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Yoreh De’ah 296:41-45. Kilei HaKerem: Halachic Walls That Separate Vines and Produce, Spacing 8 Vs 16, 12 and 4 Amos · SHULCHAN ARUCH YOMI: Own the Halacha in 25 minutes a day!

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  OK. We are Helkos Kilayam, Kiliya,
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  Karim. Good morning, Gresh Saadi, Evav.
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  OK, we're starting today reading inside with Mam Olive.
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  I just want to go back for a moment then just point something
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  out. There are a few differences in
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  when you have, when you're making a Karim, you're building
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  and planting your vineyard for the first time and if you
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  already had one and it was destroyed.
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  So there is a difference. For example, when we had the
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  Karim Shikharov, we we mentioned that Karim Shikharov is, let's
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  say, a field. They had a big vineyard, a big
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  field. Let's say it was the size of a
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  saya or vigor, for example, 50 by 50 Amos.
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  And then something happens to a lot of them.
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  I don't know. They die, they get uprooted,
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  they get trampled on, they're not there anymore.
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  So then in order for you still to have a halacha Karen, as
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  opposed to a single vine, right? The difference if you have to be
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  4th almost away or sixth, fuck them away.
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  So as long as you have, so we learned, as long as you have 5
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  or 6 depending on your configuration, as long as you
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  have, let's say 5 vines in the proper or six in the proper
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  configuration, then that constitutes a a Karen.
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  Now, how far apart does each vine need to be so that it's
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  still connected? So here the it's I think it's
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  clear from all the Farshim and postscheme it you it's as long
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  as it's within 16 Amos. That's a it's considered the
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  Shira Yunika. We had this as far as once you
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  have established Kalaiim, it could spread out an effect up to
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  16 Amos in all directions. So as long as you have 6,
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  they're each, you have that configuration of, you know, the
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  box with the Zenab that. So as long as you have those
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  five and you have that proper configuration and they're within
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  16 almost of each other. So then you can combine them to
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  create a Karen. Yeah, they have to be, in order
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  to connect them to be called a Karen, they need to be within 16
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  almost of each other. And then once you have 5 within
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  in that configuration that are within 16 almost of each other,
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  each one within 16 almost of each other, not the extreme,
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  then the entire Saya, as long as you have 10 in total becomes
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  that whole area. Now you treat as one giant
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  caram. But if you're planting like a
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  Heela, A Caram, a vineyard. So then they are only with only
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  if it's within 8 Amos are they considered close enough to be
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  counted together to join to create a Caram.
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  If and if you're, if you're going to make like a big row and
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  you, you know, as long as that when you're planting your
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  initial vineyard, as far as I understand, as long as they're
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  within 8 omelets of each other, then you keep connecting them as
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  soon as you have a break of eight omelets or more from the
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  last one. So then that's called a nucarum
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  and then whatever you can't, you don't connect them anymore.
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  Fine. And just real the kit, Sir, we
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  so we said Zanab is basically a square plus an extra 1 outside
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  of that square or rectangle somewhere in the middle like the
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  Zanab is in the middle. So someone to point out that
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  that's also Stein. I don't want to get bogged down.
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  Just Stein connected shallow shot is that's a square and then
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  that last one is in line with one of those Shuras.
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  So it's a six on the dye with running the dash at the corners.
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  OK, there you go OK, very good. So a six with one of the A6 on
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  the dye with one of the coordinates missing.
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  So fine, that's the real simple shot reading some actually they
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  read it the exact opposite is Zanav is the six without the
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  dot. And some point out that when it
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  says 2 connected 3 even in the Sholkhanark and the Rambam,
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  that's in La Mitet when you have lots of shuras, let's say three
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  or more and just like a much bigger vineyard.
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  So then a lot it seems to be a local emotion Musini.
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  So our shot reading is like the six and some explain that.
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  No, in this Lamatet, when it says 2 and three, that's also
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  referring to a Zanov, which is the four plus another one.
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  That last one is beyond the Zanov is beyond in the middle.
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  OK, let's let's continue with Mem Aleph Kate Zaduda Imehuva
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  note. How do you know if you have this
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  configuration? How do you know if it lines up?
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  So simple, maybe hoot Hamidah Omoter, muzo lizo.
