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Dragnet: The Big Streetcar (EP5009) · The Great Detectives Present Dragnet (Old Time Radio)

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Great Detectives of Old Time Radio from Boise, Idaho.
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  Speaker 1: This is your host, Adam Graham. In a moment, we're
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  Speaker 1: That's fuel Box one five nine thirteen, Boise, Aldaho eight
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  Speaker 1: three seven one five. Now from April third, nineteen fifty two,
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  Speaker 1: here is the Big street Car.
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  Speaker 2: The story you were about to hear is true. The
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  Speaker 2: names have been changed to protect the innocent. You're a
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  Speaker 2: detective sergeant. You're assigned a homicide detail. A man is
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  Speaker 2: shot down on the street of a residential neighborhood. He's
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  Speaker 2: critically wounded. You don't know who the assailant is. You
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  Speaker 2: don't know where he is.
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  Speaker 3: Your jobey.
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  Speaker 4: The documented drama of an actual crime. Well the next
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  Speaker 4: thirty minutes, in cooperation with the Los Angeles Police.
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  Speaker 3: Department, you will travel.
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  Speaker 4: Step by step on the side of the law through
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  Speaker 4: an actual case transcribed from official police violence, from beginning
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  Speaker 4: to end, from crime to punishment. Dragnet is the story
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  Speaker 4: of your police force in action.
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  Speaker 5: January twentieth was mild in Los Angeles. We were working
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  Speaker 5: the night Watch out of homicide detail.
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  Speaker 6: My partner's Ed Jacobs. The boss is stad Brown, Chief
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  Speaker 6: of Detectives.
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  Speaker 7: My name is Friday.
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  Speaker 5: I was on the way back from dinner and it
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  Speaker 5: was nine fifty seven pm when I got back to
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  Speaker 5: the City Hall Room forty two pharmacide detail.
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  Speaker 3: All right, make it in time.
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  Speaker 7: No, they were closed up.
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  Speaker 3: It's too bad.
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  Speaker 7: Why Gee cafeteria down the street.
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  Speaker 3: I was terrible, nothing at all.
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  Speaker 6: Huh Well, I figured.
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  Speaker 5: I'd be safe for the corn beef hash even that
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  Speaker 5: wasn't much soggy, you know, probably standing all day.
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  Speaker 3: It's too bad.
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  Speaker 8: I asked Johnny if you'd stay open a couple of
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  Speaker 8: minutes late, told him you were coming right over.
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  Speaker 6: The place was closed tight. When I got there, I
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  Speaker 6: couldn't raise anybody.
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  Speaker 8: Sharp lives a really good tonight. Some great pie too,
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  Speaker 8: boys and berry best I had anyway for them.
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  Speaker 7: Say you got any of those bike car pills in
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  Speaker 7: your locker? I can sure you use one.
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  Speaker 8: I'm afraid not. You had the last one to Jeane
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  Speaker 8: Bechdel tonight. He hit at the cafeteria too. I hi,
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  Speaker 8: say any phone calls for me? Murial downstairs office called
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  Speaker 8: run you asked for They got it ready.
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  Speaker 6: It was the only call. Yeah, what is it else?
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  Speaker 6: I'm wrong? Oh?
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  Speaker 7: You've been moping around like you lost your best friend.
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  Speaker 7: What's the matter? You man at the world?
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  Speaker 6: No, just my young loss. Wife had her father and
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  Speaker 6: mother over for lunch today. The old man's getting to
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  Speaker 6: be a real pain in the neck. Don't get along
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  Speaker 6: with him, uh, I keep trying to. Doesn't seem to
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  Speaker 6: do much good. All he can think of his money.
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  Speaker 6: It's all he can talk about while.
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  Speaker 8: Let it boy, you my in law has been talking
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  Speaker 8: about it for years, forgetting you won't let you.
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  Speaker 6: And then he puts his foot inside the front door.
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  Speaker 6: It's the first thing you hear. Crusty old guy, that pipe.
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  Speaker 6: He smokes enough to knock you over.
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  Speaker 7: Why don't you duck out when they come over? Tell
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  Speaker 7: him you got a call. You have to go to work.
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  Speaker 6: The wife sounded that once. She makes me hang around,
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  Speaker 6: keeps telling me your father and mother like me. You
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  Speaker 6: never know what. The old guy's a real tyrant.
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  Speaker 2: See.
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  Speaker 6: The wife comes from a big family. Every time I
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  Speaker 6: see her, old man he has to make a point
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  Speaker 6: of telling me how smart as other sons in law?
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  Speaker 6: How much doll I'm making? Yeah, see yeah, same routine.
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  Speaker 6: Every time one of his daughter's married a carpenter, he's
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  Speaker 6: making twenty dollars a day. When I'm married a hot carrier,
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  Speaker 6: he's making twenty five dollars a day. Always ends up
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  Speaker 6: asking me how much I'm making.
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  Speaker 3: Why don't you tell himuch? Some of his business I
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  Speaker 3: did today?
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  Speaker 6: That's what started the argument. I walked out, crusty old guy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well I got it.
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  Speaker 6: Homicide fiddy, yes, black?
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  Speaker 7: Would you repeat yes, sir, I have it fine, thank you?
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  Speaker 9: Yes?
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  Speaker 7: Or right away? Shooting Kirkman near l Pine.
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  Speaker 6: Let me grab my coat.
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  Speaker 5: Nos Man down on the sidewalk, apparently hurt. Bad neighbor
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  Speaker 5: said it was a family fight. Tomorrow we better hustle
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  Speaker 5: it out.
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  Speaker 6: Let's go. That's one good thing about this job.
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  Speaker 7: What do you mean trouble?
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  Speaker 6: You don't know what it is to hear about other.
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  Speaker 5: People's Sergeant al Shambra and I go out to the scene,
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  Speaker 5: of the shooting Code three.
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  Speaker 7: Red light and siren.
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  Speaker 5: We located the victim lying on the sidewalk approximately fifty
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  Speaker 5: feet from the intersection of Kirkland Avenue and Alpine Street.
