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Football at Four: A Look at the AFC North · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Football for is powered by the Inside of the Birds Podcast.
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  Whatever the sport, whatever the moment, it's never ordinary. At
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  BET three six' five our division previews continue. Today we're
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  going to THE Afc, north home of The steelers And
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  bengals And browns and The, ravens and of course usually
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  we'll talk With andrew To checko for our, previews but
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  this week pinch hitting in the division preview. Slot it's
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  the Great Jeff boscher from The inside of The Birds. Podcast,
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  jeff we get to talk a little bit outside The eagles,
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  today As andrew usually does such a good job. With
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  you are on the clock now for THE Afc, north which,
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  is by the, way a very, difficult very tough division
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  here that thankfully The eagles do not have to have
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  the cross division matchups with them this. Year you, got,
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  really how many playoff teams do you have in THE Afc?
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  Speaker 2: North you got? Two or?
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  Speaker 3: Three oh, man you, Know i've been burned by this
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  before leaving The steelers. Out they always seem to find a, way,
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  uh even with their THEIR i guess With Aaron rodgers
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  is their, QUARTERBACK i can SEE i can see. Three you,
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  know last, YEAR i think The bengals just missed it.
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  Speaker 4: By uh by.
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  Speaker 5: Uh you, know they weren't able to get in despite
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  their loot winning streak at the end of last.
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  Speaker 4: Year BUT i think this time you're gonna see.
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  Speaker 5: Three, yeah including perhaps the best team in THE.
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  Speaker 2: Nfl, Yes so we're gonna start with, him The Baltimore.
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  Speaker 1: Ravens everybody will start with The ravens and OUR Afc
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  north previews today the possible best team in THE. Nfl
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  let's take a look at first The Baltimore ravens and
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  is this the Year we've talked About Jalen hurts and
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  quarterback lists and many people in the quarterback list Have Lamar.
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  Jackson but does he have enough around him this? Time
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  on the offensive side of the, ball have they done?
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  Speaker 2: Enough?
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  Speaker 1: Uh they drafted defense uh in the first two rounds
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  this pay. Year so when you look at The ravens,
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  offense do you look at a team that is finally
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  able to get past some of the problems the limitations
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  they've had in those big playoff.
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  Speaker 2: Games.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah and you, know obviously they had some two really
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  killer turnovers in their last year in their playoff game
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  that ended their. Season, otherwise they're a pretty darn good
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  team and a pretty good offensive.
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  Speaker 4: Team. Really the only change for them offensively is is
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  no More Nelson.
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  Speaker 5: Ageloor DeAndre hopkins is, in but you still have a
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  Shot bateman who. MAN i think a lot of, people including,
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  myself kind of signed his death certificate a couple of years,
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  ago but he wound up bouncing back and plays a
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  good role for. Them Say, flowers you Know Ronnie. Stanley
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  they brought back a left tackle at, times he still
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  plays like a really good elite left tackle in this.
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  Speaker 4: League went. Healthy Tyler linden bounder.
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  Speaker 5: Center they have, not to my, knowledge lost anybody on
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  offense that they want to, keep OR i think Even
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  Andrew voorhees as left guard is going to wind up
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  being an update upgrade for them.
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  Speaker 4: There so they are about as deep.
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  Speaker 5: And talented as long as they Have Lamar jackson and
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  as long as they've got uh Had Derek henry. Healthy
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  and again you Add DeAndre, hopkins see if he's got
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  some juice left in the. Tank they're a little bit
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  deeper because they Signed Joseph Joe nopum as a. Backup
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  Ben cleveland's a, Backup so they they're. Deep they've Got
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  Cooper rush as a backup. Quarterback we know he started
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  a decent number of games for The, Cowboys so it's
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  hard to find look at their offense and say they
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  have a weakness.
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  Speaker 2: There, yeah big. Time you're talking about the receiving.
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  Speaker 1: COURSE A, Flowers Rashad, Bateman DeAndre hopkins is at the.
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  Speaker 2: Best you, know And Mark.
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  Speaker 1: Andrews that's probably the best trio of guys That Lamar
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  jackson has. Had you Add Derrick henry to that, mix
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  this might be the best overall offense in The Lamar jackson.
