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A landmark whistleblower lawsuit was made against geoengineering · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

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  We've learned anything from these past couple of years.
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  American pulse brings together the top experts and healthcare related fields to keep you a beat again.
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  Welcome, ladies and gentlemen.
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  This is Dr.
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  Clayton J.
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  Baker on the America Out Loud Pulse program on the America Out Loud Radio Network, Liberty and Justice for All.
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  Today I am delighted to have attorney Blake Horwitz of the Blake Horowitz Law Firm of Chicago, as well as one of the attorneys in the geofight, which is a new coalition of prominent, successful litigator attorneys who are trying to stop the spraying in our skies, trying to stop the geoengineering menace that we have talked about so many times on this show.
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  And I'm delighted to have Mr.
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  Harwitz here today because the geo fight has just filed its first major lawsuit about geoengineering.
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  And it's a very interesting lawsuit.
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  And I would like to turn it over right away to you, Blake, and let you describe briefly what the nature of the lawsuit is, and we'll explore that a little bit more, and we'll explore what people can do to help.
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  So I'm turning it over to you.
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  Tell tell us about this lawsuit.
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  I understand it's a whistleblower lawsuit.
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  Why is that important?
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  Um just fill us in.
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  Sure.
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  Well, first of all, thanks for having me in.
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  Our goal in the geophyte, uh, which is the group that I'm a member of, we want to get the message out.
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  And a whistleblower lawsuit is the perfect way to get the message out.
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  What is a whistleblower lawsuit?
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  A whistleblower lawsuit is about getting out the message.
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  It's blowing the whistle on covert activities and bad things that are happening and putting it in the domain of a lawsuit so that people can learn what the heck is going on about anything.
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  And in this instance, the what the heck, the what there is to learn about is the geoengineering.
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  And so what this lawsuit concerns is a group of scientists over at the University of Colorado and NOAA.
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  So many universities have a reservoir, a whole place where scientists operate and they have a think tank and they do a bunch of stuff.
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  In this instance, the University of Colorado receives over a billion dollars.
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  That's right, I said billion with a B to perform research on behalf of NOAA.
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  Tell us what NOAA is for those who don't know.
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  So NOAA is where we get a lot of our atmospheric information from, the weather reports, when you hear about a hurricane and how it's traveling from Africa up the east coast of the United States and whatnot, and through Central America, Mexico, that's NOAA.
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  So NOAA sends airplanes, for example, into hurricanes to study them, and they engage in a lot of atmospheric studies.
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  NOAA covers a pretty big expanse of information.
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  But at the end of the day, it's an atmospheric and oceanic research project.
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  It's a fed it's an arm of the federal government.
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  Yes.
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  So just like people say NASA, then NASA does um space research or um sends, as we know rockets into space, NOAA does atmospheric research.
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  Both are federal agencies, just like the FBI is a federal agency.
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  So this federal agency has worked with multiple universities, I understand it, prominently with the University of Colorado and the University of Colorado's received over, you said a billion with a B.
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  That's a lot of money, even in today's terms.
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  Uh, to do what?
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  And what are they doing with that money?
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  Well, it's really interesting.
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  Um, this is not necessarily part of the lawsuit, but it's important to know.
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  So a university, just like any entity wants to get money.
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  So if uh Nabisco wants to sell crackers, well, they want to be the best at selling crackers, or if they want to sell uh cookies, they want to be the best at selling cookies.
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  If you sell oil, you want to be the best at selling oil so you make money.
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  If you are a university, you want to be the best at getting research dollars.
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  And peculiarly, uh, you know, we used we used to think that universities are places where people would study and our kids would get educated so they can move on in the world.
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  Now it's that, but it's also there's a huge industry relating to dollars.
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  How do I get more dollars into the university?
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  So, what happens is the university of Colorado has set up a pretty good um place for people to do a lot of atmospheric research.
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  And by good, what I mean is a resource where a lot of atmospheric research is done for the good or for the bad.
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  And at the end of the day, NOAA causes them to receive, if I remember correctly, about a billion dollars a year.
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  Okay.
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  So a billion dollars is a big chunk of money.
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  Now we're getting closer to what the lawsuit's about.
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  After they receive the billion dollars, the university takes a third of that and just goes into university coffers.
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  Thank you very much, NOAA, for all this money.
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  We just take off a third.
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  Just take off a third.
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  It's kind of like a lawyer takes a third in a personal injury case.
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  You know, you hear about that.
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  Well, in this instance, they take a third.
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  So the rest of it goes to the researchers and all that, and they study whatever they study.
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  In this instance, they do a lot of atmospheric uh research.
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  And what we've identified in our lawsuit is that they receive multiple millions of dollars a year to do uh research into the stratosphere and the troposphere with regards to supposedly what's going on in our skies, and specifically how it is that uh man can intervene in the weather.
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  So where this lawsuit pops up is as follows.
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  There's a recognition that there is an underlying current, which is a capitalist model, which is designed to get people money, get the research money.
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  I'm sorry, get the university money.
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  So the money comes in when you report that there's a danger in the skies, that the world is heating up.
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  And there are people who are incentivized to um exaggerate to what extent the world is heating up.
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  Incentivized to um exaggerate to what extent the world is heating up.
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  Hey, look, if we say the world is heating up fast and bad, and it's all anthropogenic, it's all done by man, and man screwing up the planet, and we just keep talking about it and talking about it and talking about it, then we're gonna increase the amount of money that comes into the university.
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  Hey, look, if we say the world is heating up fast and bad, and it's all anthropogenic, it's all done by man and man screwing up the planet, and we just keep talking about it and talking about it and talking about it, then we're gonna increase the amount of money that comes into the university.