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  You get a string and you pull it tight and you just see, or you
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  could take measuring, measuring tape, whatever.
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  As long as it's straight and it goes from one to another, you
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  that's real simple. And you see if they line up, OK,
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  if all of them line up to each other to make that proper square
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  or rectangle with the Zanov that we'll call it off to the middle
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  or whatever. Efishtheim, Kanagachalos,
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  whatever the case is, OK, Manbase, Karim, Shakarev Benzo.
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  Now you have a total vineyard, right?
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  The whole field, whatever your field is, that's your Karim.
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  And then you have a patch in the middle that they disappeared,
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  uprooted, they died, whatever it is, and they're not there.
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  Vinisha Shalim Mikko Sevivov But all around you have your
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  complete vineyard. It's just a patch right in the
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  middle. Let's say it doesn't have to be
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  exactly in the middle, but you have a patch somewhere within
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  your vineyard, but it's surrounded.
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  Emisha Karaka Shibemza sheshe Sriama.
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  So here as long so this karaka is is the from the expression of
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  bald. You don't have any any vine in
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  the middle. So then is if that space that
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  that is 16 Amos or less, if it has 16 Amos or less Hareze
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  Markik me ekre agafanium arba Amos a call ruach the zorea, the
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  MSA caraca. So you have this empty patch as
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  long as from edge to this patch is bigger than 16 Amos, I guess
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  you would call it diameter, whatever it is, whatever from
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  one edge to the from the inside, from one edge to the other edge
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  of the of the vines, you have at least 16 Amos.
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  Then you are allowed to grow and you produce right in the middle
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  as long as you are 4 Amos away from the from the vines that are
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  you're that you're next to. But if you don't have this 16
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  Amos, So then let's say you have 12.
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  You're not you're only going to have well, let's keep reading
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  Hareza Loya V Zerah lacham. So Madera Bannon, it's us or
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  it's a plant in that area because it had Hazal is Madera
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  Bannon is giving it that definition of one giant Karen,
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  right? It's all it all.
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  OK, fine. The IM Hevi Hoel finding gel
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  Karen. But if let's say there was only
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  12 in the middle and you and so you end up you make sure you
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  stay away 4 almost on each side away from the Karam because
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  that's Derisa, it turns it into Kilea Karam.
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  So in this middle, yeah, in my scenario of 12, you end up with
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  a patch of four in the middle, which is far, which is a four
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  away from each Karam. So this little area, since each
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  one is 4 away, so then you're allowed to eat it because
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  they're only an ulcer at La Caquila.
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  They were in Austria, the area. But hey, Malcolm, shiny Sharpano
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  Ebola Gofani in vain, sofa caramel vain.
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  I get there Shala luanicra mechola caram.
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  OK, so now they often had vineyards and around the
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  vineyard. I don't want to keep people
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  away. So they would build a fence, a
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  wall, a fence all around the vineyard.
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  That was standard how they would they would build it.
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  OK, so then I've seen that here too.
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  And there it's just all you have a vineyard.
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  And so they're gonna around their property.
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  They put a fence very normal. So the way they would often
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  build it, it was they wouldn't plant the the vines right up to
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  the wall, right or the fence. I don't know how they do it now,
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  but but they wouldn't plant it right up to the wall.
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  They would have a, a walkway area, a space now, typically, So
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  that's what a Mikhol hakaram is. Mikhola Karam, It's an
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  expression. It just means this empty, this
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  empty area. You know, like when you have a
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  frame, you get this empty area around the edge.
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  So all around the vines, the vineyard, you have this empty
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  area for walking or whatever it is where between that and vine
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  and the wall, the expression of Mikhol, two different pirushim,
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  either from the Lushan Mehila, you forgive.
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  And because people, I'm not sure the best way to put it that they
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  don't forgive land all around, but they set aside and don't
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  care about it. They're not mocked.
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  They that's that's where the expression comes from.
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  Yukilu forgive this area of land you're not going to use, you're
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  not going to plant. And they set it aside for
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  walking all around the vineyard. Another expression from Nichole
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  also means dancing by simchaz of a color in in Tanakh.
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  It's an expression of means to dance.
