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Wk 5, Bears VS Packers, Pregame Show · Bears Banter Talk Show

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_03: Bears Banner Talk Show by the Chicago Bears fans or the Chicago Bears fans.
• 0:06
  SPEAKER_03: Hey! Don't forget to subscribe.
• 0:45
  SPEAKER_03: Hey, welcome to Bass Banner.
• 0:48
  SPEAKER_03: Welcome to Bas Banner, everybody.
• 0:50
  SPEAKER_03: Hey, look like your picture went black, Jay.
• 0:52
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, really?
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_03: Mm-hmm.
• 0:55
  SPEAKER_03: Man, Green Bay Packers fans already at it again, bro.
• 1:00
  SPEAKER_01: Can you see me now?
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_03: No, no, it's completely dark.
• 1:04
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, okay, hold on.
• 1:05
  SPEAKER_01: Let me uh let me see what happened.
• 1:07
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know, I don't know what happened here.
• 1:10
  SPEAKER_03: You know, it's a rival week between the Bears and the Packers.
• 1:14
  SPEAKER_03: You know, you know, man, I swear every time we have a Packers Week, you know, something stuff happened with the visuals and I don't know, man, them haters, them whackers.
• 1:27
  SPEAKER_03: Jay was good before we started up.
• 1:29
  SPEAKER_03: Then all of a sudden, as soon as we start, this camera goes dark.
• 1:33
  SPEAKER_03: There you go, Jay.
• 1:35
  SPEAKER_03: There we go.
• 1:37
  SPEAKER_02: There we go.
• 1:38
  SPEAKER_02: There we go.
• 1:40
  SPEAKER_02: Welcome to Bass Banner, everybody.
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_02: Week five.
• 1:44
  SPEAKER_02: First of all, we gotta take a hat off to the coach, to the coach who passed away today.
• 1:51
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I had and you know, I learned some interesting facts.
• 1:54
  SPEAKER_02: As much as I knew about Mike Dicker, I learned a lot of interesting facts today that I didn't know that he was the first tight end to be elected to the All of Fame.
• 2:05
  SPEAKER_02: I did not know that.
• 2:07
  SPEAKER_02: That blew my mind.
• 2:08
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, wow, really.
• 2:09
  SPEAKER_02: And then they was talking about when he got drafted, how George Hallis, it wasn't really a tight end position, and it was like they created this position because he wanted somebody that could block and somebody quick enough to actually go out and run past patterns.
• 2:29
  SPEAKER_02: So it was a lot of things that I learned about Mike Dicker today, and I can say, as a Bears fan, I wasn't the biggest Mike Dicker fan.
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_02: I'm just being honest to everybody.
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_02: I can't say that I did respect, I did respect the coach, but I wasn't a really big fan of his.
• 2:46
  SPEAKER_02: But I did learn a lot about him today as they uh talked about all the stories on every network that talked about sports today.
• 2:57
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, yeah, send my condolence to the Dicker family.
• 3:00
  SPEAKER_03: I I didn't know that Jay either, man, that the tight end position was and you know it is an interesting thing, man.
• 3:07
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, how many records that Dicker held for a long time as a tight end, right?
• 3:13
  SPEAKER_03: As far as catching the ball, right?
• 3:15
  SPEAKER_03: Because, you know, you pretty much had a time where you really didn't see, I can say tight ends.
• 3:21
  SPEAKER_03: I started seeing catching the ball a little bit.
• 3:23
  SPEAKER_03: I think I can't remember who the dolphins had, but it was a guy the dolphins who I think had a pretty good tight end in the 70s, you know, for what it was worth at that time.
• 3:32
  SPEAKER_03: Then I think Denver started using the tight end.
• 3:35
  SPEAKER_02: And I remember in the 70s, I was telling some of my co-workers, I remember guys like Kellen Winslow, you know, with the Chargers.
• 3:43
  SPEAKER_02: And then I thought about Doug Casper with the Raiders.
• 3:47
  SPEAKER_02: Doug Casper was my guy, man.
• 3:49
  SPEAKER_02: Him and uh Kenny Stable the other day.
• 3:51
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, you know, yeah, you know what I'm saying.
• 3:54
  SPEAKER_02: So I thought about it, but then I thought too that you know Dicker was before them, you know what I'm saying?
• 4:00
  SPEAKER_02: So so it was one of those things where I was just like, wow, and then if I reheard it correctly, because I didn't look up the stats, uh Dicker had a thousand-yard season one year, and for him to have a thousand-yard season back then when they wasn't chunking the ball 50 times 50 times a game, that's a big that's a big feat.
• 4:22
  SPEAKER_02: So I understand how he became the first tight end to be inducted into the hall of fame.
• 4:28
  SPEAKER_02: So so yeah, that was that was that was a another stat that I didn't know today that he was actually the first tight end to be inducted into the hall of fame.
• 4:38
  SPEAKER_02: And now you look at the tight ends that's in the hall of fame now, you know what I'm saying?
• 4:43
  SPEAKER_02: It's like, okay, wow, these guys, but but yeah, but uh, you know, a a sombre day in Chicago, a sombre day around the NFL, you know.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, you know, the coach passed.
• 4:54
  SPEAKER_02: But but my condolences to Diana and his family and his and his children and and all of that.
• 5:00
  SPEAKER_02: But and you know, the fact that it's happening this week during practice week, as we can get to that.
• 5:11
  SPEAKER_03: Looking at your your shirt, Tavares, and you know, uh with the coach, right?
• 5:17
  SPEAKER_03: We you know you're saying the coach, right?
• 5:19
  SPEAKER_03: Then they hit that routine that kind of grew up, the two guys doing the uh you know, the little skid with the coach into it expanded to.
• 5:27
  SPEAKER_03: I know with you being a seasoned ticket holder, I'm sure it's always somebody with that mustache on it's always a bunch of dickers in in the stands, man.
• 5:36
  SPEAKER_02: It's always a bunch of dickers walking through the tailgate.
• 5:40
  SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
• 5:41
  SPEAKER_02: They always, you know, just dressed up as the coach, man.
• 5:44
  SPEAKER_02: He was uh he was uh a prominent figure here in Chicago, and I believe he coached for 11 years here, uh from 82 to 90.
• 5:57
  SPEAKER_02: I want to say uh 82 to 93 or something like that.
• 6:03
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, uh, before Weisted, before they hired Weisted.
• 6:06
  SPEAKER_02: So, so yeah, he he was a prominent figure here, you know, with his restaurant and all the commercials and you know, just him being that figure, not to mention him with that 85 team with that has so many different characters on it.
• 6:23
  SPEAKER_02: And he was able to capitalize on those players, you know, for game because they did commercials, they did, you know, uh uh he had the Mike Dickens show.
• 6:35
  SPEAKER_02: You know, who posted up for the Mike Dickers show at 10:30 on Sunday before the pregame, you know, so he had all of these things.
• 6:44
  SPEAKER_02: Um and it it was just a successful run for him as the coach of the Chicago Bears after being a player, and not to mention, he's the only player that's in the hall of fame that won a Super Bowl as a head coach, as an assistant coach, as well as a player.
• 7:05
  SPEAKER_02: So it you know, it's you know, he he he did he did some phenomenal things in in his football career.
• 7:11
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, yeah, he sure had.
• 7:13
  SPEAKER_03: Man, you know, that brings us up to Pack a week.
• 7:16
  SPEAKER_03: Man, you know what?
• 7:17
  SPEAKER_03: And Dick was I just parlayed this into this where that rivalry really got more heated up in the 80s.
• 7:25
  SPEAKER_03: Um, when the Packers, when Dicker was the coach to one of the Packer players, flipped Jim McMahon after the play that he had passed the ball.
• 7:34
  SPEAKER_03: And it wasn't one of those like continuous things, it was just really just a dirty play.
• 7:39
  SPEAKER_03: He threw the ball hard pocket, yeah.
• 7:41
  SPEAKER_03: And the guy just uh, I guess with Ross Wrestling, he still played him, you know, and and you know, the rest is history.
