Latest / The Breakfast Club / How to Keep Them From Taking Your Money — Part Two with The Student Loan Doctor
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- 0:05Speaker 1: Today on Front page, Part two with the Student loan Doctor,
- 0:08Speaker 1: how to keep the government from taking your money and
- 0:10Speaker 1: how to avoid default.
- 0:12Speaker 2: That has to be clarified by July first as well,
- 0:15Speaker 2: where they'll start garnishing your income and your tax returns.
- 0:19Speaker 1: And the new borrowing caps on parent plus loans. Every
- 0:22Speaker 1: parent needs to hear.
- 0:24Speaker 2: But typically many black families and middle class families have
- 0:27Speaker 2: to utilize parent plus loans to close the gap for
- 0:30Speaker 2: their students.
- 0:31Speaker 1: It's Monday, June twenty second from the Black Effects Podcast Network.
- 0:35Speaker 1: I'm Nini Brown. This is Front Page. Stay with me
- 0:43Speaker 1: on Friday. In part one of my conversations with the
- 0:45Speaker 1: Student Loan Doctor Sonya Lewis, we broke down the major
- 0:48Speaker 1: student loan changes taking effect on July first, the repayment
- 0:52Speaker 1: plans are disappearing, the new plans replacing them, and what
- 0:56Speaker 1: borrowers need to know before the rules changed. If you
- 0:59Speaker 1: missed that conversation, go back and listen to part one
- 1:02Speaker 1: first on Friday, because today we're talking about what happens
- 1:06Speaker 1: when you can't pay. We're talking about wage garnishment, tax
- 1:10Speaker 1: refund seizures, and reductions to Social Security benefits. The federal
- 1:15Speaker 1: government has powerful tools to collect on defaulted student loans,
- 1:18Speaker 1: and for millions of borowers already struggling to keep up,
- 1:21Speaker 1: understanding those rules could mean the difference between staying afloat
- 1:25Speaker 1: and falling further behind. So how do you avoid default
- 1:29Speaker 1: before it happens? What should you do if you're already
- 1:32Speaker 1: in default? And what new limits on parent plus loans
- 1:35Speaker 1: could change how families pay for college. Sonya Lewis has
- 1:39Speaker 1: the answers. Here's part two of my conversation with the
- 1:42Speaker 1: student loan doctor. So if you were someone and you
- 1:50Speaker 1: were listening to this right now, give them the first
- 1:53Speaker 1: three steps. What do they need to do right now?
- 1:56Speaker 2: At extra step, take a deep breast, let's start there,
- 1:59Speaker 2: because this is a and then I would go to
- 2:01Speaker 2: do the aid doc Gov. I would log in and
- 2:03Speaker 2: I would just make sure that on my dashboard it
- 2:06Speaker 2: doesn't say that you're in default, because if if you're
- 2:08Speaker 2: in default, it'll be like a red banner that comes
- 2:11Speaker 2: up and say your loan is defaulted. But that has
- 2:13Speaker 2: to be clarified by July first as well, or they'll
- 2:16Speaker 2: start garnishing your income and your tax returns. So we
- 2:20Speaker 2: want to make sure you're not in default. Okay, now
- 2:22Speaker 2: that you're not in default, you want to get your
- 2:24Speaker 2: loan details and it will tell you a plan your
- 2:27Speaker 2: In most people, it will stay saved a lot of people.
- 2:30Speaker 2: About seven eight million people got moved there automatically. The
- 2:33Speaker 2: latest updates showed that less than a million have moved
- 2:35Speaker 2: themselves out. So this is a lot of people that
- 2:38Speaker 2: are going to need to manually do an income driven
- 2:41Speaker 2: repayment application under the long repayment tap that we just
- 2:44Speaker 2: spoke about.