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  Very similar to clickbait.
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  Very similar to clickbait.
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  People exaggerate things, they say horrendous things online, and then everybody clicks, and then consequently.
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  People exaggerate things, they say horrendous things online, and then everybody clicks, and then consequently uh people try to monetize the clicking, for example, as we all know.
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  In this instance, they're monetizing the statements that they make, referable to uh let's call it global warming or warming trends.
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  So what happened was there were several instances where problems arose, and this is what our client has blown the whistle on.
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  Our client, his name is Justin Maby, and he was the individual that was the senior guy, the most in charge of the world's data with regards to historical weather.
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  So he actually maintained the world's data for about a hundred years of history or more.
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  And he maintained it on behalf of the United States and the United Nations.
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  So if you wanted to get information and understand uh world weather history, right?
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  If you want to track a is there really global warming going on, then you got to look into the history to find out if there's really global warming going on.
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  Are we warmer now than we were in 1910?
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  Is it warmer now than in 1890 or 1880?
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  Are there more storms?
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  What took place?
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  What Justin noticed is that the uh the information, the historical information was being destroyed, essential information was being destroyed.
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  They're destroying historical documents, they're destroying historical weather data.
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  Exactly.
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  Wow.
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  That's that's gotta be illegal.
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  Uh well, there is a specific rule.
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  So the um historical data was to be retained by NOAA.
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  Noah's a federal agency.
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  As a federal agency, NOAA must comply with the Federal Records Act.
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  You don't comply with the Federal Records Act, then somebody immediately should come in to investigate an entity called NARA.
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  Anybody can look it up, NARA.
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  It's a federal agency.
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  And so what they do is they come in and they say, Hey, how have you violated the records act and whatnot?
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  And every once in a while, this pops up in the news.
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  And in essence, um, our client reported it.
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  He is a quote unquote whistleblower.
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  He blew the whistle on the destruction of historical records.
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  That was done on a number of occasions.
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  And the consequences, if you historic destroy historical records, if you get rid of history, if you say there's no such thing as this these Nazis killing the Jews, if you say whatever you want to say relative to history, for example, then you can invent the future and you can try to avoid uh information that's available from history.
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  So I think we all understand that.
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  And in this instance, the concern is that the reason for the destruction of historical records is to invent a narrative.
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  Well, what's the narrative?
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  Oh my God, the world's warming up.
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  Oh my god, this is all done by anthropogenic forces.
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  We need to move quickly.
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  Let's spray the skies, let's put contaminants in the sky so that we can reflect the sun's rays uh back into the atmosphere.
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  Man's got to move fast.
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  So in order, if if that is the case, then the university of Colorado makes a hell of a lot more money.
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  They bring in a lot of dough by putting out the warning signs, just like people can monetize clickbait.
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  So that's the concern.
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  That's the purpose for the lawsuit is to express the concerns of a whistleblower.
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  And not only that, but to identify it at a very high level.
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  So in the lawsuit, we identify patents owned by the United States government that are specifically designed to do one thing.
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  Intervene on the Earth's weather.
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  So patents designed to intervene in the Earth's weather.
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  Research projects, which have a goal.
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  What's the goal?
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  Intervene on the Earth's weather.
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  For the last 10 years, the University of Colorado has received multiple millions of dollars, many, many millions, at least 20, 30 million dollars for the purpose of seeing how it is that man can intervene on the Earth's weather.
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  So manipulating the weather sounds like big business.
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  Well, it is big business.
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  In fact, it's not only the University of Colorado that's studying it along with NOAA, so University in Colorado acts as part, University of Colorado and NOAA acts as partners and they study this, but it is business.
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  In other words, just like any other business, there are corporations that are coming into the United States and saying, hey, look, we're gonna sell a product, and the product is how can we contaminate the skies to give people a carbon credit?
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  So our skies are contaminated already.
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  They don't use the words how do we contaminate the sky.
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  They say, hey, we have a special product that we can put into the sky.
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  It'll help reduce global temperatures, and you get a credit.
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  You, Mr.
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  Oil Industry, you get a credit if you a carbon credit, if you give us some money and we'll put some crap up in the sky.
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  Um, that crap is a contaminant.
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  Sulfuric um sulfur dioxide, for example, which converts to sulfuric acid, which creates acid rain and other particles.
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  So that is what's going on.
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  Our atmosphere is for sale, and people suffer.
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  I don't know how else to describe it.
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  That is what this lawsuit is is bringing to bear.
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  And to be clear, this is a whistleblower lawsuit.
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  This lawsuit is not an injunction.
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  We're not seeking injunctive relief to stop it.
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  This is our just our first lawsuit that we have filed.
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  This is not an injunction.
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  This is not a lawsuit telling saying to the United States, give all the taxpayers money for helping to um contaminate us.
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  We're not there yet.
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  What we have is an insider, somebody who has a PhD in atmospheric science.
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  He's an atmospheric physicist.
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  This guy is you could call him like the super weatherman, somebody who truly understands what's going on with the weather, somebody who's invented products in order to diagnose exactly what's transpiring with the weather with complex radar equipment.
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  And this guy knows this guy is the inside person.
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  So let me let me let me summarize.
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  So the first thing you said is our atmosphere is for sale.
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  And I think that's something that I want everyone to realize what's what's going on here.
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  Realize what's what's going on here.
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  You know, you look up in the sky, you see these lines, you see them spread out, you see this low lying wet diaper serrated cloud cover that's clearly unnatural.
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  You know, you look up in the sky, you see these lines, you see them spread out, you see this low-lying wet diaper serrated cloud cover that's clearly unnatural.
