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Why Did The DOJ Drag Their Feet On Investigating Jeffrey Epstein? · The Epstein Chronicles

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  Speaker 1: Alright, so today what we're going to talk about here
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  Speaker 1: on the program is a new report from the Daily
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  Speaker 1: News about the decision to not pursue Epstein in 2016.
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  Speaker 1: We know that this prosecution of Epstein from the very
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  Speaker 1: beginning was absolute garbage. Hot, stinking garbage, folks. Nobody ever
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  Speaker 1: nailed it down. Nobody ever went hard in the paint.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, they handed him a non-prosecution agreement that is
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  Speaker 1: amazingly horrible and nobody from his criminal enterprise went to
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  Speaker 1: jail until Maxwell. With all of the evidence that we
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  Speaker 1: have that is just in the circumstantial pile, there is
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  Speaker 1: no reason that that should have occurred. People that were
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  Speaker 1: working with Epstein, people that allegedly were working with Epstein,
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  Speaker 1: they should have all been brought in the first time around.
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  Speaker 1: But the prosecution didn't really care, did they? They were
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  Speaker 1: more interested in painting a picture for the grand jury
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  Speaker 1: of these girls being prostitutes and, uh, Less than, right? Oh,
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  Speaker 1: they kissed a boy on Myspace. Oh, they took a
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  Speaker 1: hit of weed. Oh, weed. What was that? Oh, they
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  Speaker 1: were drinking beer. Oh, no, they're drinking beers. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: the whole thing from the very beginning was just absolutely ridiculous.
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  Speaker 1: And the type of thing you would see in some
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  Speaker 1: sort of B-film, a late night movie on like one
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  Speaker 1: of Showtime's like many... Auxiliary channels, right? This is a
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  Speaker 1: storyline that's not even believable in real life, but yet
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  Speaker 1: here we are dealing with it. And now, in this
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  Speaker 1: new report, we're going to get a little bit more
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  Speaker 1: of a look behind the scenes as to why Epstein
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  Speaker 1: was not pursued in 2016. This article is from the NewYorkDailyNews.com
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  Speaker 1: Headline Manhattan federal prosecutors confirmed decision to not pursue Jeffrey
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  Speaker 1: Epstein in 2016. This article was authored by Stephen Rex Brown.
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  Speaker 1: Manhattan federal prosecutors confirmed in court papers made public Friday
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  Speaker 1: that they chose not to pursue Jeffrey Epstein in 2016,
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  Speaker 1: with one former assistant U.S. attorney saying she felt horrible
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  Speaker 1: After learning of the pervert's abuse of the criminal justice
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  Speaker 1: system in Florida. You know, this seems to be an
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  Speaker 1: ongoing theme with prosecutors and police officers and people involved
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  Speaker 1: in this case. Oh, we feel horrible. We have a
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  Speaker 1: lot of sorrow about what you went through, but there's
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  Speaker 1: no recourse for you. There's nothing we can do. We
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  Speaker 1: can't provide you with justice. That's basically what everybody at
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  Speaker 1: every single turn has said. Doesn't seem to be changing
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  Speaker 1: now either, does it? Same old actors, same old script.
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  Speaker 1: The disclosure by the Southern District of New York came
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  Speaker 1: in a 212-page filing responding to Ghislaine Maxwell's legal challenges
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  Speaker 1: to an indictment charging her with grooming underage Epstein survivors
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  Speaker 1: in the mid-1990s and lying under oath. So... This is just,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't understand how they can come to
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  Speaker 1: terms with something like that. How do you sit in
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  Speaker 1: your office and look at your colleagues and say, yeah, nah,
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  Speaker 1: we're not going to prosecute. Nah, this case doesn't warrant that. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 1: if you go to a protest these days, and I
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  Speaker 1: don't care if you're on the left or the right,
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  Speaker 1: you can expect a visit from the FBI, right? Oh,
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  Speaker 1: you're at a protest. How dare you go and express
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  Speaker 1: your rights. Meanwhile, Jeffrey Epstein's friends, they don't get a look.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody shows up to talk to them ever. Oh, you're
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  Speaker 1: accusing somebody of violating you sexually? Eh, we'll get to
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  Speaker 1: that when we get to it. Flip side, you were
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  Speaker 1: at a political rally. You belong in Guantanamo. You're an insurgent.