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  Speaker 2: AREA i, guess, Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And like you, know think ABOUT i think last year
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  was the first year With Todd. MUNKIN i correct on
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  that that the offensive. Coordinator he's, yeah he's still in
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  the early stages and they had such a good. Year you,
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  know with that marriage between the, two it should only get,
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  better it should only get more. Comfortable so and, remember
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  you KNOW i didn't Mention Izaila. Likely so even if
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  you're playing more two tight end and you Have andrews
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  And likely out, there they're just such a tough team
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  to defend because of the quarterback is such a. Weapon
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  the running back is such a, weapon and then they
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  have five different guys who could get the ball at
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  any given. Time so, YEAH i would say this is
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  probably the best overall all set of offensive weaponry that's
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  been Around.
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  Speaker 4: Lamar but, really to, me it's not about.
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  Speaker 5: That it's just another year With todd munkin and already
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  really good offensive, personnel all.
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  Speaker 1: Right Jeff Boscher football for OUR Afc north preview looked
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  at The ravens first. Defense when we think Of, ravens
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  we always think of. Defense they Drafted Malachai. Starks they
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  add him to the, Defense Kyle hamilton, obviously you Know Rokwan.
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  Smith they've got a really good pass.
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  Speaker 2: Rush.
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  Speaker 1: Here is this a you, know are they still a
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  team that depends on their defense even With Lamar jackson on.
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  Speaker 5: Offense, well a lot of people may not realize, this you,
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  know because they started off so poorly last year on
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  defense under their first year Coordinator Zach. ORR a lot
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  of people didn't realize. That over the last seven or
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  eight games they made a couple of schematic. Changes they
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  got they stopped Moving hamilton. Around they moved To humphrey
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  back into the. Nickel he had been moving around a little.
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  Bit they just simplified, things and they actually brought in
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  deanps as a consultant and his wisdom was helpful there
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  as an assistant To. Orr but they over the last
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  eight games of the year were number two overall.
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  Speaker 4: Defensively to The Philadelphia.
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  Speaker 5: Eagles so a lot of people look at last year
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  and be, like, ah, man they weren't as good defensively
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  as they were Under mike, McDonald and they're right for
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  the first half of the, season but the second half
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  of the season they were right up.
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  Speaker 4: There and again no no major losses on.
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  Speaker 5: DEFENSE i bring all all their big guns back With
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  Nomini Matte, bouquet and you know they bring in they've
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  Got kyle van, Nuy Trenton, simpson roe Quand Smith. Away you,
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  know you might look at their edge rushers and, say you,
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  know they're still looking for more out Of owa and
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  perhaps you, know Van ney and maybe trying to get
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  some some. Backups so they Drafted Mike green in the second.
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  Round that could wind up really helping them. Out but,
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  otherwise you, know when you've got a secondary that Has Kyle,
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  Hamilton Malachi, starks they Add Jaiir, alexander who's you know
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  went healthy is one of the top three corners in the.
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  League and you've already got A All pro Like Marlon
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  humphrey And.
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  Speaker 4: Nate wiggins had a really good rookie.
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  Speaker 5: Year this might be the best secondary in the entire,
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  league mic by by a.
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  Speaker 1: Lot and you said earlier before we got to, them
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  that this division might be home to the best team in.
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  Football when we're talking about contenders for The Eagles, crown
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  this has to be one of them all the way
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  at the top.
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  Speaker 2: Of the, list The Baltimore.
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  Speaker 1: Ravens, everybody all, right OUR Afc north, Previews let's go To.
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  Cincinnati last, year The bengals obviously fell, short but many
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  people like this team a. Lot they love them because
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  they have great skill position players and they have a
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  really good. Quarterback so when you take a look at this,
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  team and by the, way they also drafted defense in
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  their first two, rounds so they thought this offense was pretty.
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  Good led By Joe burrow Obviously Jamar CHASE T. Higgins
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  they've got plenty of weapons. There but you look at
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  that offensive. Line have they done enough with the offensive,
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  line because we know the skill position players are good.
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  Speaker 5: Enough, YEAH i mean some of that's going to depend
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  on how well Doing fairchild plays is a third round
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  pick At, Georgia Ted carris at, center you Know Patrick
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  lucas if he's their right. Guard you, know they've got
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  to get growth out Of Amarius, mims who was their
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  first round pick the year.
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  Speaker 4: BEFORE i, mean he has.
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  Speaker 5: All the tools to be a really good right, tackle
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  if not eventually a left. Tackle but he's a great.
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  Athlete they just have to get him more seasoned as a.
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  LIGNEMAN i think this if this offense offensive line can
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  play thirty percent better than it did last, year this
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  could be a, really really dangerous. Team but that's got
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  to be. Proven and then you look at the other.
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  SIDE i, mean they have a lot of work to
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  do defensively as. Well they have not been a good
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  defensive team last few.
