Latest / UK Column Radio / UK Column News — 15th May 2026
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- 0:08Speaker 1: Good afternoon. It's Friday, the fifteenth of May twenty twenty six,
- 0:11Speaker 1: just after one o'clock. Welcome to the UK column News
- 0:12Speaker 1: I mean host Mike Robinson joining me in the studio
- 0:14Speaker 1: today Patrick Henningson, Welcome to the program. Patrick. Great to
- 0:17Speaker 1: be with you, Mike, and by video link we're joined
- 0:19Speaker 1: by Basil Valentine. Now in the midst of the chaos
- 0:23Speaker 1: within this starmer regime, which we'll be discussing an extra
- 0:27Speaker 1: Today's News war on a weekend of major protest upcoming.
- 0:31Speaker 1: Trump's visit to China is really threats to sue the
- 0:34Speaker 1: New York Times and the increasing militarization of Britain. But
- 0:39Speaker 1: of course we're going to begin with the fallout from
- 0:42Speaker 1: the King's speech. So here he is, and there has
- 0:46Speaker 1: been some reaction on social media, quite a lot of reaction.
- 0:50Speaker 1: It was pretty immediate and it was extremely negative towards
- 0:53Speaker 1: the King himself. And here's why.
- 1:00Speaker 2: Ministers will also proceed with the introduction of digital ID
- 1:05Speaker 2: that will modernize how citizens interact with public services.
- 1:13Speaker 1: So we mentioned the fact that that was going to
- 1:15Speaker 1: be part of the thing on Wednesday's program, but we
- 1:19Speaker 1: thought we should hear hear from the horse's mouth, so
- 1:22Speaker 1: to speak. But I want to focus on a comment
- 1:25Speaker 1: on Instagram from someone with the handle Western Order Underscore
- 1:30Speaker 1: who wrote this. He said, I'm seeing a great and sorry,
- 1:36Speaker 1: a great many negative reactions to the king speech today.
- 1:40Speaker 1: His speech outlined a lot of the things that common
- 1:42Speaker 1: British subject literally voted against. Closer ties with the EU
- 1:46Speaker 1: and digital ID is another big one. I'm seeing comments
- 1:50Speaker 1: of people calling the king a traitor, saying to abolish
- 1:54Speaker 1: the monarchy. We are again seeing the inherent weaknesses of
- 1:58Speaker 1: a constitutional monarchy where the king in practice is a
- 2:01Speaker 1: mouthpiece of the government, regardless of how unpopular it is.
- 2:04Speaker 1: The average person is seeing the king as a silent
- 2:07Speaker 1: bystander to the cultural, military, and economic subjugation and destruction
- 2:11Speaker 1: of the United Kingdom. The King is parless to actively
- 2:14Speaker 1: do anything against this, as his hands are tied. Many
- 2:19Speaker 1: call for the king to protect subjects from their politicians. Well,
- 2:23Speaker 1: how can he do that when you the people wanted
- 2:26Speaker 1: a constitution that prevented this. I'm just going to comment
- 2:30Speaker 1: on this because it's not entirely true what's just been said.
- 2:34Speaker 1: There's the comments that there are well made, but it's
- 2:37Speaker 1: not quite correct. The constitution of this country absolutely permits
- 2:41Speaker 1: the monarch to step in. In fact, the Coronation oath
- 2:44Speaker 1: demands it. Now, it's true that the Bill of Rights
- 2:47Speaker 1: sixteen to eighty nine established the so called parliamentary sovereignty,
- 2:51Speaker 1: but it did not abolish the formal power of the
- 2:53Speaker 1: monarch to withhold royal assent from any bill passed by Parliament.
- 2:57Speaker 1: No statute since then prevents the king refusing royal assent.
- 3:02Speaker 1: What blocks refusal is, first of all, a convention since
- 3:06Speaker 1: seventeen o eight, which is the last time the monarch
- 3:08Speaker 1: actually did it. But George the fourth and George the
- 3:11Speaker 1: fifth came very close and they were persuaded at the
- 3:15Speaker 1: last minute not to withhold royal assent from various bills.
- 3:19Speaker 1: There's also the dominant academic opinion that the convention has
- 3:24Speaker 1: hardened it to duty because of the length of time
- 3:27Speaker 1: since it was actually actively used. But that's just opinion
- 3:30Speaker 1: without any formal legal basis. And then there's the practical.
- 3:34Speaker 1: The practical certainly that a refusal would trigger an immediate
- 3:38Speaker 1: constitutional crisis and that could possibly end the monarchy in
- 3:42Speaker 1: its current form. So the issue for the king here
- 3:46Speaker 1: is that it's looking like his unpopularity continues to grow
- 3:49Speaker 1: and the calls to abolish the monarchy are already gaining steam.
- 3:54Speaker 1: And the issue for us the general public is that
- 3:57Speaker 1: there's no statuary restriction on him taking the action with
- 4:01Speaker 1: whole royal assent, whether it's against the digital ID bill
- 4:04Speaker 1: or whatever it happens to be. The monarchy is ripe
- 4:07Speaker 1: for a campaign, I would argue, and just in other words,
- 4:11Speaker 1: people should be making clear what's expected of them. Make
- 4:14Speaker 1: clear the consequences to him of giving royal assent to
- 4:18Speaker 1: whatever legislation Starm or whoever the Prime Minister happens to
- 4:21Speaker 1: be brings forward on digital ID, make it clear that
- 4:25Speaker 1: that might possibly mean the end of the monarchy. And
- 4:28Speaker 1: under those circumstances, perhaps there's a chance of him actually
- 4:31Speaker 1: upholding his coronation oath. That seems like the only option
- 4:35Speaker 1: to be patrick, because it seems to me that a
- 4:38Speaker 1: campaign against targeting one individual is much more likely to
- 4:43Speaker 1: succeed in one that's targeting six hundred and fifty MPs. Right.
- 4:48Speaker 3: The core issue that the commentator who you highlighted earlier
- 4:50Speaker 3: was getting at was that the monarchs being used as
- 4:54Speaker 3: a sort of public relations mouth piece for a continuity
- 4:58Speaker 3: of a gender correct specifically agenda that's just not popular.
- 5:02Speaker 3: Look at the size of the petition against the digital ID.
- 5:05Speaker 3: If there was a referendum on this, what do you
- 5:07Speaker 3: think the result was. I think it'd be overwhelmingly against
- 5:10Speaker 3: right if there was a referend But yet they're using
- 5:12Speaker 3: the monarchy to basically promote and kind of normalize what
- 5:16Speaker 3: is ultimately a very unpopular technocratic agenda being pushed rammed
- 5:22Speaker 3: down the public's throat by the government.
- 5:24Speaker 1: Absolutely basil briefly, if you got any thoughts on this.
- 5:29Speaker 4: Well, Charles looked rather displeased with the whole process, didn't they.
- 5:33Speaker 4: Apparently he wanted to do the King's Speech by zoom,
- 5:37Speaker 4: but that wasn't allowed. Yeah, it's a uniquely unpopular agenda.
- 5:42Speaker 4: It was supposed to be saving Starmer's premiership. It was
- 5:47Speaker 4: his final role of the dice after his disastrous speech previously,
- 5:52Speaker 4: and again it's.
- 5:53Speaker 1: Back and fired.
- 5:54Speaker 4: It hasn't worked at all, of course, and there's nothing
- 5:57Speaker 4: in it that people voted for that people want, and
- 6:00Speaker 4: hence the rolling crisis in his leadership, which looks increasingly
- 6:04Speaker 4: likely to see him going within the next couple of months.
- 6:08Speaker 4: As soon as any Burnham gets a seat.
- 6:10Speaker 1: If he gets a seat, but we'll talk more about
- 6:12Speaker 1: that an extra Okay, Patrick, Let's move on to international
- 6:16Speaker 1: affairs for a moment then, and well, of course, the
- 6:18Speaker 1: big international event that's taking place or has just finished,
- 6:21Speaker 1: is Trump's visit to China.
- 6:23Speaker 3: That's right, this is what is dominating the international headlines
- 6:26Speaker 3: right now. Let's take a look at this. I mean,
- 6:28Speaker 3: the thing I'm looking at straight away here is the entourage.
- 6:31Speaker 3: Trump arrived with this massive entourage that included all of
- 6:34Speaker 3: the captains of industry, big tech, all of the bankers,
- 6:38Speaker 3: Larry Fink from black Rock, the CEO Blackstone, also Jensen Huang,
- 6:45Speaker 3: the CEO of Nvidia, and it was a real show
- 6:47Speaker 3: of force. And you know, the thing that struck me
- 6:50Speaker 3: about this, Mike, was that why would you bring a
- 6:52Speaker 3: show of force if you're a US president? I mean,
- 6:55Speaker 3: isn't your office enough? So this is a president at
- 6:58Speaker 3: his absolutely weakest EBB maybe in history of the US president,
- 7:03Speaker 3: having to arrive that insecure. And what are those all
- 7:06Speaker 3: those tech CEOs and Tim Cook and Elon Musk, what
- 7:09Speaker 3: are they really there for? It's they're not there to
- 7:13Speaker 3: entice China to come to the US. They're there to
- 7:16Speaker 3: beg China for access to the Chinese market. It's pretty clear.