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  Speaker 5: He was a dark haired man, looked to be in
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  Speaker 5: his early forties, tan complexion, well built. He'd been shot
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  Speaker 5: several times in the chest, once in the shoulder. He
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  Speaker 5: appeared to be unconscious. A handful of curious neighbors were
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  Speaker 5: standing by. One of them, a short, bawling man, identified
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  Speaker 5: himself as Ernest. Quickly, he said he was the victim's
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  Speaker 5: next door neighbor.
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  Speaker 3: What's man's name, mister Whitley?
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  Speaker 6: Wally Radford lives right next door to me, been my
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  Speaker 6: neighbor for years.
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  Speaker 3: Where do you live?
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  Speaker 6: This apartment court right here? I live in the cottage
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  Speaker 6: next to the end when they're number eight, while he
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  Speaker 6: lives at number nine one, right in the end they're
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  Speaker 6: facing this.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah. What do you know about the shooting, mister Whitley?
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  Speaker 6: Well, I didn't have anything to do with it. I
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  Speaker 6: was watching television with a wife. I heard the shots outside.
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  Speaker 6: You can ask the wife.
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  Speaker 7: Sh'll tell you you heard the shots outside of Radford's cottage.
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  Speaker 6: Right, yeah, that's right. Where's that was to come?
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  Speaker 3: They've been notified there on the way.
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  Speaker 7: Well, who did the shooting, Whitley, would you know that?
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  Speaker 6: Well, not for sure. We were watching television, like I said,
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  Speaker 6: when I heard the shots, wife and I. At first
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  Speaker 6: I heard the shots, and then I heard somebody yell.
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  Speaker 6: I thought it was some high school kids in a
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  Speaker 6: hot rod or something, you know, horse around outside. My
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  Speaker 6: wife told me to get up and take a look anyway,
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  Speaker 6: so I did.
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  Speaker 7: On the way to the door, I.
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  Speaker 6: Heard another shot, and then somebody yelled out again like
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  Speaker 6: they were hurt. Must have been six or seven shots anyway.
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  Speaker 6: Just as I opened the door, I saw Wally go
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  Speaker 6: running fast. I didn't know what was coming off. He
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  Speaker 6: ran right out toward the street here weaving back and forth.
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  Speaker 6: Looked like it had a couple of drinks. I didn't
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  Speaker 6: know what it was.
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  Speaker 3: You didn't see the actual shooting. You didn't see anyone
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  Speaker 3: with a gun?
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  Speaker 6: Oh No, The only one I saw was Wally. He
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  Speaker 6: ran right by me, holding his hands up to his chest.
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  Speaker 6: I yelled to him, but he didn't stop. I didn't
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  Speaker 6: know if he was drunk or what. When he got
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  Speaker 6: out here to the sidewalk. I saw him fall down.
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  Speaker 6: I went after him. It's terrible, say either one. You
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  Speaker 6: got to smoke. Yeah, look I'm still shaking like a leaf.
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  Speaker 6: There you go, swell, thank you.
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  Speaker 7: All the life.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, please, you're welcome.
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  Speaker 7: Was Radford still conscious when you reached him, you.
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  Speaker 6: Know, just about? Yeah? I don't know how many times
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  Speaker 6: he was shot. He was rolling around on the ground.
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  Speaker 6: Pain was terrible. The whole front of his shirt was
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  Speaker 6: all stained. I yelled to Mike Desmond, one of the
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  Speaker 6: other neighbors. He called you, fellas good Redford, saying anything
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  Speaker 6: to you how it happened. We kept moaning about the pain.
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  Speaker 6: That made me sick. It was a relief when he
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  Speaker 6: passed out.
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  Speaker 7: Did he tell you how it happened?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah? His wife. I figured that was it when I
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  Speaker 6: saw it was wrong with him.
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  Speaker 7: He told you his wife shot him.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, they had a big fight today. Wiley and his
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  Speaker 6: wife started this afternoon. Been going on all day, all night,
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  Speaker 6: yelling at each other, throwing things around. I never expected this, though.
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  Speaker 6: Something must to snapped. She must be out of her mind.
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  Speaker 6: Where's his wife now?
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  Speaker 7: I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: It's still back in their cottage. I guess I've been
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  Speaker 6: here since the shooting. I didn't see her leave.
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  Speaker 9: Joe.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, we got our hands full.
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  Speaker 7: Now.
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  Speaker 6: What he done was talking one of the neighbor women
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  Speaker 6: back in the court here, she said to missus Radford
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  Speaker 6: wanted her about five minutes ago, identified herself as the
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  Speaker 6: victim's wife, Cottage number nine, mus Radford went with a
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  Speaker 6: neighborhood and she said she was giving fair warnings. She
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  Speaker 6: wanted to pass the world. What do you mean, She's
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  Speaker 6: going to kill anybody that comes.
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  Speaker 5: After ten twenty eight pm, the ambulance arrived and the
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  Speaker 5: attendants administered first aid to the victim of the shooting,
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  Speaker 5: Wallace Radford, before he was rushed to Georgia Street Receiving
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  Speaker 5: Hospital for further treatment. Radford regained consciousness long enough to
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  Speaker 5: confirm the fact that it was his wife who shot him.
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  Speaker 5: That was about all he could tell us before the
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  Speaker 5: sedatives took effect. The two officers and two of the
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  Speaker 5: radio cars which were standing by, were detailed to keep
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  Speaker 5: the crowd away from the apartment court where the shooting
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  Speaker 5: took place, in particular Cottage nine, where the Radfords lived.
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  Speaker 5: The blinds were drawn in the house. There were no
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  Speaker 5: lights showing. We called the Radford cottage on the poem,
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  Speaker 5: but there was no answer. Al Shambra and Ed circled
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  Speaker 5: around and back for a closer.
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  Speaker 7: Look at the place.
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  Speaker 5: I continued interviewing the Radford's next door neighbor, Ernest Quidley.
