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- 0:00Speaker 1: There. So, Like I said, this article is from law
- 0:03Speaker 1: dot com and the headline is Epstein victim Compensation Fund
- 0:07Speaker 1: approved by Virgin Island's judge, and the author of the
- 0:12Speaker 1: article is Tom McParland. A compensation fund for the survivors
- 0:19Speaker 1: of accused sex trafficker pedophile Jeffrey Epstein is set to
- 0:23Speaker 1: go into effect as early as June fifteenth, after a
- 0:26Speaker 1: judge in the US Virgin Islands approved the program earlier
- 0:29Speaker 1: this week. And we talked about that. Obviously, it's moving
- 0:34Speaker 1: at a rapid pace, much quicker than I thought it
- 0:36Speaker 1: was going to move. You know, there were some people
- 0:39Speaker 1: talking about decades before this kicked in. So to see
- 0:42Speaker 1: it start moving in a positive direction and to see
- 0:45Speaker 1: the estate start to take responsibility for what Jeffrey Epstein did,
- 0:50Speaker 1: it's certainly a positive development. The fund, which was proposed
- 0:54Speaker 1: in response to dozens of lawsuits by Epstein's accusers, would
- 0:58Speaker 1: free up hundreds of millions of dollars from the deceased
- 1:01Speaker 1: financier pedophiles Virgin Island, the States to settle claims out
- 1:05Speaker 1: of court following Epstein's suicide allegedly while awaiting trial in
- 1:10Speaker 1: Manhattan Federal Court, and it's important that all of this
- 1:16Speaker 1: money goes to the survivors. I don't want to see
- 1:18Speaker 1: this money getting pieced off to anybody else. The only
- 1:20Speaker 1: people who should get any of this is the survivors
- 1:24Speaker 1: and how they divvy that up. We'll all leave that
- 1:26Speaker 1: to the lawyers. Right. That's you know, that's up to
- 1:28Speaker 1: whatever the process is. But what I will tell you
- 1:31Speaker 1: is this, as an outsider looking in, I think it's
- 1:34Speaker 1: super important that all of that money goes to these survivors.
- 1:39Speaker 1: The protocols for the claims process, which were finalized within
- 1:42Speaker 1: the past week, allow survivors to submit a claim to
- 1:45Speaker 1: Administrator Jordana Feldman, who will then review the application and
- 1:50Speaker 1: make a proposed settlement offer set attorney David Boyce, whose
- 1:53Speaker 1: firm represents five Epstein survivors in the Southern District of
- 1:57Speaker 1: New York. Now, we didn't hear from David and the
- 2:00Speaker 1: other articles, right, we didn't get, you know, a comment
- 2:04Speaker 1: from the survivor's lawyers. We heard from one of the lawyers.
- 2:10Speaker 1: I believe Jordan Merston had a comment as very small comment.
- 2:13Speaker 1: But it's interesting to hear from David boys as well,
- 2:17Speaker 1: considering the role he's playing in this case and how
- 2:21Speaker 1: in front his firm is when it comes to representing
- 2:25Speaker 1: these survivors. So right away, we're hearing from David Boys
- 2:29Speaker 1: in this article, and that's adding a little bit more context,
- 2:31Speaker 1: of course than we had yesterday. So you see why
- 2:34Speaker 1: I try to like, I try to chain these articles
- 2:37Speaker 1: together sometimes when when they add more context. So hearing
- 2:41Speaker 1: from David Boys, the guy that's been negotiating this, it's
- 2:45Speaker 1: definitely a good addition to the story, right adds a
- 2:50Speaker 1: little bit more. The offer cannot be withdrawn by the estate.
- 2:55Speaker 1: Those survivors participating in the claims process would have the
- 2:58Speaker 1: option of whether to accept the same, he said, and
- 3:01Speaker 1: that's significant. It's important that the survivors are in control
- 3:06Speaker 1: of this process. It's important that the girls who the
- 3:11Speaker 1: estate has now acknowledged were abused by Jeffrey Epstein are
- 3:15Speaker 1: in control of their own fate. They've spent way too
- 3:18Speaker 1: long with their fate in other people's hands, and way
- 3:21Speaker 1: too many times those people who were supposed to be
- 3:23Speaker 1: in a position of power or in a position where
- 3:26Speaker 1: they could defend these girls have let them down. So
- 3:29Speaker 1: it's time for them to take their fate into their
- 3:31Speaker 1: own hands. So I like this a lot. Let them
- 3:33Speaker 1: choose what they want to do. Let them choose if
- 3:36Speaker 1: they want to accept the settlement or if they want
- 3:38Speaker 1: to pursue it further in court, whatever it may be,
- 3:40Speaker 1: but the option should always be theirs. In exchange, survivors
- 3:47Speaker 1: would relinquish all claims against Epstein's estate, as well as
- 3:51Speaker 1: any of its agents or employees. Those releases, however, would
- 3:55Speaker 1: not apply to any alleged participant in Epstein's sex trafficking scheme.
- 4:00Speaker 1: If a survivor declines the offer, she would still be
- 4:03Speaker 1: able to pursue her pursue her claims in courts, As
- 4:06Speaker 1: said Boys chairmen and managing partner of Boys Schiller and Flexner.
- 4:10Speaker 1: So if say one of the survivors takes a look
- 4:14Speaker 1: at what the settlement's offering her and she does not
- 4:17Speaker 1: believe that that's the right amount of money and she's being
- 4:21Speaker 1: compensated fairly, or she wants to pursue other avenues as
- 4:25Speaker 1: far as other people tied to the case goes, then
- 4:27Speaker 1: she certainly has that ability. They are not forced to
- 4:30Speaker 1: take part in this fund. So this is a completely
- 4:34Speaker 1: voluntary fund, and there's no they are not They're not
- 4:39Speaker 1: compelled to take part in it, and if they choose
- 4:41Speaker 1: to litigate and go to court, then that's exactly what
- 4:44Speaker 1: will occur. But I think it's a good option. Like
- 4:47Speaker 1: I was saying, it's a good option for the survivors
- 4:51Speaker 1: to have this as a way for them to begin
- 4:54Speaker 1: repairing their lives. Right, some of them might not want
- 4:57Speaker 1: to go through a whole entire legal battle and the
- 4:59Speaker 1: rig a role of you know, jumping through the loops,
- 5:03Speaker 1: the loopholes and and you know, battling it out with
- 5:07Speaker 1: these high profile attorneys of the estate, et cetera, et cetera,
- 5:10Speaker 1: and some people they might be fatigued, right they might decide, hey, look,
- 5:14Speaker 1: this compensation fund is where it's at. I'm gonna get
- 5:16Speaker 1: my money, and I'm gonna split and I'm gonna start
- 5:19Speaker 1: my life over. And then there's other there's other survivors
- 5:23Speaker 1: who might say, hey, you know what, I don't like
- 5:25Speaker 1: this the the the amount that was offered to me.
- 5:28Speaker 1: I don't feel that it is compensation enough for the
- 5:32Speaker 1: pain and suffering that I've went through at the hands
- 5:35Speaker 1: of Jeffrey Epstein. So I'm going to take this to
- 5:37Speaker 1: court and we're going to litigate this, and I'm going
- 5:41Speaker 1: to look for the number that I think fits the crime,
- 5:46Speaker 1: so we might see that, right, I don't know one
- 5:50Speaker 1: way or the other. I don't I have no inside
- 5:52Speaker 1: information on what any of these survivors are thinking. So
- 5:55Speaker 1: they're gonna do whatever is best for them. And that's
- 5:57Speaker 1: exactly what I hope they do, because for far too long,
- 6:01Speaker 1: nobody's looked out for them. So now that there's a
- 6:04Speaker 1: little bit of light at the end of the tunnel
- 6:07Speaker 1: and you know that there's options starting to open up
- 6:10Speaker 1: for them, I'm really glad that they're going to have
- 6:13Speaker 1: the ability to choose their own fate here. It's potentially
- 6:20Speaker 1: quite a favorable process for the survivors in the sense
- 6:23Speaker 1: that the survivor's right to go to court is protected.
- 6:26Speaker 1: Boyce said in an interview Thursday. I think it is
- 6:29Speaker 1: likely that all of our plaintiffs in the Southern District
- 6:32Speaker 1: would go through the claims process, he said. And I look,
- 6:36Speaker 1: I hope that every single dollar is paid out to
- 6:39Speaker 1: these girls. I mean, all you have to do is
- 6:43Speaker 1: listen to the pain and the anguish and their voices
- 6:47Speaker 1: in the Netflix documentary, and you understand the ramifications, You
- 6:52Speaker 1: understand the burden that has been shouldered by these young ladies.
- 6:56Speaker 1: It's heartbreaking. It is absolutely heartbreaking what they went through.
- 7:03Speaker 1: Does getting a financial determination in your favor make everything right?
