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Radio Ranch with Roger Sayles 052926 LIVE, - Jacob, Esau, and the Law: Covenants, Conflict, and the Christian Idea of Justice · Global Voice Radio Network's tracks

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  Unknown: Well, good morning.
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  Cowboys, cowgirls, ranch hands, how you doing on this Friday morning here at Radio Ranch? Right on your dial again,
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  Roger Sales, and I think my cohost has actually arrived. Mister Brent Winters,
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  tying up his horse outside right at the moment.
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  So here we are on the May
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  and I did introduce that's for Tom D. By the way, we did date stamp it, and I think I introduced Brent already. I think I told you it's the radio ranch and that it's the twenty ninth.
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  Last full weekend of the month or something when they
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  oh, man, we got some things to talk about. Would you go ahead, mister Paul, please? Yes. We've got some fun things to talk about.
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  Unknown: You're gonna have to explain to me and Brent too because he's about as as I am on all this stuff. What is this Discord thingy?
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  Unknown: Well, Discord is it's kind of like a social media platform
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  You can communicate,
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  with by voice and video.
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  It's kinda like a Zoom, but it but it does more than that.
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  It has additional audio channels.
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  It has the ability to stream directly from it to,
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  to, stream a live thing. It's like Zoom,
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  but Okay. It's got more goodies.
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  Unknown: Okay. So So it's like Avis for
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  the Zoom world. Right? Yeah. Something like that. Okay. Yeah. Alright. Good morning. Morning, Brent. Morning,
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  Hi, Roger. Everybody. How are you doing, man? You're loud and strong there.
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  Oh, I am. Yeah. Good. I got a couple of things I wanna mention before we get started if that's alright. Boy, I wish I would have thought ahead of time I would have sent Paul
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  this little clip I heard yesterday from John f Kennedy
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  to start the show. Harrison started his show with me yesterday. It's pretty cool. He's talking to a group of people, and he's telling a story about Marx, Karl Marx.
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  Uh-huh. And he said, well, when he was a young writer, he went to this newspaper. He's in The US and asked him for a raise because they were only paying him $5
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  per submission,
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  and they turned him down.
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  And and so Kennedy got on. He said, if that capitalist
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  newspaper,
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  would have given him a raise, we probably wouldn't have communism.
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  Uh-huh.
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  So I thought that was pretty cute.
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  Secondly,
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  let's see. I, watched yesterday. I know you pay attention to Tucker, don't you, a little bit, Brent? Uh-huh. Have you seen the latest one that he posted yesterday with this doctor, British doctor, that, has done numerous trips to Gaza?
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  Unknown: Have you seen that yet? I'd haven't. No. I saw it before, but I didn't. I didn't Well,
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  Unknown: listen. It's excellent. Okay? Uh-huh. And if you really wanna know the tenor and volume of what's going on over there, listen to this guy. Of course, we already kinda know.
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  But he was just so calm.
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  I don't remember what his name was. He was very calm and talking about all these deaths and
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  where
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  and all the serious operations he had and the situations. It just break your heart. Okay? Mhmm. And so I would encourage everyone to go, and I wish I could remember his name as the latest, Tucker
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  upload.
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  A good one. Boy, I'll tell you what. These people are so heinous. They're just so heinous.
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  Mhmm. And one story. I'll just give it to you. So the
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  that stuck in my mind that IDF came and raided some hospital.
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  Mhmm. Of course, he gets all these stories because he knows all those doctors down there. You know? Oh, mhmm. What is that? What is? No. No. Okay.
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  Well, they IDF, a rageous hospital, the people that are taking care of the hospital, they let them go. They didn't kill them for some reason. And, they said on the way out, there's eight babies
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  incubators in there, and they said, okay. Don't worry. We'll take care of them. When they got back in there weeks later, the babies were still in the incubators
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  decaying.
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  Mhmm. Okay. I mean, these people are just heinous.
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  Unknown: Mhmm. Mhmm. So now what was your question a minute ago? No. I I was gonna say what what
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  there has to be, it doesn't have to be, but probably is a reason
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  that
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  state of Israel
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  uses to
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  Unknown: excuse of some kind to justify what they're doing. They do? Yeah. And what is it? Same things they use on us that we're animals, and they're better than us. We don't have a soul. They are the only ones with a soul, don't you know? Yeah. Okay. And I'll tell you this story, Brandon. I can tell you this story for secondhand
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  information. Early
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  on in this shooting match, I had a very influential
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  couple. The the wife was the one that tuned in. She's a gentile. He's a Jew.
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  He's one of the most powerful Jews in Hollywood.
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  K? Mhmm. I'm sure he's retired now. I wouldn't dare mention his name. He's a very nice guy. K. I met them personally. Spent a week with them. They came down looking for a place to retire in Argentina. So I got to spend a week with them, incredibly nice people.
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  And, she told me that he told her this is where this came from. He was born in probably Skokie, Illinois up there. His father was a doctor. Mhmm. And, they sent him to Khalil School. That's the school at the synagogue.
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  Mhmm. Six years old. He goes in there, and the rabbi's up there going, you're better than everybody else. You're better than everybody else. Mhmm. And it turned him and affected him so much at that age that he's been an atheist all his life. Turned around and walked out. K? Uh-huh. But that's what they teach him. You're better than everybody else. We're the only ones with souls, etcetera, etcetera. That's where they and, of course, if you're ever going to try and
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  annihilate a a people, a genocide, you gotta demonize them first.
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  I mean, they're still doing that today.
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  Mhmm. So, anyway, that's
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  and, of course, I've studied these people for many decades. K? Mhmm. So that doctor thing was I and I encourage all of you to watch it. It's a lot of it's sickening, but if you really wanna get the first rate, this is the kind of stuff.
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  I don't know how many viewers Tucker's got. Mhmm. But he's got a bunch.
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  Oh, no. It's huge. 50 plus million. Easy. Okay? Yeah. Are gonna see this, and they're gonna see the real story of what comes out of there and who these heinous bastards are. Mhmm. K? So good good on you, Tucker. Keep going. Go after them. I will help you. I'll I'll cover your flank. Tucker, I'll cover your flank. Okay?
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  Unknown: There's two there's two two
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  religions that are involved here,
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  and they're both trying to destroy each other.
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  And to say that war is anything but a religious struggle is
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  silly beyond silly. Yes, that's right. And people and so what they're doing is or they had a religion, their religious point of view,
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  right or wrong, it's a religious point of view and that's what drives them to kill other people and that's what drives Islam to kill other people.
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  Their religion demands it as
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  Van Till says,
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  Culture is religion externalized
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  and we deny it, we ignore it, we don't talk about it but that's what it is. And so you got two religions over there that worship demons that are trying to kill each other.
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  Understand. I look at it first that I
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  say I've got to analyze
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  Unknown: this on that basis first. Go ahead. Yeah. Okay. Go ahead. I think that's a little misguided. Those are the people in gods aren't demons. They're women and children, and this doctor actually
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  got one out, got a young girl out. He helps them teach medicine down there and stuff and
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  brought her back to England, and she can't go back. And he's
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  brought her into the family. You know? Anyway, they have other Palestinians stay up there. It's a total different story from this guy. These ain't Germans. They're very nice people.
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  The fact
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  Unknown: Don't go any further because it leaves a wrong impression.
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  I didn't say they're demons, I said they follow doctrines of demons.
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  They
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  are men and women
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  and according to our religion,
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  our cultural religion and there are Christian folk here, but we live in a Christian culture,
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  God, our lawgiver
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  forbids us to murder women and children.
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  Yes. Now they
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  and so they
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  go to the bible and they say the Amalekites,
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  Unknown: these are Amalekites and God has commanded us to annihilate them, men, women, and children. Yes. But but before I could I'd like to talk about that, but you were on a a role. And you Well, I was, and I wanted to cover this, and we can dart back to this. I've got another subject that may be a little more pressing. I don't know if this is serious.
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  You know, when I was in Argentina, one of the things that I experienced down there was the Argentine economy,
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  and it's it's something to behold, okay, when they were on the Argentine peso of their own, and they could print it and do whatever they wanted to do with it.
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  And the quality of the currency that fluctuates down there is pitiful.
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  Right? Some of the bills that circulate is kinda ripped and hold and dirty and taped together and all this other stuff, and you go, somebody would actually circulate this? I mean, it's bad. Okay?
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  And so when I really started getting the idea,
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  part of the seeds that were planted to say, you might be you might think about ambling on.
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  Yeah. And the first thing that they did,
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  if I remember right,
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  was they announced thousand dollar peso notes.
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  And then a little while after that, they announced 10,000
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  peso notes. Wow. Well, you don't have to be much of a tea leaf reader to realize what's coming. Mhmm. Mhmm. And the same thing in The United States. You might not have heard, probably haven't.
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  Mhmm. But it's proposed, quote, unquote, proposed
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  that we're gonna be issuing a new 250
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  bill with mister Trump's picture on it.
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  Mhmm. Mhmm. So they're saying, I just heard Doug McGregor. I was listening to his interview right before he went on the air.
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  Inflation's gone up from 2.8 to 3.8, and it's expected in a few short months to be up to six.
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  Mhmm. Mhmm. So y'all strap yourself in. K? I will tell you
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  what happened with the American embassy in Germany
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  back during the Weimar Republic in the twenties.
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  Mhmm. And they sent out of course, when you're in a foreign country, they want you to register with the, embassy so they can get your messages like this. Mhmm.
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  And, the embassy
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  sent out a message to all the Americans that said,
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  buy
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  things.
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  Mhmm.
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  Buy things. That's all it said. Mhmm.
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  Get ready, folks. It's coming.
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  Unknown: Yeah. It's good to
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  extricate oneself as much as possible
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  to have a finger in the system
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  so that you
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  as the bible says by the way, what I said a while ago is what the bible says. That's not what I say. I'm talking about the Amalekites, but I wanted to circle back to that one time. It was the Amalekites or the Amalekites? Amalekites. Amalekites.
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  Amalek, they were the descendants of Amalek. Okay. Amalek is the grandson
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  Unknown: of Esau. Uh-huh. Well And you remember Esau. Go ahead. Yeah. Of course. So, you know, Paul English and I have both arrived at the same conclusion on this that these people are Nephilim. They're the remnants of the Nephilim.
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  Mhmm. And, that they're we both think they're Amalek, that they're accusing everybody else of. Well, that Well,
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  Unknown: there's good reason for that because by the time remember
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  Jacob and Esau
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  and they were in the womb together, unidentical
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  male twins,
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  And the
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  mother was,
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  of course, all upset because she felt like
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  the boys were in her belly
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  in her belly fighting.
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  Unknown: Hold
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  on just a second. We're fighting here on the air. Could somebody who ever got a mute up and moving stuff around or making a lot of noise and distracting from the program, please? Star six, it would be appropriate and appreciated.
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  Unknown: Go ahead, Brent. Yeah. Yeah. And that
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  was Isaac's boys
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  and
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  Rebecca, the mother,
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  and the boys were fighting and God made it clear to her that the two nations were in her womb.
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  And indeed that's what happened. Course Jacob,
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  Yaakov,
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  the word means clutcher
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  and Esau
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  fundamentally
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  means clutched.
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  Clutch that means grab. You can say grabber and grabbed
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  because Esau
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  emerged
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  first, the firstborn
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  and then
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  Jacob
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  emerged
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  hanging on to his heel with his hand.
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  And for the rest of Jacob's life he was a scratcher, a clutcher
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  and a chiseler
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  and he was constantly trying to scratch his way into what he wanted.
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  And the fascinating thing about it is of course that
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  God had chosen Jacob by sovereign
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  election
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  to carry the blessing and to give him what he wanted to give him. But of course Jacob
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  like like a Christian folk now, they think they got to do it themselves.
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  And so he was constantly miserable,
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  constantly scratching, clutching, grabbing,
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  trying to knock the other fell out of the way
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  and that was unnecessary
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  but God always gets what he wants out of his elect
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  and of course the Bible says in the Old Testament,
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  God said Jacob I have loved,
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  Esau I have hated.
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  Paul the Apostle repeats it in the New Testament.
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  Unknown: Same thing and makes it important. Romans nine eleven.
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  Unknown: Yeah, Romans all there. Yeah and
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  Jacob and Esau of course got into an awful mess because then later, and this is another salient point in the flow of the narrative,
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  I'd like to if I could Roger,
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  take this all the way to Jesus Christ and the gospel record because by
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  the time we get there,
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  an Edomite,
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  a descendant
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  of Esau
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  is sitting on the throne of Israel
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  because he wanted to be a Jew so bad
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  and his name was Herod.
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  That's
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  the culmination of the Edomite story
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  and the Edomites,
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  Edom, that's Esau.
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  Esau
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  is Edom and when Esau was born
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  he was all red,
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  not brown,
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  red.
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  I mean red like Adam because the word
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  Edom,
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  they got to call him Edom later and I'll explain that or what I understand from the Bible about it.
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  They his name was called Edom which is the exact same word
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  as Adam.
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  Adam and Edom are the exact same word
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  pronounced differently
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  in our English tongue so we can draw the distinction between the two personalities.
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  You see Edom,
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  Esau originally his name was Esau, which also means red
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  and he was born red and hairy.
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  A lot of children born with hair on their backs. I've seen this.
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  Unknown: And then the hair yeah. The hair falls off later. What's that? I I heard that, but to tell the difference after they were born,
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  that they tied a red string around Edom's ankle. Have you is that biblical?
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  Unknown: No. That was a that was another couple, another set of twins in the bible.
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  Oh. And you can read about that in Genesis also. And, yeah, that really happened because the midwife,
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  one of them stuck his hand out first and she said, that one's gonna that's the firstborn,
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  you know, and then then the hand went back in. Yeah. That way she'd know who stuck the hand out first. But Oh.
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  It's kinda odd, you know, and I don't not an expert on the subject, but I've delivered a few babies
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  out of desperation.
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  The midwife didn't get there on time because of weather and also
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  other
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  reasons why I was working in the
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  mines, I was far away and where I started having children.
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  But I can't imagine a baby coming out through the uterus,
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  crowning, I usually crown about 10 centimeters with the head first
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  unless they're breached,
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  crowning,
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  and then going back in sticking then a baby sticking his hand out and then going back in another one coming out. But now you and I'm easy to get off the subject. I need to get back on the EASL. But That's
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  Unknown: interesting right there, but go ahead Esau,
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  Unknown: he's the firstborn and his name and later on the boys were growing and Jacob, the
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  grabber, the clutcher, the chiseler,
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  the elect of God,
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  that ought to give everybody hope, was a pantywaist.
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  I don't know how else to say it in American English, he was a pantywaist.
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  He hung around with his mother in the tent, he liked to learn how to cook and all that and Esau was a man's man and he liked to go hunting.
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  He went out in the field, he hunted and Esau hung around with him, even a mama's boy.
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  So
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  their father who was
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  Yitzhak,
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  his name is onomatopoeia,
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  that means it's a word,
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  then his name imitates
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  something in nature
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  like the knock of the door, the buzz of the bee, the hiss of the snake,
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  the scream of the hoot owl, you know stuff like that.
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  Well his name, Yitzhak, was the way the Semitic
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  people
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  imitate, that's the Arabs and later the Israelites.
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  There were no Israelites
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  when
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  Jacob and Esau's father were born, his name was Isaac,
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  but they didn't say it that way, they said Yitzhak,
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  Yitzhak,
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  and that's the way they would imitate the sound of laughter.
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  Yitzhak,
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  Yitzhak like that. So his name was Laughter because his mother laughed.
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  God said, you're going to have a baby at about a 100 years old and he mocked and laughed and so God said just to remind you,
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  you're going to call that boy laughter, just to remind you that you mocked
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  God,
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  which shouldn't be done. Coming back,
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  we're all sinners
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  and the Bible's a record of that and
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  Esau
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  was his first name, he came out red like
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  Adam.
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  People
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  say using Strong's Concordance that Adam means to blush in the face.
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  It can mean that but that's not the fundamental meaning. The fundamental meaning is just red and the reason it was red is because God
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  made our grandpa Adam out of red clay,
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  not blue clay. We got a lot of blue clay around where I'm from.
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  Down in Georgia, they got a lot of red clay because they are got
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  Unknown: a lot of white clay too called kaolin.
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  Well. Made a bunch of them farmers down there very wealthy.
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  Kalin
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  is the the the kinda white clay that they'll put in paint.
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  Uh-huh. They use it a lot industrially
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  in these farms. They had a streak of kalin going through Georgia.
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  Mhmm. I don't know how many miles wide or deep, but, boy it made a bunch of them farmers down there rich. Can tell you that. Who it was it sang that song? I'll never forget the day
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  that bright red Georgia clay started Oh yeah. Well they got that too.
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  Unknown: Well they got that but where I'm from there's blue clay which is a shale clay but the red clay has iron in it. Iron,
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  ferrous.
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  Ferrous material they call it and
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  it's significant biblically because
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  the theme red
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  and the red clay and Adam is red clay and then Edom and then we get to the in the book of Daniel
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  to the feet
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  of this
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  of the idol of the 90 foot tall idol of
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  Well that
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  was the idol made of gold but then the idol in the prophecy
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  had feet of clay and iron.
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  Iron ferrous material
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  is
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  a heavier material. I like to tell people in geology there's only two kinds of rocks.
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  Make it simple, there's just two kinds.
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  They're dark colored rocks and light colored rocks.