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  So when people dance, they dance in a circle all the way around,
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  and that's where the expression comes from.
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  The khola kharam, this area all the way around, OK, imesh boshte
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  mystery AMA mark megafani marble mas bizarre ET a shahar.
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  And so the Laka says, if you have a wall, then we're going to
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  give you this halafa sinister darabanon, Halafa darabanon of
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  mikhola kharam. So what does that mean if this
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  Mahal Hakaran, this space all the way around, the width of it
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  from the last vineyard vine or the vineyard to the wall is at
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  least 12 almost wide. That's how much space you have.
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  So then because I'll say, OK, you're a lot of plant in that
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  area as long as but you have to still be the four almost away
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  from the vine. That's mean they're right.
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  So you have to be 4 almost away as long as you have 12 Amos,
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  they let you plant in that air in that eight Amos exactly.
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  And the reason is where do they get come up with this 12 Amos
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  for because typically when you have this wall in this
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  situation, even if you're planting produce, you still want
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  to leave a walkway. You also, you bring your
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  Maharisha, your plow, whatever it is for typical plows, 4 Amas.
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  So this is how it works. You have 4 Amas away, MIDI
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  Araisa for the carom, right? Then another 4 Amas next to the
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  wall because that's you're still, you still want to have
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  that area to walk around. And then you have a Mako
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  makashuv, proper distinguished usable piece of land of four
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  Amas. And so that's how they come up
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  with 12 hai yubo pacos. But you're allowed to plant if
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  you want to within that entire 8, almost like you said, hai
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  yubo pacos mishte mestre amala yabi Zara lasham la khatila.
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  The dinder abanan is once. If you have less than 12, we say
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  it's usser. Just stay away from that area.
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  Just plant your produce on the other side of the wall or find
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  somewhere else on your property. Veem heavy.
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  But if you did it anyway, how over here almost raised a lucky
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  dish. If you did it at least all it
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  almost away from the vines then it's not us or Behana MIDI and
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  bidi bidi Avid even it's not in history Kilaim but medevarium.
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  I'm worrying what are we talking about?
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  The Karam gadol? That's if you have a big Karam.
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  Basically a Karam gadol is anytime you have 3 rows or more.
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  A Karam katan is if you only have 5 or the minimum
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  configuration of five or six. That's for sure.
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  A Karam katan, it's not exactly explained what's where does it
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  go from karamkatan to karamgadhal?
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  But maybe you need to have three minimum.
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  It's unclear. OK, Even though Shalkan says
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  it's not so clear, but OK, ABBA bikatan, if you have halaka
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  Karam, but it's a small 1, so a lo Mahal, it doesn't have this
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  halaka oven Mahal when if you get a Mahal, it's it's Lahomeran
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  because now yet you need at least 12 to plant anywhere over
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  there. Ellen Markik arba Amos nisofa
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  Gufani, if you only have a small Cairn.
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  So then the Allaha says you don't have to worry about
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  looking for 12. Even if you do have a proper
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  wall, which we're going to get to soon, even if you have a
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  thick wall, whatever it is, and it has a din of them.
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  Once you're even if you only have more than four Amos away,
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  you're allowed to grow in that area between the Karam and the
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  wall as long as you still stay away from that four Amos right
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  as Karam. Once it's a Karam ideraisa and
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  of course there are banana and you have to always be at least
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  Dalat Amos. So that's the that's that, that
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  that doesn't change. There's zarea and you can plant
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  all the way up to the defense. Mahane, we're going to see an
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  example in a moment, so I'll just wait.
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  I'll keep reading before I say the example.
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  McCain, Karam gadol, Shahaya being called shuraga, shurash,
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  Mona Amos. And so too, anytime you have a
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  Karam gadol, you have multiple shirot.
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  But then between every Shura you have 8 Amos or more than it is.
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  No Mahal. Well just suffice to say if you
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  don't have if you have two patches of a keram godal and
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  each patch is 8 almost away from each other, so then it's
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  considered 2 separate kramin and you don't have this issue.
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  Also, real simple, if every Shura is more than 8 almost
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  away, even though it would theoretically be considered a
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  keram godal because it's more than three rows, Halakhati still
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  has a or this halakhat. How far away?