• 7:50
  SPEAKER_03: And I think at that point, that the river became, I mean, it's always listed, but I think it became more of like, okay, man, you know, it you know, this is dirty.
• 8:00
  SPEAKER_02: And I don't know if you remember the play where Walter ran out of bounds, and I can't rem I can't recall the defensive back that ran him out of bounds and flipped him over the bench.
• 8:11
  SPEAKER_02: That was a that was another part of this, you know, this heated rivalry.
• 8:15
  SPEAKER_02: So it's been some things that's that went on over the last couple of years, over the last I ain't gonna say couple of years, because I want to start out with, you know, as I I think I'm different, and this is just me personally, uh Bears Manor.
• 8:31
  SPEAKER_02: I think I'm different when it comes to Bears Pack of Rivalry Week because I've had decades of trauma.
• 8:43
  SPEAKER_02: I've had decades of trauma of this rivalry.
• 8:47
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I'm talking about from the 80s to the 90s, we're talking about the 2000s, now we're in 2010, 2020.
• 8:54
  SPEAKER_02: I've had some decades of trauma when it comes to this rivalry.
• 8:58
  SPEAKER_02: And you know, people walking around, you know, the bears are riding a high right now, you know, and and the packers are on the low right now because they decimated with a lot of injuries and they're not playing well, you know.
• 9:15
  SPEAKER_02: And everybody walking around, I you know, I saw I saw a post today.
• 9:18
  SPEAKER_02: They was like, Oh, the Packers, oh, the Bears gonna beat them 60.
• 9:23
  SPEAKER_02: Uh uh I I this is still an NFL rivalry, it's a Packers game, and we need to keep it all in perspective.
• 9:35
  SPEAKER_03: Hey, hey Jay, last night is an example of why you gotta play the game.
• 9:40
  SPEAKER_03: Yep, that's why they play the game.
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_03: I tell y'all that all the time.
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_02: That's why you play the game.
• 9:44
  SPEAKER_03: Cowboys in Tampa.
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_03: Jay, this is what's crazy about that game, you know, like the game itself, right?
• 9:50
  SPEAKER_03: But anyway, I come home from boxing and I see you know, game already started, so I'm watching it and I see I keep trying to figure out I'm looking at the score, and I'm trying to figure out why is Dallas in a hurry.
• 10:02
  SPEAKER_03: I'm like, man, why are they in a hurry?
• 10:04
  SPEAKER_03: In my mind, I'm seeing the score reverse.
• 10:07
  SPEAKER_03: I'm thinking Dallas winning because Tampa is four-and-four, right?
• 10:11
  SPEAKER_03: So I'm gonna see it.
• 10:12
  SPEAKER_03: So I'm like, man, why are they hurrying, man?
• 10:14
  SPEAKER_03: And then with Tampa goal scored on the goal line, I'm really uh well, when I really think about that, it was confusing in the first place because that made absolutely no sense.
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_03: So come on, Todd Bose, what the heck you doing, man?
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_03: You kick that field goal and you go up by two scores that late in the game, you go for it, and now you leave in the uh you leave in the what an eight-point game at that point, right?
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_03: And then Dallas driving down the field, and you know, typical like Dallas, man.
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_03: They they go, I mean, Dak Prescott's a good quarterback, but in those moments, man, he he just seemed like he's gonna it, even though that wasn't even his fault, man.
• 10:48
  SPEAKER_03: The ball bounced off the I think the tight end and it goes far up in the air, and and pretty much the game.
• 10:55
  SPEAKER_02: I I ran home and I run in the basement.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_02: I run in the basement.
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_02: I turn on the TV, the game just started.
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_02: Two plays in Dallas up seven-nothing.
• 11:04
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, oh, okay, here we go.
• 11:06
  SPEAKER_02: And two plays, it's seven-nothing.
• 11:08
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, this finna be a route.
• 11:11
  SPEAKER_02: So now I'm double boxed.
• 11:13
  SPEAKER_02: I'm I'm trying to watch the white socks, and I'm trying to watch the and I'm trying to watch Dallas.
• 11:17
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm looking and I'm just like, oh my god, what is Dallas doing?
• 11:21
  SPEAKER_02: It was 7-7, and then it went 10-7 at halftime, and then Coach Sunheimer was talking about how they gotta do this in the second half.
• 11:29
  SPEAKER_02: Man, Dak played a terrible game yesterday.
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_02: It was terrible, and you know, the week before when CD Lamb caught 17 passes, you know, it was like okay, it was like okay, oh, it it was this total reverse.
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_02: But again, I tell people that's why they play the game, that's why they play the game, and you know, shout out to Jalen Daniels, you know, an undrafted free agent started a game on the road and won a football game.
• 12:06
  SPEAKER_02: That's huge.
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_02: That's huge.
• 12:08
  SPEAKER_02: I saw the interview.
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_02: We go we can go to the game in a minute, but I saw they interviewed his mom.
• 12:12
  SPEAKER_02: They brought her up on the prime time, uh the prime video stage yesterday after the game, and and she was just looking at her son, and she was like, I am just so proud of you.
• 12:23
  SPEAKER_02: She was like, This is she was like, I'm just un this is unbelievable.
• 12:28
  SPEAKER_02: And it was a proud moment, and it was a tearjerker for for a lot of people, and I was just like, Man, I was like, This is nice, this is nice.
• 12:36
  SPEAKER_02: So, just to see that young man go on the road to win a football game in prime time on a Thursday night was was really special, and like I say again, as we say, that's why they play the game.
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_03: That's why they play the game.
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_03: Hey, Anthony, Anthony uh Jackson.
• 12:51
  SPEAKER_03: Hey, thanks for checking in with us.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_03: Appreciate you viewing us tonight, and and those who are out there watching, hey, make sure you hit the subscribe button.
• 12:59
  SPEAKER_03: Man, and I hope me being in another state didn't draw off the time because the weird part is you know, when you set these things up and it's in the central time zone, then when you travel to another zone, to another time, it adjusted the time, but it may be showing like like on the broadcast, it may be showing that the the the broadcast is gonna start at eight o'clock versus you know what I'm saying, uh 8 30 versus 7:30.
• 13:30
  SPEAKER_03: So for the people uh who in the you know central time zone, they may think we haven't even started yet because right, right, you know, the time or it's over whichever one it is because the time thing is all.
• 13:41
  SPEAKER_03: But DJ, it was even some dirty just go back to this man.
• 13:48
  SPEAKER_03: Where one of the defensive back hit DJ in the back in the play, trying to seem like he tried, you know, pretended like he ran into DJ.
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_03: That was deliberate, and you know, and they got a history of doing some stuff.
• 14:01
  SPEAKER_03: You know what, man, this is what was funny last year, too, Jay.
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_03: Earlier that first game, I think it was the first game, and Michael Parson was just said that he was gonna get his sack on Caleb.
• 14:15
  SPEAKER_03: And he did not he I don't even think he, I don't think he even grabbed Caleb jersey in that game.
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_03: And then he was talking smack to um uh what's the brother's name that's uh used to play for Cleveland, uh Miles Garrett.
• 14:29
  SPEAKER_03: He was talking about Miles Garrett, and he was talking about something, and Miles Garrett was like, dude, you didn't even say Caleb.
• 14:38
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it is it's been a long-standing, dirty game, and we can go back, you know, for some years, you know.
• 14:48
  SPEAKER_02: I I don't I I don't know how long people go back, but we can go back years, man.
• 14:54
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know if uh um uh Bernard, if you remember the the the safety that played uh for the uh Packers Chuck Cecil, who was just one of the most dirtiest players in the NFL.
• 15:09
  SPEAKER_02: Uh and I remember you know hits on Willie Galt and all these guys, man, where you know the rivalry is just heated.
• 15:19
  SPEAKER_02: And this is like a legitimate, a legitimate rivalry where these two teams just don't like each other.
