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- 0:05Buy a one- way ticket to the other part of the world, a
- 0:08place where he lived the first years of his life and did not expect to
- 0:12meet his best friend again. All the places that we kept secret and marruvial
- 0:17welcome hello zonal. You' re all here, so nice to see you.
- 0:21Again we were talking outside the microphone that I met you at the age
- 0:25of eighteen. You' re twenty- one, you' ve razed.
- 0:30I love that you follow this progress and that they, the listeners, will
- 0:34not see you, but you have a face of brutal happiness son. So
- 0:39nothing. I' ve been seeing you on a journey in which the novel
- 0:45unfolds, because the world is too big to always be in the same place.
- 0:51It' s one of your phrases and you' re going to Finland.
- 0:53You your novel and your characters, because well I decided to set Jamfield
- 0:59' s novel. It was a bit of fate, a bit magical.
- 1:03I like to say I' m a very distinctive writer. When it came
- 1:06to writing, he let me get carried away by those impulses, not by
- 1:10those sparks that come up suddenly, and I was very clear, when I
- 1:12started writing the book that I wanted to set in a place that was challenging
- 1:15for me, a place I didn' t know, where I had to
- 1:19investigate, about having to document myself and I was looking for a lot of
- 1:23time, countries, places, small towns. It was clear to me that
- 1:26he wanted a small town with wooden houses, snow and lakes. I mean,
- 1:30I was pretty clear. I want this and suddenly a friend told me
- 1:34so about the nothing that Finland has already had to make an exchange that she
- 1:38had loved. And I didn' t know anything about Finland, but that
- 1:41night I was curious to go to Google Maps and let google Maps doll go
- 1:45to a random spot in Finland and fell into a village that gathered all the
- 1:49features I was looking for. And I said because it' s already here
- 1:51I' m going to set it up and now, to celebrate the release
- 1:55of the novel, we' ve gone there, to Finland, not to
- 1:59that little town, because there really isn' t much to see there.
- 2:00But also what I was looking for, not to be a tourist destination,
- 2:02but to Roba Nievi, where we have been at least eighteen degrees below zero
- 2:06and that is that I have fulfilled some of the points on the mailing list.
- 2:08We will now talk about the positive points and the negative points. Maith
- 2:15runs away and returns flight and return. As I rightly say, one always
- 2:19belongs somewhere, needs to feel somewhere and she doesn' t feel where she
- 2:23is at that exact moment. Maive is a girl of Finnish origin who lives
- 2:30in the United States with her father. Her mother dies with her. She
- 2:32' s very small her father, like she doesn' t finish talking much
- 2:37about her. Maibe knows nothing about her mother. It' s like a
- 2:39little bit of an unknown to her. In fact, she, in the
- 2:42novel, describes it many times as a puzzlia that lacks a lot of pieces.
- 2:46And then aside too and she has a boyfriend who everyone thinks will marry
- 2:50him, who already has as his future written. And this future doesn'
- 2:54t end up liking him, so by one impulse he goes to the other
- 2:58part of the world, to Finland, to this small town that we talked
- 3:00about before, which is his mother' s village, where his mother'
- 3:05s best friend and all his family live. And in this family he is
- 3:07the protagonist of the novel. So, well, the novel talks a little
- 3:10bit about how Maif finds her place in the world and, above all,
- 3:15she also finds herself. Maith has that fault, her mother' s lack,
- 3:21but more than the lack of it, she doesn' t know anything
- 3:24about her. Actually, she has a little lack of memory, of memory,
- 3:29of seeing pictures of her mother, of knowing who she was, of
- 3:32knowing she looked like, of knowing what things she liked, in fact,
- 3:37in the novel. As I tell you, it' s something that has
- 3:39a lot of weight, this interest that she has in Ana. My mother
- 3:42liked photography, and my mother liked it just like me, and I think
- 3:45she' s finding things about her mother. That also helps her find a
- 3:51lot about herself, as we said. However, he does not find support
- 3:54in his father. His father, for example, does not appreciate that he
- 3:58likes photography, nor does he keep any memories of his mother. He doesn
- 4:04' t accompany her in that lack of memories. Of course, his father
- 4:10is also a man who has suffered the loss of his wife and faces it
- 4:14in a way that harms the mabe without knowing it. And it' s
- 4:19a process that' s good that he' s slowly living in the novel
- 4:23and he can' t say much more about not doing spoilers either. Not
- 4:25that Connor how is there Connors good, I adore her with lords of my
- 4:30favorite characters. He' s a good character by nature. I think he
- 4:35' s one of the nicest and most loyal characters I' ve ever written.
