Can't write the
24:48
Speaker 3: history of Nuggets basketball without Doug Mo. Nor can you
24:52
Speaker 3: write the history of Nuggets basketball without Carmelo. Anthony, who
24:57
Speaker 3: now works for NBC, ran in the Carmelo and he
25:02
Speaker 3: told me off camera a couple of things that he's
25:04
Speaker 3: working on, and one of those things is to make
25:08
Speaker 3: good here in Denver. And when I say make good,
25:13
Speaker 3: when you hear this interview I did with him. You
25:17
Speaker 3: tell me what comes to mind. Do you have it, Chris?
25:19
Speaker 5: Do you have it?
25:20
Speaker 2: Ready to go?
25:21
Speaker 4: All right?
25:21
Speaker 3: So, Moje, I want your reaction and I know what is.
25:25
Speaker 4: This something new? Or is this something I've seen before.
25:27
Speaker 3: I want you to hear the hear the interview, and
25:29
Speaker 3: then I'm going to give you some information after the interview.
25:31
Speaker 3: I just want to get your violent reaction to this exchange.
25:35
Speaker 4: Yeah, you got that right ahead. When are you coming
25:37
Speaker 4: back to Denver? I'll be there soon. I'll be there soon.
25:40
Speaker 4: I think we have a game coming out coming out there.
25:43
Speaker 4: You're looking forward to that, I'm looking forward. So I've
25:45
Speaker 4: been looking forward to coming to Denver for a long time.
25:47
Speaker 4: I've been looking for you.
25:48
Speaker 3: Don't understand how many fans want to see that fixed.
25:51
Speaker 4: Yes, I don't know what is there to fix. I
25:55
Speaker 4: don't know what is there to fix. I'm good.
25:57
Speaker 2: I love Denver, man, I don't I don't know what.
25:59
Speaker 4: Left deposit posits. The lack of self awareness of this
26:03
Speaker 4: guy is. It's mind boggling. The lack of self awareness
26:10
Speaker 4: of this dude is unbelievable. Vic to spit out that
26:16
Speaker 4: statement to you, at the All Star Game. I don't
26:18
Speaker 4: know what there is to fix that. Right there gets
26:21
Speaker 4: them another five years in my book, So tack it
26:24
Speaker 4: on to whatever whatever it is for me right now.
26:26
Speaker 4: Maybe it's two, maybe it's ten, maybe it's fifteen. Tack
26:29
Speaker 4: on another five years, because I ain't doing that. I
26:32
Speaker 4: ain't I ain't doing intellectual dishonesty, and I ain't doing
26:37
Speaker 4: a lack of self awareness. I'm not gonna do it. Continue, Mitchell, Please, No,
26:41
Speaker 4: that was it. That was all. That was pretty much it.
26:43
Speaker 4: Oh well then then then what is there say?
26:47
Speaker 3: What I'm here to tell you is he understands that
26:51
Speaker 3: there are people like you that exist. There are many
26:53
Speaker 3: like you that exist out there.
26:55
Speaker 4: There are virtually all of us that are just like
26:57
Speaker 4: out there.
26:57
Speaker 3: No is not the true many of us on the
27:00
Speaker 3: other side who understand that that Carmelo will certainly do,
27:04
Speaker 3: did not do himself any favors. Listen, Carl, I'm not naive.
27:07
Speaker 3: Carmelo is the reason why he's no longer a nugget.
27:09
Speaker 3: Carmelo and his ex wife for the reasons he left.
27:13
Speaker 3: He's the reason this wasn't nuggets induced. It was induced
27:16
Speaker 3: by his camp. I understand all of that. But I'm
27:19
Speaker 3: also of the opinion that at some point somebody has
27:24
Speaker 3: to take the first step. Somebody has to say, all right,
27:27
Speaker 3: let's shake hands. Whose hand goes out first? And I
27:30
Speaker 3: think it behooves the Nuggets to throw their hand out first.
27:35
Speaker 3: That's me, that's my opinion. There's absolutely no need to
27:39
Speaker 3: why not what?
27:41
Speaker 4: What? Just putting a right hand out to Carmelo Anthony
27:44
Speaker 4: do for the Nuggets at all good spirit, He's the
27:49
Speaker 4: right thing to do. He accused the team of trying
27:52
Speaker 4: to erase his legacy by giving his number to Nicola. Yo.
27:56
Speaker 4: He's wrong, He's wrong. It's a joke, like.