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  You see these tremendous increases in these sort of temperature shifts, we see very suspicious storm patterns, Hurricane Helene is probably the most obvious to me, absolutely unnatural.
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  You see these tremendous increase in these sort of temperature shifts.
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  We see very suspicious storm patterns.
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  Hurricane Helene is probably the most obvious to me, absolutely unnatural.
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  And we say to ourselves, what the heck is going on?
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  And you know, your statement is that the atmosphere is for sale.
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  And I think, you know, the perhaps uh this uh lawsuit also touches on this.
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  Perhaps it doesn't quite so much, but we have these profiteers involved trying to, as you described, make money off of manipulating the the weather and the climate by polluting our skies.
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  Uh, and then of course, we've got the whole military side of things, which is, you know, is again may not be germane totally to this conversation, but is very germane to what's going on in the Middle East right now, as we've seen reports, widespread reports about dramatic changes in rainfall in countries like Iraq and Iran since some of the U.S.
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  military equipment has been taken out by the Iranians.
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  So we've got this gigantic mess going on over our heads that I think the scope of which is far beyond what the average person even suspects.
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  And uh you what you're describing to me is a an expert, a true expert in what's in in atmospheric research and someone who is blowing the whistle on this falsification of data or and/or destruction of data, which serve these these narratives that are geared toward profiteering and geared toward manipulation, artificial manipulation of the weather.
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  Is that a fair summary of what's going on?
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  Yes.
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  What's clear that people are studying the internet and everybody is working to learn more about lots of things, and the only way to learn is by having legitimate data, what people call AI nowadays.
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  And I'll tell you right now, you search up AI on geoengineering, you're not getting the correct data.
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  It's very obvious to me because everything you mentioned, Dr.
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  Baker is about geoengineering.
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  When you see the, as you call it, what diapers or you see these blanketing effect, that is geoengineering.
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  The intention is to put particles in the air and gaseous substances in the air in order to geoengineer.
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  Because what happens is when these commercial airlines, which is mostly what we see, most of what we see, fly in our atmosphere, and they create this effect.
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  That changes the atmosphere completely.
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  And it actually increases the Earth's temperature.
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  It does not decrease the Earth's temperature.
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  So people may think, oh, well, you know, maybe the quote unquote condensation trails or the trails or the chemical trails.
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  Well, you know, really what's happening is they're trying to reflect the sun's rays.
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  And it may reflect the sun rays, but what the scientists will tell you over that what it actually does is it caps the Earth's ability to release radiation, heat radiation, and increases the Earth's temperature.
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  So all of the various storms that you mentioned, the question would be to what extent are they related to all this airplane travel that is that is doing this?
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  So we I have to go to break, but we're going to come back in just a moment.
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  We're going to continue with that.
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  And, you know, this is very interesting legal work, and you've expressed how important it is to get this information out into the public.
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  And we have you have a remarkable whistleblower in your client.
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  We're going to talk about that, and we're going to talk about what listeners can do, what people can do to help.
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  So we'll be back in just a moment.
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  Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.
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  In the second segment, we're joined once again by attorney Blake Horwitz of the Blake Horowitz Law Firm, Chicago, Illinois, and the GeoFight.
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  And in the first segment, Mr.
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  Horwitz told us in detail what the first lawsuit that the geophyte has submitted is about.
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  It's a whistleblower lawsuit.
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  The whistleblower is a top expert geophysicist who is calling attention to the destruction of historical weather data in order to presumably push profiteering in weather manipulation and falsifying the historical record.
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  And so what in res in addition to that, I'd like to ask you, uh Blake, to tell us uh exactly who and what is the geo fight, and what other um approaches to stopping geoengineering from a legal standpoint you all are looking into, and what interested people can do to help you.
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  In addition to that, I'd like to ask you, uh Blake, to tell us uh exactly who and what is the geo fight, and what other um approaches to stopping geoengineering from a legal standpoint you all are looking into, and what interested people can do to help you.
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  Um, you know, this can't be cheap to do.
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  Um, you know, this can't be cheap to do.
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  So uh I'll turn it over to you.
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  So uh I'll turn it over to you.
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  Tell us a little bit about the geo fight.
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  Tell us a little bit about the geo fight.
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  So the geophytes.
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  So the geofight is a collection of lawyers and scientists and just regular individuals, civilians that have a very specific and keen focus, and the focus is to stop geoengineering, do everything we can to slow this down.
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  So, what we've done is we brought forth this lawsuit, which identifies everything that is going on in the United States, how it is that uh private actors are coming in to basically purchase a piece of the sky and contaminate it and engage in geoengineering, the involvement of the US government, the involvement of foreign governments, and what information there is available to people for people to understand.
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  This is a heavily intense 66 footnotes with about 55 projects undertaken by the United States and foreign actors and private companies to let people know what's going on.
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  That is what this does within 33 pages.
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  That's the first lawsuit we filed.
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  Where could where can people see this, see this lawsuit?
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  All one has to do is go to the first page of our website, the geofight.com.
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  And the lawsuit is easily downloadable uh with a click.
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  And I'd like to mention, you know, people think, well, my gosh, looking at a lawsuit that's pretty complex, I'm not a lawyer, that sort of deal.
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  The first four pages of the lawsuit approximately summarizes what's going on in pretty easy to read language.
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  It's not designed to um be very lawyerly.
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  As you as it goes on, it tends to get a little bit more lawyer-ish.
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  So, but I think a lot of people can follow it, and I think it's pretty understandable.
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  So at the end of the day, it's designed for people to consume it, read it, understand it, and do something about it.
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  So, who are we at the geophyte?
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  There's three core lawyers, myself, Nicole Pearson, and Tom Rens.
