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- 0:15Speaker 1: Pushkin previously on revisionist history. I think there was a
- 0:25Speaker 1: pressure to have a method that looked more humane than
- 0:28Speaker 1: electrocution and lethal gas on.
- 0:31Speaker 2: That van and I go back to the hotel where
- 0:33Speaker 2: the other people had been in there praying with his family,
- 0:38Speaker 2: and I have to go in and tell him.
- 0:39Speaker 3: You know, John's gone, and.
- 0:40Speaker 2: He was peaceful.
- 0:42Speaker 4: He didn't appear to suffer. This is how lethal injection
- 0:46Speaker 4: actually kills you. It kills you by burning your lungs up,
- 0:50Speaker 4: and you're also paralyzed, so you can't complain that this
- 0:55Speaker 4: is happening.
- 1:05Speaker 3: Good afternoon, everybody, Thank you for being here. I hope
- 1:08Speaker 3: everybody had a one full holiday. If I haven't seen
- 1:10Speaker 3: you since, then call this press conference today because I
- 1:13Speaker 3: believe that people of Alabama deserve an explanation on where
- 1:17Speaker 3: things stand and where I stand with regard to capital
- 1:21Speaker 3: punishment in our state.
- 1:23Speaker 5: It's early December twenty twenty two, Montgomery, Alabama. Steve Marshall,
- 1:28Speaker 5: the state's attorney General, is holding a press conference standing
- 1:32Speaker 5: at the podium flanked by the Alabama and American flags.
- 1:36Speaker 3: What occurred on November seventeenth was a travesty, but not
- 1:40Speaker 3: for the reasons that many death penalty opponents and death
- 1:43Speaker 3: row sympathizers would have the public to believe.
- 1:51Speaker 5: My name is Malcolm Gladwell. You're listening to the Alabama
- 1:55Speaker 5: Murders our series on the Elizabeth Sennet case. This is
- 2:00Speaker 5: episode five, Cruel and Unusual. It's about the second of
- 2:04Speaker 5: her assailants, Kenny Smith, and what was done to him
- 2:07Speaker 5: in the name of justice travesty of November seventeenth. Kenny
- 2:21Speaker 5: Smith was twenty two at the time of Elizabeth sentence murderer.
- 2:24Speaker 5: He had a girlfriend and two young children. He was
- 2:27Speaker 5: working in a factory. He was slight, skinny, dark hair, thick,
- 2:32Speaker 5: moon shaped eyebrows. He was drunk a lot and high,
- 2:36Speaker 5: but all was smiling.
- 2:38Speaker 2: They would come over to my house a lot and
- 2:40Speaker 2: Keenie would it would just be granted because Michael will
- 2:43Speaker 2: be sitting in the back seat in his car seat,
- 2:46Speaker 2: and that Kenny would be high. You know, they would
- 2:50Speaker 2: be drinking.
- 2:52Speaker 5: This is Linda Smith, Kenny's mom, talking with a local
- 2:55Speaker 5: reporter named Lee Hedgepeth. Lee has covered the Kenny Smith
- 2:58Speaker 5: case and knows his family. Well, what kind of drunk.
- 3:02Speaker 2: Was skinny Hey with a happy drunk? Yeah, it's hard
- 3:07Speaker 2: to think of Kenny is anything. Yeah, yeah, I mean
- 3:13Speaker 2: what you're saying is what you get with him.
- 3:18Speaker 5: On the evening after the attack on Elizabeth Sennett, Smith's
- 3:22Speaker 5: best friend came over to his house. They went out
- 3:24Speaker 5: to get beer. Kenny's hand was swollen. He hit it
- 3:28Speaker 5: wrapped in a bandage. On the way to the store,
- 3:30Speaker 5: Kenny kept saying, I messed up. I messed up. He
- 3:33Speaker 5: wouldn't say why. Then back at home he started crying.
- 3:37Speaker 5: His mother lived close by. In the days that followed
- 3:41Speaker 5: before the police caught up to him, he went to
- 3:43Speaker 5: see her.
- 3:44Speaker 2: And Kenny, you know, like I said, he would come
- 3:47Speaker 2: over during that time. I mean I look back on
- 3:51Speaker 2: the times that he would come over and uh, he
- 3:56Speaker 2: would be kind of distant, you know, and he would
- 4:00Speaker 2: just I mean, it's disliked. It was something he wanted
- 4:05Speaker 2: to tail me, but you know he never did. So
- 4:10Speaker 2: when do you find out that he's implicated.
- 4:13Speaker 1: In some way?
- 4:15Speaker 2: Well I find out one afternoon when he calls me, oh,
- 4:20Speaker 2: thank you just got home from work and they came
- 4:23Speaker 2: and he said, Mom, can you come pick up Michael?