- 7:20Speaker 1: Because China has restricted access to some.
- 7:23Speaker 3: Of those participants increasingly so and in response to tariff
- 7:28Speaker 3: wars by Trump and other sanctions by the US, so
- 7:32Speaker 3: they have the nerve to bring in this. Not only
- 7:35Speaker 3: that some of the Cabot members here. We'll just show
- 7:37Speaker 3: you a scene here. Some of the Cabot members that
- 7:40Speaker 3: did show up to this are. You know, here's Mark
- 7:42Speaker 3: or Rubio. This is quite amusing here, but you can
- 7:46Speaker 3: see Rubio, heg Seth, Scott Bessett, some of these, Steve
- 7:51Speaker 3: Miller and Rubio seems to be enthralled here with the ceiling.
- 7:55Speaker 3: It's like his first visit to civilization. Here, he says, look,
- 7:59Speaker 3: doing a sort of Kim Jong Un impression. They're pointing
- 8:02Speaker 3: at things there. He is talking to having a little
- 8:06Speaker 3: chin wag there with his fraternity brother, the Secretary of
- 8:09Speaker 3: War Pete hag Seth. I mean's really embarrassing. And you know,
- 8:12Speaker 3: why would you bring the Secretary of War to a
- 8:15Speaker 3: Chinese state visit. That's just uncalled for. And Scott Bessett,
- 8:18Speaker 3: the Secretary of Economic Warfare, i e. The Treasury. He
- 8:22Speaker 3: just laid sanctions against China, so that's totally inappropriate to
- 8:27Speaker 3: bring these types of cabinet people to a state visit.
- 8:30Speaker 3: It shows you hound security. Now look at this here,
- 8:32Speaker 3: we'll bring this up on screen. This is Trump. Watched
- 8:35Speaker 3: the handshake. You see that Trump's trying to pull G's
- 8:39Speaker 3: hand and she is resisting. The trick to power handshake
- 8:42Speaker 3: Trump always pulls. He puts his hand palm up and
- 8:45Speaker 3: then pulls his hand towards him. G basically pushed back,
- 8:50Speaker 3: you can see.
- 8:51Speaker 1: So that was me.
- 8:52Speaker 3: I mean, imagine that the US president trying to pull
- 8:55Speaker 3: one a power move, a Tony Robbins handshake, power move
- 8:59Speaker 3: on Jiji. I mean that kind of shows you where
- 9:02Speaker 3: Trump is just in general here, but you can see
- 9:06Speaker 3: just the back to the clip here, there's the whole
- 9:09Speaker 3: pageantry of it. And that's really what Trump got out of.
- 9:13Speaker 3: This is a photo op, because that's all there is
- 9:16Speaker 3: to get out of this is the photo op. It
- 9:18Speaker 3: is a fantastic photo op. It's a state visit. Everyone
- 9:22Speaker 3: he brought with him in his entourage is owing him
- 9:24Speaker 3: a favor in perpetuity because he introduced them to the
- 9:27Speaker 3: Chinese government. Basically, so that's big political capital for Trump here.
- 9:32Speaker 3: But anyway, bottom line, Mike is Straits of Hormuz. Trump
- 9:37Speaker 3: was hoping for something, didn't get anything. He came out
- 9:41Speaker 3: claiming that China wants the straits open. But the straits
- 9:44Speaker 3: are open for China, that's the thing. They're just not
- 9:47Speaker 3: open for the US. And it's proxies. It's golfare of proxies.
- 9:50Speaker 3: The other thing he said is China doesn't want Iran
- 9:52Speaker 3: to avenuke. Trump is relaying private conversations. We don't know
- 9:57Speaker 3: what the context of that is. Position with Visa vit
- 10:01Speaker 3: Iran is pretty clear. Everything is in line with international law,
- 10:04Speaker 3: and everything in the US is doing with Israel is
- 10:07Speaker 3: outside of international law. That's the bottom line.
- 10:09Speaker 1: There.
- 10:10Speaker 3: Rare earth minerals, no announcements on that, no trade deals,
- 10:15Speaker 3: no promises of Chinese investment into the US economy, none
- 10:18Speaker 3: of that. So really there's not a lot there. And
- 10:21Speaker 3: the last thing I'll say, Mike is that you know,
- 10:22Speaker 3: you look at the Trump administration's US government's orientation towards China.
- 10:27Speaker 3: Since Trump's first term, it's been about decoupling from China.
- 10:30Speaker 3: It's been about anti globalization. And here he is basically
- 10:34Speaker 3: saying we want to be partners. Let's be partners. So
- 10:37Speaker 3: there's two There's a huge contradiction there. So one says,
- 10:40Speaker 3: one wonders if this is just rhetoric for optics, is
- 10:45Speaker 3: any sincerity there. But China's Jiji Ping said something. He said,
- 10:49Speaker 3: we don't want to be caught in Thucididi's trap. Now
- 10:53Speaker 3: that is very sophisticated geopolitical discussion going on there, and
- 10:58Speaker 3: I dare say that went right over the head of
- 11:00Speaker 3: Trump and heg Seth and company. They don't even know
- 11:03Speaker 3: what through cdity's trap is. It's when it's the theory
- 11:06Speaker 3: and realist international relations where a rising power threatens the hedgemon,
- 11:10Speaker 3: and the hedgemon will attack the rising power to maintain
- 11:12Speaker 3: their hegemonic status. And that's what Jijiping was trying to
- 11:16Speaker 3: sit warn against. He said, we don't need to go.
- 11:18Speaker 1: Down the Trump Excuse me that Trump has been threatening effectively.
- 11:22Speaker 3: Constantly and everybody in his administration. So Marco Rubio said
- 11:26Speaker 3: on the plane on the way there, on an interview,
- 11:27Speaker 3: he said, well, a China can rise, but not at
- 11:30Speaker 3: the expense of US national interests. We can't fall. If
- 11:33Speaker 3: China our fall can't be a result of China's rise.
- 11:37Speaker 3: US is going to fall regardless of whether China rises
- 11:39Speaker 3: or not because the thirty nine trillion dollars in debt.
- 11:42Speaker 3: And that's because of all the bankers that Trump brought
- 11:45Speaker 3: with him on the Air Force one. They've sucked the
- 11:47Speaker 3: American economy dry. Right, there's nothing left. It's a carcass.
- 11:51Speaker 3: So if America falls, it's it's America's own fault. It's
- 11:54Speaker 3: not China's fault. I can tell you that right now.
- 11:57Speaker 1: But we have one video clip here.
- 11:59Speaker 3: Oh well, yes, yes, this is almost forgotten, Mike. So
- 12:03Speaker 3: here's this was a huge takeaway. So Fox sent there
- 12:05Speaker 3: on tourage to interview Trump. This is what Trump said
- 12:09Speaker 3: in the interview in Beijing.
- 12:10Speaker 1: Listen to this. We don't we don't need it at all.
- 12:14Speaker 5: We don't need it at all.
- 12:15Speaker 1: Fair enough.
- 12:16Speaker 5: So I mean you could make the case, you know,
- 12:19Speaker 5: like why are we even We're doing it to help
- 12:22Speaker 5: Israel and to help Saudi Arabia and to help Qatar
- 12:26Speaker 5: and UAE and you know, Kuwait and other countries Bahrain.
- 12:32Speaker 1: It also helps China.
- 12:34Speaker 5: We're actually I told him today, I said, you know,
- 12:36Speaker 5: we're helping you and we're helping you in another way
- 12:39Speaker 5: because I don't think they want I don't think China
- 12:42Speaker 5: wants a ran to have a nuclear weapon either. I said, this,
- 12:47Speaker 5: don't go crazy. You don't need them having a nuclear weapon. Say, well,
- 12:52Speaker 5: he's not going to respond to my he's a pretty
- 12:54Speaker 5: cool guy. He's not going to say, oh gee, that's
- 12:56Speaker 5: a good point, I think.
- 13:00Speaker 1: Do you think he agreed? Yeah? I think I was.
- 13:03Speaker 1: I don't think he wants him there. No, he would
- 13:05Speaker 1: like to see an end.
- 13:08Speaker 5: But he's been good about it.
- 13:10Speaker 1: You know, he's been good about it.
- 13:14Speaker 3: So you don't know what if this is all in
- 13:17Speaker 3: Trump's head or if this conversation actually happened. But the
- 13:20Speaker 3: key point there is he said, we did it to
- 13:22Speaker 3: help Israel. We waged a war against Iran to help
- 13:25Speaker 3: Israel and the Gulf States. That's on record. I would say,
- 13:28Speaker 3: if the US President says that on record, let's just
- 13:31Speaker 3: say that's part of historical record. So that's admission right
- 13:34Speaker 3: there from the US President that they went to war
- 13:36Speaker 3: against Iran, all of the economic damage that's come with
- 13:39Speaker 3: it for us around the world as well as people
- 13:42Speaker 3: in America, to help Israel. Pretty clear. Any any arguments
- 13:47Speaker 3: or is Benjamin att Yahoo would say class any questions class,
- 13:51Speaker 3: So anyway.
