Latest / The Bootleg Kev Podcast / #599 - Ty Dolla $ign Talks 'Tycoon' , Signing Leon Thomas, Vultures, Free TC 10-Year Anniversary & More
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- 1:03Speaker 1: the interview.
- 1:08Speaker 2: So how does this work?
- 1:09Speaker 3: Like when you interview people, do you like actually do
- 1:12Speaker 3: research or do you go on chat GPT or.
- 1:14Speaker 1: I don't know. I definitely don't do chat EPT.
- 1:16Speaker 2: Now, so what do you do?
- 1:18Speaker 1: So all I have is my brain and then I
- 1:21Speaker 1: just I literally just air drop myself whatever talking points
- 1:24Speaker 1: your label sent me, but I mean set me talking points.
- 1:28Speaker 1: But it's like most I mean, all this shit is like.
- 1:31Speaker 2: But you're gonna do some freestyling as well, right of
- 1:34Speaker 2: all of.
- 1:34Speaker 1: My ship is all off the top. Ye, I'm not
- 1:37Speaker 1: like I do never have, like in my career written
- 1:39Speaker 1: down a question and like asked it. Like hey, so
- 1:43Speaker 1: I just like have like a few things on here.
- 1:45Speaker 1: Okay that i'm's out?
- 1:46Speaker 2: All right?
- 1:46Speaker 3: All right, people, I know you're used to this shit
- 1:48Speaker 3: going the other way around. Now I can go the
- 1:50Speaker 3: other way around. Pause, big pause. We kicked the interview
- 1:54Speaker 3: off tight. All the side is in the building, yes, sir, yeah, keV.
- 1:59Speaker 1: Hey manon, I feel like we have been waiting for
- 2:03Speaker 1: Tycoon for so long. I remember, damn driving a Coachella
- 2:06Speaker 1: and seeing the billboards.
- 2:08Speaker 3: Yeah that was April. Yeah, it has been a long time.
- 2:12Speaker 3: It's almost the end of the year, or it is
- 2:14Speaker 3: the end of the year, right.
- 2:15Speaker 1: A couple of delays, but it's finally here. How's a feel, man?
- 2:18Speaker 1: And like like also like was the delays? Did it
- 2:21Speaker 1: change the sound of the album?
- 2:24Speaker 3: Definitely gave me time to you know, rethink some things
- 2:29Speaker 3: and take things to a higher level. Also gave a
- 2:34Speaker 3: couple of people time to change their minds. So I've
- 2:39Speaker 3: been just like going crazy this last week trying to
- 2:44Speaker 3: you know, get all these clearances right. And when the
- 2:46Speaker 3: clearance comes that doesn't work, you gotta you know, call
- 2:51Speaker 3: it audible. And I am Ti Dallas Sience. So I'm
- 2:54Speaker 3: not worried about it. I really do this music shit.
- 2:56Speaker 3: And you know, when people drop the ball, you just
- 3:00Speaker 3: got to pick it up and dunk that motherfucking nigga.
- 3:03Speaker 2: Let's go.
- 3:03Speaker 1: So when you say people change their minds, like in
- 3:06Speaker 1: terms of like wanting to be on the album or
- 3:08Speaker 1: clearing the verse.
- 3:09Speaker 3: Or you know, it's a whole bunch of different little
- 3:13Speaker 3: shit that had happened, you know, during this last six months,
- 3:16Speaker 3: so you know.
- 3:17Speaker 1: It's like a song that you that would have been
- 3:19Speaker 1: on the hour or maybe a feature that would have
- 3:20Speaker 1: been on the album if the Albu would dropped six
- 3:21Speaker 1: months ago.
- 3:22Speaker 2: It isn't on anymore exactly.
- 3:24Speaker 1: Yeah. Is that frustrating?
- 3:25Speaker 2: Though? It could get frustrated probably the first two days
- 3:30Speaker 2: and uh really me.
- 3:33Speaker 3: You know that's when the fingers started pointing on why, well,
- 3:35Speaker 3: what if it was happened this way, then it would
- 3:37Speaker 3: have been done, if we would have just done But
- 3:39Speaker 3: you can't even think like that. You got to just
- 3:41Speaker 3: figure out solution. That's my whole ship.
- 3:43Speaker 2: Do you do?
- 3:43Speaker 1: You take that shit personal though?
- 3:46Speaker 2: I've taken personal for the first couple of hours for sure.
- 3:49Speaker 1: Yeah, because you're like, wait a minute, what because I
- 3:51Speaker 1: feel like it happens a lot too, like with artists.
- 3:52Speaker 2: Because it's like, I don't help all you niggas. Man.
- 3:55Speaker 3: I didn't like, you know, put money in hell of
- 3:58Speaker 3: people's pockets, and it's like, when it's time to look
- 4:01Speaker 3: out for ty Dolla sign, it'd be like, man, where's
- 4:04Speaker 3: everybody at? But I guess when you look at the
- 4:07Speaker 3: check list, they're like, what nigga, they're here, right? I
- 4:11Speaker 3: got a lot of friends that did show up, So
- 4:13Speaker 3: shout out to those of you that did show up,
- 4:15Speaker 3: and uh, you know, let's keep this shit going.
- 4:18Speaker 1: Yeah, I think too. Like, like you said, man, you've
- 4:20Speaker 1: kind of been such an integral part of so many
- 4:24Speaker 1: people's careers quietly, loudly, even like giving people records.
- 4:28Speaker 2: Like Yeah, for you, is it like.
- 4:32Speaker 1: Do you feel like you Cause you know what I
- 4:35Speaker 1: really loved about the Vultures Run was it felt like
- 4:38Speaker 1: you were finally kind of getting like a lot of
- 4:41Speaker 1: the respect and flowers I felt like you deserve for
- 4:44Speaker 1: so long because I always tell people like when it
- 4:45Speaker 1: comes to just pure talent, like I don't know if
- 4:47Speaker 1: there's any Like you're a fucking alien bro, Like you
- 4:49Speaker 1: can play the instruments, you could see, you could write,
- 4:53Speaker 1: you're one of the You're one of them ones for real.
- 4:56Speaker 1: But you know, for you, is it like, dude, do
- 4:58Speaker 1: you feel like you're finally kind of getting and that
- 5:00Speaker 1: the respect and the flowers in terms of like kind
- 5:02Speaker 1: of your contributions and just your talent in general.
- 5:06Speaker 3: I feel like I've been getting in for a while,
- 5:08Speaker 3: but the respect goes in different levels.
- 5:10Speaker 2: You know.
- 5:12Speaker 3: For me, my career has always done this every single year,
- 5:19Speaker 3: So I've been I've been cool with it. Like I've
- 5:23Speaker 3: read where they say underrated this, underrated that. But to me,
- 5:26Speaker 3: it's like, look back at two thousand and ten, toutored
- 5:31Speaker 3: and booted until now and who else from back then
- 5:35Speaker 3: is still doing it at the level.
- 5:36Speaker 1: All Star was crazy though, exactly, Like that is kind
- 5:41Speaker 1: of wild because it really is just like you and
- 5:44Speaker 1: from from at least from out here. I feel like
- 5:46Speaker 1: obviously the TD guys and YG Yeah exactly.
- 5:49Speaker 2: And it's like.
- 5:52Speaker 3: These days, it seems like it's easier to get it
- 5:54Speaker 3: hit because you got the internet. You know, you got
- 5:55Speaker 3: straight to the fans, you know what I mean. Anybody
- 5:57Speaker 3: can get on DSPs and a lot of people put
- 5:59Speaker 3: out songs and there's a lot of you know, songs
- 6:02Speaker 3: that go up when it seems like there's people that
- 6:06Speaker 3: are not even like real music people, you know what
- 6:08Speaker 3: I mean. Like, but the people that actually last is
- 6:11Speaker 3: a whole different thing. You know, it's easy to get
- 6:13Speaker 3: this ship, but who could keep it?
- 6:15Speaker 2: What is it's hard to get this ship, it's even
- 6:18Speaker 2: harder to keep it.
- 6:18Speaker 1: Yeah, it's easier to get it, but it's harder to
- 6:20Speaker 1: have the longevity what would you just feel like is like,
- 6:22Speaker 1: you know, the key to your longevity in terms of
- 6:24Speaker 1: just always being relevant for so long.
- 6:27Speaker 3: Just my knowledge on music, my passion for music, and
- 6:32Speaker 3: actually like loving what I do. I feel like that's
- 6:35Speaker 3: the only way you could do something for as long as.
