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- 0:48Speaker 1: Enjoy your exploration. Hello and good morning everybody.
- 0:52Speaker 2: Hi, good money.
- 0:53Speaker 1: How are you doing?
- 0:55Speaker 2: I'm amazing?
- 0:56Speaker 1: How are you? Oh wait a second, that's my favorite
- 0:58Speaker 1: word in the whole book. Man. If you say amazing,
- 1:01Speaker 1: that means you actually live that lifestyle.
- 1:04Speaker 2: I you know, I think I do, I think I do.
- 1:07Speaker 1: Where did you pick up on that amazing? Because I
- 1:10Speaker 1: used to have a martial art instructor that used to
- 1:12Speaker 1: tell me all the time. We'd always say, yeah, we're
- 1:14Speaker 1: doing good, just good, really just good. Okay, we're doing fine,
- 1:18Speaker 1: really fine. He says, what would it take to get
- 1:21Speaker 1: you to amazing? And then we would sit there and
- 1:22Speaker 1: look at him and he go about that much more
- 1:25Speaker 1: and you'll be amazing. And so when I hear you
- 1:27Speaker 1: do it, I'm going she did that much more and
- 1:30Speaker 1: she is amazing.
- 1:33Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I love that. Yeah, that is really
- 1:35Speaker 2: how I want to live my life, like, I just
- 1:37Speaker 2: want to be happy. That's really the goal.
- 1:40Speaker 1: Right, Well, you're bringing people closer together with this book.
- 1:43Speaker 1: Oh my god. If this doesn't speak this street, how
- 1:46Speaker 1: did you get the courage to do that?
- 1:49Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Yeah, I'm not gonna lie. I'm totally
- 1:53Speaker 2: in this moment where I'm like, holy moly, the book
- 1:56Speaker 2: is out, people are reading this, what's gonna happen? It
- 2:00Speaker 2: looked really scary. Honestly, it was really scary, but also
- 2:04Speaker 2: really exciting because I do know it's going to be
- 2:08Speaker 2: life changing. But yeah, it's definitely not easy putting yourself
- 2:12Speaker 2: out in the world like that either.
- 2:14Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, because we've entered this stage. I know that
- 2:18Speaker 1: way back in because I've been married for thirty two years.
- 2:20Speaker 1: The thing is is that way back in those days,
- 2:23Speaker 1: we didn't have the internet, we didn't have apps, We
- 2:25Speaker 1: had to actually do the physical work to get into
- 2:28Speaker 1: a relationship. And you're really kind of opening up that
- 2:31Speaker 1: door when it comes to the framework and agility of
- 2:33Speaker 1: what the dating market is presently, Like.
- 2:37Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I would say it's kind of a mess
- 2:40Speaker 2: right now with a lot of people.
- 2:43Speaker 1: Wow, is that the reason why people are choosing to
- 2:46Speaker 1: have groups of friends rather than having a relationship then?
- 2:49Speaker 1: Because it is so tough, I would say so.
- 2:52Speaker 2: And I think a lot of people are choosing to
- 2:54Speaker 2: not even date anymore. I think that, you know, we're
- 2:57Speaker 2: just seeing like a really big culmination of exactly about
- 3:01Speaker 2: like there's so many options, so many ops. And I
- 3:04Speaker 2: think that a lot of people have a lot of
- 3:07Speaker 2: unprocessed trauma. And I think that we're starting to realize
- 3:10Speaker 2: that and we're starting to recognize like, hey, wow, it
- 3:13Speaker 2: is not got easy to build a relationship with somebody else.
- 3:16Speaker 2: But then we see people like yourself who have done
- 3:20Speaker 2: thirty years like that's amazing, right, Like that truly is incredible.
- 3:24Speaker 2: So that's something that our generation is missing for sure.
- 3:27Speaker 1: Well, I think it all starts with and I'm such
- 3:29Speaker 1: a freak on this is that when when I see
- 3:31Speaker 1: people in public holding on too hands, I as loud
- 3:33Speaker 1: as I can to get everybody's attention. I'll go, that's
- 3:36Speaker 1: why people stay married thirty plus years. They're holding onto
- 3:39Speaker 1: hands and they're not afraid to do it in public.