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  Speaker 6: I guess I should have known it had come to
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  Speaker 6: this someday. We'd have been fighting lately. Wally and his
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  Speaker 6: wife have been there nothing but wrangling day and they.
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  Speaker 7: Were You any idea where missus Radford got the gun.
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  Speaker 6: She must have used Wally's. I guess don't know where
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  Speaker 6: else she gets her hands on one.
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  Speaker 7: He keeps a gun in the house, does he?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, as long as they've known to me. It's thirty
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  Speaker 6: eight automatic. I don't know to make them?
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  Speaker 7: Do you happen to know if Missus Radford was used
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  Speaker 7: to handling the gun?
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  Speaker 6: No, a typical woman. I remember Wally and Stella were
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  Speaker 6: over for cards one night.
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  Speaker 7: Stella, that's missus Radford.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know how it came up, but Wally and
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  Speaker 6: Stella started arguing about him keeping a gun in the house.
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  Speaker 6: Stella didn't like it a bit, said she was afraid
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  Speaker 6: of guns, didn't even like to have him around. That
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  Speaker 6: surprise you even knew how to pull a trigger.
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  Speaker 7: You said, the Radford's had a big fight today. What
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  Speaker 7: was it about?
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  Speaker 6: You had to know single thing. I guess Stella was
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  Speaker 6: always accusing Wally a running around with other women, run
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  Speaker 6: around town drinking. As far as I know, it wasn't true.
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  Speaker 6: Matter of fact, it was just the opposite. If anybody
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  Speaker 6: was on the town, it was Stella. I have at
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  Speaker 6: least one guy she was making eyes at. Oh, she's
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  Speaker 6: your friends.
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  Speaker 7: Why what to look like?
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  Speaker 3: Not good? House is pitch dark? An't there anyone moving
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  Speaker 3: around inside?
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  Speaker 6: It won't be easy to get out of that shoe.
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  Speaker 6: The way the cottage is situated.
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  Speaker 7: Wow, what's the problem?
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  Speaker 6: The rere of the housebacks up against that hill. There
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  Speaker 6: there was a small space between the end of the
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  Speaker 6: house and the hill, and no back door. Just windows.
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  Speaker 6: One of them's open a few inches.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, the front door is the only way in
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  Speaker 7: the place.
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  Speaker 3: I on the left the house or left hand side.
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  Speaker 6: That's a kitchen door. Sorry, at least right in the kitchen,
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  Speaker 6: just like our place. All the cottages laid out.
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  Speaker 7: The same living rooms just inside the front door. They know, Yeah,
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  Speaker 7: that's right.
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  Speaker 6: Bedroom's in the right rear kitchen and the left rear
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  Speaker 6: a small bathroom leading off the bedroom.
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  Speaker 7: Least the left.
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  Speaker 6: She won't come out peasibly. How about a two guys
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  Speaker 6: show that ought to bring her up?
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  Speaker 7: Well, I don't know if we'll need today. I might
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  Speaker 7: be a waste of time.
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  Speaker 5: Whitley here was just telling you, missus, Radford isn't familiar
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  Speaker 5: with guns. Do you think you know how to reload
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  Speaker 5: the automatically?
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  Speaker 6: No, sir, I'm pretty sure she wouldn't. I don't even
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  Speaker 6: know if Wally had another clip of shells around the house.
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  Speaker 6: Even if you did, Stella wouldn't know.
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  Speaker 7: What to do with it.
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  Speaker 8: How about to clip the s all ready thing? On
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  Speaker 8: the chance you got a couple of shells left.
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  Speaker 6: She fired more than half a dozen of them. I
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  Speaker 6: know that she must have gone crazy. They were at
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  Speaker 6: least seven or eight shots just about empty in the gun.
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  Speaker 7: How about it?
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  Speaker 5: You want to try rushing the place, Let's go kide
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  Speaker 5: me all right. You better stay out here for the
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  Speaker 5: time being, mister Whitley might be some shooting. You know
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  Speaker 5: that you'd take any chances?
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  Speaker 7: Yes, for sure.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, So I'll be right back here if you want.
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  Speaker 7: Thank you very much, all right? Let's try it.
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  Speaker 3: How do you want to handle it?
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  Speaker 6: Why don't you and I'll take the side door. I'll
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  Speaker 6: go in the front. I want to see if we
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  Speaker 6: get a rise out of her first.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I might be sure to give it up without
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  Speaker 7: a fight. I'll call out to her a couple of
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  Speaker 7: times first. If there's no answer, we'll rush the place.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, now, let's.
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  Speaker 7: Make it all together. I just wait for a signal.
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  Speaker 8: I'll call it aut right, okay, all right, sid, I'll
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  Speaker 8: do it just behind the shrub over there. There's a
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  Speaker 8: little time to get around.
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  Speaker 7: Huh. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Know when I call out to rush, make it fast.
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  Speaker 5: It's the only thing we've got in our favor. We'll
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  Speaker 5: try and surprise you, right, say you'll have bab be careful.
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  Speaker 7: That's Radford. There's Ratford.
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  Speaker 9: Can you hear me?
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  Speaker 7: Police officers got your place around it. I want you
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  Speaker 7: to come out, can you hear me?
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  Speaker 10: Miss Radford? We want you to come out, Miss Radford?
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  Speaker 10: All right, let's go hit the door, go Joey?
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  Speaker 9: All right?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah? What about you and the kick and tempty? Okay,
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  Speaker 7: just a minute? Living room's efty?
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  Speaker 1: Not in here?
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  Speaker 7: Add in the bedroom?
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  Speaker 3: Nothing hair? Yeah, how about that? They go back, here
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  Speaker 3: are you bedroom? Straight back?
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  Speaker 7: All right, have a look when you check the bathroom.
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  Speaker 3: In all the closet, everything, she's gone.
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  Speaker 5: Ten forty six pm we double checked the cottage, all
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  Speaker 5: the buildings and possible hiding places adjoining the Radford house,
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  Speaker 5: and then we combed through the immediate neighborhood around the
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  Speaker 5: apartment court. There was no trace of a suspect Stella Radford.