- 6:37Speaker 2: I've done it. You got to have passion as long
- 6:39Speaker 2: as you you've done it. Yo.
- 6:42Speaker 1: The crazy thing too, is the ten year anniversary to
- 6:44Speaker 1: free CC is coming up.
- 6:46Speaker 2: The what anniversary?
- 6:48Speaker 1: I think it's been ten years?
- 6:49Speaker 2: Oh okay, I thought you said twenty And for real.
- 6:52Speaker 1: That's a ten five. Jesus, ain't that old? Jesus? Can
- 6:57Speaker 1: you walk me through?
- 6:58Speaker 2: You know?
- 7:00Speaker 1: First of all, that album is Crazy Horses is one
- 7:03Speaker 1: of my favorite records of all time.
- 7:05Speaker 2: That is that was just talking about horses on the
- 7:08Speaker 2: my chat. I've been streaming this ship lately, tied.
- 7:10Speaker 3: I was on Twitch for those of you that don't
- 7:13Speaker 3: know my ship booming but uh and also shout out
- 7:17Speaker 3: to Dreysonatra for.
- 7:17Speaker 1: Helping me, Like, shout out to dre and get it,
- 7:20Speaker 1: you know, rolling this Happy birthday, Happy birth yesterday? Wasn't
- 7:25Speaker 1: it yesterday? Yeah? Yeah, Drey's birthday was yesterday. You forgot
- 7:30Speaker 1: damn well.
- 7:31Speaker 3: You know what's even crazy if somebody told me, you know,
- 7:33Speaker 3: it's Dre's birthday, and like I had, I had like
- 7:36Speaker 3: fucking eighty things going on at once. That's my actual brother,
- 7:39Speaker 3: so I know he knows. I'm sure he has a
- 7:42Speaker 3: party coming up. I'm definitely.
- 7:44Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure he was at Sam's last night, right,
- 7:46Speaker 1: That is Dson not the type of thing either Sam's
- 7:50Speaker 1: or Hong Kong.
- 7:52Speaker 3: You're gonna be fifty DJ and then the strip club.
- 7:55Speaker 3: He's like that type of DJ.
- 7:57Speaker 1: But you were talking about horses and you were Drake.
- 7:59Speaker 2: Oh, so this is in a stable.
- 8:03Speaker 3: I got fried for that song at first, like by
- 8:05Speaker 3: all the feminists and a lot of like uncool women,
- 8:10Speaker 3: and uh that's because I was like, you know, referring
- 8:15Speaker 3: to women as a horse. But a lot of people
- 8:17Speaker 3: don't know that my homegirl wrote that song. So shout
- 8:21Speaker 3: out to Tish, you're a fucking genius, and shout out
- 8:24Speaker 3: to those of you that understood the metaphor and didn't
- 8:27Speaker 3: take it personal, because you know, we got to stop
- 8:30Speaker 3: this whole sensitive this whole sensitive thing.
- 8:33Speaker 1: You know, alcohol into the interview.
- 8:37Speaker 2: We're bringing alcohol into the interview.
- 8:39Speaker 1: What is this is this champagne.
- 8:40Speaker 2: This is champagne. This is for you.
- 8:42Speaker 3: This is uh, you know, I am a tycoon. I
- 8:44Speaker 3: have a champagne now. It's called lebon and Jean.
- 8:47Speaker 1: This is yours.
- 8:47Speaker 3: This is my champagne. Bro it's yours though, thank you.
- 8:51Speaker 3: It's in all stores. Make sure you guys celebrate with
- 8:55Speaker 3: us this new Year's this uh and this this bottle.
- 9:00Speaker 2: Thank you brother?
- 9:01Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fire. Were you like, did you guys have
- 9:05Speaker 1: a debate like which liquor you wanted to do and
- 9:08Speaker 1: was like, yeah, we had your champagne or what did
- 9:10Speaker 1: like did a tequila almost win?
- 9:12Speaker 2: It actually came to me, man or it came to you. Okay,
- 9:14Speaker 2: it came to me.
- 9:15Speaker 3: It fell in my lap. Pause, and I thought it
- 9:19Speaker 3: was a great brand. I thought it matched to, you know,
- 9:23Speaker 3: my whole vibe.
- 9:24Speaker 1: It's a beautiful bottle.
- 9:25Speaker 2: Thank you, so shout out to the whole team.
- 9:27Speaker 1: I gotta get this in eleven eleven in scott Steel.
- 9:30Speaker 3: Yeah, we gotta get it there. What we got to
- 9:32Speaker 3: get it at eleven and eleven Scotts stuff. If you
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- 9:38Speaker 2: I haven't.
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- 11:21Speaker 1: get back to the interview. But no, like, can you
- 11:23Speaker 1: kind of just like let's talk about the ten year
- 11:25Speaker 1: anniversary of this album because I felt like, you you know,
- 11:28Speaker 1: it kind of accumulates with the Coachella situation because you
- 11:31Speaker 1: had such a powerful moment at Coachella, incorporating your brother,
- 11:36Speaker 1: You had Dre dress like a damn cop.
- 11:40Speaker 2: It was.
- 11:42Speaker 1: But it was, you know, it was it was such
- 11:44Speaker 1: a well thought out set and I felt like, you know,
- 11:47Speaker 1: there was a lot of messaging behind it too, But
- 11:49Speaker 1: in terms of even just like this album being called
- 11:51Speaker 1: free TC dedicated to your brother, Like, you know it's
- 11:55Speaker 1: been ten years, man, Like, how is he doing? And
- 11:58Speaker 1: how how cool was it to be able to kind
- 11:59Speaker 1: of bring him to the Coachella.
- 12:03Speaker 2: It is very cool, man.
- 12:04Speaker 1: Was it easy to make happen?
- 12:06Speaker 2: Really?
- 12:06Speaker 3: It's just like a video from back in the day
- 12:09Speaker 3: that I had him singing and I had my video
- 12:13Speaker 3: guys put it up on the video wall. I added
- 12:17Speaker 3: backgrounds and music to the song that my brother was
- 12:20Speaker 3: already singing, and you know, we really make this music.
- 12:23Speaker 2: So it was easy for me. It was easy to
- 12:26Speaker 2: get it up there.
- 12:27Speaker 3: It was kind of harder to perform pull back tears
- 12:30Speaker 3: and shit like damn, I finally could to, you know,
- 12:33Speaker 3: perform with my brother on Coachella.
- 12:35Speaker 2: We figured it out. You know, it ain't a hologram
- 12:38Speaker 2: or nothing but right, but we did it.
- 12:40Speaker 1: Yeah, it was definitely. Yeah, I thought that was that
- 12:43Speaker 1: was special man. This new album, how would you describe it?
- 12:47Speaker 1: Because I feel like each one of your projects has
- 12:49Speaker 1: its own kind of like aesthetic and vibe even sonically. Yeah,
- 12:55Speaker 1: where would you say Tycoon is at?
- 12:57Speaker 2: It's just.
- 12:59Speaker 3: You know, went up on the sound. I advanced the sound.
- 13:01Speaker 3: I can't never give you guys the same thing that
- 13:03Speaker 3: I did before. But it's still you know what you
- 13:08Speaker 3: it's still banging. You feel me, it's banging. It's it's
- 13:10Speaker 3: it's what you want. It's like everything that you want
- 13:13Speaker 3: with the song, but to the next level, just like
- 13:16Speaker 3: you know, doctor and the sounds not using the same
- 13:19Speaker 3: sounds as anybody else. The bars are up, I'm like,
- 13:22Speaker 3: barn it out. My vocals are up, the backgrounds are back,
- 13:25Speaker 3: the runs are going crazy. Everything is there. If you
- 13:29Speaker 3: want R and B, that's there. If you want the club,
- 13:32Speaker 3: that's there. If you want the the festival, that's there.
- 13:35Speaker 3: If you want if you want something to bathe to
- 13:38Speaker 3: or to get dressed to, that's anything too.
- 13:41Speaker 2: I fucking hate shrooms.
- 13:43Speaker 1: I don't I love them.
- 13:45Speaker 3: Brou I don't know if you ever, I don't. I
- 13:47Speaker 3: don't want to like uh into existence for you. But
- 13:51Speaker 3: you know how you you have that like what do
- 13:54Speaker 3: you call it? The endorphins go off and like you
- 13:57Speaker 3: get the full happiness, right. Yeah, it can also go
- 14:01Speaker 3: the opposite way. So one time I'm I'm on my
- 14:06Speaker 3: radio run for my song motion, which we put out
- 14:09Speaker 3: what last year or right before the Vultures project, This
- 14:13Speaker 3: is what I put out. So two years ago I
- 14:15Speaker 3: put this out and I go on the radio run.