- 3:41Speaker 1: And what it is, it's something so freaking simple, and
- 3:45Speaker 1: they're thinking that that's how you get to thirty two years. Yeah,
- 3:48Speaker 1: because it's a relationship. It's talking, it's sharing, it's laughing,
- 3:51Speaker 1: it's disagreeing, and you're giving us an eye opening experience
- 3:55Speaker 1: inside your book saying hey, look it doesn't have to
- 3:58Speaker 1: be what you think it is. Because three percent of
- 4:00Speaker 1: the people say, I don't believe in this anymore. I
- 4:02Speaker 1: got burnout. Well let's change it. Then, let's work and
- 4:05Speaker 1: get these people growing forward. And it's taking you to
- 4:08Speaker 1: open that door exactly one hundred percent.
- 4:11Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think what's really happening too is we
- 4:13Speaker 2: need to have a lot of compassion. Like everyone is
- 4:16Speaker 2: so scared of being hurt, but the second that they
- 4:19Speaker 2: see one there's one little disagreement, one thing like you
- 4:22Speaker 2: just mentioned, you know, there's there's gonna be conversations, there's
- 4:26Speaker 2: got to be disagreements, there's going to be deep, real intimacy.
- 4:29Speaker 2: People see one little thing and instantly it's like oh
- 4:32Speaker 2: my flags throw them out the door, and it's like
- 4:34Speaker 2: whoa hold happen? Like we're all human beings. There's someone
- 4:38Speaker 2: for each and every single one of us. We all
- 4:40Speaker 2: need to actually learn to love each other.
- 4:43Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and just turn it into a song like
- 4:45Speaker 1: Sea and Taylor Swift, They'll turn it into a song.
- 4:47Speaker 1: If I have a bad relationship, turn it into a song.
- 4:50Speaker 2: Oh oh my gosh. Yeah, I mean, and this is
- 4:52Speaker 2: the issue, right, I think that we're all just conditioned
- 4:54Speaker 2: to uh from childhood with the new the heart break news,
- 5:00Speaker 2: and you know, my thirteen year old stepdaughter brings up
- 5:05Speaker 2: like songs where I'm cheating and I'm like, oh my goodness,
- 5:08Speaker 2: Like we are not listening to the radio. This is insane.
- 5:11Speaker 2: Like there's just so much in the air and so
- 5:14Speaker 2: much out there that I think has everyone just so
- 5:17Speaker 2: scared to open their hearts fully and love and be loved.
- 5:22Speaker 1: So now, do you actually believe that that that love
- 5:25Speaker 1: is not earned? Is is it something you grow into?
- 5:28Speaker 1: Is it something that you you shape, I mean, what
- 5:31Speaker 1: is what is your belief inside your heart?
- 5:35Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely think that, you know, I think that
- 5:39Speaker 2: we are each time we've seen on one of us
- 5:41Speaker 2: like really the embodiment of love, Like we are love
- 5:45Speaker 2: and we are here to love. And I don't actually
- 5:48Speaker 2: think that we're supposed to withhold any of that. I
- 5:51Speaker 2: tell my clients all the time, like, when you're in
- 5:53Speaker 2: love with someone, yes, of course you can feel their
- 5:55Speaker 2: feelings of love, but more than anything, you are feeling
- 5:58Speaker 2: your own feeling of love towards this person, Right, So
- 6:03Speaker 2: that experience of being in love when we hold ourselves back,
- 6:06Speaker 2: when we, you know, have these crazy high standards that
- 6:11Speaker 2: no one can reach, which is really just this like
- 6:13Speaker 2: really sneaky protection mechanism to not be hurt. But when
- 6:16Speaker 2: we do all of these games and we do all
- 6:18Speaker 2: of these things, what we're really doing is just preventing
- 6:20Speaker 2: ourselves from feeling that really deep love that's already present
- 6:24Speaker 2: ourselves that wants to be expressed. Right. So, yeah, I
- 6:29Speaker 2: think that there's work involved in creating a really beautiful relationship,
- 6:32Speaker 2: but I don't think that there's any work for any
- 6:34Speaker 2: of us to just love freely and love openly, and
- 6:39Speaker 2: then it's up to us to create the proper parameters
- 6:41Speaker 2: for a proper relationship that right, like that, standards, the boundaries,
- 6:45Speaker 2: things like that. But most people aren't even willing to
- 6:48Speaker 2: just open our heart to love.
