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062: A Franciscan in Troubled Times Part 1 · California Frontier

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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K-2: "Father Real was one of the most genial and kindly of the missionaries.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K-2: And he surprised all those with thought that every one of the fathers was severe.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K-2: He saw no harm in walking out among the young people and saying friendly things to them.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K-2: He was often known to go with young men on moonlight rides, lassoing grizzly bears, or chasing deer on the plain..
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K-2: His own horse was one of the best ever seen in the valley.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K-2: And the father wore a scarlet silk sash around his waist under the Franciscan habit." Guadalupe Vallejo.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K-2: Father, Jose Maria del Refugio Suárez del Real was the most unworthy priest that has desecrated the cloth in California."-James Alonso Forbes.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: If you're familiar with.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: My podcast, you're probably aware.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: That one of my gripes or pet peeves about how California history is perceived.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Is that it's done in such a.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Simplistic way.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: I've been interviewed on media from NPR to local public television stations to only be shown.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Regarding topics about California history.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: And one of the things I always try to do is to, is to bring on.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Some nuance some context, because I think that that's what gets left out most of the time, when we talk about California history.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Now this makes sense.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: In a lot of ways, because most people, if they've grown up in California, learned about the history of their state in fourth grade, and then probably stopped learning after that.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: And then there are people who know a whole lot experts.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Like the people I've interviewed on this show.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Whose knowledge is so advanced.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: That you know, It comes from a place of great specialization.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: So there's not a lot of people in the middle.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Who who really.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Understand.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: A lot about it.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: And so what I'm trying to do is to share.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: The different layers.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: And complexities and interesting stories.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: About California history, because I think they need to be shared.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: So what I want to do here.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Today is to talk a little bit about a person that I've researched.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: And I'll probably spread it over a number of different episodes.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: But who kind of shows how complex and contradictory.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: The people who populated the story of California, especially in the early days.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Were.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: He is uh, a Franciscan missionary.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Name was father.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Jose Medea.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: SWAT is the L'Oreal.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Now.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: You may have heard of him because during the, the era of the Ranchos, that the era of secularization, when the missions.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: The mission.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Chain was sort of dismantled.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: He was in charge of a number of missions.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Including, Mr.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: San Carlos.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: And Carmel.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Santa Clara, San Jose.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: And others, he was also in charge of going up to Sonoma at a certain point.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: So.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: He played an important role and he was also.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: A M a missionary president of California during the us occupation and up through the, the annexation and statehood of California.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: So I want to talk a little bit about him today.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: To try and give you some background to this.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: To this person in this period of time, which was so tumultuous for the people who were living in California.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: At that time.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: In fact the story begins in June of 1832 when nine young Franciscan missionaries.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: From the college of our lady of Guadalupe is like a tick us.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: In Mexico.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Arrived in tip peak in the state of Silicon notes in a LOA.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: They were about to board a ship to take them to the port of Monterey and Alta California.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: And there they were expected to take charge of several missions.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: No.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: All of these men had been born in the Americas and almost all of them born in new Spain, which later became Mexico.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: They probably were expecting.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: To go.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: And take over.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Well, I don't know.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: I don't know what kind of idea they had, but they were probably expecting to do more or less the same type of work.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: That their predecessors had done in Alta California.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: That is Spanish born missionaries.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: There's oversea missions.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: With native Pete, with communities of native people on them, et cetera.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: But little, did they know that when they actually arrived?
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Things would be kind of upside down.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: They're very identity is Franciscans and missionaries would be challenged in a way.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: That the Spanish born missionaries hadn't experienced.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: So.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Father rail as he was known.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Was, Born in 1804 in new Spain.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: I'm not sure exactly where something I'm working on.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: And then he had been, ordained a Franciscan priest in 1831 made his vows as well as this Franciscan.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: At the college of Zacatecas in 1828.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Now.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Why was he coming to Alta, California?