- 13:52Speaker 1: No questions here, right, Okay, let's let's move back to
- 13:55Speaker 1: the UK. Then come back to the UK. And of
- 13:57Speaker 1: course tomorrow is going to be a significant day for
- 14:01Speaker 1: London with the opportunity for serious civil unrest, so that
- 14:04Speaker 1: the on the one hand we have the Tommy Robinson
- 14:08Speaker 1: led United the Kingdom March, but if we just bring
- 14:10Speaker 1: this on screen, we've got a massive policing operation. We've
- 14:13Speaker 1: got the two marches going on Unite the Kingdom on
- 14:16Speaker 1: one hand. We've got Palestine solidarity campaigns KNACBAS seventy eight
- 14:21Speaker 1: March from Palestine on the other hand, and that's being
- 14:24Speaker 1: billed as you know, united against Tommy Robinson in the
- 14:28Speaker 1: far right. Now, the respect of roots that the marches
- 14:31Speaker 1: will take are designed to keep the two events separate,
- 14:33Speaker 1: but they'll end up less than a mile apart. So
- 14:36Speaker 1: there's got to be some opportunity there for anybody that
- 14:39Speaker 1: wants to kick anything off. The United Kingdom March has
- 14:43Speaker 1: stages set up in Parliament Square and the NACBAS seventy
- 14:46Speaker 1: eight March ends in Waterloo Loo Places Saint James. Where
- 14:50Speaker 1: are lots of monuments to the British Empire, and of
- 14:53Speaker 1: course that has been something that Tommy Robinson in particular
- 14:56Speaker 1: has attempted to organize people around, you know, Palestinian flags
- 15:01Speaker 1: on statues and so on. This is something that he's
- 15:05Speaker 1: attempted to incite people about in the past. But the
- 15:09Speaker 1: police response then leaves no room for doubt about their
- 15:13Speaker 1: attitude to it all. They rolled out Deputy Assistant Commissioner
- 15:17Speaker 1: James Harmon, who said, our plan involves the most assertive
- 15:20Speaker 1: possible use of our powers, including strict conditions. Thousands of
- 15:24Speaker 1: officers will be deployed taking a zero tolerance approach, supported
- 15:28Speaker 1: by specialist resources including live facial recognition, helicopters, drones, dog units,
- 15:34Speaker 1: police forces, armored vehicles and dedicated investigative teams. Will be
- 15:39Speaker 1: policing two significant and potentially challenging protests in the center
- 15:43Speaker 1: of the city, as well as the FA Cup final,
- 15:46Speaker 1: which takes place at Wembley on the same day. The
- 15:49Speaker 1: terrorism threat level, he said, has been raised to severe
- 15:52Speaker 1: and in recent weeks and months we've seen terrorist attack
- 15:55Speaker 1: and a sustained campaign of arsons targeting Jewish Londoners against
- 15:59Speaker 1: the backdrop of increasing hit crime in particular an anti Semitism,
- 16:04Speaker 1: so that has been the main commentary from the Metropolitan Police.
- 16:08Speaker 1: But they're clearly getting tooled up.
- 16:11Speaker 3: That's a lot of personnel, five thousand to be equivalent
- 16:14Speaker 3: of what they would have for a million man march
- 16:17Speaker 3: for instance.
- 16:18Speaker 1: Yeah, it's absolutely significant. Buzzle. What are your thoughts on
- 16:21Speaker 1: the police response and to the events, the two events
- 16:24Speaker 1: taking place in the same place at the same time
- 16:27Speaker 1: more or less, well.
- 16:29Speaker 4: I'm not sure how wise it was to give permission
- 16:33Speaker 4: for both marches on the same day in central London
- 16:36Speaker 4: and the Nacbus seventy eight march goes from South Kensington
- 16:41Speaker 4: up to paw Mau, while Tommy Robinson has what is
- 16:44Speaker 4: considered the more favorable route, assembling outside Houston. But it
- 16:48Speaker 4: must take exception to what the Assistant Commissioners said there
- 16:52Speaker 4: because the implication is that there is something anti Semitic
- 16:55Speaker 4: about the pro Palestine, the anti genocide marches. There are
- 17:00Speaker 4: huge numbers of Jewish people on those marches. They were
- 17:04Speaker 4: deliberately mischaracterized by Suela Braveman in her time as Home
- 17:08Speaker 4: Secretary and then by others since as so called hate marches,
- 17:12Speaker 4: which is really sinister people are calling for the end
- 17:15Speaker 4: of the mass slaughter of women, children, men for that matter,
- 17:20Speaker 4: and they had nothing to do with hatred for Jewish
- 17:25Speaker 4: people per se. But that narrative has seeped into the
- 17:29Speaker 4: police's thinking. And we'll look at what Mark Rowley said
- 17:32Speaker 4: a little bit later on in the pushback against that
- 17:35Speaker 4: calls for him to resign, which I'll be covering surely.
- 17:39Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I just want to finish off with this,
- 17:41Speaker 1: so if we bring Jim's Harmon back on screen for
- 17:43Speaker 1: a second. I thought it was quite interesting that he
- 17:45Speaker 1: said this. He said, there've been more than thirty three
- 17:48Speaker 1: large protests organized by the groups that make up the
- 17:51Speaker 1: Palistine Coalition since twenty twenty three, and I just thought
- 17:54Speaker 1: that there is more than thirty three. Does he mean
- 17:57Speaker 1: thirty four? Does he mean thirty five? If that's what
- 17:59Speaker 1: he meant, why didn't you just say that, Why did
- 18:01Speaker 1: he use make the use of a masonically significant number?
- 18:05Speaker 1: What was that meant to signal there? Patrick? I just
- 18:08Speaker 1: I just thought that was really a music.
- 18:10Speaker 3: Maybe it's just an opportunity to promote good old thirty
- 18:12Speaker 3: three once again.
- 18:13Speaker 1: They just get that out into the ether. It could be,
- 18:16Speaker 1: but Basil, let's let's come on to you then. Oh sorry,
- 18:21Speaker 1: before we come on to Basil, we've got the bands
- 18:23Speaker 1: of people because of course Patrick in the in the
- 18:27Speaker 1: lead up to this, a number of people have been
- 18:30Speaker 1: banned from entry into the country.
- 18:32Speaker 3: Yeah, well, luckily Basil brought this to our attention. Basil,
- 18:35Speaker 3: here you have the Polish MEP. What exactly has taken
- 18:39Speaker 3: place here?
- 18:41Speaker 4: A number of people have been banned from entering the
- 18:44Speaker 4: UK when quite unprecedented, both to attend and address the
- 18:49Speaker 4: Nakbar rally and also Tommy Robinson's so called Unite the Kingdom,
- 18:54Speaker 4: which actually intends to do nothing of the kind. Polish
- 18:58Speaker 4: MEP Bar Dusky I believe his name is, he's been
- 19:02Speaker 4: banned from entering the country. The you know, the rhetoric
- 19:07Speaker 4: coming out of Westminster is that these people would be
- 19:10Speaker 4: harmful to the common good. Now, I may not be
- 19:13Speaker 4: a fan of him or many others, but we're seeing
- 19:18Speaker 4: a considerable rollback here from the so called home of
- 19:23Speaker 4: free speech. This is, as I said, we've never seen
- 19:26Speaker 4: this many people banned on a single weekend before.
- 19:29Speaker 1: Indeed, now one of the names on the list was.
- 19:33Speaker 3: Gomez Valentina Gomes she's running for Congress in Texas. A
- 19:38Speaker 3: couple of failed campaigns, I think she's trying again. She's
- 19:41Speaker 3: not very popular with the general population, you can see why,
- 19:45Speaker 3: but she's very popular with Elon Musk, very popular with
- 19:48Speaker 3: Tommy Robinson, and very popular with the extreme far right. Well, how,
- 19:53Speaker 3: how and why would that be? Well, we've got to clip.
- 19:56Speaker 3: The reason she was banned, apparently, Mike is because of
- 19:59Speaker 3: a speech she gave in London in September, just this
- 20:02Speaker 3: past fall. We have a clip from that speech which
- 20:05Speaker 3: we'll show now. Here is Valentina Gomez. She's a Colombian
- 20:10Speaker 3: immigrant to the United States. Just so you know who's
- 20:13Speaker 3: been running for office unsuccessfully in the United States.
- 20:17Speaker 1: Here she is.
- 20:21Speaker 6: England belongs to the English. It's either now or never,
- 20:25Speaker 6: because if these rapists Muslims take over, they will not
- 20:29Speaker 6: only rape your women, they won't be ahead of your sons,
- 20:32Speaker 6: just like they did on October seventeen Israel. So we
- 20:35Speaker 6: either fight now or we die. And we're fighters. We
- 20:39Speaker 6: are warriors of Jesus Christ. And in the words of
- 20:46Speaker 6: the Great Charlie Kirk is let me is the sword
- 20:50Speaker 6: that the left is using to destroy Christian nations. And
- 20:54Speaker 6: to destroy every Christian nation across the world. So do
- 20:59Speaker 6: not make's with evil, destroy it. And we need a
- 21:04Speaker 6: new prime minister that has guts and that's going to
- 21:07Speaker 6: stand up for the British and said, all these rapist
- 21:10Speaker 6: Muslim Muslims and dirty rubs back to their Sharia nations.
