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Jeff Legwold joins Kreckman & Lindahl 1-17-25 · Jeff Legwold ESPN Broncos Reports

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Speaker 1: You start with a job, you end with a career. Uh, Jeff,
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Speaker 1: we got a good old fashioned coach fire in today.
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Speaker 1: Ben Kott weeka out. How come? What's going on there?
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Speaker 4: Yeah?
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Speaker 3: I guess the block field goal was a little bigger
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Speaker 3: deal than they let on maybe, But now I think
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Speaker 3: a lot of this is when he came to the Broncos,
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Speaker 3: you know, he was it was kind of a west
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Speaker 3: Off with you know, package deal. You know. West Off
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Speaker 3: would be the sort of overseer, the supervisor, and and
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Speaker 3: Ben would handle the day to day at practice and
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Speaker 3: those types of things. So I think once Mike Westoff
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Speaker 3: retired this year because of health, I think that really
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Speaker 3: put him in a in a shaky spot no matter
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Speaker 3: what happened. Yeah, I mean, they did lead the league
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Speaker 3: in punt returns. You know, Marvin Mims is an all pro.
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Speaker 3: Will Nuts ties the franchise record for field goals. So
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Speaker 3: they had a lot of good stuff happened on special teams.
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Speaker 3: But they also lost two games where they had enormous
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Speaker 3: special teams gaffes. And I think it all was in
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Speaker 3: the sort of in the stew and I'm not sure,
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Speaker 3: you know, I didn't. I didn't think after being over
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Speaker 3: there this week there would be that many staff changes,
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Speaker 3: that maybe there would be one or two, But that
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Speaker 3: was that was one that was mentioned to me because
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Speaker 3: a west Off's departure, that they might just decide to
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Speaker 3: move on all right.
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Speaker 4: So I'm curious because I saw an article praising Chris
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Speaker 4: Banjo earlier in the week. Do you think it's for Rizzy,
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Speaker 4: the old special teams coach, or do they want to
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Speaker 4: hold on to Banjo.
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Speaker 3: I think they like Chris Banjo to stay. I mean,
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Speaker 3: he's Sean Payton's the guy that gave him a start
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Speaker 3: in coaching, you know it, but it maybe he's an
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Speaker 3: assistant to the new to the new arrival, you know,
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Speaker 3: whoever that is, or you know, maybe they choose to
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Speaker 3: promote him. But I think they'll they'll wait and see
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Speaker 3: who who they think they can get as they move forward.
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Speaker 1: Here talking to Jeff Legwald here on a Friday afternoon. Leggie,
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Speaker 1: you you gave an in depth breakdown this week of
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Speaker 1: the season and some of the issues plaguing this team
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Speaker 1: on ESPN dot com. And indeed, the running game was
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Speaker 1: a part of it. You pointed out by the way
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Speaker 1: leading rusher Davonte Williams five hundred and thirteen yards. I
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Speaker 1: looked that up forty second in the NFL this season,
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Speaker 1: in a year in which bow Knicks was sixth in
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Speaker 1: pass attempts. We saw the offense improved greatly, and yet
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Speaker 1: the running back thing, it's sticking out like a sore thumb.
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Speaker 1: Is it possible we could see Denver go running back
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Speaker 1: in the first round of the draft?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, they I'm not sure they placed that
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Speaker 3: kind of value, but maybe if they see that player,
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Speaker 3: you know, he he desperately wants his you know, the
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Speaker 3: joker that that role in his offense, and he I
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Speaker 3: think Wednesday was sort of the first time he admitted
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Speaker 3: publicly of how much he didn't believe he had one here,
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Speaker 3: you know, and he said something like, you don't know
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Speaker 3: until you don't have one, And that's really the first
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Speaker 3: time he's sort of let that out of the bag,
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Speaker 3: as it were. So I think they will be willing.
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Speaker 3: I mean, they showed with bow Nicks they're willing to
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Speaker 3: use high first round draft capital if they really want
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Speaker 3: the player, no matter where he's graded. So I think
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Speaker 3: certainly running back in tight end or in that early
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Speaker 3: cluster of picks, and I think either or both players
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Speaker 3: will will have all of those Joker past receiving running
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Speaker 3: ability traits that he wants.
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Speaker 4: Jeff, you did do the deep dive. I know you
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Speaker 4: and I chatted about it this week. Look the Broncos
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Speaker 4: offense basically feasts it and really, when you go back
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Speaker 4: and look, the defense had a little that going on too.