- 7:08Speaker 1: Is it complete justice? No it is not. But it
- 7:12Speaker 1: is the estate acknowledging that Jeffrey Epstein abused and molested
- 7:18Speaker 1: these girls. It's a huge point. It is a huge
- 7:21Speaker 1: point that I'm going to keep driving home because it's
- 7:23Speaker 1: a big victory. It really is a big victory as
- 7:26Speaker 1: far as the pursuit of justice. This is them capitulating
- 7:34Speaker 1: in the civil portion of these cases. This is them
- 7:38Speaker 1: bending the knee and saying, we know that the estate
- 7:41Speaker 1: is in the wrong, no need to litigate it. We'll
- 7:44Speaker 1: just pay you out because we know that the estate
- 7:47Speaker 1: was in the wrong. And that's definitely a positive from
- 7:50Speaker 1: where we were just a handful of months ago to
- 7:53Speaker 1: where we're at now. To think that these survivors can
- 7:57Speaker 1: start getting some money sent their way and they can
- 8:00Speaker 1: start rebuilding their lives and doing it whatever it is
- 8:03Speaker 1: they choose to do well, I think that's definitely a
- 8:07Speaker 1: good thing. And I definitely agree with David Boyse that
- 8:10Speaker 1: this could turn out to be very, very good for
- 8:13Speaker 1: the survivors, especially considering that they can still criminally go
- 8:17Speaker 1: after the perpetrators and the co conspirators and continue to
- 8:20Speaker 1: help see justice be served. An attorney for Epstein's estate
- 8:25Speaker 1: told the Manhattan Federal Magistrate Judge in February that while
- 8:28Speaker 1: the program initially gained little traction among plaintiffs, the vast
- 8:32Speaker 1: majority have since come around on the idea, which he
- 8:35Speaker 1: said won almost uniform support among the survivors. And I
- 8:40Speaker 1: could see why it would, right. The fatigue must be great,
- 8:46Speaker 1: and to see a little bit of light at the
- 8:48Speaker 1: end of the tunnel here. If I was one of
- 8:49Speaker 1: these survivors, and you know, I was looking at the
- 8:52Speaker 1: big picture here, I would definitely be clapping about the
- 8:55Speaker 1: progress and happy about the progress made. And really it's
- 9:00Speaker 1: the progress has all been made because of the courage
- 9:02Speaker 1: of these survivors to come forward and say, you know what,
- 9:06Speaker 1: enough is enough. We will no longer live in the shadows,
- 9:08Speaker 1: we will no longer have our voices stepped on by
- 9:11Speaker 1: the legacy media. We're going to end around all of
- 9:14Speaker 1: you and we're going to take it straight to the
- 9:16Speaker 1: people via social media. And that is exactly what occurred.
- 9:20Speaker 1: That is exactly how this is gained steam and how
- 9:23Speaker 1: it's gained traction, and the survivors have earned every last
- 9:29Speaker 1: bit of this justice, folks, every last bit of it.
- 9:32Speaker 1: And again it's just a little taste indictments and prosecutions.
- 9:38Speaker 1: That's when a bow is tied on this package. Until then,
- 9:43Speaker 1: we'll keep chipping away at the rot, right, but we
- 9:45Speaker 1: have to take the time to take a look around
- 9:47Speaker 1: and say to ourselves, all right, well, we've made some
- 9:50Speaker 1: good progress here. The survivors are going to start getting
- 9:54Speaker 1: a little bit of, you know, a little bit of
- 9:56Speaker 1: a nod in their direction from the system acknowledging what
- 9:59Speaker 1: they want through. And we see what has occurred with
- 10:03Speaker 1: a lot of Epstein's buddies them having to having to
- 10:06Speaker 1: leave you know, public life and Andrew et cetera, et cetera.
- 10:11Speaker 1: So things are moving in the right direction, especially now
- 10:15Speaker 1: in the civil portion of this case, according to David Boyce,
- 10:18Speaker 1: and I'm inclined to believe what he has to say,
- 10:21Speaker 1: considering he is the lawyer for these survivors and would
- 10:24Speaker 1: know how they feel. That if the survivors are feeling
- 10:27Speaker 1: good about this fund, then that's good enough for me. Right,
- 10:31Speaker 1: It's all about them and what they feel like they
- 10:35Speaker 1: have coming their way because of the abuse by Jeffrey Epstein,
- 10:40Speaker 1: and if they've sat down with their lawyers and they
- 10:42Speaker 1: feel like this is the proper direction for them to go,
- 10:44Speaker 1: then I am super happy that this is this is
- 10:48Speaker 1: this is cracking off, and that they're going to be
- 10:50Speaker 1: able to start at the very least putting a little
- 10:55Speaker 1: bit of this behind them. The status of the fund, however,
- 11:01Speaker 1: had remained in limbo after US Virgin Islands Attorney General
- 11:05Speaker 1: Denise George in January hit the estate with leans for
- 11:08Speaker 1: alleged criminal activity, freezing all of its assets, including an
- 11:12Speaker 1: account used to fund its regular operations. And that was
- 11:15Speaker 1: a pretty shrewd move on Denise George's part. In my opinion,
- 11:19Speaker 1: I think that the pressure of her opening up these
- 11:23Speaker 1: investigations and dropping liens on them the way she did
- 11:27Speaker 1: kind of spurred them into action and made them understand
- 11:30Speaker 1: that there was no more time to drag their feet
- 11:33Speaker 1: and that their usual tactics were not going to work anymore.
- 11:38Speaker 1: So I think it was a pretty shrewd move on
- 11:41Speaker 1: Denise George's part, and I think she deserves some credit
- 11:44Speaker 1: for getting this moving in the right direction. And again
- 11:47Speaker 1: that still doesn't mean I'm not skeptical of her desire
- 11:51Speaker 1: to paint the Virgin Islands as some sort of victim
- 11:55Speaker 1: of Jeffrey Epstein, because that is not the case. But
- 11:58Speaker 1: as far as this goes, I think she's doing a
- 12:01Speaker 1: really good job when it comes to this portion. On Tuesday,
- 12:05Speaker 1: Magistrate Judge Carolyn P. Herman Purcell of the Virgin Island
- 12:08Speaker 1: Superior Court in Saint Thomas and Saint John said that
- 12:12Speaker 1: all interested parties there had finalized the program's protocols, clearing
- 12:17Speaker 1: the way for it to proceed. In a footnote, Herman
- 12:20Speaker 1: Purcell said that George had reached an agreement with the
- 12:22Speaker 1: estate to promptly lift the leans in order to pay
- 12:25Speaker 1: amounts owed for the program and to begin funding the
- 12:28Speaker 1: program's active operations, including payments of compensation determinations to eligible claimants.
- 12:36Speaker 1: So it sounds to me like everything is moving very rapidly,
- 12:41Speaker 1: and I would have to believe that they have their
- 12:45Speaker 1: vetting process. I guess you would call it as a
- 12:48Speaker 1: fund locked in and ready to go, and they're going
- 12:51Speaker 1: to be able to process these claims relatively quickly. So
- 12:55Speaker 1: I'm very interested to keep following what goes on here
- 12:58Speaker 1: and how it turns, because I believe that they have
- 13:04Speaker 1: the infrastructure here to make sure that these payments get
- 13:07Speaker 1: paid out quickly. Bennett Moskowitz, a Trautman Sanders partner who
- 13:14Speaker 1: represents the state executors Darren Endyke and Richard Kahn, filed
- 13:18Speaker 1: the order Wednesday in the US District Court for the
- 13:21Speaker 1: Southern District of New York. He did not return a
- 13:24Speaker 1: call Thursday seeking comment on the fund. Boyce said his
- 13:27Speaker 1: firm had already submitted names and information for survivors, and
- 13:31Speaker 1: the claims process for each survivor was expected to take
- 13:34Speaker 1: a matter of weeks, not months, perfect even better. See
- 13:39Speaker 1: and that's why I wanted to add this article. You
- 13:40Speaker 1: see how much more information we've learned already just from
- 13:43Speaker 1: the little bit we've heard from David Boyce. And that's
- 13:46Speaker 1: why I'm always so adamant about going directly to the source.
- 13:50Speaker 1: Whenever we can go directly to the source and skip
- 13:53Speaker 1: all the BS, it's always the best option. So I
- 13:58Speaker 1: was relatively confident that we'd be able to add some
- 14:01Speaker 1: context with this article, and it's been pretty good so
- 14:04Speaker 1: far in that respect, because there's a lot of stuff
- 14:07Speaker 1: here that we didn't know from the article last night,
- 14:10Speaker 1: how it might take a matter of weeks, not months,
- 14:12Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera. So that's definitely good news. The
- 14:18Speaker 1: protocol is set up so the process should go relatively quickly.