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  It's true and when I
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  learned this from an old guy when I was
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  out in the gold fields, said Brent, there's only two kinds of rocks and once you know the difference and you see all of geology that way, you'll be able to know where the gold is going to be
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  or you'll be able to better predict it but dark rocks have more ferrous material in them, more iron and the light rocks have more SiO2,
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  silica.
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  They're like quartz, quartz is SiO2 and quartz come together sometimes
• 25:40
  but just notice the difference because if you see a lot of
• 25:44
  redness
• 25:46
  and red and dark color, more darker color rocks with quartz,
• 25:50
  you're in a mineralized area where there could be precious metals, copper, silver, gold,
• 25:56
  platinum, etc. Well
• 25:58
  coming back to Esau and Jacob, now I don't want to get off because we only got so much time.
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  Then
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  they grow up
• 26:08
  and
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  remember Jacob is a kind of a pantywaist,
• 26:13
  he's with his mama all the time learning how to cook and he likes to stay in the tents, that's the way the bible puts it. He likes to stay in tents and his brother likes to go out and go hunting.
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  Isaac, their father, is old by this time. The boys are grown, probably upwards 40 years old or something, I don't know but
• 26:33
  he's blind, he can't see much, his eyes are so weak and he says
• 26:38
  Esau, I want you to go out and bring in some of that venison
• 26:42
  that I like, that red,
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  red
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  stew.
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  So he
• 26:51
  okay, dad. And he goes out and bags a deer, brings it back, guts it,
• 26:56
  skins it out and all that and dresses it. Manly things.
• 27:01
  Yeah. Things.
• 27:03
  Yeah. Gets ready to make that stew.
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  Well, before that, he had brought
• 27:09
  he'd been out hunting. This is I'm backing up now. He'd been out hunting. I mean, Esau because that's what he liked to do. And his brother was in the tents with his mama
• 27:19
  cooking.
• 27:22
  He comes in from the field hunting and he said I'm about to starve, I'm so hungry, I can't see straight.
• 27:28
  He says to Jacob, give me some of that. Here's what the Hebrew text says, I just looked at it the other day. I mean it shouts.
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  It's with the definite article twice.
• 27:38
  He says give me some of that
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  Adam
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  Adam
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  is red
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  and is
• 27:49
  a definite article.
• 27:51
  He was being very definite, he wanted that red soup.
• 27:55
  Not just red red but red
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  soup,
• 27:59
  that's what he wanted and Jacob said well what are gonna give me for
• 28:03
  Jacob's a scratcher, he's a chiseler.
• 28:06
  He's always trying to get on top of people and get something more out of them than they get out of him. That's all he thinks about and when you read the story of his life it just
• 28:16
  shouts at you. The personalities
• 28:18
  of the bible are colorful for real, but he said, what are gonna give me? He said, give me your birthright.
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  You're the firstborn,
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  I'm the twin, I'm only five,
• 28:28
  ten, twenty minutes younger than you so just go ahead and give it to me and I'll give you this red soup.
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  A big bowl of it. Porridge is the old word.
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  He said I'm some blasted hungry, I don't care. I'll take the soup.
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  Now people say that Jacob
• 28:45
  cheated him out of his birthright but I don't see it there.
• 28:49
  He made a swap.
• 28:51
  He wanted that soup and he wanted the birthright and he swapped.
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  A Was
• 28:56
  lopsided deal? Without question it was a lopsided deal.
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  As
• 29:01
  they say at common law,
• 29:03
  if you trade for a peppercorn and that's what you want, that's what you want.
• 29:08
  This whole thing about fair market value
• 29:11
  Yeah. Doesn't go as far as people say it ought to. It doesn't. Right?
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  Unknown: I say both of those both those sides were voluntary.
• 29:19
  Unknown: That's the point. Yeah. That's the point.
• 29:22
  It he did
• 29:23
  It wasn't a fair trade. Here what Jacob did,
• 29:27
  Yaakov,
• 29:28
  I mean the panty ways, he took advantage of
• 29:32
  a man who felt a little bit desperate.
• 29:35
  He said I'm gonna collapse. I don't know if he was going to or not. For whatever reason
• 29:40
  he took advantage of his desperation and his lack of attention and not caring.
• 29:46
  That's what he did.
• 29:48
  Here's another fascinating
• 29:52
  point. Just because a man trades his birthright for a bowl of porridge,
• 29:59
  does the law allow that?
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  See that's the other question.
• 30:03
  The law of Moses hadn't been delivered
• 30:06
  from Moses yet, but we do know
• 30:10
  that the law of Moses
• 30:12
  was already
• 30:13
  applied and Abraham,
• 30:18
  Esau and Jacob's grandfather
• 30:20
  had it because the bible says so.
• 30:23
  Maybe
• 30:24
  an expression of it to him, it doesn't say how or why, it just says that he followed God's statutes commandments.
• 30:32
  Let's come back to Esau and Jacob.
• 30:35
  He trades him, it was a swap.
• 30:38
  Now it is true and even at our common law and in the bible it's called disclaimer.
• 30:44
  You can disclaim your birthright,
• 30:46
  you can disclaim any inheritance, any bequeathment that somebody gives you, All you have to do is say I don't want it. It's called disclaimer.
• 30:53
  That would fit there. He disclaimed his inheritance as firstborn
• 30:58
  but what he didn't stop to consider and he should have, maybe, but
• 31:02
  this is all the sovereignty of God. Don't think
• 31:05
  that God didn't plan this out, he did and he uses the free will of men,
• 31:11
  the voluntary will of men to accomplish his overarching
• 31:14
  sovereign purpose so that never, he never
• 31:18
  allows to go awry.
• 31:20
  Now if you try to figure that out, you'll find yourself under the bed saying the Greek alphabet backwards.
• 31:27
  There's no figuring that out, it's just the fact of the matter and the whole bible hammers that home with full force at every point
• 31:35
  and you can't get away from it. By the time you get to Romans, as
• 31:41
  Roger was talking about when Paul was talking there,
• 31:44
  he hammers those points home and that's why he quotes, Jacob I have loved, Esau I have hated before the boys while they were in the womb, before they had any opportunity to do good or evil.
• 31:54
  God declared his choice and by the way
• 31:57
  Paul's
• 31:58
  point is there that he has declared his choice with you too.
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  It isn't of us that our salvation, nothing in us,
• 32:06
  no merit, no goodness, nothing.
• 32:10
  God saw us, He made his choice
• 32:12
  and that's the end of it. It's
• 32:16
  not up to us, as Paul says,
• 32:19
  answer back or against God on that point. I don't understand it
• 32:24
  but I do know the fact of the matter because the evidence
• 32:29
  is clear in the bible. Well coming back to Jacob, I've loved you and of course the other question there is that I'm not going to talk about right now, what according to the bible, according to the usages of the bible,
• 32:42
  what is love
• 32:44
  and according to the usages of the bible, what is hate. Once a fellow knows that a little bit,
• 32:50
  it does relieve a lot of tension by the way. That is an important point, but I want to come back to get into the Amalekites.
• 32:57
  So Jacob,
• 33:00
  after he said the red
• 33:02
  porridge,
• 33:05
  he picked up the word Edom or Adam. His
• 33:11
  descendants
• 33:12
  were called Adamites
• 33:14
  but in the bible pronounced Edomites
• 33:16
  so that we can draw the distinction between the two men. Here's the point about that that seemed to shout at me as I trace it through the Old Testament.
• 33:26
  God saw to it in his sovereignty that the evil race
• 33:32
  were called Edom.
• 33:34
  We're called Edom
• 33:36
  to remind us, or called Adam really, to remind us
• 33:41
  that our ancestor Adam
• 33:44
  was depraved
• 33:46
  totally.
• 33:48
  There was nothing good in him and that's why there's nothing good in us as we are born in the flesh and we require
• 33:54
  a
• 33:56
  savior.
• 33:57
  If that weren't true,
• 33:58
  Jesus Christ wouldn't matter.
• 34:01
  God's
• 34:01
  sovereignty and producing the Messiah through Jacob by the way, not through Edom.
• 34:07
  Does that mean that Edomites are evil?
• 34:10
  No,
• 34:12
  there were races of them, the Amalekites. God said wipe them out.
• 34:17
  Remember again, what is race?
• 34:19
  Oh wait, people don't
• 34:21
  stop to consider because who's got time,
• 34:24
  But the Latin word race
• 34:27
  means root.
• 34:29
  Root.
• 34:30
  And in the old testament,
• 34:32
  the word root is used to depict race and race is in the root. In other words, who are your ancestors
• 34:40
  is of indispensable
• 34:43
  importance to God and the record and the birth of the Messiah.
• 34:47
  The Messiah
• 34:49
  came through a particular
• 34:51
  set of races and every time a man has a child, there's a new race according to the bible because every father is a new root. There is one race of man
• 35:02
  called Adam.
• 35:04
  One race but within Adam's race are several races.
• 35:08
  Every father
• 35:09
  produces a new one. That's the biblical point of view.
• 35:13
  And to see it that way then is to understand
• 35:16
  the genealogical
• 35:17
  records of which there are many and they're
• 35:20
  utterly precise by the way and detailed.
• 35:24
  But back to Edom
• 35:26
  and his brother.
• 35:28
  So now
• 35:30
  Edom has disclaimed his birthright.
• 35:32
  He is called Edom now, Adam, because
• 35:36
  he
• 35:37
  Esau means the same thing, but the words Adam is used to mean red
• 35:43
  and he is called red. You know, I'd be like a guy today. I grew I've grown up with boys we called red. Did you, Roger?
• 35:49
  Yes.
• 35:50
  I did too. And I have a
• 35:53
  nephew who who we call red because his hair is red and his beard is red and so we call him red.
• 36:01
  That's normal. And and in in the Latin culture of Rome,
• 36:05
  they called people that were redheaded rufus sometimes.
• 36:08
  It was a kind of a nickname, but then it got to be a regular name, rufus,
• 36:14
  Anglo Saxon red.
• 36:17
  Semitic tongues,
• 36:19
  Adam,
• 36:20
  and then Edom to speak of Edom. So you got the two twin boys, one of them chosen to deliver to be the father of the race of men that would produce the Messiah.
• 36:30
  And that's Jacob.
• 36:32
  Later when God had forgotten slapped him around good and hard and got him straightened out and got him off himself a little bit.
• 36:39
  And less selfish,
• 36:41
  he renamed him
• 36:42
  Israel
• 36:43
  which
• 36:44
  means
• 36:45
  a law giver wins.
• 36:48
  Law giver wins and believe me, the true law giver always wins. He always gets his
• 36:54
  law
• 36:55
  and the consequences there from
• 36:58
  no exceptions
• 37:00
  ever
• 37:01
  to that rule. And that's what Israel means.
• 37:04
  Lawgiver wins. Remember, he wrestled with him all night and
• 37:09
  got wrestled with God all night long, wrestled with the lawgiver.
• 37:13
  And the law giver wanted to get away from him and he reason he wrestled with him, he grabbed hold of him. He remember his name is Clutcher.
• 37:21
  So he he grabbed hold of Yahoa,
• 37:25
  the member of the Godhead and would let him go. He said, I won't let you go until
• 37:31
  until you bless me.
• 37:33
  Well, he already had the birthright,
• 37:36
  but he wasn't confident of it, you see. That was the problem. Now that's me making that telephone noise, by the way. Was it? Okay. Yeah. Yeah.
• 37:45
  So
• 37:46
  he he had it, but he didn't have the confidence of it just like Christian Pope. Now you're you're chosen of God.
• 37:54
  You're born from above. That's his doing, not yours,
• 37:58
  but you don't have the confidence of it. I'm my father's son.
• 38:02
  What did I want? And my father, I say this, I can't believe it's almost shocking to me that God has allowed me
• 38:09
  to watch my father be near a 100 years old. Yeah. That's that's his summer. Right? Oh, yeah. Yeah. And I'm an old man with a old father, but I look at my situation, my father now, I see things that I could not have seen
• 38:24
  as a younger man with my father.
• 38:26
  And the one of the things that I've seen among many is that I look him back and I've told him this, said all I ever wanted to be would like you and please you. That's all I ever wanted. Yep. Yep. And I didn't understand that when I was a boy.
• 38:39
  And I didn't have the confidence that he accepted me the way I wanted him to. Mhmm. That's normal. That's not abnormal.
• 38:45
  Unknown: I I'd say I'm still trying to please my father. Yeah. But He's been gone thirty, forty years.
• 38:50
  Unknown: Yeah. And you wanna and that's just that's normal. God wired us boys that way, but you're coming back to
• 38:58
  I'm coming back to the idea that with god the father who is our true father.
• 39:03
  And we
• 39:05
  we don't have the confidence as Christian folk, he's burdened us, but we still lack full confidence that he really has accepted
• 39:13
  us. How could he accept me? I've heard people say this to me all my life. How could he accept me after what I've done? You don't know, You
• 39:22
  don't know what I've done. There ain't no way. And I say, well no no, you're not getting it. God
• 39:27
  doesn't want you to believe what you wanna believe, he wants you to believe what he said.
• 39:31
  And the forensic truth is that he birthed you from above what you were before is dead,
• 39:37
  destroyed and gone.
• 39:39
  You were dead to start with. God didn't rescue you from drowning,
• 39:44
  He rescued you after you had been drowned.
• 39:47
  He went to the bottom of the ocean. He didn't throw you a life preserver. He went to the bottom of the ocean
• 39:53
  and brought you up.
• 39:55
  And that's the picture of baptism, drowning. That's what the word means.
• 39:59
  Baptizo.
• 40:00
  It means to be drowned.
• 40:02
  Fundamentally,
• 40:03
  that way from Homer.
• 40:06
  The oldest Greek text we have is Homer.
• 40:09
  And that's the way Homer used it to speak of ships,
• 40:12
  sunken battle never to be seen again. Intensive
• 40:17
  root of the of the word of the root. Well,
• 40:20
  coming back to Jacob and Esau. So here we are, these two boys
• 40:25
  and Edom, well, he stole the birthright. Of Jacob, he runs away. He runs
• 40:30
  away after he stole the birthright because Isaac is really upset about that.
• 40:35
  And, he ended up marrying his
• 40:38
  his uncle's
• 40:39
  daughter, and what a mess. He was scratching and clawing. His name is Clutcher.
• 40:44
  Always clutching, scratching, and clawing, trying to get on top of his father-in-law and make sure he got more than him and on and on it goes. Finally, his father-in-law would want to murder them murder him the way he was acting. He takes his two wives, and they're both sisters,
• 41:01
  and runs away.
• 41:02
  And then as he's running away with all he got rich off his father-in
• 41:06
  And it didn't didn't cheat him technically.
• 41:09
  You understand? All a matter of contract.
• 41:11
  But, he just always pulling the underhanded stuff, trying to take advantage
• 41:16
  of the other fellow's weakness.
• 41:19
  So he runs away, and he's out in the desert. He's got more flocks and herds in them after seven years of of lit living with his,
• 41:27
  father-in-law.
• 41:28
  And he he finds out he's got his boys out in front running
• 41:33
  interference,
• 41:33
  and he finds out his brother Esau is coming
• 41:36
  his way, and he's got 400 armed men with him. And he's a man that knows how to use arms.
• 41:42
  And he he decided that I'm gonna die.
• 41:46
  So he he divided his family into three groups.
• 41:50
  And the first group he put up front that was
• 41:53
  the one that was his concubine sons
• 41:57
  and on back to his favorite wife who of course was Rachel who gave birth to his youngest,
• 42:04
  Benjamin
• 42:05
  and,
• 42:07
  Joseph.
• 42:08
  But of course the Messiah wasn't coming through those lines, but he's always thinking ahead. Oh, yeah. Always thinking ahead,
• 42:16
  but always trying to skin the other fella and get the advantage.
• 42:20
  Never stopped. His mind never stopped scheming. That's Jacob.
• 42:24
  And he didn't have the confidence, see,
• 42:27
  that God had accepted him. Where do you get that confidence? You get it from the book.
• 42:32
  Faith comes by hearing what it says, reading it, and then hearing it. And you if you're if God the spirit of God will move you to believe what it says. And as your confidence grows, life becomes more enjoyable, by the way, Roger. We're, of course, we're we're just struck with this and the picture of it is with our own fathers.
• 42:51
  Of course, we should understand this a little bit. We want acceptance from our fathers
• 42:57
  and he's the disciplinarian
• 42:59
  and we're just never sure we have it. The truth is with our earthly fathers, we don't have it because they're too depraved like us, and we got that from them.
• 43:08
  But God is not depraved at all. He is the father of lights, not darkness
• 43:13
  From whom
• 43:14
  whom no every perfect gift comes from the father of lights.
• 43:19
  James tells us,
• 43:21
  with whom there is no variableness neither shadow cast
• 43:25
  by turning. No matter which way God turns, he casts a shadow nowhere because he emanates light.
• 43:32
  Light is not something that he stands in and throws a shadow.
• 43:37
  This is the this is the fact of the matter
• 43:40
  and he has chosen his people.
• 43:43
  He chose them from before the foundation of the world, before anybody ever thought of who we were. You can go read it in Romans there. Okay. So,
• 43:52
  he meets Esau.
• 43:54
  He sends gifts ahead to try to pacify him. So he's thinking ahead, scheming. How can I keep this man from killing me?
• 44:02
  And
• 44:03
  then when they saw each other, they had a it broke them down a little bit and they wept and cried on each other's shoulders and and then their father passed away and they together buried their father, but then Esau swore,
• 44:18
  I'm gonna kill him.