- 4:40He' s also a very dedicated character to the rest. I think
- 4:43he is very opposed to his brother Luca, who is well known as the
- 4:47two twins, Mayo children of the middle of the family, of the best
- 4:53friend of the mother of may and for both have measured a loss both Conor
- 4:57and Luca, very recent, and the two have a very different way of
- 5:00facing sans riidad. No Cononor is a little more of locking himself up,
- 5:02forgetting his problems and turning to the rest. And Luca is more than I
- 5:08don' t want to be alone, because I don' t want to
- 5:11be with myself and I want everyone else to be aware of my problems and
- 5:15I want to party and I want to have noise to run away from the
- 5:17noise in my head. Then I think they make a very interesting counterposition,
- 5:20at least it has been at the time of writing them. And Connor is
- 5:24a very good brother. It helps his brother a lot, perhaps too much,
- 5:30perhaps he has a little bit of a savior with him in this sense,
- 5:32and it is his idea to make this list of everything to do before
- 5:34he dies. When Mail returns after fifteen years and he sees her and finds
- 5:39her so lost without knowing what he wants to do. I don' t
- 5:44want to miss Luca You describe him as a scoundrel with a self- destructive
- 5:50attitude, a living man. So, well, Lucas is a little bit
- 5:56here between us. I' m going to tell you that Lucas is a
- 5:59bit of a jerk here among us and among the listeners. That' s
- 6:00what I was gonna say It' s a bit of a jerk, Lucas.
- 6:02But it' s true that he' s a very grey character.
- 6:05At first, it is understandable that the reader feels a certain antipathy with him,
- 6:13that he says jope which character, but he is also a character that
- 6:16has many moments of light that are going to be discovered throughout the novel.
- 6:18I think something also very fundamental in this book is that antagonistic characters are not
- 6:23completely antagonistic. I think it' s also a point that I' ve
- 6:28wanted to give value to Hey, no one' s bad or bad or
- 6:31bad, but everyone has their story in this novel. Everyone also has their
- 6:34good things. Everyone has to redeem themselves from things and I think it is
- 6:39seen in many characters as Luca can be, as may be Maif' s
- 6:42father, He is Maife' s boyfriend, who is also another character,
- 6:46but he has enough to talk about. And if me Luca Peer personally is
- 6:49a character that at first I didn' t finish liking that readers who read
- 6:55the novel at WAPA loved it from the very first moment and surprised me and
- 6:59I think I ended up getting some affection. Okay. Your eyes say something
- 7:03else. Make is Mails' old boyfriend. He has a dominant attitude.
- 7:12I don' t know that' s the profile of this character, that
- 7:16domain over doesn' t support that Maibe has left or doesn' t support
- 7:23a no and I think it' s a point of attention among a character
- 7:28who dominates an abuse. Mike is a character who was quite complicated to write,
- 7:34which even in the first version I wrote of the novel maybe I made
- 7:39the mistake of doing it too bad. From what I' m telling you,
- 7:43I think an antagonist too, even if he' s, of course,
- 7:47a bad character whose actions must not be justified or romanticized at all,
- 7:51I think he must also have a certain reason to be at the literary level,
- 7:55that is, that you say is worth it. That' s because
- 7:56this has happened that has as a background in the character novel become more round.
- 8:01And if he' s a character who can' t stand Maffe going
- 8:05outside, he also can' t stand that she didn' t want to
- 8:11go on with this life they both had built from the very first moment,
- 8:16which doesn' t end up understanding that she doesn' t want to have
- 8:18you in the future. But it is also true, on the other hand,
- 8:20that Maife has not openly communicated it to him either. So I think
- 8:22there' s a kind of relationship between the two of us there, too.
- 8:26Not certain conversations that have between the two that I, as author,
- 8:30found very interesting to see because as each one has a point of view and
- 8:33as these points of view can the focus of these characters or the function of
- 8:41these characters, is that the reader is able to position himself not by your
- 8:46approach, but by the path that this character does. Yeah, exactly,
- 8:50I mean, I don' t say if a character is good or bad.
