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6-02-26 Hour 3 - MacFarland headed to Nashville?/Spurs meteoric rise/Stanley Cup Final, NFL fluke seasons · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 2: All right, so big news of the day came down recently.
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  Speaker 2: Chris McFarland has been given permission to talk to the
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  Speaker 2: Nashville Predators. Now what all of this means what he's
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  Speaker 2: I'm assuming this is for a president of hockey ops job.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think it'd be a lateral move. Well, if
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  Speaker 3: it's a lateral move for I don't know what it
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  Speaker 3: would be, I think you wouldn't allow.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm saying most you wouldn't allow somebody to talk
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  Speaker 2: to somebody else about the same job.
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  Speaker 3: That is well, correct, That is correct. If it's an
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  Speaker 3: opportunity for him to advance, that's probably a pretty damn
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  Speaker 3: big thing. An opportunity for more responsibility to pretty damn
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  Speaker 3: big thing. It's maybe a new challenge for him because
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  Speaker 3: the prebs are a bit down. Yeah, that's another big thing.
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  Speaker 3: The opportunity to shape the roster the way, you know,
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  Speaker 3: on his own as the as the guy, that's a
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  Speaker 3: pretty big thing. I mean, it depends on what kind
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  Speaker 3: of aspirations somebody has as an executive in pro sports. Sure,
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  Speaker 3: I will say this. I think he's very happy being
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  Speaker 3: the general manager of the Colorado Avalanche. He's done a
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  Speaker 3: terrific job. He's he's a law he's a law graduate.
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  Speaker 3: He's got a lot of super smart background ahead of him,
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  Speaker 3: or excuse me, behind him, I should say a lot
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  Speaker 3: of super smart background, and has got a lot of
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  Speaker 3: life ahead of him. He's got, you know, all kinds
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  Speaker 3: of things that could present themselves. And if I'm a
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  Speaker 3: guy too, you know what I'm I may be as
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  Speaker 3: happy as a clam. But at this opportunity in my life,
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  Speaker 3: this point, I've earned the right to hear what somebody
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  Speaker 3: else has to say.
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  Speaker 4: Gotta listen.
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  Speaker 3: And maybe he just wants to hear what somebody else
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  Speaker 3: has to say. There's nothing wrong with that either. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you're let's say you're a free agent, even in the
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  Speaker 3: NHL or any sport you love playing where you're playing,
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  Speaker 3: but you're a UFA and the teams to say I'd
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  Speaker 3: like to talk to you, I think you ow it
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  Speaker 3: to yourself to talk to him, even if you want
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  Speaker 3: to stay with where you're comfortable and happy. Who knows.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, if there's any solace in this, let's say that
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  Speaker 2: something does go down and he takes he takes the
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  Speaker 2: job in Nashville and whatever capacity that is. It's not
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  Speaker 2: as if the Apps are just left holding this bag
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  Speaker 2: of like we have to now find a GM. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I know that you do. But Sackic's there. He did
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  Speaker 2: the role before that, He's doing at least a huge
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  Speaker 2: helping of the role right now. Anyway, It's not as
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  Speaker 2: if you're starting from scratch at that position. Again, you're
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  Speaker 2: basically just finding somebody to work with Joe Sakic, right correct.
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  Speaker 3: But again, Chris offers I think a unique perspective because
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  Speaker 3: Joe was a hockey player, understands a lot of that
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  Speaker 3: side of things. Chris is also a very smart financial
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  Speaker 3: guy and lawyer type guy, understands a lot of that
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  Speaker 3: in addition to the hockey. I just look, look, he
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  Speaker 3: was here if I was another team around the league
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  Speaker 3: and I wanted to hire somebody to sort of help
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  Speaker 3: rebuild my situation. He got hired before well let's see,
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  Speaker 3: but buh, yeah, he got hired when Joe took over.
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  Speaker 3: I'm trying to think, man, was it twenty fifteen. He
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  Speaker 3: was here before the quote rebuild. It was the stripping
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  Speaker 3: down of the WA team and then it was the
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  Speaker 3: building of the There you go. So he's been around
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  Speaker 3: and he's helped do all of that. He's got a
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  Speaker 3: great deal of knowledge in that regard, so I would
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  Speaker 3: think that his brain would be something that I would
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  Speaker 3: like to have.
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  Speaker 2: So there's a couple of big questions, you know, personnel
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  Speaker 2: stuff aside, because there's questions enough on that if you
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  Speaker 2: want to make moves, big moves in the off season,
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  Speaker 2: if you want to trade guys like I don't know
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  Speaker 2: you're Rock Nelson's or VAL's or whatever we're talking about
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  Speaker 2: with the Apps. From a personnel standpoint, they have two
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  Speaker 2: gigantic questions now to answer of positions of importance, which is,
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  Speaker 2: we still don't know the status of the coach and
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  Speaker 2: now we don't know the status or your GM. Both
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  Speaker 2: of them are kind of up in the air for
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  Speaker 2: different reasons, I suppose, but the same sort of question
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  Speaker 2: remains of are they going to be here or not?
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  Speaker 2: And we still for those wondering, I haven't seen anything
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  Speaker 2: about the end of season presser when that's going to
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  Speaker 2: take place, and there's been a lot of things that
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  Speaker 2: they've had to take care of from you know, Claude
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  Speaker 2: Lemieux's funeral and a whole bunch of other stuff they
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  Speaker 2: had to figure out. But still don't know when that's
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  Speaker 2: coming yet, has not been announced.
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  Speaker 3: So we'll see.
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  Speaker 2: Because I am curious and I mentioned this sort of
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  Speaker 2: at the top mode, my assumption is going to be
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  Speaker 2: whenever this press conference takes place, if there has not
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  Speaker 2: been a change at coach or whatever by then or
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  Speaker 2: GM and maybe this is part of them, like we'll
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  Speaker 2: wait to see what happens with McFarland in this conversation
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  Speaker 2: with Nashville before we do this.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe there's certain levers that need to be pushed. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: they're waiting. I mean, what's the hurry here? True? What
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  Speaker 4: exactly is the hurry on this decision or decisions?