- 6:51Speaker 1: Well, am I be in a real butt head when
- 6:52Speaker 1: people say, oh, man, I broke up. Good, that's fine,
- 6:55Speaker 1: find out find out what your borderlines are right now,
- 6:58Speaker 1: and when you get back together, which you will, then
- 7:00Speaker 1: you're gonna look at that borderline that you just created
- 7:02Speaker 1: and you say, we're not going there. But but yeah,
- 7:04Speaker 1: if you if you know, ah, we broke up, Okay, good,
- 7:06Speaker 1: I'm glad. Okay, now let's grow now, Okay that you
- 7:09Speaker 1: just learned what what what?
- 7:10Speaker 2: You know?
- 7:10Speaker 1: What is right? What is wrong? Now? Grow?
- 7:14Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, but you know right though that I think
- 7:16Speaker 2: that that's such a beautiful perspective, But most people don't
- 7:20Speaker 2: have that. Right the second that they get hurt, they
- 7:22Speaker 2: go through that breakup boom, yeah, shut down, they don't
- 7:25Speaker 2: want to do it anymore, right. Yeah.
- 7:27Speaker 1: I blame that on rom comms, I really do. Because
- 7:30Speaker 1: everybody thinks that there's gonna be a happy song somewhere
- 7:32Speaker 1: in the middle of the breakup and then they're all
- 7:34Speaker 1: going to get back together again and say, quit waiting
- 7:36Speaker 1: for the movie make your own story.
- 7:38Speaker 2: Totally. I love that, Yeah, totally. Yeah. And I talked
- 7:41Speaker 2: about online, like my relationship, we had to go through
- 7:44Speaker 2: uh some separations in order to really grow as individuals
- 7:48Speaker 2: and really figure out who we were. And I think
- 7:50Speaker 2: that that's really what made our love so strong, was
- 7:53Speaker 2: the fact that we consistently just keep choosing each other
- 7:56Speaker 2: even when it can be challenging at times, because you know,
- 7:59Speaker 2: we're all so in We've had so many different backgrounds
- 8:02Speaker 2: and lifestyles and beliefs and all the things. It's not.
- 8:06Speaker 2: I don't want to say that it has to be hard,
- 8:08Speaker 2: but like it's not, it does require a willingness to grow.
- 8:12Speaker 1: Like you said, yeah, please do not move. We've got
- 8:15Speaker 1: more with Kelsey Goodrow coming up next the name of
- 8:20Speaker 1: her book, Chasing Two Chosen. We are back with Love
- 8:25Speaker 1: Expert Kelsey Goudreau. You bring up something I've never heard
- 8:29Speaker 1: of before, but I really want people to dig deep
- 8:32Speaker 1: into it because you're You're confident enough, and you're also
- 8:35Speaker 1: very transparent. When it comes to the black cat backlash.
- 8:39Speaker 1: I never heard of it, but boy, it is an
- 8:42Speaker 1: eye opener.
- 8:45Speaker 2: Yeah, that whole It's funny because in the book we
- 8:48Speaker 2: have to really reference that it's like a social media trend,
- 8:51Speaker 2: right because obviously if someone reads this book fifty years
- 8:54Speaker 2: from now, they're going to be like, what the heck,
- 8:55Speaker 2: what's a black fuck? But it's just like it's so
- 9:00Speaker 2: so wounded for anyone's listening. It's so wounded. Right. It's
- 9:03Speaker 2: like women are so scared of just loving so openly
- 9:08Speaker 2: that they've decided that they want to be this black
- 9:10Speaker 2: cat and they want to play this game to pretend
- 9:14Speaker 2: that they're really cold and they don't care that they
- 9:16Speaker 2: can they can have like create this golden retriever boyfriend.