- 4:27Speaker 2: And I said, well, I'm washing my hair right now.
- 4:30Speaker 2: I said, I can't write this minute, and he said, well, Mom,
- 4:36Speaker 2: can you come? He said, the police are here, and
- 4:40Speaker 2: I just thought it was, you know, for pot or
- 4:42Speaker 2: drugs or something like that, and I said, well, you know,
- 4:47Speaker 2: I'll be over there, you know, and just a mente.
- 4:49Speaker 2: Of course, it didn't take me long to get to
- 4:50Speaker 2: their house. And when I drove up over there in
- 4:54Speaker 2: that driveway, I bet you there was ten ten cars
- 4:57Speaker 2: out in front.
- 5:01Speaker 5: Kenny Smith met the same fate as his friend John Parker,
- 5:04Speaker 5: who you heard about in the last episode. Smith was
- 5:07Speaker 5: charged with murder, can victed, sentenced by the jury to
- 5:11Speaker 5: life without pearl by a vote of eleven to one,
- 5:14Speaker 5: and then his judge did the same thing John Parker's
- 5:17Speaker 5: judge did, overrode the jury's decision and sentenced him to death.
- 5:22Speaker 5: He got sent to home in prison and stayed there
- 5:25Speaker 5: for decades, appealing his sentence, delaying the inevitable until November seventeenth,
- 5:31Speaker 5: twenty twenty two, when the event that the Attorney General
- 5:34Speaker 5: of the State of Alabama called a travesty happened.
- 5:38Speaker 3: It's been a great deal of media coverage, both local
- 5:40Speaker 3: and national, about what happened in Kenney Smith's execution chamber.
- 5:47Speaker 3: Much of that coverage has seemingly been openly sympathetic to
- 5:50Speaker 3: Smith and his cause, even with some going so far
- 5:54Speaker 3: as to advocate for the abolishment of the death penalty.
- 5:59Speaker 3: And on what basis exactly because a cold blooded, convicted
- 6:04Speaker 3: killer complains about the prodding and poking of a small
- 6:09Speaker 3: abvy line really potting and poking with a needle.
- 6:17Speaker 5: Prodding and poking with a needle, Let's start there. The
- 6:24Speaker 5: state of Alabama has a detailed set of instructions for
- 6:27Speaker 5: how executions are to be carried out in their prisons,
- 6:31Speaker 5: a protocol. The protocol was not supposed to be a
- 6:34Speaker 5: public document, but Alabama was forced to disclose it during
- 6:38Speaker 5: a death Bentley court case. It's forty one pages of dry,
- 6:42Speaker 5: precise language stipulating every step of the process. When a
- 6:47Speaker 5: condemned prisoner is supposed to be moved to a special
- 6:50Speaker 5: holding cell, when he gets his last meal, what he
- 6:53Speaker 5: gets to have in his cell, The people who are
- 6:55Speaker 5: allowed to attend the execution, where the victim's family goes,
- 7:00Speaker 5: where the offenders group goes, things like that. The execution
- 7:05Speaker 5: team is made up of about a dozen people. It
- 7:07Speaker 5: is a captain. The team is supposed to do a
- 7:10Speaker 5: walk through in the week leading up to the execution,
- 7:12Speaker 5: batting practice, if you will, to make sure they have
- 7:15Speaker 5: the killing procedure down pat As you may remember from
- 7:20Speaker 5: the last episode, the seed of the idea behind lethal
- 7:23Speaker 5: injection came from Ronald Reagan, who said, why don't we
- 7:26Speaker 5: just execute people the same way we put down horses,
- 7:30Speaker 5: to use the veterinarian's' euphemism, put them to sleep, clean, quick, professional,
- 7:35Speaker 5: something that appears painless instead of all the messiness of
- 7:39Speaker 5: the electric chair. That's very much the spirit of the
- 7:42Speaker 5: Alabama protocol.
- 7:45Speaker 4: What was so I think effective about lethal injection and
- 7:51Speaker 4: sinister is the fact that when you observe an execution
- 7:55Speaker 4: with lethal injection, generally it's a pretty bloodless event. Not
- 8:01Speaker 4: much happens. It appears that a person kind of closes
- 8:04Speaker 4: their eyes. Maybe you can imagine that they fall asleep,
- 8:08Speaker 4: and then they're dead.
- 8:10Speaker 5: Jill Zivitt the intensive care specialist from Emory University in
- 8:14Speaker 5: Atlanta who fell into death boalty work a few years ago.