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  And we are 100% committed to getting the message out and doing something about it.
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  So we've done something initially about it with a very monumental lawsuit that really speaks to what's going on and get to the heart of the belly.
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  The heart of the belly is NOAA and University of Colorado in terms of all the research they're doing to help increase, in my opinion, to help increase the activity that relates to intervening in the climate.
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  So, how do people get involved?
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  Well, just go to the geo fight, go to the website, and quite simply, you put in your email address, and we are going to give you a ton of information.
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  Free.
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  So you go in there, you give us your email address, and it's pretty easy to figure that out.
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  Then we will give you a ton of data.
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  Now, you can also explain to us what is going on in your neck of the woods.
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  There's another tab for you to email us or submit information to the website.
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  You can both email it, and there's links to show you how to do that, or you can just upload information onto the website and you can explain to us what's going on.
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  Whistleblowers can also report.
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  It's a very extensive website, and it's designed to handle all the issues, all the questions that you have.
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  You can get access to the uh to the to the litigation, you can look at research that's been drafted by other scientists.
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  You can report what you see exactly above your skies.
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  You can submit photographs, you can send you can email us video and report what's transpiring.
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  The website's pretty extensive.
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  The website is a is basically an anti-geoengineering website that is designed to spread the word, get the information out, let us know what you see is going on.
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  You can also donate if you choose, and you can submit your email address, and we'll make sure that you get up-to-date data analyzed in regular English so that you can see what's going on in a very specific way.
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  So let me interact with Let me just finish one concept.
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  We're not here to make people afraid, right?
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  Of what's going on.
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  We are here to convert any fear that you have into action.
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  Everybody is engaging in this clickbait, fear-based analysis or approach on X and all the various um social media.
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  And we are not here to get people more afraid.
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  We are here to take action.
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  We are here to do something about this, and we are doing something about this.
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  So that's what the geophyte is about.
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  So let me summarize just for our listeners, because that's a ton of information that you just uh put out there.
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  So the way to get involved, uh, as I heard you just say it would be to number one, go to the website, the geofight.com and to interested people to put in your email because your email is going to allow the geophyte to send updates, to send information, relevant information on this issue.
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  So that's really important if people are interested in getting involved.
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  The second thing that I think is really, really important that you just said, and this is as someone who really is very committed to geoengineering myself.
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  So I'm I'm really thrilled to hear this, is that your goal is not to terrify people.
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  Um, you know, I've I've done this on the show for for months and months now, and it is terrifying.
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  It's scary.
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  And what happens is as one realizes the extent to which our our atmosphere is being manipulated, it it can be it can be paralyzing.
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  It's really, it's really scary stuff.
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  However the correct way to approach it is to address it head on, is to address it with knowledge, is not to um exaggerate beyond what is going on.
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  It's to find out exactly what's going on and to take action to stop it.
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  And that's been my intention through this podcast and through whatever work I've been doing outside of that.
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  That.
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  So I'm really thrilled to hear that that's the approach of the folks at the geo fight.
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  So I'm really thrilled to hear that that's the approach of the folks at the geofight.
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  The third thing that I would say that I think is so important is you know, and and you're very uh I I've gotten the feeling that you are very uh um reserved in this approach, but this this can't be cheap.
• 28:06
  The third thing that I would say that I think is so important is, you know, and and you're very uh I I've gotten the feeling that you are very uh um reserved in this approach, but this this can't be cheap.
• 28:21
  You know, lawsuits aren't done for free.
• 28:21
  You know, lawsuits aren't done for free.
• 28:24
  You need experts, you need uh research, you need all kinds of resources.
• 28:24
  You need experts, you need uh research, you need all kinds of resources, and you're fighting an absolutely gigantic uh opponent.
• 28:34
  So I would ask once again, if you're willing to tell us what people can do if they wish to contribute to your efforts, even in a small amount, or if there's a larger um uh contributor who wanted to uh contribute a significant sum of money.
• 28:53
  What are what do people do if they wish to do that?
• 28:57
  Well, I appreciate you asking the question.
• 29:00
  So we're up against multi-billionaire, nefarious actors.
• 29:07
  This is a very big industry.
• 29:10
  And they are trying to change the world plain and simple.
• 29:13
  I'm not saying that to generate fear, I'm saying that that's the reality.
• 29:18
  So citizens must get involved, and absolutely we would benefit through donations.
• 29:26
  And the donate if there's individual donors that are interested in having a more meaningful conversation about uh donating substantial sums and understanding what we're about, we have exposed what we're about.
• 29:38
  Take a look at that lawsuit.
• 29:39
  That's a lot of exposure to say what we're doing.
• 29:42
  And our website's pretty clear.
• 29:44
  But we're all happy to speak to donors if they like, if they want to contribute substantial sums and see where their money would go.
• 29:52
  But we're up against a behemoth, and we're not receiving a penny to do this.
• 29:59
  There's no way that we could do this without um support of the individuals.
• 30:04
  It's impossible.
• 30:06
  So uh we are the lawyers up to this moment in time when I speak to you right now, 100% pro bono.
• 30:14
  Meaning we are putting forth our time, and we haven't taken a penny.
• 30:17
  We have received donations.
• 30:18
  We haven't taken one penny of those donations at the present time because they must go for a scientific research and just the mere costs of being here up to this moment, getting that complaint filed and doing all the things necessary in order to spread the word.
• 30:35
  So, you know, the only issue that I have is I'm a lawyer, and whenever anybody hears the words, hey, the lawyers talking about contributions, then um people quite frankly get obnoxious and they start saying, well, therefore they're grifting and because you say the word lawyer, then you say the word money, and that seems to mean then that uh lawyers are unethical and all that other kind of nonsense.