- 21:19Speaker 6: And after what they did to Charlie Kirk, the Bay
- 21:22Speaker 6: time is over. So I will get to the United
- 21:25Speaker 6: States Congress and we will finish what Charlie Kirk started.
- 21:29Speaker 1: So help me God, I shouldn't say right well, I
- 21:35Speaker 1: mean my first reaction to that is that I would
- 21:37Speaker 1: echo what Baslo's just said about, you know, as a
- 21:40Speaker 1: principal for free speech and the fact that people have
- 21:43Speaker 1: been refused entry I think is wrong. But I think
- 21:47Speaker 1: at her kiss it comes pretty close to the line.
- 21:49Speaker 1: It has to be said.
- 21:50Speaker 3: Let me rephrase that. If she was there, and she
- 21:53Speaker 3: was let's say, a Muslim man saying that we need
- 21:56Speaker 3: to deport all the Jews because they're raping our women
- 22:02Speaker 3: and we need to I don't know if she said
- 22:04Speaker 3: kill them or defeat evil, and I mean it's really
- 22:08Speaker 3: would you be shocked or would you oppose a travel
- 22:10Speaker 3: band for her to come and speak an event. If
- 22:14Speaker 3: the tables were turned right, uh, you know, I would
- 22:18Speaker 3: say or she's saying that about killing Christians or you know,
- 22:21Speaker 3: we need to defeat the evil Christians because they're raping
- 22:25Speaker 3: our women. I think most people would probably agree right
- 22:28Speaker 3: that you could probably justify a travel band there because
- 22:32Speaker 3: of potential incitement potentially. Now, I'm all for free speech
- 22:36Speaker 3: as well, but when you're talking about thousands of people.
- 22:40Speaker 1: And are very children as well.
- 22:44Speaker 3: In an inflamed environment that's driven by a lot of
- 22:47Speaker 3: propaganda and media hype, then you're you're veering into a
- 22:52Speaker 3: different sort of place there. So let's just say there's
- 22:56Speaker 3: a debate that could be that could could happen there, right, well,
- 23:00Speaker 3: the other side that let's show the other side. So
- 23:03Speaker 3: not only are the far right being banned by the government,
- 23:07Speaker 3: but also all of the Palestinian artists, poets, filmmakers that
- 23:12Speaker 3: were due to speak at the Nakba Day of festival
- 23:17Speaker 3: and events.
- 23:17Speaker 1: Okay. Nakba is the.
- 23:20Speaker 3: Nineteen forty eight the expulsion of Palestinians by the invading
- 23:25Speaker 3: Jewish colonial settlers from Europe and the massacres, the genocide
- 23:29Speaker 3: that took place in nineteen forty eight's called the Nakba
- 23:32Speaker 3: means disaster in Arabic roughly translated, so this is Khalid Abdalah.
- 23:39Speaker 3: He played Dodi al Fayeed in the Netflix film on
- 23:42Speaker 3: Princess Diana. This is what he had to say about
- 23:45Speaker 3: the banning of Palestinians by the UK Foreign Office here.
- 23:51Speaker 7: In artists, especially during the Nakaba time to come and
- 23:57Speaker 7: perform whatever they want. It was a real painful shock
- 24:06Speaker 7: to receive news that every Palestinian artist that we applied
- 24:11Speaker 7: for visas for to come to the event commemorating the
- 24:15Speaker 7: Nagaba on the fourteenth of May at the Troxy, every
- 24:19Speaker 7: single Palestinian artist was.
- 24:21Speaker 8: Denied their visa.
- 24:23Speaker 9: That was a huge shock, painful one and one that
- 24:30Speaker 9: for me smacks of the.
- 24:35Speaker 8: Depth of the lack.
- 24:35Speaker 9: Of acknowledgment of Britain's role in what has happened to
- 24:41Speaker 9: Palestinians over the last eighty years. In my humble belief,
- 24:46Speaker 9: the Palaestinian artists should be fast tracked, specifically when they
- 24:50Speaker 9: come to commemorate the Nagaba in this country and particularly
- 24:54Speaker 9: in this moment, if Britain wants to play any role
- 24:57Speaker 9: whatsoever in the healing that needs to happen after the
- 25:03Speaker 9: genocide and to promote a better future for everyone. And
- 25:07Speaker 9: so the shortsighted blindness of the Home Office's decision is
- 25:13Speaker 9: absolutely shocking to me. We are not canceling the event.
- 25:19Speaker 9: We are postponing the event. We haven't confirmed exactly what
- 25:24Speaker 9: the date will be, who the artists will be, but
- 25:28Speaker 9: that's something that we are working on and I'm certain
- 25:31Speaker 9: going to be an even greater, better event.
- 25:40Speaker 3: So that's showing both sides of that issue here. And
- 25:43Speaker 3: we'll just bring this up on screen as well. And
- 25:45Speaker 3: just to remind people, there is a documentary called Gaza
- 25:48Speaker 3: Doctors under Attack. This was basically canceled by the BBC.
- 25:53Speaker 3: They refuse to air it. But guess what might it want?
- 25:55Speaker 3: A Bathter Award, and so the thing that the BBC
- 25:59Speaker 3: would not air bath To Award. So you can see
- 26:03Speaker 3: just the industry they're kind of outraged by this. A
- 26:05Speaker 3: lot of filmmakers, documentary filmmakers, people working in the industry.
- 26:09Speaker 3: But not just that. We'll bring this back up on
- 26:11Speaker 3: screen again. Yeah, you can see there's some footage from
- 26:14Speaker 3: the film below. It's regarded as an incredible documentary film.
- 26:19Speaker 3: I mean, this should be prime time on every British
- 26:22Speaker 3: television set, just for the basis of how great of
- 26:25Speaker 3: a film it is, just technically and journalistically. But it's
- 26:30Speaker 3: been canceled by the BBC. Why because it offended Apparently
- 26:33Speaker 3: there Israeli lobby interests in the UK that claimed that
- 26:38Speaker 3: this film was antisemitic or it cast Israel in a
- 26:42Speaker 3: negative light. Well, at some point it's really hard to
- 26:46Speaker 3: sort of bury the truth. So why are we highlighting
- 26:49Speaker 3: all these cases and they just happened to be connected
- 26:52Speaker 3: with Palestine because that issue is being used by the
- 26:56Speaker 3: state to censor, to deny rights of free speech, to cancel,
- 27:00Speaker 3: to close borders, to deny entry, or to protect what
- 27:05Speaker 3: it appears to be Israeli interests on this issue, and
- 27:08Speaker 3: the government is towing a very strict line on this
- 27:11Speaker 3: and eroding away a lot of our basic rights as
- 27:14Speaker 3: a result. That Palestine just happens to be the touchstone issue.
- 27:18Speaker 3: Could be another issue, could be another group of people,
- 27:21Speaker 3: but at this moment in time, it's Palestine at the center.
- 27:24Speaker 3: That's why we have all these examples that were constantly
- 27:27Speaker 3: showing it's because that's what's driving the agenda, the authoritarian agenda.
- 27:32Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, thank you for that, Patrick Basil. Let's come
- 27:36Speaker 1: on to Alista and Action and the ongoing legal issues
- 27:41Speaker 1: around that.
- 27:43Speaker 4: Well, these are very much related to what Patrick was
- 27:45Speaker 4: talking about, the UK national security state targeting all forms
- 27:50Speaker 4: of Palestine's solidarity. I mean, we've got the new bill
- 27:53Speaker 4: coming in talking about cumulative protest, which is what Assistant
- 27:58Speaker 4: Commissioner Harmon was taught talking about when he said more
- 28:01Speaker 4: than thirty three, I agree, rather suspicious number. But this
- 28:05Speaker 4: whole idea of cumulative protest needs to be clamped down upon.
- 28:09Speaker 4: But protest has to be cumulative in order to get anywhere.
- 28:12Speaker 4: That's the whole point of it. And yeah, the VISal refusals,
- 28:18Speaker 4: that's another aspect of that. And of course we're now
- 28:22Speaker 4: going to look at the case of Rajiv Menon, who
- 28:25Speaker 4: made an absolutely exemplary speech, one described by Greig Murray
- 28:29Speaker 4: as the best legal speech he'd heard by a barrister
- 28:32Speaker 4: pretty much in his lifetime. Well, I'm pleased to say
- 28:36Speaker 4: he has won his case, but on a procedural matter,
- 28:40Speaker 4: Justice Johnson refused to allow him to direct the jury
- 28:46Speaker 4: to quit according to their conscience, and so as a
- 28:50Speaker 4: result of disregarding the Judge's instruction. He was charged with
- 28:54Speaker 4: contempt of court and immediately referred to the High Court. Now,
- 28:59Speaker 4: what the High Court of decided is that Justice Johnston
- 29:03Speaker 4: did not have the authority to do that, that he
- 29:05Speaker 4: needs approval from the Attorney General himself. If we can
- 29:09Speaker 4: go to the next slide. This is part of a
- 29:13Speaker 4: wider pattern, as we say, of targeting, using the legal
- 29:19Speaker 4: system as well as the police to target all forms
- 29:22Speaker 4: of opposition to genocide. Rajiv Menon won his appeal saying
- 29:29Speaker 4: that the divisional Court had no jurisdiction to consider the
- 29:33Speaker 4: contempt allegation in the absence of an application by the
- 29:36Speaker 4: Attorney General.