• 15:27
  SPEAKER_02: And for Ben to come back and spark the whole thing, because I'll like I say, decades of trauma, you know, through the Far years and the Aaron Rodgers years, and even the early Jordan Love reels uh years, because if you look at it, Jordan Love is actually 4-0 against the Bears.
• 15:48
  SPEAKER_02: You know, uh Malik Willis started a game last year, Malik Willis finished the game last year, and when you when you finish the game for the starting quarterback, that record goes on the starting quarterback.
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_02: So he's actually lost two games.
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_02: But this is this is something that's that's been heated, and it's only gonna be escalated now.
• 16:12
  SPEAKER_02: I remember back in 1999 when sweetness passed, and we had to go on the road to play Green Bay in '99, and we were up that entire game.
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_02: Brett Farr brought them back, and they had a 28-yard chip shot to win the game, and Brian Robinson blocked that field goal, and everybody was saying it was the ghost of Baltimore that lifted him up to get his hand on that ball.
• 16:48
  SPEAKER_02: So, you know, and that's what the first thing I thought about after, you know, thinking about you know, Dick and all that.
• 16:55
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, I'm like, wow, this is just so Packers weak.
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_02: So here we go again, thinking about these same things.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_02: So uh it's gonna be interesting.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_02: It's gonna be interesting.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, it's a lot of injuries on both sides of the football to um some key players because you know, us not having my none guy after a 30 carry, 170-yard performance last week is that's huge.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_02: That is gonna be out.
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_02: He's gonna be out.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he's totally out.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_02: He's been ruled out for the he's been ruled out for Sunday, so he's not playing.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_02: So we're looking at DeAndre Swift and possibly Roshan Johnson.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_02: And I just found out today that um Britton Brown is on IR, so he's you can't elevate him from the practice squad.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_02: So I think that Kid Ahmed may wind up getting elevated uh off the practice squad to the 53-man roster.
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_02: But this is, you know, and on the the the Packers side, you know, Edrian Cooper is out for the season.
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_02: They starting three street free agents on their offensive line this week that they've signed over the last couple of weeks.
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_02: So, you know, uh, we're looking at Jordan Love, who's been the most blitzed quarterback in the NFL this year, uh 43 rate.
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, so this is this is gonna be a Bears, Packers, smash mouth, who wants it more type of victor, uh type of game.
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, hey.
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, I've seen uh Anthony Jackson say, Hey, what do you guys feel about the use of the tight ends?
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_03: I think we need to open up that chapter a little bit more.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_03: You know, uh, so far, Anthony, I I have not got a chance to look at any all 22s yet this season.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_03: I do want to get a chance.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_03: I usually try to look at quite a few you know, at least half the games.
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_03: I usually watch the all 22s, but having this season, my guess would be is because the lack of use is as good as the blocking has been, it hasn't really been great on the left side, but they've been using the tight end to help chip and stuff like that.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_03: And sometimes over on the left side, what I might have noticed at times is the tight end may just fall out in the flat as more of a you know, just a check down if needed.
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, I've seen some plays like that, but I think that's part of the problem.
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_03: What do you think of as far as that with the tight end?
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_02: I think looking at the all 22, because I did watch the all 22 of the Jets game, which was a snoozer.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_02: That was a snoozer for me.
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_02: And the game prior to that, uh, where they actually use the tight ends a lot, but then hasn't exposed the tight ends to the passing game yet, which is why Coast and Loveland really hasn't popped this season so far.
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, they showed a little bit more last week because they didn't have to use the 13 personnel to block a lot.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, our offensive line was able to push the Jets around with just our offensive line.
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, and like you said, Bernard, the left side of the offensive line has been a little shaky.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_02: And that showed when uh Ben flipped the right tackle and the right guard to the left side, you know, to run a play.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_02: So that you know, that showed in that area.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_02: But I think it's gonna potentially open up as we get healthier on our offensive line.
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_02: And what I mean by that, I mean by at the left tackle position.
• 20:36
  SPEAKER_02: Uh Braxton Jones is on IR now.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_02: And is, you know, so now you got Theo Benedict out there.
• 20:43
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm hoping that Trapillo is gonna be able to get back on the field soon.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, we got a roster spot open right now with Marcus Davenport retiring, which we ain't gonna spend no time talking about that.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so we don't know who's gonna be elevated from the pup list, you know.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_02: Even though Trapillo is not on the pup list, he's on the active roster.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_02: But we got some guys that can potentially come off the pup list and be elevated to the 53-man roster.
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_02: But I think, you know, with that 13 personnel and the tight ends, Anthony, I think it's one of those things where he just hasn't been able to utilize it yet.
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_02: And I just want to say, as petty as Ben is, as petty as Ben is, we're gonna see a lot of passes to the tight end this week.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_02: Like that.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_02: He likes okay, Mike Dickel, okay.
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_02: Let me throw the Sam Rouse a couple of times.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_02: Let Cole Come get a couple of these, Coastal Love Man.
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_02: We're gonna get you in the end zone.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_02: So I think that's the reason why.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_02: But it's gonna be uh it's gonna be it's gonna be some pettiness played throughout this week.
• 21:59
  SPEAKER_02: Um I mean throughout Sunday with Ben Johnson and the Packers and the passing of Mike Dicker and the rivalry, he's gonna mesh all that together some kind of way to have it fit the way he wanted to fit.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_03: Hey, uh hey Anthony said being this petty that I love.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_03: And I love that and I love it too.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_03: This is where you showed the show Petty at his uh best.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_03: When he started, when he started Case Kennam last week.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_03: Yep.
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_03: So technically Case Kennam was the starter.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, he got the win, right?
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_02: And I even said that Caleb was on not listed out this week.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_02: He did practice today.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_02: I wouldn't be surprised if Candle started the game and just did a handoff.
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_02: And then and then went.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_02: And all this.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_02: The Bears needed this because we have we have lived in mediocracy for so long with guys like Iber Flus.
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_02: And outside of his first year of Matt Nagy, we've lived in mediocracy.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_02: And I love the fact that Ben holds the players accountable.
• 23:44
  SPEAKER_02: You know, had last week, had Eba Fluz been the coach and DeAndre Swift fumbled that football, he would have been right out there on the next series.
• 23:57
  SPEAKER_02: No, no.
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_02: And in Ben's press conference today, he talked about the fumble against the Vikings that DeAndre Swift had.
• 24:07
  SPEAKER_02: He was like, you know what?
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_02: We we went over the film.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_02: The guy got in there, he punched that ball out.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_02: We understand that it's a wet football, wet field.
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_02: He punched it out.
• 24:18
  SPEAKER_02: He was like, but that fumble against the Jets was egregious.
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_02: And we cannot have that.
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_02: So, in order for you to figure out what it is you need to do, I need you to come over here and sit with me.
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_02: And we were sitting in the stands, and we was looking, we like what DeAndre Swift at?
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_02: And we look look down on the sideline, and there he is, no helmet in hand, just standing on the sideline.
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, oh, I'm like, Ben just sent a statement.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_02: We're not gonna have it.
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_02: And I love it.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, Jay, one one of the things, you know, since you know former back, I know I said this on the two-minute drill last night.
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, me and Christian sometimes would go, you know, back with the previous quarterback when I would talk about farming a lot.
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_03: One of the things that I I always watch with people carrying the ball is when the ball comes loose from their hands.
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_03: Now, a lot of people, when they talk about fumbles, right?
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_03: You have fumbles and you have lost fumbles.
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_03: You also, in my eyes, have loose balls.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_03: Loose balls are balls where sometimes the guy loses it, lose the ball just as he's making contact to the ground.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_03: He's ruled down, so it's not ruled as a fumble.
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_03: But to me, loose balls are concerning.
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_03: I started sounding off the loose ball thing with DeAndre Swift last year.
• 25:49
  SPEAKER_03: See, we I think in the first game of the season, under DeAndre Swift, if you look on the stat sheet, he doesn't have a fumble or lost fumble in the first game.
• 25:58
  SPEAKER_03: He actually put the ball on the ground though on some plays where he actually because he was actually down.