- 14:19Speaker 3: So we started in the Bay and we're going all
- 14:20Speaker 3: the way down California. I do the Bay Ones. It
- 14:24Speaker 3: goes well. I do the Central cow one. What is
- 14:29Speaker 3: that called? Not Fresno, but we're Anderson Pacts from Tura.
- 14:36Speaker 3: I do that, and then I got to go from
- 14:38Speaker 3: there to like Bakersfield or to Fresnoe or something. So
- 14:42Speaker 3: it's like another hour long however, and I do the
- 14:46Speaker 3: shows right before that. Get on this radio show. I'm
- 14:49Speaker 3: funny as hell. I'm going crazy. Everybody's loving it. Get
- 14:53Speaker 3: in the car, look at my phone. And this just
- 14:56Speaker 3: happened to be the day that they called me and
- 14:57Speaker 3: told me Big Why I die? Bro Big from the
- 15:00Speaker 3: Relatives who also signed Cali Swag District, who also just
- 15:03Speaker 3: did a lot for La Rap, you know, and one
- 15:06Speaker 3: of the best Ellie rappers ever and one of the
- 15:09Speaker 3: best Big homies ever. When that happened, Bro, and I
- 15:14Speaker 3: was off shrooms and I'm in the back seat by myself,
- 15:16Speaker 3: nobody to talk to. It's just like maybe never want
- 15:19Speaker 3: to do that shit again. And I'm a firm believer
- 15:22Speaker 3: of weed. That's all we need. But weed is not
- 15:26Speaker 3: for everybody.
- 15:26Speaker 1: I say that, Yeah, but because like you don't eat weed,
- 15:29Speaker 1: do you?
- 15:30Speaker 2: I don't eat weed. I hate fucking.
- 15:32Speaker 1: Edibles are the devil broy. I think edibles is like
- 15:36Speaker 1: I could I could eat a fucking full eighth of
- 15:39Speaker 1: mushrooms and be okay if I have like.
- 15:41Speaker 2: You said, I could eat ass and be okay.
- 15:43Speaker 1: But if I eat if I eat like twenty five
- 15:47Speaker 1: fucking milligrams of edibles, I am twacked.
- 15:52Speaker 2: If I eat one fucking gummy bear of edibles on twig.
- 15:56Speaker 1: That shit is terrible, And then you can't get rid
- 15:57Speaker 1: of it. You gotta like just you just gotta just
- 15:59Speaker 1: get through. It's yeah, it's bad, it's it's it's it's
- 16:03Speaker 1: interesting too, because I feel like, for you, man, do
- 16:07Speaker 1: you feel like this project is like because this is
- 16:14Speaker 1: your first album with easy Money being like on the
- 16:18Speaker 1: back of it, right, Yeah, do you feel like this
- 16:21Speaker 1: album is like like for you, like it's got to
- 16:24Speaker 1: be like a statement too, because you know, the Vulture
- 16:26Speaker 1: Drone was crazy, it felt like it was forever by
- 16:28Speaker 1: the way, but this is the first project since then.
- 16:32Speaker 1: Like you said, you know, I kind of feel like
- 16:34Speaker 1: the Vultures thing kind of came and like probably just
- 16:36Speaker 1: kind of threw a fork into any of the plans
- 16:39Speaker 1: that you had come in. Is this album a statement?
- 16:43Speaker 1: And was this all new music since Vultures?
- 16:45Speaker 2: Like, yeah, this is just a I even pulled up
- 16:50Speaker 2: some of the stuff with my hard draw from then
- 16:52Speaker 2: that I didn't use that was still fire. I got
- 16:56Speaker 2: new stuff because you work.
- 16:57Speaker 1: So much day and you probably get demoitis.
- 17:01Speaker 3: Sometimes I get demoitis, but I'm always down to like
- 17:05Speaker 3: upp a song and you know, experiment with it. So yeah, man,
- 17:11Speaker 3: I almost full of slap after slap after slap.
- 17:15Speaker 1: Yeah. It's funny because I remember I went to your
- 17:17Speaker 1: house one day, by the way, random night, I got
- 17:20Speaker 1: invited to your house to listen. I think it was
- 17:21Speaker 1: the Future inside all this album? Yeah, the Purple One
- 17:24Speaker 1: was that that one? Yeah, this is like a year
- 17:26Speaker 1: before that album actually comes out. And ushers at your house,
- 17:33Speaker 1: which was random as fuck, and me and Usher have
- 17:36Speaker 1: like a thirty minute conversation about how shitty the Game
- 17:39Speaker 1: of Thrones finale was in your kitchen, and I was like,
- 17:43Speaker 1: what the fuck this what is my life right now?
- 17:45Speaker 1: But nonetheless, you played me this album and it sounded
- 17:49Speaker 1: like it was. Not to say that I loved. I
- 17:52Speaker 1: loved what I ended up coming out, but it was
- 17:54Speaker 1: so different, like from what you played me. Yeah, so
- 17:56Speaker 1: like what actually came.
- 17:58Speaker 3: Was like what I played you was, I was making
- 18:01Speaker 3: an album called Tyron at first, it wasn't what I
- 18:04Speaker 3: ended up putting up. I ended up putting off future
- 18:06Speaker 3: entire dollars on because that's just what happened that week.
- 18:09Speaker 2: Is just like Tycoon. If I would have played it
- 18:14Speaker 2: for you six months ago, six months ago, it was
- 18:17Speaker 2: a little different. There was a couple of different songs
- 18:19Speaker 2: that I didn't end up using, just because of the
- 18:21Speaker 2: time that we are in this month. You know what
- 18:24Speaker 2: I mean.
- 18:24Speaker 1: You've had a lot of success with being a CEO, man,
- 18:30Speaker 1: and this is not obviously easy but easy money is
- 18:33Speaker 1: not like your first foray in trying the thing, because
- 18:35Speaker 1: you had the movement. Yeah, and fast forward, now we
- 18:40Speaker 1: got a guy, you know, Leon who is a superstar
- 18:43Speaker 1: in his own right. Yeah, and uh, it's got to
- 18:46Speaker 1: feel good, man, to kind of be able to put
- 18:49Speaker 1: on that hat and just get success, you know. And
- 18:52Speaker 1: and that that's that's I mean, he's such a talented guy. Man.
- 18:55Speaker 3: But what I've learned from all of this and what
- 18:57Speaker 3: I've learned from anything that you do in life, it's
- 19:00Speaker 3: like shit may take time, but it's only going to
- 19:04Speaker 3: not happen if you stop. Like I don't believe in
- 19:08Speaker 3: that canceled shit either, if like if the only way
- 19:13Speaker 3: you can get canceled is if you stop as well,
- 19:15Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like you.
- 19:16Speaker 1: Can for sure if you let the noise stop.
- 19:18Speaker 3: You can't let people just tell you no. You got
- 19:21Speaker 3: to just keep on going and shit, And there will
- 19:23Speaker 3: be a lot of those, There will be a lot
- 19:25Speaker 3: of those that are close to you, which makes it
- 19:27Speaker 3: even crazy. It's like you motherfuckers are supposed to be
- 19:29Speaker 3: with me, you know what I mean, Like the beginning
- 19:33Speaker 3: of my whole career, Like I've been making music since
- 19:36Speaker 3: I was four years old, and I didn't get on
- 19:38Speaker 3: until I was twenty seven. For real, My daughter was
- 19:41Speaker 3: born in five and two, didn't Buddha didn't come out
- 19:45Speaker 3: until two thousand and nine, didn't really like have a
- 19:48Speaker 3: record company behind it until twenty ten, and I still
- 19:52Speaker 3: didn't have a record deal, you know what I mean,
- 19:54Speaker 3: I end up giving that song up for free, but
- 19:57Speaker 3: we definitely got to perform and getting people's faces and and.
- 20:05Speaker 2: You know, get a name.
- 20:06Speaker 1: So what was it about?
- 20:07Speaker 2: How it's gonna happen?
- 20:08Speaker 1: I would say, what was it about? Like, uh, you
- 20:10Speaker 1: know that.
- 20:11Speaker 3: That that whole time everybody's telling me get a job.