28:03
Speaker 2: I don't get it. For him to say I don't
28:05
Speaker 2: know what there is to fix means that he's still
28:08
Speaker 2: He either believes he did nothing wrong or I don't
28:12
Speaker 2: even know what the other option.
28:13
Speaker 3: Is now because he thinks he thinks it's he thinks
28:16
Speaker 3: the whole anti Melow thing in Denver is overdrawn. It's
28:20
Speaker 3: you know, he's not hated here, but I you know,
28:22
Speaker 3: I talked to him on the side. I said, no,
28:24
Speaker 3: you don't understand. I got a co host who's in
28:26
Speaker 3: that camp for crying out loud. You gotta ease into this.
28:31
Speaker 3: You gotta ease into this, and he's he's gotta He's
28:33
Speaker 3: got a team that he's working with to ease into it.
28:36
Speaker 4: Put it that way, Okay.
28:37
Speaker 2: I know I don't know as much about this town
28:39
Speaker 2: as you do, Vic, but the vibe that I get
28:42
Speaker 2: from this is nobody really cares about bringing Carmelo back
28:45
Speaker 2: in the fold.
28:45
Speaker 4: Well that's your vibe.
28:47
Speaker 3: There are a lot of Nuggets fans who grew up
28:48
Speaker 3: with Melo, a lot of Nuggets fans who were introduced
28:50
Speaker 3: to the to the Nuggets fandom through melow Vick I
28:54
Speaker 3: he he he raised a generation. It was ten years
28:58
Speaker 3: the Carmelo George Carliers. That was ten years of Nuggets basketball.
29:01
Speaker 3: You have to understand where they were before he arrived.
29:04
Speaker 4: Before he arrived, VI, I was here, it was I
29:07
Speaker 4: was here for many many years before that. I know,
29:09
Speaker 4: I understand exactly what you're saying. And I loved Carmelo
29:12
Speaker 4: Anthony I did. I love to watch him play the game.
29:16
Speaker 4: I loved melow Man. He was. He was everything I
29:18
Speaker 4: would hope for, Like this Nuggets team is back. He
29:21
Speaker 4: he did help save the franchise from the abyss. I agree,
29:25
Speaker 4: but he's done nothing but bad mouth and whine and
29:28
Speaker 4: bitch and mona. And by the way, he also, if
29:32
Speaker 4: I'm not mistaken, didn't he also say that he didn't
29:35
Speaker 4: want to leave, but they forced his hand because they're
29:39
Speaker 4: rebuilding or something like some crap like, which is a
29:41
Speaker 4: total lie, a complete fabrication. This guy, this guy can't
29:45
Speaker 4: tell the.
29:46
Speaker 2: Truth that just quickly. It's not about him leaving. It's
29:50
Speaker 2: about the stuff, like I think people could get over
29:53
Speaker 2: that eventually. It's about all the stuff that he did afterwards,
29:55
Speaker 2: in the way that he talks about Denver that bothers people,
29:58
Speaker 2: and I think that it showed it should and then
30:01
Speaker 2: he acts like like, here's my problem with it. He
30:04
Speaker 2: does not care about Denver. He cares about being liked,
30:10
Speaker 2: that's all.
30:10
Speaker 4: That's exactly right.
30:12
Speaker 2: He just cares that he wants people to praise him
30:16
Speaker 2: wherever he goes, and there's a place in this country
30:18
Speaker 2: that is like absolutely not, and that bothers him. It's
30:22
Speaker 2: not about the city, it's not about getting right here.
30:24
Speaker 2: It's about can I just can I have everybody love me?
30:28
Speaker 2: That's all he wants.
30:28
Speaker 4: How in the world did the Never Nuggets put his
30:31
Speaker 4: back against the Wall. How in the world did they
30:34
Speaker 4: ever did nothing wrong force any narrative or any trade
30:37
Speaker 4: narrative or any anything, the nugget anything his side, Every
30:41
Speaker 4: bit of it was from his side.
30:42
Speaker 3: Of course, it was I've said that, I've established that,
30:45
Speaker 3: and now it's time listen.
30:47
Speaker 4: I would say this, Vic, I'm gonna make this admission today,
30:55
Speaker 4: Josh TRUNKI is a bigger man than I am. Vick Lumbarr,
31:00
Speaker 4: he's a bigger man than I am. Oh, I know that,
31:02
Speaker 4: And some of you nuggets not stature wise, but I
31:05
Speaker 4: guess emotionally mature in this regard. Wise. Look, man, I
31:09
Speaker 4: I can't I don't see a reason to do it.