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  Speaker 1: Years, well they drafted, defense as we, mentioned, right and
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  this was a team that you, know The Trey henderson.
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  Speaker 2: Situation they did add Oron.
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  Speaker 1: Burks by the, way if you're wondering where he went,
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  To Logan wilson is over, there you, know but you
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  would imagine one of their problems last. Year look at
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  some of the scores in the, game shootouts all over the.
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  Speaker 5: Place, YEAH i mean they just couldn't stop. Anybody their
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  secondary really. Struggled Cam Britt taylor has been a good
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  corner in the. League wasn't his best year last? Year
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  you know their corner, corner NICOL i was gonna Say Dax,
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  hill he has. Not he was the first round pick
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  a couple of years. Ago they're looking for more of
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  him AND Dj. Turner but, really like even their pass
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  rush has been very one. Dimensional it's Been Trey. Hendrickson
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  they need a little bit more than Just Trey. Hendrickson
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  that's why they Drafted Shamar stewart in the first. Round
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  he's interesting because this is a guy, who you, know
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  like we talked About, mims has all the crazy athleticism
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  you could ever want from a pass, rusher, but As
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  Greg cosel broke him down for us.
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  Speaker 4: During the draft, season doesn't really have a.
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  Speaker 5: Plan he's not some guy who lines up and has
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  all these great hand techniques and uh and a plan
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  for how to get to the. Quarterback he's just all.
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  Athleticism so they got to figure it out with.
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  Speaker 1: Him Joe burrow, Obviously Jamar CHASE. T. Higgins you like
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  The Chase higgins or you like The smith And.
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  Speaker 4: BROWN i think you're you're pretty good at hands with
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  both of.
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  Speaker 5: Them those are your, options and you're you're gonna win
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  a lot Of you're gonna score a lot of.
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  Speaker 4: Points, yeah as far as your quarterback and get him the.
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  Speaker 5: Ball but THERE'S i think, OBVIOUSLY i Think chase probably
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  runs a little bit more of a sophisticated route treat
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  THAN Aj.
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  Speaker 4: Brown that's not a knock on Is. Brown it's just
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  the way they.
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  Speaker 5: Use Jamar Chase higgins And Devonte smith are really.
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  Speaker 4: Interesting neither guy is.
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  Speaker 5: Game is predicated on speed more on route. Running both
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  are actually, physical Even DeVante smith for his. Size so
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  maybe you could put The bengals like a notch, ahead
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  but on any given day it could be the.
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  Speaker 1: Same ravens twelve and, Five bengals nine to. Eight The
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  steelers finished ten and seven last. Year they went to the,
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  playoffs although they did lose four straight. Games they ADDED
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  Dk metcalf to this, team but they did trade Away
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  George pickens and that leaves it with the Veteran Robert.
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  Woods Calvin austin is, There Jalen warren is the running,
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  back And Aaron rodgers is the. Quarterback so when you
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  look at The steelers, offense do you look at this
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  offense as a better version than the one that ended
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  the season at ten and seven with four straight.
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  Speaker 5: Losses, MAN i gotta admit To i'm really torn on
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  this team and this offense in.
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  Speaker 4: PARTICULAR i think when they Traded.
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  Speaker 5: George, pickens lit things made sense to, Me, mike BECAUSE
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  i just felt That metcalf And pickens they're not the same,
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  receiver but they have some similar traits in how you
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  want to align them and run them down the.
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  Speaker 4: Field SO i didn't know which one was going to
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  wind up playing THE z or moving. Around and now
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  you don't have to have that.
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  Speaker 5: CONVERSATION i can't say that you know the combination Of
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  Robert woods and you Know Calvin. Austin are you gonna scare?
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  Anybody but they did Draft Roman wilson last. YEAR i
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  Thought Roman wilson out Of michigan could be a pretty
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  good receiver in the right right, system right quarterback got
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  hurt a little bit last year and never really established.
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  Himself maybe if he could come, on it gives us
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  offense another. Dimension but right, now to, me like their
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  their most volume receiver next To Dk metcalf would probably
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  Be Pat, fryarmuth who's a good tight.
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  Speaker 4: End there's nothing wrong with, that it's Just Pat.
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  Speaker 5: Fryarmouth is not going to keep defensive coordinators awake at.
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  Speaker 4: Night so Obviously Aaron Rodgers now And Aaron ken raise
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  the level of.
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  Speaker 5: Play AND i guess the one thing that's really going
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  for them is THAT i think that they have a
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  very good offensive, line and that can compensate when you
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  don't have great offensive.