- 14:22Speaker 1: He said. There are quite a few claimants, but I
- 14:24Speaker 1: think you will see many claims resolved over the next
- 14:26Speaker 1: few months. Epstein, a prominent Manhattan and South Florida based
- 14:31Speaker 1: finance here and gigantic disgusting pedophile, was found dead in
- 14:37Speaker 1: the secure housing unit of the Federal Metropolitan the Federal
- 14:40Speaker 1: Metropolitan Correctional Center in August after federal prosecutors charged him
- 14:45Speaker 1: in an underage sectoring that preyed on women and girls
- 14:48Speaker 1: as young as fourteen years old. His death was later
- 14:51Speaker 1: ruled a suicide by hanging. Allegedly just days before he died,
- 14:57Speaker 1: Epstein filed his will in the US Verse Islands and
- 15:00Speaker 1: placed Indyke and Khan, his longtime corporate attorneys, as the
- 15:04Speaker 1: heads of his estate. The move was seen as complicating
- 15:08Speaker 1: a host of civil cases seeking to recover money from
- 15:11Speaker 1: his personal finances and shadowy business network that was alleged
- 15:15Speaker 1: to have enabled his abuses. While his death in federal
- 15:19Speaker 1: custody ended the criminal case against him. A criminal investigation
- 15:23Speaker 1: of Epstein's associates remains ongoing, and I think that's another
- 15:29Speaker 1: important part down there at the bottom, when getting some
- 15:33Speaker 1: corroboration here from law dot com that there is a
- 15:37Speaker 1: criminal investigation ongoing into Jeffrey Epstein's associates. Law dot com
- 15:43Speaker 1: has sources, they know what's going on. They have their
- 15:45Speaker 1: finger on the pulse, especially in New York when it
- 15:48Speaker 1: comes to the legal system and the cases that are
- 15:52Speaker 1: making their way through the court docket. So anytime I
- 15:56Speaker 1: can get an article from law dot com on one
- 15:58Speaker 1: of these topics, I think it's a a pretty good
- 16:02Speaker 1: addition to the catalog. So you see, folks, it's starting
- 16:07Speaker 1: to move right. They're starting to get a little bit
- 16:08Speaker 1: of light at the end of the tunnel for these survivors.
- 16:11Speaker 1: And you know, it's not complete and utter victory for them,
- 16:17Speaker 1: and it's not complete closure for a lot of them,
- 16:20Speaker 1: but what it is, it's a step in the right direction.
- 16:22Speaker 1: And I think the most important part that we could
- 16:25Speaker 1: take out of all of this, at least in my opinion,
- 16:28Speaker 1: what I take out of this, and I find to
- 16:30Speaker 1: be the most important part, is the acknowledgment of wrongdoing
- 16:35Speaker 1: by the estate and by Epstein. I think that is
- 16:38Speaker 1: so huge, so huge to put a stamp on this.
- 16:43Speaker 1: Moving forward, as we enter into the criminal aspect of
- 16:49Speaker 1: this case, we'll be able to look back and say,
- 16:53Speaker 1: all right, well, stamp that civil case. The survivors got
- 16:57Speaker 1: that victory. And now the only thing missing are these
- 17:03Speaker 1: people being prosecuted and purp walked for their crimes. And
- 17:07Speaker 1: when that happens, well, I'll tell you what, folks, that'll
- 17:12Speaker 1: be the day. Huh, that'll be something. The day we
- 17:14Speaker 1: see Gilaane Maxwell slapped in bracelets and purp walked will
- 17:19Speaker 1: be the day that your buddy here, Bobby, will pop
- 17:24Speaker 1: a bottle on the air and drink it. I don't
- 17:28Speaker 1: even drink, but that's the kind of celebration I'll be
- 17:31Speaker 1: ready for, because it's time. It is time for these
- 17:36Speaker 1: people to pay the price for their crimes. They've operated
- 17:41Speaker 1: in the shadows for far too long. They've operated within
- 17:47Speaker 1: the darkness for far too long. And now that the
- 17:51Speaker 1: shade has been pulled open and the curtain has been
- 17:54Speaker 1: removed and the sunlight has begun to spill in, they're
- 17:59Speaker 1: scurrying like the cockroaches they are. But this time. They're
- 18:07Speaker 1: not gonna have anybody in the legacy media covering for
- 18:10Speaker 1: them this time. They don't have any friends that are
- 18:14Speaker 1: gonna give them a community deal that covers all of them.
- 18:19Speaker 1: All they have this time is the thought of a
- 18:27Speaker 1: very very long time in prison, just as soon as
- 18:33Speaker 1: Berman decides to do his job. If you'd like to
- 18:39Speaker 1: contact me, you can do that at Bobby Kapuci at
- 18:41Speaker 1: ProtonMail dot com. That's bo b b y c ap
- 18:45Speaker 1: U c c I at ProtonMail dot com. You can
- 18:48Speaker 1: also find me on Twitter at Bobby Underscore c ap
- 18:52Speaker 1: U c c I. All Right, this morning, we're going
- 18:55Speaker 1: to hop back down to the Virgin Islands and take
- 18:57Speaker 1: a look at the progress of the compensation fund and
- 19:01Speaker 1: just exactly where we're at in that situation. We've been
- 19:06Speaker 1: following this from the beginning, from the second it started
- 19:09Speaker 1: in the court down there, and we know that it
- 19:11Speaker 1: has been an all out battle royale between all sides.
- 19:16Speaker 1: The Estate, of course, wants a favorable term for them,
- 19:21Speaker 1: the Virgin Islands and Denise George. Well, they don't only
- 19:24Speaker 1: want convictions and compensation for the survivors. Well, no, they
- 19:28Speaker 1: think that the Virgin Islands itself is a survivor, and
- 19:31Speaker 1: the Virgin Islands should be compensated financially as well. You
- 19:35Speaker 1: all know how I feel about that. I think that's
- 19:38Speaker 1: a big load of bullshit. I think it's garbage, and
- 19:41Speaker 1: I think it's disgusting, honestly that they would even try
- 19:45Speaker 1: and position themselves as an entity that's going to get
- 19:48Speaker 1: some money out of this, considering all of the favorable
- 19:52Speaker 1: situations and the favorable spots Jeffrey Epstein was put in
- 19:56Speaker 1: within the Virgin Islands from elected officials and bureaucrat and
- 20:00Speaker 1: people in places of power. So it's a hard sell
- 20:04Speaker 1: for anybody, I think at this point to try and
- 20:07Speaker 1: sell them that the Virgin Islands was in fact a
- 20:10Speaker 1: victim in this case, and that the Virgin Islands is
- 20:12Speaker 1: entitled to some of the money from the compensation fund.
- 20:17Speaker 1: All of that money, every last dollar, should go to
- 20:20Speaker 1: these survivors, every single dollar, not half, not a portion,
- 20:27Speaker 1: not a pro rated amount, none of that. All of
- 20:29Speaker 1: it should be distributed to these survivors. And I don't
- 20:33Speaker 1: really know if this is the situation where these people
- 20:41Speaker 1: from the estate want to play games, right, they're already
- 20:44Speaker 1: under the microscope. Everybody's already paying attention to everything that's
- 20:47Speaker 1: going on down there, everything that they're doing, and you know,
- 20:51Speaker 1: they better come correct with their proposals because I know
- 20:58Speaker 1: for a fact that there are some girls who are
- 21:00Speaker 1: involved down there whose lawyers are not going to be
- 21:03Speaker 1: bullied into taking some kind of deal that they don't
- 21:06Speaker 1: feel is right for their client. Now, there might be
- 21:09Speaker 1: other lawyers who do the opposite, because we all know
- 21:12Speaker 1: not everybody has honor. We all know not everybody cares
- 21:16Speaker 1: about these survivors, and there are some people who only
- 21:19Speaker 1: care about benefiting off of their backs. And there are
- 21:23Speaker 1: a lot of people out there like that, unfortunately, a
- 21:26Speaker 1: lot of grifters, and a lot of people who will
- 21:30Speaker 1: do anything anything to avoid taking responsibility for what has occurred.
- 21:40Speaker 1: And this whole entire case is littered with people like that,
- 21:44Speaker 1: all right, So our article is from the Herald Daily,
- 21:49Speaker 1: the Herald Dalemedia dot com, the Herald Mailmedia dot com
- 21:54Speaker 1: excuse me and the headline Epstein's sex Abuse Victims Fund
- 22:00Speaker 1: moving forward soon, Estate says, and the author is Bob
- 22:04Speaker 1: van Vories from Bloomberg News. So I guess this was
- 22:07Speaker 1: originally published in Bloomberg and The Herald Male ran it.
- 22:13Speaker 1: So the original publication you can find at Bloomberg News.