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  Speaker 1: Everything's upside down and Down is up, up is down,
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  Speaker 1: left is right, right is left. Who the hell knows
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  Speaker 1: anymore where we're at? One thing should be locked and
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  Speaker 1: loaded and for damn sure. And that is people like
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  Speaker 1: Maxwell and Epstein should never be getting the homie hookup.
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  Speaker 1: The Daily News exclusively revealed last year that lawyers for
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  Speaker 1: Epstein accusers met with the Assistant U.S. Attorney Amanda Kramer
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  Speaker 1: in 2016 and urged her to open an investigation of
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  Speaker 1: the notorious sex offender. She didn't have any time for that, right? 2016? Mr.
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  Speaker 1: Preet still in charge? They're going full bore with all
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  Speaker 1: their politics at that point, right? The once storied SDNY,
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  Speaker 1: nothing more... Than a political arm of the elite now.
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  Speaker 1: How pathetic. How disgusting. How discouraging. And these are the people.
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  Speaker 1: That we're putting all of our eggs in the basket with.
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  Speaker 1: To bring this case home. And you wonder. Why I'm
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  Speaker 1: so cynical. The SDNY. Is not this storied office. They're
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  Speaker 1: not this group of. Hard charging prosecutors. They're not this
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  Speaker 1: group of. They're more like Chuck Rhodes from Billions. Sources
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  Speaker 1: told the news that they also urged her to investigate Maxwell.
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  Speaker 1: But prosecutors wrote in a new filing that Epstein was
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  Speaker 1: the main subject of the February 29, 2016 sit-down in
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  Speaker 1: a conference room at SDNY headquarters in Lower Manhattan. Look,
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  Speaker 1: if you're having a sit-down about Epstein, you're having a
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  Speaker 1: sit-down about Maxwell as well. That's how... connected they were, right?
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  Speaker 1: So it should never be one without the other when
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  Speaker 1: we're talking about this criminal conspiracy. When they're talking about
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  Speaker 1: just going after one person, then you know that the
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  Speaker 1: fix is in. Because one person couldn't have done what
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  Speaker 1: this enterprise did. It takes more than one to launder
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  Speaker 1: this money. It takes more than one to groom these girls.
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  Speaker 1: It takes more than one to facilitate all of this stuff.
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  Speaker 1: And every single person who had their fingers in the pie,
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  Speaker 1: every single person who enriched themselves from these ill-gotten gains
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  Speaker 1: must be held accountable. You know, they talk a good
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  Speaker 1: game about wanting to restore faith in the institutions and
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  Speaker 1: in the justice system. But then they go off and
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  Speaker 1: do some wild shit like always and everybody's left shaking
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  Speaker 1: their head and talking about What a travesty it is.
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  Speaker 1: Rinse and repeat over and over and over again and
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  Speaker 1: nothing ever gets done. No one's ever held accountable and
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  Speaker 1: changes are never made. How long are we going to
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  Speaker 1: get caught up in this repeat cycle? We need real changes.
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  Speaker 1: And we need people like Epstein and Maxwell to be
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  Speaker 1: pursued to the very ends of the earth if that's
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  Speaker 1: what it takes. The focus of the meeting was on
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  Speaker 1: Epstein and Kramer understood that the attorneys were advocating that
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  Speaker 1: the USAO, United States Attorney's Office, SDNY, open an investigation
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  Speaker 1: into Epstein. Assistant U.S. Attorney Allison Moe wrote, During the meeting,
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  Speaker 1: the attorneys referenced multiple individuals who worked for and or
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  Speaker 1: helped Epstein, including Maxwell. But the attorneys primarily focused their
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  Speaker 1: presentation on Epstein. Well, that's because Epstein was the head
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  Speaker 1: of the dragon in this regard, right? And if you
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  Speaker 1: cut the head off, then you can go in and
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  Speaker 1: get the body. That's how they usually do it. So
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  Speaker 1: they were working from the top down when it comes
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  Speaker 1: to Epstein. Bring in Epstein and then wrap up all
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  Speaker 1: of his associates in a nice little bow under conspiracy charges.