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  Speaker 2: Well, my whole thing regarding especially the Bednar part of this,
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  Speaker 2: because McFarland his job wasn't in danger. The only thing
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  Speaker 2: that's that's up for question is if he takes another
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  Speaker 2: job elsewhere. The coach question is one that's up in
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  Speaker 2: the air right now. And in regards to Bednar, my
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  Speaker 2: assumption would be they aren't having a press conference without
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  Speaker 2: making that decision, and if they have it and they
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  Speaker 2: haven't fired him yet, that would tell me he's probably
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  Speaker 2: still going to be the coach, right right, because I
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  Speaker 2: don't think they would have that press conference going into
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  Speaker 2: it fielding. I would assume like the majority of the
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  Speaker 2: questions would be what's going on there? And if they
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  Speaker 2: don't have an answer by then, they wouldn't want to
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  Speaker 2: do that.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know how to say this without sounding like,
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  Speaker 3: what do you call it, chill Homer whatever? Bug eater,
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  Speaker 3: bug eater. That's for Nebraska fans. But they're they're right there.
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  Speaker 3: I know that that's swept by venue. You mean, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: the team is right there. Dude, it's right there. It's
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  Speaker 3: got a text. Probably shouldn't even respond to it. Abs
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  Speaker 3: are sinking ship. Many people will look to get out
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  Speaker 3: while they can't.
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  Speaker 4: That's hilarious.
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  Speaker 3: They are not that. I can promise you that.
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  Speaker 5: Well.
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  Speaker 3: I can tell you this.
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  Speaker 2: The thes are.
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  Speaker 3: And the only reason you have that sort of of
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  Speaker 3: perspectives if you're a fan of another team and you
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  Speaker 3: hope that that's the case, or you're completely irrational and blind,
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  Speaker 3: they aren't a sinking ship.
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  Speaker 2: But I will say this the Avs have been in
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  Speaker 2: this place of championship contention for years now. I think
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  Speaker 2: that you now see the ticking clock. They aren't out
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  Speaker 2: of it, but you know, like, hey, there's a lot
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  Speaker 2: of guys that are in their thirties.
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  Speaker 4: Now.
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  Speaker 2: You don't know how much longer this ride's gonna go.
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  Speaker 3: Sure, it's hard to win in the NHL. Again, I
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  Speaker 3: go back to those teams with Hall of famers up
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  Speaker 3: and down the line. If they won two five years apart.
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  Speaker 3: When the Avs lost to the Dallas Stars in the
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  Speaker 3: year two thousand after they had traded for Raymond Bork,
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  Speaker 3: anybody come out and say they're a sinking ship with
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  Speaker 3: Sakkik and Forstburg and and Foot and Bark and all.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you see what I'm saying, They're a sinking
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  Speaker 3: ship when the Avs won there, When the Avs one
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  Speaker 3: in twenty twenty two, you start looking at ages. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: McKinnon with the Avs won, is the same age sakic
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  Speaker 3: one in ninety six, Yeah, it'll be the same age
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  Speaker 3: sakic one and oh one. Mccarr is basically mimicking Forsburg's
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  Speaker 3: age time frame. I'm just saying that it's it's really
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  Speaker 3: hard to win in this league, and they're right there,
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  Speaker 3: and that's not you don't you don't stop trying, you
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  Speaker 3: don't stop making moves. Pierre Laquand never stopped doing that.
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  Speaker 3: But the margins, I'm tired of even talking about the margins.
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  Speaker 3: They're tiny, and it's friggin hard. Everybody wants what they want,
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  Speaker 3: everybody wants what I want. I want them to win.
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  Speaker 3: I want them to win all the time. No excuses, man,
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  Speaker 3: no excuses. But I know how friggin hard it is
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  Speaker 3: on top of that, and that's I'm not making I'm
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  Speaker 3: not I'm not excusing away a season where I thought
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  Speaker 3: they were going to win it all. I truly truly did,
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  Speaker 3: and I was wrong.
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  Speaker 2: So the big news coming down in the NFL yesterday
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  Speaker 2: was two massive trades, AJ Brown to the Patriots and
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  Speaker 2: Miles Garrett to the Rams. Did you guys happen to
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  Speaker 2: see something else Rams related that happened yesterday after this
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  Speaker 2: trade was announced? No, Aaron Donald posted a workout session
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  Speaker 2: with him doing the house tag.
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  Speaker 3: Ready. No, no, no, there's no way he's coming back.
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  Speaker 3: He looks like it. Well, now, remember this, Aaron Donald
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  Speaker 3: retired really young.
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  Speaker 2: He's I know, thirty five is old in football terms,
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  Speaker 2: but still not like unplayably old. No, did Aaron Donald
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  Speaker 2: see Mills Garrett and like would be fun? But I
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  Speaker 2: don't even But how do you I mean, the Rams
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  Speaker 2: have so much guys that they're paying money to.
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  Speaker 3: How could you even do that? But who knows? But
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  Speaker 3: why would he come back or why would he post
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  Speaker 3: a work? Everybody wouldn't say ready, ready for what the summer?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, what.
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  Speaker 3: Vittorio Aaron Donald? You want to talk about an absolute refrigerator,
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  Speaker 3: an absolute sculpted ice box.
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  Speaker 4: Well, you know, Miles Garrett's a closest thing to him
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  Speaker 4: right now in the league.
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  Speaker 2: They might be two of in my lifetime. Okay, I'm
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  Speaker 2: trying to think, and I know there's plenty of guys
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  Speaker 2: that existed, you know, when I was young, But from
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  Speaker 2: my lifetime, the two most dominant defensive players are probably
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  Speaker 2: Miles Garrett Aaron Donald.
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  Speaker 3: Scene what position today?
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  Speaker 4: I thought was pretty damn for a couple of years. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: and then he got he played dirty and he got
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  Speaker 4: a little crazy.
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  Speaker 2: Donald threw every year of his He had a twenty
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  Speaker 2: sax season as a defensive tackle.