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  Speaker 5: In the apartment. We found a picture which neighbors told
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  Speaker 5: us was a good likeness of missus Radford. Al Shambra
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  Speaker 5: got to a phone called the office and a local
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  Speaker 5: broadcast and an APB was gotten out on her. We
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  Speaker 5: figured she probably slipped out of the house without being
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  Speaker 5: noticed during the general excitement immediately after the shooting. Her
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  Speaker 5: phone called at one of the neighbors warning that she'd
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  Speaker 5: kill anyone who came after her. Only served as a
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  Speaker 5: stall to give her more time for a getaway. Ten
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  Speaker 5: fifty five pm, Ray Pinker and the crime lab crew
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  Speaker 5: arrived and began their preliminary investigation. Judging from the bloodstains
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  Speaker 5: out on the furniture, in the rug, in the living
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  Speaker 5: room and on the front steps of the cottage, Radford
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  Speaker 5: had first been shot while he was in the living room,
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  Speaker 5: and then apparently he ran out the front door to
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  Speaker 5: escape the gunfire.
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  Speaker 7: A trail of seven empty shells.
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  Speaker 5: Ejected from a thirty eight caliber automatic seemed to indicate
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  Speaker 5: that his wife followed him out the front door, still
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  Speaker 5: firing at him as he tried to get away. We
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  Speaker 5: checked the apartment court garage, but the Radford's car was
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  Speaker 5: still there. We remained at the apartment court interviewing the
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  Speaker 5: neighbors and trying to get a line on some of
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  Speaker 5: Missus Radford's known friends and associates.
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  Speaker 6: Joe, how'd you make a much ol neighbor I talked.
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  Speaker 7: To, hardly even knew the Radford's How about.
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  Speaker 6: You that much better? You're in the apartment up the
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  Speaker 6: way named Joanne Taylor. She told me she knew Radford's
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  Speaker 6: wife fairly well. Says she has a sister in town.
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  Speaker 6: Doesn't have any idea where she lives.
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  Speaker 5: Though, how about the boyfriends Missus Radford' supposed to running
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  Speaker 5: around with?
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  Speaker 7: Hearing anything about.
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  Speaker 6: That, she thinks she was doing a little running around.
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  Speaker 6: She doesn't know who the men are though. Hearing about
• 13:49
  Speaker 6: Radford's condition, I checked with George's treat a couple of
• 13:51
  Speaker 6: minutes ago. It's pretty critical. I don't know if he's
• 13:53
  Speaker 6: going to make it her name.
• 13:54
  Speaker 8: Oh back here, hustler, come on, But he got Redford,
• 14:00
  Speaker 8: his neighbors next to Whitley's. Just got a call from
• 14:02
  Speaker 8: miss Radford. She's talking to mister Whitley on the phone
• 14:04
  Speaker 8: right now.
• 14:04
  Speaker 7: Let's go. I don't know what this is.
• 14:05
  Speaker 11: What I was on?
• 14:13
  Speaker 6: Oh yes, I was just gonna run and get you.
• 14:15
  Speaker 7: You had missus Radford on the phone.
• 14:16
  Speaker 6: I did, Yeah, she hung up just before you came in.
• 14:19
  Speaker 3: Wouldn't talk though. Did you tell you where she is?
• 14:21
  Speaker 5: No?
• 14:21
  Speaker 6: She sure sounded funny. I think something snatched.
• 14:23
  Speaker 7: She's a little crazy or what she said?
• 14:24
  Speaker 11: What she called?
• 14:25
  Speaker 6: You said she wanted to find out if her no
• 14:26
  Speaker 6: good husband was dead. Yet that's all I could make A.
• 14:32
  Speaker 5: While ed and I waited with mister Whitley in his
• 14:34
  Speaker 5: apartment al shamber, got to another phone in one of
• 14:36
  Speaker 5: the adjoining apartments, called our business office and gave them
• 14:39
  Speaker 5: the number of the Whitley's telephone. He asked them to
• 14:42
  Speaker 5: make arrangements as soon as possible to have all incoming
• 14:44
  Speaker 5: calls at the Whitley's trace to their origin meantime, Ed
• 14:48
  Speaker 5: and I were briefing Ernest Whitley as to what he
• 14:49
  Speaker 5: should say if and when the suspect Stella Radford called
• 14:52
  Speaker 5: him back. There was no phone extension in his apartment,
• 14:55
  Speaker 5: so the only way we'd be able to monitor the.
• 14:57
  Speaker 7: Conversation would be for Whitley to share the receiver with.
• 14:59
  Speaker 5: One one of us were waiting eleven thirty pm, eleven
• 15:03
  Speaker 5: forty five midnight, twelve fifteen am.
• 15:08
  Speaker 7: Sorry, all right, try and keep the receiver till then
• 15:11
  Speaker 7: so we can listen.
• 15:12
  Speaker 5: Sure, hope, I got it straight?
• 15:13
  Speaker 11: Okay, Hello, I needed Stella.
• 15:17
  Speaker 9: Do you find out what I told you to?
• 15:19
  Speaker 6: Yeah? Yeah, I call the hospital.
• 15:20
  Speaker 7: While he's a lot better.
• 15:21
  Speaker 6: It's not as bad as they thought it was. What
• 15:23
  Speaker 6: do you mean it's not bad?
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: You're trying to kid me.
• 15:25
  Speaker 6: No, it's a truth. Still, it's not half bad at all.
• 15:26
  Speaker 6: While he's gonna be all right.
• 15:28
  Speaker 9: Couldn't I'm shot him four or five times?
• 15:30
  Speaker 5: Ell? Could he be all right?
• 15:31
  Speaker 6: I didn't say he was all right.
• 15:32
  Speaker 7: I say he was going to be all right.
• 15:33
  Speaker 6: Look, it's nothing serious. It's not half as bad as
• 15:35
  Speaker 6: they thought.
• 15:35
  Speaker 9: You're lying, you know you're lying.