• 44:20
  After we get dad buried,
• 44:23
  I'm gonna kill you.
• 44:25
  So we've got this thing set up. So moving forward, of course, Joseph,
• 44:29
  he was father of the one of the 10, 12 tribes.
• 44:32
  He becomes prime minister of Egypt because they his brothers were envious of him, sold him into slavery.
• 44:38
  What a story this is. Yeah. It is. So they get these
• 44:43
  brothers all just rotten as dog dirt, man. I mean, that's that's mankind.
• 44:48
  Sell your own brother into slavery.
• 44:50
  What a killing. The multicolored
• 44:53
  coat comes into play. Yeah. That's that's the that's the yeah. That's the that's what happened there. His father gave him a coat of many colors, very famous in the bible. And and they were envious because the youngest youngest boy was his favorite.
• 45:08
  Go ahead. Somebody said Bob is wanting to,
• 45:11
  Unknown: hey, Bob.
• 45:13
  Unknown: Hey. It's Daniel in Alaska.
• 45:16
  Unknown: Oh, I thought it Bob. I'm sorry. Hey, Daniel.
• 45:20
  Unknown: Hey there.
• 45:22
  That's okay. I just wanted to say hi to Brent.
• 45:26
  Just wanted to say,
• 45:28
  you know, let me know whenever you have time for a call.
• 45:31
  Would love to talk to you some more.
• 45:33
  Unknown: Well, thanks and I got your messages and yes, I'll look forward to talking. By the way,
• 45:40
  well,
• 45:41
  without saying it all, I'll contact you. Yeah. Thanks for calling or thanks for chiming in and keep in touch. We got listeners all over.
• 45:50
  Yeah. And
• 45:51
  oh, boy. Don't we? Who knows. Right? I mean, we're just talking to the the air and people listening. Thank
• 45:59
  the glorifying
• 46:00
  the God I hope. But let's come back to
• 46:03
  so he the
• 46:05
  whole nation, the whole of Jacob,
• 46:08
  which is the whole nation is his 12 sons and their children.
• 46:11
  And there were 70 of them at that time including their wives.
• 46:15
  They all go down to Egypt to keep them starving and they're the Jacob's,
• 46:20
  that's Israel. He's called Israel now.
• 46:22
  Remember there are no Israelites
• 46:25
  until
• 46:26
  Jacob is an Assyrian.
• 46:28
  Abraham is an Assyrian, his son Isaac is an Assyrian,
• 46:32
  Jacob and Esau are Assyrians but they father races of men too you see. Every father has his own race as biblical.
• 46:40
  So
• 46:41
  they get down to Egypt, they're there four hundred years. Yeah. That's a very famous story. They're enslaved through income tax by the way. And if you want to read more about that, I've written tons about it in the winterized translation of the bible and you can go and and look at the appendices and the translation and I try to bring color to that reality of income tax and slavery.
• 47:04
  But then God takes them out of Egypt
• 47:07
  and as they're coming out of Egypt, Moses is the one chosen to
• 47:12
  to be the leader in that case. They come up to
• 47:16
  to
• 47:17
  where Edom's
• 47:19
  Edom, Esau, Edom's descendants
• 47:22
  were. Now Edom after eventually after that, after
• 47:26
  they got into the promised land, before they went down to Egypt, I left this part out. Edom settled South
• 47:34
  Of
• 47:34
  Jerusalem
• 47:35
  on the
• 47:37
  on the West of the Dead Sea
• 47:40
  in a high mountainous
• 47:42
  area called Seir,
• 47:44
  S E I R.
• 47:46
  And it was impregnable.
• 47:48
  A
• 47:49
  few men could defend it because the only way to get in there was through
• 47:55
  was through canyons.
• 47:57
  And they had them all manned, of course, we had men up there with crossbows.
• 48:01
  I don't care if you had an army of a million, they weren't gonna make it through.
• 48:06
  And that's where Edom had settled.
• 48:09
  And
• 48:11
  Edom,
• 48:12
  Jacob's twin brother
• 48:14
  had a grandson named Amalek and
• 48:18
  when the Israelites came out of Egypt at a bare minimum 3,000,000 strong, just you have to do the arithmetic.
• 48:25
  At a bare minimum 3,000,000 men women and children
• 48:28
  probably more like 6,000,000.
• 48:31
  They came up
• 48:33
  and they came to where Amalek was and asked permission.
• 48:37
  Moses sent word ahead asked permission to come through to stick to the king's highway by the way,
• 48:44
  which went right through there and he said we'll pay you for water but we'll just pass them through. We won't bother and we'll pay you for water.
• 48:51
  Now here's another key point about the Amalekites
• 48:55
  which are Edomites.
• 48:56
  Say they're descended from Edom.
• 48:59
  They're Amalekites.
• 49:01
  They became
• 49:02
  ultra wealthy
• 49:04
  producing
• 49:04
  nothing.
• 49:06
  They didn't farm. They lived up there. That's a big key right there.
• 49:10
  Yeah. And they they didn't farm. They didn't raise animals,
• 49:14
  but their geographic
• 49:16
  location was situated
• 49:18
  right on what was called the King's Highway.
• 49:21
  You know, was in Southern well, been California
• 49:23
  a lot, California and there's
• 49:26
  a place there called or there's a road that runs north to south that the Spanish put in called the King's Highway. It's called El Camino
• 49:34
  Real.
• 49:35
  Uh-huh. The the King's Highway which referred
• 49:38
  there to the king of Spain.
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  And it's still there. So I think it yeah. 101 the 101 that runs up the coast is El
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  Camino
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  Real.
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  And Real Real.
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  I don't know how the Spaniards pronounce it. That's what I say. Real. Real.
• 49:55
  Yeah. Okay. Real is the it's a Latin rooted word. It's the same thing as
• 50:00
  the word realm, r e a l m. It has to do with sovereignty. Kings
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  Uh-huh. Has to do with that.
• 50:07
  Big
• 50:08
  Unknown: Regal. There's that same word. What's that? The the big soccer team is Real Madrid.
• 50:14
  Yeah. Oh, that's weird. Leon Messi used to play. Well, that's World famous.
• 50:20
  Unknown: That that a highway like that was in the I don't I'm not sure where the name came. It was called the King's Highway.
• 50:27
  And in England, there were highways called the King's Highway because the high roads
• 50:31
  belong to the government. That's just that's the way it is in America. Although we don't have a king, that's still government property.
• 50:38
  Well, that's there was a a road like that and it went from Egypt which produced a whole lot of agricultural goods because of the delta. And it went up through
• 50:46
  the By Sierra where Edom lived and on up through and then it got to the top and they it's called the French called the Levant.
• 50:55
  And then it turned and went down into Mesopotamia
• 50:58
  which that means meso between
• 51:00
  Potomac,
• 51:01
  the rivers, between the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers, Mesopotamia
• 51:05
  and went on down toward Babylon and on down to where
• 51:09
  the the Gulf of
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  where the Strait Of Hormuz is. That was all that area. It was very fertile and that highway was the main highway and all of the of the of the inhabited
• 51:21
  world. And Seir,
• 51:23
  Edom was right on that highway and they became ultra wealthy through the centuries producing nothing but charging people
• 51:30
  a tribute to come through there.
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  Now that explains why
• 51:35
  Muhammad was nothing more than a desert bandit. That's all he was. He had no Same thing today over with Iran.
• 51:43
  Yeah. He had no he had no culture behind him for generations
• 51:47
  of ever producing
• 51:48
  anything,
• 51:49
  of ever conquering land.
• 51:51
  That wasn't that's not the culture. That's not the culture of the Edomites and that's not the culture of Judaism. They're the same.
• 51:58
  That land is is
• 52:01
  not part of their culture and the lowest
• 52:03
  the lowest rung
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  on the ladder among creatures of the earth is to farm. That's the official doctrine
• 52:11
  of of of those cultures because they
• 52:14
  had have developed the idea
• 52:17
  Unknown: of making money without producing, without providing a meaningful service. Go ahead, Roger. Michael Bloomberg says, what's the big deal about farming? All you do is put a seed in the ground.
• 52:27
  Unknown: Yeah.
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  And yeah. No. I know. I I remember when he said that and I can testify
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  that it takes a lot of sophistication
• 52:36
  to make a living farming.
• 52:38
  Oh, you can throw seeds into the ground and you can do all the things but there's so many little things to make it profitable
• 52:44
  that you learn them and they're inherited through generations usually
• 52:48
  but that's the way it used to be done but now you can go to the internet and learn how to do it. It's kinda nice frankly.
• 52:54
  But coming back to
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  Edom, they they became nothing but bandits and desert bandits to boot.
• 53:02
  The the culture that the bible sets forth is an agricultural
• 53:06
  productive culture,
• 53:08
  raising animals and
• 53:10
  farming land.
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  And
• 53:13
  our common law tradition by the way is an agricultural culture.
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  That's why we call it the law of the land. Right. And everything about it is about production
• 53:23
  and everything about it is about
• 53:26
  dominating land for the purposes of productivity.
• 53:29
  That's why we're wealthy.
• 53:31
  We have an agricultural system
• 53:33
  in America that's the common law agricultural system. The only other one in the world is the Babylonian system today called the Roman system. You know, we're talking about El Camino Real.
• 53:45
  When the Spaniards got
• 53:47
  what is now the Western United States,
• 53:50
  they colonized it using the Roman agricultural
• 53:53
  system because they're a law of the city,
• 53:57
  civil law code,
• 53:59
  canon civil law people.
• 54:01
  And with that, what does that mean? That means you enslave the inhabitants
• 54:05
  because agricultural
• 54:06
  and agricultural
• 54:07
  and Roman system is fundamentally slavery.
• 54:11
  And
• 54:12
  it's productive and that's what they understand. The plantation system of the South was the Roman agricultural system of slavery,
• 54:20
  and the Spaniards out west had the Roman agricultural
• 54:23
  system of slavery. Los Angeles founded in the year 1781
• 54:29
  was founded
• 54:30
  with on the purpose of enslaving
• 54:33
  the indigenous
• 54:35
  people there at the mission. It was called the mission system, but it was a system
• 54:39
  of slavery.
• 54:41
  Well, that's
• 54:42
  that's what
• 54:45
  Edomites were into.
• 54:47
  So they had to spell a name Amalek. Amalek, of course, the father Amalekites,
• 54:52
  but then later on,
• 54:54
  they were called the Edomians.
• 54:57
  Now this the the reason these words change so it's Esau,
• 55:00
  Edom,
• 55:01
  Edomians. The reason the words change, we've cited one reason,
• 55:05
  was a quirk of history to us because we weren't we don't know the future like god does. We have words like chance, luck, stuff like that, but those are just other words for human ignorance according to the logicians like Jebins.
• 55:20
  And that's true. We
• 55:22
  knew everything. If we were omniscient
• 55:25
  and even knew the laws of god, but the point is everything
• 55:28
  operates according to the laws of God. There's never any deviations
• 55:32
  and the consequences are always inevitable,
• 55:34
  always.
• 55:35
  That's why it's good to straighten up your act as much as you can.
• 55:38
  Well with with Edom,
• 55:41
  the Amalekites,
• 55:42
  they wouldn't let him in so God cursed the Amalekites
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  and told the Israelites
• 55:48
  because they were vicious toward the Israelites.
• 55:51
  You can imagine why. We get to the book of Obadiah.
• 55:56
  I would recommend that book for good reading
• 55:59
  about the Amalekites because
• 56:02
  Unknown: somebody's talking Yeah. I was gonna say, is that your phone or is it somebody else, Brent?
• 56:07
  No. It's not mine. Okay. Let's see if we could get yeah. Heads up. Could everybody check your star six?
• 56:14
  Somebody's bleeding over.
• 56:16
  Unknown: The Amalekites. Yeah. Thank you. The Amalekites,
• 56:19
  were the Edomites, but then they were called the Edomians. And the reason is because other languages and other dialects creep in and change the the vowel sounds and maybe add a consonant or two.
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  But Edom
• 56:33
  Edom Esau first.
• 56:34
  Edom that occurred after he wanted that red red porridge
• 56:39
  and then they came to be called the Edomians.
• 56:42
  Well out of that, they were just south there.
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  There was a a king in Israel
• 56:49
  that and this happened during the four hundred years of what we call the four hundred years of silence between the old testament and the new testament.
• 56:57
  God did not speak. He was silent.
• 57:00
  And during that was the time of the Maccabees and all that. But during that time, the king of the Southern kingdom of a kingdom of Israel
• 57:07
  put out a law
• 57:09
  that said all the Edomians which were Edomites and seer,
• 57:13
  they had to
• 57:14
  convert to Judaism.
• 57:17
  That's what we call Talmudism today or he would slaughter them and drive them out.
• 57:22
  He said, well, a way to deal with these Amalekites who obviously God hated,
• 57:26
  he said,
• 57:27
  let's just convert them. How do we deal with the problem? Let's convert them to Judaism by the sword and he did.
• 57:34
  And so out of that arose a very ambitious family
• 57:39
  and there arose out of that family of Edomites,
• 57:41
  a very ambitious man who is now a boatery, a follower of Babylonian Judaism
• 57:48
  and that of course was the policy. You convert people all over the world to Judaism. That's why we don't know they have no claim to be Israelites today. They have no evidence. But the Edomites were were
• 58:00
  were Jews
• 58:01
  by that time. Yeah. And there was a very ambitious family out of arose and they knew that the way to get power, political power in the in Israel,
• 58:11
  you had to be friends in Rome. You had to somehow get Rome
• 58:15
  on your side and so he traveled to Rome,
• 58:18
  he got on the inside, he became a politician
• 58:21
  as a young man. He was in Rome and he secured,
• 58:25
  finally secured an appointment
• 58:28
  as governor of Judea
• 58:31
  and we call him today Herod.
• 58:34
  So he was an Edomite.
• 58:36
  The Edomites had mixed the Judaism. They were they followed Judaism, the Israelites followed Judaism and the Edomites were all part of the nation Israel because they've been converted to Judaism by the sword. Some of them saw the opportunity and they became a strong part of the Pharisee party
• 58:54
  and also the Sadducee party and also the
• 58:58
  Essene party. The Essene's aren't mentioned in the New Testament but we if you look read the New Testament close and begin to think about what you're reading, you see that Jesus Christ refers to the errors of all three of those. The Essene's
• 59:11
  were the ones that produced the Dead Sea Scrolls, you see. Oh, yeah. So you had these three groups.
• 59:18
  Well, the Edomites were there and he got
• 59:22
  appointed governor and a governor is a what? In in in English law, for example, in in India,
• 59:30
  the man who was appointed by the crown of England to rule India had the same powers as the crown of England. He didn't have to ask. He just did what he thought was best
• 59:40
  under as as
• 59:42
  an appointee of the crown,
• 59:45
  and he was called viceroy.
• 59:49
  Viceroy.
• 59:50
  Well, viceroy is the preposition
• 59:52
  in Latin that means in place of
• 59:55
  and Roy
• 59:56
  is the French word having to do with king and sovereignty like Real and Regal and Mhmm. I was talking about that a while ago. Viceroy, of course, the French tongue had crept into England so they call him Viceroy.
• 1:00:09
  And he he had full powers to do anything the king and that's the way the governors
• 1:00:14
  were in the Roman Empire. They had the full power.
• 1:00:18
  I mean, three branches of government, they held in their hand the full power of their God who was the emperor of Rome.
• 1:00:27
  That was Herod during the time of Jesus Christ.
• 1:00:30
  And he then he could do anything he wanted.
• 1:00:34
  Could enslave all the people or anybody there he wanted to enslave. That's the way the Roman system worked and he would do that and he could take on any title he wanted and so he said, I wanna be called king
• 1:00:45
  of the Jews.
• 1:00:47
  King of the Jews. And Herod,
• 1:00:51
  was called king of the Jews. He killed anybody. He was a vicious SOB because and he lived in such fear
• 1:00:58
  that people would kill him that
• 1:01:00
  he was in he went insane.
• 1:01:02
  That's the way money and power gets to people. Sure does. And he that's why he ordered all of the baby boys or in the vicinity of Bethlehem murdered.
• 1:01:13
  Remember the story and he was trying to make sure murder
• 1:01:16
  this fellow that they said would be born king of the Jews, Jesus Christ.
• 1:01:21
  He said that's that's challenging. He'd murdered two of his sons already.
• 1:01:27
  A couple of his brother in laws, I think he'd rounded them in a in a Greek pool or a bath, you know, where all the Sodomites go.
• 1:01:35
  And somebody
• 1:01:36
  said that it's safer to be a pig
• 1:01:39
  in the court of king Herod
• 1:01:42
  Because him being a Jew or following Judaism, that's what Yeah. We would. He
• 1:01:47
  wouldn't eat the pig, but he wouldn't kill the pig, but he'd kill his own sons, and he did.
• 1:01:52
  So here you got this man sitting on the throne throne throne of Israel. There's
• 1:01:57
  an Amalekite
• 1:01:58
  and
• 1:01:59
  as an Edomite.
• 1:02:02
  The Edomites had pervaded
• 1:02:05
  the nation Israel mixed up with them. They claimed to be purebreds,
• 1:02:09
  they weren't.
• 1:02:12
  And on and on the madness goes, but that's the story of the Amalekites,
• 1:02:15
  where they came from,
• 1:02:17
  and how they figured into the gospel records. And let's bring it one more step forward.