- 20:14Speaker 3: You know, music is my mom saying music is a hobby.
- 20:17Speaker 2: Da da da da.
- 20:18Speaker 1: So it's like fast forward, Yeah, exactly what was it about? Leon?
- 20:22Speaker 2: Though?
- 20:22Speaker 1: That kind of made you want to, like, you know,
- 20:25Speaker 1: kind of be the face of the new venture. And
- 20:28Speaker 1: I mean, obviously he's so talented, man, I mean the
- 20:30Speaker 1: music speaks for itself.
- 20:31Speaker 3: On was just like the top level music that I
- 20:33Speaker 3: had heard likes to this day from when I first
- 20:36Speaker 3: heard him, Like, no one else is coming and been
- 20:38Speaker 3: as good as Leon.
- 20:39Speaker 2: Uh.
- 20:40Speaker 3: And I feel like at that time in the industry world,
- 20:45Speaker 3: everybody was afraid to touch something like that. It's like
- 20:48Speaker 3: all the music that was successful was fruity loose music,
- 20:52Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Able to music just like
- 20:54Speaker 3: program like simple shit and when's the last time you
- 20:57Speaker 3: heard somebody come out playing all live shit and get
- 21:00Speaker 3: a real hit. And it was like even after we
- 21:02Speaker 3: made the first album with him, everybody's calling me like, yo, Ty,
- 21:05Speaker 3: you need to give him some club shit. You need
- 21:07Speaker 3: to give him like a real radio smash d D
- 21:10Speaker 3: da DA. And I actually had the conversation with Leon like, Yo,
- 21:13Speaker 3: all right, well we could do this, we could do that.
- 21:15Speaker 2: Let's just fuck around.
- 21:17Speaker 3: And I end up calling him back the next fifteen
- 21:19Speaker 3: minutes like, bro, I'm tripping. I sound like a real
- 21:21Speaker 3: record company, nigga. These are the people that I've hated
- 21:23Speaker 3: my whole career.
- 21:24Speaker 1: That Yeah, Like, imagine me calling you saying, hey, we
- 21:26Speaker 1: need to get a club record.
- 21:27Speaker 2: Yeah, like, and.
- 21:30Speaker 3: I was like, stick to doing you. I promise you
- 21:32Speaker 3: it's gonna work. I love this shit. I know it's good.
- 21:35Speaker 3: You know it's good. Everybody around us knows it's good.
- 21:38Speaker 3: And the next thing, you know, he gets Mutt and
- 21:40Speaker 3: it works.
- 21:41Speaker 1: And Mud is one of them, like it is for
- 21:43Speaker 1: people who don't understand. Like on the radio side of things,
- 21:45Speaker 1: there are songs that like won't Die, like is still
- 21:49Speaker 1: in power rotation, It won't go away. It's always in
- 21:53Speaker 1: the top, like it hit number one for so long
- 21:55Speaker 1: and then it just won't. There's so it's crazy the
- 21:59Speaker 1: like shelf life of that record at radio.
- 22:01Speaker 3: Man, the people know, the people can feel it, and
- 22:04Speaker 3: that's all I gotta say. It's like, we know what
- 22:07Speaker 3: real music feels like. We know when a song is good.
- 22:09Speaker 3: We know, and that's why it's lasting.
- 22:11Speaker 1: Were you able to learn anything from, like, you know,
- 22:14Speaker 1: your time with like Taylor Gang in terms of like
- 22:16Speaker 1: maybe taking some stuff from Will and Whiz and applying
- 22:20Speaker 1: it to your own situation, your own imprint.
- 22:22Speaker 3: Yeah, everything I've done from the beginning until now, I
- 22:25Speaker 3: apply it to my.
- 22:26Speaker 1: Own, like just the whole journey.
- 22:28Speaker 3: Shout out to Will, Shout out to Whiz, everybody from
- 22:32Speaker 3: Taylor Gang.
- 22:33Speaker 2: We're still rocking. I just seen.
- 22:36Speaker 3: I just came out on Wizard Show the other day.
- 22:41Speaker 3: The main thing I learned from Wiz is, uh, whether
- 22:45Speaker 3: you're the number one by the books artists in the
- 22:50Speaker 3: world or not, you could still be a nice motherfucker.
- 22:55Speaker 2: You could still be cool to people.
- 22:56Speaker 3: Don't have to be a fucking dick bro and so
- 22:59Speaker 3: many people in this game or fucking assholes. But I
- 23:02Speaker 3: think that's because that's what they think you have to
- 23:05Speaker 3: be in order to you know, to win or to
- 23:07Speaker 3: keep your spot. And like that's the other thing to
- 23:11Speaker 3: keep in your spots. Shit, it's like, what this room
- 23:13Speaker 3: for everybody? If it shits good, bro, it's gonna be
- 23:15Speaker 3: the people who got to fuck with it. But you
- 23:16Speaker 3: can still put people on, Like what good is the
- 23:19Speaker 3: tree that doesn't bear fruit?
- 23:21Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
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- 24:24Speaker 1: get back to the podcast. I gotta thank you because
- 24:26Speaker 1: you've always been like the same guy, because you know
- 24:28Speaker 1: we've been rocking for so long. The coolest night of
- 24:32Speaker 1: my life you invited me to Vegas for the Vulture
- 24:34Speaker 1: shit and I ended up being in that fucking viral. Yeah,
- 24:40Speaker 1: you're playing pool and and it's funny because that night
- 24:44Speaker 1: I don't know how.
- 24:44Speaker 3: Much of you I got, how much money I took
- 24:46Speaker 3: from these guys that night listen.
- 24:48Speaker 1: I end up in a sprinter with your daughter Leon
- 24:51Speaker 1: and my boy Ron and we're going to whatever middle
- 24:55Speaker 1: of the desert listening things that ended up being.
- 24:58Speaker 2: Like a ship show by the way, that was like
- 24:59Speaker 2: only tw people in there.
- 25:00Speaker 1: Whatever it was, we didn't getting stuck in the sprinter
- 25:04Speaker 1: and bro Me and Leon Toms.
- 25:06Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, you guys didn't make it till the right
- 25:08Speaker 2: We were stuck.
- 25:09Speaker 3: Jalen was supposed to come on stage, and Jalen come
- 25:11Speaker 3: on and she just never come.
- 25:13Speaker 1: Bro me and that night because at that time, like
- 25:15Speaker 1: I'd heard of Leon Thomas, but I didn't like nobody
- 25:19Speaker 1: looked like So we started shooting the ship and me
- 25:22Speaker 1: and him like split a bag of mushrooms in the
- 25:24Speaker 1: sprinter and on the way like by the time we're
- 25:27Speaker 1: heading back to the Four Seasons, we're fucking twacked and
- 25:31Speaker 1: we're just like we're just like Ooxcord battling, like trippy.
- 25:35Speaker 1: I'm like playing Tame and Paula. He's playing Pink Floyd.
- 25:38Speaker 1: And then we end up in this room and like
- 25:40Speaker 1: fucking I'm just like, fuck kid cut there. I think
- 25:44Speaker 1: Little Dirk was there. Yeah, it was one of the
- 25:46Speaker 1: crazy It was one of the craziest nights ever. That
- 25:49Speaker 1: was the night the album was supposed to come out.
- 25:51Speaker 1: It was like the night. Yeah, wait, what when you
- 25:56Speaker 1: think of like some of these records that like would
- 25:57Speaker 1: probably never see a lot of the officially, Like I
- 25:59Speaker 1: think about that Back Street Boys record.
- 26:01Speaker 3: Yeah, man, jeez, that's like that one hurts that is
- 26:05Speaker 3: a fucking why because it's like if that would it
- 26:08Speaker 3: came out the Carnival.
- 26:09Speaker 1: Bro oh my god, you had Charlie Wilson on that.
- 26:13Speaker 2: That shit was crazy.
- 26:15Speaker 1: Did you guys know it would be a hard record to
- 26:16Speaker 1: try to get cleared?
- 26:20Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 26:20Speaker 3: I thought it would be just because of like the situations, you.
- 26:23Speaker 1: Know, just because everything all the noise, and yeah, all
- 26:26Speaker 1: the noise because it's on YouTube and like I know,
- 26:29Speaker 1: Motherfuckers was playing that ship like Drake was Drake was
- 26:31Speaker 1: playing that.
- 26:33Speaker 2: The crowd goes nuts.