• 15:37
  Speaker 6: Let's come on, snap, out of it. Well you're still
• 15:39
  Speaker 6: it's going to be all right.
• 15:39
  Speaker 7: Wal He forgives you, believe me, he does.
• 15:42
  Speaker 6: Now, look, why don't you come home. We'll get the
• 15:43
  Speaker 6: whole thing straightened out. There won't be any trouble.
• 15:45
  Speaker 12: Why don't you trying to kid me?
• 15:47
  Speaker 9: It's not going to be all right.
• 15:48
  Speaker 6: I've seen the last you and the last of Wallie.
• 15:50
  Speaker 11: Still, I'm with my boyfriend.
• 15:51
  Speaker 6: Now we're getting out of town. Now, wait a minute, Stelle,
• 15:53
  Speaker 6: use your head. Huh. Don't go rushing in anything. Don't
• 15:55
  Speaker 6: have to tell me.
• 15:56
  Speaker 5: I know what I'm doing.
• 15:57
  Speaker 6: I don't care if that dumb husband of mine lived
• 15:59
  Speaker 6: or dies, but just.
• 16:00
  Speaker 9: Telling me better not try to follow it, Stell.
• 16:02
  Speaker 6: My boyfriend and ex he's got a gun and he
• 16:04
  Speaker 6: knows how to use it. Well, Stella, wall you listen
• 16:06
  Speaker 6: a minute.
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: The cops too, in case they're going to follow us.
• 16:09
  Speaker 9: They try and stop it, and they're going.
• 16:10
  Speaker 6: To have a fight in there. Look, you keep talking.
• 16:12
  Speaker 6: When you listen for just a minute, where are you now,
• 16:14
  Speaker 6: let me come down and talk to you.
• 16:15
  Speaker 9: Not a chance, just be a waste of time.
• 16:17
  Speaker 5: I'll leave it with my boyfriend in half an hour.
• 16:19
  Speaker 7: You can tell I'll be done.
• 16:21
  Speaker 6: Wait a minute, Stelle. He gave me a message for you, Annie.
• 16:23
  Speaker 6: He left something with me. He wants you to have it.
• 16:25
  Speaker 6: What's wallet?
• 16:27
  Speaker 7: He gave it to me just before he left for
• 16:28
  Speaker 7: the hospital.
• 16:28
  Speaker 6: He got ninety four dollars in it, says he doesn't
• 16:31
  Speaker 6: care what you think of He wants you to have
• 16:32
  Speaker 6: the money.
• 16:33
  Speaker 7: Ninety four dollars.
• 16:34
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he didn't have that much money with hi.
• 16:36
  Speaker 9: Where'd he get it?
• 16:37
  Speaker 6: Well, I don't know anything about that, but it's right
• 16:39
  Speaker 6: here in his wallet, just the way he gave it
• 16:40
  Speaker 6: to me. He wants you to have it, that's.
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: All I know.
• 16:42
  Speaker 9: I don't get it.
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: He didn't have that much money.
• 16:44
  Speaker 6: Well, what do you want me to do? Take it
• 16:45
  Speaker 6: back to him? Tell me you didn't want it. Look,
• 16:47
  Speaker 6: give the guy a break, Hostelle. It's the only way
• 16:49
  Speaker 6: he's got to show you how he feels about you, Stell.
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: Isn't that right?
• 16:56
  Speaker 9: Well?
• 16:56
  Speaker 7: How about it, Stelle?
• 16:58
  Speaker 6: You got the money with you? I told you, yeah,
• 17:00
  Speaker 6: pick it up anytime you want. No, you bring it
• 17:02
  Speaker 6: down here.
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: I'll put your camp there, buy your.
• 17:05
  Speaker 12: Drinks if you meet my boyfriend.
• 17:06
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Stelle, Stelle, Yeah, it's about twelve thirty out.
• 17:14
  Speaker 11: Be down here in half an hour.
• 17:15
  Speaker 6: Huh, I'm in a bar right on the corner.
• 17:17
  Speaker 10: You can't miss it.
• 17:17
  Speaker 6: Well, what corner ninth and Avalon.
• 17:23
  Speaker 5: As soon as the suspect Stella Radford hung up, we
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: went to the apartment Cottie's next door, where al Shambra
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: was on the phone in constant communication with our business office.
• 17:31
  Speaker 7: He told us that somehow there's been a slip up.
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: They were unable to trace the call to its point
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: of origin twelve thirty six am. According to plan, Ernest
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: quickly left his apartment, called a taxi and headed downtown
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: to keep his appointment with a.
• 17:44
  Speaker 7: Suspect Stella Radford.
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: Ed Jacobs and Lieutenant Tony Ruis from Homicide followed him.
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: Al shamber and I stood by at the apartment more
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: waiting one am one point thirty two am.
• 17:56
  Speaker 6: I think they'd call us anyway. I wonder what the
• 17:57
  Speaker 6: hitch is. It's kind of hard to figure out, steer.
• 18:00
  Speaker 7: They ran into some kind of.
• 18:01
  Speaker 6: Trouble, made missus Radford. She really warmed up for the
• 18:03
  Speaker 6: idea when the money was mentioned.
• 18:04
  Speaker 7: Apparently, yeah, I was listening in.
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: When Whitley gave her the story, she seemed to go
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: for it's kind of hard to tell the way this
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: whole thing shaped up.
• 18:11
  Speaker 6: She might be them. Now give a look.
• 18:18
  Speaker 7: Than Joe, Oh yeah, what happened? How to go?
• 18:20
  Speaker 8: We covered the bottle of clothing. Priz neighborhood gave a
• 18:23
  Speaker 8: funny of time. Yeah, no, lock, she didn't show.
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: You are listening to Drag Meet Authentic stories of your
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: police force and action.
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: Friday, January twenty first to twenty eight am, with the
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: failure of the suspect, Stella Radford to keep the date
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: with her next door neighbor Ernest Quidley at the Avalon
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: Boulevard bar, we reached a temporary stalemate. Despite the fact
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: that checks were made at all restaurants, bars, and other
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: business places in the vicinity.