- 9:20Speaker 2: That's the whole dynamic, right, And that's so crazy to me, Like,
- 9:25Speaker 2: first of all, why are we a lay behind ourselves
- 9:27Speaker 2: like your man as a golden retriever. And now there's
- 9:30Speaker 2: a whole thing. I'm an orange cat, not a black cat,
- 9:32Speaker 2: or my men's a Golberman, not in cold. And it's like,
- 9:35Speaker 2: oh my goodnes's okay. But it's really just it's wounds,
- 9:39Speaker 2: and it's games and it's strategies. It's all these like
- 9:43Speaker 2: subtle strategies to try to feel safe because if your
- 9:47Speaker 2: man is like a quote unquote golden retriever, she doesn't
- 9:50Speaker 2: have to worry, right because he's like a puppy dog
- 9:52Speaker 2: following her around and she can feel safe in that.
- 9:54Speaker 2: That's not love. Like, those are games, And what people
- 9:57Speaker 2: don't realize is that if you're playing and you'se egoic
- 10:00Speaker 2: to get love, well, it's gonna be some sort of
- 10:03Speaker 2: weird surface level. It's not love, right, it's ego it's games.
- 10:09Speaker 2: It maybe gives us cool illusion, yeah, that you have
- 10:12Speaker 2: a man who's chasing you, But that's what the intimacy
- 10:16Speaker 2: that you and your wife have after thirty two years, right, Like,
- 10:19Speaker 2: that's not what that creates.
- 10:21Speaker 1: No, you get inventive. I mean it's like today we've
- 10:24Speaker 1: got a date night or our date day is what
- 10:26Speaker 1: we're gonna have. So we're gonna you know, movie theaters
- 10:28Speaker 1: nowadays have a restaurants and stuff in them, So we're
- 10:31Speaker 1: gonna go and get food at the restaurant and go
- 10:32Speaker 1: watch the movie. Michael, and we're old people and we
- 10:35Speaker 1: still take freaking dates. Man.
- 10:38Speaker 2: I love that. Yeah, I love that. She's a lucky lady.
- 10:41Speaker 2: Like that's the way I'm not. We're all just so simple, right,
- 10:44Speaker 2: we just want, yeah, like to be loved out, loud,
- 10:47Speaker 2: held hands, go on dates, listen to each other, support
- 10:51Speaker 2: each other. It's really not hard when you think about it.
- 10:53Speaker 1: No, but you you bring up something here that God,
- 10:56Speaker 1: my heart like stopped when I when I read about it,
- 10:59Speaker 1: the mere pattern, because it's like, okay, okay, we all
- 11:03Speaker 1: know of it, but we don't speak of it. Oh
- 11:05Speaker 1: but here comes Kelsey, she's got we're going to talk
- 11:09Speaker 1: about it, and all of a sudden, now it's out there.
- 11:12Speaker 2: M Yeah, yeah. I do a lot of the work
- 11:16Speaker 2: on like the mirroring and the patterns and what we see.
- 11:19Speaker 2: But it's pretty like, you know, if we say, I
- 11:22Speaker 2: think that our world is really ready, like even just
- 11:25Speaker 2: the kids. We're talking about gas arting and psychology and
- 11:28Speaker 2: all these different things, but I feel like we're ready.