- 8:18Speaker 4: So this was a breakthrough in terms of the witness
- 8:22Speaker 4: experience because every other kind of execution method that had
- 8:26Speaker 4: ever occurred before then, you know, it was quite a
- 8:29Speaker 4: lot more graphic, but lethal injection seemed to solve the
- 8:34Speaker 4: problem of being outwardly peaceful, and that's why I think
- 8:39Speaker 4: lethal injection took cold. And on top of that, of course,
- 8:41Speaker 4: there was this kind of impersonation of a medical act.
- 8:45Speaker 4: There was the use of terminology of medicine and even
- 8:49Speaker 4: the use of physicians and other medical people which gave
- 8:53Speaker 4: this kind of extra impression. You know that this was legitimate,
- 8:58Speaker 4: an endorsed kind of activity.
- 9:02Speaker 5: Which brings us to the portion of the protocol at issue.
- 9:05Speaker 5: On the evening of November seventeenth, twenty twenty two, in
- 9:09Speaker 5: Section B Part one, Clause A quote, the IV team
- 9:14Speaker 5: will be escorted into the execution chamber to start the IV.
- 9:18Speaker 5: The heart monitor leads will be applied to the condemned inmate.
- 9:22Speaker 5: If the condemned inmates veins make obtaining venus access difficult
- 9:26Speaker 5: or problematic, qualified medical personnel may perform a central line
- 9:30Speaker 5: procedure as set forth in section two of Appendix B
- 9:34Speaker 5: ADEOC Lethal injection execution procedure. A central line procedure involves
- 9:42Speaker 5: inserting a long, thin, flexible tube into a large vein,
- 9:46Speaker 5: like the jugular vein in the neck or the subclavian
- 9:49Speaker 5: vein in the chest or the femoral vein in the thigh.
- 9:52Speaker 5: So you try for the arm the normal way, and
- 9:54Speaker 5: if you fail, you go for a big vein. That's
- 9:57Speaker 5: the plan. Only in real life things aren't always so straightforward,
- 10:02Speaker 5: as outlined in Section B, Part one, Clause A in
- 10:07Speaker 5: a case of Kenny Smith and in other cases, there
- 10:09Speaker 5: have been these initial problems in finding a vein.
- 10:12Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to talk about this with you.
- 10:14Speaker 5: You talk about this because I yeah, as a non
- 10:17Speaker 5: medical person, I'm I'm puzzled. I don't understand this.
- 10:22Speaker 4: Sure, Yeah, So you walked me through.
- 10:24Speaker 5: Why why is that hard?
- 10:25Speaker 4: Alabama, you know, was the poster child of failure for
- 10:30Speaker 4: this in a in an odd kind of cluster of cases.
- 10:33Speaker 4: And and to answer your question directly, why is it hard? Well,
- 10:38Speaker 4: it's hard because in order to put an intravenous into
- 10:41Speaker 4: a vein, you know, it requires a certain you know,
- 10:44Speaker 4: level of skill, and it also requires some cooperation. You know,
- 10:50Speaker 4: it hurts to stick someone with a needle. So in
- 10:52Speaker 4: someone who is sort of young and fit and well
- 10:56Speaker 4: uh and well hydrated and relaxed, you know that the
- 11:01Speaker 4: chance of getting a vein and a person like that
- 11:03Speaker 4: is quite high. You know, uh in someone who's who's
- 11:07Speaker 4: dehydrated terriff I had been sick, had been in prison
- 11:11Speaker 4: for two decades. You know, it becomes a lot harder.
- 11:15Speaker 4: Plus you're also giving it over to people who are
- 11:18Speaker 4: not expert. Okay, you know, an antiseesiologist in good standing
- 11:22Speaker 4: is not going to spend their wednesdays over at the
- 11:26Speaker 4: you know, State corrections Sticking ivs in people for execution,
- 11:31Speaker 4: it's not something that we do and people who you know,
- 11:35Speaker 4: to learn to do in intervenous is a technical skill.
- 11:39Speaker 4: It can be learned, but I think also the people
- 11:43Speaker 4: who are doing it themselves are nervous.
- 11:46Speaker 5: Alabama won't reveal exactly who is on the execution team,
- 11:50Speaker 5: what their training is, how much experience they have, but
- 11:53Speaker 5: it's safe to say this isn't a team full of doctors,
- 11:56Speaker 5: since doctors have to take an oath to do no harm,
- 11:59Speaker 5: and hooking someone up to an IV that will transport
- 12:02Speaker 5: lethal drugs is definitely doing harm. That's as if it's point,
- 12:07Speaker 5: these are prison employees side contractors. It's not the anesthesiologist
- 12:12Speaker 5: from the nearest teaching hospital.