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_03: Sometimes those are only fractions of a seconds of what's different between a fumble and you was already down.
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm not talking about that when the guy goes down and somebody's pulling it out of his arm and that pop up.
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_03: I'm talking about sometimes when you just get contacted and you're going down and it just you lose it, and then but your knee hit first and it kind of bounced against you.
• 26:25
  SPEAKER_03: They don't count that it never shows up on the statue, but it shows poor ball security is starting to build up.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_03: But anyway, Jay, moving back to this Packers game itself.
• 26:34
  SPEAKER_03: Man, last year, I know I saw some you know some of the off-season clips that all of us enjoy have been that Packers rival where even where uh Roma Dunze makes that the jump man throw by Caleb, right?
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_03: That that's against the Packers and the Jade Walker touchdown, that's against the Packers.
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_03: You know, and then yeah, then the walkoff, the walkoff touchdown by DJ when he's like laying there like, yeah, you know, man.
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_03: DJ, unless he win a Super Bowl, that would be his greatest play.
• 27:13
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, greatest moment, man.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_02: I agree, I totally agree.
• 27:16
  SPEAKER_03: That's like a ground slam, man.
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_03: That's like a ground slam for a baseball player.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_03: You know, at the end of the game, man, you down by three, and then you hit this grand slam, and you know, and that's the last play at the bottom of the night, you know.
• 27:28
  SPEAKER_03: Especially like if it was two outs or something, man, bases loaded, it's just you and that pitcher, you hit that grand slam, and it was not if they if it went in field, it was gonna be an out.
• 27:38
  SPEAKER_03: You lose by, you know, but then you hit the grand slam and you end up going by one.
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_03: But man, it is what it is, Jay.
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_03: So you excited about this, man?
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_03: What's going on?
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, uh, because last year, like I said, you know, decades of trauma against the Packers has has me so level.
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_02: And as I go into this game and thinking about the keys of the game, here we are.
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_02: The Bears are three and one.
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_02: Am I right?
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_02: Three and one?
• 28:13
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, the Bears are three and one.
• 28:15
  SPEAKER_02: The last three games have been at Soldier Field.
• 28:19
  SPEAKER_02: So now we're talking about your home environment with backup quarterbacks, where the crowd has finally decided that they're gonna stay silent while the Bears are on offense.
• 28:35
  SPEAKER_02: You got your defense that's played well in these last three games at home with the crowd behind them.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_02: But now we're talking about playing your rival on the road with a backup quarterback.
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_02: Not saying it's concerning, but it's something to think about because the bottom line is the Packers are not gonna lay down.
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_02: So, you know, I hear all these people talking about oh, the Bears got this.
• 29:08
  SPEAKER_02: Uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh.
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_02: You still gonna get you still talking about a rivalry, a division opponent, a backup quarterback on the road.
• 29:20
  SPEAKER_02: The Bears are equipped to win this game.
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_02: I think the Bears have the better roster with all the injuries that the Packers have.
• 29:28
  SPEAKER_02: But we still, you know, last week against the Jets, to be honest, I was in the stands in the fourth quarter.
• 29:36
  SPEAKER_02: I was nodding.
• 29:37
  SPEAKER_02: I was I was literally in the stands nodding.
• 29:40
  SPEAKER_02: You know, my boy was like, Jay, wake up.
• 29:42
  SPEAKER_02: I was this ain't finna be no snoozer just because it's it's the Packers, it's a division rivalry, and we on the road.
• 29:53
  SPEAKER_02: So I just want people to curve their expectations.
• 29:57
  SPEAKER_02: We're talking about Tyson Bajing going on the road who hasn't started a road game since 2024 or 23, I believe.
• 30:08
  SPEAKER_02: So we we're talking about three years here.
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_02: So let's let's keep everything in perspective, let's keep it all in perspective.
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_02: But I think the Bears can go into Lambeau and win this football game.
• 30:21
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, AJ, those are gonna be tough conditions.
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_03: Um to uh you know, especially for a guy with inexperience, you know, you're gonna have a lot of crowd noise.
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_03: You know, the Green Bay fans are gonna be high, especially early on.
• 30:36
  SPEAKER_03: So they're gonna have to be crisp in the communication, right?
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_03: Because one of the things that played the Bears in the first game that kind of disappeared was all the pre-snap penalties and stuff like that.
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_03: And crowd noise can generate pre-snap penalties, right?
• 30:52
  SPEAKER_03: Because you can't the players can't hear the snap, predominantly the lion can't hear it, right?
• 30:57
  SPEAKER_03: Because the the receivers actually just looking at the snap of the ball.
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_03: But sometimes, you know, you get the false stars, or sometimes you get the illegal procedures right because, or two men in motion because of the noise.
• 31:09
  SPEAKER_03: So they've I'm sure the bears are working with a lot of silent count and stuff like that.
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_03: It's gonna be a lot of silent count this week.
• 31:15
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's gonna be a lot of silent count this week.
• 31:18
  SPEAKER_02: And and yeah, and uh Ben talked about it.
• 31:21
  SPEAKER_02: Tyson Bajer talked about it this week.
• 31:23
  SPEAKER_02: He was like, you know, we've worked on these types of things throughout OTAs, throughout training camp, because they knew, you know, going on the road, it's it's hostile.
• 31:34
  SPEAKER_02: The bears carry a hostile environment on the road, especially and not this particular game.
• 31:41
  SPEAKER_02: Because one thing I can say, you ain't gonna see a bear takeover in at Lambeau Field.
• 31:50
  SPEAKER_02: It's not happening, it's not happening.
• 31:52
  SPEAKER_02: You know, uh last week, um I'm sorry, uh the Philly gang.
• 31:58
  SPEAKER_02: The Philly gang, we went to sold the field.
• 32:00
  SPEAKER_02: We walked up to our seats, and the whole row behind us was all Philadelphia Eagle fans.
• 32:06
  SPEAKER_02: And we looking like, what the hell just happened?
• 32:10
  SPEAKER_02: So now, of course, we sit in that section, we waiting on the Bears fans that's these season ticket holders that sold their darn seats.
• 32:18
  SPEAKER_02: We're gonna be like, I can't believe y'all sold y'all's seats to all these damn fans.
• 32:23
  SPEAKER_02: You're not gonna see that, you're not gonna see that in Lambo.
• 32:27
  SPEAKER_02: You're gonna you're gonna see a handful of Bears fans in Lambeau, but it ain't gonna be no takeover like it's gonna be next week in Atlanta or the way it was in Carolina.
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_02: You're not gonna see that.
• 32:38
  SPEAKER_02: So this they're gonna have to keep it tight, and it's gonna have to be on the silent.
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_02: A lot of this stuff is gonna be on the silent count because it's gonna be a hostile environment for a backup quarterback that hasn't started the game on the road since 2023.
• 32:54
  SPEAKER_03: Hey, JJ, um, you with this rival, you you have to if it's some kind of way, man, you know, to get these guys, and I know they feeling the rival because it's came up to some of them really, and being really making guys feel it, but I'm thinking about man, this rival is so back at it again, right?
• 33:16
  SPEAKER_03: Because it wasn't a rival for a while.
• 33:19
  SPEAKER_03: One of the things is I've never seen a quarterback talk that talk like that, right?
• 33:25
  SPEAKER_03: Where he literally Aaron Rodgers said, I own you.
• 33:28
  SPEAKER_03: You know, like stuff that we will be talking that kind of stuff, like the us, right?
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_03: The fans, we'd be like, Man, we own this team or whatever, right?
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_03: But the players don't usually gonna verbalize that, especially a quarterback.
• 33:40
  SPEAKER_03: So, man, you know, the Bears players got to even look at hey, no matter he ain't on this team.
• 33:46
  SPEAKER_03: What they say, sins of your father.
• 33:47
  SPEAKER_03: Well, Jordan Love is the sins of your father.
• 33:49
  SPEAKER_03: I know that's not his father for real.
• 33:51
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but yeah, but yeah, we we we gotta be like, hey man, you know what?