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Well, in 1827 and again, in 1829.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: The newly formed.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: The newly independent Mexican federal.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Government declared.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: The expulsion of almost all the Spaniards residing in the Republican Mexico.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: So.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Lay people, priests, religious nuns.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: We're all.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: If they were born in Spain, they were expected to return to Spain.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Of course.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: That was easier said than done, especially in Alta, California.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Where.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Basically all of the clergy were Spanish born.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: In any case.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: A number of them did leave.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Like father Antonio pity.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: A mission San Luis Rey, who we talked about with Elena Hazleton.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: So there were vacancies, there were spots, especially in Northern California.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Where they did not have a priest to minister either to the natives or also to the Hispanic population.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: So, What happened was.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: The Mexican government.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Decided to ask the college of Zika, tick us.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: To send missionaries.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: So what does that mean?
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: A college or Colicchio.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: In this circumstance.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: There's a place.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Where missionaries were trained were, were priests, friars were trained to become missionaries.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: So, for example, father who knit.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: So Sarah had been trained and most of the Spanish Franciscans in Alta California had been trained at the college of San Fernando in Mexico city.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: And most of them.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: We're Spanish.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: They spent several years.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Learning training to be a missionary.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: If you listen to the talk with Jeremy beer about father Garces, he talked a lot about their training and how rigorous it was.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Any case what the Mexican government was looking for.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: I was a college at cold.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: who had Mexican born Franciscans, Franciscans priests.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Who were not born in Spain, but were born in Mexico.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: And so the college.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Of our lady of Guadalupe have Zika tick us, had them.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: So they were.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Tasked with going and replacing the Spanish Franciscans who had left and all to California.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: No.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: While they were waiting.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: For their vessel to leave.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Another member joined the trip and that was a man named Jose Figueroa.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Ghetto Jose figured.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Oh, Had been governor of the territories of Sonora and Sina LOA and Mexico.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: And he was now being sent to Alta California.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Two.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Take over as governor there.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: And he was being tasked with the secularization.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: The dismantling of the mission system.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Okay.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: So it was almost ironic that he's traveling Figaroa is traveling on us, this ship.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Going to out the California with a bunch of missionaries.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Who are going to be sent to missions that are actually going to be.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Devolved into something else.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: So.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: This idea of secularization.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Which I spoke about in an earlier episode.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Was that.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: The missions.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: As native communities.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: We're meant to be actually come become towns.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: The mission community would become a Pueblo at town.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: And the missionaries themselves.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Would be replaced with, clergyman.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Who were what they call secular.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: That is.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: They weren't part of a religious order.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: They were attached to a parish, right?
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: And, then the parish would.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: And the village would be self-supporting and pay taxes as well.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: That's another thing that the, the, the Spanish crown wanted.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: So that was a goal that they had set.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Already during Spanish times.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: But it never came about because the Franciscans, would always object at the, that the native people we're not ready.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: To be.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Sort of transformed into Spanish citizens yet.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: And so they needed.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: To still live under the regime of the missions.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: No.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: The previous governor.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Of Alta California.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: had already.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Decreed that the missions would be secularized in 1831.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: But.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: It didn't happen or he, he moved a lot more slowly.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Because a father in our Cecil dura and who was the president of the California missions at the time, Franciscan.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Really objected.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: And for that precise reason, he felt that the.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: That not only were the native people not ready.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: But he felt that.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Secularizing the missions would actually leave the whole thing open to unscrupulous people who would try and take advantage and just I get ahold of the mission properties and use them for cheap labor.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: So.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: It hadn't really happened except for, One or two missions in Southern California.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Now figured O a.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Was determined to actually make it happen.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: But he had been warned by the Mexican government to proceed in a very prudent and.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: And slow way.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: They eventually arrived in Alta California.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: In early of 1833, all of them.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: In fact, the ship, had to stop early on and Cabo San Lucas.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: That was, the journey was really difficult.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: There were a lot of storms.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: And there were even mutinies aboard the ship.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: So when they stopped in Cabo San Lucas, Father Rael father Jose.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Rail.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: And his brother Antonio, he had a brother who was also a Franciscan priest coming to Alta California.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: They actually got off the ship.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: And went Overland.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: So when they arrived there, Jose Del.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Al's first assignment was mission San Carlos border.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: A male.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Which is on the Carmel river and was the place that had been the headquarters of who nippers.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Procera.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: And he's buried there.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: As you know, But when, when rail arrived there, It was in very bad shape.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: If you were to go to Carmel.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: The mission at Carmel today has been very beautifully restored, but at that time, It was really already kind of falling apart.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: And this is 1833, but a couple of years later in 1835.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: They were even taking the tiles.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Off of the, the mission church.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: To build the city hall.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: So, It was a difficult time to arrive in Alta California.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: And the times have been difficult for, for already a couple of decades.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Francisco García Diego, who was one of the priests that accompany for the rail?