- 12:14Speaker 4: You know, there are some ways of making it more
- 12:16Speaker 4: likely than not to succeed. But you know what is
- 12:19Speaker 4: taught either in nursing school or as an emt or
- 12:22Speaker 4: as a doctor cannot be lifted into the death chamber
- 12:27Speaker 4: like it's not the same place. If these people are
- 12:30Speaker 4: not patients, you know, they're not collaborators to you.
- 12:36Speaker 5: In some states with the death penalty, putting in the
- 12:38Speaker 5: IVY is done in full view of the witnesses to
- 12:41Speaker 5: the execution, but in Alabama it's done before the witnesses
- 12:45Speaker 5: are invited into the execution chamber, which means that any
- 12:49Speaker 5: outsider who is there to see the execution, the families
- 12:52Speaker 5: and friends and reporters, are forced to guess how the
- 12:55Speaker 5: IVY process is going. The executioners are supposed to start
- 12:59Speaker 5: at six the witnesses are all sequestered in a holding
- 13:03Speaker 5: room away from the execution side, and if it gets
- 13:06Speaker 5: to be seven pm or seven thirty or nine pm
- 13:10Speaker 5: and the witnesses haven't yet been picked up by the
- 13:12Speaker 5: bus to go take them to the execution chamber, then
- 13:15Speaker 5: everyone starts to wonder is there a problem. This is
- 13:22Speaker 5: exactly what happened in the summer of twenty twenty two
- 13:25Speaker 5: while Kenny Smith was still appealing his sentence, a condemned
- 13:29Speaker 5: inmate at home and named Joe Nathan James was set
- 13:32Speaker 5: to be executed. Everything with James ran late afterwards. The
- 13:38Speaker 5: state insisted the procedure had gone according to plan, but
- 13:41Speaker 5: Zivid was suspicious. He asked to perform a second autopsy,
- 13:46Speaker 5: and what he found was, in a word, gruesome, Consider
- 13:50Speaker 5: yourself warned.
- 13:53Speaker 4: I was able to get his body, and I worked
- 13:56Speaker 4: with a pathologist in Alabama and went there and with him,
- 14:02Speaker 4: you know, we've performed this second autopsy, and I saw
- 14:06Speaker 4: in his body evidence of, you know, multiple attempts at
- 14:10Speaker 4: intravenouses and some of these things, you know, you could
- 14:14Speaker 4: see bruising, which meant that they were you know, kind
- 14:17Speaker 4: of getting in and getting out of a van. And
- 14:19Speaker 4: there was some bleeding under the skin, and there was
- 14:21Speaker 4: these were both on you know, on multiple spots on
- 14:23Speaker 4: his arms, up and down, both arms. And then there
- 14:26Speaker 4: was also evidence of something called a cutdown. And a
- 14:30Speaker 4: cutdown is where you take a knife to the skin
- 14:33Speaker 4: and you open the skin to reveal, you know, a
- 14:36Speaker 4: vein beneath that that you couldn't otherwise see or feel.
- 14:42Speaker 4: It's kind of an old style technique and it's been
- 14:44Speaker 4: replaced by ultrasound, and the protocol at the time does
- 14:50Speaker 4: not provide for the possibility of a cutdown. And also
- 14:55Speaker 4: the cut down along the edges of it had blood,
- 14:59Speaker 4: which again meant that he had to have been alive
- 15:02Speaker 4: and bleeding for this to have taken place. So somehow
- 15:06Speaker 4: they got some ivy in him, but it took them
- 15:08Speaker 4: hours to do it. So picture you know, Joe, Nathan
- 15:12Speaker 4: James lying there, strapped down, you know, not cooperative as
- 15:17Speaker 4: they poke and poke and poke him and finally just
- 15:20Speaker 4: take a knife to his forearm to open up his
- 15:23Speaker 4: forearm to try to get a vein there and that
- 15:27Speaker 4: so that was Joe.
- 15:33Speaker 5: Then came Alan Miller two months later. Under Alabama law,
- 15:37Speaker 5: once a defendant has been convicted of a capital crime,
- 15:40Speaker 5: he or she is given a death warrant. A warrant
- 15:43Speaker 5: is a writ issued by the court which lays out
- 15:46Speaker 5: the facts of the conviction, the specific offense, the judgment
- 15:49Speaker 5: of the court, and the time and place of execution,
- 15:52Speaker 5: which in Alabama is a purpose built facility on the
- 15:55Speaker 5: campus of Home and Prison in Atmore at the time,
- 15:59Speaker 5: once a date had been set, the execution had to
- 16:02Speaker 5: take place by midnight, so they start at six pm
- 16:07Speaker 5: and give themselves six hours with Alan Miller. They ran
- 16:11Speaker 5: at a time, gave up, the state had to come
- 16:14Speaker 5: back and kill him on another day. Then came Kenny Smith.