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Speaker 4: They feasted against the weaker teams. They did not so
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Speaker 4: well against the top of the conference.
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Speaker 3: I know.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Sean about you know the devil and the details
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Speaker 4: and all that stuff. How close are you to meeting
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Speaker 4: to getting to the top after doing your deep dive
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Speaker 4: after looking at the number and watching the tape, what's
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Speaker 4: the one thing they got to do or maybe what
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Speaker 4: has to improve when they face these top teams so
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Speaker 4: that this looks a little bit different next year.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think the three and outs stick out.
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Speaker 3: You know, only the New York Giants and Carolina Panthers
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Speaker 3: had more three and outs than the Broncos. They were
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Speaker 3: such an all or nothing offense. You know, the red
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Speaker 3: zone numbers were really good for the year. I think
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Speaker 3: the I think they were top seven, So that tells
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Speaker 3: you once they get in the inside the twenty, they're
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Speaker 3: scoring touchdowns. But those three and outs are very glaring
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Speaker 3: because you're giving good teams and the best quarterbacks in
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Speaker 3: the league more possessions, and the more opportunity you give
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Speaker 3: them to to beat you, the more often they will
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Speaker 3: beat you. And I think especially in the AFC, I mean,
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Speaker 3: look what you're up against, it's it's almost like you're
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Speaker 3: playing for two playoff spots if you're lucky out of
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Speaker 3: the seven just because of the quarterback ross or in
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Speaker 3: the AFC right now, so if you if you can't
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Speaker 3: stay on the field and and sort of limit the damage,
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Speaker 3: those those guys can do against your defense, I think
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Speaker 3: you're gonna have a hard time competing. And you know, look,
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Speaker 3: you know they're zero to six against the the quarterback
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Speaker 3: elite they face this year, and until they can find
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Speaker 3: a way on either side of the ball to repair that,
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Speaker 3: I think there will be a lot of battles for
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Speaker 3: the wild card spot and it'll be difficult to get
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Speaker 3: past that.
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Speaker 1: Talking to Jeff Lagwald here on a Friday afternoon divisional
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Speaker 1: weekend games, we'll get to those coming up here in
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Speaker 1: just a moment, Jeff. Amongst the Broncos own free agents,
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Speaker 1: who should they prioritize to bring back?
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Speaker 3: You know, it's just a matter of you know, I
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Speaker 3: guess I lumped Nick Bonito in there, even though he's
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Speaker 3: not really a free agent this year. But I think
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Speaker 3: this is where you start planning on are you gonna
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Speaker 3: do one of those late summer August deals to lock
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Speaker 3: him up like they did with Certain they did with
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Speaker 3: Quinn Minors. You know, they've already set precedent there and
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Speaker 3: I think they will try. But the group they have,
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Speaker 3: you know, I don't know that you know where they
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Speaker 3: sit on Chavante Williams bring him back at a certain
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Speaker 3: price or you know they're going to purge the whole
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Speaker 3: room and you know, rebuild from the ground up. He
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Speaker 3: was awful, a lot of snaps on third down, you know,
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Speaker 3: at the season's end. So I think at the right
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Speaker 3: price they look at him. But I think DJ Jones
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Speaker 3: is something they got to look at. He played a
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Speaker 3: lot of snaps and was effective in all of those
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Speaker 3: games and a big part of the you know, their
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Speaker 3: front Now he lost snap count when Malcolm Roach arrived.
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Speaker 3: But other than that, you know, I think that's another
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Speaker 3: guy at the right price they would bring back. But
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Speaker 3: I think Benito is really the one on the front burner,
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Speaker 3: even though he's not a twenty twenty five free agent.
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Speaker 4: Do you think, listening to George Payton the other day,
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Speaker 4: he was the one that dove in on the off
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Speaker 4: season plans.
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Speaker 3: I don't think.
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Speaker 4: I don't remember Sean getting too deeply involved in that.
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Speaker 4: Do you think they're big spenders or do you think
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Speaker 4: they stick with what I thought, you know, Peyton laid
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Speaker 4: out there. Let's be smart like a year ago.
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Speaker 3: Well, I think Andy, when the owner uses the word measured,
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Speaker 3: I think that tells you where they're going. And because
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Speaker 3: he's got the checkbook, so maybe they talking out of it.
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Speaker 3: You know, people in the league think Sean Payton wants
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Speaker 3: to take a swipe at a receiver, a big financial one.
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Speaker 3: You know, if that's t Higgins or not, we'll see.
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Speaker 2: Uh.
