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- 0:01Welcome to Talking FACS, what you need to know about family,
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- 0:33I am your host, Mindy McCulley, Extension Specialist for Instructional Support
- 0:38with Family and Consumer Sciences Extension at the University of Kentucky.
- 0:42We are housed in the Martin-Gatton College of Agriculture, Food, and Environment.
- 0:48It's pretty common knowledge that overuse of opioids is a problem in Kentucky and nationwide.
- 0:54But today, my guest, Dr.
- 0:56Alex Elswick, our Extension Specialist for Substance Use Prevention and Recovery,
- 1:01is here to share with us about a non-opioid sedative called Xylazine that is
- 1:07being found in the drug supply in increasing numbers.
- 1:10Welcome, Alex. Welcome.
- 1:12Good morning, Mindy. And that's a tremendous amount of pronunciation.
- 1:15You have to do all at once from the introductions to the Martin-Gatton College
- 1:20to my title, all the way to Xylzzine, which I've now heard you pronounce correctly
- 1:25like a dozen times. And that's great because it's a hard one to say.
- 1:29Well, now I'm feeling a little bit tongue-tied.
- 1:32So we'll see if I can make it through the rest of the conversation.
- 1:36But let's start with what is Xylazine? Sure.
- 1:41So Xylazine is, you'll sometimes hear it referred to as trank or like trank dope.
- 1:47That's kind of the colloquial term for it. But Xylazine is a non-opioid sedative
- 1:53that actually was never intended for human consumption.
- 1:58It's right, as some drugs are, it's primarily used in veterinary medicine to
- 2:04help to date and calm and even provide a little pain relief to animals for diagnostic
- 2:10procedures and surgeries and what have you.
- 2:12So not intended for human consumption, but it's increasingly being found in
- 2:16our drug supply in the US and in Kentucky.
- 2:19Okay. So how does it affect that a human when it is ingested?
- 2:25Because I'm guessing that it's probably given to an animal by syringe.
- 2:32Yeah. And given to big animals too, right? I mean, not little animals,
- 2:36big of cattle and horses.
- 2:38So yeah, it's a great question. So it's a powerful sedative, but it's a non-opioid.
- 2:45So we've been hearing a lot about opioid overdoses, things like prescription
- 2:49medication, heroin, fentanyl.
- 2:51It's not an opioid like that, but it does give a sedative effect.
- 2:55What's interesting about it
- 2:56is it's not in the drug supply because people who use drugs want it there.
- 3:02And that's what makes this in some ways kind of different from some of the other drug trends.
- 3:06Xylazine is really only being put into the drug supply by people who sell drugs
- 3:11as a way to increase profit.
- 3:13It'll increase kind of the net weight of a product, which will increase its
- 3:17value. And also because it gives a sedative effect, it kind of gives users the
- 3:22perception of a stronger drug.
- 3:25If they think it's fentanyl, it may be thinking it's stronger than it is.
- 3:29And so that might also increase its value. But that's what makes it a little
- 3:33bit of a kind of a curious trend because it's really only drug sellers who are
- 3:37forcing it into the drug supply.
- 3:39Okay. So it seems to me that that's doubly problematic then.
- 3:45Yes, for a number of reasons.
- 3:48But one of the primary reasons is because fentanyl is most often contaminated
- 3:54with Xylazine, meaning that people don't know that they're taking Xylazine.
- 3:58It's giving them different effects and a different profile of risk, really. Sure.
- 4:02I can see that. So how common is it? Are we seeing it a lot in Kentucky or?
- 4:08Unfortunately, yes. We're seeing explosive growth across the United States,
- 4:13across the Midwest, across the South.
- 4:15It's only recently that our Office of Drug Control Policy began accounting for
- 4:20Xylazine as a part of fatal overdoses, as a part of our surveillance.
- 4:25So we don't have really good, rich data on that.
- 4:28In doing some research for this, I found an interesting approach that we've
- 4:32used is a wastewater analysis. Have you ever heard of this as a public health measure?
- 4:38No. So tell me more. Yeah, it's really interesting.
- 4:42It's actually not uncommon. It's been used to address a variety of different
- 4:46concerns, and not just environmental concerns, but public health trends in different conditions.
- 4:52So what these researchers did is analyze wastewater in different parts of Kentucky
- 4:58for the presence of Xylazine. and they found 63% of the samples that they tested had Xylazine present.
- 5:05And so that doesn't give you very specific information. You don't know exactly
- 5:09who, but what you know is that that means that people are consuming Xylazine
- 5:14and then it's going into the wastewater supply.