- 16:38Speaker 5: Tell me your impressions of Kenny.
- 16:40Speaker 2: What was he like?
- 16:42Speaker 6: Kenny? I obviously didn't know him when he was a
- 16:47Speaker 6: twenty two year old person at the time of the
- 16:51Speaker 6: events for which he was convicted. But he truly was
- 16:58Speaker 6: an example. And I know this is going to sound
- 17:02Speaker 6: right and a cliche, but he really got religion figuratively
- 17:12Speaker 6: and literally. You know, in prison he was a force
- 17:17Speaker 6: for good.
- 17:19Speaker 5: This is Robert Grass, one of Kenny Smith's lawyers, the
- 17:22Speaker 5: one who had been with him the longest. He's a
- 17:24Speaker 5: litigator for a prestigious corporate law firm in New York City.
- 17:28Speaker 5: He represents pharmaceutical companies, but he does pro bono death
- 17:31Speaker 5: penalty work on the side. He started representing Kenny Smith
- 17:35Speaker 5: in two thousand and five. How many times over the
- 17:39Speaker 5: course of twenty years did you go to Alabama?
- 17:42Speaker 6: I don't have an exact number, but.
- 17:46Speaker 4: Many.
- 17:47Speaker 5: Home in prison where Smith was held is in the
- 17:50Speaker 5: southern part of the state. Grass was in New York,
- 17:53Speaker 5: so that's New York to Atlanta, Atlanta to Mobile, ran
- 17:57Speaker 5: a car in mobile drive an hour to add more,
- 18:00Speaker 5: he made that journey for close to two decades.
- 18:03Speaker 6: I really felt as if we developed a friendship, I
- 18:09Speaker 6: really would have liked to have had the opportunity to
- 18:15Speaker 6: interact with them under different circumstances.
- 18:19Speaker 5: Grass is older, lean, dark suit, gray hair, ivy, lead
- 18:23Speaker 5: degree cum laude, law school graduate. He probably builds out
- 18:27Speaker 5: at some astronomical number. Whenever I read about some complicated
- 18:31Speaker 5: legal negotiation that goes on into the wee hours of
- 18:33Speaker 5: the morning, I imagine it's because someone like Robert Grass
- 18:36Speaker 5: is involved as measured and dispassionate and implacable at three
- 18:41Speaker 5: AM as they were at three in the afternoon. You
- 18:44Speaker 5: have to listen very closely when he talks. He doesn't
- 18:47Speaker 5: broadcast his feelings. He sends out morse code signals. Talk
- 18:52Speaker 5: a little bit more about your friendship. It's an unlikely friendship.
- 18:58Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, we obviously grew up in.
- 19:06Speaker 5: Different circumstances, different circumstances, morse code.
- 19:12Speaker 6: I've had other experiences with some folks on death Throw
- 19:16Speaker 6: where I, you know, didn't feel the same bond. But Kenny,
- 19:23Speaker 6: as I said by the time I knew him, was
- 19:30Speaker 6: just a decent man, incredibly gracious, and really seemed to
- 19:37Speaker 6: have the best he could given the environment he was
- 19:43Speaker 6: in to have been leading a productive life in that environment.
- 19:52Speaker 5: In the fall of twenty twenty two, Smith and his
- 19:54Speaker 5: legal team suffered a serious setback. Smith was finally given
- 19:59Speaker 5: a death warrant, and the warrant set the date of
- 20:01Speaker 5: the execution November seventeenth, twenty twenty two. But those two
- 20:07Speaker 5: botched execution cases, Alan Miller and Joe Nathan James, gave
- 20:11Speaker 5: Grass one more chance. The Supreme Court has long supported
- 20:15Speaker 5: the idea the states can execute prisoners if they wish,
- 20:19Speaker 5: but they have insisted that executions have to be done
- 20:22Speaker 5: the right way, and what happened to Joe Nathan James
- 20:25Speaker 5: and to Alan Miller didn't seem like it fit any
- 20:28Speaker 5: definition of the right way. So Smith's lawyers sued, the
- 20:32Speaker 5: way Alabama is practicing lethal injection is cruel and unusual punishment.
- 20:38Speaker 5: The case was dismissed. Grass appealed to the Eleventh Circuit
- 20:41Speaker 5: in Atlanta. Arguments were heard on November sixteenth, the day
- 20:45Speaker 5: before Smith's death warrant. Grass went directly from the hearing
- 20:50Speaker 5: to the prison.