• 30:59
  Well, let me be super clear.
• 31:00
  Look at the lawsuit we filed, look at what we've been up to.
• 31:03
  Not one penny has gone to the lawyers.
• 31:06
  And we have to hire lawyers.
• 31:09
  We have to do a heck of a lot of work.
• 31:11
  Um, hire scientists, hire lawyers, get scientific equipment.
• 31:16
  Because you know what?
• 31:18
  Scientific equipment cannot be put into the hands of the universities because they want to continue to promote the scientific research that helps the money to keep coming in.
• 31:29
  They are not seeking to put an end to geoengineering because that would reduce the amount of money that gets into their pocket.
• 31:37
  So this must be done by independent researchers who are not associated with universities, who do not want to increase the coffers of the universities, but independent scientists that want to go and do something about this in a scientific way.
• 31:50
  So, in other words, this is a system uh or or this is research that's going to need to be done, as you said, independently outside of the um sort of the academy.
• 32:04
  And uh to those who were paying attention during the COVID era, we see the same thing.
• 32:11
  We see the the mainstream medical um industry linking arms and defending what happened during COVID, even though the evidence is absolutely obvious now that was tremendous harms done at all different levels of society, because the funding comes from the bad actors.
• 32:37
  The funding comes from the people who shut down your business, who locked your kids out of school, who compelled you to get untested gene therapies that were falsely called vaccines.
• 32:55
  And the by and large, the entire industry, my industry, my profession, by and large, with a small number of exceptions, continues to follow that false narrative.
• 33:10
  And I see tremendous um parallels here.
• 33:15
  We see these institutions, um, these these academic institutions that are have basically been bought off.
• 33:24
  I mean, if you can, if you're gonna get a billion dollars a year and you can scrape a third of it right off the top, uh who's going to stand up and support what this whistleblower said.
• 33:37
  So we're fighting behemoth, and uh that's just that's the that's not to scare people, that's just a fact.
• 33:45
  And I would just say say you've got a say you've got a casual listener, someone who wants to donate 50, 100 or contribute 50, 100 bucks.
• 33:55
  How would they go about doing that?
• 33:56
  Just very's available at the geophyte.
• 33:59
  Everything, every single thing you want to do.
• 34:02
  Donate buttons right there.
• 34:03
  So go to so what I'm hearing you say is go to the website, um, put in your uh email, and that will allow you to get updates, just as with any other organization that you might get involved with.
• 34:18
  And and there's opportunities there if you wish to contribute, there's opportunities there.
• 34:23
  I understand if you wish to submit information about what's going on in your community or concerns that you may have.
• 34:31
  And so uh I think that that's really important for people to know.
• 34:34
  Uh I think that activating people is really important too, because doing my podcast, and that's why I'm really um supporting you guys, or or I'm very enthusiastic about what you're doing and trying to support you, is so many people don't know what to do.
• 34:53
  So many people feel helpless.
• 34:55
  And uh the clickbait and uh a lot of the information out there just is is increases fear.
• 35:00
  Information out there just is increases fear.
• 35:04
  If you increase a certain amount of uh of um how should I say it a little bit of awareness, but it's an awareness that isn't necessarily constructive.
• 35:07
  Um how should I say it?
• 35:08
  A little bit of awareness, but it's an awareness that isn't necessarily constructive.
• 35:12
  And so if you are listening and if you want to be actively involved, however, you can do it, um, this is an option.
• 35:12
  And so if you are listening and if you want to be actively involved, however you can do it, um, this is an option.
• 35:21
  So go to the geofight.com.
• 35:21
  So go to the geofight.com.
• 35:25
  Uh we have about two, three minutes in this segment.
• 35:25
  Uh we have about two, three minutes in this segment.
• 35:28
  Is there anything else you'd like to?
• 35:28
  Is there anything else you'd like to add to that?
• 35:31
  And in the third segment, we'll we'll we'll take it off in a in whatever direction you tend to go with.
• 35:36
  I'm interested in hearing about what you think the future holds for litigation.
• 35:41
  Obviously, this case was just filed.
• 35:43
  There's going to be a tremendous amount of work surrounding this case.
• 35:46
  But what other areas?
• 35:48
  Uh, what would you like to hear from people out in the community?
• 35:52
  What would be something that would take your organization in another direction to try and stop this from a legal standpoint?
• 36:01
  Well, um I don't want to talk about future litigation.
• 36:05
  I think that we've already um one would say shown our cards in this litigation by laying it all out there, but it's for public consumption.
• 36:15
  As to future litigation, we're analyzing many angles, and we will let everybody know what that is when we file it.
• 36:25
  But I think a lot of people are looking to us, and we don't want to let anybody down.
• 36:31
  In fact, with the filing of this lawsuit, I didn't even want to talk about it until we knew for sure we were gonna it was going to be filed, and there's things that lawyers need to do to make sure something gets filed.
• 36:40
  So I don't want to make any promises.
• 36:42
  And I also don't want to speculate about the future.
• 36:44
  What I want to do is demonstrate by specific evidence what we've done, a specific measurable result that you can look at and have tangible tangible asset, which is what this lawsuit is.
• 36:57
  You can see how uh Nicole, Tom, and I talk about it to help educate the people.
• 37:01
  You can look at our website, which's designed for education, it's not designed for fear.
• 37:06
  And I really would like to hone in on what you said, Dr.
• 37:10
  Baker, and that is that fear just generates confusion, and uh more people engage in clickbaiting.
• 37:18
  And at the end of the day, uh, we would like to promote a more positive message, and it is to be informed, and that we are taking action.