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  Speaker 3: Man. Dude, he's a defensive east his mid thirties. Now
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  Speaker 3: he's a defensive tackle essentially. Can you imagine Garrett on
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  Speaker 3: an end and Donald in the middle. If you're an
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  Speaker 3: old line, you don't have enough human beings to throw
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  Speaker 3: at them. What are you a double team both of them?
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  Speaker 3: And then what then it's an absolute field. I don't
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  Speaker 3: think with his flute tucked in his pocket could get
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  Speaker 3: twelve sacks. I still don't I love that.
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  Speaker 2: I still don't think that Aaron Donald is coming back.
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  Speaker 2: I just I think logistically it's too hard because he'd
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  Speaker 2: be making twenty some million dollars a year, and I
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  Speaker 2: don't think they just have that cap space line around
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  Speaker 2: there somewhere.
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  Speaker 3: Let me tell you something, if Everon Donald decided to
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  Speaker 3: come back, I'd say, someone's gone. It's been nice knowing
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  Speaker 3: you later. Forget Brett, Hey, Brett, Brett, thanks for all
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  Speaker 3: your hard work out.
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  Speaker 2: Forget football terms, human terms. Aaron Donald looks at me
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  Speaker 2: and goes, I'm play again. I can't tell that man, no,
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  Speaker 2: why will kill me?
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  Speaker 4: He'll kill me.
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  Speaker 3: Aaron Donald is one of the biggest studs in the
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  Speaker 3: history of the game. I mean a total When you
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  Speaker 3: talk about stud it's Aaron Donald.
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  Speaker 2: So, uh, can I say one more thing before the
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  Speaker 2: It was really cool because one of my favorite players
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  Speaker 2: growing up in basketball was was White Chocolate. Do you
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  Speaker 2: see Jason Williams kid is playing in the women's College
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  Speaker 2: World Series. She had to walk off during this. Seeing
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  Speaker 2: him react that way, it was really cool. But I
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  Speaker 2: didn't realize. You know, nil money is going crazy and
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  Speaker 2: you expect that in football and basketball, in these big sports.
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  Speaker 2: Do you know how much money some of these softball
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  Speaker 2: girls are making?
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  Speaker 3: Oh?
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  Speaker 4: I know, Texas Tech. They're paying top, top of the
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  Speaker 4: line money, Texas Tech, Texas. Oh you those teams Arkansas.
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  Speaker 2: Nebraska was in it. They got eliminated, but they had
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  Speaker 2: the player of the year. It's a pitcher names Jordi
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  Speaker 2: from and they were given some backstory on her on
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  Speaker 2: like how she got there. She was transfer She's from Nebraska,
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  Speaker 2: went to Oklahoma, I think came back. So I don't
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  Speaker 2: know how much money she's making, but enough money for this.
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  Speaker 2: Imagine this for a second college softball player.
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  Speaker 3: She's married.
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  Speaker 2: She got married like six months ago, took her in
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  Speaker 2: al money and just bought a farm and like eighty animals.
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  Speaker 3: That's her life now.
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  Speaker 4: Did she quit?
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  Speaker 3: I think she's done. I think this was her last year.
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  Speaker 4: So, yeah, what do you do after college softball?
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  Speaker 2: I guess I guess she runs a farm.
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  Speaker 4: No, but there's no pro leagues? Are there? Are there
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  Speaker 4: pro leagues?
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  Speaker 3: I don't think so.
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  Speaker 2: I mean they do. Jenny Finch made some money doing
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  Speaker 2: some stuff back in the day, didn't she. I didn't
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  Speaker 2: think it was a pro league, but maybe Olympic.
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  Speaker 3: Stuff and something like that.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: But it's just like, so you're making enough money playing
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  Speaker 2: college softball that you're just gonna throw like a million
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  Speaker 2: bucks at all this land and just be like, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I'm just gonna have a farm with animals.
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  Speaker 4: Now, what else is she gonna do in softball pro leagues?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know, man. But I got
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  Speaker 3: a chewy bar in Gatorade mix.
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  Speaker 2: Was our stuff that we got in between games when
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  Speaker 2: I played college baseball.
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  Speaker 3: That's what we got.
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  Speaker 4: Because I suck.
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  Speaker 3: That's true, very true. I would not just so much different.
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  Speaker 3: I've been watching some of these gals pitch. I would
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  Speaker 3: not want to stand in the box and try to hit. Dude.
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  Speaker 3: They are throwing some nasty stuff and it comes at you,
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  Speaker 3: what's it forty feet? What is this something like that? Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I mean it is die a the ball explodes in
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  Speaker 3: the strike.
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  Speaker 2: So a seventy five mille hour softball pitch, I think
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  Speaker 2: is equivalent to one hundred in baseball. Yeah, and all
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  Speaker 2: of them are throwing like seventy to seventy five, all
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  Speaker 2: of them.
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  Speaker 4: Texts say there is a pro softball league.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's right. And she was pregnant while she
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  Speaker 3: was playing in the women's College World Series. He said
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  Speaker 3: that afterwards, it's crazy there is a pro softball league.
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  Speaker 2: Though I wonder how much they get paid to do that.
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  Speaker 6: That's probably one of those leagues where you take a
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  Speaker 6: step down, right, nil money versus money.
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  Speaker 2: Pro softball league pace. Let's see here, uh anywhere from
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  Speaker 2: thirty to seventy five.
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  Speaker 3: Thousand and she and some of these guys are making
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  Speaker 3: a million bucks dealing from the hill. Yeah it's not
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  Speaker 3: even a hill, it's flat. Yeah, it's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: Three oh three, five, four oh nine two five back
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  Speaker 2: after this, here's a big question. After witnessing the Spurs
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  Speaker 2: out dual the thunder in a Game seven in Okay,
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: see something I did not expect. They turned chet Holmgren,
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  Speaker 2: which I never thought he was an amazing player, but
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: he's good like Chet Holmgren's good, and he was an
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  Speaker 2: absolute nothing, a zero. The final two games of that
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: series has the NBA's implementation of all the things that
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  Speaker 2: we hate about the cap, with apron and taxes and
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  Speaker 2: repeaters and bird rights and all these different things. Have
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  Speaker 2: they accomplished their goal? This is gonna be the eighth
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  Speaker 2: straight year of a new champion.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Is this what they This is kind of what they
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  Speaker 2: implemented the rules for. Is that nobody dominates for an
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  Speaker 2: extended stretch.