- 29:37Speaker 1: Lext slide.
- 29:37Speaker 4: Please, this is Devonshire's barristers. The case is unusual, but
- 29:42Speaker 4: the principle is wider. Contemproceedings are serious. They can engage
- 29:45Speaker 4: liberty in other words, resulting in custodial sentences. Obviously professional
- 29:49Speaker 4: representation and the administration of justice. The Court of Appeal
- 29:56Speaker 4: was not deciding whether the underlying contact amounted to contect.
- 30:00Speaker 4: That's the key point, deciding merely whether the procedures needed
- 30:04Speaker 4: to bring the matter before the High Court had been lawful,
- 30:08Speaker 4: and they weren't if we go to the next slide,
- 30:11Speaker 4: please Joshua Rosenberg, I believe is the former legal correspondent
- 30:15Speaker 4: of the BBC. He makes the point that the judge
- 30:20Speaker 4: can only refer it back to the bar standards boards
- 30:25Speaker 4: as an alleged breach of the barrister's Code of conduct.
- 30:30Speaker 4: But the Bar Council, if we go to the next slide,
- 30:35Speaker 4: have said that they don't want to take any further action.
- 30:39Speaker 4: They're not recommending that any further action is taken, and
- 30:43Speaker 4: that could be crucial in this case because let's not
- 30:47Speaker 4: forget judges are all former barristers themselves, and if the
- 30:51Speaker 4: Bar Council, which represents all barristers all cases, say that
- 30:56Speaker 4: they don't want the matter to go any further, then
- 30:58Speaker 4: it's unlikely to do so. But we haven't heard yet
- 31:02Speaker 4: from Justice Johnson whether or not he does intend to
- 31:05Speaker 4: appeal to the Attorney General directly. Anyway, we'll get a
- 31:09Speaker 4: sympathetic hearing if he does so, given the way the
- 31:12Speaker 4: UK national security state is completely captured. On we go
- 31:16Speaker 4: to the next side, please, yeah, there we are. Kirsty Brismolow,
- 31:23Speaker 4: or Chair of the Bar Council, said the Court of
- 31:27Speaker 4: Appeal judgment is welcomed and it is hoped that this
- 31:30Speaker 4: is now an end to this troubling episode. Michael Mansfield QC,
- 31:35Speaker 4: the most prominent human rights lawyer in Britain, even more
- 31:40Speaker 4: so than Keir Starmer. He joined the chorus of disapproval
- 31:45Speaker 4: of this measure, first time in living memory that a
- 31:48Speaker 4: barrister had been referred to the High Court for contempt
- 31:52Speaker 4: of court. Now moving swiftly on another aspect of this
- 31:57Speaker 4: malfeasans it's the only way to describe Cage International have
- 32:01Speaker 4: got the best take on this. Earlier this week, State
- 32:04Speaker 4: exploited terror powers to manipulate Filton jury to secure a conviction.
- 32:09Speaker 4: Let's remember there were reporting restrictions on this particular matter,
- 32:13Speaker 4: which meant that it wasn't in the public domain, and
- 32:17Speaker 4: that was basically that the Filton twenty four retrial of
- 32:23Speaker 4: six defendants who if you remember back in February, the
- 32:27Speaker 4: jury couldn't agree with verdict on well the judge had
- 32:33Speaker 4: not allowed their barristers to mention the fact that they
- 32:38Speaker 4: were acting out of their own conscience in order to
- 32:42Speaker 4: destroy weapons manufacturers used in the commission of genocide, and
- 32:49Speaker 4: nor were the jury allowed to know that if they
- 32:52Speaker 4: found the defendants guilty that they would be sentence under
- 32:58Speaker 4: terrorism legislation, even though the charge was only for criminal damage. Okay,
- 33:04Speaker 4: so you know the jury they're thinking, oh, well, here
- 33:06Speaker 4: we've got some defendants charged with criminal damage. We merely
- 33:10Speaker 4: have to decide whether or not we think they're guilty
- 33:13Speaker 4: of criminal damage. But actually no, if you find them guilty,
- 33:17Speaker 4: the judge is going to sentence them under terrorism legislation,
- 33:21Speaker 4: which results, of course in harsher conditions in prison, longer sentences,
- 33:27Speaker 4: loss of parole, etc. We can go to the next
- 33:29Speaker 4: slide please, Yeah. The riginal judge was removed after granting
- 33:36Speaker 4: a defendant bail. In his replacement, mister Justice Johnson, the
- 33:39Speaker 4: same judge that brought the case against Rajiv Menon, is
- 33:43Speaker 4: a career long defender of the British state, having previously
- 33:48Speaker 4: represented the police force and intelligence agencies, including talking in
- 33:56Speaker 4: favor of police officers engaging in sex relations with people
- 34:03Speaker 4: in protest groups that appalling scandal, women even father children
- 34:08Speaker 4: with men who were masquerading as authentic activists but were
- 34:12Speaker 4: in fact police officers undercover. Well, Justice Johnson thought all
- 34:17Speaker 4: that was okay. He's also represented MI five on we
- 34:21Speaker 4: go to the next slide. Please yeah.
- 34:24Speaker 1: This is the.
- 34:25Speaker 4: Cajun International's position the status stress testing new machinery of
- 34:31Speaker 4: legislation introduced in twenty twenty one that allows a terrorism
- 34:35Speaker 4: connection to be added to any offense carrying a two
- 34:39Speaker 4: year minimum sentence without a terrorism charge, without the jury's
- 34:43Speaker 4: knowledge and at the sole discussion of the judge. The
- 34:47Speaker 4: filt and four are the first people in British legal
- 34:50Speaker 4: history to face this mechanism for direct action. If it stands,
- 34:55Speaker 4: it will be used to gain in similar cases. If
- 34:58Speaker 4: this stands, the defendants could be given significantly longer prison
- 35:02Speaker 4: sentences and face severe restrictions on their lives following their
- 35:07Speaker 4: release as well. Last slide please in this sequence onto
- 35:14Speaker 4: the next one. It should be clear now to everyone
- 35:19Speaker 4: that terrorism laws are a weapon for the security state
- 35:23Speaker 4: to take over the judicial process and overturn tradition and
- 35:27Speaker 4: liberties acquired through citizens struggles over centuries. This is why
- 35:34Speaker 4: Cage has called for them to be abolished and for
- 35:37Speaker 4: there to be a return to due process and fair
- 35:41Speaker 4: trials procedures. Extraordinary really that we need to say those
- 35:45Speaker 4: things in the twenty first century, but we do. We
- 35:47Speaker 4: can put that slide up again very quickly, please, I
- 35:50Speaker 4: just want to read the statement from the head of
- 35:53Speaker 4: Public Advocacy at CAGE who said the terrorism sentencing connection
- 35:58Speaker 4: must be dropped ban on Palestine and actually must be lifted,
- 36:01Speaker 4: and the terror laws being used to reframe conscience as criminality.
- 36:07Speaker 1: Must be abolished.
- 36:08Speaker 4: What is being built here is a legal architecture designed
- 36:12Speaker 4: to make resistance through any means possible to mind, to
- 36:17Speaker 4: make resistance impossible and worth remembering of course that can
- 36:21Speaker 4: commitant with this. In the King's speech he announced tailing
- 36:26Speaker 4: of jury trials. Well, we can all see where this
- 36:30Speaker 4: is heading towards Kafka esque situation. If you put all
- 36:34Speaker 4: these various things together, you could be tried in court
- 36:39Speaker 4: in Britain by a judge not allowed to know, not
- 36:43Speaker 4: allowed to know the charges being brought against.
- 36:46Speaker 10: You, and.
- 36:49Speaker 4: You know, no jury. You know we're going to a
- 36:52Speaker 4: very dark place.
- 36:53Speaker 8: With all this.
- 36:54Speaker 1: Thank you Barsel for that. Yes, absolutely agree. Now let's
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- 38:10Speaker 1: thank you to everybody that was involved in putting together
- 38:13Speaker 1: the nine to eleven event that we livestream last night
- 38:18Speaker 1: at five pm. Manual or Admitted that is on the
- 38:22Speaker 1: UK COLMN website now if you'd like to have a
- 38:24Speaker 1: look at it. But let's just look at a short
- 38:26Speaker 1: excerpt from this.