• 37:28
  So just by us doing what we're doing, that's the action that you could take, and that's exactly what we're doing.
• 37:34
  You're very good.
• 37:35
  So in the third segment, we'll be back in just a moment, and we will continue along these lines.
• 37:41
  And I always want to end things as positively as we possibly can.
• 37:46
  So we'll we'll see what um within the limits of what we can uh talk about, what we can predict uh future directions.
• 37:54
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• 37:54
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• 37:55
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• 37:59
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• 39:19
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• 39:20
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• 39:20
  Baker on the America Outloud Pulse Program on the America Out Loud Radio Network.
• 39:27
  So in this third segment, I'm joined once again by attorney Blake Harwitz of the Blake Harwood's Law Firm of Chicago and the GeoFight, which is a new coalition of lawyers, citizens, experts who are working together to expose and to stop the geoengineering menace that's going on over our heads, not just in the United States but worldwide.
• 39:58
  And on the break, uh Blake, you were talking about evidence and information that you at the geo fight have been receiving from people.
• 40:10
  Sounds like with very good intentions, but you were commenting on how some of it was useful, some of it was less useful, and sort of what can people do?
• 40:21
  They want to make a difference.
• 40:22
  What did it what can they do that's actually going to be useful to your efforts as opposed to kind of spinning one's gears?
• 40:30
  Okay.
• 40:31
  Well, so um, I was reflecting on the prior segment, and I was thinking to myself, well, a lot of people have already gone to labs and had um their blood tested and whatnot, and they've sent uh snow into labs and rain, water and things of that nature.
• 40:50
  That is helpful, but it is most often not usable by me, most often not usable by a lawyer because the testing requires that we follow a real rigorous um testing paradigm and study paradigm.
• 41:11
  And that's similar to Dr.
• 41:13
  Baker to what you would use when generating a proper peer review study.
• 41:19
  So for the medical industry.
• 41:22
  So, in other words, uh what they call anecdotal evidence.
• 41:25
  Um, I've had 100 patients report certain uh conditions to me, and therefore there's a pandemic going on, or therefore something is occurring um scientifically, uh, that's not the way science works.
• 41:40
  Anecdotal evidence can be helpful and it can kind of point you in a direction.
• 41:44
  But by anecdotal evidence, I mean one person coming in and saying something, one person out of uh out of let's say every 20 or every 50.
• 41:52
  Um, it's still anecdotal at the end of the day.
• 41:55
  There's a whole rigor to scientific analysis.
• 41:59
  So who does that kind of thing?
• 42:00
  That kind of thing.
• 42:00
  Labs do that kind of thing.
• 42:00
  Labs do that kind of thing.
• 42:02
  A certified lab can come get your water tested, a certified lab can have your blood tested, a certified lab can have the snow tested and the atmosphere tested and all those sorts of things.
• 42:02
  A certified lab can come get your water tested, a certified lab can have your blood tested, a certified lab can have the snow tested and the atmosphere tested and all those sorts of things.
• 42:14
  So there are a number of problems with somebody, for example, thinking that all they need to do is take a container out of their kitchen, put it in the, you know, put it in the rain and have a collect rainwater, and then you bring that to a lab.
• 42:14
  So there are a number of problems with somebody, for example, thinking that all they need to do is take a container out of their kitchen, put it in the, you know, put it in the rain and have a collect rainwater, and then you bring that to a lab.
• 42:29
  And they're
• 42:29
  And therefore, you can show high levels of um aluminum bearing strontium or any metal in the water, and therefore they're engaging in geoengineering.
• 42:40
  Science doesn't work that way.
• 42:42
  It doesn't work that way because the moment you took it out of your kitchen, you were creating a problem.
• 42:47
  In other words, the item you were using can be contaminated in the scientific sense.
• 42:52
  I'm not saying it's contaminated and people have dirty Tupperware.
• 42:55
  What I'm saying is that this is the way science works.
• 42:59
  So there's a requirement that we must follow the rules.
• 43:02
  So when I talked earlier about the importance of us getting gathering scientific data, what I mean by that is not that people haven't gone out there and done wonderful things for the purpose of trying to gather their own information.
• 43:22
  Please go ahead and do that.
• 43:23
  But what I am saying is that in order for this evidence to be admissible in court, it's another world altogether.
• 43:29
  And similar to how my client justin maybe is an atmospheric scientist.
• 43:35
  Well, they have to use some pretty specialized equipment in order to study the atmosphere.
• 43:39
  And they can't, for example, just take a uh um a scoop of error out of the uh atmosphere and put it under a microscope and whatnot.
• 43:48
  And there's a whole series of methods and techniques for doing that.
• 43:53
  So what's the most useful thing for an ordinary citizen to do?
• 43:57
  If they go to the geo site and they would like to help you, they would like to submit something.
• 44:02
  What what would be some some do you have some examples of some things that a person can do or can uh contribute that may be helpful?
• 44:11
  I would say if they feel like they have uh heavy metal toxicity and things of that nature, that that can be um that could be the beginning of an analysis or some other sort of um increased levels of some toxin and perhaps bronchial issues uh as it relates to sulfur dioxide and things of that nature that are put into the atmosphere and have that documented by a doctor.
• 44:40
  And you know, if you want to, you can send up.
• 44:43
  Well, I don't know if I at the present time would send us medical records, you have to uh treat that very carefully.
• 44:48
  But a collection of people in a certain area that have a particular bronchial condition.
• 44:53
  I am actually analyzing that now.
• 44:55
  I'm gonna be organizing the information we receive from individuals by location to see if there's a collection of individuals that demonstrate a pattern in a particular location.
• 45:05
  But at the end of the day, um, putting aside the fact that an individual can go to the doctor and get tested, right?