• 1:02:22
  That is why Benjamin
• 1:02:24
  Netanyahu
• 1:02:26
  justifies
• 1:02:27
  the murder
• 1:02:28
  of
• 1:02:30
  Arabs because
• 1:02:31
  he says there are Amalekites,
• 1:02:33
  let's kill them men, women, and children. That's what's going on. But don't forget
• 1:02:37
  that the Iranians
• 1:02:39
  who are Assyrians
• 1:02:43
  put about a million children when they were at war with Iraq.
• 1:02:48
  They put about a million children
• 1:02:50
  in front of their army to
• 1:02:53
  walk through mine and find the mines and as shields
• 1:02:57
  and murder them, they don't care either. Why? Because none of them.
• 1:03:02
  They all killing each other, slaughtering each other like hogs.
• 1:03:06
  Yeah. None of them none of them recognize
• 1:03:08
  the sovereignty
• 1:03:10
  of the true God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob
• 1:03:13
  and his Messiah,
• 1:03:15
  the the the Godhead's Messiah,
• 1:03:17
  Jesus the Christ.
• 1:03:20
  And that will that will produce a culture
• 1:03:23
  that is murderous beyond imagination,
• 1:03:26
  and that's what you got. Yep.
• 1:03:29
  Unknown: And and I'd urge you again in case you missed first part of this program, if you try
• 1:03:33
  and take in the latest Tucker
• 1:03:36
  installment there. I think it was just posted yesterday.
• 1:03:39
  He's a British doctor who's been down there in Gaza numerous times on medical missions
• 1:03:45
  and in Israel also, and he just he's not emotional.
• 1:03:49
  He doesn't point fingers. He just tells you the stories of what he saw,
• 1:03:53
  what he experienced, and what he heard from close friends.
• 1:03:56
  And it will give you a view.
• 1:03:59
  And listen. This is Tucker Carlson. Now we're talking about that video will probably get,
• 1:04:06
  I'd say, way over a 100,000,000 views.
• 1:04:09
  Unknown: Well, Tucker's bottom line is
• 1:04:11
  that in Christian culture,
• 1:04:14
  and he identifies with that clearly,
• 1:04:16
  we do not murder women and children Correct. In warfare.
• 1:04:21
  And he is absolutely correct. There's a lot of there's a lot of rules and limits to warfare and the law of God,
• 1:04:26
  and that's the bible. The bible talks about it a lot. To put it in more maybe American
• 1:04:32
  perspective,
• 1:04:34
  one of our heroes has been Kit Carson.
• 1:04:37
  Yeah. And Kit, they called him Kit. Kit's the word for a baby beaver,
• 1:04:42
  and Kit was a little tiny fella. Okay. Yeah. You know, you have you have fox baby fox maybe.
• 1:04:49
  Well, that too, I think. That too. Oh, foxes or kits. That's right.
• 1:04:54
  But, Kit was a little tiny fella.
• 1:04:56
  He was humped over at the shoulder. He was
• 1:05:00
  freckled and redheaded.
• 1:05:02
  He didn't cut much of a figure, what I'm saying, but he was
• 1:05:07
  smart and tough as nails.
• 1:05:09
  And I don't mean to demean him in any way. He was quite a man.
• 1:05:13
  Quite a man. And very patriotic to his country and he received a commission. Couldn't read and write. By the way, congress removed his army commission once they found out he didn't know how to read and write, but he operated.
• 1:05:26
  How typical.
• 1:05:28
  Yeah. That's typical. And he did same thing to
• 1:05:31
  Unknown: Thomas Massage.
• 1:05:34
  Unknown: Nothing new. But Kit Carson
• 1:05:36
  Kit Carson had a dark
• 1:05:39
  they had a dark side of life. He did things he had not to do like all the rest of us and one of the things he did,
• 1:05:45
  he was ordered to
• 1:05:47
  when this during the war between the Northern and the Southern states and he
• 1:05:52
  he was a member of he was an officer of the Union Army.
• 1:05:56
  And he was given orders to annihilate
• 1:05:59
  as by the way the Confederates did in the Shenandoah Valley.
• 1:06:03
  And then they have Robert wrote with Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson,
• 1:06:08
  all those fellows, they they went on a rampage in the San Jacinto Valley
• 1:06:13
  Valley and did what the bible says clearly not to do.
• 1:06:17
  When you go to war says God,
• 1:06:20
  a lot of things that you do to stop the enemy, but one of them you don't do is you don't destroy agricultural
• 1:06:26
  production just to just
• 1:06:28
  to destroy agricultural production
• 1:06:31
  and burn the fruit trees down, things like that. No. Well, they the confederates did that. Knocked No. I'm sorry. The 100 plus year old olive tree. I got that. Bulldozer. Roger. I gotta correct myself. The confederates did not do that.
• 1:06:47
  I talk about so many things I get confused. No. They didn't do that. The union did that. Yeah. Now we're talking. I'm I'm I apologize.
• 1:06:56
  But Kit Carson did that to the tribes
• 1:07:00
  that had developed
• 1:07:02
  very productive agricultural
• 1:07:04
  system as fruit farmers in a valley there. I believe it was in New Mexico.
• 1:07:08
  And they had irrigation system there in the desert, agricultural system, and they produced a lot and Mhmm. Well, they were just well off. And he went in and destroyed all their fruit trees. Fruit trees take a long time to produce Yes. They do. Produce.
• 1:07:24
  Unknown: And Minimum minimum ten years.
• 1:07:27
  Unknown: Yeah. And if you if you go to war,
• 1:07:30
  god says, I want you to have those fruit trees. I don't want you to destroy them. They're your your spoils of war. Right. And God blesses our obedience to him.
• 1:07:40
  Even if they aren't spoils of war, whatever the case, don't destroy them. Don't murder women and children. Now the Israelites are saying Israelites know. The Israelis and there's a distinction between those two words
• 1:07:52
  as a matter of race and religion.
• 1:07:54
  But
• 1:07:55
  they're saying, these people are Amalekites.
• 1:07:58
  Well, my question then is number one, God gave orders
• 1:08:04
  to a distinct race of men
• 1:08:06
  to annihilate the Amalekites,
• 1:08:09
  men women and children. Did that happen? Yes. That happened.
• 1:08:12
  But once that was over, do you are you Israelites? Number one.
• 1:08:17
  Do you claim to be worshippers of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob? You claim to do it but you aren't because you hate Jesus Christ.
• 1:08:27
  And to hate the Messiah of God that came through that line, that's what the story of the Old Testament is about. Among many other things to show the preservation of that line
• 1:08:38
  all through to the very end where Jesus Christ is born of that line.
• 1:08:43
  You don't you don't worship Jesus Christ, you don't worship the Godhead of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
• 1:08:50
  And what proof do you have that these are Amalekites?
• 1:08:53
  And the answer is none.
• 1:08:55
  We had a guy on here years ago, Roger, that call in from Indiana, and man, he'd get hot under the collar and he'd climb my frame. Remember how you used to climb my frame? Boy, that was a long time ago. He was he was hateful toward me because I wouldn't say that I was Israel and
• 1:09:13
  I my response to him was I am Israel.
• 1:09:16
  The bible says so.
• 1:09:18
  But beyond what the bible says, I have no reliable evidence of my ancestry outside of going back four generations to the old Mount Church down there when folk first came west into the Wabash Valley and my my great grandparents and great great grandparents were there.
• 1:09:37
  Outside of that, I don't know who my ancestors are. I'm like a lot of Americans. I can look at the tombstones and see, well, the names look like they're British, you know, and and maybe maybe something else.
• 1:09:50
  There's names there that go back to Scandinavian
• 1:09:54
  countries and things like that, but
• 1:09:57
  even those that come through Britain look like they just come through Britain.
• 1:10:01
  But beyond that
• 1:10:03
  are millions of ancestors
• 1:10:05
  and I don't know who they are.
• 1:10:07
  I can assume they probably were those people but you know, you
• 1:10:13
  that to have not have the evidence that God gives you to say, here's who I am a 100%.
• 1:10:19
  I can't say a 100% who I am. I do know,
• 1:10:23
  like 80% of all Americans who have been here since before the civil war or the war between the northern and southern tiers of the states. If you've got family that are here before that, there's an 80% chance that you've got Indian tribe blood in your veins. Yep. So
• 1:10:40
  are there any purebreds here? I'm doubtful. Nope. Not me. But, yeah but my yeah. Yeah. Me neither in that respect, but I I do know substantially what I am. But he was wanted me to claim I was a pure bread and and that's silly. Why don't you accept these doctrines?
• 1:10:58
  Unknown: Well. I said, well, point to the bible and show me how I can prove myself on that and I'll I'll go along with it. Alright. Go ahead, Roger. Sketch came on here one day. I was reading something historical and there was a sales in it through that was raising all kind of hell over there in England a couple hundred years ago, and I I thought I've gotta be connected with him.
• 1:11:18
  Okay? So,
• 1:11:19
  it's it's interesting.
• 1:11:21
  Brent, you wanna open up the phones and get some comments, or you got any other things you wanna expand on? Or sorry to go. Because this is very interesting, and I think it's very beneficial
• 1:11:31
  to a lot of people as more and more people boy, this is happening now. Wholesale rate
• 1:11:36
  are finding out who these people are and how they operate
• 1:11:40
  and things like Tucker Carlson's
• 1:11:43
  deal with this doctor.
• 1:11:44
  I mean, I it'd be interesting to see. Maybe we can check it later. I'll be shocked if it gets less than a 100,000,000 views.
• 1:11:51
  Unknown: Yes. And we and we need to remember in all of this discussion
• 1:11:56
  that what's happening right now
• 1:11:58
  is because of religious conviction
• 1:12:00
  because of either a proper or an improper understanding
• 1:12:04
  Yeah. About what the bible says. Don't kid yourself. It's always that way. This guy's so British,
• 1:12:10
  Unknown: and you'll appreciate it. Uh-huh.
• 1:12:13
  Because I know how much you like you and I both like that culture and love Paul English and all that. And he's sitting here talking about these
• 1:12:21
  heinous
• 1:12:23
  incidents,
• 1:12:24
  and and the only thing he says is appalling.
• 1:12:28
  Unknown: Yeah. That's that's British, I'm pretty sure. Appalling. By
• 1:12:32
  the way, appalling Hey, Roger. Appalling to be appalled means to turn white.
• 1:12:37
  Oh, oh. It means for all the blood to go out of your face. Okay. That was To be appalled. My fault.
• 1:12:44
  Unknown: Was that Bob? Who's something we got yelling about fault? We got Bob, I think. Was that you, Bob? Say it.
• 1:12:51
  Unknown: It's Larry.
• 1:12:52
  Unknown: Yeah. I was just gonna say the old gentleman that was so contagious from Indiana was Gus. You remember Gus Gus?
• 1:13:00
  Unknown: Yeah. Gus. That's who it was, wasn't it? Oh, I think that was like that guy calling in. It was so bludger.
• 1:13:08
  Unknown: They would argue. Was appalling doesn't mean it was my fault.
• 1:13:12
  Unknown: Uh-huh. Just saying.
• 1:13:14
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 1:13:15
  You're white, aren't you? Good. Good.
• 1:13:20
  Unknown: Okay. I think Larry was in there too. Good to hear you. Bob, did you have a question or a comment or just on appalling?
• 1:13:30
  Yeah. Don't guess Bob's gonna answer me. Okay. I heard from Bob in a couple of days. Good to hear you. Larry, you were there?
• 1:13:38
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 1:13:39
  So
• 1:13:41
  you're Brent, you were talking about
• 1:13:44
  Jacob and Esau.
• 1:13:46
  And at first,
• 1:13:47
  Roger said it was nine eleven, but it's actually nine thirteen. Romans nine thirteen.
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  Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
• 1:13:57
  There seems to be a controversy out there. A lot of people think
• 1:14:00
  that that word hate,
• 1:14:02
  it it actually means to, you know, have active malice against
• 1:14:07
  and the underlying
• 1:14:09
  Greek word is is missio,
• 1:14:11
  I believe.
• 1:14:13
  And it it can mean to have active malice or to despise.
• 1:14:18
  But I was wondering if you agree with this principle.
• 1:14:22
  Whenever the bible uses
• 1:14:25
  the word hate like in these contexts,
• 1:14:30
  it basically means loved less or preferred less. So in ancient Hebrew and coined Greek,
• 1:14:36
  hate was often used comparatively
• 1:14:39
  to show preference.
• 1:14:41
  If you loved one thing and did not choose it over another, it was culturally
• 1:14:46
  described as hate.
• 1:14:47
  For an example of this
• 1:14:49
  same word
• 1:14:51
  translated
• 1:14:52
  as prefer, you could look at Luke fourteen twenty six
• 1:14:56
  where Jesus says a disciple must hate
• 1:14:59
  their family compared to their devotion
• 1:15:02
  to God.
• 1:15:04
  So do you agree with that?
• 1:15:07
  Unknown: A little
• 1:15:09
  because I don't know everything about what you mean by what you say, but I I like to put it this way.
• 1:15:16
  Love
• 1:15:17
  in the bible,
• 1:15:19
  the word love
• 1:15:21
  is more powerful than anybody that I've ever listened to try to describe it could put it.
• 1:15:27
  I I translate it. I I use a hyphenated word to translate. Agape.
• 1:15:33
  There's three kind of love in the Greek tongue
• 1:15:35
  and to understand love as and to compare as you've done, that's that's the way to do it. That helps.
• 1:15:41
  To understand love in the Greek there are three kind of love in the Greek tongue. Two of them, some people say three, has
• 1:15:49
  to do with
• 1:15:50
  with, affection of,
• 1:15:53
  females
• 1:15:54
  for their young,
• 1:15:56
  animals or people.
• 1:15:58
  It's it's undeniable,
• 1:16:00
  and it's unstoppable, frankly.
• 1:16:02
  They'll kill,
• 1:16:05
  out of that that natural affection. But the love that god talks about that is divine love is agape.
• 1:16:12
  There's eros.
• 1:16:13
  Eros is not in the New Testament, but it's in the Greek tongue, and eros means
• 1:16:19
  sexually
• 1:16:20
  passionate love, you know, erotic.
• 1:16:22
  That that's not what God's talking about, not even in the New Testament.
• 1:16:27
  Then there's Pileo,
• 1:16:29
  the the city of Philadelphia
• 1:16:32
  is uses that word, Adelfas'
• 1:16:34
  brother, and Philos means
• 1:16:38
  a dear friend.
• 1:16:39
  Dear friend.
• 1:16:41
  I've got a lot of friends.
• 1:16:43
  Those kind of people you shake their hand heartily and you grab with your left hand, you grab their elbow and you shake their hand. Goes kinda folk. Yeah. Yeah. That's over Yeah. Over. Yeah. Folk, you just you I mean, I feel that way with people on the show sometimes. We're all I feel like we have that kind of connection.
• 1:17:02
  And but then there's that love that goes beyond.
• 1:17:06
  It has nothing to do with affection.
• 1:17:08
  It has nothing to do with how you feel about another fellow.
• 1:17:11
  Has everything to do about whether or not you do the law of god toward him no matter what. No matter what it costs you.
• 1:17:18
  The love of god, that's
• 1:17:21
  the verb form, the
• 1:17:24
  noun form,
• 1:17:25
  is the love that
• 1:17:28
  you're driven. Why? Because of the law of god.
• 1:17:33
  You're driven to do what God says
• 1:17:36
  even if it destroys you. This but to make an analogy,
• 1:17:41
  the difference that are in our common law between a fiduciary relationship
• 1:17:45
  and an arm's length relationship.
• 1:17:48
  A fiduciary relationship
• 1:17:50
  which is the trust.
• 1:17:52
  A trustee
• 1:17:53
  is in a fiduciary relationship.
• 1:17:55
  That means
• 1:17:56
  that he has to act. The law demands
• 1:18:00
  that he act in the best interest of the beneficiaries
• 1:18:03
  regardless of what it does to him.
• 1:18:06
  That's what regardless of what it cost him.
• 1:18:10
  The bible says for example that,
• 1:18:13
  when you get married, a man is entrusted with a woman.
• 1:18:17
  And the bible says that
• 1:18:20
  he is required to give his life
• 1:18:23
  for his wife if need be.
• 1:18:25
  Take a bullet for her if he has to
• 1:18:28
  and God will put that in a Christian man. It's not something you have naturally. It's not something you get any credit for.
• 1:18:34
  If it happens, it happens.
• 1:18:36
  But that's the kind of love Agapeya. Jesus Christ,
• 1:18:40
  as it says in the old testament and I believe Isaiah says that the Messiah of God, God himself
• 1:18:47
  swore
• 1:18:49
  to keep his promise, his trust settlement
• 1:18:52
  even, here's the key phrase, even to his own
• 1:18:56
  hurt.
• 1:18:57
  Now Jesus Christ promised to save his people. What did it cost him?
• 1:19:02
  It cost him
• 1:19:04
  torture beyond imagination,
• 1:19:07
  physical torture
• 1:19:08
  and brutal murder
• 1:19:10
  which was torturous as well called crucifixion.
• 1:19:14
  That's murder by torture.
• 1:19:16
  That's what that is. And torture before that, he was beaten to a pulp,
• 1:19:21
  unrecognizable
• 1:19:22
  as human as he was reduced to human debrief,
• 1:19:26
  the Frenchman would say.
• 1:19:29
  Well, that's to his own hurt, but he kept his promise.
• 1:19:32
  He kept it.
• 1:19:33
  And the one thing that God will do and no matter what are what are his promises,
• 1:19:39
  His promises are
• 1:19:42
  his law.