• 33:55
  SPEAKER_03: We sorry, man.
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_03: We we gotta, we, we gotta, we gotta rough you up, man.
• 33:59
  SPEAKER_03: But you know what?
• 34:00
  SPEAKER_03: Going back on the looking at some of these recent games and recent years, if you even go back to the flu's era the last year, he was here.
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_03: It was just so bad.
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_03: Coaching where it's crazy.
• 34:11
  SPEAKER_03: We should actually beat them twice that year.
• 34:13
  SPEAKER_03: And uh, we should we should actually, I think it was twice we should have beat him.
• 34:18
  SPEAKER_03: And I think we gave up block field goals, some other crazy stuff for doing this time.
• 34:22
  SPEAKER_03: But anyway, it they that I think Matt, what's his name?
• 34:27
  SPEAKER_03: Uh Matt LaFlor.
• 34:29
  SPEAKER_03: Matt Nett um Matt LaFloyd, the Packers coach, he's starting to face um, it's funny because they is it was some talk about him last year.
• 34:38
  SPEAKER_03: People kind of upset, but they extended him uh after the season over.
• 34:43
  SPEAKER_03: But I think that from the fans are starting to get a little disgruntled.
• 34:46
  SPEAKER_03: Now, one thing about a place like this, this is the only team in the NFL that I'm aware of that is publicly owned.
• 34:55
  SPEAKER_03: So those contracts, when it's publicly owned, not that I'm saying anything will happen to them, they they they're not as you know binding, if I would say they may say, hey, even though we ain't just started this, a public owned company may be like the fan base is getting upset about it.
• 35:16
  SPEAKER_03: So um, well love to see him make some dumb decisions because I swear on the floor, he makes some questionable decisions when the games start getting tight.
• 35:25
  SPEAKER_03: Man, you're like, What are you thinking?
• 35:30
  SPEAKER_02: Well, you know, you know, as as I look at this upcoming game on Sunday, press reburst pipes.
• 35:36
  SPEAKER_02: I say it all the time.
• 35:38
  SPEAKER_02: You know, when when your team is legitimately winning and you're not riddled with injuries, and you're able to kind of like flow your way through a game because you got this talent on offense and you got this talent on defense, your coaching decisions don't look as flawed, but when you have to make these real big coaching decisions, it can get skewed, and then that's what people look at it like oh, okay, Michael Parsons ain't here, Josh Jacobs ain't here.
• 36:17
  SPEAKER_02: So not a coach has to be able to put players in positions to win football games now.
• 36:26
  SPEAKER_02: Because they running game is dead last in the NFL, if not dead last, it's 28th or 29th.
• 36:35
  SPEAKER_02: They run defense is 28th or 29th in the NFL.
• 36:39
  SPEAKER_02: Now that's when you focus on okay, what is the coach doing to make this team better?
• 36:48
  SPEAKER_02: And because now they are in the position that they're in, because they should basically be one and three.
• 36:55
  SPEAKER_02: You know, they pulled out that Tampa Bay game on the heels of them being able to make a play against a team that was injured, so now the focus shifts from the team to the coach, and that's where from last year, when they melted down against the Bears and they melted down in the playoffs, and a few other games they melted down in in the fourth quarter.
• 37:26
  SPEAKER_02: Now everybody's starting to look at the coach and not looking at the talent on the field.
• 37:31
  SPEAKER_02: But Sunday, Jordan Love, as people talk about him being this player that they think he is.
• 37:42
  SPEAKER_02: This is your time, Jordan Love, to step up and be a leader and be the team.
• 37:51
  SPEAKER_02: Can he do it?
• 37:52
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 37:53
  SPEAKER_02: Does he have the weapons?
• 37:55
  SPEAKER_02: Tucker Kraft is back from injury.
• 37:58
  SPEAKER_02: Your running game is not that impressive.
• 38:00
  SPEAKER_02: You know, you got Christian Waston, you got Matthew Golden, who's playing well.
• 38:05
  SPEAKER_02: They lost one of their uh uh uh they lost one of their wide receivers uh last week for the year.
• 38:14
  SPEAKER_02: Uh I want to say it wasn't Ontavian Wicks, but it was Jordan Reed, I believe.
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_02: I think that's his name.
• 38:20
  SPEAKER_02: So, but you got you got some skilled players.
• 38:24
  SPEAKER_02: So this is the Jordan Love game, and you and you if if you want to save the Packers season and possibly Matt LaFleur's job, which I don't know if it's gonna be in Jeopardy, but the people are calling for his head right now.
• 38:39
  SPEAKER_02: This is the Jordan Love game, and Ben Johnson and B DA Dennis Allen, he should know that he should know that they they they may come out to attack in the air because they the ground game is not moving, so it's gonna be interesting to see how this plays out.
• 39:04
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it it it it's it it's always gonna it's always gonna be a high power game.
• 39:11
  SPEAKER_03: And you know, one of the things when you're playing a division opponents, I don't care how bad that division opponent he uh is or how good that division opponent is, based across the league.
• 39:24
  SPEAKER_03: Sometimes are the hardest games because that's the team that's seeing you twice a year and they're seeing you every year.
• 39:32
  SPEAKER_03: And so, like if you have the same coach, stuff like that, they kind of know that the tendencies because you know I'm just thinking about like the Pittsburgh still is the division.
• 39:41
  SPEAKER_03: There's been some awful years, for example, with Cleveland, you know, forever, right?
• 39:47
  SPEAKER_03: And somehow Cleveland would be Pittsburgh, sometimes they would beat the Ravens, you know, and sometimes they would be the only few ways they would have.
• 39:55
  SPEAKER_03: So this is not a game that you the point I'm making is you don't you don't take this rivalry like you go in there and you put hey, you know what?
• 40:04
  SPEAKER_03: You put the pedal to the metal, and if you you know, and you can't afford to make no mistakes, you you know to win this game, the keys to this game, you're gonna go in and you're gonna go to your strength.
• 40:16
  SPEAKER_03: Your strength is running the ball, you know, run the ball until they make you not run the ball.
• 40:22
  SPEAKER_03: And when you don't run the ball, you're setting up something from play action off the pass.
• 40:28
  SPEAKER_03: And I noticed this week uh Ben Johnson gave almost kind of like a public.
• 40:37
  SPEAKER_03: I'm trying to think of the word, but anyway, he was talking about Tyson Bajan taking too many first-level throws in the Jets game.
• 40:44
  SPEAKER_03: Christian talked about it last night.
• 40:46
  SPEAKER_03: So if you did not see the two-minute drill uh on this network, please go back and watch the two-minute drill.
• 40:53
  SPEAKER_03: One of the things Christian brought up is you know, I'm not being up to speed.
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_03: So maybe some of the second-level throws, he maybe don't feel comfortable with it all the time, right?
• 41:05
  SPEAKER_03: Because he did throw that 1D route.
• 41:07
  SPEAKER_03: But you know what?
• 41:07
  SPEAKER_03: As a backup quarterback, no matter how much people talk, when you're the backup quarterback, one of the things the backup quarterback wants to do is not make that many mistakes because they know their role is if they play good enough for a secure win, their future may not be exactly at the team that they're on at the current time, but it could be on another team.
• 41:33
  SPEAKER_03: So they're not gonna sometimes take those like risky throws that they think are risky, they're gonna play it close to the vest.
• 41:40
  SPEAKER_03: So I expect Tyson Bayes and Page to go in this game.
• 41:44
  SPEAKER_03: And I do you know they're gonna set them up some some some deep balls because one thing the Bears cannot have is you can't have eight-minute drives constantly in this game, other than you just trying to burn the clock.
• 41:56
  SPEAKER_03: But the problem is if you had those long drives like that, if you don't get nothing out of them, you just burn time, right?
• 42:03
  SPEAKER_03: Because that's why that game doesn't kind of make sense, right?
• 42:06
  SPEAKER_03: If you had the ball 42 minutes, you you usually gonna have, I mean, that's unusual, period.