- 38:29Speaker 8: Well. I spent many hours in the simulator with the
- 38:33Speaker 8: pilots doing these exercises, so people can dig into the
- 38:38Speaker 8: details in the report. But the basic overall findings, intuitive
- 38:42Speaker 8: and readily accomplishable bline routes were available to pilots on
- 38:46Speaker 8: nine to eleven, they weren't taken. Those are the routes
- 38:48Speaker 8: you'd expect to see these things were being manly flying.
- 38:52Speaker 8: The actual routes you see were from what we found
- 38:54Speaker 8: in the similar to study, they were demanding, counterintuitive and
- 38:58Speaker 8: you know, first time trying the first attempt likely to
- 39:01Speaker 8: have ended in mission failure. So we have, okay, an
- 39:06Speaker 8: easy way of doing it in a hard way of
- 39:08Speaker 8: doing it, and a hard way of doing it was
- 39:10Speaker 8: apparently chosen and that doesn't fit with manual controls. So
- 39:14Speaker 8: why from an automated control point of view would they
- 39:16Speaker 8: have been with those as it were difficult routes being flown.
- 39:21Speaker 8: When we look at the tracks, we can see as
- 39:23Speaker 8: we saw with the towers we have, we can see
- 39:26Speaker 8: clear evidence of the aircraft being maneuvered to reach particular
- 39:29Speaker 8: impact angles and with the pentagon and all that fits
- 39:32Speaker 8: not with a manual control scenario, but it does fit
- 39:35Speaker 8: with an automated control scenario. Just in my final second,
- 39:43Speaker 8: this is how I summarize everything and where we are
- 39:45Speaker 8: now in terms of what we understand about the flights
- 39:49Speaker 8: on nine to eleven is you know, what appears to
- 39:51Speaker 8: be a chaotic, difficult to execute and counterintuitive manual control
- 39:56Speaker 8: is in fact maneuvering that is consistent with carefully and
- 40:01Speaker 8: time wise coordinated and ultimately very precise targeting, which fits
- 40:05Speaker 8: with automated stroke remote controls a combinations of two, certainly
- 40:10Speaker 8: in the final stages automated guidance, perhaps some degree of
- 40:13Speaker 8: remote input at earlier stages in the flight, but it
- 40:16Speaker 8: points towards that and not towards manual controller. And that's
- 40:19Speaker 8: what we've learned from this study.
- 40:23Speaker 1: So I'd encourage everybody to watch the full thing. It's
- 40:26Speaker 1: it was an interesting, an interesting presentation to say the least,
- 40:30Speaker 1: So do have a look at that now. Brian Gerrish
- 40:33Speaker 1: is out of the country at the moment and he
- 40:37Speaker 1: has said us this short report to explain why good morning.
- 40:42Speaker 10: It's a beautiful sunny day, blue sky, sunshine, and I
- 40:47Speaker 10: stood here in the market square of the ancient German
- 40:52Speaker 10: city of Bremen, that's in the north of Germany. And
- 40:55Speaker 10: I've come here over the next few days to give
- 40:59Speaker 10: UK column viewers really a unique report into what's been
- 41:04Speaker 10: happening around or Rhino Formick, the man who started the
- 41:09Speaker 10: Corona Investigative Committee. Over recent weeks, his supporters have contacted
- 41:15Speaker 10: the UK Column to express their concerns about the trial
- 41:20Speaker 10: that he received, the fact that he's now spent over
- 41:23Speaker 10: two years in prison with about the same to serve.
- 41:30Speaker 10: His supporters say that he didn't get a fair trial
- 41:33Speaker 10: and that he's endured some pretty unpleasant conditions inside the prison.
- 41:40Speaker 10: So UK Column decided the only way to deal with
- 41:43Speaker 10: this situation was to come to Germany to meet some
- 41:47Speaker 10: of the supporters of Dr Rhina Formick and to hear
- 41:50Speaker 10: what they have to say. But also I'm going to
- 41:53Speaker 10: be able to go to bremer forda that's a much
- 41:57Speaker 10: smaller town about twenty twenty five columns to the east
- 42:03Speaker 10: of Bremen, and I'm going to be able to visit
- 42:07Speaker 10: Dr Rhyana Fulmick in prison to meet the man and
- 42:12Speaker 10: to understand from him in his own words, what has
- 42:16Speaker 10: actually taken place. So stay with the UK column initial
- 42:20Speaker 10: report today, but on Monday's news coming, I'll be reporting
- 42:27Speaker 10: about my visit to the prison in order to meet
- 42:30Speaker 10: doctor Rhina Fulmick.
- 42:34Speaker 1: Okay, so that's for Monday's program. Now let's move on
- 42:38Speaker 1: Patrick then to quite an amazing situation where a foreign
- 42:44Speaker 1: nation is threatening to sue a media organization in another nation.
- 42:52Speaker 3: Not just any media organization, the New York Times. So
- 42:54Speaker 3: the Israeli governments threatening the New York Times with a
- 42:57Speaker 3: massive lawsuit. That's the big story over the last couple
- 43:01Speaker 3: of days. And this is extraordinary. This is I don't
- 43:04Speaker 3: think this has ever happened before. But this is a
- 43:06Speaker 3: very special situation. So let's look at the offending article
- 43:11Speaker 3: to begin with. Here, this is the probably one of
- 43:14Speaker 3: the most explosive articles in New York Times history. This
- 43:17Speaker 3: is written by veteran journalist Nicholas Christoph. I have a
- 43:21Speaker 3: lot of disagreements with Nicholas over the years, personally on
- 43:25Speaker 3: Twitter as well. We've had our spats, but this is
- 43:29Speaker 3: his article here. Now, this is the silence that meets
- 43:32Speaker 3: the rape of Palestinians. And this is what he is unveiling.
- 43:36Speaker 3: Among other things in this Christoph documents testimonies from Palestinian men, women,
- 43:42Speaker 3: children describing widespread sexual abuse, rape humiliation by Israeli soldiers,
- 43:48Speaker 3: prison guards, settlers brought in to abuse the prisoners, as
- 43:52Speaker 3: well as various interrogators. Here and you know, the final
- 43:56Speaker 3: conclusion that Israel's a legal prison system has been transformed
- 44:02Speaker 3: into a state protected criminal network of torture camps and
- 44:06Speaker 3: organized sadistic and sexual abuse. There So all the details
- 44:12Speaker 3: are there and that I do encourage people to go
- 44:15Speaker 3: read that now. It also includes allegations of I think
- 44:21Speaker 3: we probably covered some of this on your past programs,
- 44:24Speaker 3: but that dogs were being trained to sexually abuse male
- 44:29Speaker 3: prisoners as well. So these types of allegations have created
- 44:34Speaker 3: a massive backlash, huge denials by Israel, and Israel's gone
- 44:38Speaker 3: on the attack.
- 44:39Speaker 1: As we can see. So this is where.
- 44:41Speaker 3: Now what's interesting about this, Mike, is the media coin
- 44:45Speaker 3: to react to this. It's clearly a reaction to this story.
- 44:48Speaker 3: Israel has reinvigorated the October seventh narrative, which the timing
- 44:54Speaker 3: of this is not coincidental, so I think a they
- 44:57Speaker 3: knew this story was coming out because it was a
- 45:00Speaker 3: of headline story by one of their big, big features writers.
- 45:04Speaker 3: Was published in the opinion section, which is a little
- 45:07Speaker 3: bit odd. It's not in the normal featured section. But
- 45:11Speaker 3: here's the other mainstream media reactions to this, and we'll
- 45:14Speaker 3: bring this up on screen here. This is a BBC
- 45:18Speaker 3: hamas weaponized sexual violence in October seventh attacks Israeli Investigations says,
- 45:24Speaker 3: So there's apparently this is new report that's out, an
- 45:28Speaker 3: Israeli report, and the media. This is right across the CNN, ABC, BBC,
- 45:34Speaker 3: Washington Post.
- 45:35Speaker 1: We'll show you the Daily Mail in a minute.
- 45:37Speaker 6: Now.
- 45:37Speaker 3: What was interesting, micause Nicholas Christoph, among his criticisms of
- 45:40Speaker 3: the Israelis, included the forty b headed babies claim and
- 45:44Speaker 3: almost validated it. So Christoph himself has come up under
- 45:50Speaker 3: a lot of criticism from people that are challenging that claim, which.
- 45:55Speaker 1: Has never been proven.
- 45:56Speaker 3: There's no evidence to ever suggest it, yet it's been
- 45:59Speaker 3: repeated Joe Biden, Donald Trump, Benjamin and Yahoo and certain
- 46:04Speaker 3: other world leaders here. So let's go back and just
- 46:07Speaker 3: and examine this a little closer. So as a reaction
- 46:10Speaker 3: to Christoph, will bring this back on screen now, that
- 46:14Speaker 3: you see the mainstream media pushing this October seventh new report.