• 1:19:43
  Every law, every expression of his will
• 1:19:47
  is a promise of what will happen as a consequence of obedience or not obedience to it. God is
• 1:19:54
  he's all about promises.
• 1:19:56
  What is a promise? The English word is an undertaking.
• 1:20:00
  The Latin word the other Latin word is a commitment.
• 1:20:04
  Once an expression in acts
• 1:20:07
  or words and deeds or words that you are going to do something
• 1:20:12
  or God, now God has done that
• 1:20:14
  and he's going to do something and he did it and everything and the promises, the precious promises of Peter the apostle puts it. These are species of contractual relationships.
• 1:20:26
  That
• 1:20:27
  is why that is why when the founders of America got here, we call them Puritans.
• 1:20:34
  When they when
• 1:20:35
  they went
• 1:20:37
  to have established
• 1:20:39
  a college
• 1:20:40
  and it happened at the behest of a preacher named John Harvard
• 1:20:45
  who donated his library,
• 1:20:47
  massive library to start the college,
• 1:20:50
  the key
• 1:20:52
  overarching
• 1:20:54
  controlling
• 1:20:55
  principle of Christianity
• 1:20:57
  that
• 1:20:58
  they
• 1:20:59
  stressed
• 1:21:00
  was the law of promises
• 1:21:03
  And by the time Harvard Law School was founded, the center of that law school was contract class.
• 1:21:10
  And even you even see that today. There was a movie back in the late early seventies
• 1:21:15
  called Paper Chase. Do you remember that, Roger? Sure do. There's a TV show too, think. Yeah. Paper Chase, the movie was about
• 1:21:23
  a couple of young fellows that went to Harvard Law School
• 1:21:27
  and it was all about contracts class
• 1:21:30
  and it was all about the professor of contracts class
• 1:21:33
  and what happened there. Well, that didn't say anything about Christianity but the reason all that and the reason we live we live in a Christian culture. The reason we do everything we do is because of our Christian culture. Everything that's worthwhile,
• 1:21:48
  but we lose the connection. The reason that they stressed contracts at Harvard and they they always have. They don't now. It's finally all going away. It's because contracts
• 1:21:58
  how can you understand
• 1:22:00
  the depth
• 1:22:01
  of the wisdom of Christianity
• 1:22:04
  without understanding the as Peter, the old fisherman, he was the rough fisherman. He recognized it. The precious promises of God.
• 1:22:12
  Everything that God says is an undertaking
• 1:22:17
  and the controlling undertaking of course is the promise of to send
• 1:22:21
  God in human flesh among us to live among us, to redeem us from hell on our own selves and then to come again and rule with us.
• 1:22:32
  We rule with him by the way, the sovereign of the universe.
• 1:22:36
  That's what the book says. We are the elect.
• 1:22:39
  Make of that what you want. We are the elect.
• 1:22:42
  But what for the God you no Christianity would be here. He's the first mover and the last mover. He is the alpha and the omega says the book of Revelation.
• 1:22:54
  So the word love being what it is, the commitment of God,
• 1:22:59
  love loves those things that are not lovable.
• 1:23:03
  Love loves the fellow that is important,
• 1:23:06
  that stinks.
• 1:23:07
  Yeah. That nobody wants to be around but what did what does love? Love is doing toward him what the law of God says. No. That doesn't mean you go and be always compassionate
• 1:23:19
  and it may mean that you stay away from him. It depends upon what the law of God says given the circumstances
• 1:23:26
  and if you don't know the law of God, something about it, you can't love anybody
• 1:23:31
  and you won't.
• 1:23:33
  And this is the fundamental. So John says in first John,
• 1:23:38
  this is the love of God, agape,
• 1:23:42
  that we keep his commandments.
• 1:23:44
  What's he doing when he said that? He's defining love as keeping the commandments, the law of God. We just repeat in the principle Jesus Christ said it this way. He said to to his followers,
• 1:23:56
  if you love me as you say you do,
• 1:23:59
  why don't you do what I tell you to do?
• 1:24:02
  Go read it. That's exactly what it says. Love is doing what God says
• 1:24:07
  toward the other fellow and it may not look too lovable by the way. It just depends. I used to say to people, you know, if a guy's in war and it's a just war according to the bible
• 1:24:19
  and the other man is trying to kill him,
• 1:24:21
  I remember reading a book about the rescue of the prisoners that came out of Bataan. They were imprisoned during the entire war. The Bataan death march.
• 1:24:30
  Yeah. The Americans finally figured out that when they got close to them, they got word from some Filipinos who said, look.
• 1:24:38
  These Japs are gonna murder just before we get them. Now they're gonna leave them alive. What's left of them? Are almost 500 left.
• 1:24:46
  And they
• 1:24:49
  devised a plan as they move forward. The American lines were moving forward to get them out of there before they got there and try to rescue them, and they did.
• 1:24:56
  They did.
• 1:24:58
  But when you read those kind of stories
• 1:25:00
  and you realize, of course, the Japs were
• 1:25:03
  trying to kill the Americans,
• 1:25:05
  they're murderous bunch. Why? They are.
• 1:25:08
  Their well, their religion
• 1:25:10
  was pagan. It was Babylonian. They called it Shintoism.
• 1:25:13
  People Hinduism,
• 1:25:14
  Shintoism,
• 1:25:15
  Mormonism,
• 1:25:16
  Islam,
• 1:25:17
  Judaism,
• 1:25:19
  Christian Science, Jehovah Witness.
• 1:25:21
  It's all just isms and schisms and that it all results
• 1:25:26
  in hellacious behavior
• 1:25:28
  because different law giver, different god, different religion, different god, different god, different law giver, different law giver, different law.
• 1:25:35
  And there's only two choices.
• 1:25:37
  Either either
• 1:25:38
  the law of god fundamentally says dominate my land and care for it according to my law.
• 1:25:45
  And the the Babylonian law says dominate the other fella, you can get money out of him. That's the way you live. That's the law of the city. That's Edom.
• 1:25:53
  Edom was all about, well, just wanna dominate men. That's why their Muhammad was a desert bandit.
• 1:25:59
  He didn't produce anything, he stole things.
• 1:26:02
  And the
• 1:26:03
  Ishmaelites,
• 1:26:05
  when Jacob was sold in
• 1:26:08
  when Joseph was his brother sold him into slavery in Egypt,
• 1:26:12
  they noticed a band of traders called Ishmaelites.
• 1:26:17
  What were Ishmaelites? They were traders.
• 1:26:19
  They made money off other people
• 1:26:22
  selling things that were had no value.
• 1:26:25
  No value.
• 1:26:27
  That's what that's what false religion does today. It wants to sell things and get money, sell things that has no value. Pornography,
• 1:26:36
  opiates,
• 1:26:38
  diamonds.
• 1:26:39
  Diamonds have industrial value, but they sell them in a form that does not have value.
• 1:26:44
  Unknown: Or gold. Gold has industrial value. What's that, Roger? Go ahead. No. Was just gonna say I was flashing on the fact that there's, they say they're just vaults and vaults and vaults of diamonds in Russia.
• 1:26:55
  Unknown: Yeah. And they have a a value that our common law calls it a leotory contracts.
• 1:27:01
  Contracts to buy things that just take your money and don't give you anything in return but a good feeling.
• 1:27:07
  Movies, pornography,
• 1:27:09
  stuff like that. Diamonds,
• 1:27:11
  you know, make you feel it's a feeling you're looking for. You're not looking for
• 1:27:15
  Unknown: They they always wanna control emotions, and they create illusions out of controlling emotions
• 1:27:21
  and equivocation of words. It's a it's a whole little deal. It's like I said, why do you think the most famous
• 1:27:27
  magicians in history were all Jews?
• 1:27:30
  Well, that's yeah. It's a culture of of of culture of lies. So coming back with of of illusion, I like to think of it as. As illusion. It's just a simple illusion.
• 1:27:40
  Unknown: We call them and the law calls them illusion
• 1:27:44
  illusionary contracts.
• 1:27:45
  Well, coming back to the question, I'm I needed to come back to hate. I'm sorry. Once you no. You did. You
• 1:27:51
  didn't do this, Roger. I'm just trying to come back. You're you're bringing up good points. But coming back to
• 1:27:58
  love, once you see the magnitude,
• 1:28:01
  the the depths of the riches going down and the magnitude going up of what God's love is,
• 1:28:09
  well you see it so big you can't grasp it, then compare that everything else. Everything else, Larry,
• 1:28:16
  is hate.
• 1:28:18
  That's the point. So when you say there is a comparison, yeah, I agree with that and that I think that when we look at those two words,
• 1:28:25
  one fellow said this for example,
• 1:28:30
  Jacob I have loved, Esau I have hated reveals
• 1:28:34
  covenantal preference.
• 1:28:35
  In other words, for purposes of the covenant,
• 1:28:39
  he chose Jacob.
• 1:28:41
  But understand too, if you're not part of the covenant, what's the covenant? That's the trust settlement.
• 1:28:46
  Covenants are Latin catch all word for contracts but
• 1:28:50
  the law of promises and a trust settlement is a species of the law of promises,
• 1:28:55
  but remember those that are not within that trust settlement
• 1:28:59
  are going are going are the objects
• 1:29:02
  of God's
• 1:29:03
  unlimited
• 1:29:05
  righteous
• 1:29:07
  terminal
• 1:29:08
  forever
• 1:29:09
  vengeance.
• 1:29:11
  So there that that element is there. Don't kid yourself.
• 1:29:14
  So you say comparatively,
• 1:29:16
  yeah, it looks that way,
• 1:29:18
  but understand God hates.
• 1:29:20
  He makes some vessels that Paul the apostle says, some persons
• 1:29:24
  for the purposes of total annihilation.
• 1:29:28
  Who are they? That's not mine to know.
• 1:29:31
  It's mine to get the word out
• 1:29:34
  to get the gospel out. What's the gospel?
• 1:29:36
  It's that God
• 1:29:39
  rescues,
• 1:29:41
  enlivens men out of hell
• 1:29:43
  and gives them a life of decency they can enjoy through his law,
• 1:29:48
  Following his will.
• 1:29:51
  Following his will. The laws of nature and the laws of nature's God.
• 1:29:56
  So yeah, there's a difference but I don't want to say that hate is just a matter of comparison because the objects, if you're not the object of God's agape, you are the object of his
• 1:30:07
  hate
• 1:30:09
  and his hate
• 1:30:11
  is terminal.
• 1:30:12
  That's true and to deny that is to try to gloss over
• 1:30:18
  the fact of the matter because we don't understand or where our guts just don't want to accept it.
• 1:30:23
  And that is why what Larry,
• 1:30:26
  why we have Zionism
• 1:30:28
  and dispensationalism
• 1:30:31
  versus what the founders of America had, they called it covenantal theology.
• 1:30:35
  The Presbyterians
• 1:30:37
  were called the covenanters.
• 1:30:39
  What does that mean? That means they understood the trust settlement of God. They made it the forefront
• 1:30:44
  of who they are
• 1:30:46
  and we are the recipients of that and we're riding on the coattails of that without understanding the connection and that won't work forever.
• 1:30:56
  So it's getting back to that connection, that back to that understanding,
• 1:31:00
  hoping for a critical mass of Americans
• 1:31:03
  that understand the hard truths that they that that that understand that the fact of the matter if it's not accepted whether or not you understand it.
• 1:31:13
  God will destroy
• 1:31:15
  those that do not accept
• 1:31:16
  the evidence
• 1:31:18
  and the evidence is overwhelming.
• 1:31:20
  What is the evidence? The foremost evident, all evidence is oral.
• 1:31:24
  On all evidence there if it's recorded, it's the oral evidence recorded
• 1:31:30
  and God has given us his oral evidence recorded and there's nothing more reliable in writing.
• 1:31:37
  No record that is more reliable has proven more reliable
• 1:31:42
  than the record of these
• 1:31:43
  these documents we call the bible.
• 1:31:47
  Somebody else,
• 1:31:49
  Unknown: Roger, was trying to I believe nobody's ever disproved anything. People have gone over there, lived in that part of the world skeptical to try and make it their life's work to disprove the bible. I don't believe anyone's ever succeeded, have they, Brent?
• 1:32:02
  Unknown: No. I
• 1:32:04
  and I say if I can find something in the bible as an assertion of fact that is false,
• 1:32:11
  well, having pried that brick out of the wall of the bible, you the whole wall will come down. That has never been done to my knowledge and I've been looking for almost fifty
• 1:32:21
  years.
• 1:32:22
  Unknown: Saw a video the other day of a guy over in Sodom and Gomorrah going through, and it's just rubble, you know, the piles and stuff. Mhmm. Or, like, mounds of
• 1:32:33
  rubble or just turn to dirt. Anyway, he could take and just take a piece of dirt out of there or something and light it and it burn.
• 1:32:41
  Unknown: Yeah. Sulfur
• 1:32:43
  and magnesium
• 1:32:44
  and fire from heaven and it says came down. Now Yeah.
• 1:32:48
  That that evidence,
• 1:32:50
  that is evidence, but that's not the best evidence.
• 1:32:53
  As our common law would say, the best evidence is the written record. Yes.
• 1:32:57
  Unknown: But that's way you you get people's attention with that kind of stuff and then direct them to the written record. Mhmm. Mhmm.
• 1:33:06
  Larry's trying to say something. I also wanted to say about the crossing of the Red Sea.
• 1:33:12
  And there's all video on. They have found all that stuff at the bottom of the Red Sea. On a mound where the on each side, it's deep,
• 1:33:21
  and there was some sort of a
• 1:33:24
  toward in that area, a bridge, a a dirt bridge or something where it wasn't as deep,
• 1:33:30
  and the things they found there just all indicate a crossing and the exactly like the biblical description. It's incredible.
• 1:33:37
  Also, since I've just saw one more of,
• 1:33:41
  Edward Zawar, the guy who used to be on Real News with, Rick Wiles.
• 1:33:46
  Mhmm. Him and his
• 1:33:49
  team, well, they've gone over and found where the where the ark is on Mount Arrak. Mhmm. Mhmm. And all that stuff, there's I mean, it's incredible. It's all there. Larry, I'll shut up. Larry?
• 1:34:03
  Unknown: Yeah. So the the
• 1:34:06
  the verse I was referring to is found in Luke fourteen twenty six where Jesus says, if any man come to me and hate,
• 1:34:14
  there's Greek word, missio. That's the same Greek word used
• 1:34:19
  where it says, Jacob have I loved and Esau have I hated. So if any man come unto me and hate not his father and mother,
• 1:34:27
  he cannot be my disciple.
• 1:34:30
  So I'm taking that to mean that
• 1:34:33
  we need to have a greater preference for the things of God
• 1:34:37
  over the things of men because surely
• 1:34:40
  Jesus does not mean we should literally despise our parents,
• 1:34:44
  but that our our love and devotion toward him should be greater. So do you agree with that?
• 1:34:50
  Unknown: Oh, substantially because clearly the law of God says honor thy father and mother. Yeah. And it says a lot more about that. So the law of God
• 1:34:59
  figures in and there's not it's not that you water that down and water this down then put them together.
• 1:35:05
  Both are absolutely
• 1:35:06
  true. Everything the bible says is 100%
• 1:35:09
  true.
• 1:35:10
  It's the false hermeneutic that and this is what people do by
• 1:35:14
  nature.
• 1:35:15
  They say, well the bible says this here but over here it says this so let's water the two down and put them together and we'll believe it that way. No. No. No. Both of them, if there are clear assertions,
• 1:35:26
  they're absolutely true.
• 1:35:28
  Well, let's read that verse again.
• 1:35:31
  If any man I'll lead to King Jimmy's version. He'll see what his boys say. If any man come to me and hate not his father and mother and wife and children and brethren and sisters, yea and his own life also even himself,
• 1:35:46
  he cannot be my disciple.
• 1:35:48
  What's he saying?
• 1:35:50
  He's saying that the first commandment is to be followed.
• 1:35:54
  The love of God is to follow the commandments.
• 1:35:57
  Thou shall have no other gods before me.
• 1:36:00
  Thou shall love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, with all thy soul,
• 1:36:05
  with all thy mind. That's repeated in the bible
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  and and and that's that's the first five commandments.
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  By the way, the fifth commandment is included in the first five to summon up love the Lord thy God. Love, what do do? Well you do what he says there in those first five commandments and then love thy neighbor as thyself. Well what does that mean? That means you do what the second five commandments say.
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  Now
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  the question then is how do you interpret this when you find verses
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  as you pointed out?
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  Obviously,
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  do you hate yourself? Will you how much do you hate yourself? It says there also you gotta
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  gotta love Jesus Christ
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  and
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  not your own self.
• 1:36:51
  In other words, all love all love
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  has to go to him and all loyalty. There's no loyalty to anything else or any body else even your own wife. People say I'm loyal to my wife. The bible tells you don't do that. You see it right here.
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  Become to me hate not wife.
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  Again, what does that mean?
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  Well that means that obviously you obey
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  God
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  above all other things
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  and all other men including yourself
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  and all other women.
• 1:37:25
  But then you follow if you love
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  if you love God, you will do what? You'll do the law of God toward them. So when you say that that this word means that, that's why I say I substantially agree but always
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  this takes a little contemplation.
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  Otherwise,
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  you
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  might fall into error. But I have learned by the way, Larry, just from my own experience
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  that this verse is really really really true.
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  I can give personal testimony to it.