• 19:04
  Speaker 7: Of Ninth and Avalon opened that time of night, there
• 19:06
  Speaker 7: was no report or trace of the suspect.
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: While the search continued, we stood by at the Whitley
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: apartment in the hope that missus Radford might call back.
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: A check of our records and Identification Bureau failed to
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: turn up any record on either the.
• 19:19
  Speaker 7: Victim or the suspect.
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: His wife ed called Georgia Street Receiving Hospital again, but
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: there was no change.
• 19:25
  Speaker 7: Wallace Radford's condition was still critical.
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: At two thirty five a m. Stella Radford telephoned again.
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: While we listened in. She told Whitley that she'd had
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: no intention of keeping that appointment with him at the
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: Avalon Boulevard bar. She told him that she knew he
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: was working with the police, that she saw officers follow
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: Whitley to the bar.
• 19:42
  Speaker 7: Where they were supposed to have met.
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: She again warned him of the consequences in the event
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: anybody tried to apprehend her. After she hung up, we
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: checked with the business office and they told us that
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: the calls had been coming from a telephone prefix which
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: was impossible to trace. Ten minutes later, Whitley got another
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: call from the Radford woman. The conversation went on for
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: the better part of twenty minutes. She didn't seem to
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: make much rhyme or reason. Her only concern was the
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: condition of her husband, whether or.
• 20:06
  Speaker 7: Not he was dead. She hung up abruptly, but fifteen
• 20:09
  Speaker 7: minutes later she called Whitley again.
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: Look, Stelle, I told you there isn't gonna be any
• 20:13
  Speaker 6: trouble now. Why don't you go and see Wally lying
• 20:15
  Speaker 6: down there in the hospital. He wants to see you.
• 20:17
  Speaker 6: How about it, Hostell? If he did or not, that's
• 20:19
  Speaker 6: all I want to know.
• 20:20
  Speaker 7: My boyfriend and I are leave the first thing in
• 20:21
  Speaker 7: the morning.
• 20:22
  Speaker 9: I want to find out before.
• 20:23
  Speaker 6: Why don't you at least give me a chance to
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: talk to you? Estelle? Huh, we've been good friends.
• 20:26
  Speaker 7: You know.
• 20:26
  Speaker 6: I wouldn't do anything to hurt you.
• 20:27
  Speaker 7: You are Wally.
• 20:28
  Speaker 6: Now let me talk to you. Hunh there's nothing to
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: talk about.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: They got any say to tell me now.
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: All I want to do is out.
• 20:33
  Speaker 6: I want to told you he's hurt, but he's going
• 20:35
  Speaker 6: to be all right. It's not serious, Stelle.
• 20:39
  Speaker 9: Why don't you shove blind to me?
• 20:41
  Speaker 6: But I'm not lying, Stelle. I wouldn't lie about something
• 20:44
  Speaker 6: like that. What's the matter with you anyway? You've been drinking?
• 20:46
  Speaker 9: What's it your business?
• 20:47
  Speaker 6: You're not getting me, Ornie. You're trying to help the cup?
• 20:49
  Speaker 12: Don't you think I know that?
• 20:50
  Speaker 9: What kind of a pool you think I am?
• 20:52
  Speaker 6: I'm trying to help, Stelle, that's all you're You're kind of.
• 20:54
  Speaker 9: Help, not me, though, you're kind of help the coup.
• 20:57
  Speaker 9: I know they're weakened, but we.
• 20:58
  Speaker 7: Made that day to meet at the bar.
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: You total all about it.
• 21:00
  Speaker 6: No, No, you got it wrong, honey. I'm trying to
• 21:04
  Speaker 6: help both it and you and Wally. I'm trying to
• 21:06
  Speaker 6: help the best way I know how. Why don't you
• 21:08
  Speaker 6: come home? I told you straighten the whole thing out.
• 21:11
  Speaker 6: There won't be any trouble.
• 21:11
  Speaker 9: Don't have me that I said.
• 21:13
  Speaker 6: We're leaving count me and my boyfriend.
• 21:15
  Speaker 9: What about that money?
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: Nine?
• 21:18
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's ready, diners. Now, how can I get it
• 21:20
  Speaker 6: to you? If you don't trust me, get.
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: Away from the cops.
• 21:23
  Speaker 6: Maybe I could use the money, but I'm not giving myself. Look,
• 21:26
  Speaker 6: you're wrong about the cops. Still believe me?
• 21:28
  Speaker 9: You are?
• 21:28
  Speaker 6: Now, why won't you let me meet you someplace? Any
• 21:30
  Speaker 6: place you want? Just let me talk to you.
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: I have to tell you that not to talk about.
• 21:34
  Speaker 6: All I want to do is about Wally.
• 21:36
  Speaker 9: Is he did yet?
• 21:36
  Speaker 6: But I told you he's not dead. He's going to
• 21:38
  Speaker 6: be all right. Why can't you believe me? It's not
• 21:41
  Speaker 6: what they thought.
• 21:42
  Speaker 7: Whial, He'll be okay in the next room.
• 21:46
  Speaker 6: But what Forest Dell? Why not come on snap out
• 21:49
  Speaker 6: of it.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: Huh No, it's the.
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: Truth, So help me.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's my It just happened to strike me.
• 21:55
  Speaker 7: You hear that street card.
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: It just went by a minute ago.
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I did.
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: Why did you know this?
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: A little before that we were listening on the phone.
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: Sounded like the same thing coming over the line, didn't it.
• 22:03
  Speaker 8: Yeah, come to think of it, it did. Matter of fact,
• 22:05
  Speaker 8: I heard it a couple of times coming over the phone.
• 22:06
  Speaker 8: Was pretty regular.
• 22:07
  Speaker 7: Now, that's what I mean.
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: Street cars have been passing by here regularly too. Not
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: much of a time laps either, not much more in
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: a minute. Well, I mean between the time when we
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: hear it over the phone and the time the street
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: car actually passes this place.