- 26:36Speaker 3: Have you thought about I'm cool with the Backstreet Boys too,
- 26:38Speaker 3: and like AJ's my homie, we work on music, and
- 26:42Speaker 3: do you have the stems to that?
- 26:43Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 26:44Speaker 1: Have you thought about you just putting it out? It's
- 26:49Speaker 1: an idea.
- 26:51Speaker 2: I mean, it's an idea. It could happen.
- 26:53Speaker 1: It's such a great record, I would.
- 26:55Speaker 2: Say, yeah, did bring that to the table though, So.
- 26:57Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean that's fair. That's fair. By the
- 27:00Speaker 1: time this comes out, your album will already be out.
- 27:03Speaker 1: So I don't think the track list is out there, right.
- 27:07Speaker 3: I think I played a lot of the records on stream.
- 27:09Speaker 3: I had a couple parties when we talk.
- 27:11Speaker 1: About some of the futures, because I don't know who's
- 27:12Speaker 1: on this album outside of yeah, you know Tori.
- 27:15Speaker 3: I mean, but like I said, some of the people
- 27:18Speaker 3: that were some of the songs, some of the people
- 27:20Speaker 3: that were on the album last week may be different
- 27:22Speaker 3: this week.
- 27:24Speaker 1: Coming out twenty four hours from now. Yeah you know,
- 27:27Speaker 1: Tory Lane will be on the album.
- 27:29Speaker 3: Toy is on the album. Any song that out officially
- 27:31Speaker 3: is out officially.
- 27:33Speaker 1: How old is the toy verse? Six seven six seven?
- 27:41Speaker 1: Shout out to that motherfucking shout out the toy man,
- 27:44Speaker 1: and you could do what get a lot done on
- 27:45Speaker 1: the iPhone.
- 27:46Speaker 3: Hey, I don't know about none of that, but all
- 27:49Speaker 3: I'm saying is shout out to the Tory Man.
- 27:51Speaker 2: I love my brother.
- 27:54Speaker 3: I guess I'm the king of like messing with people
- 27:56Speaker 3: that are canceled or messing with people everyone else gives
- 28:00Speaker 3: up on. But I don't give up on my people.
- 28:02Speaker 2: Man.
- 28:03Speaker 3: You know, everybody goes through what they go through. We
- 28:05Speaker 3: all make mistakes, we're all humans, And like all you
- 28:08Speaker 3: little judges out there, I can't wait till the day
- 28:10Speaker 3: that you fuck up and everybody's pointing the finger at
- 28:13Speaker 3: your stupid ass.
- 28:14Speaker 1: Then you want to talk about alien. I mean, he's
- 28:16Speaker 1: one of those guys with you that's just a fucking alien. Yeah,
- 28:19Speaker 1: for sure, all time talented guy. And like that album
- 28:23Speaker 1: he dropped, was it last year or this year? Was
- 28:26Speaker 1: it last year? Like that one that he was like
- 28:31Speaker 1: apparently recorded in jail.
- 28:33Speaker 2: Yeah, that shit was hard. It was hard as fuck.
- 28:36Speaker 3: I mean he's always, you know, when it comes to music,
- 28:38Speaker 3: he's him.
- 28:41Speaker 1: Do you feel like when you when you like because
- 28:43Speaker 1: I feel like there are very few I kind of
- 28:45Speaker 1: talk about this on the MC side a lot when
- 28:47Speaker 1: I talk to like Freddy and like some of these
- 28:49Speaker 1: guys where I'm like, yo, there's only a few Jedies
- 28:51Speaker 1: out there. Yeah, like lyrically, you know what I'm saying.
- 28:53Speaker 1: But I feel like when it comes to like your space,
- 28:55Speaker 1: there's really only a few Jedies. It's like you, it's Chris,
- 29:00Speaker 1: It's Tory damn near, it to Jamie Fox. Motherfuckers who are.
- 29:04Speaker 2: Just Jamie Man. Shout out to Jamie.
- 29:07Speaker 1: But who else would you consider to kind of be
- 29:09Speaker 1: in that realm of just raw talent when it comes
- 29:12Speaker 1: to just everything.
- 29:13Speaker 2: Of course, I'm a big of Leon. He's really that guy.
- 29:18Speaker 3: Another person that is on the album that I found
- 29:21Speaker 3: out this about super Jedi Chloe Bailey. She fucked me
- 29:26Speaker 3: up when she came through the studio. First of all,
- 29:30Speaker 3: she came solo. She didn't come with a big as squad.
- 29:33Speaker 3: I'm like, all right, she sits down, I'll play the album.
- 29:36Speaker 3: She's like, all right, I like this one. And she
- 29:39Speaker 3: gets up and she asked my engineer for his seat,
- 29:44Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.
- 29:45Speaker 2: And she works the pro tools and records herself.
- 29:49Speaker 1: She was engineering herself.
- 29:50Speaker 2: Bro, She's fucking incredible.
- 29:51Speaker 3: And then fast forward, I'm watching her gram and I'm
- 29:54Speaker 3: watching her make beats and record everything right there on
- 29:57Speaker 3: the ground. So she's another one of us. Sure, shout
- 30:00Speaker 3: out to Chloe.
- 30:01Speaker 1: I saw you working with Destroy Lonely on the new album. Yeah,
- 30:04Speaker 1: he's a he's a nice guy man. We did an interview.
- 30:07Speaker 2: I love him, man. I'll just ran into him last
- 30:08Speaker 2: night at the Cardi show.
- 30:09Speaker 1: Oh you went to the Cardis show?
- 30:10Speaker 2: It was crazy. Yeah.
- 30:11Speaker 1: Cardi's live shows.
- 30:13Speaker 2: Are fuck crazy.
- 30:15Speaker 3: I said, this man spent so much on them them
- 30:17Speaker 3: so Woofer's man, I couldn't fucking hear my thoughts.
- 30:21Speaker 1: You know what's crazy is I saw him when he
- 30:22Speaker 1: headline rolling a loud out here earlier this year. There's
- 30:25Speaker 1: just so much fire and like he had these like
- 30:28Speaker 1: he's got them like little white dudes on stage and
- 30:30Speaker 1: look malnourished, but they're fucking a vibe.
- 30:33Speaker 2: Yeah, vibe. This show it was like, yeah, it was
- 30:37Speaker 2: fun rock Hendrick out. Yeah, that was.
- 30:39Speaker 3: Crazy And that was the only thing you could see.
- 30:42Speaker 3: It's like everything else, it was like super fucking dark.
- 30:45Speaker 3: You just saw like Hella flashing and then Kendrick pops
- 30:48Speaker 3: out on the ship.
- 30:49Speaker 2: I was like, where the fuck is Cardy? I couldn't
- 30:51Speaker 2: see him.
- 30:52Speaker 1: Do you feel like I want to ask you this
- 30:54Speaker 1: because you are somebody?
- 30:55Speaker 2: But I like that though.
- 30:56Speaker 3: That was dope for the vibe, Like for just doing
- 30:58Speaker 3: something that no one else.
- 30:59Speaker 1: Is doing, do you feel like because you are? We
- 31:03Speaker 1: talked about it earlier. One of the guys who's been
- 31:04Speaker 1: holding the LA flag down for fucking since, you know,
- 31:09Speaker 1: fifteen years now. I felt like the Kendrick moment happens
- 31:13Speaker 1: with not like Us and obviously GNX and just that
- 31:16Speaker 1: whole from like that all the way up until the
- 31:18Speaker 1: super Bowl. Yeah, and you know, a lot of new
- 31:22Speaker 1: artists get a lot of opportunity on GNX from the City.
- 31:26Speaker 1: How do you feel like do you feel like LA
- 31:29Speaker 1: artists responded correctly when it came to kind of like
- 31:32Speaker 1: doing their part to keep the momentum going, kind of
- 31:37Speaker 1: take that torch from you know, because Kendrick kind of
- 31:39Speaker 1: set it all up.
- 31:39Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Now, everybody's doing this stuff.
- 31:45Speaker 3: Shout out to Kendrick first of all, or putting everybody
- 31:49Speaker 3: in position like he was supposed to. Like I said,
- 31:52Speaker 3: what good is the tree that's not bearing fruit? So
- 31:55Speaker 3: shout out to him for that. The album was Crazy,
- 31:57Speaker 3: his whole you know, he was on my first album Crazy.
- 32:01Speaker 3: He's always been with us, So shout out to Dot
- 32:04Speaker 3: and the whole team.
- 32:06Speaker 2: Uh.