- 46:18Speaker 3: Let's take a look though at this report here. Now
- 46:20Speaker 3: here's the Daily Mail taking things a little further. Depravity
- 46:23Speaker 3: of October seventh. Here the barbarism is beyond all imagination
- 46:27Speaker 3: and so forth. So but take a look closely at
- 46:30Speaker 3: the subhead, and you know this very inflammatory here. Then
- 46:33Speaker 3: this is the author of this report. Levy's report reveals
- 46:38Speaker 3: for the quote for the first time, the full depravity
- 46:40Speaker 3: and quote unimaginable sexual horror is committed by Hamas, which
- 46:45Speaker 3: some on the left still cast down on. I'm highlighting
- 46:48Speaker 3: that mic because that shows you there's a sort of
- 46:50Speaker 3: partisan agenda that's at play here. So my question is,
- 46:55Speaker 3: and we're going to ask, is this just mere propaganda
- 46:58Speaker 3: whenever you're introducing the left as part of your argument,
- 47:01Speaker 3: or the right or the left, particularly in something like this,
- 47:04Speaker 3: that should be a forensic investigation. I'm going to say,
- 47:08Speaker 3: we're into the realms of propaganda here. So let's look
- 47:11Speaker 3: at the woman herself. This is coachev El kaim Lev,
- 47:18Speaker 3: and she is head of the quote civil Commission. She's
- 47:21Speaker 3: calling it the Civil Commission report on October seventh, Sexual violence.
- 47:25Speaker 1: There she is.
- 47:26Speaker 3: But let's take a look at some of the problems
- 47:29Speaker 3: with her report and we'll back this up, of course
- 47:32Speaker 3: with receipts. But first off the bat, she's been caught here,
- 47:37Speaker 3: as we will show, fabricating evidence of quote, mass rape
- 47:41Speaker 3: in her report. Now, the BBC didn't push back on
- 47:44Speaker 3: any of this, neither did any of these mainstream media,
- 47:47Speaker 3: so it's like the journalists didn't do their job fact
- 47:49Speaker 3: checking this story they're running with. Anyway, we'll show you
- 47:52Speaker 3: some of those problems. So she's presented an old photo
- 47:56Speaker 3: of a female Kurdish fighter killed in combat and used
- 48:00Speaker 3: that as images of an quote Israeli woman at the
- 48:02Speaker 3: Nova Music festival. And she's claimed that fetuses were cut
- 48:07Speaker 3: from the wombs of pregnant mothers by Hamas fighters. And
- 48:11Speaker 3: also here Elkaiam Levy's self styled quote civil commission has
- 48:17Speaker 3: been exposed by Israeli media, some of the Israeli press
- 48:20Speaker 3: as a corrupt fundraising mechanism with herself as the beneficiary.
- 48:25Speaker 3: So those are their actual criticisms here. So I'm asking Mike,
- 48:28Speaker 3: has the Western mainstream media done any of their due
- 48:31Speaker 3: diligence They've just run with this report the Daily Mail
- 48:34Speaker 3: being probably the most egregious here. So let's look at
- 48:37Speaker 3: the claim here fake evidence of October seventh. Well, here's
- 48:41Speaker 3: the photos she included. Now, this is under the igius here.
- 48:46Speaker 3: This is on an Israeli website called the Hamas Massacre Website,
- 48:49Speaker 3: and that's the saying it's a Nova party victim. Well,
- 48:53Speaker 3: we did a little searching, Mike, doing a reverse image
- 48:55Speaker 3: search on the internet, as one does, and found the
- 48:58Speaker 3: original here from twenty two that is a Kurdish female fighter. Okay,
- 49:04Speaker 3: first published online. We'll provide the links to this in
- 49:08Speaker 3: the show notes, of course, but just just to return
- 49:11Speaker 3: back to that image. So that's one of the centerpieces there.
- 49:15Speaker 3: So if this has been faked and fabricated, what else
- 49:18Speaker 3: in this report? We don't have time to go through
- 49:20Speaker 3: all of the exhibits, but I'm sure we could find
- 49:23Speaker 3: quite a few others. Now, all of this is basically
- 49:25Speaker 3: backstopped by this, and you'll see a lot of people
- 49:29Speaker 3: who are pushing the October seventh mass rate narrative will
- 49:32Speaker 3: point to this UN report from twenty twenty four. This
- 49:35Speaker 3: is Primilla Patten from the UN that spent sent a
- 49:39Speaker 3: special team to look into this and this is the
- 49:42Speaker 3: headline United Nations, clear and convincing information that hostage is
- 49:47Speaker 3: held in Gaza was subject to sexual violence, says UN
- 49:51Speaker 3: special representative. That's what the headline says, Mike. But this
- 49:55Speaker 3: is a mixed there's mixed messaging going on here. And
- 49:58Speaker 3: this is the problem with this UN. The media will
- 50:01Speaker 3: run with this headline and who has the power to
- 50:04Speaker 3: make the headline. But we actually looked into the contents
- 50:07Speaker 3: of this report and here's what we found. So the
- 50:09Speaker 3: mission was led by Pramila Patten. She is the UN
- 50:13Speaker 3: rappertoire as it were, on sexual violence. She was assigned
- 50:15Speaker 3: to this along with nine other experts.
- 50:17Speaker 1: This was not an.
- 50:18Speaker 3: Investigative trip in nature, but designed to gather and verify
- 50:22Speaker 3: quote allegations, says the UN. Thirty three meetings were held
- 50:27Speaker 3: with Israeli representatives, not Palestinian and more than five thousand
- 50:31Speaker 3: photographic images were supplied to Patent by the Israelis and examined,
- 50:36Speaker 3: and fifty hours of video footage supplied by the Israeli
- 50:39Speaker 3: government to the UN team. So already we see problems
- 50:43Speaker 3: here and we go further and here's now this is
- 50:46Speaker 3: the actual text from the report. Reasonable grounds the reasonab
- 50:51Speaker 3: grounds to believe that sexual violence, including gang rig took place.
- 50:55Speaker 3: So there's this language in there reasonable grounds to believe,
- 51:00Speaker 3: and despite concerted efforts to encourage quote victims to come forward,
- 51:05Speaker 3: the team was unable to interview any of them. So
- 51:08Speaker 3: this is all secondhand, basically hearsay, So clear and convincing information,
- 51:13Speaker 3: that's the headline. Here's the report's conclusions after reviewing thousands
- 51:18Speaker 3: of photos and videos provided by the Israeli government and
- 51:21Speaker 3: concluded that in the medical legal assessment of available photos
- 51:27Speaker 3: and videos, no tangible indications of rape could be identified.
- 51:31Speaker 3: That's from the actual same UN report, and they go
- 51:34Speaker 3: on to say despite extensive searches, no digital evidence specifically
- 51:39Speaker 3: depicting acts of sexual violence was found in open sources.
- 51:43Speaker 3: The UN report added here, so again no digital actual
- 51:47Speaker 3: evidence there. So the good analysis of this is here
- 51:51Speaker 3: an electronic intfada is Israel's seventh of October rape polks
- 51:56Speaker 3: gets a three hundred page reboot. They're talk talking about
- 52:00Speaker 3: the Civil Committee investigation report that the BBC that.
- 52:04Speaker 1: We showed you was pushing there this week.
- 52:06Speaker 3: So as you can see, the controversy was baked in
- 52:11Speaker 3: to the double speak of this UN report that ran
- 52:15Speaker 3: with one headline, but the contents showed something else, which
- 52:18Speaker 3: was there was no evidence that the UN team had
- 52:22Speaker 3: or could say that could validate any of these claims
- 52:25Speaker 3: of mass rape on October seventh, and and of course
- 52:28Speaker 3: the forty b head at Baby's claim completely fictitious. There's
- 52:32Speaker 3: never been any evidence supplied to validate that as well.
- 52:36Speaker 3: But everything's been kept in private by the Israeli government
- 52:39Speaker 3: and they'll bring journalists in to look at a curated
- 52:42Speaker 3: set of images, photos and videos, watch curated films, but
- 52:46Speaker 3: they won't release any of this stuff publicly. And the
- 52:49Speaker 3: stuff they have released, we've already debunked it, which we
- 52:51Speaker 3: just showed you there from their website. So again, Mike,
- 52:55Speaker 3: there's just so much, so many lies and deceptions going
- 53:01Speaker 3: on with this propaganda. This is a trosty propaganda. It's
- 53:05Speaker 3: being pushed by the State of Israel, by their government
- 53:08Speaker 3: constantly since October seventh to deflect away from a clear
- 53:12Speaker 3: ongoing genocide which is now by now undeniable, and which
- 53:16Speaker 3: is now also being carried out in South Lebanon against
- 53:18Speaker 3: the Lebanese.
- 53:21Speaker 1: So let's move on to some more hypocrisy here. So
- 53:24Speaker 1: in this case, more Starma regime hypocrisy, this time from
- 53:27Speaker 1: Colonel Joby Rimmer at the USSE. So let's bring him
- 53:31Speaker 1: on screen. So here he is and what was he saying.
- 53:35Speaker 1: He gave a speech warning that Russia's selective cease far
- 53:38Speaker 1: as mask bad faith engagement, a war dependent economy and
- 53:43Speaker 1: growing militarization making Moscow more conservative, coercive, sorry, and risk tolerant.