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  You gotta
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  Jesus Christ demands denial of all things. It's an ultimate
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  ultimate
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  calling.
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  And if
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  you follow this calling,
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  what does it mean to love
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  Jesus Christ? It means you do
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  what his law
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  tells you to do.
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  And if you do that,
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  your family, many of your family will hate your guts
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  because you'll make them feel more guilty. It's not you don't have to say anything much.
• 1:38:31
  You just find those that are closest and would be closest to you. Kith and Kim will hate you.
• 1:38:37
  That's a reality of the Christian life.
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  Christian life is, you know, you get excited. I've
• 1:38:43
  met a couple of fellows down here at the Walmart
• 1:38:46
  not too long ago and they were so excited and they had bumper stick couple of Bubba's,
• 1:38:51
  young fellows, old beat up pickup truck.
• 1:38:54
  They're all excited. They were Christian folk and they were going to church and passing out tracks and,
• 1:39:00
  of course, that's that's exciting. That's like having a
• 1:39:05
  girl with young love. All of a sudden you, wow, I found I found the answer. Here's what I should should devote my life to.
• 1:39:13
  But then the adversity will come and you'll begin to wonder.
• 1:39:18
  You know, the the revolution we call it, the American war for independence from Britain. The the the confederates, well, they were all excited when they they first went to war. Oh, well, whoop these yanks and all. No. It didn't work out that way.
• 1:39:32
  And the same thing was true
• 1:39:35
  Same thing is true of a lot of people that march into battle. They may win
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  in the end,
• 1:39:42
  but life is warfare. The Christian life is warfare
• 1:39:46
  and
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  you're to deal with family and friends that hate you, if that doesn't happen, well you're not living a Christian life. There's something wrong.
• 1:39:54
  Your your commitment is not what Jesus Christ says it to be.
• 1:39:59
  I'm glad you brought that up but yeah. The word the word there for hate needs to be understood in light of
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  this is my conclusion.
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  All Greek words of the New Testament
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  must be understood in light of the Old Testament words and concepts.
• 1:40:16
  Just looking into the Greek language won't always get you there, I've discovered that. These Greek words here are good
• 1:40:23
  and there we can pay close attention to them
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  but
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  God intends of course, they're this is
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  seen in the light of the fundamental of all the bible which is the first five books, the law of God and the concepts that are there. And this statement,
• 1:40:43
  Jacob I have loved and Esau I have hated
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  comes from a Hebrew text.
• 1:40:50
  And that's not a problem. I'm just saying it's important to understand it that way.
• 1:40:55
  Did God bless Esau?
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  Boy, did he bless him with descendants,
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  millions upon millions,
• 1:41:02
  hundreds of millions of descendants.
• 1:41:04
  And God said, I will bless Esau
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  in that way.
• 1:41:11
  So it's not that he and can do
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  descendants of Esau or some of them Christian? Are there Palestinian Christians? Well, without question. Yep. We discover that. So it's not that he hates them all in the sense he's gonna send them all to hell,
• 1:41:27
  but let's come down to the bottom line, the overarching principle here.
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  Without Jesus Christ,
• 1:41:34
  a man is doomed. A woman is doomed.
• 1:41:38
  You say, I don't understand all this you're talking about Brent. Well, just understand this. Without Jesus Christ,
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  you're
• 1:41:46
  bound for hell.
• 1:41:48
  I didn't say that. The bible says it over and over and over and over. Now I got two choices.
• 1:41:54
  I can believe what the left wing wackos and
• 1:41:58
  I call it Christa dumb people tell me, d u m b, or I can believe what the book clearly says. I'm going with the book. I hope you do too. That's the evidence.
• 1:42:08
  You know, you're talking Roger about the Dead Sea and I have one one more sentence if you'll allow me. All the evidence out there about Sodom and Gomorrah,
• 1:42:18
  well, that's all true and good. But a man ought to be able to come to the point at some point. Life's too short. The only evidence I'm interested in is this book and applying it to the laws of nature. Somebody,
• 1:42:29
  Unknown: said something. Yeah. Somebody's trying to get in. Who is that, please?
• 1:42:33
  Unknown: It's Christian.
• 1:42:35
  Unknown: Oh, yeah, Christian. Brent,
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  I wanna thank god for you, Roger Sales, and Paul. And
• 1:42:43
  what was that that God rained down on the sodomy? Y'all said it would it would light you'd light a match on the dirt. That was a sulfur and what?
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  Magnesium.
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  Magnesium. Yes.
• 1:42:55
  Yeah. There there just it's not topsoil around the Dead Sea there. It's salt. It's little tiny particles of salt from magnesium,
• 1:43:03
  and now you you just put a a match to them or cigarette lighter, and and you know that stuff burns hot, Roger. Remember thermite from 09:11?
• 1:43:12
  Unknown: Uh-huh. That's magnesium.
• 1:43:15
  I believe correct me if I'm wrong, Brent. I think given that's the only place on Earth that those two were found in that concentration together?
• 1:43:23
  Unknown: That I've ever heard of.
• 1:43:25
  And I do know I was taught this when I was working
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  for uncle Sam on the other side of the world that
• 1:43:34
  if a magnesium
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  ever catches on fire,
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  the only thing you can do is throw it in water, but that won't that'll get it out of your way. Yes. But that but it won't stop burn. No. It'll still burn underwater.
• 1:43:46
  Yeah. 4,000 or better than 4,000 degrees Fahrenheit is what I remember.
• 1:43:51
  Unknown: Cutting. They used to block I said nine eleven. It was it was designed
• 1:43:55
  and put on those, beams and stuff to cut those beams of the Twin Towers.
• 1:44:00
  Uh-huh. You saw the result?
• 1:44:02
  No.
• 1:44:03
  We had a Darryl, our flyboy,
• 1:44:06
  used to be around here years ago,
• 1:44:09
  and he had the distinction
• 1:44:12
  of flying the first flight into LaGuardia
• 1:44:15
  after 09:11. Do you remember him telling that story, Brent? Yep. Uh-huh. And he flew over, and he said he looked down. He could still see the pools of molten
• 1:44:26
  material
• 1:44:26
  at the bottom of that pit as he flew over.
• 1:44:30
  Hey, Roger. Well, to be
• 1:44:32
  Unknown: be precise,
• 1:44:34
  I'm looking. 5,610
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  degrees Fahrenheit.
• 1:44:37
  That's what it burns at. Somebody somebody wants in. Think that's Paul. I think that's our boy, Paul. Yes, sir? Yeah. I got two things.
• 1:44:47
  Unknown: People often
• 1:44:49
  mistake
• 1:44:50
  the ingredients for thermite.
• 1:44:53
  They think that
• 1:44:55
  magnesium is a part of it,
• 1:44:58
  but
• 1:44:59
  what
• 1:45:00
  thermite is
• 1:45:02
  is a mixture of iron and aluminum oxide
• 1:45:06
  powders.
• 1:45:08
  And the reason you need to use magnesium
• 1:45:11
  is because the it takes a tremendous amount of heat to ignite the iron and aluminum oxide powders.
• 1:45:19
  So they ignite magnesium,
• 1:45:21
  and then it gets the job done.
• 1:45:23
  I see. I see. That's the whole scoop about that. Don't forget to talk about commonlawyer.com.
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  Unknown: I know it's damn defective.
• 1:45:32
  Need to have Brett too. We'll take a little drum roll here and give Brent the microphone as if he hadn't had it all day to go ahead and tell people. Maybe there's some folks out there that are just becoming aware of you, Brent.
• 1:45:43
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  Unknown: and my name is Brent Allen Winters. Go ahead. Boy, are we honored and happy to have him aboard for many, many years now. I don't even know we both lost count.
• 1:52:43
  Probably around thirteen or so. Over 10. I know that. Over 10. Yeah. We've had shows where Brent
• 1:52:50
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  Unknown: And it was crystal clear just like today. It's amazing. Amazing. It is amazing, Roger. Yeah. And then broadcast all over the world while we're at two ends of the Yeah. Two different hemispheres.
• 1:53:08
  And
• 1:53:09
  Unknown: So, any questions or comments here? Got a minute or two left.
• 1:53:15
  Anyone?
• 1:53:18
  Did we drive y'all all off or what?
• 1:53:23
  Listen to that. Wow. It's like, yeah, I I liken this to dropping the rock down the well.
• 1:53:30
  Mhmm. And it just never hits bottom.
• 1:53:33
  Unknown: Okay.
• 1:53:34
  Unknown: I unmuted one and muted the other. Wait. Yeah. Mean, I knew Thank you, Larry. I knew we could make one of them guilty enough to come forward. Hi, Murr.
• 1:53:43
  Unknown: Hi.
• 1:53:44
  Yeah. Thank you, Larry. I love you. I love you bringing this up as you did because I've heard it elsewhere too.
• 1:53:50
  Now, Brent, you went into it, like, more than twenty minutes talking about love, but the question was about can God hate?
• 1:53:58
  Unknown: That's right. Good
• 1:54:00
  point. Good point. He wants us to understand love
• 1:54:03
  in light or hate in light of his love and you can't and that's why they come together sometimes.
• 1:54:10
  You can't understand
• 1:54:12
  one without the contrast to the other. You know, the ancient Greeks even knew this and the bible does this
• 1:54:18
  nonstop.
• 1:54:19
  It's built on this principle.
• 1:54:21
  To understand the meaning of a word is put in parallel with its opposite
• 1:54:26
  or its synonym depending upon what but but you compare and contrast both compare synonyms
• 1:54:32
  and contrast words. There's no other way I should say maybe better, the best way to learn the meaning of words is through comparing and contrast comparison and contrasting.
• 1:54:43
  The hate of God in the end is as vicious,
• 1:54:48
  as terminal,
• 1:54:49
  as vengeful,
• 1:54:51
  as the love of God is beautiful on the other end. There's no question about that in the final analysis.
• 1:54:58
  But
• 1:54:59
  at the same time, I had a fellow. I've told this story before. He had a mother.
• 1:55:03
  I was in school with him, and his mother was a hooker.
• 1:55:08
  And he was a
• 1:55:10
  Mexican.
• 1:55:11
  He lived in Los Angeles.
• 1:55:13
  I remember saying that he was from, the Sonora
• 1:55:18
  there.
• 1:55:19
  The people there are tall. There's a tribe of people there, very tall. He was a big, big, great, big tall fellow. His mother was a hooker.
• 1:55:27
  And I
• 1:55:29
  was talking to him once. He said, well, I went out and I saw a book in the back of an old pickup truck that was abandoned near to where I live. And in the book, I said, maybe this is something that I could give to my mother
• 1:55:42
  that would
• 1:55:43
  open her eyes
• 1:55:45
  to the truth of the gospel.
• 1:55:48
  And
• 1:55:49
  I said, well, why are you interested in doing that? We were in our twenties back then.
• 1:55:54
  He said, well, I'm trying I've been trying to figure a long time how to show honor to my mother. She's headed for terminal destruction.
• 1:56:01
  If the way it looks to me and I wanna communicate the truth to her and I'm trying to find a way to do that.
• 1:56:08
  Is there hate there? Well, yeah. God says clearly.
• 1:56:13
  You don't have to explain this.
• 1:56:15
  Paul the apostle
• 1:56:17
  says it clearly over and over in Romans chapter
• 1:56:20
  eight and nine
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• 1:56:23
  Jacob I loved, he saw, I've hated before the boys had the opportunity to do good or evil. Remember, God didn't elect you to be choose you to be Christian
• 1:56:32
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• 1:56:34
  you did some meritorious thing that gained his favor.
• 1:56:38
  That's not the gospel. The gospel is you did nothing.
• 1:56:42
  Nothing in my hand I bring only to thy cross I cling. Other refuge have I none.
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  Hangs my helpless soul along one.
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  That's Jesus Christ.
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  Now there's nothing we can do. It's all of they say of grace.
• 1:56:56
  That my friends
• 1:56:58
  is the protestant reformation
• 1:57:01
  and anything else is a damnable lie from hell.
• 1:57:04
  And boy, people will say anything and do anything. You know, the great controversy
• 1:57:09
  during the when the reformation came up, it was it it kinda sparked off there with Martin Luther, you know. Then he got into a a debate back in them days. No TV, television, or radio. And people wrote
• 1:57:22
  in a public way and fought in public
• 1:57:25
  about things like that. And Erasmus
• 1:57:28
  was the Roman priest on the other side of this point that we're talking about the sovereignty of God.
• 1:57:34
  And Luther
• 1:57:36
  is was a Calvinist.
• 1:57:39
  Came after Luther.
• 1:57:42
  Lutheranism
• 1:57:43
  was Calvinism
• 1:57:44
  to start.
• 1:57:45
  And after Luther passed away, Melancton
• 1:57:48
  took over and he trashed he trashed the god's sovereignty is what he did, and Lutheranism never
• 1:57:55
  recovered.
• 1:57:56
  And Martin Luther recognized that when he got older. He said, I nothing I've said at foundation
• 1:58:03
  have the Saxon people continued with. Well,
• 1:58:07
  he was right. I'm gonna stop talking so the whistling can go on. I wanna finish. Well, let me say Murr and Murr, I appreciate you bringing it up and trying to zero in. And also, Larry, let me finish my comments if I may.
• 1:58:20
  Unknown: Yeah. We'll be finished with the tail out here, the exit in just a second. We'll say thank you, Brent, as always, and how much we
• 1:58:29
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• 1:58:40
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• 1:58:41
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• 1:58:44
  It's just interesting how we met, how this has developed, and,
• 1:58:48
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• 1:59:05
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• 1:59:16
  but we try and be regular and consistent here and get the Lord's message of freedom out
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  And we're glad you're with us, and we love all of you. So well, I'll have a good Alright.
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  We'll
• 1:59:29
  we'll see you soon. Hold on. This is about done, and we can talk. Yep.
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  Yes, sir.
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  Unknown: Yeah. This Jerry
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  Unknown: g Garcia calls bad New Mexico. Jerry. Hey, man. I was thinking about you a minute ago when Brent was talking about New Mexico.
• 1:59:45
  Unknown: New Mexico. I heard it.
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  Yeah. He was making a comment on that
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  Camino Real
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  and my greatest grandfather
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  in 1680
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  took about a thousand or plus people
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  from
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  Albuquerque
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  back all the way to El Paso on the Camino Real.
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  Unknown: Okay. So you got one over there too. Uh-huh.
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  Cool.
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  Unknown: Mhmm. No. Thank you. No. It's just a real deal. And the kit it's called the King's Highway, but it's not obviously as Spanish king in the bible. But king,
• 2:00:25
  better translated in that context, emperor,
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  the law of the city highway.
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  But
• 2:00:32
  we're getting back to the sovereignty of God. Again,
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  there the
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  Protestant Reformation occurred because Rome denied that reality.
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  And to put it more succinctly,
• 2:00:44
  what Rome said and still says is this.
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  It says that when our grandpa Adam
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  knowingly,
• 2:00:51
  and it was knowingly,
• 2:00:53
  his wife, it was not knowingly.
• 2:00:55
  What she did when she partook for the fruit, she was hornswoggled and that's why Paul the apostle makes the point that the female of our species has less discernment
• 2:01:05
  than the male.
• 2:01:06
  And so she she and because god made her that way strengthened her in other ways, of course, that the male doesn't have. But because god made her that way,
• 2:01:19
  mankind did not fall into depravity when she partook of the fruit.
• 2:01:23
  But when Adam did it, he knew better. He he wasn't hornswoggled.
• 2:01:27
  He just wanted to go along, get along with his wife for, I think, some obvious reasons.
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  He thought he thought she was quite the gal, but,
• 2:01:35
  he partook that plunged us in, the race of Adam
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  into
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  total, not partial,
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  total depravity.
• 2:01:45
  And the reformation of of the well, what we call they call it the reformation. It wasn't a reformation of anything. It didn't reform anything.
• 2:01:53
  It was just recognizing the truth of the bible fundamentally.
• 2:01:57
  What's the truth? The men are
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  were
• 2:02:01
  Adam's race is put into depravity by what he did, and we can't even imagine.
• 2:02:08
  We get glimpses as we get older of how bad it is. Oh, it's awful.
• 2:02:12
  We'll come to
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  Rome and Babylon. The doctrine of Babylon is that when Adam fell on the in the garden,
• 2:02:23
  he he fell to neutrality,
• 2:02:25
  not depravity.
• 2:02:26
  Now this is fundamental. This was the this is Martin Luther and Erasmus in the early days and they were fighting in public and writing profusely.
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  And
• 2:02:37
  Luther finally said publicly,
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  he said, Erasmus, I appreciate you
• 2:02:44
  because you
• 2:02:46
  have identified
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  the hinge
• 2:02:49
  upon which the door turned between us. What was it? Erasmus took the the Babylonian view. He's a Roman priest.
• 2:02:58
  And he said, no man is not totally depraved.
• 2:03:01
  He still has the power of choosing
• 2:03:04
  choosing truth.
• 2:03:06
  And Luther said, no.
• 2:03:08
  The Bible is clear.
• 2:03:10
  The only thing he can choose is choose among evil. He can never choose truth and and and
• 2:03:17
  a way that produces that it not produces. No. No. That's not it. That in a way that exemplifies
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  his
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  his election.
• 2:03:26
  He can't man
• 2:03:28
  cannot elect for himself. We had an old preacher at home, knew him well, liked him.
• 2:03:33
  Old Fred,
• 2:03:35
  he said the election of the bible, he said this, one time preaching, I remember.