- 22:18Speaker 1: All right, onto the article. A fund to compensate abuse
- 22:22Speaker 1: for victims of financier pedophile Jeffrey Epstein, who killed himself
- 22:26Speaker 1: in August while awaiting trial on sex trafficking charges will
- 22:29Speaker 1: move forward soon. A lawyer for his estate said, well,
- 22:33Speaker 1: that's all fine and well maybe from the estates standpoint
- 22:36Speaker 1: and from their point of view, the fund is going
- 22:38Speaker 1: to move forward. But that doesn't mean that Denise George
- 22:42Speaker 1: or the attorneys for the survivors are going to just
- 22:46Speaker 1: jump on board and sign off on whatever garbage you
- 22:49Speaker 1: put forward. And again, look, I don't trust any of
- 22:53Speaker 1: these players for the estate. I don't trust Lennett, I
- 22:55Speaker 1: don't know. I certainly don't trust Bennett Moskowitz. I don't
- 22:59Speaker 1: trust con or Indyke or anybody, to be frank with you,
- 23:03Speaker 1: who has anything to do with the estate. The lawyer
- 23:08Speaker 1: Bennett Moskovitz said in a phone conference with a federal
- 23:11Speaker 1: Magistrate Judge Friday that he believes delays caused by related
- 23:15Speaker 1: litigation in the US Virgin Islands appear to be resolved,
- 23:19Speaker 1: and that the estate aspects expects to begin putting a
- 23:22Speaker 1: plan for the fund into effect June fifteenth, and now
- 23:27Speaker 1: you see why the judge in the Annie Farmer and
- 23:34Speaker 1: Gilean Maxwell's civil suit wants a update on the in
- 23:39Speaker 1: the middle of the month because it has to do
- 23:41Speaker 1: with the compensation fund and the criminal case. While I
- 23:44Speaker 1: don't agree with that decision, you see it here as
- 23:47Speaker 1: to what she's doing, what her motivation is, and the
- 23:51Speaker 1: way she is perceiving things. The program's going to go
- 23:56Speaker 1: forward very soon. I'm confident of that, Moskovitz told Registrate
- 24:00Speaker 1: Judge Deborah Freeman. He said, sixty nine women, the vast
- 24:04Speaker 1: majority of those with abuse claims against Epstein, have come
- 24:08Speaker 1: forward to support the program. Well, that's fine and well
- 24:11Speaker 1: for those who have come forward to support the program,
- 24:13Speaker 1: but what about those ladies who don't support the program.
- 24:16Speaker 1: They shouldn't be forced to jump on board. They shouldn't
- 24:19Speaker 1: be forced to follow the crowd. If they don't feel
- 24:21Speaker 1: like it's personally beneficial to them to sign off on
- 24:24Speaker 1: this compensation fund, they should not do it, and they
- 24:27Speaker 1: should pursue their portion of the estate in whichever way
- 24:31Speaker 1: that their lawyer and their legal team sees fit. Again,
- 24:34Speaker 1: I'm certainly not a lawyer right. I don't know. I
- 24:36Speaker 1: don't know how to put forth a proper LOS strategy,
- 24:39Speaker 1: but I will tell you this. I will tell you this.
- 24:43Speaker 1: It would be an absolute scorched earth strategy for me.
- 24:48Speaker 1: If I was a lawyer at this point, I would
- 24:50Speaker 1: go for the jugular of all of these people, and
- 24:53Speaker 1: every single person that was involved would be on my
- 24:56Speaker 1: list for somebody that would be getting sued, because there
- 24:59Speaker 1: are so many people who had knowledge of this, There
- 25:02Speaker 1: are so many people who were involved in this, and
- 25:05Speaker 1: there were so many people who still to this day
- 25:08Speaker 1: decide to keep their mouths shut instead of coming forward
- 25:12Speaker 1: and helping out these young ladies who have had to
- 25:15Speaker 1: shoulder this burden for their whole lives. What sort of
- 25:18Speaker 1: scumbag can look in the mirror and have information about
- 25:22Speaker 1: something like this and not come forward. What sort of
- 25:25Speaker 1: scumbag can live with themselves like that? Well, obviously there's
- 25:29Speaker 1: all sorts of scumbags littered all over this case, folks,
- 25:31Speaker 1: Because every single one of these people who enabled Jeffrey
- 25:35Speaker 1: Epstein and who had even an inkling of what was
- 25:37Speaker 1: going on and didn't come forward, well, every single one
- 25:41Speaker 1: of them is responsible for what occurred in their own
- 25:46Speaker 1: little way. Everybody owns a little piece of it his
- 25:49Speaker 1: whole circle. But a lawyer for four victims survivors who
- 25:55Speaker 1: have sued Epstein expressed skepticism. I have no confidence that
- 25:59Speaker 1: that is something that will necessarily move forward on that date,
- 26:02Speaker 1: said Sigrid McCauley, pointing out she had received nothing in
- 26:05Speaker 1: writing from the Virgin Islands to confirm resolution of matters
- 26:08Speaker 1: in dispute. And that's what I'm talking about here. How,
- 26:10Speaker 1: some of the girl's lawyers are very skeptical still about this.
- 26:14Speaker 1: And you'll notice which lawyers are skeptical and which ones
- 26:18Speaker 1: are running and rushing to get this signed off. You know. Again,
- 26:23Speaker 1: I hate to be cynical about things, but I wonder
- 26:26Speaker 1: somehow what the portion some of these lawyers are taking
- 26:29Speaker 1: from their clients. If it was me as a lawyer,
- 26:32Speaker 1: I would be doing all of this pro bono, and
- 26:35Speaker 1: not only doing it pro bono, I would be doing
- 26:38Speaker 1: my best to help the girls as they navigate their
- 26:42Speaker 1: way through this, as far as helping them get the
- 26:44Speaker 1: mental health help that they need or if they need
- 26:48Speaker 1: help go getting schooling or whatever it may be. That's
- 26:51Speaker 1: what I would be doing as a lawyer. And some
- 26:53Speaker 1: of these girls have that right. There are some lawyers
- 26:56Speaker 1: that have been that kind of person to them. Brad Edwards,
- 26:59Speaker 1: cigarette Sigared McCauley's been great, and there's others as well.
- 27:03Speaker 1: But there are some shysters out there, folks. We know
- 27:05Speaker 1: that we know about the ambulance chasers of the world.
- 27:08Speaker 1: We know about the lawyers who are just seeking fame.
- 27:10Speaker 1: We know about the lawyers are just trying to stamp
- 27:12Speaker 1: their name on something to you know, build their own profile.
- 27:18Speaker 1: And we've seen the way they conduct themselves, and we
- 27:20Speaker 1: know that they don't care about their clients for the
- 27:22Speaker 1: most part. I mean, just for example, look at the
- 27:26Speaker 1: way Gloria Alred treated Maria when Maria Farmer called Gloria Alred.
- 27:30Speaker 1: It's an absolute travesty. And yet this woman runs around
- 27:34Speaker 1: like she is this big women's advocate and this great
- 27:38Speaker 1: fighter for women's justice, and it's just all you know
- 27:41Speaker 1: what it's like with all of these people, law enforcement,
- 27:45Speaker 1: not excuse me, not law enforcement, but the judges, the lawyers,
- 27:48Speaker 1: all of these people. They get into the courtrooms and stuff,
- 27:51Speaker 1: and they act like they don't like each other, and
- 27:52Speaker 1: then afterwards they're all hanging out swilling down bourbon and whiskey.
- 27:56Speaker 1: It's like watching WWE. While they're in the ring, they
- 27:59Speaker 1: all eight each other, but afterwards they're all friends. They're
- 28:02Speaker 1: all getting on with each other. And you know what,
- 28:05Speaker 1: it's a big, a big, gigantic club that none of
- 28:08Speaker 1: us are ever going to be invited to. Epstein hanged
- 28:13Speaker 1: himself allegedly in a Manhattan federal jail cell about five
- 28:17Speaker 1: weeks after he was arrested on federal charges of trafficking
- 28:20Speaker 1: underage girls for sex. After his death, the executors of
- 28:25Speaker 1: his estate proposed using his wealth to create a fund
- 28:28Speaker 1: to confidentially compensate his victims as an alternate alternative to lawsuits.
- 28:34Speaker 1: And guess what. In my opinion, the whole motivation behind
- 28:38Speaker 1: that with con and Indyke is especially for Indyke, he
- 28:41Speaker 1: understands that his name is on so many of the
- 28:44Speaker 1: documents signed by Jeffrey Epstein. This man should not be
- 28:47Speaker 1: an executor of the estate. This man should be facing
- 28:50Speaker 1: rico charges himself. And I would not be shocked going
- 28:54Speaker 1: forward if this case moves in a direction that we
- 28:57Speaker 1: think it might move in. If Indyke is not slapped
- 29:01Speaker 1: with tons of rico charges, I'm not talking about two
- 29:04Speaker 1: or three, folks. I'm talking about when they slap you
- 29:06Speaker 1: with these reco charges, sometimes you'll get hit with one
- 29:09Speaker 1: hundred of them. I know somebody that was hit with
- 29:12Speaker 1: one hundred different kinds of reco charges, literally one hundred
- 29:15Speaker 1: and three to be exact. And this person was litigated
- 29:21Speaker 1: into the poorhouse. And we're not talking about a poor
- 29:23Speaker 1: person here. We're talking about somebody who had funds, somebody
- 29:26Speaker 1: who had money, and they were litigated into the poorhouse
- 29:30Speaker 1: and forced to take a plea deal basically because the
- 29:33Speaker 1: FBI threatened to go after their family, threatened to go
- 29:36Speaker 1: after everybody they ever gave money to. But yet these
- 29:44Speaker 1: scumbags like Endyke and Gilann Maxwell, they don't have that
- 29:47Speaker 1: same pressure turned up on them. They they don't have
- 29:50Speaker 1: their kids walking home from school and the FBI rolling
- 29:53Speaker 1: up on them threatening to you know, arrest their father
- 29:55Speaker 1: or their grandfather or their uncle and threatened to interrogate
- 29:59Speaker 1: them even though they're underage. Well, you don't think that
- 30:02Speaker 1: shit happens, folks. I know it does. I've lived it.