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Speaker 3: But Greg Penner, the owner, did use the word measured,
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Speaker 3: and he did sort of go on and on about
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Speaker 3: how effective that was this year, that approach, you know,
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Speaker 3: rather than the sort of cannonball they did into the
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Speaker 3: free agency the first year Peyton was here. So uh,
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Speaker 3: that's my guide post till I see something different because
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Speaker 3: the owner gets to say how much money they're gonna spend.
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Speaker 3: And again he did use the word measured.
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Speaker 1: Along those lines. Besides just the will be measured thing
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Speaker 1: that George Peyton said, and Sean Payton continuing to confess
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Speaker 1: his lifelong hatred of Russell Wilson, besides all of that,
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Speaker 1: what was there anything else that was said that really
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Speaker 1: made your antenna, your Jeff Legwalld antenna go up.
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Speaker 3: I think the measured party and when Great Tenner, you know,
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Speaker 3: gms always say that and head coaches say we're gonna
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Speaker 3: be careful and all, but the owner said it, and
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Speaker 3: I always think that's always worth noting. I also thought,
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Speaker 3: in his own way, Penner made it clear. You know,
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Speaker 3: he used the phrase hold them accountable, and you know,
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Speaker 3: the expectation is to win the division next year. He didn't.
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Speaker 3: He didn't really give him much room to wiggle around
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Speaker 3: in all this, and I think that's frankly, you know,
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Speaker 3: I don't know this, but I think that's his way
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Speaker 3: of saying, Hey, i'm I'm paying an awful lot of
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Speaker 3: people here at the top of the market, including the
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Speaker 3: head coach, and this is what I'd like for that expenditure.
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Speaker 3: And I thought that was worth noting because he did
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Speaker 3: it a few times. He you know, it was very
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Speaker 3: mild mannered, but he made it clear that, you know,
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Speaker 3: wild card losses, you know, making it back to the
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Speaker 3: playoffs was fun, but he's not real interested in wild
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Speaker 3: card losses.
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Speaker 4: What did you make of the uniform comment that the
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Speaker 4: throwbacks are well received? You know, all of Twitter decides
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Speaker 4: to pine for the days of the Broncos original uniform.
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Speaker 4: You think are we gonna have any more uniform shakeups
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Speaker 4: this offseason or do you think they're just gonna go?
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Speaker 4: And by the way, do you have any guess which
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Speaker 4: one he didn't care for because to me, it would
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Speaker 4: have been one Sunday.
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Speaker 3: But now it was the blue combo, okay, orange combo
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Speaker 3: that nobody liked. But he even said, I don't think
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Speaker 3: we'll be using that one again. So I think that
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Speaker 3: puts that on the shelf. You know that the Throwbacks,
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Speaker 3: I mean they spent an awful lot of money and
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Speaker 3: went through the whole, enormously long process the league has
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Speaker 3: for switching uniforms, and they would have to go through
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Speaker 3: it again and make it the primary uniform. It would
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Speaker 3: have to be designated. There's a whole process they'd have
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Speaker 3: to go through. It's not that they can just decide, okay,
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Speaker 3: this is the primary uniform, because you know, Nike pays
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Speaker 3: a lot of money to outfit the league, so that
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Speaker 3: they couldn't just do that on their own. It would
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Speaker 3: They would have to go through a whole process to
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Speaker 3: do it. And I don't get the sense. I get
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Speaker 3: the sense they want the Throwbacks to be sort of
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Speaker 3: special and in their own little area.
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Speaker 1: Jeff Legwold, everybody joins us on a Friday afternoon. All right, Jeff,
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Speaker 1: let's get into the matchups tomorrow. First game, two thirty
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Speaker 1: ESPN Fair Houston at Kansas City. The Chiefs injury report
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Speaker 1: this week is hilarious. Other than Mkole Hartman, everybody is
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Speaker 1: healthy on that team. The idea of a team essentially
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Speaker 1: treading water for eighteen weeks, and we should mention going
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Speaker 1: fifteen to two while treading that water and then going
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Speaker 1: into the postseason healthier than they have ever been. The
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Speaker 1: Chief's machine and the way that they're able to execute this.
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Speaker 1: We throw around the term coaching genius a lot, but
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Speaker 1: is Andy Reid really a coaching genius?
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Speaker 3: Well, I think he's learned what the coaches of the
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Speaker 3: greatest teams I've seen always learn. How much energy do
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Speaker 3: you have to expend to get to the end of
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Speaker 3: the season and still have enough to compete for the
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Speaker 3: biggest prize. So the Patriots made a living of it.