- 8:52I think I' d rather leave it to the reader. This happens
- 8:56in the novel. I think the toxic ones in quotation marks are bad,
- 9:03that the novel is not romanticized at any time, if they are exposed and
- 9:07even there are characters who say hear that is wrong, that is to say
- 9:09themselves. But then, other than that, if you like Mike or not,
- 9:13it' s no longer something that I should influence, but it'
- 9:16s your decision. Just like Lucas in Johnny Hanna' s house, it
- 9:20' s hot and smells like hot bread, butter and fish soup. It
- 9:26' s the closest thing to a home, something Maife' s never had
- 9:28before. Yes, of course for Mail it is also very shocking and very
- 9:35hard on a personal level to get there to a home so familiar, so
- 9:41warm with photos does not already describe that there are photos on the walls in
- 9:46the wooden house such when really the reality that she has lived is quite the
- 9:50opposite. It' s something very, very cold, where he doesn'
- 9:54t have a very good relationship with his father, the woman his father married
- 9:56to. It' s true it' s a charm, but Maife n
- 10:00r na no getting along with her. Then, of course, she gets
- 10:05there and suddenly she says jo is all I' ve ever had and she
- 10:07can' t help but wonder if when she was little and her mother still
- 10:11lived, if her house was like that, then we have a good one
- 10:16there. I think little by little we are seeing how may is also integrated
- 10:18into this family and how it happens to be one more. It' s
- 10:22not the difference between home and house. Yes, a tower of chocolate donus
- 10:26the place of a cake the following year and the next and the next,
- 10:31until, a year soon after his mother' s death, his father buys
- 10:35him a cake. Traditions are forgotten, like many details of childhood. How
- 10:41nice, yes, that was part of the unpublished content that adds to the
- 10:46novel. Which is funny because I always find it very interesting to know when
- 10:52writers wrote everything. I don' t know if maybe it' s up
- 10:54to me that I' m a little freaky in that respect. But,
- 10:58for example, something that seems super curious to me is like you, as
- 11:00an author, that is you, as a reader, sorry when you read
- 11:03a book. The order of events in that book for you is one and
- 11:07one and that' s it. I mean, you can' t imagine
- 11:09that chapter five in the writer' s head might have gone before three,
- 11:13but we do think about that kind of thing. And it seems to me
- 11:18as very interesting to see how, in our case, we are shaping something
- 11:22that when given to the reader, the reader does not pose either because its
- 11:24role, which may have been otherwise. And in this case, all these
- 11:28little ones, I like to say that they are, as foreign content chapters
- 11:33like these little surprises, that there are chapters is everything that I put in
- 11:39later and describe the novel and it gives it a lot of play and clearly
- 11:43it gives it a lot of play and when you read it from the pull,
- 11:48it remains as very integrated that no one would say that it is something
- 11:50that has gotten into later. And this particular one that talks about Connor and
- 11:52this custom that, thanks to him mab caught of not having cake on his
- 11:56birthday and blowing chocolate tonuts. I think it also reflects very well this blur
- 12:05made by his mother' s father of maive. Suddenly she moves to the
- 12:11United States, the mother of may dies and the father wants to forget everything
- 12:15that has to do with the mother, and one of those things is the
- 12:18issue of her daughter not taking part in her birthday. Then something that was
- 12:22so special suddenly happens to be something like what the rest of us do.
- 12:28And when he told me about Finland, he may or may not recover that
- 12:31tradition, he may recover it is not a way to face grief. As
- 12:35you said before, grief can be faced by trying to remember or grab memories
- 12:41before they go away in physical form such as a photograph, an object or
- 12:46an odor or that which you have experienced those memories that do not exist,
- 12:50because perhaps it is too small. In this case, I think Maib'
- 12:54s father has a way of dealing with the pain of pretending that all those
- 13:01good moments he' s had with his wife don' t exist. And,
- 13:05in fact, there' s a conversation that I really like. It
- 13:07is something that always emphasized in all my books, that in this case it
- 13:11is Smath who tells him and tells him that one cannot flee eternally the pain,
- 13:15because many times the escape from the pain causes it more flower and because
- 13:18it is a pity to lose so many good memories only because when remembering them,
- 13:26it hurts you then good. There' s a very interesting conversation in
- 13:28this book not only has the weight of romance, it also has a lot
- 13:31of weight of friendship, it also has a lot of weight of family and
- 13:35many other topics. Death. Death. Death, I think, is the
- 13:39main theme and well, I would dare to say that it is death,
- 13:43but in the sense of taking advantage of life until the last moment, that
- 13:48is, not death in a gloomy sense and in a dramatic sense, but
- 13:54as more of a hole to death. It' s something that' s