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: Well, if we've got the right angle, there's only one
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: way to figure here. She's phoning from somewhere in the neighborhood,
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: and she's fairly close with and she saying, where do
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: we start looking? Car tracks only run two ways. Three
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: thirty am ed and I went back into the next
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: room and continue to monitor the conversation between Whitley and
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: missus Radford. Whitley seemed to know how to keep the
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: suspect talking, even though the purpose of her conversation seemed
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: to make little or no sense. At three forty two am,
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: while we listened in on the other end of the line.
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: We again heard the sound of a.
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: Street car approach and pass Ed checked his watch.
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: Approximately one minute thirty eight seconds later, we heard a
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: streetcar pass by in front of the apartment court. Before
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: Ed and I left, we gotted down a note for
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: Whickley asking him to keep missus Radford on the line just.
• 23:04
  Speaker 7: As long as possible. We got in the car and
• 23:07
  Speaker 7: drove north along the car tracks at about the normal
• 23:09
  Speaker 7: speed of a street car.
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: One minute and thirty eight seconds of driving brought us
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: a distance of little more than eight blocks. Was on
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: the fringe of a park area. There were only three
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: residential buildings in the immediate vicinity. There were no lights
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: showing in any of them. We checked the location for
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: public telephones, but we found none. Four or fifteen am,
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: we turned around, drove back to the apartment court.
• 23:29
  Speaker 7: And, using the same timing procedure one minute thirty.
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: Eight seconds of twenty five miles an hour, we drove
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: along the car line in a southerly direction.
• 23:37
  Speaker 8: Shot how much of a choice Barser closed most of
• 23:40
  Speaker 8: the restaurants. No light's running on this block?
• 23:42
  Speaker 7: Few up ahead, then the next block.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: ED, gotta come pretty soon, doesn't it?
• 23:47
  Speaker 7: Yeah? It's a minute right now. I can't see how
• 23:49
  Speaker 7: we be wronging it?
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: Can you too much to rite off? Is just a coincidence?
• 23:54
  Speaker 7: A minute? Fifteen seconds? Minute twenty better? Slow down? Yeah?
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: What do you think?
• 24:03
  Speaker 7: There's a service station across the street and it's.
• 24:05
  Speaker 6: Closed up with a lot of them have outside payphers.
• 24:07
  Speaker 7: Don't think you see any No?
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: None on this side? Say I'll pull up in there.
• 24:12
  Speaker 7: Huh Yeah, there's the phone los in the back there.
• 24:16
  Speaker 7: There's no light though, looks.
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: Like somebody in it. Looks like a woman yet is
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: come in? All right, hold it up, lady, he's running
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: for Joe.
• 24:27
  Speaker 7: All right, come on, come on, hold it up, lady.
• 24:28
  Speaker 6: Police office, they go, they go, me, what do you
• 24:31
  Speaker 6: think you're doing?
• 24:31
  Speaker 7: Poice officer's lady? Here's our identification? Like talk to you?
• 24:34
  Speaker 6: You leave me alone. Just leave me alone, that's all.
• 24:36
  Speaker 12: I don't have to talk to you.
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: And name still a Radford? Isn't it?
• 24:38
  Speaker 7: No?
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: No, it isn't that's your identification?
• 24:40
  Speaker 6: Who sent you here?
• 24:41
  Speaker 11: Who was it?
• 24:42
  Speaker 7: Are you still a Radford?
• 24:43
  Speaker 6: Who couldn't have found out?
• 24:44
  Speaker 12: How'd you know I was here?
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: It was on hee?
• 24:45
  Speaker 8: Wasn't it him?
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: And his friends?
• 24:46
  Speaker 6: He told you. No, man, I don't see how you
• 24:49
  Speaker 6: found me. Somebody had to tell you. You never could
• 24:51
  Speaker 6: have found me. I don't see how I made any mistake.
• 24:54
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that's right. Let's go, lady.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: The story you have just heard was true. The names
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: were changed to protect the innocent.
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: On April sixteenth, trial was held in Superior Court, Department
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: eighty eight, City and County of Los Angeles, State of California.
• 25:19
  Speaker 6: In a moment the results of that trial.
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: The victim of the shooting, Wallace John Radford, recovered from
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: his wounds and refused to press charges against his wife. However,
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: she was tried in Superior Court and found guilty of
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: Section two forty five PC Assault.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: With a deadly weapon.
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: She was sentenced to the term prescribed by law assault
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: with a deadly weapon as punishable by imprisonment in the
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: state penitentiary for a term not less than one nor
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: more than ten years.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, Mister Joseph M. Kennick, President of the
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: California State Juvenile Officers Association, thank you. California State Juvenile
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: Officers Association has asked me to present this award of
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: merit to Jack Webb and to Dragnet for outstanding service
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: to law enforcement in the authentic and sympathetic portrayal of
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: the police officer in the field of delinquency control.
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: Thank you very much, mister Kenney, and I'll be looking
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: forward to meeting you again and the members of your
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: association at your annual conference banquet tomorrow night.
• 26:23
  Speaker 7: Here in Los Angeles, you have just.
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: Heard Dragnet, a series of authentic cases from official files.
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: Technical advice comes from the Office of Chief of Police W. H. Parker,
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: Los Angeles Police Department Technical Advisors, Captain Jack Donaho, Sergeant
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: Marty Wynn, Sergeant Vance Bracer. Heard tonight where Barney Phillips, Herbellus,
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: Jack Pruschan, Helen Cleave, script by Jim Mozy, music by
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: Walter Schumann, Hell Gibney speaking.