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  That's called the Geffen. It's not called a Karen mandala
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  haya gader hamaki feta Karen. Now we mentioned that if you
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  have a wall around your vineyard, you might to get this
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  halacha kumra of Mikhola Karen, the sister darabana.
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  So there that you need to have at least 12 on the outskirts on
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  this space. So however, when does this
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  apply? You have to have a proper wall.
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  What's a proper wall for the halakhah of Mikhala Karam?
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  It needs to be at least 10 Fahim high, right?
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  Every wall in halakhah needs to be at least 10 to Fahim high OK
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  Oshahaya govo asarat Fahim the aim barocha arbat fahim in LO
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  Mikhal. Another requirement in order to
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  have this Mikhal Halaha Mikhala Karam that this wall, it's not
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  enough to be 10 fucking high. It needs the wall itself has to
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  be 4 fucking thick. OK, OK, we're going to see that
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  that's I don't want to get confused.
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  I just want to point out we're going to see it.
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  You could as long as you have a wall between your vegetation and
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  your produce and the caram. As long as you have a wall in
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  between, you are always allowed to plant on either side of the
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  wall. One side you have caram and one
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  side you have your wheat or your vegetables, whatever you want to
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  grow with 0 distance restriction and the wall could be a mashagu.
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  It doesn't matter how thin the wall is, even if it's, I don't
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  know, piece of paper. You have a but it has to be that
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  it's going to has to be strong enough that it's going to stand
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  the Ruach Mutsuya chain link fence.
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  A chain link fence. OK, Yeah, that's very strong.
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  OK, As long as and, and, and we're going to get to you.
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  It could be made out of lovehood.
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  As long as you can have space in between.
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  We're going to get into that. But it does need to be 10
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  fucking high, and the post can find out it has to at least be 3
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  or 4 fucking wide. Not thick, not thick.
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  It could be a mashu, could be a thin little pole.
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  But your wall, In other words, you can't put a stick in the
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  ground and call that a wall, obviously.
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  And you can't put two sticks next to each other.
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  Tafak apart. That's obviously there's.
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  Love it, but now it's only a tefah wide in my if you put two
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  sticks a tefah apart, that's not a wall in order to be called a
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  wall that you can now plant on both sides, right?
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  Even though it's 1 vine that's takes up a half a tefah and 1
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  wheat, that's also half a tefah. Whatever it is in a wall that
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  separates it. I must be not not thick, but
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  law. I don't know how you want to
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  read it wide a wall a minimum. So for a sukka wall has to be
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  Zine by Zine, right? Minimum size of a sukka, no
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  design by Zine. It also has to be 7, but we're
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  not going to get into it. We don't have a sort of pathak
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  by itself doesn't work for a sukka for an entire wall.
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  And using Lovewood, you still had with love together that
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  every single wall has to be 7, right?
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  There's a 2 + a tefa. We're not going to get into
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  that. But it always has to be 7 there
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  for a house, right? At minimum size of a house is
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  dollar, dollar almost generally speaking, for the halacha of
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  this a wall to separate, it's either 3 or 4 twachem.
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  That's a mochlokas. OK, let's get back here and
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  right the thickness is is is is a Marshall when it comes to
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  Mahal Hakaran in order to get this whole humra, because then
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  it's more of a hush of wall and then you want to have 4:00
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  almost on site for walking next to it and leaving it plain.
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  You're Mocha though that land and you set it aside.
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  You're not going to plant over there.
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  It's for walking. It's the you know, want to
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  damage the wall next to you. Whatever your explanation is,
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  that's the whatever wasn't because all had in mind That's
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  that's separate. OK, let's get back to where we
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  are Mem. Hey, get there Shu Gavoa asarat
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  Fahim. Fine, if the wall is tense
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  fucking high. Wait, I skipped that thing.
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  Let's go back to men dollar. Yeah, I get there.
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  I'm lucky with the care. I'm fucking assarat fucking if
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  the wall of a Mahal cams less than 10 fucking that's not a
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  wall next. Or if you had a wall that was
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  tense Fahim. But it it's so it's a halachic
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  wall. But if it's not for it's fucking
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  thick, then it's not a wall for the halacha of nakhola Karen
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  ella. So what happens?