- 32:07Speaker 3: As far as everybody else, Yeah, everybody's doing the thing
- 32:09Speaker 3: I'm seeing. Uh, everybody keep on dropping records.
- 32:12Speaker 2: That's all you could do.
- 32:13Speaker 3: Like to me, this music shit is down there like
- 32:15Speaker 3: Dice shooting Dice and ship.
- 32:17Speaker 2: You never know.
- 32:18Speaker 3: But as long as you keep on shooting, staying in
- 32:20Speaker 3: the game, one of the motherfucker's going to hit.
- 32:22Speaker 1: I damn. I feel like Shortline is kind of just
- 32:24Speaker 1: like really been going stupid Jesus bro Like, oh Jeezy
- 32:28Speaker 1: is Shoreline.
- 32:29Speaker 2: Yeah, they've had a year though. Yeah they keep dropping
- 32:34Speaker 2: after it.
- 32:34Speaker 1: Yeah, like they moved on from the out they got ship.
- 32:36Speaker 1: They ain't even on the album that they're like it's yeah,
- 32:39Speaker 1: it's it's special.
- 32:42Speaker 2: They got it. Yeah.
- 32:42Speaker 1: I think I think we got to like start having
- 32:44Speaker 1: a conversation about those guys in terms of just like
- 32:47Speaker 1: you want to talk about longevity too. They you know,
- 32:50Speaker 1: they're going on eight nine years since that Soundclass ship was.
- 32:52Speaker 3: Going on some ship. It's like, you see how everything
- 32:54Speaker 3: is set up. It's like certain people are gonna get
- 32:57Speaker 3: the full push and uh this some of us that
- 33:00Speaker 3: got to just work extra hard, you know, me being
- 33:03Speaker 3: one of them.
- 33:04Speaker 1: For sure, especially well they had to leave that building
- 33:08Speaker 1: to get the fool push to be fair, right, Yeah
- 33:11Speaker 1: are you still in that building? Yes you are.
- 33:13Speaker 2: I'm still in the building. Yeah. Uh I know how
- 33:16Speaker 2: to push myself.
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- 34:23Speaker 1: I think back to that Source magazine where it was you,
- 34:26Speaker 1: Mustard and YG on the cover, big moment. I'm sure
- 34:31Speaker 1: you guys have kicked around the idea of doing a
- 34:33Speaker 1: whole project together.
- 34:35Speaker 3: That's still my dream. I've been talking about that forever.
- 34:37Speaker 3: It's just like us all, you know, taking time off
- 34:42Speaker 3: and locking in certain times. We'll get a song off,
- 34:46Speaker 3: we'll get two days together. Da da lah, and you
- 34:49Speaker 3: know then must of to get a call to go
- 34:53Speaker 3: do what he did. I'll get a call to go
- 34:55Speaker 3: do what I did. You know, just it'll be on
- 34:57Speaker 3: what he's on. So we just need to lock in, man.
- 35:01Speaker 3: Right before Vultures, me and Mustard did a whole album together.
- 35:07Speaker 3: We didn't end up dropping it, but some of those
- 35:10Speaker 3: songs were on Vultures. Some of the Stars do It Nah,
- 35:17Speaker 3: we had did that recent We did that like during
- 35:20Speaker 3: the Vultures time, but Stars was.
- 35:22Speaker 2: On me and Muster's project. There's a couple others way.
- 35:25Speaker 1: This is just crazy that you're like, yeah, me and
- 35:27Speaker 1: Mustard did a whole album and y'all will only hear
- 35:29Speaker 1: like whatever's already.
- 35:30Speaker 3: But one of the songs, one of the songs is
- 35:32Speaker 3: on Tycoon Fire and anything that's fired. Man, I just
- 35:38Speaker 3: look at it like like I said, as Dice, you know,
- 35:39Speaker 3: you just gotta throw it at the right time, and
- 35:43Speaker 3: it's timing is everything for real.
- 35:44Speaker 1: When y'all got Nipsey's Verse on, do It, what was
- 35:47Speaker 1: that process?
- 35:48Speaker 3: Like that was from a song that me and Nipsey
- 35:51Speaker 3: had and basically I just took the vocal and added it.
- 35:56Speaker 2: To the new song. That shit came out crazy, Thank
- 35:59Speaker 2: you man, and.
- 36:00Speaker 3: Long lived Nip. We had to get that song out.
- 36:04Speaker 3: That was like originally a song me, Nip and Cardi B.
- 36:07Speaker 1: And a word.
- 36:09Speaker 3: Yeah, it was crazy, and uh, you know, I couldn't
- 36:13Speaker 3: just let it sit on the hard drive forever.
- 36:14Speaker 1: Why didn't that Why didn't it come out originally?
- 36:17Speaker 2: Who knows?
- 36:18Speaker 3: It's like Nip put out the project that he put
- 36:21Speaker 3: out last you know, Cardi B put out whatever she
- 36:24Speaker 3: put out.
- 36:24Speaker 2: I put out whatever I put out.
- 36:25Speaker 3: It's just like certain times that the song just needs
- 36:28Speaker 3: to find a home, and luckily we found a home
- 36:31Speaker 3: for it and it didn't just collect dust on the
- 36:35Speaker 3: hard drive.
- 36:36Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
- 36:37Speaker 1: I just saw you throw out the idea because one
- 36:39Speaker 1: of my favorite mixtapes you have is an Airplane Mode.
- 36:42Speaker 2: Yeah, such a good project, thank you brother.
- 36:45Speaker 1: But I just saw you. I don't know, I don't
- 36:47Speaker 1: know if you reposted something you were like airplane two,
- 36:49Speaker 1: Airplay Mode two.
- 36:50Speaker 3: Yeah, Airplay Mode two. I'm about to drop that right
- 36:52Speaker 3: after Tycoon.
- 36:53Speaker 1: So that's a thing.
- 36:55Speaker 2: It's like.
- 36:57Speaker 3: I've been on this streaming thing and I just playing
- 37:00Speaker 3: hell of songs and people go crazy for him.
- 37:04Speaker 2: I'm like, what the fuck am I doing? Bro?
- 37:06Speaker 3: I got Airplane Mode two, I got a new sign language.
- 37:11Speaker 2: I got an.
- 37:12Speaker 3: House that I'm working on. I got a Whoop too
- 37:15Speaker 3: with me and Joe Moses.
- 37:16Speaker 1: I think sign Language is my favorite state that you
- 37:19Speaker 1: ever put out.
- 37:19Speaker 2: Thank you, that's crazy. Most people will say Beach House.
- 37:22Speaker 1: I think a Sign Language was just crazy though. I
- 37:24Speaker 1: think that was when Big Sean was on right.
- 37:26Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah everybody, yeah, yeah.
- 37:29Speaker 1: But yo, how do you get that ship on DSPs?
- 37:32Speaker 1: Is it even possible? Because I saw like Cushion Orange
- 37:35Speaker 1: Juice ended up on DSPs, Like a lot of these
- 37:37Speaker 1: old mixtapes are starting to pop up. Rick Rick Ross
- 37:39Speaker 1: put out Rich Forever, Like.
- 37:41Speaker 2: I just got to give my team, right man, That's
- 37:42Speaker 2: all it is.
- 37:43Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you feel like if you ever could, could
- 37:46Speaker 1: you ever see yourself going independent now that you've kind
- 37:49Speaker 1: of figured out now?
- 37:50Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I definitely could. I got another album with Atlantic.
- 37:56Speaker 3: I'm excited about that. That's about to go crazy. There's
- 37:59Speaker 3: a whole new team at Atlantic.
- 38:01Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 38:01Speaker 3: I saw that, and uh, you know it's about to
- 38:04Speaker 3: go up. That's all I can say.
- 38:05Speaker 1: They've kind of resell the whole staff over there. Yeah
- 38:08Speaker 1: you think that's like a good thing.
- 38:10Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good thing. Bro.
- 38:11Speaker 3: It's all new young blood in there. It's all hungry people.
- 38:15Speaker 3: Because I still love my old team.
- 38:18Speaker 1: Somebody is your friend. Yeah, I'll be like, Yo, how
- 38:21Speaker 1: is it that fucking You've had so many records to
- 38:23Speaker 1: me that should have been.
- 38:24Speaker 2: Like yeah, And I'm like, what the fuck's.
- 38:26Speaker 1: Like Atlantic Records if it ain't already fucking like set
- 38:29Speaker 1: on fire in the fucking middle of the alley, like
- 38:32Speaker 1: and they could, they could come through a poor gas
- 38:34Speaker 1: on it.