- 11:29Speaker 2: But relationships really are just here to mirror what's going
- 11:33Speaker 2: on internally, and a lot of what we're perceiving is
- 11:36Speaker 2: really just projection, right, And a lot of our relationship
- 11:41Speaker 2: like that in my book and in my world, the
- 11:44Speaker 2: masculine energy which we all have is really responding to
- 11:47Speaker 2: the feminine. So our relationship really mirrors where we're meant
- 11:52Speaker 2: to grow. And even Carl Young talks about this, like
- 11:54Speaker 2: the whole goal of a relationship is to make the
- 11:56Speaker 2: unconscious conscious. So everything that's not seen become seen. Right,
- 12:01Speaker 2: Like you're you're with your partner and you're grumpy after
- 12:04Speaker 2: a day of work. Well, your partner's gonna they're gonna
- 12:07Speaker 2: tell you, they're gonna bring it up, They're gonna mirror
- 12:09Speaker 2: it back to you, and you go, you're gonna go, oh, yeah, shoot,
- 12:11Speaker 2: I am kind of a jerk when I found a
- 12:14Speaker 2: really long day at work. Why do I do that? Right?
- 12:17Speaker 2: So it's kind of beautiful, Like again, if we can
- 12:20Speaker 2: look at things just through this and you said it
- 12:22Speaker 2: this gross like this growth mindset relationships out a place
- 12:26Speaker 2: where we can grow the most.
- 12:28Speaker 1: So are you like me being an outsider? You do.
- 12:31Speaker 1: You'll kind of set things up almost like an instigator
- 12:34Speaker 1: or an enabler in the way of you'll ask a
- 12:36Speaker 1: question just to test how how deep the relationship is.
- 12:40Speaker 1: Because I'll be because I work at a grocery store
- 12:43Speaker 1: and we have these these fuel prices and stuff, and
- 12:45Speaker 1: I'll sit there and say, wow, with your current fuel
- 12:47Speaker 1: price points, here you have thirty five gallons at a
- 12:51Speaker 1: dollar off. I said, the two of you can go
- 12:52Speaker 1: and share the gas. And when they tell me, oh,
- 12:55Speaker 1: I'll take my car, I'm going you ain't working. This
- 12:57Speaker 1: is over. You should be sharing that gasoline. In this
- 13:00Speaker 1: day of four dollars a gallon and more, you got
- 13:02Speaker 1: to be sharing that gasoline. Man, Now I see a relationship.
- 13:06Speaker 1: Do you play games like that too to measure the depth?
- 13:09Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. My whole thing is not playing games.
- 13:12Speaker 2: I don't know that I play games, but I think
- 13:13Speaker 2: that I naturally am a disruptor. Naturally. Yeah, I tell
- 13:18Speaker 2: you out to try. Like, people come into my road
- 13:21Speaker 2: and it's funny, like I'll go, I'll meet couples and
- 13:23Speaker 2: then next thing, you know, they're telling me these deep
- 13:26Speaker 2: secrets and all these things. I'm like, oh my goodness,
- 13:30Speaker 2: I can't help it though, it just happens naturally.
- 13:33Speaker 1: How do you feel about overgiving? Oh my god, somebody's
- 13:38Speaker 1: always got to be the overgiver.
- 13:40Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's really like it's I do have
- 13:43Speaker 2: a whole chapter about that in my book. And it's
- 13:45Speaker 2: really it's tough because you know, I remember a client
- 13:49Speaker 2: once was like, well, I do this and then I
- 13:51Speaker 2: do the dishes and all these things. I'm like, why
- 13:54Speaker 2: can't they just do that for me? And I stopped
- 13:56Speaker 2: and I was like, whoa hold on, are we doing
- 13:59Speaker 2: all those things? We want to do all those things?