31:14
Speaker 4: And he's never ever even extended one ounce of an
31:18
Speaker 4: olive bridge. Well, then I work for NBC and you'll
31:21
Speaker 4: be back there doing a game. Put him in my position.
31:23
Speaker 3: Put him in that position sometimes, you know the old saying, Honey,
31:27
Speaker 3: it's a lot easier to get to somebody through.
31:29
Speaker 4: He just wants his love. He doesn't care about the
31:31
Speaker 4: team of the city.
31:32
Speaker 2: One last reminder, the keyword for this hour is Peter
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Speaker 2: So text that in the first and last name to
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Speaker 2: three h three five four nine two five oh by
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Speaker 2: the way.
31:39
Speaker 3: To shut up and listen.
31:41
Speaker 2: How's your way next?
31:41
Speaker 1: All right?
31:42
Speaker 2: Every day at this time, a little oh by the way,
31:44
Speaker 2: some stories from around sports entertainment whatever that. Uh, maybe
31:50
Speaker 2: you didn't hear about, but you should, you should.
31:52
Speaker 4: Mos was not here when you started.
31:54
Speaker 2: This, No, you know, so we'll start it off like this,
31:57
Speaker 2: like here's a story, Moses. I don't know if you
31:59
Speaker 2: guys are following. Over the weekend, Nick Castianos was let
32:03
Speaker 2: go from the Phillies with a whole bunch of money
32:05
Speaker 2: owed to him. And Nick Castianas has his own more
32:08
Speaker 2: where whatever he somebody's doing some sort of tribute to someone.
32:12
Speaker 2: He slams a home run and ruins the entire thing.
32:17
Speaker 2: But why did they let him go? Well, it was
32:19
Speaker 2: a fractured relationship within the locker room, both with players, coaches,
32:23
Speaker 2: and front office members, and it came to a head
32:26
Speaker 2: last year when he was pulled from the game and
32:30
Speaker 2: he decided he was going to walk in the dugout,
32:32
Speaker 2: take a beer and bring it back. Sat in the
32:36
Speaker 2: dugout with an open beer in his hand to show
32:38
Speaker 2: his displeasure of him being pulled from the game. And
32:43
Speaker 2: so now every every single meme about Nick Castiana's on
32:47
Speaker 2: the internet?
32:48
Speaker 4: Is him?
32:48
Speaker 2: Remember when Will Ferrell did that old Milwaukee commercial and
32:53
Speaker 2: he's in the middle of the field and he cracks.
32:54
Speaker 4: The beer up.
32:55
Speaker 2: I'm the super Bowl. Oh dude, you would love it.
32:58
Speaker 2: It was during a Super Bowl like five years ago.
33:01
Speaker 2: But it's just a picture of Wolf Harrell opening up
33:03
Speaker 2: a beer that says whenever Castianos gets pulled from the CA,
33:08
Speaker 2: I guess my question is if you've been yanked, why
33:15
Speaker 2: I guess you can't re enter? I mean as your
33:18
Speaker 2: day is done?
33:19
Speaker 4: Am I missing something here? No?
33:22
Speaker 2: It was that along with a whole but it was
33:24
Speaker 2: being openly insubordinate. What's the problem?
33:27
Speaker 3: And so I got by the way, go ahead, by
33:30
Speaker 3: the way one nothing Canada over check? You Celebrini this dude,
33:34
Speaker 3: he's gonna be a problem?
33:36
Speaker 4: Can you put? Well? Was there really any speculation? I
33:39
Speaker 4: guess maybe I'm making that up, but I heard some
33:41
Speaker 4: scuttle but before the team was announced, Hey man, should
33:45
Speaker 4: uh should Team Canada take the kids at all? Should they?
33:49
Speaker 4: Should they consider the kids of badar? They Celebrini whatever, Yes,
33:53
Speaker 4: kid's nineteen years of age. Dude, he's gonna be if
33:55
Speaker 4: Canada wins the gold. He very well could be the
33:58
Speaker 4: MVP of the entire tournament. He's I told you he's
34:02
Speaker 4: a great player when the Sharks were here.
34:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, he looks like a child. He is a child.
34:06
Speaker 4: It's fun. It's fun. Yeah, it's fun to watch him
34:09
Speaker 4: play the game of hockey. Man. That was it? Oh?