- 38:34Speaker 3: It's like, you know, it's it's like it was a
- 38:37Speaker 3: sad day, like seeing the people that you work with forever.
- 38:41Speaker 1: Yeah, shout out to all the homies over there, like
- 38:43Speaker 1: you know, Dwight and a lot of a lot of
- 38:45Speaker 1: the homies who unfortunately lost you.
- 38:46Speaker 3: Know, Yeah, shout out to all of them. And I
- 38:48Speaker 3: love you guys. But it's just like how business works
- 38:52Speaker 3: and how life works. You know, when the news shit comes,
- 38:55Speaker 3: are you going to just keep on being sad and
- 38:57Speaker 3: ship or are you going to adapt?
- 38:58Speaker 1: You got to adapt.
- 39:00Speaker 2: We gotta adapt.
- 39:01Speaker 3: We got to accept the new and we got to
- 39:03Speaker 3: pick up the new people, you know, like I said,
- 39:06Speaker 3: a new team, young, hungry, and uh, it's about to
- 39:11Speaker 3: go up.
- 39:12Speaker 1: What is uh the one record of yours that ended up?
- 39:15Speaker 1: It could be a hook you did. It could be
- 39:17Speaker 1: one of your own records that you just hated but
- 39:20Speaker 1: it just cracked.
- 39:22Speaker 3: Uh two didn't put it. When I first did it,
- 39:24Speaker 3: I thought it was like what the fuck? But that
- 39:27Speaker 3: happened to be the first record that put me.
- 39:29Speaker 1: On, changed changed all y'all's lives.
- 39:31Speaker 2: Yeah, for real.
- 39:32Speaker 3: For Hot Girl Summer is kind of like, uh, you
- 39:39Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like it was one of those
- 39:40Speaker 3: like what the fuck that ship went dummy?
- 39:43Speaker 1: Oh it went dummy? It did for that year. Oh yeah,
- 39:46Speaker 1: God the fact that I don't think we're ever getting
- 39:49Speaker 1: here Megan Nikki on a record together again. So and
- 39:53Speaker 1: it was a moment because I mean that was like
- 39:55Speaker 1: Hot Girl Summer.
- 39:55Speaker 2: Was a thing, yeah for sure.
- 39:57Speaker 1: Yeah, but you didn't love it, nah, not for real
- 40:01Speaker 1: like when you cut it.
- 40:02Speaker 3: Nah, And I don't like love it to this day
- 40:04Speaker 3: like that, But like there's people that love it, and
- 40:07Speaker 3: I'll performance for the ladies for sure.
- 40:09Speaker 1: You know one do you still like because I do
- 40:14Speaker 1: feel like there's like an era of your career where
- 40:17Speaker 1: you were just like kind of giving out so many
- 40:18Speaker 1: big records. Yeah, what's that? What's that like thought process
- 40:23Speaker 1: like for you now where you really don't need like
- 40:25Speaker 1: you are you being a lot more selfish with with
- 40:27Speaker 1: with joints? Are you still collaborating?
- 40:29Speaker 3: Like I just love making music, so you know, I'm
- 40:33Speaker 3: down to still collaborate, but I'm not gonna lie.
- 40:36Speaker 2: Man.
- 40:36Speaker 3: After this album, after folds, it's like I'm starting to
- 40:40Speaker 3: hate collaborating. Yeah, you know what I mean, I'm starting
- 40:43Speaker 3: to fucking hate it cause it's like shit just gets
- 40:47Speaker 3: weird for sure.
- 40:49Speaker 1: Yeah, it's almost like when there's so many moving parts,
- 40:51Speaker 1: so it's like you can have a relationship with somebody,
- 40:54Speaker 1: but then there's the label.
- 40:55Speaker 3: The teams do all of this shit myself, man, Like
- 40:58Speaker 3: I really don't need nobody.
- 41:00Speaker 2: I never did, so let's not get that fucked up
- 41:03Speaker 2: for sure.
- 41:04Speaker 1: Yeah. The last time we did an interview, I was like, yeah,
- 41:07Speaker 1: I would love to see you work with the Alchemist.
- 41:09Speaker 1: You ended up being on the Alchemist Larry June album.
- 41:12Speaker 3: But that's a lie because like I said earlier, this
- 41:15Speaker 3: whole music, it's like a band. It's like it's a team.
- 41:17Speaker 3: It's always a team, you know. So in general, Yeah,
- 41:22Speaker 3: but I can't do everything myself. I do know how
- 41:24Speaker 3: to do everybody's job.
- 41:27Speaker 1: But you was I was saying, you ended up working
- 41:29Speaker 1: with Alchemists.
- 41:30Speaker 3: Oh yeah, And I just ran into Alchemists at him
- 41:34Speaker 3: and Hip Boys party up in New York. And I've
- 41:36Speaker 3: been telling Alchemists I want to do a whole project
- 41:38Speaker 3: with him and like really like tap into that sound
- 41:41Speaker 3: that was like my original tian Corey sound. Right, That's
- 41:45Speaker 3: where I come from. And I feel like me and
- 41:48Speaker 3: Alchemists make a whole project. It'll be crazy. I also
- 41:50Speaker 3: want to make more of a mad live. We'll see
- 41:53Speaker 3: what happens, man.
- 41:54Speaker 1: But don't you and Freddie got a lot of unreleased
- 41:57Speaker 1: stuff from the Vultures era.
- 41:58Speaker 3: Yeah, we got we got crazy shit, and then after
- 42:01Speaker 3: the Vultures there we got in the studio and we
- 42:04Speaker 3: made some crazy shit as well.
- 42:05Speaker 1: So I feel like you and Freddy could do a
- 42:08Speaker 1: little pack, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, it's still
- 42:12Speaker 1: one of my favorite verses in the last few years.
- 42:14Speaker 1: The shit he had that was I think that was
- 42:16Speaker 1: the whole Colders versus the.
- 42:17Speaker 2: Year come to easy Money, Freddie, Let's go, Hey, even
- 42:21Speaker 2: a one off? Yeah, let's go?
- 42:23Speaker 1: Why not? Hey, we gotta wrap up this interview another
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- 43:12Speaker 1: is it gonna take for you to be like we
- 43:15Speaker 1: gotta start adding to this roster for easy money?
- 43:18Speaker 2: Is it like you know we just signed for artists?
- 43:20Speaker 2: Damn Uh.
- 43:21Speaker 3: This dude named r J the Widows Crazy Stage from Texas.
- 43:27Speaker 3: He's like this rapper but he also dances and he
- 43:30Speaker 3: just got bangers. He got crazy bars. Keith Turner, He's
- 43:34Speaker 3: a DJ, makes beats and all that shit. He's hard.
- 43:39Speaker 3: Wm on leaving out.
- 43:41Speaker 1: You said four, there's three. You're just letting name.
- 43:43Speaker 3: Uh oh, what the fuck? Busy Busy Crook from my Miami.
- 43:50Speaker 3: That Nigga's incredible aunt.
- 43:52Speaker 2: He's been around. He helped Leon ride on Mutt and Uh.
- 43:56Speaker 3: He's just incredible with the songwriting and his songs and
- 44:00Speaker 3: I believe in him.
- 44:01Speaker 1: He did a record like, uh probably twenty fourteen. There's
- 44:05Speaker 1: like a letter to Kanye for real. Yeah, it was tight.
- 44:07Speaker 1: It was like blog air ended the blog aeric.
- 44:09Speaker 2: Kind of, but it was I never even heard that
- 44:12Speaker 2: joint you.
- 44:12Speaker 1: Like kind of. It was like a dedication song to
- 44:14Speaker 1: Kanye kind from what I recall, Busy's busy's been tough though,
- 44:17Speaker 1: for sure.
- 44:18Speaker 2: Hell yeah, hell yeah.
- 44:19Speaker 1: So yeah, so you're gonna be busy. So I guess
- 44:21Speaker 1: you're going to be busy. I mean, like, how do
- 44:23Speaker 1: you fucking like compartmentalize, man, when it comes to like
- 44:28Speaker 1: doing the CEO shit.
- 44:29Speaker 3: Well, when it comes to the artists, first of all,
- 44:32Speaker 3: I'm not really fucking with nobody like you, Like you
- 44:35Speaker 3: uh brought up the fact that I had all these
- 44:37Speaker 3: other different situations, my other labels, my other you know, adventures,
- 44:43Speaker 3: So I've gone through a lot of child and error.