- 30:07Speaker 1: The FBI is corrupt, okay. The FBI does not care
- 30:12Speaker 1: about you or me or anybody else. Again, like the
- 30:16Speaker 1: rest of these scumbags, it's all about the consolidation of
- 30:19Speaker 1: power and controlling the narrative. The plan had an obstacle
- 30:27Speaker 1: when the Attorney General of the US Virgin Islands sued
- 30:30Speaker 1: the estate in a local court in January, seeking civil penalties,
- 30:34Speaker 1: damages forfeiture of Epstein's private islands in the US territory
- 30:38Speaker 1: where he took many of his victims, and restitution for
- 30:41Speaker 1: local women who he also abused. The action effectively froze
- 30:46Speaker 1: the estate's assets and has delayed the compensation program from
- 30:49Speaker 1: going forward. And here is my problem with Denise George.
- 30:54Speaker 1: She wanted to seek civil penalties and damages and forfeiture
- 30:58Speaker 1: of the islands in the USA territory two the authorities
- 31:03Speaker 1: of the US Virgin Islands, and then they'd be able
- 31:06Speaker 1: to sell that property off. Right now, the part here
- 31:09Speaker 1: where restitution for local women that he also abused. That
- 31:12Speaker 1: is certainly something I agree with, and that is certainly
- 31:15Speaker 1: something that should be added to whatever payout situation occurs,
- 31:19Speaker 1: because how many local girls and local women were abused
- 31:22Speaker 1: in the Virgin Islands. You see, folks, whenever there's great poverty,
- 31:26Speaker 1: these predators see opportunity and we know that there is
- 31:32Speaker 1: great poverty in places like the Virgin Islands in some areas,
- 31:36Speaker 1: And we know that Jeffrey Epstein was a legitimate predator.
- 31:41Speaker 1: That is what he lived for. Girls who came from
- 31:43Speaker 1: ab abusive homes, broken homes, girls who didn't have money,
- 31:47Speaker 1: girls who were struggling to get by. And if you
- 31:50Speaker 1: never grew up, if you've never grown up poor, then
- 31:52Speaker 1: you don't understand. You just don't understand what two hundred
- 31:55Speaker 1: dollars means to you. And nobody could ever make you
- 31:58Speaker 1: understand that unless you grew up poor where you didn't
- 32:01Speaker 1: know where your next meal was coming from sometimes, or
- 32:04Speaker 1: when you didn't have you know, the the Jordans, or
- 32:07Speaker 1: you didn't grow up and you didn't have whatever the
- 32:10Speaker 1: designer clothes were, two hundred dollars is a big deal,
- 32:13Speaker 1: especially when you're impressionable, especially when you're naive, and especially
- 32:16Speaker 1: when you think you're just going to give somebody a massage.
- 32:22Speaker 1: So to think that that wasn't occurring in the Virgin Islands,
- 32:26Speaker 1: you would have to be naive to believe so. In
- 32:28Speaker 1: my personal opinion, there are certainly local girls and local
- 32:32Speaker 1: women who have been abused by Jeffrey Epstein, and either
- 32:37Speaker 1: they have just decided not to speak out or they
- 32:41Speaker 1: are still just too afraid to do so. Imagine being
- 32:47Speaker 1: someone who's poor and you walk into all of this
- 32:49Speaker 1: opulence and wealth and this big mansion and this beach resort,
- 32:53Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, and you look at
- 32:55Speaker 1: the wall and he's shaking hands with Clinton, he's shaking
- 32:57Speaker 1: hands with Trump, He's shaking hands with this powerful person,
- 33:01Speaker 1: that powerful person. It's intimidating. It is certainly intimidating for adults. Now,
- 33:07Speaker 1: imagine being a young girl and this man's telling you
- 33:10Speaker 1: that you're going to have to perform these disgusting sexual
- 33:12Speaker 1: acts on him. And what he's doing is he's projecting
- 33:16Speaker 1: his power without even having to say it, by showing
- 33:19Speaker 1: you all of the powerful people he was hanging out around.
- 33:22Speaker 1: So I definitely like, I think that that's something that
- 33:25Speaker 1: should be added to the compensation fund for sure, restitution
- 33:29Speaker 1: for the local women, but not only local women in
- 33:32Speaker 1: the Virgin Islands. I think there should be a pool
- 33:34Speaker 1: set up for women who have not come forward so
- 33:36Speaker 1: far in places like Santa Fe, Albuquerque, Palm Beach, New York,
- 33:42Speaker 1: wherever it may be who have not come forward, there
- 33:45Speaker 1: should be a pool set aside, because I know that
- 33:48Speaker 1: there is going to be a wave of young girls
- 33:51Speaker 1: and women coming forward in these states at some point.
- 33:53Speaker 1: I just have a gut feeling because I just I
- 33:56Speaker 1: can't believe that he was only up to his tricks
- 33:59Speaker 1: in Palm Beach, New York, especially considering the poverty in
- 34:03Speaker 1: Albuquerque and how easy it would be for him to
- 34:05Speaker 1: use that as a fertile hunting ground for these young ladies. So, folks,
- 34:12Speaker 1: who knows what's going to happen with this compensation fund?
- 34:15Speaker 1: The estate says June fifteenth, I kind of fall on
- 34:18Speaker 1: the side of Cigarete Macauley here and say, I don't
- 34:20Speaker 1: think it's going to be that soon. I still think
- 34:22Speaker 1: there are roadblocks. I still think that there are there
- 34:25Speaker 1: are hurdles, and I still think that the fund is
- 34:30Speaker 1: not set up in a manner that is beneficial to
- 34:34Speaker 1: the survivors in my personal opinion. So we're gonna keep
- 34:39Speaker 1: our eye on it. We're going to keep following it,
- 34:40Speaker 1: and I will bring you updates as they occur. All Right, everybody,
- 34:45Speaker 1: that'll be it for today. If you'd like to contact me.
- 34:47Speaker 1: You can do that at Bobby Kapuchi at protonmeil dot com.
- 34:50Speaker 1: That's b O. B. B Y c ap use Cci
- 34:53Speaker 1: at protonmeil dot com. You can all. Well, this article
- 34:57Speaker 1: we're going to talk about tonight, folks, is going to
- 35:00Speaker 1: enrage a whole lot of you. Of that, I am sure. Now,
- 35:05Speaker 1: a little background. We know that one of the Core
- 35:09Speaker 1: four was suing the Epstein estate saying that she was
- 35:15Speaker 1: also a victim. Now, when you add up all of
- 35:21Speaker 1: the information that we had available to us, and again
- 35:25Speaker 1: just the information that is available publicly, and you look
- 35:29Speaker 1: at the ages and timeframes, it's obvious that the person
- 35:34Speaker 1: who was suing Jeffrey Epstein in claiming victimhood was Sarah
- 35:39Speaker 1: Kellen Vickers, one of the main members of the Core Four,
- 35:44Speaker 1: Gilaine Maxwell's chief lieutenant, is claiming that she was a
- 35:50Speaker 1: victim of Jeffrey Epstein's and that she was abused and
- 35:55Speaker 1: coerced and basically she he had mind control over her
- 36:01Speaker 1: and put her in the position that she was in
- 36:05Speaker 1: and she was forced into that position because of his
- 36:09Speaker 1: extreme power. And while that is an argument that I
- 36:15Speaker 1: would be sympathetic of, right if the other pieces would
- 36:21Speaker 1: make sense, such as after Jeffrey Epstein gets arrested, why
- 36:25Speaker 1: didn't she come forward then? Why did she wait until
- 36:30Speaker 1: now until the heat is really on her, until she
- 36:33Speaker 1: knows that the non prosecution agreement might be going to
- 36:37Speaker 1: the wayside. If you were abused by Jeffrey Epstein like
- 36:43Speaker 1: this the way she is claiming, then you would think
- 36:46Speaker 1: that you would have wanted to see him behind bars
- 36:49Speaker 1: for the rest of his life after that first time around,
- 36:53Speaker 1: you wouldn't be part of the non prosecution agreement, right,
- 36:57Speaker 1: I mean, I get it, Stockholm syndrome and all of that,
- 37:00Speaker 1: as I'm certainly not a psychologist, and I can only
- 37:03Speaker 1: offer my opinion in this situation, just like in other situations,
- 37:09Speaker 1: And for me, I don't really buy this story by
- 37:16Speaker 1: we'll call her Jane Doe for now. But all of
- 37:20Speaker 1: the circumstantial evidence obviously adds up to it being Sarah
- 37:25Speaker 1: kell and Vickers, I would think, and the fact that
- 37:31Speaker 1: she's claiming to be a victim here, considering the depth
- 37:38Speaker 1: of the evidence against her as being part of not
- 37:42Speaker 1: only the grooming process but participating in some time in
- 37:45Speaker 1: some cases, it's she's gonna have to come with a
- 37:50Speaker 1: lot more than that. Right, It is not a I
- 37:54Speaker 1: don't think this is going to work out for her.