- 14:01Speaker 2: Or are you doing all those things because you want
- 14:04Speaker 2: them to do it too? And instantly I saw like
- 14:07Speaker 2: the light bulb moment and it was like, oh, I'm
- 14:10Speaker 2: doing that so that I can be loved in that
- 14:13Speaker 2: way as well, So you right right, yeah, yeah, And
- 14:20Speaker 2: it's really hard to recognize that because then we realize,
- 14:22Speaker 2: oh my goodness, all that giving that I'm putting out
- 14:26Speaker 2: I'm trying to get, trying to get something is a
- 14:28Speaker 2: really distorted energy, right, And it's like I don't like
- 14:33Speaker 2: the word people that like this word, but it is
- 14:35Speaker 2: kind of a manipulation. It's like, if I love you
- 14:38Speaker 2: so much, then you're going to love me too. No, no, no,
- 14:41Speaker 2: why don't you take all that love that you were
- 14:42Speaker 2: trying to throw out there to try to somehow get
- 14:46Speaker 2: them to love you back, love yourself, pouring to yourself,
- 14:49Speaker 2: and let the right people come and love you. Because
- 14:52Speaker 2: when you're overgiving, you're depleted, you're resentful, you're bitter, you're angry,
- 14:56Speaker 2: you're all these things. We need to break that pattern.
- 15:00Speaker 2: Take all that love, pour it into yourself, take a
- 15:02Speaker 2: bas take care of yourself, go to the gym right like,
- 15:05Speaker 2: stop over extending yourself trying to get some sort of
- 15:08Speaker 2: love outside of yourself, and trust that you're already full
- 15:12Speaker 2: of love because now you're finally pouring it back into yourself.
- 15:15Speaker 2: And the right person who's going to want to love you,
- 15:18Speaker 2: Not because you did all these crazy things for them
- 15:20Speaker 2: at drill forty five minutes and picked up their laundry
- 15:23Speaker 2: and whatever. No, they're going to love you because they
- 15:25Speaker 2: want to love you. The more simple, the.
- 15:27Speaker 1: More and more I dug into your chapter on overgiving,
- 15:31Speaker 1: I mean the more and more because I take notes
- 15:33Speaker 1: while I write. I don't care what book it is,
- 15:34Speaker 1: I'm always going to take notes. And what I pinned
- 15:37Speaker 1: out while going through that was that the overgiver is
- 15:41Speaker 1: the one that thinks they are the sunshine when in reality,
- 15:44Speaker 1: and this is what I got from reading, when in
- 15:46Speaker 1: reality they are the shadow. They're not the sunshine. They
- 15:50Speaker 1: are the shadow. And it's like, okay, we got to
- 15:51Speaker 1: get that person back to being the sunshine without thinking that,
- 15:55Speaker 1: Oh I did this, I did this, I did this,
- 15:56Speaker 1: I did this. Oh but it didn't have a payoff
- 16:00Speaker 1: the shadow So it just really am You open people's
- 16:04Speaker 1: minds and heart so well that you put them in
- 16:06Speaker 1: a position of where they have to answer their own questions.
- 16:11Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I do love that. It's really shadowy, and
- 16:15Speaker 2: yeah that is the work like in the you know,
- 16:17Speaker 2: people can't You can throw stuff at people as much
- 16:21Speaker 2: as you want, Yeah, it won't get them unless they
- 16:24Speaker 2: can actually come to their own conclusions. Right, So this
- 16:29Speaker 2: is why I love like asking questions and journal prompts
- 16:32Speaker 2: and helping people get to their own conclusions that they
- 16:35Speaker 2: can actually have realizations and recognize. Oh my goodness, I
- 16:38Speaker 2: am very you know, shadowy right now, I'm overgiving and
- 16:43Speaker 2: I'm doing all these kind of interesting things to get
- 16:46Speaker 2: well when it's it really doesn't have.
- 16:48Speaker 1: To be that hard, right, I'm seeing a lot of
- 16:50Speaker 1: promise rings these days. What's the scoop on this? Why
- 16:53Speaker 1: is this suddenly or are we gonna start seeing mood
- 16:55Speaker 1: rings too very soon?
- 16:57Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, I don't know, honestly. Like it's funny
- 17:00Speaker 2: because I don't think they We're supposed to go back
- 17:02Speaker 2: to how things were right, But I also don't know
- 17:05Speaker 2: that we're supposed to We're not supposed to say how
- 17:08Speaker 2: we are. I do think that we're meant to move
- 17:11Speaker 2: forward into new train, but I do think that we
- 17:13Speaker 2: have to keep some nice old traditions. And I think
- 17:16Speaker 2: that we have to start reconditioning the population to believing
- 17:21Speaker 2: in marriage again, to believing in long term love. And like,
- 17:25Speaker 2: what is a promise ring? Like why not just get engaged?