• 2:03:40
  He said the election of the bible is god votes for you,
• 2:03:44
  the devil votes against you,
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  and you
• 2:03:47
  cast
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  the
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  the deciding vote. Yeah.
• 2:03:52
  That is not true. Not even a little. The bible never says that. The bible says just
• 2:03:58
  just the opposite in this this sense that
• 2:04:00
  god always wins. Law never wins. That's the meaning of Israel. He cast the deciding vote and that's why Paul the apostle says that. And when people say then Paul the apostle anticipating,
• 2:04:13
  they're in Romans anticipating the response
• 2:04:17
  says you those of you who would deny this, who are you? Who do you think you are
• 2:04:22
  to answer back against against god?
• 2:04:25
  God has said it. It's clear as crystal in the Old Testament. I'm repeating it here.
• 2:04:31
  You
• 2:04:32
  don't have that authority.
• 2:04:35
  The Bible has spoken.
• 2:04:37
  God has spoken
• 2:04:39
  and he says he makes some vessels
• 2:04:41
  to honor
• 2:04:43
  and others to dishonor.
• 2:04:45
  I don't profess to know to explain that.
• 2:04:48
  My
• 2:04:49
  point of view is and I'm trying to get this across, the bible is ultimate evidence.
• 2:04:55
  And if it asserts a truth,
• 2:04:58
  a fact,
• 2:05:00
  then there is no way and there is no evidence to contravene it, and there is none.
• 2:05:04
  I haven't seen any.
• 2:05:06
  Then, even in the bible,
• 2:05:09
  then why wouldn't you accept it?
• 2:05:12
  And the reason men don't accept it in my you know, I have take it from the bible. I take it from the bible. It says men don't accept the truth because they're
• 2:05:21
  they're rebellious against God. Now during the reformation, this happened.
• 2:05:26
  Erasmus wouldn't accept that truth.
• 2:05:29
  And Martin Luther then eventually from that
• 2:05:32
  those public exchanges he had with Erasmus,
• 2:05:36
  he wrote a book
• 2:05:37
  called bondage of the will, a big thick book.
• 2:05:40
  Bondage of the will.
• 2:05:42
  And in that book, he shows biblically
• 2:05:47
  that if a man is not born of the spirit,
• 2:05:51
  he has freedom of choice among evil.
• 2:05:55
  Even if it looks good, it's still
• 2:05:58
  got a pound of his flesh in it, therefore it's evil. He cannot ultimately choose,
• 2:06:03
  recognize
• 2:06:05
  that Jesus Christ has chosen him.
• 2:06:08
  You know, Christianity is not you choosing
• 2:06:11
  and then you become a Christian. Christianity is you recognizing finally
• 2:06:16
  that God has given you the new birth just like a baby who was born of the flesh.
• 2:06:21
  Finally recognizes he has self existence and then he recognizes
• 2:06:25
  dada and then he he recognizes even before that mama.
• 2:06:29
  And then he begins to accept his own existence who his father is.
• 2:06:34
  That's the way Christianity is. You
• 2:06:36
  you're born from above and then you either
• 2:06:39
  you you you recognize it. The light comes on. You begin to have a self realization.
• 2:06:44
  And then from that over
• 2:06:46
  decades,
• 2:06:47
  if you live that long, confidence builds
• 2:06:51
  about the fact that god truly is your father. He has truly given you this the the spiritual birth and you truly have the confidence to charge ahead
• 2:07:00
  and not worry about the future, it is fixed.
• 2:07:04
  God has established you as his child and that's it. And the callings of God says the bible are without repentance. He'll never change his mind. And the bible says that in many other ways as well.
• 2:07:16
  Once you're a son of god, you're a son of god, period.
• 2:07:20
  And no matter how rotten you get, people say, well, I can really do something bad and not be a Christian anymore. No. You can't do that. You didn't you didn't become a Christian by doing something good.
• 2:07:32
  You can't undo your Christianity by doing something bad. But god what god will do if you do something bad,
• 2:07:39
  you're his son, his daughter. He'll slap you into next Sunday until you straighten up. And if you don't straighten up, he'll just kill you and take you home. And I can point to the Bibles and show where that's happened.
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  That's what would happen to you. This is an ultimate to read this one. Right? Go ahead. Yeah. Go ahead. Read it.
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  Unknown: I just Jerry, g Garcia. I just want to read this one Yeah. Before I go. Yeah, Jerry. Go ahead. Galatians Galatians five five thirteen.
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  You, my brothers, were called to be free.
• 2:08:11
  We did not use your freedom to indulge in the sinful nature.
• 2:08:16
  Rather, serve one another in love.
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  Unknown: You go. Great, Jerry. Thanks, Jerry.
• 2:08:23
  Unknown: Appreciate it. In other words, do what god says tell you to do what god tells you to do. Obey his law toward one another,
• 2:08:29
  Christian folk.
• 2:08:31
  And I obey try to obey god's law when I raised my children. I did things to them that they didn't like and I didn't like to do
• 2:08:39
  and I deal with that even right now. They asked me things or asked me for things, should I give them everything they asked? The answer is absolutely not.
• 2:08:47
  Well that hurts feelings sometimes
• 2:08:50
  but I am bound by my master.
• 2:08:53
  I'm responsible.
• 2:08:54
  I will answer.
• 2:08:56
  I'll pay the consequences if I don't do what he says and it is my
• 2:09:01
  my chief goal in life. I hope it's yours. I wanna know what he what he's commanded me to do and that means I must pay attention. I must remind myself. I must look. I must be in the book
• 2:09:13
  daily
• 2:09:15
  and I
• 2:09:16
  commend that to you as well. It gives you a great enjoyment.
• 2:09:20
  It gives you a confidence
• 2:09:22
  about your own salvation.
• 2:09:24
  You know, God saved us, but
• 2:09:27
  are we truly
• 2:09:29
  is our future so secure
• 2:09:31
  that we can afford to go out and take chances and maybe make mistakes. So that's an understood. We will make mistakes, but our future friends is secure.
• 2:09:41
  If your if your future is not secure,
• 2:09:44
  then you
• 2:09:45
  you're afraid and you don't wanna do anything.
• 2:09:48
  You'd be like the Jews. Oh, don't pronounce the name of God. Don't do that. You might make a mistake and you might, oh, fear.
• 2:09:55
  Fear. Fear. Fear. You're afraid. Afraid. Afraid.
• 2:10:01
  Then you don't step out. Hey, Roger.
• 2:10:03
  Unknown: Well, anyway, go ahead. Somebody someone to get there. Yes, sir.
• 2:10:09
  Unknown: Hey. It's Doug.
• 2:10:11
  Douglas.
• 2:10:12
  Can you hear me? Two days in a row, man. Yeah. Wow.
• 2:10:17
  I know. I know. Well, I
• 2:10:20
  have
• 2:10:22
  time.
• 2:10:23
  The,
• 2:10:24
  so this is addressed to Brent, especially.
• 2:10:30
  The way I you know, all
• 2:10:32
  of these scriptural
• 2:10:36
  conversations,
• 2:10:37
  they
• 2:10:39
  spark
• 2:10:41
  my life of
• 2:10:43
  years I've been in scriptures,
• 2:10:46
  and
• 2:10:47
  I was just thinking,
• 2:10:52
  the word depravity
• 2:10:53
  is a
• 2:10:54
  it's a word that
• 2:10:57
  indicates doom.
• 2:11:00
  No way out,
• 2:11:01
  this kind of thing. But
• 2:11:04
  I was thinking,
• 2:11:05
  so what is
• 2:11:07
  an ultimate
• 2:11:08
  remedy?
• 2:11:11
  And
• 2:11:11
  in my way of thinking, it's
• 2:11:14
  to love the Lord your God
• 2:11:17
  with all of your heart,
• 2:11:20
  soul,
• 2:11:21
  mind, and strength.
• 2:11:24
  I think the father honors that when it's sincere.
• 2:11:29
  And
• 2:11:31
  although that's a decision
• 2:11:33
  that's based upon scripture to do that,
• 2:11:37
  we're not
• 2:11:38
  without help.
• 2:11:41
  He will make that happen if that is one's sincere
• 2:11:47
  desire
• 2:11:48
  to do that.
• 2:11:50
  So
• 2:11:51
  in my way of thinking,
• 2:11:53
  this is the ultimate way out or way in
• 2:11:59
  and remedy.
• 2:12:03
  Unknown: Yes. And I don't disagree. No. I don't disagree. And God
• 2:12:07
  gives you that desire. You don't work it up in yourself.
• 2:12:11
  With a new birth comes the new heart, the new mind, the new heart is the new desire.
• 2:12:15
  He gives everything to us and and it will happen.
• 2:12:18
  And then we have as under the new birth, we have the ability to choose what is right. We have freedom to choose among many choices that are wrong
• 2:12:28
  that when we're not Christian folk after the new birth,
• 2:12:32
  there is the true freedom. That's why Jesus Christ says, if the son makes you free,
• 2:12:39
  you know, where he gives you the new birth, you are truly free. Oh, you have freedom before that. You can choose a lot of things. You can you choose to reject truth, you choose this, you choose that, but there's a pound of selfishness in everything you choose
• 2:12:52
  and it's all evil as the bible says, even the plowing
• 2:12:57
  of the wicked man, the wrong headed man is sin.
• 2:13:01
  He can't do anything right even when it looks right. People ask me about, well should I
• 2:13:07
  was an elder in church,
• 2:13:08
  should I take advantage of the Shriners Hospital?
• 2:13:11
  My daughter has a problem, it had to do with her back
• 2:13:16
  and
• 2:13:18
  he said, are the Shriners Christians? I said, well obviously
• 2:13:21
  the shrine is not Christian, it's Babylonian.
• 2:13:25
  But do we do good things in the sight of men and that help hold the world together and the answer is yes. Non christian folk do a lot of good things
• 2:13:34
  but here's the point and Barnhouse used to say this a lot is absolutely right, it's about the bible.
• 2:13:41
  There are a lot of good things that we do, non christian men do that are good in the sight of other men,
• 2:13:48
  good for their families, good for them in the short term in this life,
• 2:13:53
  but not good in the sight of God.
• 2:13:56
  Because
• 2:13:58
  the non christian man or woman in the sight of God
• 2:14:02
  is the object of his hate as we're pointing out while ago. That means the object of his terminal
• 2:14:09
  vengeance.
• 2:14:11
  That's what the book says. Now the our forebearers here in America used to make much of that and they'd say
• 2:14:17
  well, the most famous I'll give you an example. The most famous
• 2:14:20
  sermon ever preached to America was preached by the second president of Princeton College.
• 2:14:26
  His name was
• 2:14:28
  Jonathan Edwards called the greatest mind America ever produced.
• 2:14:32
  He preached about
• 2:14:34
  10
• 2:14:36
  sisters that he was like a little doll to him. They had him reading Latin and Greek by the time he was five years old. He was you know teaching him those things and he read so much that his eyes were really bad.
• 2:14:47
  By the time he pastored, he was Presbyterian, went to Princeton
• 2:14:52
  and
• 2:14:54
  and he preached a sermon called sinners in the hands of an angry God.
• 2:14:59
  God
• 2:15:00
  uses many things to bring his elect to himself,
• 2:15:04
  but one of the things he uses is fear.
• 2:15:06
  Fear of hell.
• 2:15:08
  And
• 2:15:09
  when you tell people
• 2:15:11
  as we tell the whole council of God and this is getting right to the bottom, it's the ultimate question when the sovereignty of God meets the will of man, well who's sovereign here? Well God is. The Bible is clear.
• 2:15:25
  But he uses fear of hell to bring his elect to himself and Jonathan Edwards
• 2:15:30
  who was the last of the great
• 2:15:33
  Puritans in America among the last and he preached that sermon from the Puritan point of view of he was a Presbyterian.
• 2:15:40
  Presbyterians
• 2:15:41
  have the same point of view as the puritan point of view about election.
• 2:15:45
  No, we're just, what does the bible say?
• 2:15:48
  And he went to a verse and the verse was this,
• 2:15:52
  their foot shall slip
• 2:15:54
  in due time.
• 2:15:56
  Speaking of Israel, God speaking in the old testament
• 2:15:59
  and he pictures the man that's not born from above
• 2:16:04
  hanging because the bible uses this picture
• 2:16:07
  hanging over the gaping maw of hell
• 2:16:12
  by a thread
• 2:16:14
  and the judge of heaven heaven and earth who is Jesus Christ according to the bible
• 2:16:19
  has a pair of scissors as it were
• 2:16:23
  right around the thread
• 2:16:25
  and he's hanging over the maw
• 2:16:28
  of hell, the flames and the opening and shutting of the mouth of hell.
• 2:16:33
  How precarious is the position? That's pretty precarious.
• 2:16:37
  And God uses fear
• 2:16:39
  sometimes a lot.
• 2:16:41
  Not always, but sometimes. He use anything he wants to bring people to himself. He'll use compassion.
• 2:16:48
  He'll use love. He'll trigger it any way he wants even emotion.
• 2:16:52
  And that was Jonathan Edwards'
• 2:16:54
  view also and he wrote a book on that called of religious
• 2:16:58
  affections.
• 2:16:59
  Long story behind why he wrote that book.
• 2:17:03
  So my friends, I say to you,
• 2:17:06
  I'm not here making stuff up. It's not like I'm not in good company of men much smarter than myself for centuries who have said these things and really all they've said is, well we've decided to to trust what the bible says and not what the pope of Rome says. That's really all it amounted to
• 2:17:22
  And that's what I'm doing here. I'm saying, well, I can trust the leader of the largest pedophilia ring in the world or I can trust what the book said. Yes. Somebody's speaking. Dougie again.
• 2:17:32
  Unknown: I was,
• 2:17:34
  yeah,
• 2:17:35
  another
• 2:17:36
  experience I had as a baby Christian
• 2:17:39
  just
• 2:17:40
  maybe a year after I was delivered,
• 2:17:44
  I was
• 2:17:45
  sitting on a floor with six
• 2:17:48
  other,
• 2:17:49
  quote, Christians,
• 2:17:51
  and we were praying,
• 2:17:52
  young people in our twenties.
• 2:17:55
  And
• 2:17:56
  all of a sudden, a a a very evil, malevolent thought came into my mind,
• 2:18:03
  and I wasn't aware of spiritual warfare or anything at the time.
• 2:18:08
  And I so when this happened,
• 2:18:12
  I went to my heavenly father, and I said,
• 2:18:16
  where did that come from?
• 2:18:19
  And
• 2:18:21
  the message I got back was not all thoughts are your own
• 2:18:25
  and just
• 2:18:27
  ignore it.
• 2:18:30
  And
• 2:18:31
  that stuck with me and is still with me today that not all of our thoughts are our own. And
• 2:18:40
  as I grew up, I taught this aspect
• 2:18:43
  from time to time.
• 2:18:45
  And it's just
• 2:18:47
  all of our thoughts. And just like I said,
• 2:18:51
  love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength.
• 2:18:54
  We're also supposed to
• 2:18:57
  control our thoughts
• 2:19:00
  Unknown: to Yes. And though come here. Glad you brought that up. Yeah. Go ahead.
• 2:19:05
  Oh. Well, I was gonna Yeah. Can I add to what you were saying at this point? Yeah. I I get your point and the reason those thoughts, they're not always our own. The reason they creep in
• 2:19:17
  according to the bible is because of our sin,
• 2:19:20
  our weakness as mortal
• 2:19:23
  creatures.
• 2:19:25
  We're weak
• 2:19:26
  and so we're in a position where we are to fight and we're told how to fight and sometimes that fight can become physical. Sometimes it's just in your mind, know you talk to people that go into high discipline
• 2:19:39
  training and they'll tell you this isn't about my body, this is about my mind. It is.
• 2:19:45
  The ultimate battle is in the mind even that controls your body that's why Paul the Apostle says,
• 2:19:51
  tearing down the fortresses
• 2:19:53
  of your mind that are the strongholds he says, of the mind
• 2:19:58
  bringing every thought
• 2:20:00
  captive
• 2:20:02
  to Jesus Christ.
• 2:20:03
  So you have this benevolent thought come
• 2:20:06
  because of weakness, something that happened before in your life, whatever, it's there.
• 2:20:11
  And we are to bring all of those thoughts, throw them out. Martin Luther put it this way and again, I'm not a Lutheran, I don't want to be a Lutheran, but Martin
• 2:20:19
  had a lot of stuff wired. He wasn't perfect either. He used to say it this way, as a Christian man I can see the birds flying overhead
• 2:20:28
  but I don't let them nest in my hair
• 2:20:33
  and that's the way thoughts are.
• 2:20:35
  A benevolent thought
• 2:20:37
  can fly through your mind and
• 2:20:40
  like a bird
• 2:20:42
  you don't grab it and coddle it if you do and of course you can.
• 2:20:47
  You're free at this point. You're really free. You can choose evil or good, see, at that point. See Adam in the garden, listen to me, Adam in the garden had the freedom to choose right
• 2:20:57
  and wrong
• 2:20:59
  and once he fell, he didn't have any choice but wrong.
• 2:21:03
  He had choice, a lot of choices but none of them were really good in the sight of God
• 2:21:08
  and when you're made free and now you have that choice again, you have the freedom to choose what is right and if those thoughts fly through your mind,
• 2:21:17
  I
• 2:21:19
  let them go. Get them out. Don't don't bring them in and and and try to enjoy them and and slobber over them. If you do that,
• 2:21:27
  it'll get worse. It will grow.