- 53:49Speaker 1: Now Russia's actions, not as rhetoric, demonstrate the absence of
- 53:54Speaker 1: any genuine commitment to a lasting peace in Europe. That
- 53:56Speaker 1: was the headline on the press release that led into
- 54:00Speaker 1: his speech. I'm not going to go into the details
- 54:01Speaker 1: of the speech itself, but you know this speech and
- 54:06Speaker 1: the language that goes around it is coming from a
- 54:09Speaker 1: regime which is doing exactly what they're accusing Russia of doing.
- 54:12Speaker 1: So Britain is absolutely militarizing the British economy at the
- 54:16Speaker 1: moment and demonstrating the complete absence of any genuine commitment
- 54:21Speaker 1: to lasting peace in Europe. And just to run through
- 54:24Speaker 1: a couple of the key events since Starmar's becoming Prime
- 54:27Speaker 1: Minister in February twenty twenty five, the commitment of two
- 54:31Speaker 1: point five percent GDP spent on defense. But since then
- 54:34Speaker 1: we've seen that being ramped up and move forward. But
- 54:38Speaker 1: June twenty twenty five, that's from trating Defense Review. Also
- 54:41Speaker 1: in June twenty twenty five the National Security Strategy, in
- 54:44Speaker 1: September twenty twenty five the Defense Industrial Strategy, which they
- 54:49Speaker 1: sub headlined making defense an engine for growth. And on
- 54:53Speaker 1: the eleventh September twenty twenty five the Defense Dividend was launched.
- 54:58Speaker 1: And then of course they are talking about the numbers
- 55:02Speaker 1: of factories that they were opening and so on to
- 55:04Speaker 1: build drones and all the rest. So you know, we've
- 55:08Speaker 1: seen language over the last period of months that the
- 55:12Speaker 1: UK column has absolutely been reporting patrick on this reorientation,
- 55:18Speaker 1: this whole economy, whole of government reorientation towards a war agenda.
- 55:24Speaker 1: And at the same time we're pushing out yet another
- 55:26Speaker 1: speech in the USC and other international forums where we're
- 55:30Speaker 1: accusing Russia of doing this and saying that this is
- 55:34Speaker 1: something horrendous that no country should be basically doing, and
- 55:37Speaker 1: accusing Russia of all kinds of things. Again, it's the
- 55:42Speaker 1: UK projecting its own bad behavior onto other countries, and
- 55:46Speaker 1: somehow it's never challenged. There's no accountability and the mainstream
- 55:50Speaker 1: media and not asking any questions.
- 55:52Speaker 3: And as we reported previously Mike, in terms of like
- 55:55Speaker 3: arming the Arctic, how they've co opted academia into this drive.
- 56:00Speaker 3: The big contracts and research grants and things funding come
- 56:03Speaker 3: from government for drone technology, for targeting technology, new and
- 56:07Speaker 3: innovative ways to kill people, to kill Russians, as the
- 56:11Speaker 3: British Army like to say to their soldiers they're training
- 56:15Speaker 3: from Ukraine, We're training them to kill Russians. And so
- 56:20Speaker 3: this is this the state of the new economy. You
- 56:22Speaker 3: remember the good green jobs, you remember those, bring back
- 56:26Speaker 3: the good old days. Either are going to be good
- 56:27Speaker 3: green jobs. No more green jobs. Now it's good defense jobs,
- 56:31Speaker 3: war jobs, war jobs. If you want to continue the
- 56:33Speaker 3: US transformation of the Department of Defense to the Department
- 56:37Speaker 3: of War, and John Healey is going to say more
- 56:39Speaker 3: war jobs, we're going to be to be strong war economy.
- 56:43Speaker 3: How many people signed up for that in the last election.
- 56:46Speaker 3: Imagine if they ran with that on their party platform,
- 56:48Speaker 3: we're going to transform our economy to a war economy.
- 56:51Speaker 3: Who would get elected Nobody? But yet they're pushing this agenda.
- 56:57Speaker 1: Basil, let's come back to you. Then to finish off
- 57:00Speaker 1: more in case you missed.
- 57:03Speaker 4: Yes, thanks Mike. Another selection of stories that may have
- 57:08Speaker 4: passed you by this week. First off, this is rather sad.
- 57:12Speaker 4: I must admit the NSPCC rewording a sharp rise in
- 57:16Speaker 4: children being blackmailed over sexual images, particularly when they've sent
- 57:23Speaker 4: explicit photos to people with whom they are flirting online
- 57:28Speaker 4: and then it turns out the person they were flirting
- 57:31Speaker 4: with is in fact the catfish, and they then are
- 57:35Speaker 4: threatened with these photos being exposed unless they transfer money.
- 57:40Speaker 4: It's not just children, adults to get catfished in this
- 57:43Speaker 4: way and subsequently blackmailed. This is an important story which
- 57:48Speaker 4: is related to the subjects we were talking about earlier.
- 57:52Speaker 4: Former senior police officer says the Metropolitan Police chief should
- 57:56Speaker 4: resign over his comments about the Palestine's solidarity marches deliberately
- 58:03Speaker 4: going near synagogue's Nustrit Meta, who was one of the
- 58:08Speaker 4: UK's top female ethnic minority police officers, told Declassified that
- 58:12Speaker 4: some mark roley is blurring the lines of operational policing
- 58:17Speaker 4: and political positioning. Now there's something called the Nolan Protocols
- 58:22Speaker 4: that the police are supposed to abide by, and there's
- 58:25Speaker 4: no doubt Roly has deviated from them, and she speculates
- 58:31Speaker 4: whether he is planning on getting involved in politics. On
- 58:35Speaker 4: we Go The Guardian now this week, Christopher Harborne. This
- 58:41Speaker 4: is something we were going to talk about today more detail.
- 58:43Speaker 4: Unfortunately we've ran out of time. The controversial billionaire who
- 58:48Speaker 4: gave Nigel Farage five million pounds. He's been named in
- 58:52Speaker 4: the list of the UK's wealthiest people for the first time,
- 58:57Speaker 4: along with the Gallagher, others of Oasis and Emily Evis.
- 59:03Speaker 4: So Christopher Harborne, they're making it to the rich list.
- 59:08Speaker 4: On we Go, next one, please.
- 59:11Speaker 1: Here we are.
- 59:12Speaker 4: Oh yes, a couple of lovely Palenteer stories. First one,
- 59:15Speaker 4: millions of pounds have been saved by replacing Palenteer in
- 59:21Speaker 4: a system which allocates accommodation to refugees. The Ministry of Housing,
- 59:28Speaker 4: Communities and Local Government said its new system was more
- 59:31Speaker 4: flexible and could meet the high standards of security. This
- 59:36Speaker 4: is the homes for Ukraine, screen matching people fleeing the
- 59:40Speaker 4: conflict with offers of accommodation, a complex task initially supported
- 59:45Speaker 4: for free, but which grew to cost millions millions for Palenteer. Well,
- 59:50Speaker 4: they're out of that contract. So hopefully they'll be out
- 59:52Speaker 4: of more. Because the Financial Times reported this week and
- 59:56Speaker 4: that has been this has been extensively taken up on
- 59:59Speaker 4: social media as well well, that Palenteer have now been
- 1:00:02Speaker 4: granted almost universal access to our health records, Palenteer to
- 1:00:07Speaker 4: be granted unlimited access to NHS patent patient data, and
- 1:00:14Speaker 4: obviously we want we want to Palenteer out of the NHS.
- 1:00:19Speaker 4: We've had Haikoku who's leading a campaign against that. There
- 1:00:24Speaker 4: are petitions to sign. I think Stoppalenteer dot org is
- 1:00:27Speaker 4: his organization. So there we go. And finally this week,
- 1:00:33Speaker 4: some footage this morning from Downing Streets Keir Starmer apparently
- 1:00:39Speaker 4: somewhat reluctant to step down as premiere, and we can see.
- 1:00:44Speaker 1: That now.
- 1:00:52Speaker 4: To get him out, but he won't go. He won't
- 1:00:55Speaker 4: go while we'll be talking about that and his prospects
- 1:00:58Speaker 4: which looks increasingly gloomy in the extra program.
- 1:01:03Speaker 3: Thank you, Basil, and yes, just good work getting down
- 1:01:07Speaker 3: there to number ten to get that that shot, Basle.
- 1:01:10Speaker 1: That's that was very impressed. That was the money shot
- 1:01:12Speaker 1: of the week. Absolutely well, look we've got to leave
- 1:01:15Speaker 1: it there for today. Thank you very much, Patrick and
- 1:01:17Speaker 1: Basil for joining me today and for everybody that's watching.
- 1:01:20Speaker 1: Stay on the line if you're a UK Call member
- 1:01:23Speaker 1: and we'll have some news extra for you in a
- 1:01:25Speaker 1: couple of minutes. Otherwise, don't forget the other programs going
- 1:01:29Speaker 1: out tonight and on Sunday, and we will see you
- 1:01:32Speaker 1: as usual one pm on Monday, see you then, Bye
- 1:01:35Speaker 1: bye