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  Speaker 1: I'm guessing that's the way they were going, even if
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  Speaker 1: they don't admit it. You know, look, the government said
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  Speaker 1: that they had no plans of adding new charges to
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  Speaker 1: Maxwell and then here we are with a superseded indictment.
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  Speaker 1: I don't take anything the government says to me at
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  Speaker 1: face value either, folks. Believe it. I've said it once,
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  Speaker 1: I'll say it a million times. We're dealing with a
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  Speaker 1: pit of vipers on both sides here. Kramer recently spoke
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  Speaker 1: to an FBI agent and prosecutors on the Maxwell case
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  Speaker 1: about the 2016 meeting. Notes from the phone call which
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  Speaker 1: were included in the new filing, referred to Kramer by
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  Speaker 1: her initials, A.K. Kramer had the impression that the lawyers
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  Speaker 1: who came in to meet with A.K. were disorganized, the
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  Speaker 1: notes read. She suspected the survivors' lawyers wanted the feds
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  Speaker 1: to open a criminal investigation because it would give them
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  Speaker 1: an upper hand in civil litigation with Epstein, the documents reveal.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so that's what it was, huh? AK? You
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  Speaker 1: feel so bad. But in other words, it was a
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  Speaker 1: money grab. Let's just call it what it is. The SDNY,
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  Speaker 1: under Preet, by the way, let's remember. Preet, Preet, Preet,
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  Speaker 1: my best friend Preet. are the ones that did all
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  Speaker 1: of this. They're the ones that said, according to these documents,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't say it, they did, that the reason you're
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  Speaker 1: pining for this is because you want a better chance
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  Speaker 1: in your civil case. Boy, does the SDNY look stupid
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  Speaker 1: now or what? How's all that egg on the face there, SDNY?
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  Speaker 1: Do you want some ketchup with your crow? Three years later,
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  Speaker 1: they indict the guy. Maybe if you would have paid attention,
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  Speaker 1: All the way in the 90s when people were telling you.
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  Speaker 1: All the way through his whole reign of terror. You
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  Speaker 1: guys would have been able to stop him. But you
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  Speaker 1: had no interest in that, did you? After the meeting,
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  Speaker 1: Kramer met with her then-supervisor, Dan Stein. The prosecutor recalled
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  Speaker 1: being concerned that Florida FBI agents were allegedly not pleased
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  Speaker 1: with how an earlier investigation into Epstein concluded. Oh, well,
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  Speaker 1: that's very magnanimous. Very nice of them, okay? Very, very,
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  Speaker 1: very nice of them. Very magnanimous. I mean, we weren't
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  Speaker 1: happy with the way the investigation went down, but we're
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  Speaker 1: just going to put it on the back burner and
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  Speaker 1: forget it ever happened. Where's the integrity? I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: get it. You don't want to lose your job, right?
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  Speaker 1: FBI agent's a good job. Probably making close to 100
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  Speaker 1: G's a year or something. Nobody wants to lose a
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  Speaker 1: gig like that. But at what point Does it become
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  Speaker 1: a situation where you're sacrificing your own morality for a
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  Speaker 1: few bucks? So Kramer contacted the FBI's then head of
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  Speaker 1: sex crimes against children in New York, Sean Watson, and
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  Speaker 1: asked him to speak with FBI agents in Florida. Kramer
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  Speaker 1: wanted Watson to ask colleagues in the Sunshine State whether
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  Speaker 1: they were unhappy with the outcome and felt like justice
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  Speaker 1: had not been served, according to the notes. Hold on
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  Speaker 1: a minute. If you're a station chief or you're a
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  Speaker 1: field boss, I get it. You want to talk to
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  Speaker 1: your employees and get a feel, right? And see what's what.