- 20:51Speaker 6: Then I went to at Moore, which is where Holman
- 20:54Speaker 6: is visited with Kenny. That morning, we were still waiting
- 20:58Speaker 6: for the Eleventh Circuit's decision, and that day became a
- 21:03Speaker 6: real rollercoaster of emotions.
- 21:07Speaker 5: Grass was in a hotel room a mile or two
- 21:10Speaker 5: from the prison. At eight pm, Grass heard that the
- 21:13Speaker 5: prison guards at home and had taken Kenny out of
- 21:16Speaker 5: his cell and were preparing him for execution. But that
- 21:20Speaker 5: wasn't right. His appeal was still up in the air.
- 21:23Speaker 5: Then Grass got another call. The Eleventh Circuit had ruled
- 21:26Speaker 5: in Kenny's favor. The execution was off, at which point
- 21:30Speaker 5: the State of Alabama appealed to the US Supreme Court.
- 21:34Speaker 5: It was now after eight.
- 21:35Speaker 6: PM, and in the meantime, I'm kind of watching the
- 21:39Speaker 6: clock tick because the death warn't expired at midnight, so
- 21:45Speaker 6: I'm hoping to reach that point without this going forward.
- 21:51Speaker 6: But at about a quarter after ten or so, got
- 21:59Speaker 6: a call from the emergency clerk at the United States
- 22:03Speaker 6: Supreme Court, sometimes referred to as the death Clerk because
- 22:07Speaker 6: a lot of the emergency involve capital cases. But who said,
- 22:14Speaker 6: there's no easy way to say this, and so I
- 22:17Speaker 6: knew from that preferatory remark what was coming.
- 22:22Speaker 5: The Supreme Court ruled in favor of Alabama. One of
- 22:27Speaker 5: the reporters, who was at home in prison covering the story,
- 22:30Speaker 5: emailed Grass to say they were moving the witnesses to
- 22:33Speaker 5: the death chamber. Grass sat in his hotel room waiting
- 22:37Speaker 5: to hear what happened. Nothing, silence. The next morning he
- 22:45Speaker 5: learned why.
- 22:48Speaker 6: So he was taken out of his cell, thinking that
- 22:55Speaker 6: his execution was imminent, strapped to a gurney, and nothing
- 23:01Speaker 6: is happening. And he's asking, you know, the corrections officers
- 23:05Speaker 6: who are with them, what's going on, and they, you know,
- 23:09Speaker 6: tell him they don't know. And then when they finally
- 23:15Speaker 6: got going, you know, they've got three members of an
- 23:19Speaker 6: IV team, none of whom are identified to him. There
- 23:24Speaker 6: are other people in the execution chamber with him that
- 23:27Speaker 6: were not identified to him. They're you know, jabbing him
- 23:32Speaker 6: with a needle trying to find a vein, which they
- 23:36Speaker 6: weren't able to do. Then they tried something called a
- 23:43Speaker 6: central line procedure to kind of stick a needle under
- 23:48Speaker 6: his collarbone and reach one of his central veins. But
- 23:52Speaker 6: again they didn't tell him what they were doing. What
- 23:55Speaker 6: was going on. They just kind of put a surgical
- 23:58Speaker 6: gown over him. You know, one of the IV team
- 24:02Speaker 6: members came back into the room in surgical garb, and
- 24:06Speaker 6: you know, Kenny is asking these people what's what they're doing.
- 24:11Speaker 6: No one is telling them.
- 24:14Speaker 5: I'm going to read from a report on that evening,
- 24:16Speaker 5: commissioned by Grass and his team. It includes a very
- 24:19Speaker 5: detailed description of what Kenny said happened to him in
- 24:23Speaker 5: the execution chamber. He recalled seeing a clear plastic sheet
- 24:28Speaker 5: over his chest with an open center. He saw that
- 24:31Speaker 5: the man had a stringe in his hand, and he
- 24:34Speaker 5: unbuttoned mister Smith's shirt and injected a yellow liquid into
- 24:37Speaker 5: his chest. The man said, you will feel something cool,
- 24:41Speaker 5: and the man slid a long needle into his chest.
- 24:45Speaker 5: He inserted the needle and as Kenny perceived it, moved
- 24:48Speaker 5: the needle around while it was inserted in his chest.
- 24:52Speaker 5: Mister Smith noted that he quote lost all composure at
- 24:56Speaker 5: this point, describing everything became surreal, Everything went out the window.
- 25:02Speaker 5: Mister Smith became terrified that he was being injected with
- 25:05Speaker 5: a substance that would render him unable to communicate some
- 25:09Speaker 5: that he knew would violate an existing court order. He
- 25:12Speaker 5: was again panicked that he would not be able to
- 25:14Speaker 5: say his final words to his family and the victim's family,
- 25:18Speaker 5: given what he heard had happened in a previous execution.