34:12
Speaker 4: That was it?
34:13
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just to just score it. It's one nothing
34:16
Speaker 3: I got.
34:16
Speaker 4: I got another one for you. I saw Michael Shiffer
34:18
Speaker 4: in just one gold. Right. Yeah. So this is Vick
34:20
Speaker 4: Lombardi's dream to be a slalom racer down the mountains
34:24
Speaker 4: in the snow. It is a lot of turning. Have
34:27
Speaker 4: you ever brought to you wear that a weird face mask?
34:29
Speaker 4: The old joke Seiseman face mask. Yeah, I don't. I
34:32
Speaker 4: don't ski anymore. I really enough time in the winter
34:35
Speaker 4: time to be honest with you. But when I was younger,
34:38
Speaker 4: I would, you know, I'd get shorter skis on and
34:41
Speaker 4: try to pretend I could slallom. Impossible, yeah, impossible.
34:46
Speaker 2: Tell you what the moguls are the one that looks
34:48
Speaker 2: like my knees would explode.
34:49
Speaker 4: But I think, what's what's so amazing about this is,
34:51
Speaker 4: I mean ski racing it's the one hundredth of a
34:54
Speaker 4: second difference, right, Yeah, I mean it's it's so close, right,
34:59
Speaker 4: She won by a second and a half over the
35:02
Speaker 4: silver medalist, biggest Olympic gold history. Yeah, it's in insane.
35:09
Speaker 2: Uh oh. By the way, Tiger said he might playing
35:11
Speaker 2: the Masters, He's leaving that door open. And I don't
35:16
Speaker 2: know if that's a cooler story or I know it's
35:18
Speaker 2: on the live tour, but Anthony Kim winning that tournament
35:21
Speaker 2: was pretty cool. If you guys don't know, he battled
35:24
Speaker 2: a whole bunch of addiction issues that took him out.
35:26
Speaker 2: He's actually got like he had to have surgeries. His
35:28
Speaker 2: face looks different than it did years ago because of it.
35:31
Speaker 4: But whoa, whoa, whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa, whoa whoa?
35:33
Speaker 4: What did he have to was he on? What did
35:35
Speaker 4: his face with him? To his face?
35:36
Speaker 2: My guess is something that you snort?
35:39
Speaker 4: So what did he do?
35:41
Speaker 2: I I don't know the full story of his opiate's
35:43
Speaker 2: or cooker.
35:45
Speaker 4: I don't.
35:45
Speaker 2: I don't know. That's what it looks like to me.
35:46
Speaker 2: I mean, I I saying this up front. I don't know,
35:50
Speaker 2: but I feel like that's part of it. Maybe I'm wrong.
35:52
Speaker 4: Yeah, he he's got a little collapse thing on the
35:54
Speaker 4: side of what I'm saying. Yeah. Yeah, So he comes.
35:57
Speaker 2: Back, he wins his live tour. I think he shot
35:59
Speaker 2: eight under the final day to jump John Rahman. I
36:01
Speaker 2: know it's the live but still it's a really cool
36:03
Speaker 2: story how he's battled back since then.
36:05
Speaker 4: You know what? And yeah, let me let me see
36:07
Speaker 4: this about Anthony Kim because people left him for dead.
36:11
Speaker 4: I mean, the guy's forty years old now, but people, honestly,
36:14
Speaker 4: when he when he had his problems VIC people left him.
36:16
Speaker 4: They're like, this guy's he's gone forever. Yeah, good for
36:20
Speaker 4: him to fight his way back and overcome those demons
36:22
Speaker 4: because he was a very popular player when he was
36:25
Speaker 4: a young guy.
36:25
Speaker 2: Who I said, all of it kind of changed when
36:27
Speaker 2: his kid was born and he had to get his
36:29
Speaker 2: life right. And now he's back playing at golf again.
36:32
Speaker 2: Oh by the way, when does curling end?
36:37
Speaker 4: Every day with the curling, how long is it last?
36:41
Speaker 3: I am so like God, I'm so glad you brought
36:44
Speaker 3: this up. Like we sat down the last couple of
36:47
Speaker 3: nights as a family.
36:48
Speaker 4: So let's watch some Olympics. Let's see what's on?
36:51
Speaker 3: And nine times out of ten when you flip on
36:54
Speaker 3: the television to watch Olympics.
36:57
Speaker 4: Enough with the.