- 13:56going to happen to us sooner or later, which is a reality that we
- 13:58may not want to face because it' s uncomfortable, but it' s
- 14:03something that' s going to happen to us sooner or later. Let'
- 14:03s hope that there are many years inside and all that process that we have
- 14:09up to that moment is something that we have to enjoy every moment. And
- 14:11for that you don' t need to make a list. Although I go
- 14:15a little in control of the novel, I think that in the end,
- 14:16the final message of the novel is this not to enjoy life you don'
- 14:20t need to make a list of everything you want to do before you die,
- 14:24but just enjoy the smallest things, which is the walking with your music,
- 14:28for example, I love and go seeing the leaves of the trees how
- 14:31they move, or being with your loved ones and hearing their laughter, or
- 14:35celebrating a birthday or being with your pet, are like those very small moments,
- 14:39to which we don' t give any importance, those that are really
- 14:41very important. It' s life, it' s life to go to
- 14:50heaven to make the Borealis now. Grandpa' s death is perhaps the natural
- 14:54order of life, not because well, it' s not the same loss
- 14:58of someone as loss of an older person. You always say good, because
- 15:03this is the meaning of life, but I find it very nice when you
- 15:07say it goes to heaven to make mo deales. There a little what I
- 15:09wanted to convey the first is the first contact with the fair of a loved
- 15:15one who has with ormaid that are very small. When that happens, it
- 15:20even happens well before Maive' s mother dies, and also how she is
- 15:24conor when she talks about that moment, she talks about how when you have
- 15:30a very close relationship with a person, as it was with Mais when they
- 15:33were little, in the end it' s like he himself says that the
- 15:37lines of your personalities come to draw, that is, when they were young
- 15:41the two, they ate the same cereals, they saw the same cartoons,
- 15:46they even came to think the same things when they were so little. In
- 15:50the end, it' s like me with my best friend as a child,
- 15:54we were the same person, but different. And Connor talks about one
- 15:58thing he told him when his grandfather, Hugo, died that he' s
- 16:03a Hugo with two suus because he' s a Finnish man. And it
- 16:06' s because Connor told him because Mayfe told him he didn' t understand,
- 16:10because people had to die so small, his first contact with death.
- 16:14And Conor repeated to him a phrase he had heard from his father, and
- 16:18that is that he told him that is the natural order of things. It
- 16:21' s true and conor says that he doesn' t remember or that he
- 16:25doesn' t know exactly why he said that because he didn' t really
- 16:27know what it meant, but he hadn' t heard in his father between
- 16:30it had to be something true and mair. So, with this very important
- 16:33imagination that the children have that I am passionate about, he told her that
- 16:37of course it is that the natural order of things, what happened was that
- 16:41they had to go to heaven to make the Northern Lights, because if not,
- 16:45who will make them. Sure and to me it seems like something super
- 16:48beautiful that in fact, I have also told my little cousins and they now
- 16:52think so too. And when I come to a boreal aurora, that is
- 16:56not here, but when I had announced it on TV or they see it
- 17:00in movies or whatever, they always tell me and who speaks manufactured Aurora seems
- 17:04to me like something, yes you spoke of friendship also an important topic in
- 17:10the book Lid Ignora li is a friendship always at a distance and a new
- 17:15friendship yes read is, in fact, a character from one of my previous
- 17:22books, what I somehow do to make a wink at all those readers who
- 17:25have already read several of my novels and to those who I imagine it will
- 17:29make some illusion to find a character with which they have connected, to which
- 17:33they have wanted in one of my new stories. So yes, but anyway
- 17:37it' s also, I mean, it' s introduced so that,
- 17:41if you haven' t read his story, nothing happens either. So it
- 17:42' s like for new cool readers a character without more and for readers who
- 17:48have already read my books. It' s like an addition to how cool
- 17:52this character here and then we have sound is the character Mafe knows there in
- 17:57Finland, who is a teacher at an English academy and she is Spanish and
- 18:02also lives there. Then the two cones so quickly because they both come from
- 18:06outside, both have lived what it is like to get to Finland suddenly,
- 18:10this place, because so cold, in winter, where the days are so
- 18:12short and that at first it can be a very hard chill to live and
- 18:17quickly connect. They quickly become friends and I think they are a great support,
- 18:19for each other, and more that they feel like getting in the water
- 18:26to give you an ice cream bath, because Mira is an experience that I
- 18:32had to live. I had to live. I was going when we went,
- 18:34I mean, while we were on our way there, for Finland,
- 18:37on the plane, I was saying I' m not going to get in,
- 18:40I mean, I was already told that I wasn' t going to.
- 18:41And there what' s very typical is that they went to the sauna.