- 25:23Speaker 5: The man who had been injecting him in the chest
- 25:25Speaker 5: and the IVY team all stepped back. Mister Smith tried
- 25:29Speaker 5: to gather himself and then said that they stepped back
- 25:31Speaker 5: up and the man from behind his shoulder had a
- 25:34Speaker 5: large gage needle with a large cylinder. Mister Smith said
- 25:38Speaker 5: he quote freaked out, quote demanding that someone call his lawyer. Next,
- 25:43Speaker 5: Deputy Warden Woods put his hands on mister Smith on
- 25:47Speaker 5: both sides of his head and said, quote this is
- 25:50Speaker 5: for your own good, pulling his head to the side.
- 25:54Speaker 5: Mister Smith then recalled searing pain as he was injected
- 25:59Speaker 5: under his collarbone. He said it took my breath away,
- 26:03Speaker 5: and he recalled that he was gasping and trying to
- 26:07Speaker 5: get away by bucking up off the table. Mister Smith
- 26:10Speaker 5: recounted that he believed the man tried approximately five times
- 26:14Speaker 5: to get this large needle into a vein under his collarbone.
- 26:20Speaker 6: By the time this was done, that after three and
- 26:24Speaker 6: a half or four hours being strapped to a gurney.
- 26:28Speaker 6: You know, he was unable to stand, walk, unbutton his shirt,
- 26:37Speaker 6: you know, change his clothes, do any of that without assistance.
- 26:43Speaker 5: It was now almost midnight. Ken, he couldn't stand. He
- 26:47Speaker 5: asked for a wheelchair, they refused. He sat outside the
- 26:51Speaker 5: chamber until the guards picked him up by the arms
- 26:54Speaker 5: and carried him to the infirmary. I can't help but
- 27:00Speaker 5: think about the execution team in this moment, assuming they'd
- 27:04Speaker 5: be able to carry out the most overwhelming of tasks
- 27:07Speaker 5: on the pretense that it's a clean, professional, humane exercise,
- 27:13Speaker 5: only to suddenly realize they can't do it. They're over
- 27:17Speaker 5: their heads, and they can't hide. They're stuck in the
- 27:20Speaker 5: execution chamber until midnight for reasons I can't fully explain.
- 27:25Speaker 5: Every time I think of the night of November seventeenth,
- 27:27Speaker 5: I think of the lines from an old Graham Parker song.
- 27:30Speaker 5: The doctor gets nervous completing the service. He's all rubber
- 27:34Speaker 5: gloves and no head. He fumbles the light switch. It's
- 27:37Speaker 5: just another minor hitch. Wishes to God he was dead.
- 27:44Speaker 5: After a night like that, how could you not wish
- 27:47Speaker 5: to God you were dead. Kenny's miss failed execution was
- 28:06Speaker 5: on a Thursday. The following Monday, the Governor of Alabama, Kivy,
- 28:11Speaker 5: paused all pending executions in the state and ordered a
- 28:15Speaker 5: top to bottom review of the state's capital punishment protocol.
- 28:19Speaker 5: And then two and a half weeks after that came
- 28:22Speaker 5: Steve Marshall's press conference.
- 28:24Speaker 3: Good after me, everybody call this press conference today because.
- 28:28Speaker 5: Attorney General's Office Montgomery, Alabama flags on both sides of
- 28:32Speaker 5: the podium, Alabama's highest ranking legal officer. Seeks to set
- 28:37Speaker 5: the record straight. And what was on his mind that
- 28:41Speaker 5: six hour window that home and Prison had given itself
- 28:44Speaker 5: to get someone ready to be executed. Why were they
- 28:47Speaker 5: starting so late in today? It was letting murderers and
- 28:50Speaker 5: their lawyers gain the system.
- 28:52Speaker 3: So if you're a defense lawyer representing an inmate, you
- 28:55Speaker 3: simply know that you have to push the clock back
- 28:57Speaker 3: as far as possible. I think we saw that occur
- 28:59Speaker 3: with the last two executions.
- 29:01Speaker 5: No form not to mention the prisoners themselves, they weren't
- 29:04Speaker 5: helping matters.
- 29:05Speaker 3: But let's also acknowledge that inmates themselves have responsibility here,
- 29:09Speaker 3: not just in the delay that's occurred. But I think
- 29:12Speaker 3: you've seen impletings that we have where inmates are resisting
- 29:15Speaker 3: the efforts to put that IVY line in, which obviously
- 29:19Speaker 3: makes it more difficult.