• 42:12
  SPEAKER_03: And you're on 89 plays, that you should have definitely more points than that, but just because you really didn't have any big plays and you really didn't have stuff going to the end zone.
• 42:21
  SPEAKER_02: What you got to check?
• 42:23
  SPEAKER_02: And I think in Tyson Bajer's defense and in his defense, last week was his first game starting, and he he was just trying to get comfortable.
• 42:33
  SPEAKER_02: I think those second-level throws because he he had a few second-level throws.
• 42:39
  SPEAKER_02: If you watch the all 22, you'd be like, Oh, this dude was wow, oh man.
• 42:44
  SPEAKER_02: He didn't want to make those throws, he wasn't comfortable making those throws.
• 42:48
  SPEAKER_02: But now that he's got that game under his belt with another full week of practice, I think he'll be able to hold the ball just for that half a millisecond and be able to not concentrate on hitting that hitting that short route, but being able to go down the field.
• 43:09
  SPEAKER_02: So, you know, because it was it was his first week starting, you know, and his first start, you know, I I kind of give him that.
• 43:16
  SPEAKER_02: Like, yeah, you missed some second-level throws that could have been made, but uh another week under his belt, I think he's gonna be okay with those throws.
• 43:27
  SPEAKER_03: Right, right, right.
• 43:28
  SPEAKER_03: And like the coach said, you know, he just had the confidence to pull the trigger, right?
• 43:33
  SPEAKER_03: Said, you know, it makes sense, man.
• 43:36
  SPEAKER_03: You know, us as fam, of course we're gonna be ragging you right because look, man, we the bears at a standard that we're gonna start at.
• 43:44
  SPEAKER_03: You open the season with 59 points, man.
• 43:47
  SPEAKER_03: So you you got a sport, man.
• 43:49
  SPEAKER_03: It's like you anything that I know we ain't gonna get the 59 points in every and you know, it probably never gets to say never may not get none of the season, but you actually show the Potential that you could score.
• 44:02
  SPEAKER_03: And what you've actually shown in these games, other than the Vikings game, which is real bad weather, we even know in the game where Case Kennel played, you almost looked at that game that there was like maybe a two touchdowns or so that were.
• 44:16
  SPEAKER_03: In fact, if you look at the Vikings game, they left about three touchdowns on the field, right?
• 44:20
  SPEAKER_03: Even in that way.
• 44:21
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 44:21
  SPEAKER_02: So right.
• 44:22
  SPEAKER_02: So as fans, we can always look at what was left on the field.
• 44:26
  SPEAKER_02: But I just want to say, real quick, just going back to that Carolina game, man.
• 44:31
  SPEAKER_02: Carolina looked pretty darn good right now.
• 44:34
  SPEAKER_02: They do.
• 44:34
  SPEAKER_02: Bryce Young, Bryce Young has really, really stepped up as in looking like a first-round overall draft pick.
• 44:45
  SPEAKER_02: He really has stepped up.
• 44:46
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, you know, I can't base it off the competition.
• 44:51
  SPEAKER_02: I can only go on his performances right now.
• 44:54
  SPEAKER_02: And he he leads the league in passing yards right now.
• 44:57
  SPEAKER_02: So I just wanted to give him a shout out real quick because uh in that Carolina game, they scored what 37 points in that game.
• 45:06
  SPEAKER_02: Uh so it's it's it's it's been a wacky NFL.
• 45:12
  SPEAKER_02: I'm and I'm getting off the bears real quick, but it's been a wacky season so far through five weeks.
• 45:21
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, look at the Atlanta Falcons.
• 45:23
  SPEAKER_02: People, we wrote them off for dead.
• 45:26
  SPEAKER_02: And you said Thursday night or last Thursday night, you you text us like, hey, that Atlanta.
• 45:37
  SPEAKER_02: So you know, Michael Phoenix, who was in the draft class with Caleb, you know, he's back healthy now, and him and his weapons on offense is really showing up.
• 45:49
  SPEAKER_02: So it's it's a wacky season, man.
• 45:52
  SPEAKER_02: You know, the team that everybody just gave the trophy to uh in the Los Angeles Rams, I think they two and two.
• 45:58
  SPEAKER_02: So I mean, you know, this that's why they play the games.
• 46:03
  SPEAKER_02: That's why they play the games.
• 46:09
  SPEAKER_03: That's uh I saw him after the game, I believe it was this Monday, I think it was Monday night.
• 46:15
  SPEAKER_03: And he and he they asked him about I think it was Monday night game, but anyway, he he was talking about when he got benched, and he said he got in his car, and he, I forget which destination he put, but he he just said, I think he said Alana or something, and he just started driving.
• 46:36
  SPEAKER_03: And he was talking about how upset he was that he had got benched because he hadn't always been the starter, he had been a starter, you know, from youth football and all that.
• 46:47
  SPEAKER_03: But that is a great example of why young quarterbacks have to be given a chance.
• 46:54
  SPEAKER_03: And I always say this it's better starting off slow versus come out with gun blazing as a rookie.
• 47:03
  SPEAKER_03: Because if you start off, I'm gonna say you CJ or something, you come out and you look perfect or Jaden Daniels, then correct, then even that player may feel that they they got it.
• 47:16
  SPEAKER_03: This is easy, right?
• 47:17
  SPEAKER_03: This was just like college.
• 47:19
  SPEAKER_03: Then they start seeing teams get more tape on them, and then now the sophomore season is going down.
• 47:24
  SPEAKER_03: So guys like him, Caleb, um, you know, where people might just say, ah, we don't know, right?
• 47:32
  SPEAKER_03: Those guys are ascending, versus you looking at guys like uh CJ, he's descending, and they still haven't even won a game yet.
• 47:43
  SPEAKER_03: Which is amazing.
• 47:45
  SPEAKER_03: Well, yeah, they they they make him a guy.
• 47:47
  SPEAKER_03: Almost feel like, man, I and I like that coach, uh DeMarco, man.
• 47:51
  SPEAKER_03: I'm like, man, they may be trying to get him on a hot seat, man.
• 47:54
  SPEAKER_02: They don't get things and you know it's amazing that you mentioned that because I know we've talked about it here on this show and and through text messages and all that, how we talk about you know, people judge these quarterbacks so differently.
• 48:11
  SPEAKER_02: You know, when Bryce Young got drafted at one and CJ Stroud got drafted at two, CJ Stroud had that good rookie year, and everybody was like, Oh, the Panthers made the wrong decision.
• 48:22
  SPEAKER_02: They should have drafted uh they should have drafted CJ instead of Bryce Young.
• 48:26
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, prime example.
• 48:28
  SPEAKER_02: Caleb got drafted number one, Jaden Daniels got drafted number two.
• 48:33
  SPEAKER_02: Jaden Daniels went to the NFC Championship game, and I'm gonna always call his name Chris Canti from ESPN.
• 48:40
  SPEAKER_02: All he talked about was the best got it wrong, the best got it wrong.
• 48:43
  SPEAKER_02: They said Jaden Daniels is this, Jaden Daniels is this.
• 48:47
  SPEAKER_02: Now, oh my, how the tables have turned.
• 48:51
  SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
• 48:52
  SPEAKER_02: CJ Stroud had a brilliant freshman uh rookie year, and he has struggled ever since.
• 49:00
  SPEAKER_02: Jaden Daniels, which is what you always said.
• 49:03
  SPEAKER_02: I'm concerned about this dude, he can't stay healthy.
• 49:07
  SPEAKER_02: This dude cannot stay healthy.
• 49:08
  SPEAKER_02: Had a brilliant, brilliant rookie season, took his team to the NFC Championship game, but you cannot judge these players, especially quarterbacks, on their first year.
• 49:19
  SPEAKER_02: You got to give them at least three years before you want to redraft that draft class.
• 49:27
  SPEAKER_02: And and it's amazing because man, Bryce Young.
• 49:31
  SPEAKER_02: When I tell you, Bryce Young probably right now is the most improved quarterback in the NFL right now.