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  Speaker 4: It's interesting.
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  Speaker 6: I heard a national show talk about how all of
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  Speaker 6: these CBA changes they've made over the last decade have
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  Speaker 6: killed the NBA. And as much as I'm confused by the.
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  Speaker 4: CBA and I don't like some of the structures in place,
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  Speaker 4: I think it's quite the opposite. I'll ask you, guys,
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  Speaker 4: which version of the league do you prefer. Do you
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  Speaker 4: want to see the Golden State era where it's the
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  Speaker 4: same two teams in the finals every.
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  Speaker 3: Year not me? Or do you want to see it
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  Speaker 3: unless it's my team? Then I don't mind it, But
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  Speaker 3: but no, I prefer to see I prefer to see
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  Speaker 3: a lot of different teams get a shot if they
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  Speaker 3: do things right, like I would prefer this. I suppose
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  Speaker 3: the NBA. I I think they kind of liked.
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  Speaker 2: The Golden State and Cleveland four straight years, even though
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  Speaker 2: there wasn't a lot of like variants within the league.
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  Speaker 2: You're talking about your highest brands as far as players
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  Speaker 2: like Steph Currie and Lebron James, you're in the finals.
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  Speaker 3: I mean they had. The NBA has a unique situation
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  Speaker 3: in that the best players, the fewest players have the
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  Speaker 3: biggest effect on the game, the fewest number of players. Sure,
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  Speaker 3: you can only have five guys on the floor at
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  Speaker 3: any given time, and maybe you go seven eight deep
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  Speaker 3: max in the postseason with these really great teams, right Brett, Yeah, right, Vic.
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  Speaker 3: So therefore you can get your super teams and those
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: guys can have dynasties and they can win more and
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: so on and so forth. And the league also had
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: a problem where you had players who would just go
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: to these gigantic markets and everybody else was an all
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: seran and a left out. So you have to have
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: viable teams in smaller markets otherwise you don't have a league.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: Well, KD to the Warriors is what I think really
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: put this to the forefront. It's like, we can't have
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: a team that won seventy three games in the regular
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: season then acquire somebody like Kevin Durant on top of it.
• 18:19
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's silly, but you know what Oklahoma City the
• 18:22
  Speaker 6: way it's built, and they took great advantage of the
• 18:26
  Speaker 6: new CBA rules and they were very.
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: Smart acquiring all those picks. It's interesting.
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: I thought, I honestly thought OKAC was impenetrable. I thought
• 18:37
  Speaker 6: that team had dynasty written all over it. And then
• 18:41
  Speaker 6: I saw them lose at home in Game seven, and
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: I don't want to listen what I don't want to
• 18:45
  Speaker 6: hear from OKC and it makes me mad. Wow, you
• 18:49
  Speaker 6: know Jalen Williams was hurt. Dude, last year you beat
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: two teams with hurt players.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't want to hear it. Well, here's what's.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: Crazy is after the got bounced, I said that that
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: broke my brain. Like I it was hard for me
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: to compute how the hell that happened for a team
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: that I was convinced was the best team in hockey
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: and looked every bit of it up until that Vegas series.
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: And I just go, I don't know what to do
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: with this.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: In the NBA, there's been this long standing thought, hey man,
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: you can't. You can't rise to the top without having
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: some stumbles along the way. And the Spurs incredibly young team.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: Yes they have star players on it, but they hadn't
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: they they didn't experience the playoff pains, they didn't experience
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: the uh oh second round. We lost in six to
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: this team. But this is all part of the winning process.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: They just jumped it. They've jumped the entire line.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: And not in the Eastern Conference where you can blow
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: past a Calves team and then get past a Pistons
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: team that hasn't been there. They did it against a
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: team that was seen as a juggernaut.
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: I'm trying to think mos who's the last and in
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: San Antonio is gonna be favored in the finals, although
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: I think the Knicks could very well win it. Who's
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: the last team to enter the fray in the NBA?
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: Out of nowhere?
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: Like that?
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: When I say out of nowhere didn't go through that
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: playoff pain before advancy?
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: Well, it's a g great.
• 20:21
  Speaker 6: Questionscky NBA an NBA champion and the deal hasn't done yet.
• 20:28
  Speaker 6: San Antonio still has to win it. Yeah, but give
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: me the last NBA champion that didn't have to pay the.
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: Playoff tax before they won it. Because this team won
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: thirty four games last year.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: Guys, Yeah, didn't Golden State kind of come out. I'm
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: not not out of nowhere, but it only maybe had
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: a year or two max. Right before.
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: They beat the Nuggets that season, but they didn't win
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: at all.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: Are you talking about twenty fifteen their first one? What
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: are they doing twenty fourteen beat the Nugget.
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: Wasn't it the year that beat the Nuggets in the
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: first round?
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: I mean they were a fifty one win team.
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: So that's not out of nowhere. I mean, fifty one
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: wins in the NBA is still a pretty damn good
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: win total. Dudes, that's still pretty good.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: They the year before that, they lost to the Clippers
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: in seven games in the first round, but I mean
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: made the playoffs.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: It doesn't happen. The moral to this story. It can
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: happen in other sports, it usually doesn't happen in the NBA.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: You know, you'll just go watching it. You just still
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: go from thirty four to champion. You just don't do that.
• 21:39
  Speaker 6: The fact we're watching it happen is truly remarkable. And
• 21:42
  Speaker 6: that's what I sat there to watch that game and
• 21:44
  Speaker 6: I go, oh my god, this team is answering every challenge.
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: You know, in that fourth quarter, every time Oklahoma City
• 21:51
  Speaker 6: cut into that lead, there's a San Antonio player making
• 21:55
  Speaker 6: a play. And it's not just Wemby. It was Dylan Harper,
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: it was Champagne, it was Darren.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: Fox with the Big Three, dude, the acquisition of Darren
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: Fox from Sacramento.