- 29:20Speaker 5: Can you believe it the condemned prisoners are not cooperating
- 29:25Speaker 5: with their executioners. A reporter raises his hand. Is there
- 29:31Speaker 5: anything the state legislature could do, like maybe adding another
- 29:35Speaker 5: method of execution or increasing that window to forty eight
- 29:38Speaker 5: or seventy two hours? Yes, yes, Marshall says, that is
- 29:43Speaker 5: the issue here. We just don't have long.
- 29:45Speaker 3: Enough now, although we have a twenty four hour period
- 29:48Speaker 3: right now, but really an actuality have a six hour
- 29:50Speaker 3: window based upon policies and department corrections having in place
- 29:54Speaker 3: long before the current commissioner, long before Governor Iby or myself.
- 29:58Speaker 3: And I'm sure that's one of the things that they
- 29:59Speaker 3: will look at as part of their review.
- 30:02Speaker 5: I'm sure that's one of the things they will look
- 30:04Speaker 5: at as part of their review. And sure enough it was.
- 30:10Speaker 5: The Governor's top to bottom review turned out to be
- 30:12Speaker 5: a new rule that said the guards at home in
- 30:15Speaker 5: prison would have until the following morning to complete their service,
- 30:19Speaker 5: six more hours to poke and prod and take a
- 30:21Speaker 5: knife and peel back flesh and dig around the collarbone,
- 30:25Speaker 5: and manage the rising sense of shame and self loathing
- 30:29Speaker 5: and revulsion that comes to being asked to do a
- 30:31Speaker 5: job without really knowing how to do a job.
- 30:35Speaker 3: It's been a great deal of media coverage, both local
- 30:37Speaker 3: and national, about what happened in Kenney Smith's execution chamber.
- 30:44Speaker 3: Much of that coverage has seemingly been openly sympathetic to
- 30:47Speaker 3: Smith and his cause, even with some going so far
- 30:51Speaker 3: as to advocate for the abolishment of the death penalty.
- 30:56Speaker 3: And on what basis exactly because a cold blooded, convicted
- 31:01Speaker 3: killer complains about the prodding and poking of a small
- 31:06Speaker 3: ivy line really potting and poking with a needle.
- 31:17Speaker 5: As the moral failure cascade gains momentum, indifference turns to cruelty.
- 31:24Speaker 5: And through all of this, Kenny Smith was back in
- 31:27Speaker 5: his cell, still alive. What do you do after the
- 31:33Speaker 5: state has tried to kill you and failed? If the
- 31:36Speaker 5: state botches the attempt the first time around, does that
- 31:39Speaker 5: disqualify them from trying again? Robert Grass and the rest
- 31:43Speaker 5: of Kenny Smith's legal team realized they needed someone to
- 31:46Speaker 5: do an assessment of Kenny's condition before they could do
- 31:49Speaker 5: anything else. They needed someone who knew what it might
- 31:53Speaker 5: be like to be strapped to a gurney for three
- 31:55Speaker 5: and a half hours while a group of people in
- 31:58Speaker 5: surgical garb stabbed them with needles. So they called Kate
- 32:04Speaker 5: Porterfield coming up on Revisionist History.
- 32:19Speaker 1: One of the people on the team, who he didn't know,
- 32:22Speaker 1: says to him, it's over and I'll be praying for you.
- 32:26Speaker 1: So these kinds of moments for Kenny were just unmanageable. Afterwards,
- 32:33Speaker 1: they were unmanageable moments with other humans.
- 32:36Speaker 2: I guess it started after Kenny was born. What I
- 32:39Speaker 2: think is he was doing stuff and A was thinking
- 32:45Speaker 2: I was, you know, right, and he was jealous. Yeah,
- 32:49Speaker 2: but I wasn't you know, I had a kidom rise.
- 32:53Speaker 1: He really kind of got me. He made me really
- 32:58Speaker 1: pause and think a lot, Kenny Smith, because watching someone
- 33:01Speaker 1: only start from a place of love after something so
- 33:04Speaker 1: horrible was I've never seen that before.
- 33:12Speaker 5: Revision's History is produced by Lucy Sullivan, Ben the Daph Haffrey,
- 33:16Speaker 5: and Nina Bird Lawrence. Additional reporting by Benda Daph Haffrey
- 33:20Speaker 5: and Lee Hedgepeth. Our editor is Karen Schakerji. Fact checking
- 33:24Speaker 5: by Kate Furby. Our executive producer is Jacob Smith, engineering
- 33:28Speaker 5: by Nina Bird Lawrence, production support from Luke Clemond, original
- 33:33Speaker 5: scoring by Luis Kerra with Paul Brainard and Jimmy Bodd.
- 33:37Speaker 5: Sound design and additional music by Jake Gorsky. I'm Malcolm Glabo.
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