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  Speaker 4: Weaponry but when you're trying to score points with The ravens.
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  Speaker 5: And The, Bengals, MIKE i JUST i know you're not
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  supposed to bet against The steelers because they burn you
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  every single time you do.
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  Speaker 4: It they make the playoffs every.
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  Speaker 5: Year But i'm really struggling to see this offense be good.
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  Enough and you, know unless a lot of things happen
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  THAT i don't foresee.
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  Speaker 1: Happening their defense is what, obviously you know a lot
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  of people look at, Them Derek, harmon they took in
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  the first.
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  Speaker 2: Round, There Cam, hey WE'D.
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  Speaker 1: Tj, Watt Patrick, Clean Alex, Heismid Darius, Slay Joey Porter,
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  Junior Jalen. Ramsey is just a defense that you'd, say
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  can keep them in games and keep them out of.
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  Speaker 2: Shootouts, yeah you, know ASSUMING.
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  Speaker 5: Tj, wattson you, know gonna stay and, play and he
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  teams up WITH i really like their defensive. LINEMAN i
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  Loved harmon At. OREGON i think it's a great fit
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  for who The steelers are because he's he's not a finesse.
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  Player he's a, strong powerful, player and you team him
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  up With Keanu, benton WHO i really like come out
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  Of wisconsin out of the second round two years.
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  Speaker 4: Ago he's a good nose. Tackle so you've Got ward And, Hayward, Benton.
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  Harmon that's a good for right. There and they, always you,
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  know don't don't.
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  Speaker 5: Forget they've got some good pass other pass rushers And
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  alex High, smith and they Drafted Jack, swear which is
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  like a Vintage steelers type of. Player SO i think
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  from the front six they're pretty. Good Patrick, Queen Peyton,
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  wilson they're. Good AND i think they're good in the secondary.
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  Too BUT i just don't. KNOW i don't know how
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  it works With Darius, Slay Joey Porter, junior And Jaylen
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  ramsey because none of, them to, me scream.
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  Speaker 4: Nickelback ramsey is a movable player because he moved around
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  when he was with The. Rams he plays that star.
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  Speaker 5: Position but you don't pay a guy twenty six million
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  dollars to sort, of, like you, know not really be
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  an ace at one.
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  Speaker 4: Spot SO i don't know how that's gonna work.
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  Speaker 5: OUT i Trust Mike tumbman will figure it out and
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  the egos will be checked out the. Door so they
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  certainly have talent there To. Sean elliott's are really good
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  safety for them that not a lot of people talk.
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  About he's sort of the glue for their back. End so,
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  again this, team this, team they're sort of reminded like
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  how we've talked about The giants over the last few,
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  years where you have a lot of really good defensive,
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  players but they can't just go out there and carry
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  a dysfunctional offense or a bad offense all you, know
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  week after week after. Week, now The steelers are better
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  offensively than The, giants and their offensive line in general
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  is good. Enough but, again you're going against some horses
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  right on, offense against The bengals and against the and
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  against The, ravens and you know you're asking a lot
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  if this offense doesn't hold up its end of the.
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  Speaker 1: Bargain all, Right jeff BOJAR Afc North, Preview we're going
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  to the. Basement three wins For cleveland last year's three win.
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  Roster let's start with. That when you look at this,
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  team do you look At, yeah that's a three win.
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  Speaker 4: ROSTER i, mean you know WHAT I Bill parcell. Say
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  you are what you, are what your record says you.
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  Speaker 5: Are they did miss some guys from injuries last, year
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  but obviously the quarterback situation was why they were bad last.
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  Year they've got some pretty good players on, defense although
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  they had they struggled with injuries on the back end
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  last year as.
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  Speaker 4: Well BUT i liked What Jim schwartz did last.
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  Speaker 5: Year he adapted through a lot more exotic blitzes at
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  teams than people have associated With. Schwartz but, Offensively, mike
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  who's their? Quarterback is It Joe? Flacco is It Kenny?
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  Pickett is It Dylan gabriel or standards like either one
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  not one of those four gives me a whole lot
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  of confidence BECAUSE i just, don't you, know they're just
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  okay at this stage of their.