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: That block by Luke Cordnett.
• 22:09
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that that dunk by that I mean, by the way,
• 22:13
  Speaker 6: what did you guys think about that dunk in the game,
• 22:15
  Speaker 6: because I know we were up in arms over Yeah McDaniel.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: Ye, but it's against, it's it's against.
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: It's when when it when it doesn't affect your team,
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: you're fine with.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: It kind of Yeah, well put it this way. I'm
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: more fine with it. I know that I'm totally great
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: with it, but I'm more fine with it. Yeah. Yep, VI,
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: I don't know when this is.
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. Go ahead and look into the
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: history books, right, it doesn't happen. It doesn't happen.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm all the way back to the seventies
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: right now, and I'm still searching.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: Were doing in the seventies.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to find the last team that just kind
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: of came out.
• 22:47
  Speaker 6: Of live in the moment, Brett Can I offer as
• 22:54
  Speaker 6: a show our heartfelt condolences to UH coach David Adelman
• 22:58
  Speaker 6: and his family yesterday, And it's crazy how this works.
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: I got a text from coach about the passing of
• 23:04
  Speaker 6: my dad at my dad's funeral, and two hours later, Yeah,
• 23:10
  Speaker 6: it was announced his dad passed.
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: And it was awful to hear that. Rick Adelman is
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: a Hall of Famer. He's one of the best coaches
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: in NBA history. He did it with multiple teams.
• 23:21
  Speaker 6: Hell could have won a title in Sacramento, of all places,
• 23:24
  Speaker 6: they said it's not possible. In Sacramento, he took the
• 23:27
  Speaker 6: Lakers to seven games. That team was amazing.
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: Great coach, just a great coach. And it's awful to
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: hear the news yesterday.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, thoughts go out to the Adaman family again, Vick,
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: you said it.
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: Hall of Fame coach.
• 23:42
  Speaker 6: And Portland Minnesota Easton in addition to Sacramento.
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: He's played coached in a lot of different places.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: People are throwing out the Raptors, by the way, and
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: I don't think you guys understand. Demarga, Rosen, Kyle Lowry
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: had that team in the playoffs every year. They got
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: bounced by Lebron every years. The problem like, they were
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: a good team that went through a bunch of playoff losses.
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah they didn't go from thirty four to championship.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: Now they When you acquire Kawhi for a year, yeah
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: you get elevated.
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: But I don't know.
• 24:13
  Speaker 6: You guys read the text that our boy and Nelly
• 24:16
  Speaker 6: just sent over and I didn't. So, according to Elliott Friedman,
• 24:22
  Speaker 6: here's the latest on Chris McFarlane. According to several sources,
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: McFarland met face to face last night with Nashville owner
• 24:32
  Speaker 6: Bill Haslam. The goal is for the Predators to close
• 24:36
  Speaker 6: this deal quickly. They know they have to find the
• 24:39
  Speaker 6: keys to hand over to McFarland and are prepared to
• 24:42
  Speaker 6: do it.
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: Stay tuned.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: So he would be the ultimate one in charge of
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: hockey decisions. I wonder if Nick Saban was a part
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: of that discussion. Isn't he a part on of that
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: team now? Is he Yeah, Nick Saban brought him to
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: the Preds.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: In other hockey news, By the way, Zach Rowinsky is
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: the Norris Trophy winner.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: Okay, cool, Carl surprised by that. Had a fantastic season,
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: had a really good season. You know, do you want
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: to give Jared Bennar some credit to when they won
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: the Calder before Zach Warinsky was just a nineteen year
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: old kid playing in the AHL for Jerry Bednar. I
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: think Bed's put him on a really good path to
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: be a terrific pro. Now he's dealt with some injuries
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: and whatnot, but he had a really phenomenal comeback year.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: This year I called a comeback year. But he's always
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: been very good. I can see that. I knew it
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: was gonna be tight.
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: This is Is this an upset?
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: I don't know if it's an upset other than well,
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: Rinsky plays for the Blue Jay. He's a very very
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: good player. This is an interesting thing.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: I know we're bouncing everywhere right now in hockey, but
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: I just saw this from Raja.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: I think this is interesting. He threw out.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: After the announcement of the Predators were given permission to
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: speak with McFarland he said. The big question here, do
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: the Avalanche believe Cogliano is ready? Remember Kagliano's in the
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: front office. He's the special assistant to Chris McFarland right now.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: Is his job title?
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: Now? Maybe the groom to do. But Coggs has a
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: different background.
• 26:28
  Speaker 6: Cogs is a former player like Sakik, right, McFarland has
• 26:31
  Speaker 6: a much different background than the two of them.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the thing is, do you put him maybe in
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: the role and have the guiding hand of Joe Sakkik,
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: who's done it already, and have him sort of be
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: you know, a crutch for someone in that situation or
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: most are the avs too far along to where you
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: aren't playing the we're gonna guide this guy in a
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: position of that level.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: Well, I think Coggs. Let me say this about dry Colo,
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: very smart, very studious, very intentional person. You know, Vic Brett,
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: Joe Sakeek had to learn that role as well. Yeah,
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: he went in and was just sort of of a
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: learning on the job kind of guy really under Pierre Lacroix. Sure,
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: until Pierre was finally out and so on and so forth,
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: and I mean built the team in his own eyes.
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: Eventually and they ended up becoming a Stanley Cup champion.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: I can see the same kind of thing happening with
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: it Andrew Cogliano because he was always one of those guys. Well,
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: he was just an absolute worker. You knew that.
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: But who's your contract guy?
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: Great question. I don't know that and I don't know
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: the answer to that.
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: So he semak the contract guy.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: He was definitely is is hockey similar to vick I
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: feer member, who I mean he is?