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Eventually was made the father prefect.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Of the missionaries.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Wrote a letter.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: At one point saying that.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: The demands since 1810.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: On the missionaries and the missions and the Indians have been so much.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: That.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: It, it has been devastating.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: And in fact, what he was complaining about was it seemed that the missions were only.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Producing goods for the military, for the procedures.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: And this is something we've talked about before.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: That after 1810 with the struggles in Mexico over independence.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Supply ships stopped coming.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: From Mexico.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: New Spain.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: To Alto, California to resupply the procedures.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: And so.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: It felt to the missions.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Too.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Help.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Maintain the procedures.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: This caused a lot of discontent.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Among native people.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Contributed to a lot of native people running away.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: And not only that, but revolts like the 1824 Chumash revolt.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: That we spoke about with Dr.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: John Johnson.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: So this was a very difficult time.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: And not only that.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: But when soon after father rail arrived, Governor Figueroa.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Publishes decree.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: To secularize the missions.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: That is to a point.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Administrators, civilian administrators to oversee them and to redistribute the lands.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: And the goods, including the real estate of the missions to buildings.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: All of their supplies, tools, et cetera.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: So Rachel was ordered to work with this administrator.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Jose Joaquin Gomez was his name.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: To draw up an inventory of the mission, property supplies, and livestock.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: And then to sort of a prey make an appraisal, the total value.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: The final document was 39 pages long.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: But this.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Led to something that was also very difficult.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: For rail and the other Franciscans once they made.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: This appraisal.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Once they did the inventory of the properties.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Then those properties could be sold off or.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: You know, redistributed amongst the Indians.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Some of them were not all.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: But.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: None of the proceeds of those transactions would go to the Franciscans now.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: The Franciscans, of course.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Lived.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: At the missions previously.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: And as such, you know, they lived off of the, the produce of the missions.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Right.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: So.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: None of those proceeds now would go to the Franciscans and effectively.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: They no longer had any income.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: So he was basically told you don't have any income.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: You don't have any means of support now.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Figure it out for yourself.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: So.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: That is where he wound up.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: In just one year after arriving in Alta, California.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: And it wasn't just father rachel.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: But almost all of them.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: And the problem was here.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: That not only was the mission no longer a way for them to be supported.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: But.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: There was an idea that, well, then the local.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Kelly Ford meals to local settlers.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Would Thai that is give a portion of their, earnings to the church in order to support the missionaries as well.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: That was not a practice that ever took hold in Alta, California, right?
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: And so almost nobody was giving any money to support the church to support.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: The missionaries.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: And so not only was he.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Living.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: In a dilapidated mission.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: And now the property had been taken away.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: But there was no means of support, no income, no tithing.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: No donations.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: So he found himself in a very difficult position so much so that.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Father Francisco Garcia.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Diego, who I mentioned before the father prefect.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: The Zack, a tick and missionaries in California wrote letters to governor Figueiredo and you can find these letters.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: In the archives.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: And he said, and I quote, the ministers of religion is the priests should be respected by men and they should have the means to subsist and to conduct divine worship.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Garcia said.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: And he said didn't, if the faithful do not provide this, that is the means to subsist, to which end they are bound.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: That is.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: They're they're supposed to support their priests.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: We can not be held responsible for the spiritual tasks to which we are about.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: In other words, if they don't support us.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: We don't have a way to go minister to them.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: So this was the situation into which these men came.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: And father Raul in particular.
• 18:35
  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: I'm going to stop there and we'll talk more about what happened to him later and what happened to these guys?
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: And how, The later events of California history affected them.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: And how they impacted those events.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: And I think you're going to find it very interesting.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: But for now, think about this time period.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: In California's history and how things.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: Changed.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: So we'll be talking more about this.
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  RODECaster Duo Main Stereo & Cam Link 4K: So stay tuned.
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