- 2:45Speaker 1: You got me with default. So how does a person
- 2:50Speaker 1: find out if they are in default? Because I know
- 2:51Speaker 1: a few months ago we were talking and we were saying,
- 2:55Speaker 1: if you have you know, the Trump administration was about
- 2:59Speaker 1: to start up default. They were going to garnish your
- 3:01Speaker 1: wages and I can't kind of pause on that. So
- 3:03Speaker 1: are you saying as of July first, that is back
- 3:06Speaker 1: on as well.
- 3:07Speaker 2: Yeah. So here's the thing about default loans. This is
- 3:12Speaker 2: a chance for people to clean them up before July
- 3:15Speaker 2: first by going through rehabilitation. Sometimes they can use consolidation.
- 3:21Speaker 2: I don't speak about consolidation a lot because yes, it's
- 3:23Speaker 2: a quick fix, but it gives you a permanent record
- 3:26Speaker 2: on your credit report and your still lone report for
- 3:29Speaker 2: up to seven years, and it just really would jam
- 3:31Speaker 2: you up. So you want to go through what we
- 3:33Speaker 2: call rehabilitation. That's where you have to make nine payments
- 3:37Speaker 2: out of ten, so nine consecutive monthly payments on time
- 3:42Speaker 2: with the greed upon payment that you are going to
- 3:45Speaker 2: express through a worksheet that asks you about your income
- 3:49Speaker 2: and expenses. So anyway, when you submit this worksheet over now,
- 3:54Speaker 2: it's the collection agency job to say okay, based off
- 3:57Speaker 2: of what you say you earned and then what you
- 4:00Speaker 2: say your expenses are, it is then your job to say,
- 4:05Speaker 2: hmm okay. Their job excuse me to say, hmm, mem
- 4:09Speaker 2: it looks like she's only able to afford a fifty
- 4:12Speaker 2: dollars payment, and you want to get the payment to
- 4:15Speaker 2: be as low as possible, as low as it can
- 4:18Speaker 2: go down to as low as five dollars. The reason
- 4:20Speaker 2: why I'm explaining this is because what happens is me
- 4:23Speaker 2: me people get really encouraged like I'm taking control of
- 4:25Speaker 2: my loans. But all of that money that's being paid,
- 4:29Speaker 2: even that five dollars payment, is going to the collection
- 4:32Speaker 2: agency as an interest, never to your student loans. So
- 4:38Speaker 2: we're not trying to be superheroes here and make these
- 4:41Speaker 2: huge payments over nine months. We want a nice, affordable
- 4:45Speaker 2: payment so you can get out of default. And then me, me,
- 4:48Speaker 2: I don't care if people need to be anal and
- 4:50Speaker 2: set two reminders on the day that the payment is
- 4:53Speaker 2: due and one payment before because if you miss a payment,
- 4:56Speaker 2: you have one time to mess up with this. You
- 4:59Speaker 2: are in death. Lee in default. Now me me, people
- 5:02Speaker 2: are in an indefinite default. And indefinite default means you're
- 5:06Speaker 2: not purchasing a home. You're going to have bad credit.
- 5:09Speaker 2: It's going to affect even if you want to purchase
- 5:11Speaker 2: a house. Like these things really do impack you long term. Okay,
- 5:15Speaker 2: let me pause here. That's a lot.
- 5:17Speaker 1: That is a lot. That's a lot. You know, we've
- 5:20Speaker 1: got a lot of information unpacked there. I want to
- 5:22Speaker 1: ask you too about parents, because I know a lot
- 5:26Speaker 1: of parents take out loans trying to help their kids
- 5:28Speaker 1: go to school. How are these parents going to be
- 5:30Speaker 1: impacted by these changes now?