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Speaker 3: I think there were at least ten seasons in Brady's
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Speaker 3: career where we all talked about it. They didn't throw
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Speaker 3: the deep ball and they didn't look particularly good, and
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Speaker 3: or they didn't do this, or they didn't do that,
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Speaker 3: and then all they would do is show up and
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Speaker 3: win the trophy. And I think that's where the Chiefs
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Speaker 3: are at now in this you know, franchise arc is
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Speaker 3: they know exactly how much energy they need to And
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Speaker 3: for all the angst people had this year, you know,
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Speaker 3: until they benched everybody, they only lost one game. And
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Speaker 3: I just you know, I continually say, you know, one
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Speaker 3: score win or five score win, Who cares? You know?
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Speaker 3: We we conveniently forget here in twenty fifteen. I believe
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Speaker 3: nine of the broncos twelve wins that year were one
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Speaker 3: score wins, and we don't talk about how ugly that
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Speaker 3: was of a run to a Super Bowl. So I
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Speaker 3: think the standard we hold the Chiefs to is a
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Speaker 3: little weird. All they did was win, and I think
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Speaker 3: they're going to be the toughest out in the playoff
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Speaker 3: field because they're the ones who know what it takes
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Speaker 3: to get all all the way through.
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Speaker 1: Tomorrow night, six o'clock Manders Lions in Detroit, it is
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Speaker 1: Dan Campbell and Detroit's first crack as the one seed.
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Speaker 1: Both Ben Johnson and Aaron Glenn basically spent a week
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Speaker 1: doing every Zoom interview in the world. Fifty five and
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Speaker 1: a half is the total this game is. Really you
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Speaker 1: should anticipate an absurd amount of offense in this game. Washington
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Speaker 1: can't stop the run to save their life, and that's
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Speaker 1: what Detroit does better than anything else. But Leggy, how
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Speaker 1: do you think the Lions are going to deal with
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Speaker 1: having the one seed and sort of their first shot
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Speaker 1: as the hunted so to speak.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that the guy who's really in the
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Speaker 3: in the microscope is GoF you know, it's he's got
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Speaker 3: to pull this team through this part of it. You
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Speaker 3: know that you're at a place where the franchise hasn't
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Speaker 3: been for you know, in such a long time, and
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Speaker 3: you know, having never been you know, they're one of
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Speaker 3: the teams that's never been to a super Bowl. You're
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Speaker 3: you know, you're you're doing is being surrounded by all that.
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Speaker 3: I think it's really important for him to have like
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Speaker 3: the game of his career almost to pull these guys
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Speaker 3: through because the you know, Washington's got a rookie quarterback
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Speaker 3: and a bunch of guys who know no one thinks
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Speaker 3: they're going to win, and that's always the you know,
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Speaker 3: the puncher's chance in the playoffs. All right, what do you.
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Speaker 4: Think of that Lamar Jackson Josh Allen matchup? How about
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Speaker 4: for the they were talking all week, well when they
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Speaker 4: quit talking about Prime to the Cowboys and took Thursday
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Speaker 4: and Friday to preview playoff games, which I'm sure Jerry loved.
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Speaker 4: They were talking about the quarterback that loses this game
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Speaker 4: this weekend.
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Speaker 3: That could be tough.
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Speaker 4: Okay, you know they're both trying to get to the
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Speaker 4: super Bowl for the first time.
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Speaker 3: How do you think that one goes well? If the
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Speaker 3: weather depends, if the weather lets anybody throw the ball, Yeah,
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Speaker 3: and there's a good chance it won't. I mean, we
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Speaker 3: we've seen what a windy game looks like there. I mean,
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Speaker 3: I couple of years are, a few years ago. I remember,
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Speaker 3: you know, the Broncos played there early in the season
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Speaker 3: and the ball was going backward when the quarterbacks were
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Speaker 3: trying to warm up. So if they get that kind
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Speaker 3: of day and the cold, you know, it's just going
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Speaker 3: to be the team who runs the best. And Buffalo's
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Speaker 3: had a much You wouldn't know it from the Bronco game,
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Speaker 3: I know, but the Buffaloes had a much harder time
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Speaker 3: defending the run than the Ravens have. And if they
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Speaker 3: can't throw the ball, that could really be the difference
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Speaker 3: in this one.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, what's so interesting to me about this legy is
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Speaker 1: like the Broncos came into it, gave Andy the stat
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Speaker 1: in the first hour. Broncos were number one in defensive
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Speaker 1: success rate against the run this season, and yet Buffalo
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Speaker 1: ran all over them. Well, Baltimore is number two on
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Speaker 1: that list, And it's like, if James Cooking Company can
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Speaker 1: recreate what they did against Denver at home on their
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Speaker 1: own field, then I think we're talking about an absolute
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Speaker 1: slug fest that is going to go down to the
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Speaker 1: closing seconds of the game. But if Baltimore's defense really
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Speaker 1: shows up and does what you think they're capable of doing,
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Speaker 1: then that's where you would lean and certainly give the
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Speaker 1: edge to Lamar and the Ravens to get it to
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Speaker 1: get past this one.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, especially if if the weather prevents anybody from throwing.