- 5:17It means it's here in Kentucky. So it's an interesting way of saying,
- 5:20even though it's not reflected in the overdose data, we know that it's here.
- 5:24Okay. So let me play devil's advocate here just for a second,
- 5:28because if it is used for veterinary use, could it not also be reflected in
- 5:35the wastewater because the animals are excreting it as well?
- 5:40I'm going to be totally honest with you, Mindy. That's a brilliant question,
- 5:43and it's not one that I considered.
- 5:45Once you started asking it, it's like obviously a very important confound.
- 5:49I would have to look back at the study to see how they tried to account for
- 5:53that. It's a really interesting question.
- 5:56But I would just say generally, because wastewater analysis is not an uncommon
- 6:01approach to epidemiology and public health metrics, my guess is that they accounted
- 6:06for that. Yeah, I would think so too.
- 6:08To control for it. And I'm guessing
- 6:09that they could look at just the human wastewater as opposed to the...
- 6:15Like not to get carried away on a whole thing, but you know,
- 6:18back in the day, we used to use wastewater analysis even to determine like TV viewership. Sure.
- 6:25Right? Because like during the commercial breaks for I Love Lucy,
- 6:28you get an analysis of how many people are watching based on how many people
- 6:32are flushing the toilet.
- 6:33So it's interesting to think about, but... Yeah. Okay. I'm talking about dilazine.
- 6:36Sorry. I digress. That's right. Okay.
- 6:38So why should we be concerned about Xylazine? Is this affecting the opioid overdose?
- 6:45Yes. I think the bottom line is that Xylazine is complicating a pre-existing overdose crisis.
- 6:53So you kind of have to remember that the context for the emergence of Xylazine
- 6:56is we've already had a prescription opioid epidemic, and that was the first wave.
- 7:02And then we had a heroin epidemic, and that was the second wave.
- 7:05And then we're in the midst of the deadliest of the three, a fentanyl wave.
- 7:09And now this fentanyl that's being contaminated with Xylazine,
- 7:13the reason it really complicates things is because, so we lost 100,000 people
- 7:17last year to fatal overdose.
- 7:19And Naloxone is the best weapon that we have to fight against fatal overdose.
- 7:25And Naloxone is the medication that temporarily reverses an opioid overdose,
- 7:29but it only works on opioids.
- 7:31So the reason this is so complicated is because if someone has used fentanyl
- 7:36that's mixed with Xylazine and you administer Naloxone to reverse that overdose.
- 7:41The Naloxone will still be effective at reversing the opioid overdose.
- 7:46So it will help the person begin breathing again, but they may not regain consciousness
- 7:52the way they normally would if they didn't have Xylazine present.
- 7:56So it's making it harder to identify overdoses. It's making it harder to respond
- 8:01to overdoses and possibly making overdoses just more deadly.
- 8:05So there's a variety of reasons to be concerned, but I think to put a bow on
- 8:09that, the most important thing for people to remember is there are no known
- 8:13side effects to administering Naloxone.
- 8:17You have a good Samaritan law that protects you if you administer it in good faith.
- 8:21So if you think that someone, if you have any reason to believe that you've
- 8:25come upon someone who is having an opioid overdose, whether you think Xylazine
- 8:30is present or not, don't let that complicate it too much.
- 8:32Always administer Naloxone. Always call 911 and get help. Okay. And...
- 8:39The person might not know if there's Xylazine present or not, right?
- 8:44That's right. And it's not like you can ask them because the person responding
- 8:48to the overdose doesn't know. The person who's overdosed probably doesn't know.
- 8:51And to be honest with you, the person who sold it to him may not know either
- 8:55because it may have been further on down the line.
- 8:58That's exactly right. That's exactly right. Okay.
- 9:01At a broad scale, what this is, is there's this phenomenon called the Iron Law
- 9:06of Prohibition. and the iron law of prohibition says that when we make something
- 9:10illegal, when we prohibit it and we drive it underground, it becomes a lot more unsafe.
- 9:15Sure. You can think of abortion as an example of that.
- 9:18You make abortion illegal, people don't necessarily stop having abortions,
- 9:22but they have to do it in a much more unsafe way.
- 9:24And so the same thing happens with drug use. And you're seeing this where in
- 9:29the illicit drug market, all these contaminants are being included,
- 9:33fentanyl derivatives and now Xylazine.
- 9:35And so it speaks to the need for us to really get a handle on this thing. Definitely.
- 9:39Alex, thanks so much for taking the time to share with us about this drug that
- 9:43I didn't know anything about.
- 9:45And I'm sure that a lot of our listeners knew nothing about it as well.
- 9:48Yeah. Thank you for highlighting an important and concerning trend.
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