- 5:33Speaker 2: So parents are it's crazy. There's another two groups graduate
- 5:39Speaker 2: barbers and parents that the parent plus crisis I'd say
- 5:43Speaker 2: no one is talking about. So, you know, particularly many
- 5:46Speaker 2: black families and middle class families have to utilize parent
- 5:50Speaker 2: plus loans to close the gap for their students. And
- 5:53Speaker 2: with this administration, it's becoming so tight that when I
- 5:56Speaker 2: tell you me and me, school planning before going to
- 6:00Speaker 2: a COECH is going to have to be almost like
- 6:03Speaker 2: a sit down webinar or in person seminar at high
- 6:07Speaker 2: schools because of the lack of funding that will now
- 6:09Speaker 2: be available. So this is going to really impact parents
- 6:13Speaker 2: that are going into their middle age. They're now going
- 6:16Speaker 2: to not be able to borrow as much for their
- 6:19Speaker 2: students as they would have hoped to have borrowed to
- 6:21Speaker 2: help close the gap on that. So when we talk
- 6:25Speaker 2: about parents, let's just go back a bit. The biggest
- 6:27Speaker 2: change for parents is going to be that the borrowing
- 6:30Speaker 2: limits have significantly changed for new parent borrowers. It used
- 6:34Speaker 2: to be an unlimited amount that a parent could borrow
- 6:37Speaker 2: for their child's education, but now it's down to sixty
- 6:41Speaker 2: thousand per child, and there's so much that they can
- 6:45Speaker 2: borrow each year now. The reason why this is really
- 6:48Speaker 2: impactful is because when we already think about the aggregate
- 6:52Speaker 2: loan limits that a student can receive, you and I
- 6:55Speaker 2: don't have it right in front of you, but I
- 6:56Speaker 2: think it's like close to thirty thousand. And then you
- 6:59Speaker 2: say a parent can pay can take up to sixty. Well,
- 7:03Speaker 2: as long as we can keep a college education in
- 7:06Speaker 2: that window, we should be okay. And we're talking about
- 7:10Speaker 2: through all degrees, Mimi, a bachelor's, a master's, and a doctoral.
- 7:16Speaker 2: The problem here, Mimi, is there something called the sticky middle. Yeah.
- 7:21Speaker 2: The sticky middle is when a parent doesn't make enough
- 7:24Speaker 2: money to cash pay for their child to go to school,
- 7:28Speaker 2: but they also make enough to not receive full grants.
- 7:32Speaker 2: So this person that's in the sticky middle is relying
- 7:35Speaker 2: on something like a parent plus loan to fund their
- 7:39Speaker 2: child's education. Does that make sense? Yep?
- 7:42Speaker 1: Yep.
- 7:43Speaker 2: Then the last thing for parents that already have student loans,
- 7:46Speaker 2: they're going to need to go into studenta dot UV
- 7:48Speaker 2: and see if that loan is what's called a parent
- 7:51Speaker 2: plus consolidated loan. And the reason that's important is because
- 7:54Speaker 2: if that parent plus is not a parent plus consolidated
- 7:57Speaker 2: loan before July first, they're not able to get an
- 8:01Speaker 2: affordable repayment under an ICR plan, which will turn into
- 8:05Speaker 2: an IBr plan. All people need to know, Mini, is
- 8:09Speaker 2: is my parent plus loan if they're done with their
- 8:12Speaker 2: child being in school, is it consolidated. If it's not,
- 8:16Speaker 2: I'm going to encourage them to call their lender to
- 8:18Speaker 2: be sure to inquire if they need to consolidate their
- 8:21Speaker 2: loan Before Your Life First.
- 8:29Speaker 1: Tomorrow, in Part three, we bring it all together because
- 8:32Speaker 1: these changes aren't just affecting students. They're affecting parents, grandparents,
- 8:36Speaker 1: and anyone helping a loved one pay for college. So
- 8:39Speaker 1: if you have a student loan debt, if your child
- 8:41Speaker 1: has student loan debt, or if you've ever co signed
- 8:43Speaker 1: for someone else's education, Jamorrow's episode is for you, and
- 8:47Speaker 1: if today's conversation helps you share it, send Part one
- 8:51Speaker 1: and Part two to someone who needs to hear this
- 8:53Speaker 1: information before the rules change, because information is power, and
- 8:57Speaker 1: sometimes taking care of each other starts with making sure
- 9:00Speaker 1: your nobody is blindsided. I'm Mimi Brown. That's your front page.
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