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  Speaker 1: But let's be real. You're the one that's making this choice.
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  Speaker 1: Don't try and pass the buck. If I was this agent,
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  Speaker 1: forget sending an email. I'd be at your door. Knock, knock, knock. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: did you get that email I sent you? Hey, I
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  Speaker 1: got some problems over here. We're going to need to
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  Speaker 1: handle this. But no, we'll just forget about it. I
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  Speaker 1: sent him an email, but I got no response, so
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  Speaker 1: we just forgot about it. I mean, what? Talk about
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  Speaker 1: dereliction of duty. The inquiry hit a dead end after that.
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  Speaker 1: No Epstein investigation was opened in response to the 2016 meeting.
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  Speaker 1: Sean never called AK back. AK doesn't recall ever affirmatively
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  Speaker 1: following up with Sean. But she took the radio silence
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  Speaker 1: to mean that the FBI agents in Florida did not
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  Speaker 1: express dissatisfaction, the notes read. Is this really how the
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  Speaker 1: FBI works? No wonder all of these different things happen
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  Speaker 1: to America. These guys don't know their ass from their elbow.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't hear back, so I just forgot about it.
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  Speaker 1: No follow-up, no phone call, no knock on the door. Nah,
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  Speaker 1: we'll just forget about it. We'll let the most prolific
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  Speaker 1: sex criminal in modern times, at the very least, just
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  Speaker 1: get away with it. AK and this Sean character, both
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  Speaker 1: should have their pensions yanked. Epstein survivors say the pervert
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  Speaker 1: used his wealth and influence to avoid federal charges in
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  Speaker 1: Miami in 2008. Despite evidence, he ran an underage sex
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  Speaker 1: trafficking ring. Epstein pleaded guilty to state prostitution charges in
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  Speaker 1: a highly unusual sweetheart deal with then Southern District of
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  Speaker 1: Florida U.S. Attorney Alex Acosta. We know that that whole
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  Speaker 1: entire episode was maybe one of the lowest points in
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  Speaker 1: the history of the United States judicial system. And I
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  Speaker 1: mean that. Letting this guy off on that NPA is absolutely...
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  Speaker 1: There's not even words to describe how disgusting it is.
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  Speaker 1: Epstein only served 13 months in Palm Beach County Jail,
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  Speaker 1: including home releases, then allegedly continued to abuse minors. The
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  Speaker 1: episode remains a major embarrassment for the Just Us department. Oh, well,
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  Speaker 1: you tag it on to all the major embarrassments that
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  Speaker 1: the Justice Department has under its belt, and then you
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  Speaker 1: wonder why I'm so critical of them. They need to
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  Speaker 1: get their act together. And if they can't do it
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  Speaker 1: under current management, under current leadership, then somebody who knows
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  Speaker 1: what the hell they're doing needs to be brought in.
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  Speaker 1: Or maybe just disband the whole entire thing and start
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  Speaker 1: from the bottom up. And then while you're at it,
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  Speaker 1: you can fire everybody at the CIA and just bring
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  Speaker 1: Edward Snowden and Julian Assange over to take care of
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  Speaker 1: that role. The Sorted Saga was highlighted in a bombshell
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  Speaker 1: Miami Herald investigation published in November 2018, which prompted Manhattan
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  Speaker 1: prosecutors to open the Epstein probe that resulted in his
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  Speaker 1: arrest for underage sex trafficking. You know what's crazy? They
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  Speaker 1: needed the embarrassment and the egg on the face of
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  Speaker 1: an investigation being opened by a newspaper to spur them
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  Speaker 1: into motion. Remember, we're not talking about a robber here.
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  Speaker 1: We're not talking about somebody who was involved in some
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  Speaker 1: kind of financial scheme. He was, but that's not his
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  Speaker 1: main crime. We're talking about a prolific child trafficker. And
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  Speaker 1: nobody thought it would be a good idea to open
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  Speaker 1: an investigation? You had to wait until the Miami Herald
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  Speaker 1: absolutely exposed you and embarrassed you? That's promising. That's promising.