• 49:36
  SPEAKER_02: Just looking at him play, I'm I'm I'm just fascinated.
• 49:40
  SPEAKER_02: I'm fascinated by his play right now.
• 49:43
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, you know, I'm happy for him.
• 49:45
  SPEAKER_03: And you know what else I'm happy for?
• 49:47
  SPEAKER_03: Man, our guy with practicing this week, man.
• 49:51
  SPEAKER_03: Caleb, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 49:53
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
• 49:55
  SPEAKER_03: I can't wait to get back.
• 49:56
  SPEAKER_03: I don't want him to get back in the in the after two if he's not helped because these guys are are holding it down.
• 50:04
  SPEAKER_03: But I'm definitely excited about getting Caleb Rams back.
• 50:08
  SPEAKER_03: Man, you know, that's crazy, Jay.
• 50:10
  SPEAKER_03: That is crazy that we actually are excited about a bass quarterback coming off of injury.
• 50:17
  SPEAKER_03: Man, we didn't have years where a quarterback would get injured, and then we'd be in our mind at the fan base because the play would be so bad.
• 50:25
  SPEAKER_03: We would elevate a backup as the backup quarterback.
• 50:28
  SPEAKER_03: He needs to get in there.
• 50:29
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, then that backup gets in there.
• 50:31
  SPEAKER_03: We'd be like, Man, what that third streak got look like?
• 50:34
  SPEAKER_02: I remember I remember when Jay Cutler got hurt and Brian Hoya came in and won the Bears a game like 10 to 6 or something like that.
• 50:40
  SPEAKER_02: Everybody's like, Brian Hoyer's the next cut it out, cut it out.
• 50:45
  SPEAKER_02: Cut it out, yeah.
• 50:46
  SPEAKER_02: But uh we gotta pull this to those guys.
• 50:49
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but uh Caleb took some snaps this week.
• 50:52
  SPEAKER_02: He listed, he's listed as I believe questionable on the uh on the injury on the injury report this week.
• 50:59
  SPEAKER_02: Uh so if we can go into Lambeau and get a win, we go to Atlanta next week.
• 51:06
  SPEAKER_02: And I think if he can come back for that following week, which I believe is the Thursday night game against the Patriots, I believe, then I think that would be good for him.
• 51:20
  SPEAKER_02: Because with a hamstring, especially if especially if you if your team winning, with a hamstring, you don't want to rush it because you're never gonna know if a hamstring is 100% until you actually playing in the game.
• 51:32
  SPEAKER_02: You can do all the stretching, all the warming up, you can do all of that, and your hamstring can feel good, but you won't know until you're actually in game mode in a game if your hamstring is 100%.
• 51:46
  SPEAKER_02: So no need to rush it right now.
• 51:49
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, you know, let me bring this on the screen some of the programming that we got on this uh uh Baz Battle Talk Show Network, you know.
• 51:59
  SPEAKER_03: Uh next shows BBTS sports network.
• 52:03
  SPEAKER_03: Let me put us over to the side.
• 52:06
  SPEAKER_03: Uh man, I think the way I did this Jay is actually going to show on the screen.
• 52:12
  SPEAKER_03: So let me let me pull that off because this is actually showing in the back of us, like with uh background.
• 52:19
  SPEAKER_03: Let me see if I got to save it here some some other way.
• 52:22
  SPEAKER_03: But anyway, on this network, we have of course this show, Bears Battle Talk Show, which primarily is on Fridays at 7:30.
• 52:32
  SPEAKER_03: Then we have um um Badge Battle Talk Show, which comes on the game.
• 52:39
  SPEAKER_03: Then on Tuesday, we have the we have uh out of bounds with Dr.
• 52:44
  SPEAKER_03: Quick, and his show is growing.
• 52:47
  SPEAKER_03: And Christian uh Christian Jones, the two-minute drill, which is actually in, I believe, his third season on this network.
• 52:55
  SPEAKER_03: Man, his show is taking off, bro.
• 52:58
  SPEAKER_03: Man, I'm I'm looking at his views from uh last night, man.
• 53:03
  SPEAKER_03: Hey, Christian, keep up the good work, man.
• 53:05
  SPEAKER_03: I got a couple people, man, that's like, you know, we'll talk, man, but man, keep keep up the good work, and then we have uh past the pool picks and come in on Saturday.
• 53:16
  SPEAKER_03: We talks about fantasy football, and that's that show is building up his momentum too.
• 53:20
  SPEAKER_03: But Jay, man, we miss it, we miss some of our guys tonight.
• 53:23
  SPEAKER_03: I know quick using referee games on Fridays, playing at a family matter.
• 53:30
  SPEAKER_03: Guy had you know some business to take care of, but even when they're not here, guy always gonna be here with the two for two, two for two for two.
• 53:39
  SPEAKER_03: Two for two, man.
• 53:41
  SPEAKER_03: Jay Jay.
• 53:44
  SPEAKER_03: The two for two for those who knew it.
• 53:47
  SPEAKER_03: We picked the two best teams coming into which will be what week five, and we we picked the two worst teams, and then we pick a game of the week.
• 53:56
  SPEAKER_03: Now, I since I'm just running from Rob right now, Jay.
• 53:59
  SPEAKER_03: I gotta start off.
• 54:00
  SPEAKER_03: Man, the bottom two, man, it has to be the charges, but you just have one no game, you just ain't won no games.
• 54:08
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, it's just it's not it's no way to put it put it, man.
• 54:12
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, how about maybe on the I see?
• 54:14
  SPEAKER_03: And you and you got the quarterback.
• 54:16
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, I get you know, you're supposed to have do they got a quarterback?
• 54:22
  SPEAKER_03: But that's that's what everybody's saying.
• 54:24
  SPEAKER_03: That's what everybody said.
• 54:26
  SPEAKER_03: Justin Herbert is yeah, man, but he came with a playoff game.
• 54:30
  SPEAKER_03: Some years he don't even make the playoffs, but he did, man.
• 54:36
  SPEAKER_03: The other team is gonna have to be.
• 54:39
  SPEAKER_03: Man, I'm I'm still going back and forth about it, but I'm gonna go with Houston.
• 54:42
  SPEAKER_03: Not Houston.
• 54:44
  SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna go it has to be either Houston or Tennessee at this point.
• 54:51
  SPEAKER_03: I think that's who I'm gonna go with.
• 54:53
  SPEAKER_03: But anyway, my top two, man.
• 54:55
  SPEAKER_03: You know what?
• 54:56
  SPEAKER_03: It's crazy, Jay, because there are some teams that are really playing some good football.
• 55:00
  SPEAKER_03: I'm just gonna go out on the limb this week and just pick somebody different that I expect to be doing this good.
• 55:05
  SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna say the Raiders.
• 55:06
  SPEAKER_03: I didn't expect the Raiders to be doing this good.
• 55:10
  SPEAKER_03: And the other one, which there's no way I think these two teams are the best, too.
• 55:14
  SPEAKER_03: I'm just picking them just to get them some kudos, breaking the format.
• 55:17
  SPEAKER_03: The other team has to be the Giants.
• 55:20
  SPEAKER_03: I cannot believe they win in game.
• 55:23
  SPEAKER_03: Wow, as much as it's what you call it, is turn the James Winston is turning the ball over.
• 55:29
  SPEAKER_03: I can't start to believe that they're actually three and one.
• 55:33
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, and lead and leading the NFC East at three and one.
• 55:38
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, three and one.
• 55:42
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna go uh I'm gonna go basic with the bad and the good.
• 55:48
  SPEAKER_02: And right now, the bad, I I gotta put the charges down there.
• 55:52
  SPEAKER_02: I gotta put the charges down there, and they're not even the worst 0-14, but they're bad.
• 56:01
  SPEAKER_02: The chargers are bad, and you know, people talk about coaches that need to be on the hot seat.
• 56:07
  SPEAKER_02: Jim Harbaugh needs to be on the hot seat because according to most experts, they have a ton of talent, but they haven't won no games.