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  So if I find him arba Amos with zoraya AAD amakiza arba Amos
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  rometza zoraya ET ketziya AMA. So if you don't have this
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  halachic wall that define that suffices for the definition for
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  creating a makhola carom, like you have a thin a normal fence,
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  your what was your chain chain fence?
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  So then you only have to be daledamus away when you want to
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  plant your wheat daledamus away from the last vine.
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  And that's all you have to go. And it doesn't matter.
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  And if you only left with another AMA, half an AMA,
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  whatever you're left with, you can plant in that little area
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  next to the your chain fence, because it's not a dent of
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  mahala Karam and fine mem. Hey, get her sugabua asarat
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  fucking any fence. You have a 10 fucking high the
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  thing. So that's enough.
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  And we're going to get into, yeah, we're going to get into
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  Surat at Petak in a moment and then we'll conclude.
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  But hey, Kharit Shu almok asarat fucking arbat arbat fahim.
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  Another form of a wall is you go down right?
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  Normal walls go up, but you can have a ditch in the ground step
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  where if that step where that ditch is as 10 fucking deep,
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  then that's then that also creates a wall.
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  But in order for a ditch see a wall stands alone by itself and
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  it's it's erect, so it could be as thin as a mushroom.
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  What for a Harris? So when you have that step or
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  that ditch, you have this wall that goes down below the ground.
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  That could also be a Mashi conceptually, but in order for a
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  Kharitz not to be just called AI don't know a scratch, a nothing
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  in the ground, whatever anyway, a dent in the ground, whatever
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  you want to call it. In order for a ditch to create a
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  wall, that ditch must be Fort fucking thick or away.
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  How short does it mean? No, no, no.
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  For what I mentioned before is the width of a wall has to be 3
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  or 4. Nothing to do with this.
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  This means your ditch has to, we'll call it, let's say it has
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  to be well, 10 deep and then it has to in order for it to be a
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  makkolm clash of to create a wall must be 4 by 4 must be at
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  least four in each direction, that's for sure.
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  OK. And then you can have a wall
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  created that way. I raised a Motorola Caran, but
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  Sido Mikan of the article, I mean Sido Mikan.
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  So up on top you can plant your vine and right next to it below,
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  right next to it, you don't have to separate anything except 4
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  and you still need to. No, you don't even need to
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  separate 6 talking because you have a wall.
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  So right next to it, down below, then you can plant in some
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  ditch. Yeah, you can.
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  No, that is in the ditch, in the ditches.
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  That's to the that's the wall. The wall going down the Filo
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  Mahitza shall Connie, this is important.
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  You can even have a wall made-up of thin little reeds in ANG Bin
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  Cana le Cabrero Schloche tsvakkam.
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  As long as you put a bunch of little poles or reeds right near
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  each other within 3 tsvakkam, you can have right more.
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  You can have more space than than the actual reeds or bamboos
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  or whatever you're doing as long as they're within 3 tsvakkam of
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  each other within Lovewood. You connect them all together.
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  And that can create a wall, right?
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  They just have to be able to stand the Ruach Mitsuya Harihan
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  Mabdelid Bain Hakarium, Vahayerik Kigede.
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  And then that creates a wall you can plant right next to each
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  other, one on each side, even if it's a 6th fucking important
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  Surata PETA. So the Gumaran Arrow Vineyard
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  Aleph says you can create a wall even with Surata PETA, even
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  though it's going to write each end, each side is going to be
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  more than three or four. It's fucking it starts a PETA
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  could be quite large and that's the and that's so that's that's
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  the Gemara is very clear no one there's no Mahloka on it
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  interested enough. The Rambam and the Chauhanarakh
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  do not mention it at all. So there is some discussion on
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  it Mahlokis and what the opinion is the Rambam if he didn't
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  mention it, does that mean he says it doesn't doesn't agree
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  with that Gemara or he just didn't mention it.
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  So it's a Mahlokis and how to understand the Rambam halakh,
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  but the the halakha, certainly most, I won't say oh, but
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  certainly most seem to say Sarah Tapeta works like Hadhila, just
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  like Tabshat kumara. And so too it's brought down in
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  the Arakashokhana, Lafa der Hamuna and Shamazam.