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Speaker 3: They both they both have both quarterbacks have elite arm strength,
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Speaker 3: so it will take a horrible weather day for either
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Speaker 3: team not to throw. But if you can't, uh, I
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Speaker 3: think Baltimore has just built better on both sides of
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Speaker 3: the ball for that kind of day.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is gonna be a good one man coming
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Speaker 1: up right here?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, real quick, Jeff, You know Nate and I we
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Speaker 4: have people everywhere Okay, we've got you, but we got
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Speaker 4: we got an oil baron.
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Speaker 3: Turns out we got a cow guy.
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Speaker 1: We get a cow guy. All right, mister guy from.
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Speaker 3: The era of the bell cow back.
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Speaker 4: My buddy Jeremy from a dairy farm in Wisconsin told us,
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Speaker 4: you know you put the bell on.
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Speaker 1: You know which col you put the bell on.
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Speaker 3: You know you put the bell on the.
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Speaker 5: Cow you don't trust, the one you're worried most about
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Speaker 5: sneaking up on you and give you a good kick
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Speaker 5: right in the solar plexus. Where the hell did bell
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Speaker 5: cow back come from? It doesn't from a cow from
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Speaker 5: our cow guy.
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Speaker 3: That doesn't sound like a real compliment.
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Speaker 5: I don't think Ashton Genty wants to be the one
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Speaker 5: I got to keep an eye on all of a sudden,
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Speaker 5: what do we do in cam Scaboo doesn't want to
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Speaker 5: be known that, hey, you got your eye on me
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Speaker 5: in the locker room.
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Speaker 3: Because you think I'm up to something. That's why I've
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Speaker 3: never used it. That's the cow you don't give the
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Speaker 3: ball to. Well, there you go.
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Speaker 4: I want you to ask Ashton Genty if he knows
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Speaker 4: what a bell cow is, and then educate him and
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Speaker 4: see if he wants to be called a bell cow
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Speaker 4: back at the combine.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I'll do that right before I turned in
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Speaker 3: my retirement paper. It'll be a two fer.
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Speaker 5: Where did this come from, Leggy? Who started bell cow back?
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Speaker 3: It's probably you know, you know, the sportswriter types. You know,
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Speaker 3: some we all, you know, somebody thought it was funny
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Speaker 3: and the just it just kind of stuck.
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Speaker 1: Everybody adopted it and stuck with it forever. By the way, Leggy, Uh,
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Speaker 1: Rams and Eagles can la get out to a to
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Speaker 1: a good enough start to be able to put Philly
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Speaker 1: behind the eight ball.
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Speaker 3: Well, the last time they played, the Eagles ran for
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Speaker 3: three hundred. Yeah, so I think I think that's your issue. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: you know, and I think you know, look, the Rams
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Speaker 3: have dealt with more than any of the these other
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Speaker 3: teams have in so many ways. I Mean, they got
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Speaker 3: people working for the franchise, worried about where they're going
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Speaker 3: to live, you know, and what happened to their house, uh,
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Speaker 3: and all of those things. So on that level, you know,
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Speaker 3: what they've already done is amazing. But this is a
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Speaker 3: big ask on the football side of it, and uh,
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Speaker 3: they'll need the Eagles to just have a have a
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Speaker 3: hefty turnover day, you know, fumbles, ball on the ground, whatever.
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Speaker 3: But the last time they played the Eagles were they
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Speaker 3: were unstoppable. And what Barkley run for two point fifty
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Speaker 3: five in that game, I mean, that's unbelievable.
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Speaker 1: Jeff Legweld. Everybody ESPN follow all of his offseason coverage
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Speaker 1: and everything else as we go into divisional football weekend,
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Speaker 1: Jeff Legweld, good stuff, buddy, Thank you, Thanks Bellas