- 44:46Speaker 3: And when it comes to that, I'm only fucking with
- 44:48Speaker 3: easy lifters, meaning like people that got this ship.
- 44:52Speaker 2: Together kind of like self managed. Yeahbyit exactly. So that's
- 44:56Speaker 2: how I compartmentalized the record company shit. And then and
- 45:00Speaker 2: I do my artistry shit. Every day.
- 45:02Speaker 3: I try to get at least for three to four
- 45:05Speaker 3: songs a day on a bad day, seven to nine
- 45:09Speaker 3: to eleven on a good day. When I just did
- 45:11Speaker 3: this airplane mode too, I did it all in one day,
- 45:14Speaker 3: eleven songs, and I added like the other a few
- 45:18Speaker 3: songs the next day.
- 45:19Speaker 1: So you'll go in general, your general rule is three
- 45:22Speaker 1: to four songs a day you're making.
- 45:23Speaker 3: Yeah, that's like how I treated as a job, you
- 45:26Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. And that could be feature, it
- 45:30Speaker 3: could be my own song, but I'm at least gonna
- 45:32Speaker 3: get four in. And then now I've been back on
- 45:34Speaker 3: the beats. I wasn't making beats for a long time.
- 45:38Speaker 3: I was talking about this earlier on Power Basically when
- 45:43Speaker 3: Chakaso got killed, I feel like that fucked me up,
- 45:47Speaker 3: and probably my way of grieving was I didn't touch
- 45:51Speaker 3: the NPC no more, where I used to just do
- 45:54Speaker 3: fifteen beats a day, you know what I mean. And
- 45:57Speaker 3: then now YG came to me like right before I
- 46:01Speaker 3: did this Hollywood joint and it was like, I want
- 46:03Speaker 3: you to produce my album, bro, Like I already.
- 46:05Speaker 2: Know you're gonna kill it.
- 46:06Speaker 3: So that's when I just started going in and trying
- 46:10Speaker 3: to find something that everybody wasn't doing, and we'll work
- 46:13Speaker 3: for the West right now, and like, how can we
- 46:15Speaker 3: make this shit fun again? And I came up with
- 46:18Speaker 3: that beat for Hollywood, and I've been cooking some other
- 46:21Speaker 3: shit for his album, so we bot.
- 46:23Speaker 1: I didn't even know you did that beat. Yeah, Bro,
- 46:25Speaker 1: the son is crazy?
- 46:26Speaker 2: Oh yeah. And Homie damn. James added to it as well,
- 46:29Speaker 2: So shout out to.
- 46:29Speaker 1: Him when you hear that hook on there when you
- 46:32Speaker 1: first hear it, drink.
- 46:34Speaker 3: So look, man, when I first made the beat, even
- 46:37Speaker 3: before James added to it, the vocal part that I
- 46:41Speaker 3: kept on hearing in my head was like some wrapping
- 46:44Speaker 3: fote oh type flow.
- 46:46Speaker 1: I can hear that.
- 46:47Speaker 2: So I'm like, who sounds like that? Today? Oh?
- 46:50Speaker 3: Geez called him to the studio and was like, Yo,
- 46:53Speaker 3: let's do this for YG. So he did his part.
- 46:56Speaker 3: Then I called YG. YG did his part. Next thing
- 46:59Speaker 3: you know I'm getting. I was like, oh, Shoreline trying
- 47:02Speaker 3: to put this out on their album and they're performing
- 47:04Speaker 3: at Coachella.
- 47:04Speaker 2: This is gonna be perfect. And I'll tell y G.
- 47:07Speaker 3: He's like, nigga fuck no, oh no you So shout
- 47:14Speaker 3: out to a Shoreline and uh and YG man, we
- 47:17Speaker 3: made that ship happen.
- 47:18Speaker 2: The city loved it. TikTok loved it. It's still going.
- 47:22Speaker 1: You know who I would love to hear you do
- 47:24Speaker 1: like a something like a body of work with is
- 47:27Speaker 1: Quick Man.
- 47:29Speaker 3: I've been wanting to work with Quick forever. We have worked,
- 47:32Speaker 3: but like we ain't really like two weeks. Yeah, man
- 47:39Speaker 3: like me and him would make these the album.
- 47:42Speaker 1: Because I feel like he's one of them guys Too's
- 47:45Speaker 1: like just an alien like Jesus.
- 47:48Speaker 3: Me and Problem been tapped in more recently shots in
- 47:52Speaker 3: Hell and Ship, and he's always been the one to
- 47:54Speaker 3: connect me with quick So hopefully it happens one day.
- 47:58Speaker 1: It's kind of dope just to see kind of like
- 47:59Speaker 1: that whole era of l A like mature, Yeah, because
- 48:03Speaker 1: you know the Problem was going crazy, Well y'all were
- 48:05Speaker 1: going crazy.
- 48:06Speaker 3: And now to see like all with me a problem
- 48:09Speaker 3: go way back before that, Like the Problem used to
- 48:12Speaker 3: be at my grandma's house before I always even tie
- 48:15Speaker 3: dollars type shit like crazy.
- 48:18Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like to see him kind of be like this,
- 48:20Speaker 1: like you know, like the og, the young Og for everybody. Sure,
- 48:24Speaker 1: it's been. It's been incredible to see man. All right,
- 48:27Speaker 1: So Tycoon's out, and then, uh, are you gonna Are
- 48:31Speaker 1: you guys gonna do any like special vinyl or anything
- 48:33Speaker 1: for the ten year anniversary of Free TC or any.
- 48:35Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna do special vinyl for that. We're gonna
- 48:37Speaker 3: do a vinyl for Tycoon.
- 48:39Speaker 1: Bro, you should do a fucking show at the Roxy
- 48:42Speaker 1: five hundred people only where you just perform free TC.
- 48:46Speaker 2: Someone else said this, and then I've heard Blue Note
- 48:49Speaker 2: or it would be this ship.
- 48:51Speaker 1: Yeah, they got the new Blue Note. You get the
- 48:53Speaker 1: band in there, Yeah, and you just do the debut album.
- 48:57Speaker 2: Let's do it.
- 48:58Speaker 1: That shit would be kind of tough.
- 49:00Speaker 2: Come on, bro, I gotta put the band back together.
- 49:02Speaker 2: Jesus people.
- 49:03Speaker 1: Yeah, and so you have a lot more production coming
- 49:06Speaker 1: on the YG album.
- 49:07Speaker 2: Yeah, I got more production coming. Oh my god, wait
- 49:10Speaker 2: to hear this next year. We're finish drop.
- 49:15Speaker 1: I'm waiting for his album.
- 49:16Speaker 3: That's my evil left Hey man, this new YG ship
- 49:20Speaker 3: that we got crazy, he owned one, he owned one.
- 49:25Speaker 1: He wanted I love ready, Well listen, go support. The
- 49:29Speaker 1: new album is officially out. If you're watching this, it's out.
- 49:31Speaker 1: If you're listening. Ty Original Tycoon, The Boss Tycoon.
- 49:38Speaker 2: The Boss Tycoon.
- 49:41Speaker 1: I feel like forty what album? Did E forty just
- 49:43Speaker 1: do a bunch of skits on? He like hosted an
- 49:46Speaker 1: La artist album recently?
- 49:47Speaker 2: Did he?
- 49:48Speaker 1: I forget who it was?
- 49:49Speaker 2: He man, no bad pouse.
- 49:53Speaker 1: Oh it was the pop out. I'm thinking it was
- 49:55Speaker 1: the pop out, the pop out, the pop out.
- 49:59Speaker 2: I was telling him I wanted that for this album
- 50:00Speaker 2: from him, just because it knows it might come tonight.
- 50:04Speaker 1: You got twenty four hours. I mean you know, look,
- 50:06Speaker 1: you're no stranger for.
- 50:08Speaker 3: Actually dropped this, drop this clip. You got twenty four
- 50:11Speaker 3: hours for ya. I need you, man, We need you
- 50:13Speaker 3: on this album.
- 50:14Speaker 1: Twenty four hours. We need to get the E forty in.
- 50:16Speaker 1: We're gonna clip it out, we're gonna put it out immediately,
- 50:18Speaker 1: and we're gonna text it to him directly exactly. Let's
- 50:21Speaker 1: do it, all right, tied all the signed ty Koo
- 50:23Speaker 1: go support it man.
- 50:25Speaker 2: Appreciate you, brother, Appreciate you bro. Thanks for serving this