- 37:56Speaker 1: I don't think that she's going to be able to
- 38:00Speaker 1: avoid the criminal side of this, no matter what happens civilly,
- 38:06Speaker 1: And again speculation on my part. It could simply be
- 38:10Speaker 1: she is doing this to try and fortify herself for
- 38:15Speaker 1: a criminal case, to set the tone. Right, if she
- 38:17Speaker 1: gets a payout from the estate, she can use that
- 38:21Speaker 1: to beef up her own defense that she was also
- 38:25Speaker 1: a victim, right, So that could definitely be a strategy
- 38:28Speaker 1: that they're looking at. Who knows, right, who knows what's
- 38:33Speaker 1: going on with these lawyers and what sort of back
- 38:37Speaker 1: room you know, manipulating and high wire act is taking place.
- 38:43Speaker 1: But to me personally, I find this obscene that this
- 38:48Speaker 1: person would think that she's going to get a payout
- 38:52Speaker 1: from the same people that she helped abuse. It's just
- 38:57Speaker 1: I don't understand how it could even be a conversation, right,
- 39:02Speaker 1: And it all goes back to the original deal, the
- 39:05Speaker 1: non prosecution agreement. If that was never put into place,
- 39:09Speaker 1: and these four girls, the core four, weren't named in
- 39:12Speaker 1: the non prosecution agreement, this could have all been rectified
- 39:16Speaker 1: A very long time ago, and that's why I think
- 39:19Speaker 1: one of the most crucial points of this case is
- 39:24Speaker 1: coming up on December third. I think that is going
- 39:27Speaker 1: to be a real fulcrum in this case, and it's
- 39:31Speaker 1: going to really dictate how things move forward. So I
- 39:37Speaker 1: really hope that, you know, the December third hearing in
- 39:42Speaker 1: front of the Eleventh Circuit renders all of this kind
- 39:44Speaker 1: of stuff moot, because if the NPA goes out the window,
- 39:48Speaker 1: then it doesn't matter what sort of defense she's going
- 39:51Speaker 1: to use here claiming that she's a victim as well
- 39:54Speaker 1: or any of that other stuff. A jury of her
- 39:58Speaker 1: peers is going to see through it, and she's not
- 40:00Speaker 1: going to escape punishment here. I don't think, in my
- 40:03Speaker 1: opinion anyway, does she maybe roll over on Maxwell. I
- 40:07Speaker 1: don't know. She's had all this time to come forward
- 40:10Speaker 1: and she hasn't done so, And for me, that's a
- 40:13Speaker 1: big red flag, A huge red flag. You would think
- 40:16Speaker 1: that if you were being manipulated into a situation the
- 40:20Speaker 1: way that she, you know, she claims that she was,
- 40:23Speaker 1: that when Epstein was put behind bars, she would come
- 40:27Speaker 1: forward and help bolster the case against him to ensure
- 40:32Speaker 1: that he never gets out of prison again. But instead
- 40:35Speaker 1: she kept her pleasant relationship with him, she kept working
- 40:39Speaker 1: out of the apartment that was provided for. You know,
- 40:43Speaker 1: all of that stuff cannot be overlooked. So she's going
- 40:48Speaker 1: to have an uphill battle when it comes to trying
- 40:52Speaker 1: to wriggle out of this and the audacity and the
- 40:57Speaker 1: gall it takes to try and get money out of
- 41:01Speaker 1: this victim's survivors. I mean, this victim's compensation fund is
- 41:05Speaker 1: just I don't even know what to say about it.
- 41:07Speaker 1: It's gross, right, I don't even know. I mean, sheesh,
- 41:14Speaker 1: all right, So let's jump into this article. This article
- 41:18Speaker 1: is from Okay magazine headline Jeffrey Epstein recruiter set to
- 41:24Speaker 1: get payout from victim relief fund. This article was authored
- 41:29Speaker 1: by Chris Spargo. A Jane Doe, who was twenty two
- 41:34Speaker 1: when she met Epstein is suing the estate. So you
- 41:37Speaker 1: look at the numbers. Who was twenty two when they
- 41:40Speaker 1: met Epstein according to the reports? Right? Not marsen Kova,
- 41:44Speaker 1: not Adriana Ross, not Leslie Groff. That just leaves us
- 41:47Speaker 1: with one person. Correct. This article is by Chris Spargo,
- 41:53Speaker 1: who once again is ahead of things. A woman who
- 41:57Speaker 1: helped recruit underage Girls for Jeffrey Epstein has been approved
- 42:01Speaker 1: to submit her claims to the Victim Compensation Program after
- 42:05Speaker 1: claiming she was trafficked and raped for over a decade.
- 42:09Speaker 1: So she has been approved to submit her claims to
- 42:12Speaker 1: the fund. That doesn't mean that they're going to approve
- 42:15Speaker 1: dispersal of funds, though. Is it possible that they do.
- 42:20Speaker 1: Look again, I'm very cynical about the whole process at
- 42:24Speaker 1: this point, and it would just be par for the
- 42:28Speaker 1: course if they did distribute money to this person, right,
- 42:32Speaker 1: So I wouldn't be shocked if they do. Should they
- 42:35Speaker 1: absolutely not. The woman in question filed a lawsuit under
- 42:41Speaker 1: the pseudonym Jane Doe back in March. Then on November two,
- 42:46Speaker 1: her court case against Epstein's estate and its executors was
- 42:49Speaker 1: put on hold as her lawyers informed the judge that
- 42:52Speaker 1: their client was seeking a payout from the Victim's Compensation Program.
- 42:58Speaker 1: This was all approved by the executor of Epstein's estate,
- 43:02Speaker 1: Darren Endyke, who is named defendant in the case. And again,
- 43:05Speaker 1: here is a huge problem in my opinion, from my
- 43:09Speaker 1: vantage point of not being a legal expert, anyway, I
- 43:13Speaker 1: don't see how Darren Endyke or Khan can be the
- 43:17Speaker 1: executors of this estate when they're named as co conspirators
- 43:21Speaker 1: by several several several different people. How does that jive?
- 43:28Speaker 1: How does that work? How is there no conflict of interest?
- 43:33Speaker 1: And is it a shock that Indike and Khan would
- 43:36Speaker 1: approve something like this if it would take some of
- 43:39Speaker 1: the heat off of them them. Perhaps they worked with
- 43:42Speaker 1: the Core four for all of those years very closely,
- 43:46Speaker 1: so it's not like this is somebody they don't know.
- 43:51Speaker 1: It is a very odd situation to me that Indike
- 43:54Speaker 1: and Khan would still be executors of this state, considering
- 43:59Speaker 1: the vast involvement. There is no name given and no address,
- 44:06Speaker 1: but the timeline provided by Jane Doe matches up with
- 44:10Speaker 1: one of Epstein's co conspirators. Her March complaint states, Jane
- 44:15Speaker 1: Doe seeks justice for the sexual crimes perpetrated against her
- 44:19Speaker 1: by Jeffrey Epstein over the course of many years, and
- 44:23Speaker 1: for the abuse, manipulation, and exploitation she suffered at his hands.
- 44:30Speaker 1: So again, when you look at the timeline, you look
- 44:33Speaker 1: at all of the other information that we have, and
- 44:39Speaker 1: you start going through the list of who it can't be,
- 44:42Speaker 1: You're only left with Sarah Kelln Vickers here, folks, and
- 44:46Speaker 1: it looks like Sarah Kelln Vickers is all in. She
- 44:49Speaker 1: just pushed all her chips to the middle of the
- 44:51Speaker 1: table and she's rolling with this. She was a victim
- 44:55Speaker 1: routine and defense. Now. I don't know how the prosecutors
- 45:01Speaker 1: are going to look at this, but if it was me, well,
- 45:06Speaker 1: she'd be in for a long day. And there is
- 45:12Speaker 1: no excuse for her not coming forward after Epstein was
- 45:15Speaker 1: arrested the first time or the second time, in my opinion,
- 45:19Speaker 1: huge red flag if you worked for somebody, or you
- 45:23Speaker 1: were put to some sort of servitude by somebody and
- 45:29Speaker 1: they were finally in the hands of the authorities the
- 45:33Speaker 1: second time around. I mean, the first time around, I
- 45:36Speaker 1: guess you could say, all right, well, he was very powerful.