36:58
Speaker 3: How many different curve throwing, how many just stop mixed
37:05
Speaker 3: it throw on the stones?
37:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, shut up, I mean it's quasic.
37:11
Speaker 4: It's all I need. It's so long.
37:16
Speaker 2: The only joy I took out of it is we
37:18
Speaker 2: found out the Canadians are cheaters.
37:21
Speaker 3: They're pushing off that they're pushing off on their stone
37:23
Speaker 3: and then they're pursing about it. But what you should
37:26
Speaker 3: do is watch to see you Canadians.
37:28
Speaker 2: Can somebody explain to me why that helps you. I
37:32
Speaker 2: would have thought that would have hurt because you have
37:34
Speaker 2: spin on it, and like what you're taking the spin off?
37:37
Speaker 2: What does it do?
37:38
Speaker 3: Probably the last minute you figured it's offline and you're
37:41
Speaker 3: just trying to reset the line.
37:42
Speaker 4: Who does?
37:42
Speaker 3: But I am so with you on enough with the curling.
37:48
Speaker 3: One day's all I need, one, not thirteen one.
37:53
Speaker 4: I I tend to agree with that. You watch some
37:56
Speaker 4: of the women's curling.
37:58
Speaker 2: They need to rest. I think most I think it's
37:59
Speaker 2: too higher time, Like you know.
38:01
Speaker 4: Between like Italy and Japan they're curling or whatever. Yeah,
38:05
Speaker 4: it's just a lot of shouting, even with I mean
38:08
Speaker 4: every screaming. We have doubles, we have quad, we have singles.
38:15
Speaker 2: We have explain to me how they can't get that
38:17
Speaker 2: done in the day. Just do a round robin and
38:19
Speaker 2: whoever comes out at the end comes out at the end.
38:21
Speaker 2: How does that not work?
38:21
Speaker 4: I still don't even know the damn rules. Oh, by
38:24
Speaker 4: the way, did you watch the doubles lose with any
38:28
Speaker 4: sort of different different view to the smile on my face?
38:31
Speaker 2: Yeah?
38:32
Speaker 4: Did you? Really? It's stupid.
38:35
Speaker 2: We're trying to get the color commentator for the loser
38:38
Speaker 2: at the Olympics on the show, by the way, to
38:39
Speaker 2: explain to us what the hell's going on with that sport.
38:41
Speaker 2: We're trying to so hopefully that'll happen the next couple
38:43
Speaker 2: of days. Just a couple more real quick. Oh, by
38:45
Speaker 2: the way, most congrats your Sex State Hornets are officially
38:49
Speaker 2: in the FBS. They're joining the MAC.
38:53
Speaker 4: I don't know what that's gonna do for them. I mean,
38:55
Speaker 4: I guess we'll figure it out, but can you I
38:57
Speaker 4: mean try to think of that though, I mean try
39:03
Speaker 4: to think of the Sex State Hornets going going.
39:06
Speaker 2: I was doing the math. I don't have it in
39:08
Speaker 2: front of.
39:08
Speaker 4: You, the FBS, but they're in the MAC.
39:10
Speaker 2: The amount of money they had to pay to join
39:12
Speaker 2: the MAC, they won't make that money back through the
39:14
Speaker 2: MAC TV deal for like twelve years. So stand for again,
39:19
Speaker 2: mid American American Conference.
39:21
Speaker 3: Yes, because Sacramento is in the middle of America.
39:24
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and and uh and Cow's in the Atlantic
39:29
Speaker 4: Okay yeah. In US season the Big Ten eat it VIC. Hey,
39:34
Speaker 4: by the way, don't you even remotely start to cast
39:36
Speaker 4: dispersions on my team. Of all the people in the world,
39:39
Speaker 4: I don't want to hear it from you. Okay, you're
39:41
Speaker 4: the last person to want to hear it from Bye.
39:45
Speaker 2: Oh, don't do this, No, no, no, why what's the problem.
39:47
Speaker 2: We aren't gearing up for another Notre Dame defense for
39:49
Speaker 2: another five minutes. Okay, you stop.
39:51
Speaker 3: But we're America's team. We don't need to count the whole.
39:54
Speaker 3: We represent America.
39:55
Speaker 4: Oh check, you just scored. Oh boy, the whole, the
40:00
Speaker 4: whole Sack state on the road at Akron in mid Mark.
40:05
Speaker 3: Stone's face and I immediately sorry.