• 27:07
  Speaker 7: Ladies and gentlemen.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: Nature plus the threat of man made catastrophes make continuing
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  Speaker 6: No, it's cod Spy on NBC.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back. That cafeteria at the beginning is a menace
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: to public safety. Given how many police officers it was
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: a flecting a nice clue and bit of detective of
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  Speaker 1: work that could have worked in a fictional story. For
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  Speaker 1: the first time listening to this, I did question the
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  Speaker 1: method because it seemed to me that on a very
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  Speaker 1: basic level, you could have had one of the two
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  Speaker 1: detectives outside monitoring street car traffic in the area, so
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  Speaker 1: when the other one heard the streak car going by
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  Speaker 1: after they'd heard it on the phone, the detective was
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: outside would know which exact direction to go, rather than
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: having to backtrack back and forth, which required keeping the
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: suspect on the line longer. Now, it could be a
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: change that was done for dramatic effect because it's a
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: little bit more tense, or it could be that the
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  Speaker 1: real life officers didn't think think of that. To be fair,
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  Speaker 1: this is at least my third time hearing this particular episode,
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  Speaker 1: and I think this is the first time it's occurred
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  Speaker 1: to me, and I was not under the influence of
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: the cafeterious food. Episode also has another important point at
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  Speaker 1: the end where the husband, mister Radford, decides not to
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  Speaker 1: press charges. Nevertheless, charges are brought, and this brings home
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  Speaker 1: an important point where sometimes we can get misled by
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: fictional crime programs and get the idea that a victim's
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: decision to press charges or not determinative of whether a
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: prosecution will occur. That's just not the case. It is
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: usually the decision of the state as to whether they're
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: going to prosecute, although that does vary a little bit
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: by jurisdiction in some cases. Just as a practical matter
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: without a complaining witness, there are various crimes that are
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: just very hard to prove, and this is true certainly
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: of many domestic violence prosecutions. There are also some minor
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: crimes where a prosecutor might give weight to a victim's
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: request that prosecution not be pursued. Prosecutorial discretion can indicate
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: that it's just not wise to bring a prosecution involved
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: the correctional system in a minor situation that the parties
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: have come to an understanding one. But then there are
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: cases that are going to be prosecuted regardless of what
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: the victim said. It's wonderful the husband's choosing to be
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: a sport and not prosecute, but honestly, the police don't
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: need him to give evidence. They've got the gun she fired,
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: and likely they were able to run a paraffine test
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: and he ended up in the hospital in critical condition.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: This is a serious crime. It's not something that you
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: can allow in society without consequence, so it's totally they
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  Speaker 1: believable that they would go ahead and prosecute despite the husband.
• 31:24
  Speaker 7: Not wanting it.
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  Speaker 7: For your.
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  Speaker 9: This is Al Turner, a New Britain mutual.
• 32:04
  Speaker 11: Hi. Oh, what goes with you these days?
• 32:06
  Speaker 9: Johnny? One of our important clients is very anxious to
• 32:09
  Speaker 9: get in touch with you. Says that she's an old
• 32:12
  Speaker 9: friend of yours.
• 32:13
  Speaker 12: Oh who is that?
• 32:14
  Speaker 9: Her name is missus Virginia Haskell.
• 32:16
  Speaker 12: Virginia Haskell, that's right? Uh, sorry, Al, but I'm afraid
• 32:20
  Speaker 12: I never heard of her before she.
• 32:22
  Speaker 9: Got married about a year ago. Her name was Van
• 32:25
  Speaker 9: Doran Ginney.
• 32:26
  Speaker 11: Van dorn Is.
• 32:28
  Speaker 12: Oh well, now that's something else again, and I mean
• 32:31
  Speaker 12: something well, then you do know her.
• 32:33
  Speaker 7: One of the most.
• 32:33
  Speaker 12: Delightful bits of feminine polker tude I ever ran up against.
• 32:36
  Speaker 12: Believe me, a young man's fancy didn't have to wait
• 32:39
  Speaker 12: for spring to turn the thoughts of her.
• 32:40
  Speaker 9: Now what does that mean?
• 32:42
  Speaker 11: Oh?
• 32:42
  Speaker 7: Ah?
• 32:43
  Speaker 11: Even I had serious ideas about that gallop one time.
• 32:46
  Speaker 12: Oh yeah, right after college. Isn't every kid of that
• 32:48
  Speaker 12: agent trigued by the idea of marrying into a fortune.
• 32:51
  Speaker 12: And very beautiful at least she was when I know her.
• 32:54
  Speaker 9: Still is Johnny.
• 32:55
  Speaker 11: So she's married to somebody by the name of Haskell.
• 32:58
  Speaker 9: Huh, Gorton Haskell. They live on Birchbrook Road down in Bronxville,
• 33:03
  Speaker 9: New York.
• 33:04
  Speaker 12: Funny, what well when I knew her, that blonde charmer
• 33:08
  Speaker 12: didn't have eyes for anybody but Paul Snowden. Who's Paul
• 33:11
  Speaker 12: Snowdon child? What sweetheight that sort of thing. Poor boy
• 33:15
  Speaker 12: making good on his own, you.
• 33:16
  Speaker 6: Know a little bit.
• 33:17
  Speaker 9: Ah, He is too proud to marry her because of
• 33:19
  Speaker 9: her money.
• 33:20
  Speaker 12: But she swore that she'd never marry anybody else, that
• 33:22
  Speaker 12: he was her one true love.
• 33:24
  Speaker 11: But I uh, I guess she changed her mind. What
• 33:27
  Speaker 11: does she want to see me about al?
• 33:29
  Speaker 9: She didn't say. She did make it clear, however, that
• 33:32
  Speaker 9: it has to do with some of the family insurance.
• 33:34
  Speaker 11: Well that's as good an excuse as any.
• 33:36
  Speaker 9: Then, do you want to run on down.
• 33:38
  Speaker 12: There for a longing look at the gorgeous Ginny van Durham.
• 33:41
  Speaker 12: But it'll cost you money out listen, Johnny.
• 33:44
  Speaker 9: With the premiums we get for all the insurance she carries, life, house, property,
• 33:49
  Speaker 9: and so on.
• 33:50
  Speaker 11: The sky is a limit, brother, Have you stucked your
• 33:52
  Speaker 11: neck out?
• 33:53
  Speaker 9: Well, no, that doesn't mean you have.
• 33:55
  Speaker 11: I'll be in touch.
• 33:57
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  Speaker 1: This is your host, Adam Graham signing off.