• 45:11
  Um, that doesn't mean that we know where the toxicity came from.
• 45:18
  Maybe you're eating tuna, maybe that has mercury in it.
• 45:21
  You know, maybe your hands are in soil a lot, maybe you work with machinery.
• 45:24
  There could be many reasons why it is that are that certain that blood levels contain certain uh toxic elements to it, for example, or high levels.
• 45:33
  What about uh plane watchers?
• 45:35
  We have people watching the planes that are spraying them overhead, it's very visible.
• 45:40
  Um, there are plane tracking programs that you can use your phone for.
• 45:46
  Is there value in that?
• 45:47
  And if so, what do people need to do?
• 45:50
  What kind of detail and what kind of um data do they need to send for it to be potentially useful to the geophyte?
• 45:59
  I would say that to say it quickly, you should do time-lapse photography, not just still shots.
• 46:05
  You should do time-lapse photography over a 20-minute time period with 10 second intervals if that can be understandable.
• 46:11
  It's a longer discussion, but time-lapse photography, which shows how it is that the um the trails follow the airplane, meaning the trails that come out of the airplane, how they disperse into the atmosphere, because that's information that atmospheric scientists can look at.
• 46:26
  If you have a still, in other words, I receive many still shots, and if there is a still, uh, it doesn't demonstrate how the um the trail will diffuse into the atmosphere, and that's pretty important information.
• 46:41
  So let me ask you a question very simply, because I'm really trying to gear this toward my listeners, and and it's fascinating, and I could sit and talk with you all morning about this.
• 46:50
  But I think for the listener, let's say you've got somebody, uh I I get con, you know, I get contacted by people.
• 46:57
  I'm sick of this.
• 46:58
  I'm sick of seeing these planes fly overhead and spraying crisscross patterns over my house.
• 47:04
  I'm sick to death of it.
• 47:06
  I see the stuff spread out, I see what's going on.
• 47:09
  It's not water vapor.
• 47:11
  And a lot of these crisscross patterns, it's not commercial jet planes either, because commercial jet planes don't fly in a checkerboard pattern over my house, and I want to do something about it.
• 47:22
  So what but taking a still shot is not going to be adequate.
• 47:27
  Um, if they wanted, and it's a longer conversation, as you said, but if someone really wanted to take action and they were willing to devote some time, or maybe get multiple people to devote some time and energy to this.
• 47:38
  Could someone contact, would it be worthwhile to contact you all at the geo fight and figure out what exactly needs to be done, what exactly could be useful to you all.
• 47:49
  So, since we're doing a video, people can replay this message.
• 47:52
  I can say very quickly what needs to be done.
• 47:54
  So you can replay it, you can listen to it to try to understand carefully what I'm saying.
• 47:58
  Within a 20-minute time period, one does 10 second increments in the first the beginning of every minute, you do 10 seconds.
• 48:06
  You do it over 20 minutes, and then you send to me the distilled information of what occurs over 20 minutes, but in 10 second increments.
• 48:14
  So, therefore, I'm gonna have 20 minutes times 10 seconds, and that's the amount of uh that's the size of the video I'll get.
• 48:20
  Then you also use flight tracking software, which demonstrates the altitude of the airplane.
• 48:28
  And one more thing, you download software onto your computer, which demonstrates the um the latitude and the longitude of where the photograph is taking place.
• 48:37
  So I have a cell phone on the cell phone, I download software that shows when a picture is being taken or a video is being taken, the latitude and longitude of the actual photograph or video that's being taken.
• 48:52
  Then you um do the 20-minute video, a 10 second 10 second increments, and you also use flight tracking software.
• 49:00
  And you also use flight tracking software.
• 49:02
  So I know that's a lot of data, but recognizing that you can replay what I said, if you think about it and you replay it five times, then you'll be able to understand and you just practice it.
• 49:02
  So I know that's a lot of data, but recognizing that you can replay what I said, if you think about it and you replay it five times, then you'll be able to understand and you just practice it.
• 49:12
  So if you if you get a little bit overwhelmed, give it to your kid, you know, people that are listening to this frequently, they're a little older, and they're like, Oh my god, I'm not doing that craziness.
• 49:12
  So if you if you get a little bit overwhelmed, give it to your kid, you know, people that are listening to this frequently, they're a little older, and they're like, oh my God, I'm not doing that craziness.
• 49:20
  It's just it's just enough for me to do what I'm doing.
• 49:20
  It's just it's just enough for me to do what I'm doing.
• 49:22
  So that's the way to do it.
• 49:22
  So that's the way to do it.
• 49:24
  Give it to your kid, give it to somebody under 30, and they can figure it out, replay the video, think about.
• 49:24
  Give it to your kid, give it to somebody under 30, and they can figure it out, replay the video, think about it, and uh that will be that is uh highly informative information.
• 49:36
  So one wants to watch the trail as it expands over time and see how it interrelates with other trails.
• 49:44
  That is what an atmospheric scientist would tell you, and that would be helpful information.
• 49:48
  Very good.
• 49:48
  So there's a lot there, and and that's very helpful.
• 49:51
  Um what I would just say is is if people are interested, and I'm really pushing this because you know, my listeners are fed up with this.
• 50:01
  Um, they're very concerned about it and appropriately so, and they're not sure exactly how to go about doing it.
• 50:08
  And I think that we need a critical mass of people that are doing useful things, not just um this the sort of public exposure, I think is largely out there.
• 50:21
  I can go into a con uh a standard conversation with people nowadays in many instances where people would have said I was nuts, and I can say, you know, the spraying overhead is awful today.
• 50:36
  And I don't get people looking at me like I have three heads anymore.