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: Let me let me say what he is? Yes, he is.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: If you remember, there was a game, a late National
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: TV game against Philly, and I was hosting this thing
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: before the game. For this this group up in the
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Continental Divide room with two guys with the Avs that
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: were are sorry the Nuggets. They had roles that I'd
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: never heard of before, and their roles were specifically. One
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: of their roles was I'm the guy to make sure
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: that we're cap compliant with all the stuff. So when
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: we want to convert Spencer Jones into a two way
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: contract or from a two way to a full time contract,
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: I need to make sure that everything is lining up correctly.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: Do the Avs have a.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: Million guys like that that maybe people are unaware of that.
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: Do those specific roles not a million, but yes they have.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: They have very smart people who are very good with numbers.
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: And I say, and when I say that with Chris
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: only because his background has been I mean, look, he's
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: been in hockey an awfully long time. I mean it's
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: a you know what I mean, I never played he
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: never played it at an incredibly high level. I'm talking
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: about pro hockey. But he knows the game inside out,
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: and he's he's got a law background, business background and
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: so on.
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: Is he a lawyer?
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: Yes?
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: Wow, So this this tends to make I don't know
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: if he's a lawyer, but he graduated law school.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: I know that this.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: Tends to make more sense. So someone's done taking to
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: be the GM.
• 29:29
  Speaker 6: It's just we're like, all these guys have all these
• 29:33
  Speaker 6: NBA's and law schools.
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: We're dumb.
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: I may be I may be an idiot. I may
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: be on the scale. I may be down at idiot level. Dude.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: If we criticize moves that the ABS make with the
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: guy like falling there, he's like, what is.
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: This dumb dumb saying about me? This?
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: No nothing, I mean here we are talking about ah
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: just monumental mistakes.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: The need to get more physical.
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, while he's probably thinking, is that I got like
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: two major degrees. This guy doesn't even know who carries
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: his car insurance.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: By the way, just as we're on the subject of
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: everything changing everywhere for the as right now, this is
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: David Pagnada on the off the roster Podnoda Pinota. Sorry,
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: that's why Chris mc carl would make fun of me.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: This is what he said about if Bednar were to
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: be let go, here's some teams that might take an interest.
• 30:34
  Speaker 7: There were a lot of question marks and a lot
• 30:35
  Speaker 7: of people last week wondering what Bennar's future was going
• 30:38
  Speaker 7: to be in Colorado. You know, I think the Leafs,
• 30:40
  Speaker 7: I think the Oilers, I think even the Kings were
• 30:42
  Speaker 7: curious as well as to well, if he will he
• 30:45
  Speaker 7: become available, and if he does, how do we how
• 30:47
  Speaker 7: do we pounce on this opportunity. He's got one year
• 30:49
  Speaker 7: left on his contract, so he'll be entering the final
• 30:52
  Speaker 7: year of his deal for next season. So I'm sure
• 30:55
  Speaker 7: there's gonna be some type of discussion there as to
• 30:57
  Speaker 7: whether or not, you know, is there an extension in place?
• 30:59
  Speaker 7: Are we going to see how things go before we
• 31:01
  Speaker 7: get to that. You know, this isn't a lame duck
• 31:03
  Speaker 7: scenario because of just how good of a coach he is,
• 31:06
  Speaker 7: but you know, sometimes you just want to see where
• 31:08
  Speaker 7: things are at.
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: This is what he thinks interesting.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: Everybody's wondering when this end of the season press conferences,
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: including myself, Well, you probably need an answer to McFarland
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: in Nashville first before you do this, before you put
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: them up on a podium, and then it becomes are
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: you staying or going the whole time.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: You also, something I didn't consider.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: You almost never see a coach coaching with no years
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: beyond his final contract. So whether you're letting him go
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: keeping him around, you would think one of two things
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: is gonna happen. He's either gonna be gone or you
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: got to iron out like at least another year or
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: two on an extension.
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: Right that confuses things too, certainly does. And you have
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: the draft coming up in about three and a half weeks.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of moving parts right now, a lot,
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: But all we know for the moment is that Chris
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: McFarland has been granted permission to speak with Nashville.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: And I also know this is a really good hockey club.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: It sucks that two sucks.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah that too, three oh three five O four oh
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: nine two five fact check her.
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: Next, you're gonna watch tonight, Vick. You're gonna watch tonight. Yeah, Yeah,
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna watch. I feel like I have to. I'm
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: just not gonna be I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: be unhappy watching it. Gocaynes. Yeah, there's a lot of
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: people though in Carolina, guys that I like, not only
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: with the team, but I don't have a problem with Rod,
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: Brenda Moore. I like people with the organization. I hope
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: the best for them, I really do. They haven't won
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: in twenty years.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: Isn't it doesn't Brendanmore have that crazy stat like he
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: has been either a player or a coach for ninety
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: eight of their hundred playoff wins or something like that
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: team in history.
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: That's nuts and good on him. I mean, hey, look
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: at this. Yeah, they they took the Miko thing themselves.
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: They had him for what weeks, they spun him off
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: and and uh helped themselves when he wouldn't sign there. Yeah, yeah,
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: they've really that's a franchise with I'm guessing he feels
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: real good about that.
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: Now they've reinvented themselves a couple of times.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: They're an interesting team. Vic they've got I don't want
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: to I don't want to speak out a turn here
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: about another hockey club because I think the Abs would
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: beat the Carolina Hurricanes. It's my opinion. I'm gonna stick
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: with it. But they have a lot of players that
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: I like. Taylor Hall ended up there. You know that, right,
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: Taylor Hall is there. I mean they got eelers. You know,
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: he from from the Winnipeg Jets. He ended up there.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: They've got But but in addition that, Sebastian Ajo is
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: a nice player. Svetch Nikoff is a really nice player.
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: Seth Jarvis is a really hard nosed, nice player. But
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: they've got a lot of guys that were not cast
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: offs but kind of sent The Dedre Miller from the
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: New York Rangers ended up there in the deal Stan Covin.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: Of course they got in the Miko deal, young stud
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: that those guys gave up on. Shane gostis Bear who
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: is left for dead after his Philly career. Who's their
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: best defenseman, their best defenseman is probably uh probably Slate. Well,
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: Slaven was hurt a lot of the year. I'm trying to.