- 45:38Speaker 1: I was scared. But the second time around, there's just
- 45:42Speaker 1: no excuse the second time around. In my opinion, I
- 45:46Speaker 1: think that if you're in that situation where supposedly all
- 45:51Speaker 1: of this was happening, you wouldn't be benefiting still years
- 45:54Speaker 1: after the man was arrested, years after you supposedly had
- 45:58Speaker 1: no relationship with him anymore, still benefiting from your relationship
- 46:03Speaker 1: that you had with him. So according to you previously,
- 46:09Speaker 1: it just does not add up to somebody who was
- 46:12Speaker 1: abused in the manner that she's saying she was abused. Now,
- 46:16Speaker 1: am I saying that Jeffrey Epstein didn't have some sort
- 46:19Speaker 1: of control over her. No, I'm not saying that at all.
- 46:22Speaker 1: He was the one who was providing the money and
- 46:24Speaker 1: the lifestyle and all of that is it becomes infectious, right.
- 46:31Speaker 1: These people get a little taste of it and they
- 46:33Speaker 1: want more. So she was in love with the lifestyle.
- 46:37Speaker 1: She didn't want it to go away. She went in
- 46:40Speaker 1: with both eyes open, and she knew that what she
- 46:44Speaker 1: was doing, as far as recruiting and grooming and all
- 46:47Speaker 1: of this other jazz to help progress Jeffrey Epstein's proclivities
- 46:53Speaker 1: and his disgusting behavior, she knew it was all wrong,
- 46:56Speaker 1: and she engaged in it anyway for self benefit. And
- 47:00Speaker 1: now when all of the cards are tumbling down, she's
- 47:05Speaker 1: thrown up the hell Mary here, hoping beyond hope that
- 47:09Speaker 1: she'll get some empathy from some quarter. Well, I'll tell
- 47:13Speaker 1: you what, I highly doubt the survivors who were abused
- 47:18Speaker 1: by Epstein, who were never part of his cabal. I
- 47:24Speaker 1: have a funny feeling. They're not going to be too
- 47:26Speaker 1: happy with the fact that one of the core four,
- 47:30Speaker 1: looking like Sarah kell and Vickers, obviously, according to the
- 47:33Speaker 1: data that's available to us, has applied to the victim's
- 47:37Speaker 1: fund and might get a payout. Now, is it certain
- 47:40Speaker 1: she'll get paid out? No, of course not. We have
- 47:42Speaker 1: to make sure that, you know, we don't get too
- 47:46Speaker 1: carried away until there's information saying that she does. All
- 47:51Speaker 1: of it's up in the air. We don't know what
- 47:53Speaker 1: way things are going to turn in this case. There's ups,
- 47:56Speaker 1: there's downs, there's cork screws, there's twists, there's turns, and
- 47:59Speaker 1: there's flip phips. Each day we get up and you
- 48:03Speaker 1: never know what you're going to see. When I look
- 48:04Speaker 1: at the news, Who the hell knows what you're going
- 48:07Speaker 1: to see. Maybe you're going to see mass indictments, or
- 48:09Speaker 1: maybe you're going to see that you know, Gilain Maxwell
- 48:12Speaker 1: is out of jail now because of the coronavirus. Who
- 48:15Speaker 1: the hell knows anymore. All we can do is strap
- 48:18Speaker 1: our goggles on, swim upriver through the muck and try
- 48:24Speaker 1: and find some clean water. The lawsuit is about Jane
- 48:32Speaker 1: Doe claiming her power becoming a survivor, not a victim,
- 48:36Speaker 1: and getting restitution for the sexual crimes perpetrated against her.
- 48:41Speaker 1: Jane Doe then identifies herself as a co conspirator in
- 48:45Speaker 1: the complaint while listing the damages she has suffered because
- 48:49Speaker 1: of her ties to Epstein. Her capacity to pursue a
- 48:54Speaker 1: professional career has been severely compromised. Well, you were working
- 49:00Speaker 1: with Epstein, what do you expect Again, she's using the
- 49:04Speaker 1: premise that she was coerced into this, forced into this.
- 49:09Speaker 1: And while it is a try that I guess she
- 49:16Speaker 1: has to make to try and make sure she doesn't
- 49:19Speaker 1: go to prison the rest of her life, I don't
- 49:21Speaker 1: think that this is going to be received by empathetic ears.
- 49:28Speaker 1: Her name and reputation has been ruined, and she is
- 49:32Speaker 1: virtually bankrupt, having been forced to spend most of her
- 49:35Speaker 1: resources defending herself against false accusations, all of which stem
- 49:40Speaker 1: from Epstein's crimes. Then why doesn't she sue some of
- 49:44Speaker 1: these people who have alleged this against her, some of
- 49:46Speaker 1: the girls who have pointed the finger at her, sue
- 49:48Speaker 1: them for defamation, get it into the courts. If that's
- 49:52Speaker 1: the case. If you've been defamed so badly. But you
- 49:55Speaker 1: notice these people never do that. She knows that she's
- 50:02Speaker 1: not that that these claims have they have, they're they're credible,
- 50:07Speaker 1: they have credibility. She knows that she worked for Jeffrey Epstein.
- 50:11Speaker 1: And this is according to all of the reports, according
- 50:14Speaker 1: to the police report. That's what we're going by when
- 50:16Speaker 1: we're talking about the core of four. At least I
- 50:18Speaker 1: am you know, I'm not. I'm not here just pulling
- 50:22Speaker 1: shit off of a blog somewhere and you know, running
- 50:26Speaker 1: off with it. This is actually stuff out of the
- 50:28Speaker 1: police report. They're named in that non prosecution agreement. Why
- 50:32Speaker 1: would Sarah Kellen be named in the non prosecution agreement
- 50:35Speaker 1: if she was also a victim. Don't you think that
- 50:38Speaker 1: she would have been running to Chief Writer's office, balling,
- 50:41Speaker 1: screaming and telling them what was occurring. Or maybe she
- 50:46Speaker 1: really loved that life and she knew exactly what she
- 50:49Speaker 1: was up to and she didn't care as long as
- 50:53Speaker 1: she was benefiting from it personally. Of the four co
- 50:59Speaker 1: conspirators identified by federal prosecutors in Florida, two would have
- 51:03Speaker 1: been much younger than twenty two. In two thousand and one,
- 51:06Speaker 1: when Jane Doe met Epstein, while one was much older
- 51:10Speaker 1: at the time. The youngest, Nadia Marsenkova, was just fourteen
- 51:13Speaker 1: or fifteen and living with Epstein around this time, while
- 51:16Speaker 1: Adriana Muchinska did not start working for Epstein until the
- 51:20Speaker 1: following year. Leslie Groff would have been thirty four years
- 51:24Speaker 1: old in two thousand and one. Only one other person
- 51:28Speaker 1: of interest was named in that investigation, and that is
- 51:32Speaker 1: Sarah Kellen Vickers. Folks, that's where we're at, That's what
- 51:35Speaker 1: we're talking about in this complaint, and it is uh.
- 51:39Speaker 1: I'll tell you, I just don't. I think it's obscene,
- 51:44Speaker 1: the whole entire move here, the whole try here, and
- 51:48Speaker 1: I really hope that the court looks on it the
- 51:51Speaker 1: same way. The complaint is chilling, and that it reveals
- 51:56Speaker 1: Epstein's predatory behaviors were constant. He also so did not
- 52:00Speaker 1: seek consent, according to the initial filing, Jane Doe's lawyers
- 52:05Speaker 1: right so in the complaint that Sarah Kellen Vickers turned
- 52:11Speaker 1: into the court, or we'll say Jane Doe won here
- 52:15Speaker 1: turned into the court. In March, she spoke about the
- 52:21Speaker 1: supposed abuse that she received at the hands of Epstein
- 52:27Speaker 1: now again, we're talking about somebody who was a psycho
- 52:34Speaker 1: fan of Jeffrey Epstein, a complete believer in the whole
- 52:37Speaker 1: entire operation according to eyewitness reports and accounts. Somebody who
- 52:43Speaker 1: had ample chances to go to the authorities after the fact,
- 52:49Speaker 1: somebody who could have stopped this at any time. Now
- 52:53Speaker 1: she is saying that she was also a victim, more
- 52:58Speaker 1: than a decade after the fact, after she's been on
- 53:01Speaker 1: the non prosecution agreement. But now when the heat is
- 53:06Speaker 1: being turned up and the frying pan is starting to
- 53:09Speaker 1: warm under her feet, well, all of a sudden, she
- 53:13Speaker 1: is now also a victim. Very interesting strategy, folks. Nineteen
- 53:20Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein specifically targeted underprivileged, emotionally vulnerable, and or economically
- 53:26Speaker 1: disadvantaged young females exactly like plaintiff, to sexually molest and abuse.