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  Speaker 1: Career, yeah and this is you know they have you,
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  Know Jerry judy's out. There you, know obviously they traded for,
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  him brought him. Over so he's a guy that's a
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  they thought people thought would be a. Playmaker Deontay johnson's
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  had a wild, tour but he's had some talent. There
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  david And joko another very talented. Guy but for whatever,
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  reason they, just you, know this, offense the quarterback situation
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  With watson's been a. Mess flacco got him to the
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  playoffs a couple of years. Ago they got four guys
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  that picked on that. Offense just doesn't scream like this
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  is gonna be a consistent bunch, here no matter how
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  you look at. It but you talked about the injuries
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  that they, had but their, defense the talent they have
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  on the defensive side of the, ball you, Wonder you're, like,
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  hey if they get competent quarterback, play can they be
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  in the wildcard mix with this?
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  Speaker 4: DEFENSE i think it would take a whole isn't joker?
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  Speaker 5: HURT i thought that he was going to be out
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  for a little bit there from The, Browns, oh you,
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  know not a.
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  Speaker 4: Joker joker they Called Jeremiah. Awosuka, yes, yes, yes he is.
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  Speaker 5: Out he's gonna miss the entire season from a neck,
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  injury and you know that's that's that's rough for. Them
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  we know how important when you play the wide, nine
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  Like Jim schwartz does that it is to have these
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  linebackers who can.
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  Speaker 4: Get downhill and make.
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  Speaker 5: Tackles that's why they Drafted Carson schwestenser at THE ucla
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  in the second. Round they've Got Jordan, hicks who's a good,
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  player but he's obviously getting up there getting, older, RIGHT
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  i mean it's Like Miles garrett is a great, player
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  but who else on this defense really strikes? You Downsow
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  award can be a very good, cornerback he's a little bit,
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  inconsistent you, know same thing With delpit was hurt last.
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  Speaker 4: YEAR i don't.
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  Speaker 5: KNOW i just don't know if that, like if you're
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  going to struggle, offensively you need to shut down.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: Defense BUT i also look at this, Team, jeff you
• 17:39
  know the dysfunction at the quarterback, position and it's like
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  which of these four should be the? Quarterback, well you
• 17:45
  can make a case for all. Four that's never a good.
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  Sign then you've got the second round, Pick Kashawn. JUDKINS
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  i don't, know he's already he never signed his, contract
• 17:53
  got into some domestic violence stuff the other day or.
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  Something you might not even have a second round. Pick
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  who would even you, know so he got that high happening. Already,
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  uh it just seems like dysfunction is surrounds this.
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  Speaker 2: TEAM i would agree with.
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  Speaker 5: YOU i think the only thing that would give you
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  a little bit of you, know, listen if you're not
• 18:13
  gonna have the greatest personnel or you're gonna have, injuries
• 18:15
  you need a good coaching. Staff AND i do. BELIEVE
• 18:18
  i know some people wouldn't agree with, me BUT i
• 18:20
  Think Kevin stefanski is a good. COACH i, remember you,
• 18:22
  know two years ago they won double digit games where
• 18:24
  they Had flacco coming in and you, know basically leading
• 18:28
  them back to the playoffs with his with his. PLAY
• 18:31
  i think, Offensively Kevin stefanski knows how to.
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  Speaker 4: Coach he just got. To and of, course you know
• 18:35
  they trained Away Amari.
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  Speaker 5: Cooper they don't really have a wide receiver Among Cedric,
• 18:39
  Tillman Jerry judy And Deontay johnson of all, people that's gonna,
• 18:44
  really you, know make you make you really inspired by
• 18:47
  what they can do, offensively especially with THEIR o line
• 18:50
  and quarterback. Play But stefanski is a good, coach AND
• 18:53
  i Think Jim schwartz has obviously proven to be a
• 18:55
  very good decoordinator in this. League so, Hopefully i'm sure
• 18:59
  The browns are are banking on, that hoping that they're
• 19:02
  coaching can help them overcome their their personnel.
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  Speaker 4: Issues all, Right.
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  Speaker 1: Jeff boscher sitting in THE Uh andrew to Check o
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  seat today and normally at the end of these previews
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  THE Afc, North Jeff, Bocher, so how will they finish
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  Speaker 4: Season The ravens will win THE Afc.
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  Speaker 2: North, RAVENS i just.
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  Speaker 5: You know, Again i'm Gonna i'm gonna pay the price for,
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  this But i'm gonna put The bengals To steelers three
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  In brown four since he two do it every, Year,
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  MIKE i guess that goes to my point about if
• 19:39
  you're not gonna have the greatest personnel on one side
• 19:41
  of the, ball three, coaches you.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: Know, well you know, what they signed a deal with the.
• 19:45
  Devil this time they tried to break for The steelers
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  low and now they're gonna pay for. IT i agree
• 19:49
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• 19:53
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• 19:57
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• 20:00
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• 20:04
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• 20:06
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