• 34:25
  Speaker 6: See the Colorado kid, right Slave, That is correct. So
• 34:29
  Speaker 6: I'm looking the reason I asked that, I'm looking at
• 34:32
  Speaker 6: the Norris Trophy final votes and Wrenski finishes first, obviously
• 34:36
  Speaker 6: wins it. Mccarr second, And I'm looking down this list
• 34:42
  Speaker 6: fourteen candidates Adam Fox fourteenth. Not a single Norris Trophy
• 34:47
  Speaker 6: finalist plays for Vegas or Carolina.
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: Yep, So how do those guys do it?
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: A blue line baby defense is overrated. No, They've got
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: just a lot of dudes. I mean, Miller's been good
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: for them. They already had Slaven, They've got uh, nikeishan
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: Is has really come on for them. He played like
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: a ton of games this year. He's a rook they got,
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: they get they They've just done a really nice job
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: with that team. So what I'm getting at here is
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: I talk about all these nice players, good player, good player.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: They don't have any superstars in Carolina. They don't have
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: a McKinnon, they don't have a mccar, they don't have
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: you know, guys of this ilk. They had Martin Nius
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: who's now a top score in the National hockey but
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: they don't have. What they have basically to me, is
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: a ton of second lines.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: Is this like the Oh four Pistons where it's like
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: they didn't have an NBA superstar but Hamilton and Bill
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: Ups and Ben Wallace and Rashid Wallas all really good players.
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: Is the same kind of idea.
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: Is it safe to say Vegas has most superstars in Carolina?
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: Yes?
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: I mean it is Michael Man, yes, correct.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I will be watching through gritted teeth, I think,
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: but it's no doubt. I'm just I'm hoping that Carolina
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: just waxes Vegas obliterates them.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: Their last two games against Montreal, they took no prisoners, dude,
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: they absolutely lit them up. Lit them up.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: So again, some of the big news that came across
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: either today and yesterday.
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: You know, Chris McFarlane is.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: Meeting with Nashville and they're heated and they're heated discussions
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: not heated.
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: Isn't angry heated up?
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: Like sexy that sort of thing. But the trades yesterday
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: in the NFL, what.
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: It's fun.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: The Broncos feel like a lot of people are treating
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: their year last year as sort of fluky, not to
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: say that they aren't good, but I don't think if
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: you ask, you know, the Chiefs or or Ravens or
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: Bengals or teams that they think are going to be
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: competitive Bills, I don't think that they consider the Broncos
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: like a top fear.
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: Are the Patriots in that category? Are they different? Like?
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: Are the Patriots a team that you consider top tier AFC?
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: Like that's that's the team you got to, that's the
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: team to be.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: No, don't. I don't consider them the team to beat?
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: Do you? The two teams in the Super Bowl?
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: I think last year would not be considered the top
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: two teams going into this season in their respective which is.
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: Crazy because they were both fourteen and three. Yeah, they
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: were both fourteen and three football teams. Yeah, playing for
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: a Super Bowl championship.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: You would think you ask people right now, who do
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: they think wins the NFC? Would more people say the
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: Rams or Seahawks.
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: Friggin Rams, man, the freaking.
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: Rams and as are the betting favorite. But what does
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: that matter?
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: Well?
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: I know, I'm just it's just weird to me that
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: it feels like both of these teams don't have like
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: belief in what they proved last year. And I think
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: the Broncos a part of that category.
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: Like if you had if.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: You asked the general NFL fan right now, who they
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: think comes out of the AFC, who would they say?
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: God, that's a good question. I think you'll get anything from.
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: Buffalo Buffalo, maybe the Pats. I'm sure you.
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: Get because it's hard, dude, it's hard to put it
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: back together again. It's hard.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: Do you still I still have this really overwhelming belief
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: the AFC if you asked that question you if you
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: ask that is so much more muddied because of the
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: different and people go straight to quarterbacks right different quarterbacks
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: you can choose from Josh Allen, Lamar Mahomes, whoever.
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: And in the NFC, who is it.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: It's like Stafford's kind of like all alone in his
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: own category of the NFC. Unless I'm missing a couple
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: of people I would think differently of outside of me.
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: Ronald doesn't earn any respect or you think that was
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: a fluke season.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: He did it two years in a row, two different times.
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: But what I'm saying so you can't he was.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: He was on the scrap heap though, But hey, So
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: how do you wrap your head around He's on the
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: scrap heap and now all of a sudden, he's that
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: you know what he is? That guy? You got to
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: give him credit. He is that guy. He's won. But
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: if I ask you this, but but would you put
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: your hard earned money on that? You would say no way,
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: Hang on, answer this question for me.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: I tell you got to start an NFL team right now,
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: and you have your choice of any quarterback in the league.
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: You can pick.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: How many names are you getting to before Sam Donald
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: gets hit?
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: Well, you're starting your team right now.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: And you got to your life is on the line.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: You need a quarterback that will win you a super
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: Bowl this year.
• 39:58
  Speaker 6: This year or future says, that's a much different question
• 40:02
  Speaker 6: this year, right now.
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: I'm going with right now.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: No no, But I'm saying, how many names are you
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: getting to before Sam Donald?
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: The Holmes?
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: I mean Josh Allen, Josh Allen, mar Jackson, and marj
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: Joe Burrow Stafford despite lost to that team, you take
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: him over Sam Donald.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts is one. I don't know about.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: Jalen, but I what about guys like Jayden Daniels and
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: Jordan Loves and people like that.
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: Justin Herbert. We didn't say so if you are, you
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: have to start your franchise with Sam Donald or Justin Herbert?
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: Who you choosing her against? All winning and rings and
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: all of that. Probably starting quarterback this year? Is Jordan
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: lover Sam Donald? That one? I don't know.
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: You guys don't believe in Sam Donald. It sounds like
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: to me, well, I.
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: Don't know why, vic. I mean, he's won, but I
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: don't know why. How how much I believe in him
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: is a different question. Yeah, yeah, that's a that's the point.
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: I believe in him. But is it this much? Is
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: it this much? Is it?