40:09
Speaker 2: One more real quick. Oh, by the way, you remember
40:12
Speaker 2: when we played the audio of Jerome Tang He was
40:14
Speaker 2: then the head coach of Kansas State's basketball team, saying
40:18
Speaker 2: a lot of these guys don't deserve to wear the
40:20
Speaker 2: uniform and many of them won't next year. Kandas State
40:25
Speaker 2: went on to fire him over the weekend. They are
40:28
Speaker 2: trying to do it with cause because of those comments,
40:33
Speaker 2: saying that that was I don't know, in a word,
40:36
Speaker 2: unbecoming of a head coach and didn't represent the university correctly.
40:40
Speaker 2: They're trying to take his money away that he's owed
40:42
Speaker 2: on the contract for those comments. And I don't think
40:44
Speaker 2: there's any way you.
40:45
Speaker 4: Can win that.
40:46
Speaker 3: I don't know if you notice this, there is a
40:49
Speaker 3: there's a handful of coaches across the NCAA's that are
40:53
Speaker 3: crashing out right now. Yeah, not only got Leab, did
40:57
Speaker 3: she Mick cronin a CLA. They're a bunch like.
41:01
Speaker 2: Dude Fred Holberg's Nebraska's coaches smacked the phone out of
41:05
Speaker 2: somebody's hands.
41:06
Speaker 4: I know they're going crazy.
41:09
Speaker 3: I've never seen such violence from coaches before.
41:14
Speaker 2: They they are at their wits end with this. Say
41:19
Speaker 2: tell they're so over it.
41:22
Speaker 4: Last thing, I had multiple people over the weekend when
41:25
Speaker 4: it was announced that California State University Sacramento fighting hornets
41:30
Speaker 4: are going to go to the back. Multiple people sent
41:34
Speaker 4: me I guess memes are I don't know what they are, graphics,
41:39
Speaker 4: this kind of thing that they can't wait until ball
41:42
Speaker 4: State plays at Sax State. I get it. I get it.
41:49
Speaker 3: That's sort of like the Grady Dick Jersey swap.
41:55
Speaker 4: I'm like, I get to. I get the joke. I
41:58
Speaker 4: get the joke. Okay, you can stop sending me the
42:02
Speaker 4: ball State at Sack State football match.
42:06
Speaker 2: Did you watch that show MXC back in the day, well,
42:11
Speaker 2: Most Extreme Challenge. Yes, yes, sounds like team Ball and
42:15
Speaker 2: Team Sack. It sounds like something.
42:20
Speaker 4: Anyway. Yeah, it makes for a funny little graphic and anecdote.
42:24
Speaker 4: I appreciate that. We'll see when the match up how
42:26
Speaker 4: it looks.
42:27
Speaker 3: Hey, Rodney on the text sign is mad at you
42:29
Speaker 3: guys for spoiling He says, do you guys not know
42:31
Speaker 3: the phrase spoiler alert? Because you gave the score of
42:35
Speaker 3: Canada it's live.
42:37
Speaker 4: What do you mean to do? I want to? I
42:39
Speaker 4: want to.
42:39
Speaker 3: I want to make this case again for all of you,
42:41
Speaker 3: because I have good friends who are always Hey, I'm
42:44
Speaker 3: recording the game. Don't tell me.
42:46
Speaker 4: Yeah tough.
42:48
Speaker 3: We live in the information age. We live in the
42:50
Speaker 3: Twitter age. We live in the instant information age. I
42:53
Speaker 3: don't care what you're recording. I don't care what you
42:55
Speaker 3: want to watch tonight on Primetime. I don't care. If
42:59
Speaker 3: something happens it's going to be public information. It's not
43:02
Speaker 3: my job to secure your late night viewing pleasures.
43:07
Speaker 2: I don't care, Hey to tell you this. Ned Stark's
43:10
Speaker 2: head gets cut off, Okay, Hey, jaws gets blown up.
43:15
Speaker 2: If you haven't watched it, y'all wants her to watch that.
43:19
Speaker 4: Tenn what's her face doesn't let Jack on the door,
43:22
Speaker 4: and he drowns in the ocean. Rose whatever her name is.
43:27
Speaker 4: There's plenty of room for both of them, and you
43:30
Speaker 4: know it.
43:30
Speaker 2: Dan Assel's gonna join us at nine to twenty, Bill Handsley
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Speaker 2: at nine forty Stagram