• 2:21:29
  Unknown: Well,
• 2:21:30
  the Well, the weapon I used Go ahead. Frank, the weapon I used
• 2:21:36
  for
• 2:21:37
  well, I I suppose I still do it today, but as a young man,
• 2:21:43
  I poured
• 2:21:45
  and memorized
• 2:21:46
  just hundreds of verses of scripture
• 2:21:50
  that were applicable
• 2:21:53
  to
• 2:21:56
  protecting myself and and operating
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  under the will of the scriptures.
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  Unknown: Well, and I agree with you and the bible says that. How shall a young man protect his way? I'm quoting the Psalms.
• 2:22:10
  How shall a young man protect his way?
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  But comma,
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  here's the answer,
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  by
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  chewing the cud, by chewing God's word
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  like cud. Now the King Jimmy's boys say by meditating on thy law.
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  Is that true? Yes, but that word meditate is not what that really means.
• 2:22:31
  That's a Latin word. Meditation today of course produces pictures
• 2:22:37
  of people sitting in the lotus position with their legs crossed,
• 2:22:41
  trying to contemplate their belly button till they think they cease to exist.
• 2:22:45
  Unknown: While they're on.
• 2:22:47
  Yeah.
• 2:22:49
  Unknown: That's silly stupidity.
• 2:22:50
  Worse than that, it's dangerous.
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  A teacher one time, he was he was enamored with the Quakers
• 2:22:58
  and
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  he wanted us to read a book by a Quaker and we read the book, a very popular book, don't remember the name of it.
• 2:23:06
  But this Quakers idea is you've got to empty your mind or God won't talk to you. See Quakers believe that God talking to you while you're silent is more important than reading the bible, they've always believed that. They believe there's a spark of goodness in you. So if you can get in touch with your own self,
• 2:23:24
  again contemplate your own belly button. No no no friends, you do that, all you're doing is making it worse because you're depraved.
• 2:23:32
  You know I should say as a Christian,
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  haven't
• 2:23:35
  you're you're imperfect,
• 2:23:37
  you're
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  you're dangerous, you're mortal.
• 2:23:41
  God gives us something objective that's better than us and what is it? It is the words of Jesus the Christ,
• 2:23:48
  the sovereign God and maker of all things,
• 2:23:51
  reduced to the span of a man so we understand him. And the answer is
• 2:23:56
  to chew the word of God like cut. I watched the cattle. I got a cattle now. I still do this. Did it when I was a kid and I'm still doing it. I want we had a calf the other day. I'm watching the calf.
• 2:24:06
  And the calf I said, when is the calf out nibbling? Pretty soon they're out nibbling on on weeds. Then I saw that little calf sitting down the other day.
• 2:24:15
  Just sitting down, laying down, you know how they could do,
• 2:24:18
  chewing cud.
• 2:24:20
  I said, well, that little guy
• 2:24:22
  that little guy has eaten enough. He's chewing cud. That's good. That's good. But what I noticed about his mother and the bull and the other cattle,
• 2:24:31
  when you sit and you get close to him, you watch him eat, boy, they're woofing it down like dogs woof down meat.
• 2:24:36
  They don't chew much of nothing.
• 2:24:38
  And they got their tongue going. They're raking that grass in as fast as they can all day long and then in the hot of the day and then in the evening they go sit down or lay down
• 2:24:48
  and they bring it all back up one ball at a time and chew it.
• 2:24:52
  And that's why the bible uses the word, the Hebrew word that means chew cud.
• 2:24:57
  That's
• 2:24:58
  why it says Joshua
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  one verses eight and nine, God said to Joshua,
• 2:25:04
  the commander in chief of the 12 militias of the 12 several tribes of Israel.
• 2:25:09
  Now just on the eve of going into battle to conquer the land, split it down middle,
• 2:25:14
  divide and conquer.
• 2:25:16
  And God says, if you
• 2:25:19
  chew the cud of
• 2:25:22
  my word
• 2:25:23
  day and night, if that's all you've got on your mind,
• 2:25:27
  then wherever your foot will go, you will conquer. See, there's the land and the conquering the land and bringing it under subjection to God's law, making it productive. That's what that was all about. But he said,
• 2:25:38
  you can do that fundamental thing. If
• 2:25:42
  the word of God dominates your mind. Well, there's only one way that can happen.
• 2:25:46
  You take it in like we're doing right here. We're talking about it. We're getting reminded I'm saying things, other people are saying things.
• 2:25:53
  Now it's in the minds of some of the listeners
• 2:25:56
  and they will
• 2:25:58
  regurgitate it, bring it back up
• 2:26:00
  like a cow does and chew on it.
• 2:26:03
  And if you've got the word of God in you to any degree and it keeps coming back up and you keep chewing on it when you're driving your car, when you're kinda neutral,
• 2:26:13
  and it'll come to mind.
• 2:26:15
  Instead of a rock and roll song coming to mind. Roger, last night a song came to mind that I learned when I was a kid. I heard it a lot. It was such a it was from the nineteen twenties, but it was such a good song. It just hung on. Yeah. Even when I was I knew the words of it, and then the song was five foot two eyes are blue. Yeah. I know what those blue eyes are. Can
• 2:26:36
  Can do. Has anybody seen that my That My gal. Yeah. And that was going over. I and I get up in the morning, I'd hear that tune. I'd say doggone it. See, if you get something g I g o, garbage in garbage out. This is the way our minds work and god knows that. So if you get things in,
• 2:26:54
  you will meditate on them whether you want to or not even. And you get Those the bible and if that becomes a dominating force, it will become what you do with your hands and what you say with your tongue. Go ahead, Roger. Your subconscious seems to deliver you some of those old songs. I particularly like the songs from the twenties and the thirties and the lyrics and the melody lines. They're Mhmm. Fantastic.
• 2:27:17
  Unknown: Yeah. And, yeah, often that comes to my mind even lately. It's funny you should say that.
• 2:27:23
  Unknown: I forget Well, I use I've been on my mind, but I've had one of those on my mind here lately. So I use that as an illustration Well as an illustration of how our minds work, and god knows that. That's why he tells us to chew his word like cud, but you gotta get it in. Yeah. To regurgitate it and chew it. Yep. Yep. Yep.
• 2:27:42
  Unknown: Hey. Listen. Somebody One more thing if if it's okay
• 2:27:47
  Yeah. That I'd like to mention from
• 2:27:50
  I like you say a lot of times, Brent, you know, it's this is my testimony,
• 2:27:56
  firsthand witness testimony.
• 2:27:59
  Mhmm. So
• 2:28:01
  when I was delivered, then I won't go into the experience,
• 2:28:04
  but to me, it was miraculous.
• 2:28:07
  And Mhmm. So then I got into this
• 2:28:11
  what was ended up being, probably was in the beginning, an occult ministry
• 2:28:17
  going to the national. Well, anyway,
• 2:28:20
  you know, I told you about me sitting there praying with a bunch of people, and I had this thought come into my mind. Well Mhmm. From the beginning,
• 2:28:32
  it became a very personal thing with me
• 2:28:35
  that
• 2:28:37
  my initial experience was personal
• 2:28:40
  with
• 2:28:41
  the true god.
• 2:28:43
  And Mhmm. In spite of a a rather large ministry,
• 2:28:48
  you know, the campus first campus I was on, there were probably 500
• 2:28:53
  people there.
• 2:28:54
  But Mhmm.
• 2:28:56
  My
• 2:28:57
  goal
• 2:28:59
  from my deliverance became I wanna know you,
• 2:29:03
  God.
• 2:29:04
  I this is this is my goal, to know more and more and more of you.
• 2:29:11
  Mhmm. And
• 2:29:13
  during
• 2:29:14
  years,
• 2:29:16
  I
• 2:29:17
  learned about a word called
• 2:29:19
  efficacious.
• 2:29:22
  And as I
• 2:29:24
  studied it and
• 2:29:26
  tried to understand it, my understanding,
• 2:29:32
  was that
• 2:29:33
  it's to go along, to get along, it's to be like everybody else,
• 2:29:38
  this type of thing.
• 2:29:40
  And
• 2:29:42
  but because I never stopped
• 2:29:46
  my goal,
• 2:29:47
  my
• 2:29:48
  motivation
• 2:29:49
  to know the God that created me, that delivered me
• 2:29:54
  Mhmm. I just
• 2:29:55
  I was able to stand independently
• 2:30:00
  in spite of
• 2:30:04
  I,
• 2:30:05
  through a number of circumstances,
• 2:30:07
  became
• 2:30:09
  affiliated with the founder
• 2:30:12
  and president of this ministry.
• 2:30:16
  Uh-huh.
• 2:30:18
  But because of
• 2:30:21
  setting
• 2:30:23
  a rule for myself that
• 2:30:25
  this was I'm I'm looking for you, father.
• 2:30:29
  I wanna know you,
• 2:30:31
  and I know that
• 2:30:33
  I'm not always right. Other people are gonna be in this powerful ministry.
• 2:30:41
  These things were not able to sway me
• 2:30:45
  even
• 2:30:46
  with threat
• 2:30:47
  of which had happened to me many times of being thrown out of this thing because I stood up to authority
• 2:30:56
  and
• 2:30:56
  things that I understood scripturally
• 2:30:59
  to be totally wrong.
• 2:31:01
  And I just think that's the point I wanted to make here is it has to be personal.
• 2:31:08
  Yeah. People have heard, you know, when you end up going before the judge,
• 2:31:12
  nobody's gonna be able to stand there and say, oh, but he you know, I know him. He forgive him or whatever.
• 2:31:19
  Mhmm. So, anyway, that's my message here.
• 2:31:23
  Unknown: Well, freedom freedom of choice is the chief characteristic of what freedom is.
• 2:31:29
  Freedom is I'm free to choose, but if you're not born by God, your your free your choice is limited
• 2:31:35
  to what is
• 2:31:36
  what is has a town of flesh in it, it's never enough to please God, you only choose evil.
• 2:31:42
  Freedom of choice is you can choose good. So in that situation,
• 2:31:46
  it has to be personal. There is no other kind of choice but personal.
• 2:31:50
  So you chose.
• 2:31:52
  Now whether you were right or wrong, you had the freedom to choose. If you were born from above, you did.
• 2:31:57
  Now
• 2:31:58
  was it something that was producing evil or was just a doctrinal
• 2:32:03
  question?
• 2:32:04
  Of course, doctrine always produces evil, I suppose. No. There were there were things
• 2:32:09
  Unknown: as I got into the headquarters.
• 2:32:12
  Well, I went through their elite training four year
• 2:32:16
  thing.
• 2:32:18
  I had to confront
• 2:32:20
  leaders
• 2:32:21
  because I was just a peon, but I had to confront leaders. I had to administer to people
• 2:32:28
  who were abused by leaders.
• 2:32:30
  And then as I got to the top
• 2:32:32
  of this thing being,
• 2:32:35
  like I say,
• 2:32:36
  the pet,
• 2:32:37
  my I was in a gospel quartet.
• 2:32:40
  So this was the founder's idea.
• 2:32:43
  He did it. I went through a contest. I won
• 2:32:48
  a
• 2:32:49
  part, as a quartet.
• 2:32:51
  And,
• 2:32:53
  so as I got up there,
• 2:32:55
  attacks
• 2:32:56
  upon me,
• 2:32:59
  fabricated happened,
• 2:33:01
  and
• 2:33:03
  I knew all the wives of the founders
• 2:33:06
  and all this stuff. And
• 2:33:08
  Mhmm. So the evil presented itself
• 2:33:13
  to me
• 2:33:15
  because
• 2:33:16
  my
• 2:33:17
  allegiance was to my heavenly father and
• 2:33:20
  savior.
• 2:33:22
  So Mhmm. It wasn't
• 2:33:25
  hard to see it,
• 2:33:27
  but
• 2:33:28
  so many sheep
• 2:33:31
  just went along and yes,
• 2:33:33
  man, and all this. So it was Mhmm. Rather complicated.
• 2:33:38
  There was I mean, they
• 2:33:40
  there the the
• 2:33:43
  top men,
• 2:33:44
  not only of at the headquarters,
• 2:33:47
  but at in every state,
• 2:33:50
  they were raping women.
• 2:33:52
  Unknown: And and Okay. What created That's what I wanted that's
• 2:33:55
  what I wanted you to get to because I knew if they're here I was
• 2:33:58
  I made this point. If there's false doctrine,
• 2:34:01
  false religion has its perversion of sex, it's gonna come to that.
• 2:34:06
  And there are many different kinds. And so But so you saw it and your situation was kinda like go ahead. Go ahead. You're Go Go ahead and say it. Sorry. Well,
• 2:34:14
  Unknown: I'll just finish. You know? So they even it was so bad
• 2:34:18
  that they hired an obstetrician
• 2:34:21
  to deliver
• 2:34:22
  the babies
• 2:34:24
  so that nobody would know. It was That's insane. You know, attempted murders,
• 2:34:30
  all this stuff.
• 2:34:31
  Unknown: Yeah. Yeah.
• 2:34:33
  Unknown: Not a new got away from that, buddy. Yeah. Were you gonna say something, Robbie? No. I was gonna say glad Doug got away from that. We, we we I labeled Doug years ago the man of few words. Well
• 2:34:46
  Unknown: yeah. No. I get your point. Became a defender. I became a defender of the scripture of of my
• 2:34:53
  savior and my god Mhmm. In this thing. There was just Oh, yeah. You know, these
• 2:35:00
  truths And your story. That is this, you cannot
• 2:35:05
  no. Of course not. But these truths,
• 2:35:09
  they are they they cannot be
• 2:35:12
  our well, our father, love him with all your heart above everything else.
• 2:35:17
  So if that is living
• 2:35:19
  in a man or woman's heart,
• 2:35:22
  when you see
• 2:35:23
  debauchery
• 2:35:24
  or any other type of lie
• 2:35:27
  thing being done,
• 2:35:29
  we have no choice but to stand against it. So there's no fear.
• 2:35:33
  There's no fear there because
• 2:35:35
  we know our allegiance. We know what we're
• 2:35:39
  standing for,
• 2:35:40
  and it's the truth.
• 2:35:42
  And he who is the truth.
• 2:35:44
  Go ahead. We try and do the whole time here, Doug. Appreciate
• 2:35:48
  Unknown: it. Thank you. Roger. Doug Stokesville, one of the old time listeners. He's been around here. Yeah. Now as I like to say since old Blue was a pup. Yeah.
• 2:35:59
  So, anyway, Brent, I don't know about you. I didn't have any eggs this morning, so I didn't have I'm making eggs right now, Roger. Oh, yeah. But I'm gonna have Yeah. Yeah. Gotta go to the stove, a tienda,
• 2:36:09
  and, buy some. Okay. So and other things too and,
• 2:36:14
  whatnot, but all always thank you for being with us and hanging around and just that and the other.
• 2:36:22
  Busy guy, mister Brent Winthers,
• 2:36:24
  and, we appreciate him. So we'll look forward to seeing you next week and anticipating that. And there's no telling. I know we're we got about a month,
• 2:36:35
  maybe five weeks of really tumultuous
• 2:36:39
  activity,
• 2:36:41
  it appears.
• 2:36:42
  Unknown: Yes. And I'll leave it with this then.
• 2:36:45
  My biblical point of view, everything that's happening
• 2:36:48
  over,
• 2:36:49
  with Israel and the Palestinians
• 2:36:52
  and Iran,
• 2:36:53
  this is all
• 2:36:55
  all because of religious points of view. Religious points of view. Yep. The
• 2:37:01
  Unknown: Iranians are killing people because of their religion. They Don't forget about the Ukrainians. Them and the Russians are up there too. I think Putin's about to unleash on on them.
• 2:37:12
  Mhmm. It's what it appears.
• 2:37:14
  So, anyway, well, if it happens, then we'll talk about it next week if it's worth talking about. If not, we'll just take these
• 2:37:21
  spiritual lessons from Brent and take us back. You know, that was for the audience. That was the original meaning of, like, talk about ruminating.
• 2:37:29
  Because in the early days, Brent and I were on in the afternoon. It used to be afternoon drive.
• 2:37:35
  That was Friday afternoon to lay out things like, we want you to ruminate on this over the weekend if you've got your mind settled and whatever. So that was the original intent. We just moved the show forward a little bit. So And ruminates the Latin ruminates the Latin word for chew the cut. Yes. Yes. That's all that is. Yeah. Yep. Okay. Thank you. Alright. Thank you, Brent. We'll see you next week. Everybody else love you. May see you tomorrow. May see you soon. Whichever, we'll look forward to it.
• 2:38:02
  Unknown: Okay.
• 2:38:04
  Thanks, Brent. Thank you. Thanks, Paul.
• 2:38:10
  Unknown: Thanks, Paul's kitty.
• 2:38:12
  Ciao.
• 2:38:16
  Unknown: Bye bye.
• 2:38:26
  Unknown: Thank you, Larry.
• 2:38:28
  Again,
• 2:38:29
  your question
• 2:38:31
  answered itself.
• 2:39:06
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• 2:39:09
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• 2:39:12
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• 2:40:46
  Now,
• 2:40:48
  I'm working on cleaning and packing.
• 2:40:51
  So, I'm actually kinda hunched over like the hunchback of Notre Dame and I really can't reach my mouse,
• 2:40:57
  Move some stuff out of the way because I had to move some stuff off furniture and put it on my desk.
• 2:41:04
  So,
• 2:41:06
  before we get too crazy here, I'm just going to take this down. Let's see if I can hit this button.
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