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  Speaker 1: Kramer spoke with her SDNY colleagues after the story broke.
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  Speaker 1: Part of the reason AK felt horrible when reading the
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  Speaker 1: Miami Herald article was because AK took no action after
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  Speaker 1: calling Sean Watson, the notes read. Oh, yeah, well, I
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  Speaker 1: guess it's nice to feel sorry the next day, right?
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  Speaker 1: Guess what, AK? You're not getting let off the hook.
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  Speaker 1: You are in a position to help. You are in
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  Speaker 1: a position to stop this. None of us are. We're
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  Speaker 1: just common citizens who are pissed off. You had a
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  Speaker 1: chance to stop it, and you didn't. You should feel
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  Speaker 1: bad about it. AK remembers telling them that she felt
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  Speaker 1: terrible reading the Miami Herald series. You know what? You're
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  Speaker 1: an FBI agent. You couldn't pull the files from Florida
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  Speaker 1: and read the accounts of them girls themselves? I don't
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  Speaker 1: believe that. Stop with the lip service. Stop with the
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  Speaker 1: crocodile tears. I'm over here playing the world's smallest violin
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  Speaker 1: for you there, AK. Sources told the news that Kramer
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  Speaker 1: had a second meeting with attorneys for Epstein survivors in
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  Speaker 1: the summer of 2016. after Maxwell was deposed in connection
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  Speaker 1: with a civil suit brought by Epstein's survivor, Virginia Roberts.
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  Speaker 1: Survivors lawyers David Boies and Stan Pottinger urged Kramer to
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  Speaker 1: consider charging Maxwell with lying under oath, the sources said.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and she didn't do it. It took four
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  Speaker 1: more years? for other agents to come in and clean
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  Speaker 1: up your mess. It took Alison Moe and the prosecution
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  Speaker 1: that's currently working on this to clean up your mess
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  Speaker 1: at least a little bit. And these are the people
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  Speaker 1: that we're relying on to stop terrorism and narco-trafficking and
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  Speaker 1: all of that stuff, folks. I'm sure you all feel
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  Speaker 1: real secure. Do me a favor and make sure you
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  Speaker 1: lock your doors tonight. Prosecutors wrote in the new filing
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  Speaker 1: that the second meeting never happened, though Kramer did have
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  Speaker 1: a phone call with Pottinger on May 2nd, 2016. This,
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  Speaker 1: you know what, they've been nothing but devious the whole time.
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  Speaker 1: Let's not forget the year-long chain of emails that disappeared
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  Speaker 1: with Acosta and his bosses over all of this shit.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's to the point now where I can't
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  Speaker 1: help but just being utterly cynical and sarcastic about the
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  Speaker 1: whole entire government portion of this. They are absolutely disgusting.
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  Speaker 1: Kramer does not recall the details of that conversation, nor
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  Speaker 1: is the government aware of any notes or other records
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  Speaker 1: documenting the substance of the call, Moe wrote in the filing.
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  Speaker 1: So there's no record of it. Nobody knows anything. No
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  Speaker 1: one's the wiser. And the government can have the stance of, oh,
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  Speaker 1: this never happened. We don't know what you're talking about.
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  Speaker 1: SDNY wrote it could find no records indicating Kramer communicated
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  Speaker 1: with attorneys for Epstein and Maxwell accusers after May 3rd, 3rd, 2016.
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  Speaker 1: Maxwell is accused of lying in depositions in April and
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  Speaker 1: July 2016. Her legal team argues survivors' attorneys were improperly
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  Speaker 1: in cahoots with the feds, compromising aspects of her criminal case.
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  Speaker 1: She has pleaded not guilty. Oh yeah, they were so
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  Speaker 1: in cahoots with the feds, her lawyers, that all of
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  Speaker 1: these prosecutions came in 2016, right? Do me a favor,
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  Speaker 1: Maxwell's legal team. Go back to the drawing board and
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  Speaker 1: start all over. Because it's starting to look like you
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  Speaker 1: guys straight up suck. If you'd like to contact me,
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