- 17:28Speaker 1: I don't like.
- 17:29Speaker 2: I don't get that, Like it's like everyone's just trying
- 17:31Speaker 2: to keep their options open. They're trying to stay one
- 17:33Speaker 2: foot in, one foot out, protect themselves a little bit, Like, no,
- 17:36Speaker 2: how come we can't just commit like what you've done.
- 17:39Speaker 2: You commit it to someone and you're like, I'm going
- 17:41Speaker 2: to make this work, and then you go and you
- 17:44Speaker 2: make it work, and you burn the boats and you
- 17:46Speaker 2: make it work. Thirty two years in that's it. There's
- 17:48Speaker 2: no other options, right, Like, No, I don't like this
- 17:51Speaker 2: promise ring thing by a real ring? Get married, do
- 17:55Speaker 2: large and help?
- 17:58Speaker 1: Where can people go to find out more about you?
- 18:00Speaker 1: Because twenty minutes with you is not enough. That we
- 18:02Speaker 1: are just barely scratching the surface and listeners need to
- 18:05Speaker 1: go where they can grow. And you are that needle
- 18:09Speaker 1: in a haystack.
- 18:11Speaker 2: Thank you. Yeah, I really appreciate that. So it's tough.
- 18:14Speaker 2: My name is really long. But if they can be
- 18:17Speaker 2: I guess the easiest way to find me would be
- 18:20Speaker 2: website wise, would just be become your own dream girl.
- 18:24Speaker 2: That's really easy. I feel like that. It's pretty easy.
- 18:28Speaker 2: But on Instagram Kelsey k e l s e y
- 18:33Speaker 2: and then it's g Au d Gojro. But once they
- 18:37Speaker 2: search Gau I'll come up Kelsey Godrop. Yeah. And then
- 18:42Speaker 2: my book, my brand new book is available right now
- 18:44Speaker 2: on Amazon and on Kindle, and then the audible will
- 18:47Speaker 2: be available next month. It's from Chasing to Chosen.
- 18:51Speaker 1: I love it. You got to come back to this show.
- 18:53Speaker 1: Oh my god, you've got to come up. Because love
- 18:55Speaker 1: is every day. It's not like, oh, we're doing it
- 18:57Speaker 1: as we go into summer. Oh we're doing it before
- 18:59Speaker 1: Valentine say, no, it's every day. It really is every day.
- 19:03Speaker 2: Yeah, it totally is. It's an everyday saying. It's the
- 19:06Speaker 2: same thing. If you want to have a great body,
- 19:07Speaker 2: you have to go to the gym every single week.
- 19:09Speaker 2: If you want to have a business, you have to
- 19:11Speaker 2: work at it every single day. It's the same thing
- 19:13Speaker 2: with love, and you just have to go, you know,
- 19:15Speaker 2: Touch your partner, tell them that they did a great
- 19:17Speaker 2: job today, Say thank you for throwing up your gas tank.
- 19:19Speaker 2: It's really easy, but it is a daily, daily effort
- 19:22Speaker 2: for sure.
- 19:23Speaker 1: Wow. Will you be brilliant today? Okay, and please make
- 19:26Speaker 1: your way back to this path, please.
- 19:29Speaker 2: And bring me back. Thank you so much for having me.
- 19:31Speaker 2: This was such a great conversation and thank you to
- 19:33Speaker 2: everyone listening. Super excited. Send me a DM on Instagram.
- 19:37Speaker 2: I'd love to hear from you, love to hear your thoughts. Yeah,
- 19:39Speaker 2: I love to just connect with everyone.
- 19:40Speaker 1: Excellent, be brilliant today.
- 19:42Speaker 2: Okay, Thank you you too. Bye,