- 18:45You get into the sauna in a swimsuit. There it is very hot
- 18:48and once you are completely heated, you come out of the cold morning,
- 18:52at least eighteen or less twenty degrees, a thing that so with some cardboard
- 18:56slippers that spread over the snow and go down to a stairs to a hole
- 19:00that they have done in the lake and there you get in and I was
- 19:04there well, we screaming at full volume and people. I was going super
- 19:07quiet us screaming I said ay ay ay, because it was like a new
- 19:11experience not being in Vikin already at minus twenty degrees. I' ve never
- 19:12been before. I don' t know if you' ve been anywhere but
- 19:15I haven' t been to Meda. Cold depends and when I came to
- 19:18the water, I tried how to put my foot in and I was not
- 19:22able, because I slipped such and remember with that moment I thought I was
- 19:27alive, living is an opportunity. I' m here in Robaniev, in
- 19:32Finland, on the other side of the world, and I' m not
- 19:33getting in. I got her in here and I got in one and your
- 19:37body goes in like some kind of autopilot. I didn' t even feel
- 19:41the cold. In fact, don' t even fuck that I had to
- 19:42get out. Until I was one of the companions that I had eaten the
- 19:47planet told me to jump and I said oysters forgiveness. I have to get
- 19:52out and I got out quickly, but I got out of there completely enchanted
- 19:55and in fact, something I remember as with a lot of impact, but
- 20:00at the same time, although it may seem awful, I loved the experience.
- 20:03It was the noticing when I was out while because we were taking pictures
- 20:07like this, a little joke like that and I was out soaking you from
- 20:11head to toe and I was scoring how the skin filled me with frost,
- 20:14of course, it freezes and it seemed to me like an experience. So
- 20:17to say I' m alive and this is an opportunity. It must be
- 20:19made clear that it is what Mail says and in fact, it is one
- 20:22of the points that Main fulfills the book. It' s not much spoiler
- 20:26and I felt like I had to. I also felt a little like the
- 20:29protagonist. For the half- second I was in the water. Nothing like
- 20:33living those you have planned not in your novels, I mean you told me
- 20:37at the beginning how this story came about, like chance or fate. I
- 20:41don' t know it got to that point and how you decided that the
- 20:48story would develop there. A little. Maybe you projected things that you wanted
- 20:51to live for the best. You didn' t know then. Sure.
- 20:52Sure. Moreover, it has been very nice and very rewarding to visit Finland
- 20:57after writing the novel, because I had no opportunity to visit it before and
- 21:03one of my fears to go there was to say and if now it turns
- 21:07out that what I have written is not true, no, because it is
- 21:10true that I have documented a lot, but it is not the same to
- 21:11be there and yet the opposite happened. I was there and everything I saw
- 21:15was like this. I put it in my book. This put it in
- 21:17the book. I' ve seen it just like it was in the book.
- 21:18This is such and it was like an upriver to say jo, although
- 21:22it has been from a distance, I have known somehow to dive into this
- 21:26country and now, when I have arrived, I feel that I know it,
- 21:29even though it has never been so nice And more, since you started
- 21:34publishing with Neta shovel, I understand until we run out of star and after
- 21:37giving you is in us are the novels that have sold most so far,
- 21:45that you expect to find all the places that we kept secret, on the
- 21:49one hand, in terms of figures, but above all and I think it
- 21:52is the most important thing, that you expect to find from your readers,
- 21:56because in terms of numbers it is impossible to know. I hope it goes
- 21:59very well. I trust it' ll be fine. But mostly I'
- 22:02ll take that second part that you mentioned. In fact, today I uploaded
- 22:06to Instagram a small text that I always write the days of launch, which
- 22:10in fact, I wrote last night, because I am always super nervous today
- 22:14and I get absolutely nothing. And yesterday I said something like that, although
- 22:18today I am going to be a press vortex, of firm interviews that we
- 22:22also have this afternoon, I am very reassured to know what that means.
- 22:27In the meantime, there are many of these books that are coming to readers
- 22:32' homes, that there are readers opening them for the first time by seeing
- 22:36those illustrations that bring the first edition or by going to the pages touching the
- 22:40cover. And that relaxes me because it has to be, because it is
- 22:42a book that I have worked a lot for myself because I am passionate about
- 22:47writing, but especially for my readers and for my readers and I do not
- 22:52know from heart that they can enjoy it as much as I have enjoyed it.
- 22:56I anticipate it has a beautiful cover. Yeah, I really do.
- 23:00A lot of what' s inside and I don' t congratulate you.
- 23:03Thank you very much. Thank you very much. I loved the interview a
- 23:04pleasure. Thank you.