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: What's sort of the same thing as we talk about
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: with bon Nicks. The Broncos were great team, fourteen wins
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: last year, ANFC championship. He gets hurt and things kind
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: of fall apart, but the bulk of the responsibility on
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: the winning Do you consider that well a nasty defense
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: that didn't allow anybody any points and sacked everyone?
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: Or is that, oh, Nicks, I got you. If you
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: threw Jordan Love behind the Broncos offensive line and with
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: that defense, how would they look? It's a great question.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, let's and but I tell you that Packers
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: don't have any talent on the agreed agreed.
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: But let me admit this too. Beauty is in the
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: eye of the beholder. And I say that because I
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: love to watch Jordan Love throw the football. And I
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: want to watch Jordan Love throw the football all day,
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: all night, and in my dreams, I love to watch
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: him throw the football. It's a for me, it's a
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: it's a it's a personal uh you know, it's a
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: guilty pleasure, so to speak. I mean, Vick, you asked
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: the question, so I would say, put Jordan up behind
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: the Denver Broncos. Can they go fourteen and through? You're
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: damn right they can, Absolutely they will.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: You asked me the question, Vic, it sounds like or
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: you said, it sounds like you don't believe in Sam Donald.
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: Neither did Kevin O'Connell, and they won fourteen games with
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: him and he was like bye.
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: So, I mean, by all those accounts, then.
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: Is this a fluke?
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: I I think the dude, the dude could play, man.
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: I know, I think so too. Do you remember that
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: Sports Science thing?
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they they did a thing with Sam Donald when
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: he was at USC Coming out of USC. It was fascinating.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: What's that guy name, John Brincus?
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: Did he pass?
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: I mean, the.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: Perfectly nerdy name for a show called sports science. Let's
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: bring Brincus in here.
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Well, let me tell you, dude, Sam
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: Donald's reaction time, his redtime he did he passed last year?
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: I about that.
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: Oh, that's awful. He was a young guy. Here's my
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: favorite thing from that show.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: Aaron Donald hits with the force of an eighteen wheel
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: semi going at seventy miles an hour, Like it would
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: always be something like that.
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: Well, dude, watching Donald, his watching his release time reactions,
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: I mean, all this stuff was fascinating. Like he looked
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: like a prototypical superstud a role.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: This Chapman's fastball travels at this speed of a twelve
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: gage shot.
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: You're just like, all right, cool, thank you?
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: Which did he pass?
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah? I don't know. Which gets me back? It gets
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: me back to Sam Donald as a pro. Do the
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: New York Jets just screw people up? Do the New
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: York Jets just ruined people? Because he went from the
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: Jets to Carolina, and he was that Carolina got rid
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: of him. You remember he signed on with the forty
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: nine ers his backup, back up.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: We'll get a really good answer to that, because you
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: had somebody who was with the Jets left, had a
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: decent career, and now it's back.
• 44:17
  Speaker 6: We'll see name another former Jets quarterback that went on
• 44:21
  Speaker 6: to win a Super Bowl, played for the Jets and
• 44:26
  Speaker 6: won a Super Bowl thereafter.
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: As a starter or just was part of one.
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: As a starter, you have to play well.
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: I mean that's Sam donald.
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's outside of Donalds, is what I'm asking.
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: Oh, no, Vinnie, how far back we talking here?
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: I'm asking historically?
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: Do you know? Wait, do you have the answer to this.
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna have the damn answer.
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: All right, let me ask you. You can ask you
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: a question.
• 44:56
  Speaker 6: Why I brought it up, because you guys, you're the
• 44:58
  Speaker 6: one who said the Jets in quarterbacks.
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: Well, Nelly all looked that up. Give me a fact.
• 45:04
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• 45:17
  Speaker 8: We've talked a lot today about the passing of Rick Adelman,
• 45:20
  Speaker 8: Hall of Fame NBA coach and David Adelman's father. I
• 45:23
  Speaker 8: looked up some cool stats about his time coaching, and
• 45:27
  Speaker 8: when he was the head coach of the Sacramento Kings,
• 45:30
  Speaker 8: they reached the playoffs every single year that he was coach.
• 45:33
  Speaker 8: That's eight straight appearances. The team let him go in
• 45:36
  Speaker 8: two thousand and six, and then they went on a
• 45:38
  Speaker 8: seventeen year playoffs drought until twenty twenty three. And then
• 45:42
  Speaker 8: on top of that, the Kings have been in Sacramento
• 45:45
  Speaker 8: since nineteen eighty five. Yep, in those forty one years,
• 45:49
  Speaker 8: he is the only coach to make multiple playoff appearances
• 45:53
  Speaker 8: during his tenure as head coach.
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: That's crazy they stuck by the way.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: To answer your question, Vic, but he has left the
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: Jets and then went on to win a Super Bowl
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: other than Sam Darnold, but Farv and Flacco are the
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: only two other quarterbacks I think that have Super Bowl
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: wins that did play for the franchise.
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: At some point, it doesn't count. I'm talking about moving.
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: On, correct and name it obviously. Hey, last thing before
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: we're out of here today, Vick, it was it was
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: an honor and pleasure to be able to attend your
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: father's funeral yesterday, and and boy, your family was incredibly
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: strong and uh. I felt a lot of love yesterday,
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: but it was it was an honor to honor easy.
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: Did you see the Laker fan?
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: I did? In fact, I was walking. I was, well,
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: you know, I don't know if if Alexis told you
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: when you were hammered or not, but.
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: I walked, oh.
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: I know you did. I I caught up to them.
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: They were in front of me. I caught up to
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: the parking lot and I knew when I saw her
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: and then I saw him. He's a tall guy. He's tall.
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: I have a tall Lombardy for once, and so I'm like,
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: that's the guy goes, oh, here we go. That's the
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: first thing. Very beautiful to be there. Did you see
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: the Laker fan there? And he goes, he goes, yeah,
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: that's me. I said, I knew it was you because
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: I see Alexis and I gave her a hug, and
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: I'm like threaten. At least nobody said I'd be happy
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: to come on any day and talk about like no.
• 47:23
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• 47:26
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