• 56:17
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm gonna go with the Chargers, and as I'm tired of picking on Tennessee, so I'm not gonna pick on Tennessee.
• 56:25
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm gonna pick on the Miami Dolphins because they're bad too.
• 56:29
  SPEAKER_02: The Miami Dolphins are bad, they are they are terrible, they are terrible, you know.
• 56:34
  SPEAKER_02: Jim Hafley, who's a first year coach, you know, coming over from Green Bay as they defensive coordinator, you know, he got Malik Willis out of there to come, you know, quarterback his team, but they're bad.
• 56:46
  SPEAKER_02: They're bad.
• 56:47
  SPEAKER_02: And I don't want to get team kudos because they're winning games, although I do like the Raiders.
• 56:53
  SPEAKER_02: I do like the Raiders.
• 56:55
  SPEAKER_02: I like what Kirk Cousins is doing with Brock Bowers over there and and Aston Aston Genty, and and they doing that they doing pretty good, but the San Francisco 49ers, man, they they 4-0.
• 57:11
  SPEAKER_02: Cal Shanahan is Shanahan.
• 57:15
  SPEAKER_02: He's doing what he does with all the and you know, we talk about these teams with injuries, with all the injuries.
• 57:22
  SPEAKER_02: Can you name one starting wide receiver right now for the San Francisco 49ers?
• 57:29
  SPEAKER_02: And they 4-0.
• 57:32
  SPEAKER_02: They 4-0.
• 57:33
  SPEAKER_02: So I gotta give it to them.
• 57:35
  SPEAKER_02: And what Patrick Mahomes is doing coming off of NCL right now, he's 4-0.
• 57:41
  SPEAKER_02: You know, they got K9, who's has almost 600 yards rushing in in five games.
• 57:51
  SPEAKER_02: The Bears lead the league in rushing right now, and Kansas City is number two.
• 57:56
  SPEAKER_02: But the Bears lead the league in rushing with two running backs, and Kansas City is second in rushing with just one.
• 58:06
  SPEAKER_02: So that lets you know Patrick Mahomes is over there now with a running game, doing some phenomenal things, man.
• 58:15
  SPEAKER_02: So those are my top two teams for this week.
• 58:19
  SPEAKER_03: I I know those are the two top teams, you know, but I just didn't want to keep every week saying for the 40.
• 58:28
  SPEAKER_02: But I like the Raiders though.
• 58:29
  SPEAKER_02: I you know what I like, I like the Raiders.
• 58:31
  SPEAKER_02: I like the Raiders and I like the Giants as well because you're talking about two teams that nobody talked about in August or July.
• 58:42
  SPEAKER_02: You know, these teams were just teams for both of them to be in the hunt right now is good.
• 58:49
  SPEAKER_03: Let me let me let me say this one thing.
• 58:50
  SPEAKER_03: I know we closed in time of shutting down, and so we brought up the two best teams.
• 58:55
  SPEAKER_03: I know there's a whole lot of dislike in hate for matter of fact.
• 59:02
  SPEAKER_03: My my battery, I'm out of town.
• 59:04
  SPEAKER_03: I ain't got my charger, Jay.
• 59:05
  SPEAKER_03: It just popped on the screen telling me uh I'm about to go into low battery mode.
• 59:11
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, okay.
• 59:12
  SPEAKER_02: Well, we got about a minute.
• 59:13
  SPEAKER_02: We got about a minute, so we can get it going.
• 59:16
  SPEAKER_03: So so I will say this, man.
• 59:19
  SPEAKER_03: Brock Purdy, that's the point I was about to make.
• 59:21
  SPEAKER_03: Brock Purdy is playing some good football.
• 59:24
  SPEAKER_03: MVP football.
• 59:25
  SPEAKER_03: He played some good football last year.
• 59:27
  SPEAKER_03: I know he missed quite a few games last year.
• 59:29
  SPEAKER_02: MVP football.
• 59:30
  SPEAKER_03: If you just dislike Brock Purdy, that's fine if you just dislike him.
• 59:33
  SPEAKER_03: But to pretend like Jack Brock Purdy is not a heck of a quarterback.
• 59:38
  SPEAKER_03: You're doing some disservice.
• 59:39
  SPEAKER_03: That's the point I want to make.
• 59:41
  SPEAKER_03: Brock Purdy is playing some good football.
• 59:44
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, right now he's my front.
• 59:47
  SPEAKER_02: He's my front runner for MVP right now.
• 59:50
  SPEAKER_02: He's definitely my front runner for MVP.
• 59:53
  SPEAKER_02: But to give a prediction, right now, I'm gonna say the bears are gonna eat one out.
• 1:00:03
  SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna say 21 17.
• 1:00:08
  SPEAKER_02: 2117.
• 1:00:09
  SPEAKER_02: 2117.
• 1:00:11
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, I have uh guy was able to give me his prediction.
• 1:00:15
  SPEAKER_03: Guy has the bears 3017.
• 1:00:18
  SPEAKER_03: I was trying to see if I got Planks prediction.
• 1:00:20
  SPEAKER_03: I don't think I got Planks prediction, uh quicks.
• 1:00:24
  SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna go with a squeaker too.
• 1:00:27
  SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna go.
• 1:00:28
  SPEAKER_03: I don't think this is gonna be uh real high score, but I do think it's gonna be the league average.
• 1:00:33
  SPEAKER_03: I think this game will be something like uh 2023, 23, Bass 23, Green Bay 20.
• 1:00:41
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, but this is a low margin of uh victory in this game, man.
• 1:00:48
  SPEAKER_03: But I'm looking forward to this, man, because I don't want to go to work, and you know, man, we got a couple Packer fans, man, there and man, I won't wear it.
• 1:01:01
  SPEAKER_03: I noticed, yeah, but I noticed last year they wouldn't wearing a gift.
• 1:01:09
  SPEAKER_03: They just kind of looked at me, kind of like ducked their head, right?
• 1:01:14
  SPEAKER_03: But it was the same people over the years that would see me because I always wear my bass gear, right?
• 1:01:19
  SPEAKER_03: Or something, they'd be like, Oh, but now you still chin for that busted tea, right?
• 1:01:23
  SPEAKER_03: They just be saying something, I will suck it up, right?
• 1:01:26
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, y'all got us now.
• 1:01:27
  SPEAKER_03: When you know the last year, so they ain't wearing no pack of beer, they dunked me.
• 1:01:34
  SPEAKER_02: It's different now, you know.
• 1:01:36
  SPEAKER_02: You know, the times have changed.
• 1:01:38
  SPEAKER_02: You know, it's it's the sifted a little bit, it's the sifted a little bit, but again, like I say, decades to pack of trauma.
• 1:01:46
  SPEAKER_02: Anytime you're able to get on the right side of it, it's a good thing.
• 1:01:51
  SPEAKER_02: It's a good thing.
• 1:01:53
  SPEAKER_03: So I'm looking forward to it.
• 1:01:55
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so hey, just as we wrap up, hey, Jay is three and one, plain three and one, quick three and one.
• 1:02:03
  SPEAKER_03: Me and guy both are two and two.
• 1:02:05
  SPEAKER_03: This is as far as you know how we selected who was gonna win and who was not gonna win by next week.
• 1:02:12
  SPEAKER_03: I have that on the board or you know, just playing every week to see who who's gonna be the king this year, the wins and losses, right?
• 1:02:22
  SPEAKER_03: Right, right, right.
• 1:02:22
  SPEAKER_03: Hey Jay, did you got anything else before we uh shut down for tonight?
• 1:02:26
  SPEAKER_02: No, that's it.
• 1:02:27
  SPEAKER_02: Just looking forward to the game, and I will see y'all on Sunday right after the game.
• 1:02:32
  SPEAKER_02: I and I I can say real quick before I go, I'm mad because they flexed this game because this was a 325 game, which would have been a lot better than a 12 o'clock game, but it's okay, it's all good.
• 1:02:43
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, I'm with you on that, Jay.
• 1:02:46
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• 1:03:33
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• 1:03:36
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