• 50:40
  And I'm talking about the so-called normies who really don't want to address this.
• 50:46
  People are aware, many people are aware that this is going on.
• 50:49
  But what that means is that just posting photos and stuff isn't going to be enough.
• 50:53
  Now we have to take it to the next step.
• 50:56
  We have to get usable information.
• 50:59
  It's not impossible to do, it's a bit more work.
• 51:02
  And I would just say, you know, uh the one of the best sources, if not the best source I've been able to find right now is you all at the geofight.
• 51:12
  Go to the website, the geofight.com.
• 51:15
  Um, if you can contribute, then contribute uh financially.
• 51:20
  If you can't, then look at what you can do to submit usable information.
• 51:26
  Uh and I suspect that your website's going to grow in terms of of uh um recommendations or suggestions to people on how to contribute to your efforts and how to take action at other levels because this is going to need a multi-pronged approach, I assume.
• 51:45
  Yeah.
• 51:45
  And you know, I think that um what we're trying to do is provide a vent, a focused place for people to go so that they can they can take care of business.
• 51:55
  I really want to encourage people to study up on this and understand what's going on and not just generate clickbait out there because quite frankly, people are getting overwhelmed and exasperated.
• 52:07
  And for maybe for some, that's the goal, right?
• 52:09
  But that that should not be the goal.
• 52:11
  The goal is information, and there are people that are willing to take the heat to get something done, and that's what we're doing.
• 52:17
  We're willing to take the heat to get something done and to uh work extremely hard, use our law license to uh to generate a difference.
• 52:26
  So that is what we're focused on.
• 52:32
  Very well.
• 52:33
  Uh that's extremely encouraging and uh I think hopefully empowering to listeners that we are seeing legal action being taken.
• 52:46
  To close up, we have about four minutes.
• 52:49
  I wanted you to um talk one a little bit more about this new lawsuit.
• 52:58
  Uh it's a whistleblower lawsuit.
• 53:00
  You described it in uh tremendous uh detail already.
• 53:04
  But if you could summarize for us what this case is one last time and why it's so important and why people should go to your website, the geophyte.com, get involved, get your email in there.
• 53:18
  If you can make a contribution, however small, do it.
• 53:22
  And um just tell us sort of where this one more time, why this is such an important lawsuit.
• 53:31
  Well, one of the things that one can do as a lawyer when uh filing a lawsuit is we can follow some rules, especially with regards to whistleblower cases that are designed to inform the public.
• 53:46
  And what we're in doing here is informing the public and creating a vehicle for people to take action.
• 53:54
  So this lawsuit is chalk full of everything you want to know in 33 pages, extremely condensed for you to read at your leisure and truly understand what's going on in almost almost every aspect of geoengineering and weather modification.
• 54:11
  It's not every single thing that could possibly be put under the sun, but it's an awful lot.
• 54:16
  And it's a lot for people to digest, and our goal is to inform.
• 54:21
  And our goal is to take action, because it's only when the light is presented to the darkness that things will be illuminated and people can get more information, and they're not just operating out of fear, but they can then take and take intelligent um next steps in order to move the ball forward.
• 54:40
  Our goal is for clean skies.
• 54:42
  That's what we want.
• 54:43
  We want the blue skies that we had just 10, 15 years ago, you know, 20 years ago.
• 54:48
  What we remember as kids, that's our hope.
• 54:51
  It's our dream.
• 54:51
  We want to have those blue skies.
• 54:54
  So the goal of the lawsuit is to uncover nefarious activity that is taking place, blow the whistle on it, and let people know about it.
• 55:04
  And that's what we've accomplished.
• 55:06
  So, in summary, I just want to just say three of the sentences that you just said.
• 55:13
  I'm just going to repeat them.
• 55:14
  Our goal is to inform, our goal is to take action, and our goal is for clear skies, the blue skies we had just a few years ago.
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  And with God bless you all for what you're doing.
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  Thank you for the efforts you're putting in.
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  Um, I'm happy to support you however best I can do so.
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  Uh, and uh I believe that many of my listeners are going to feel the same way.
• 55:42
  And uh I encourage folks, if you're interested, go to the geofight.com, uh submit your email so they can bring you updates so they can give you action items as time goes by.
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  If you can contribute even a small amount, then please do so, but get involved.
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  Do so, but get involved.
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  And uh I just want to thank you, uh Blake Horwitz uh from the Geofight uh for coming on to the show today.
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  And uh I just want to thank you, uh Blake Horwitz uh from the Geofight uh for coming on to the show today.
• 56:10
  And I hope to have you back again soon, and best of luck in the uh lawsuit, and all the best to your courageous whistleblower client.
• 56:10
  And I hope to have you back again soon, and best of luck in the uh lawsuit, and all the best to your courageous whistleblower client.
• 56:23
  Thank you.
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  Thank you.
• 56:23
  Well, thanks, Dr.
• 56:23
  Well thanks, Dr.
• 56:24
  Baker.
• 56:24
  Dr.
• 56:24
  Dr.
• 56:24
  Baker.
• 56:24
  Baker, thank you.
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  Thank you.
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  You've done a tremendous uh work in the uh
• 56:25
  You've done a tremendous uh work in the uh anti geoengineering world, and so you provided an opportunity and space for a lot of people to come forward and using your intellect as a doctor.
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  So it's been great to great to work with you.
• 56:40
  Okay, well, we'll hopefully continue our efforts going forward.
• 56:43
  Thanks very much, ladies and gentlemen.
• 56:45
  This is Dr.
• 56:45
  Clayton J.
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  Baker on the America Out Loud Pulse Program, America Out Loud Radio Network.
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  Till next time.