- 53:32Speaker 1: So yeah, that was the strategy, no doubt. But your
- 53:38Speaker 1: client was engaged in that very same strategy. She was
- 53:42Speaker 1: victimizing these other girls from these schools according to reports,
- 53:46Speaker 1: and partaking in the abuse according to some of the girls.
- 53:51Speaker 1: So yeah, she would have a very intimate knowledge about
- 54:00Speaker 1: what Jeffrey Epstein was looking for, considering she was a
- 54:03Speaker 1: taking part twenty. Epstein's continuous psychological and physical control over
- 54:09Speaker 1: Jane Doe facilitated his sexual abuse of her on a
- 54:12Speaker 1: relatively consistent basis for many years. Well, again, why didn't
- 54:19Speaker 1: she come forward when her name was being put on
- 54:23Speaker 1: that non prosecution agreement, when there was a real serious
- 54:27Speaker 1: chance that Epstein could have went to jail for the
- 54:29Speaker 1: rest of his life, When Chief Writer was engaging the
- 54:32Speaker 1: it was engaged in the investigation, when they had all
- 54:36Speaker 1: sorts of federal charges drawn up for Epstein, Why didn't
- 54:40Speaker 1: Sarah Helen Vickers come forward and tell the prosecutors what
- 54:43Speaker 1: these girls are saying is true. You're gonna have to
- 54:49Speaker 1: be the judge of that, folks. You know, we all
- 54:51Speaker 1: have our opinions. I guess in my opinion is it's
- 54:54Speaker 1: because she was a true believer in what they were doing.
- 54:58Speaker 1: She was a believer in Epstein, she was a believer
- 55:00Speaker 1: in Maxwell, and most importantly, she was a believer in
- 55:05Speaker 1: boosting herself up the ladder and being part of what
- 55:10Speaker 1: she was in love with, so called polite society. The
- 55:16Speaker 1: sexual abuse took many forms, including Epstein's rape of plaintiff. Now, look,
- 55:22Speaker 1: I don't think that the raping anyone is okay, right,
- 55:26Speaker 1: And if she was raped by Epstein, well that's just
- 55:30Speaker 1: absolutely disgusting to even think about that. This monster was
- 55:35Speaker 1: doing that as well to even his You know, people
- 55:38Speaker 1: like Vickers, right, But the fact of the matter remains
- 55:43Speaker 1: that Vickers played a crucial part in abusing other people.
- 55:49Speaker 1: Just because you're abused or allegedly abused, doesn't give you
- 55:53Speaker 1: the right to ape that behavior and abuse other people.
- 55:59Speaker 1: While I feel for people like that, no doubt about it,
- 56:02Speaker 1: you still have to suffer the consequences of your actions.
- 56:08Speaker 1: And that goes doubly for people who don't come forward
- 56:12Speaker 1: and talk to the authorities and try and help all
- 56:16Speaker 1: of the other people who were victimized. Right, you were around,
- 56:22Speaker 1: if you were older than a lot of these girls,
- 56:24Speaker 1: you were being victimized. To yourself, Epstein goes to jail
- 56:28Speaker 1: or the authorities finally started investigating him. You don't go
- 56:31Speaker 1: on the lolo to talk to them. You don't go
- 56:34Speaker 1: and talk to them hushed, hushed. Of course you do
- 56:40Speaker 1: if you really feel like your life's in jeopardy and
- 56:44Speaker 1: you're being abused this way. Several chances she let go,
- 56:49Speaker 1: and not only that, she was also still benefiting financially
- 56:53Speaker 1: from her relationship with Epstein. So it's not like somebody
- 56:57Speaker 1: who was, you know, living completely and shuddered in a
- 57:03Speaker 1: basement or anything like that. She had ample opportunity to
- 57:06Speaker 1: get away from him. Look how Virginia got away into Thailand.
- 57:11Speaker 1: So again, I know that Jeffrey Epstein was a sick
- 57:16Speaker 1: bastard and he abused, like I said last night, probably
- 57:21Speaker 1: hundreds of women and girls. But this defense by Jane
- 57:26Speaker 1: Doe one here is not really going to cut it.
- 57:31Speaker 1: I don't think. I think people are going to see
- 57:33Speaker 1: through it, and I think people are going to punch
- 57:35Speaker 1: a bunch of holes in it. He would also enter
- 57:39Speaker 1: Jane Doe's room and get into her bed while she
- 57:42Speaker 1: was sleeping, and then fondle or penetrate her with his fingers.
- 57:46Speaker 1: This occurred often and repetialy. He often directed her to
- 57:51Speaker 1: undress and pose in certain ways, and or touch to
- 57:54Speaker 1: him and herself while he masturbated. This occurred often and repeatedly.
- 58:00Speaker 1: Epstein frequently directed Jane Doe to turn her head back
- 58:04Speaker 1: during their sexual encounters, telling her that he did not
- 58:07Speaker 1: want to see her face. Epstein also repeatedly required Jane
- 58:12Speaker 1: Doe to bathe with him and perform oral sex on him.
- 58:16Speaker 1: This occurred in New York, Palm Beach, New Mexico, London, Paris,
- 58:20Speaker 1: on Epstein's private island, on Epstein's airplanes, and other locations.
- 58:27Speaker 1: Twenty seven. Jane Doe was paid in part to be
- 58:30Speaker 1: sexually available to Epstein. So that's part of the defense too.
- 58:35Speaker 1: They're saying that Epstein was paying her, but it was
- 58:39Speaker 1: only paying her for the sex. It wasn't paying her
- 58:41Speaker 1: for her role within the criminal enterprise or the procurement
- 58:48Speaker 1: or grooming of young women. Now, two hundred and fifty
- 58:53Speaker 1: thousand dollars is what these gals were getting paid as assistants,
- 58:56Speaker 1: and we know that that's about three or four times
- 58:59Speaker 1: more than assistants were making Hunt Wall Street. So I
- 59:04Speaker 1: doubt it was just for sex, considering all of the
- 59:08Speaker 1: women he had available to him, and women that were
- 59:11Speaker 1: much younger than Jane Doe here, Okay, and we know
- 59:15Speaker 1: that Jeffrey Epstein likes them much younger and likes them
- 59:18Speaker 1: to look much younger. Now, again, I'm not denying that
- 59:22Speaker 1: any sort of sexual encounters took place between Epstein and
- 59:28Speaker 1: this alleged victim here. Maybe they did. I don't know.
- 59:31Speaker 1: I have no idea, but I know for a fact
- 59:34Speaker 1: that there are more than a handful of survivors of
- 59:40Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein and this criminal enterprise that point the finger
- 59:44Speaker 1: directly at Jane Doe one slash Sarah Helen, victim of Vickers,
- 59:49Speaker 1: and the Core four. So again, we're the public, right,
- 59:54Speaker 1: We're all going to have our opinions on this. At
- 59:56Speaker 1: the end of the day, it's going to be for
- 59:58Speaker 1: the courts to decide, and hopefully the court will be
- 1:00:04Speaker 1: able to see through the bs and they'll decide in
- 1:00:06Speaker 1: the right fashion, and this person will not get one
- 1:00:09Speaker 1: single dollar from this survivor's fund. This argument may very
- 1:00:16Speaker 1: well hold up in court and get Jane Doe a payout,
- 1:00:20Speaker 1: but it will likely not go down well with the
- 1:00:22Speaker 1: other survivors, some of whom have named Epstein's recruiters and
- 1:00:26Speaker 1: their lawsuits. The fact that this victim spent over alleged
- 1:00:31Speaker 1: victim spent over a decade working for Epstein could also
- 1:00:35Speaker 1: hinder her case. Exactly what I was talking about. When
- 1:00:38Speaker 1: you've been working for Epstein for so long and you
- 1:00:42Speaker 1: have a track record of being one of his lieutenants,
- 1:00:48Speaker 1: the jury's going to look at all of that. They're
- 1:00:50Speaker 1: going to take all of it into account, and I
- 1:00:52Speaker 1: don't see how she or her lawyers will be able
- 1:00:55Speaker 1: to convince a jury of her peers in a criminal case,
- 1:00:59Speaker 1: mind you, that she was a victim here and not
- 1:01:03Speaker 1: an abuser. So there you have it, folks. Jane Doe
- 1:01:10Speaker 1: one which looks like it is Sarah Kellen Vickers is
- 1:01:15Speaker 1: applied to the survivor's fund looking to get a payout
- 1:01:20Speaker 1: and saying that she too, was a victim. I will
- 1:01:25Speaker 1: leave it up to all of you to decide what
- 1:01:28Speaker 1: you think about that kind of statement. If you'd like
- 1:01:32Speaker 1: to contact me, you can do that at Bobby Kapuchi
- 1:01:35Speaker 1: at ProtonMail dot com. That's b O b b Y
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- 1:01:57Speaker 1: I'll